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I try to play jazz (Cluck Old Hen, Ed Weaver's version)

Meg Wobus Beller Season 1 Episode 95

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Recently I tried to play jazz. It got me thinking about jazz, so I share some thoughts about playing jazz as a violinist, how I approach it, what it's like, how I practice, and how I take a solo.

The tune is Ed Weaver's Cluck Old Hen. In the words of my friend Shane, it's a "nice, meditative tune".

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Meg Wobus Beller

Welcome to the Fiddle Studio P podcast featuring tunes and stories from the world of traditional music and fiddling . I'm Meg Wobus Beller . Today I'll be bringing you a setting of the tune Cluck Old Hen by Ed Weaver's version from a jam in Baltimore , M maryland . . Hello everyone , I hope you are wel I . I call this episode I try to play jazz because I recently tried to play some jazz and then I thought it'd be fun to talk a little bit about jazz and give people a sense of how I look at it , how I think about it , how I practice it , how I try to play it . Of course I'm not a jazz violinist . I got roped into it because I got asked to play a Klezmer gig and I said , oh sure , I love Klezmer and I love playing and performing Klezmer . Then I found out I also had to play a jazz set , so that was exciting . The world of jazz has a , I would say , a fairly high bar for being able to join in with people who do it a lot . You're really expected to have a lot of knowledge to either know the tunes all the standard tunes from memory , even be able to just transpose them into another key , kind of on the spot . Or , if you don't know something , be able to read it off the page and translate what's written on the page into the style of swing or jazz . It's something that I can do with fiddle tunes look at the way they're notated on the page and translate them into a more stylistic version . But that requires a lot of practice and background , a lot of experience both in the style and to be a pretty experienced music reader and comfortable with that . And in addition to knowing or reading the head of the tune , the melody , you also are expected to play a solo over the changes . That's both exciting and a little bit nerve-wracking , especially if you don't do it very often . The chords you want to be familiar with for jazz , the basic triads that you get in fiddle music , but you're going to get a lot more sevenths . You have your minor and your major chords , but you also need to be very comfortable with the seventh , the major seventh , diminished and augmented chords or having , you know , the sixth or the 11th thrown in . I can get pretty far with that . I think there was one tune on the gig that was Antonio Carlos' Jobin tune and the chords were so complicated . I said I don't know if I can play over these changes . I can play the melody . I didn't know if I could take a solo on it . If it's a pretty simple tune and you know the tune really well and you're not that familiar with chords and how they work , you might be able to just fly by the seat of your pants and kind of pants the solo , fly by the seat of your pants and kind of pants the solo , riff off the melody or off what you're hearing from the folks playing the changes behind you . But I wouldn't count on being able to do that . If you're going to be playing a lot of jazz , you want to be able to read the chords off the page . Use that to help you play the solos . If I'm doing a really tricky transposition you know it's a tune , I know , but they're asking me to play it in some crazy E-flat minor or something because that's the key the singer needs then I may just go off the page and go by my ear because I can't calculate the transposition quickly enough to do that and make up a solo at the same time . But it's nice to be able to read on the page . It gives you the map , basically to know where you're going when you're improvising a jazz or swing solo . I'll give you a couple of suggestions . Of course , remember I'm not a professional in this area , but this is what I think about . If I get into this position , which I did recently I have to do my best to keep up with a band and try to sound like a swing violinist , even if that's not my usual gig . R I try to keep things really simple . I mean , when I say really simple , using one note like for a while , pretty simple rhythms , like for a while , pretty simple rhythms and then you can add some more rhythms to that note . Or you can use your simple rhythms and play a couple more notes , basically add a little bit of complexity as you're going through the form , but you never have to start out with a lot of fancy stuff . You can always start out with just one or two notes and a pretty simple rhythm . Or you can start off with the literal melody of the tune and start to riff over it as you go through the form . Making your own patterns is a suggestion I've gotten from players that I've played with that I've asked about this . Hey , can you give me tips for improvising solos , Just coming up with a little riff or a melody that has a few notes and when the chord changes , playing it again in the new chord , moving it around that way or moving it up and down in a scale . And you can always change it a little bit . A little bit of change in the rhythm , an extra note here or there , or you can just change the way you play it , the dynamic or the articulation or how you slide into the notes or out all of that . It's always good to leave space . Leave way more space than you think you need to . I never leave enough space when I'm soloing and you kind of want it to arc . If you're going to have a really loud part or really high part , you want that to be , oh , whatever . It's like three quarters of the way through the period in which you're soloing . Sometimes I can make that work for me and sometimes I can't . But when I practice jazz I've got my real book and sometimes I'll have an app that'll play chords . So you open it up , you know , find all of me and maybe if you're playing with a person who can play the chords for you or I'll put them on the you know iReal Pro Jazz app . Play the All of Me chords and slow them down , because that's what I need . Play the head through once , then I'll play , let the chords go through again and I'll just outline the chords . You know . Play 1 , 3 , 5 , 3 , 1 , 3 , 5 , 7 , and do each chord as it comes , and then I'll usually take a crack at doing a little soloing over . That's about it . Maybe I'll play the head at the end and practice putting in some variations , you know , jazzing it up a little bit , so to speak . That's how I practice jazz . You know , if you go on the internet and you Google how to practice jazz there's a lot of discussions on YouTube , on Reddit you can find ways . But that's it's a pretty basic little way to start out and you don't need much . You just need a little bit of sheet music . Get yourself a real book or a fake book , and it can be nice to pay whatever 10 or 20 bucks for the app that'll play you the chords . It'll make it a lot easier to hear the changes . Okay , our tune for today is not jazz . This is Cluck Old Hen , but you will not recognize it as the Cluck Old Hen we're mostly familiar with . You know Cluck Old Hen , cluck and Sing s Ain't a seen an egg since way last spring . I like that one . But this is Ed Weaver's Cluck Old Hen . The Fiddler's Companion book calls this Cluck Old Hen 6 . So I guess there were five others considered more important into the Milliner R and Koken collection , the Bible , full-time music , and of course they had a CD that went with . That just tunes , but I guess this was how they played it out in the Shenandoah Valley . Cluck O ld Hen, Ready . Thank you for listening . You can find the music for today's tune at fiddlestudiocom along with my books , courses for today's tune at fiddle studio . com , along with my books , courses and membership for learning to fiddle . I'll be back next week with another tune for you . Have a wonderful day .