#6: Laughter, Legacies, & Life Without Alcohol in the Limelight

Ever found yourself caught in the crossfire of a friendship complicated by one too many drinks? We've all been there, and in our latest podcast episode, we crack open the complex world of social dynamics. Join us as we swap stories about the trials of maintaining boundaries with a friend's tipsy spouse, and the fashion faux pas that's actually a win for breastfeeding moms. Our conversation may start with the comforts of cabin retreats and cozy flannels, but it quickly dives into the deeper waters of media's role in shaping our beauty standards.

But wait, there's more than just heart-to-hearts and style tips! Remember when drinking water from a plastic bottle left in the sun was a rite of passage? We take a trip down memory lane to laugh over the evolution of  the water bottle and how hydration became chic. And if you think TV hosts are just smiling faces on your screen, think again. We're chatting encounters with celebs like Kelly Ripa and debating the charm of daytime TV legends. To top it off, we'll have you questioning your own memories with our Mandela Effect musings, before leaving you on the edge of your seat with our own 'Home Alone' style break-in scare in London. It's a rollercoaster of emotions and revelations here on "Mocktails Or Messy," where every sip and story is served with a splash of the unexpected. So, come for the laughs, stay for the camaraderie, and leave feeling like part of the family. Ciao bella!

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Water Bottle Trends and Friendship Dynamics

Speaker 1 0:00

This is mocktails are messy with Ryan Frank off ski and.

Speaker 2 0:04

Kelly, miss Gorski oh.

Speaker 1 0:06

Hey what you wearing, and I'm just wearing a flannel. It's cute. You're looking like very like sexy housewife, like in the woods, maybe a cabin.

Speaker 2 0:15

I would love to be in a cabin right now and get me a fuck away from everybody.

Speaker 1 0:19

But listen, these little zippies. They're so easy when you're breastfeeding. Wait, can you show us the zippies oh?

Speaker 2 0:28

you want me to pull it down a little bit more?

Speaker 1 0:31

No, you got me flushed. You really do. I mean, it's just like something about Kelly to me is always like oozing, like you know, sex. I'm sorry, you couldn't think of a better word, I don't know why. Is that okay to say?

Speaker 2 0:51

I think it's the blonde hair in the big tits. I Think that the movies, the media, has conditioned you to feel that way.

Speaker 1 1:01

Yeah, maybe honest to God. Yeah, it might have been the male gaze.

Speaker 2 1:06

Yeah, I'm wondering about honey. This isn't only fans.

Speaker 1 1:11

Oh.

Speaker 2 1:13

Why do you have your bare feet? They're clean.

Speaker 1 1:21

Like come, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna make somebody excited, maybe, or grossed out, we don't want to say come. So explicit, like you know, when they make the check mark. Like is this meant for kids? Now? Oh, oh, my god. Well, today we are drinking Brooklyn brewery non-alcoholic special effects hazy IPA. God, it's really hard to get out because I've been like salivating excited to try it. It's so, enjoy what I got. A port in my fancy glass and then you have a blue moon.

Speaker 2 2:01

What did you do over the weekend?

Speaker 1 2:03

I had another, my fourth run in with my. When I say run in like all like it was like a conflict it's, it's just been going on like my good girlfriend. We've been friends for years. I move back to the Berg. I've always liked her husband. However, he's never been really a fan of me, or it seems like we always get in these conflicts. Whenever they're drinking and now that I'm not drinking, I'm, you know, on this like mocktail journey.

Speaker 2 2:35

It feels like everything is magnified honey, this is what I have to say about husbands not liking you. It's because they're insecure. Any boy that I ever dated did not like you because you are so secure with yourself. Really and you're so flirty and you're so successful.

Speaker 1 2:56

Oh, I don't know about successful, maybe flirty in my own way successful.

Speaker 2 3:03

Thank you Don't put yourself down like that in front of me, ever again damn.

Speaker 1 3:09

Thank you Wow.

Speaker 2 3:11

Listen, the only person that would ever let me be friends with you is my husband.

Speaker 1 3:17

Because I'm best friends with him, exactly, but I also love the fact that he's super secure. So, like this other friend who has the Husband who what you're referring to not my words, your words in secure. I don't know if I believe that, but I can understand why you would think that they are an attorney and I'm a little nervous, like to mess with, like somebody in the law, like meaning like a conflict. I don't want to. I don't want to get to, like when they drink too much and I'm involved and I'm just being very transparent with them, like hey, you seem to always have an issue with me and it seems to be the common denominator is when you're drinking. So maybe we shouldn't be around each other with the booze.

Speaker 2 4:04

Yeah, I would say that, that the booze is a problem. Thank you, and I are at the point Drinking or not, we're gonna say what's up.

Speaker 1 4:12

We are. I like the way we're gonna say was up.

Speaker 2 4:14

We are. I know I like that so some people they need a little bit of a drink and then all of the Shit that they've been keeping in the back of their mind. Yeah starts pouring out and it's like Bitch, what the fuck.

Speaker 1 4:30

Can we not Like, can we stop? Yeah, like we keep going on a merry-go-round. Yeah, we keep going there and it just seems like it's repetitive with this person and I really don't want to mess with it but State your piece, the state my peace moment is. Every time I've hung out with them since I've moved back, there's always this like clockwork. They get in some kind of argument with me. So at the end of the day, I don't want to have any conflicts, I don't really want to go out with them anymore, I don't want to be around them. But it is a close friend of mine, husband. So at that point I'm just realizing that they come as a package and I, the old me, would just be like nice and like you know, just smile and but then they would get buzzed and drunk and then they'd take off. They'd like be frustrated. They just order a car or they take off like drive, and then it's like what are? Why is there always some kind of argument? Why is there always some kind of like exit?

Speaker 2 5:38

I hate to say this, but that's very coward-esque.

Speaker 1 5:42

Yeah.

Speaker 2 5:43

And that person like-.

Speaker 1 5:45

Good, good word, if you had a problem like face it Face it, I'll keep running from your problems. Oh yeah, and luckily the last but what?

Speaker 2 5:54

we're talking about. Alcohol is involved here too, so like I don't know, I think that alcohol like affects everyone differently. So you told me about your weekend. I went to the Kempton Hotel Monaco and I went to the Cominor. So good, had a great time.

Speaker 1 6:08

That's a nice spot.

Speaker 2 6:10

And then I went to the Omni William Penn and then Speakeasy oh fancy. And it's like you have to know about it, kind of to like-.

Speaker 1 6:18

To get in To get there.

Speaker 2 6:19

Yeah, Like cause it's like downstairs it's not advertised. That's really cool and it was-, we got like a charcuterie board. Oh, that's nice, I once heard someone called a charcoochy board who said that Not charcoochy I'm not that sounds very weird. We're too inappropriate. And you know what I'm gonna own it.

Speaker 1 6:44

I'm gonna own it too. I mean, I love it, you're so bad we're gonna switch subjects in topics right now. Right.

Speaker 2 6:52

Are you a water bottle guy?

Speaker 1 6:56

I love water bottles Disposable.

Speaker 2 6:58

Disposable? Do you refill them or do you-?

Speaker 1 7:00

I do, I do refill them, maybe once or twice.

Speaker 2 7:04

Yeah, you don't want to do it like for too long cause bacteria. I've got some breaking news for the water bottle people.

Speaker 1 7:13

What's that? It's called the lightness.

Speaker 2 7:15

Okay, so you know how like Stanley is the thing, right now.

Speaker 1 7:18

Oh yeah, stanley, my cousin is talking about it for hours.

Speaker 2 7:23

Okay, well, get ready to see lots of Stanley recycled. Why Now there is a conspiracy theory that there is lead in them.

Speaker 1 7:32

Oh no.

Speaker 2 7:34

Then some Then other people post things. I haven't done it myself. Some people have posted that it like does pass. There's apparently a little button at the bottom and if it comes off, their lead can leak into your like dishwasher and stuff.

Speaker 1 7:48

Oh my god.

Speaker 2 7:50

I don't know if this is true at all. I think it's actually just the cycle of the water bottle. Yeah, but like the Stanley is out.

Speaker 1 8:00

What's in now?

Speaker 2 8:01

The Awala is in.

Speaker 1 8:03

Oh, what's in Awala?

Speaker 2 8:05

So they sell them at Target. They're kind of like multi-dimensional in color. I don't have one yet, but I think I'm going to go buy one, like tomorrow.

Speaker 1 8:14

Oh my god, because I've got to be cool.

Speaker 2 8:16

So why do you think people have such a strong attachment to nondisposable water bottles? I'm just curious, because this is a thing it's been a thing like yeah remember. Is it a status symbol? Is it just an accessory? What is it?

Memory and Mandela Effect Conversation

Speaker 1 8:34

You know what. It's something to do where I've heard people will Purposefully reuse, refill yeah, and it's also better for the environment, yes. So I think everyone's trying to do their part, and it does feel better when you have that chilled Metal or whatever it may be. It's a plastic, yeah, you. And you know water can be expensive in 2015.

Speaker 2 9:01

It was the now Jean remember ever. I do, and then the plastic, but before that I feel like when we're in high school, now Jean, and then everyone was like, oh my god, bpas, which I don't think now Jean has BPAs, but everyone got freaked out by the plastic. So then I went to the.

Speaker 1 9:16

Did you get freaked out by the plastic?

Speaker 2 9:19

I did. Okay, yeah, cuz I can like. So we used to run cross-country when I would have my water bottle sitting out and the Sun You're a mess. When I would have my water bottle sitting out in the Sun, you could taste the plastic right.

Speaker 1 9:34

Yeah.

Speaker 2 9:37

So like you can taste it like. So no, thank you to that bueno so then it went to the yeti. The yeti yes the yeti was like super popular. Oh yeah, I remember the yeti yeti, everything I still have like yeti koozies that I use. Then it went to the Stanley and that's the walla.

Speaker 1 9:57

So I kind of want to get one of them. I always thought I was gonna get the Stanley, but now you're telling me the wall, is it?

Speaker 2 10:03

it is, but I guess I didn't get you anything for your birthday, so I'll just get you one for your birthday, baby, I did want to ask you. Mm-hmm this is like a change of topic. Yeah, tell me who is your favorite TV host? Kelly Rippa oh, you were on her show but that's not even it.

Speaker 1 10:22

I always looked at her and I'm like something about her, and then when we went on I was like, oh my god, she is that great.

Speaker 2 10:29

What did you so explain how you were like on the show? Were you like dancing or something?

Speaker 1 10:34

Oh yeah, they had a competition on the Kelly and it wasn't even Ryan. Then it was Kelly and Michael, but it was no, it's actually Michael, though too Guess what it was whenever Michael got Another offer at Good Morning America. Oh, so it was just basically the Kelly live with Kelly show. So they didn't have like a co-host yet because Michael was an interim or he had left and and yeah, we just got. We went in line when I was living in New York and it was like super early, like you know, five in the morning, and you just go on the like live with Kelly show and she is really good.

Speaker 2 11:15

You got the similar well, my mom always watched her, and so I grew up watching her, so I wanted to do a little like this or that oh Okay, yeah, yeah. Drew Barrymore or Kelly Clarkson, oh, Drew yeah. I'm gonna agree with you on that, and let's do a little Drew Barrymore right here.

Speaker 1 11:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2 11:38

So okay, drew Barrymore or Ellen oh.

Speaker 1 11:42

God, you know I think something about Ellen as much as I really Vibed with her at the beginning. Think some got a little kooky or like cocky, I don't know. It felt but don't get me wrong like she was still putting out great shows.

Speaker 2 12:01

You know what it is. The content didn't really change. It was the vibe. You're right, we could totally feel that and I think that after so many years maybe she was just done.

Speaker 1 12:14

I know I don't think her, I don't think her heart was in it at the end I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 12:20

Yeah so we're gonna go with Drew still.

Speaker 1 12:23

Drew is magical and you know, I actually know the bar that I worked at in LA called Revolver video bar. The owner of that bar is Drew's manager and, like, producer of her show. So he basically had the bar and he was like, oh sorry, got a deal with Drew and her show producing this new talk show, and so he didn't really like care too much about the bar as much and he's like, oh, I guess I'll keep owning it.

Speaker 2 12:54

I got one more comparison and this one is the hardest one for me.

Speaker 1 12:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2 12:59

Drew or Wendy Williams.

Speaker 1 13:03

You know when he's pretty damn good and you know as much as I felt like her set was a little truth. She did. You know, warm and fuzzy is drew.

Speaker 2 13:14

Wendy is like their opposites, their polar opposites.

Speaker 1 13:17

So yeah, they both. You know what? The one thing I gotta say is like an interior design person Mm-hmm, that set was tragic, wendy's. Yeah, I was just like. When I went there it was like slip covers of like purple silk. I knew you were talking about Wendy's yeah. It was like.

Speaker 2 13:41

Wendy needs to come back because she's not on air anymore, so I guess Drew wins.

Speaker 1 13:46

Yeah, drew, she's done a lot of good stuff in acting and I think it was just time for her to channel it into. Look at Kelly Clarkson.

Speaker 2 13:56

She is doing the non-alk now, right.

Speaker 1 13:58

Yeah.

Speaker 2 13:58

I love how she was like one bottle would turn into three bottles.

Speaker 1 14:02

I know she was never like the one glass girl or like the four, who is ever any, actually one or two.

Speaker 2 14:08

People are.

Speaker 1 14:09

They are.

Speaker 2 14:10

Yeah, I'm not, you weren't. It exists 100%. My mom is like a zero glass to one.

Speaker 1 14:19

She'll do like half a glass.

Speaker 2 14:21

Yeah, she's like I don't understand why you'd want more than one, Like she doesn't understand it. I'm like how do you not understand?

Speaker 1 14:27

She's not chasing that high.

Speaker 2 14:29

She's not chasing that feeling, so I do want to talk about something else that's fun.

Speaker 1 14:36

I like a good fun one.

Speaker 2 14:37

Do you know what the Mandela effect is?

Speaker 1 14:41

Actually I don't.

Speaker 2 14:42

So Nelson Mandela died in 2013. However, countless people remember him passing in the 80s, oh my God. So it's like this weird thing where, like you think something happened, that like didn't happen.

Speaker 1 14:57

Yeah, did they just like rewrite it or like did they put it out there into like books, like it wasn't correct?

Speaker 2 15:05

People literally like remember it that way.

Speaker 1 15:08

That's so funny, and they haven't rewritten anything.

Speaker 2 15:11

So I'm going to give you some things and I want to know your answer so like. Is it Jeff or Jiffy Peanut butter?

Speaker 1 15:17

Oh, it's definitely Jeff.

Speaker 2 15:19

Okay, you know that, so that's true.

Speaker 1 15:21

A lot of people think it's.

Speaker 2 15:22

Jiffy, is it Looney Tunes with two O's and the Looney and the Tunes, or Looney Tunes with a U in the Tunes? And so those.

Speaker 1 15:33

Oh, it's an O O.

Speaker 2 15:35

So that's wrong.

Speaker 1 15:37

It's with a U. Oh my God, that's so weird.

Speaker 2 15:43

Did curious George have a tail or no tail?

Speaker 1 15:47

I'm going to, just since you asked that, I would assume every monkey has a tail. But since you asked that, I'm going to say it. He did not have a tail.

Speaker 2 15:55

Okay, so he did not. Yeah, but a lot of people picture him with a tail.

Speaker 1 15:59

Isn't that funny. Like I would have probably said oh yeah, he has a tail, but then you just prefaced it at the question.

Speaker 2 16:05

I know, but I wanted to know what you remembered. Oh, but maybe you didn't, maybe you weren't a curious George, you know what?

Speaker 1 16:12

I would just assume yeah, maybe I know curious George, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 16:15

Or maybe we like read it and didn't realize.

Speaker 1 16:17

Yeah, the tail thing.

Speaker 2 16:18

Okay, so it was at sex in the city or sex and the city.

Speaker 1 16:24

Oh see, it's definitely and.

Speaker 2 16:26

Okay, so you got that right.

Speaker 1 16:28

Yeah.

Speaker 2 16:31

The Monopoli man. Does he have a monocle?

Speaker 1 16:36

Yeah, he's got that thing, the glass right.

Speaker 2 16:39

No, oh, what Are you serious? Never existed.

Speaker 1 16:45

Why do I just see a fucking glass? I do too. Yeah, that is so crazy.

Speaker 2 16:50

Okay, so picture the fruit of the loom. The logo. Does it have a cornucopia in the background but behind the fruit.

Speaker 1 17:03

Or is it?

Speaker 2 17:03

just like fruit.

Speaker 1 17:06

It's. It's a God of cornucopia in the background.

Speaker 2 17:09

It doesn't.

Speaker 1 17:10

What.

Speaker 2 17:12

I've seen it before too, I know.

Speaker 1 17:16

You've seen it, oh God.

Speaker 2 17:19

So um.

Speaker 1 17:26

I can't believe. I thought it had a cornucopia.

Speaker 2 17:29

Is the Mona Lisa smiling?

Speaker 1 17:32

Okay, I always thought she was, but I'm gonna say no, because I can't picture her smiling.

Speaker 2 17:39

Okay, so people claim the Mona Lisa smile is turning into a straight face and that her smile used to be more like obvious.

Speaker 1 17:51

That is so weird.

Speaker 2 17:53

It's really weird, but apparently, if you look at the Mona Lisa's eyes, it turns into a smile.

Speaker 1 18:02

Right.

Speaker 2 18:03

But if you look at the lips, it turns into a straight face.

Speaker 1 18:08

Oh my god, yeah, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 18:13

Yeah, so it depends on where you're looking at in the photo.

Speaker 1 18:17

Yeah, that is really weird. I would never think like that.

Creepy Stories and Podcast Growth

Speaker 2 18:20

I know. Well that's how talented Leonardo was. Yeah, he was such a master of expression. Do you have any creepy stories that make your hair stand up?

Speaker 1 18:35

You know what? I don't know if I can think of one at the top of my head, like our Airbnb was robbed in London.

Speaker 2 18:44

Oh my god, that's what happened to Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 1 18:47

But she was in the apartment in France or in Paris.

Speaker 2 18:51

You weren't there. That's really scary.

Speaker 1 18:55

It's scary. But then you're like they're not in there and what are they going to do?

Speaker 2 18:59

Doesn't sound like a very safe place to visit.

Speaker 1 19:01

Yeah, you would think, but it was during Christmas it was in like a nice neighborhood, kind of like home alone, you know, with a nice neighborhood. Well, Kelly, this has been really fun to play with you and continue to grow this little thing we call podcasts.

Speaker 2 19:17

So much fun. Thank you for listening to Mocktails Are Messy. Ciao, ciao, bella.

Speaker 1 19:23

Ciao bella.