Mocktails Or Messy
Mocktails Or Messy
#32: Hotdate is on a break & Ex is Engage
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Could you handle a cheeky conversation about texting mishaps, bougie lifestyles, and the odd vibrator review? Join Kelly Mizgorski and Ryan Frankowski as they kick things off with the sizzling scoop about Emily's engagement. Things get delightfully awkward as we share our favorite drink picks—Ryan's loving Katy Perry's "De Soi" and Kelly's sipping on her Dry Farm Wines—before diving into some embarrassing yet hilarious stories.
Expect a rollercoaster of emotions and some serious tea on past relationships, including a bold text that led to a surprising engagement update. We don't shy away from life's serious topics either, from the impact of domestic violence to grappling with body image issues. Amidst these weighty discussions, we keep it light with humor around fashion trends and the quintessential pumpkin spice season, making sure you get a taste of both the serious and the silly.
Wrap things up with us as we explore the evolving meaning of "demure," share some personal growth stories, and chat about the curious world of man tan products. Whether it's a hilarious recount of a recent date or the joy of finding genuine, unicorn-like connections, our conversation promises to be both entertaining and thought-provoking. Don't miss out on this engaging mix of fun, introspection, and real talk!
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Speaker 1This is the update that everybody has been waiting for. Where is Emily?
Speaker 2I found out that she's engaged. Are you looking at yourself? Yeah, will the real fucking problem. Please stand up.
Speaker 1Something is wrong with us, but I don't know if it's because you're literally making me so fucking sweaty. I know I literally can't. Maybe we're getting like heat poisoning right now. I don't know if it's like the cotton in here. It's so hot in here, I'm not kidding oh shit you got that wop.
Speaker 2It just keeps catching my eye you know what it's like sitting right there this is my problem and I think my friend Panichi can understand this. Whenever I see you walking down the street and that flow, I'm like oh wait, shit, that's my bestie, because I'm always just like walking down the street and that flow.
Speaker 1I'm like, oh wait, shit, that's my bestie, because I'm always just like walking down the street. Welcome to Mocktails are Messy. This is Kelly Musgorski and Ryan Frankofsky. I'm so glad that you are all here to hang out with us today. We're going to have fun, we're going to have a little party and you know, the more the merrier.
Speaker 2So what are you going to have? I'm going to have my Katy Perry de soie.
Speaker 1De soie with moi. I got a little subscription. It's called Dry Farm Wines. I got a little subscription. It's called Dry Farm Wines and it's all wines from Europe with no additives or pesticides or anything like that. So you're supposed to not get a hangover from these. Oh, so I'm excited to try this. I've done Dry Farm Wines before and I always enjoy it.
Speaker 2I like the little label you got. You always pick some really good labels here. It's kind of got like yeah, that is cool.
Speaker 1I didn't get to pick like. I just chose that I wanted red, but I didn't get to pick like which bottles. I think you can choose your bottles yes, if you know you like something? But, yeah, yeah, I'm digging this um dry farm wines. And what are our guests doing today? Are you guys having a mocktail or a cocktail?
Speaker 2yeah, comment below. We want to know if you are a mocktailer like me or a cocktailer like me. What is that?
Speaker 1this is um, just like a bottle opener, so I've actually never used one like this before, so I'm gonna go ahead and oh, am I doing this right? It sounds really vibey yeah, it's totally a vibe oh my god.
Speaker 2No, like you know, like vibrate, not oh my god, stop with the cheesy dad jokes. I'm sorry, but like the noise just is so funny I love it.
Speaker 1Have you used a vibrator before?
Speaker 2um, actually I used one of these new lilo vibes, the little like innovative fleshlight, with the app. It was kind of wait does it vibrate too. Yeah, it like pulsates, vibrates, like there's an ai mode no way. Yeah, they were supposed to send me something and they never did I know I guess you got a make out with the product guy.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, I guess I'm not getting anything.
Speaker 2Do you remember whenever I sent you a text like that? Make out was so hot.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2And who read it?
Speaker 1My husband read it and he goes wait, did you make out with Franco? He calls you Franco because you know you're both Ryans. Yes, and I was like no, and I was so confused about like where he was getting that from.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then I read the text and I was like yeah, that totally sounds like we just made out, yeah, that it was hot, why, like I think, sometimes like I kind of am just a space cadet and I'm multitasking and you know have the punctuation of my text and I don't think you realize that, like my husband's reading my text messages oh, is that a? Thing. Okay, can and somebody explain to me like does everybody have their significant other or husband or wife reading their phone?
Speaker 1I would never feel comfortable with like that so I feel comfortable with it because I ain't doing anything shady. So if I have a, if my phone goes off like it's not that he is going out of his way to read it. I'm just like, hey, will you check that for me, because I don't want to get up and go get my phone, but he's like over in the kitchen and can look at it.
Speaker 1so, um, yeah, I mean I let him use my phone if he needs to or like, look at at it. It's no big deal to me, yeah.
Speaker 2Um, I guess I've just always been a little shady.
Speaker 1I think you're just a little shady.
Speaker 2Maybe that means that I should just be single.
Speaker 1I mean, you are single as fuck.
Speaker 2Single AF. I mean, I don't know. Let's see what we'd like for mocktail cocktail perspective this day, Swat is really good.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, let's try our drinks. Cheers, cheers. Is that as good as the one last time?
Speaker 2I think it might be just as good or just better.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2What do you think?
Speaker 1You know what? I'm always trying to look good for the camera, so I brushed my teeth right before I came here, and I have, you know that, like I got to get the toothpaste. Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, I brushed my teeth before I came here. So this, oh no, I almost needed like a cracker before I took a sip.
Speaker 2Yeah, do you want me to get you a cookie from outside?
Speaker 1I mean, they don't have cookies here. They do. They do. Yeah, do you want me to grab you a cookie? No, okay, because they're really good. I don't know if I was allowed to take any.
Speaker 2I'm just having a couple more sips and then it'll, you know, cleanse my yes, yes, flavor. So this day, swa sparkling non-alcoholic aperitif is the bright red fruits, subtle florals adapt, enriched, so it has lychee juice, lion's mane, you know this lion mane.
Speaker 1You know what If it has lychee?
Speaker 2I know I would love that. Do you want to give it a little swig?
Speaker 1Do you mind? You're not sick, are you?
Speaker 2No, not yet.
Speaker 1You don't have like mono or the herp.
Speaker 2I can't guarantee. I'm going to just like go with no, okay, that's good. Yeah, the lion's mane is very calming. Apparently, this is something that is becoming Like a very common mocktail thing. Wow, I love this. Out this shirt.
Speaker 1Oh, thank you. We're like kind of color coordinated right now.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know how we did that, I know, and did you notice? I have a little.
Speaker 1Oh, your little badge of honor, yes, okay so I did want to share.
Speaker 2I got this cute little thing, oh, and did you?
Speaker 1notice I have a little, oh, your little badge of honor.
Speaker 2Yes, okay, so I did want to share.
Speaker 1Yeah, I got this cute little thing in the mail today, aw. Guess who it's from you got something in the mail from who he's being shy. He's being shy, okay. So it says wishes to announce that Ryan S Frankowski is now a sales associate in our Howard Hanna Shadyside office.
Speaker 2Let's get it. Let's get it. I know, do you feel like I'm like so proud of myself? I'm really just trying to spread the awareness that I can really help you out with your journey of home buying or listing or finding the right property, even new construction.
Speaker 1Yeah, this is a new beginning, a new journey for you, and you should be going into it so excited.
Speaker 2So I'm so happy for you and I can't wait for you to find me my farm property. I know we're looking at an 11 acre estate for you.
Speaker 1Yeah, so my husband, he does want to go look at it, by the way.
Speaker 2What I love about you guys is you make my job fun, because even if we go look at stuff, you can get an idea for the future or the current if there's a really good deal to make. I love about you also is you're used to flipping homes and like doing some renovation. Oh, I dig it.
Speaker 1It's like it keeps closing up, but I want it open because it's hot in here. You know, nobody wants boob sweat.
Speaker 2You look so good you are serving today.
Speaker 1Thanks, what are you on? You're on something right now.
Speaker 2I swear to God. I have noticed more and more that I've become like sober as much as I like.
Speaker 1Miss the party rage, ryan franco, yeah, I miss him too. Can we say that?
Speaker 2that was the franco. Oh, I miss him. Okay, so I miss that. And it's finally coming out of summer. But, like now, the mocktails are getting even more innovative, like this adaptogens, the lion's mane. I don't know if it's just like me or I don't. They're making something that is giving me the buzz, so I'm feeling a little buzz today it's good.
Speaker 1I would definitely uh purchase the swa products again with moi, because you know with me cutting it in half I still want that glass in my hand sometimes.
Speaker 2I know and you mentioned today that you're like I don't think you could really just be like, completely with like, and that's not even a bad thing. It's just like you're not, you're gonna be realistic, like you don't really have a problem.
Speaker 1Right, I'm so bougie. I feel like you know getting bottle service like getting wine at dinner. That's bougie. Right, like I'm bad and I'm bougie and I need to have that glass in my hand, even if it's just like a mocktail yeah, yeah, and I love us being a little nasty, bougie fun like yeah, I'm popping, you know, bottles, oh I thought you were gonna say popping something else popping that putty.
Speaker 2Popping that putty cat speaking of popping that putty. Popping that putty Kat Speaking of popping that putty. I did pop the text to the person that you pushed for me to shh.
Speaker 1This is the update that everybody has been waiting for. Where is Emily?
Speaker 2I can't believe you forced this out of me. Like I said it on the pod, I was, you know, missing some previous lover. I'm going to keep pushing you. Listen, I didn't force you to say shit on the pod. I was, you know, missing some previous.
Speaker 1I'm gonna keep pushing you listen, I didn't force you to say shit on the pod I know, but I forced you to not edit it out because you were like, oh, I want to take it out, like I don't want to be weird, I guess, but I was like no, too, like worried that she's married and has kids and then we have an update oh, I messaged her good friend because I had been like in oakland and this good friend went to pitt university of pittsburgh.
Speaker 2Oh okay, so I was walking past one of these frat houses and I'm like, oh my god. I know they all look the same, but there was a moment in time that I went with the ex-girlfriend's best friend while they were at pit and we had a fucking keg stand and I'm remembering. I'm having flashbacks, so I texted her best friend who's happened to name emily too?
Speaker 1I I have to okay, so I have to interject right now. I I have a messy past right and I'm not afraid to talk about it. I have never done a keg stand before in my life. Yep, never done it before that's crazy.
Speaker 2So you've never got that experience. We have to do that this summer had the experience. I just did not want to do it because I don't drink beer, girl, yeah can you at least fun fact never done a keg stand so wait, then we have to do something that's in the keg like a cider stand I could do that like a keg cider stand.
Speaker 1Yes, that'd be perfect for fall.
Speaker 2We're gonna do a keg cider stand. Is that what there are? Like? Are kegs like with cider as well? We're gonna figure it out. I mean, you can do a nightshirt cold brew. There you go. Okay, finish your story. Okay. So then the story texted the ex-girlfriend's best friend, who happens to be named Emily as well, and you kind of pushed me to do that. You were like, okay, send her the link to the video of you like confessing your lost or your like feelings of, like your feelings are coming back. You're wishing that you could like reconnect with them in some way or whatever. Right, but needless to say, I found out that she's engaged.
Speaker 1Oh, congratulations, Emily. She's got to be so weirded out because she's not like a social media person, you know what it's a compliment and I bet that her Beyonce is like hell, hell, yeah, everyone wants a piece of this.
Speaker 2like I bet you know what it's probably like they're probably feeling good about it and happy, or they have no fucking clue that we're doing this I can't believe she's engaged.
Speaker 1That's so exciting, okay, so is she in london? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2Oh my gosh, how romantic I know, I know, wonder if he's an english dude, I wonder, wouldn't be surprising, because she's, you know she's into like something a little bit more evolved and larger than this.
Speaker 2Oh, I'm sure pittsburgh yinzer type hey, let's not jog on our hometown, I know I know, when I was working at the like Italian luxury, like design firm, I totally felt like, oh my god, this is not me. This is not me. I'm not bougie like this. I'm not like some, like you know, elevated, like classy person, I'm like kind of just a fucking bro yinzer, or what do you think?
Speaker 1like do you think whenever I?
Speaker 2was trying to be like. Do you think I was trying to be somebody that I wasn't?
Speaker 1no, no not at all.
Speaker 2But then what I mean, I don't know, I just didn't feel like that firm and that vibe was me, you know what?
Speaker 1I'm gonna stick to this. I'm gonna ride this to the grave. I don't think anyone should just stay in their hometown forever, like I think they need to get out even if it's just a couple years, even if it's just like where they go to college Right, like there's so much to this world.
Speaker 1And there's so many different cities and national forests and different types of people to meet that like don't really exist, like you're not going to find, naturally find a Southern belle up in Pittsburgh. So everyone needs to meet a nice Southern belle or a Southern man. And then you need to meet the West Coast. What do they call them?
Speaker 2Oh, the Cali, Girls Cali.
Speaker 1Girls, valley Girls, the Valley Girls I don't know, like hippie granola type. I don't know. Yeah, that's like washington right yeah, like it's like northwest um yeah, I don't know, there's just so many different types of people and like I will say that, like I totally vibe with them, but, like you, you do resonate with your hometown because that's where you're brought up. Yes, and there's no place like home exactly.
Speaker 2It's not just a cliche, it's so true, like whenever I was and I know I keep bringing up like old pasts and stuff but I've learned so much about relationships where you've only had like what? Two yeah, I mean pretty much yeah so, like when you talk about me and like my little like you know experiences with relationships, I never thought I had that many, but then clearly I've had a lot more than you.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was never really open minded about just dating Like I really didn't want to date.
Speaker 2Yeah, you just wanted to like get married, have kids get the white picket fence no. No, what was your like? What did you like? Did you always want to be a bride and a mother and like did you feel like you wanted to be a stay-at-home mom and like you wanted to like bride the kids to soccer practice?
Speaker 1no, in the minivan I didn't like premeditate it like that I would say that like I always knew that I wanted to get married and have kids right, but like I was never in a rush to do that and um, and look at you now yeah you're relatively young, like in today's world. Oh thank you, I'm relatively, relatively young.
Speaker 2I didn't mean it like I'm sorry. No, I meant to say young for having two kids. I'm sorry, oh fuck.
Speaker 1Not it, not it, not it. Some people have commented on my appearance saying that I am looking like really good lately.
Speaker 2Yeah, have you been like working out.
Speaker 1Well, I'm telling you, like I'm not cocky about myself. I mean, I am, but yeah you are. I sound cocky when I say, when I say that I know.
Speaker 2Can you like have a little humble sit down?
Speaker 1No, I can't but.
Speaker 2God, that is fucking weird. I did start.
Speaker 1I did start working out yes. And I feel fucking great and you're a fucking asshole, so suck a cock, I know I gladly would. Oh, I know you will yeah, stop stop, you're gonna make me vom okay, that was so gross.
Speaker 2I'm sorry. Like why do I? Like I don't know if I do it, and then why? Are you like? This I don't know. I think I was dropped on my head as a baby no, lyn Lynn did not drop you.
Speaker 1Maybe the babysitter dropped you.
Speaker 2You are way too paranoid about your children. I'm sorry, but you need to let up and let your foot off the gas and just let them be.
Speaker 1Oh my God, you crossed the line. Oh shit, and you know it. You know you crossed the line, uh-uh, nobody tells me what to do with my kids.
Speaker 2You are a fucking helicopter, mom.
Speaker 1You know what I am and I'm not.
Speaker 2Okay, when you say not what is not.
Speaker 1For someone who doesn't have kids. They don't realize that when you have little toddlers you have to actually make sure they don't think they can fly like Peter Pan and kill themselves.
Speaker 2And you don't really have a husband that's available because he's always at work.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, I'm going to give you that, so I live in fight or flight mode, like I have to keep these little children alive that I care more about them than I care about myself, like you do you? Know what I mean, Like so.
Speaker 2You do.
Speaker 1I'm not that crazy, I'm not. You got a little heated with me.
Speaker 2I am a teasing you. I like to fucking tease you. Got a little heat. I see a flush on there.
Speaker 1So people have been asking I just like, I'm not even going to pay you any attention right now, I'm just going to talk about what I want to talk about. So anyways, people have been asking like why I look so good lately.
Speaker 2I'm so vain, honey you are Just own it.
Speaker 1Okay, so I want to say that it's not all just working out. I did get something done, oh shit.
Speaker 2Did you get plastic surgery?
Speaker 1I wouldn't consider it that, but maybe some people would.
Speaker 2Because you were out for a week and I was a little bit like what's going on. She kept using excuses like oh, avacyn was on that, oh, I got to do this. Oh, I'm available, so I did get some botox.
Speaker 1Just that's what it is, just on my forehead and I took before and after like videos to show the progress and it it I naturally have like lines on my forehead. I think a lot of it comes from like we were runners outside constantly in the sun running. I didn't wear like sun protection.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1You know, I have that fair skin. It doesn't always age the best, so anyways, yeah.
Speaker 2I did the Botox.
Speaker 1And I love it because it's like I felt like I looked tired a lot before I got it. It's like oh, you're tired. No, the fuck, you're not, bitch, not anymore. I don't feel tired anymore. I'm not sleepy looking, I'm like fresh I'm fresh now.
Speaker 2So it is not only a visual thing for you, it's like a placebo effect of like energized I have a theory.
Speaker 1So I think neurotransmitters, they send feedback to your brain, right? So if you are making like an angry face, you might start to feel like angry, right.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1I can't make that face anymore. I can't make an angry face. This is my face when I'm angry. Now, wait, wait, try to give me an angry face. This is my face when.
Speaker 2I'm angry now, but I, I can't do it. Oh my god, are you serious? That is so. Wait, is this real? This is real.
Speaker 1Do it, I can my God, Are you serious? That is so Wait is this real, this is real. Do it. I can't make a face.
Speaker 2So I think like the neurotransmitters are doing their thing and I actually feel happier. I believe you because that is fucking creepy.
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Speaker 1Yeah, so I look better and I feel happier, so it's a win-win Even that fucking face was like literally so hard for you to do.
Speaker 2Oh and it wasn't even angry, right, you looked crazy when you tried to do it. I mean you looked hot, but you look like a crazy hot girl like you know how kardashian like can't yes, yeah, oh, my god, that's the vibe. So what about when you cry? Like, how does that look?
Speaker 1maybe you could make me cry, because I actually am pmsing right now so you could probably get me to cry if you push me far enough. But maybe you don't want to do that, because I'm either gonna cry or I might like kill me yeah, I didn't want to say it, just in case you know I don't want to go to jail.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no. You can't go to jail at this point in your life. No, not like your friend, who's in jail, that we're going to visit.
Speaker 1Yes, okay, so my friend, that's crazy. Her name is Tanya Slimick. We were talking about her before. Yes, I used to hang out with her all the time. She was my friend from Applebee's and she is in jail in Tennessee.
Speaker 2Killed her husband.
Speaker 1Boyfriend killed her boyfriend with a pink revolver and was it self-defense?
Speaker 2that's what she told me, but she shot him in the back of the head, so do you think he was trying to like maybe reach for a gun and meant like, kill her?
Speaker 1she told me that he said that he was going to go kill her family. Okay you know what he was like he, so she he had, from what she told me, and she never reported any of these instances. This is why, like domestic violence can be trigger warning.
Speaker 2Yes, trigger warning.
Speaker 1This is why domestic violence is so serious, cause not only did he beat the shit out of her and hurt her numerous times, and she never. I feel like most people don't report their abuser Right she was pushed to the point where she killed someone.
Speaker 2This is serious. I mean, you can't threaten verbally, but I will say like, in comparison, my mother was threatened by my cousin who is no longer with us, rip.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2She was threatened by him because he was, you know, on drugs in and out of jail and she was very unhappy with his like behavior and the way he was taking advantage of certain family members, like getting bailed out of jail from certain people, and so my mom was letting it like, let him have it like, be like, you can't treat my family like this, you can't. And he threatened her that he was going to come over there and take care of her. Oh, and she's not a scared person, but that really shook her up a bit, because think about it Somebody that's on under the influence on drugs?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's been in and out of jail. Yeah, they could be capable of these kind of actions.
Speaker 2So I understand her logic your previous colleague friend, yes, but I mean she cannot be going out and like murdering somebody if somebody threatens her because you're right like she should have called the police um or got a restraining order, but in her head she's probably like he's nuts he's fucking capable, he could be yeah, and you can't really say, like, what someone could have should have done, especially when they're a victim, because now look at her, she's stuck in jail until 100.
Speaker 1Yeah, until like 93, 94. 96, was that it. But, anyways, I. She was my friend. I became friends with her before I found out about this. I guess she was on like she's bailed out or something while I met her, but I think I'm gonna write to her and her.
Speaker 2That's scary that somebody can get yes, can murder someone and then be bailed.
Speaker 1This is educational you could be walking around with a murderer and not know it because, yes, you can be on bail, because you're innocent until proven guilty right I guess it was. She had to go to trial for it. I'm sorry you. Your junk is junking right now.
Speaker 2My junk is junking.
Speaker 1Those pants are just a little tight and it's starting to distract me.
Speaker 2I don't think you could see it. I don't think you could see it, but I mean I will say yeah, I think it's just like the leaner I get, the bigger certain things get.
Speaker 1I heard that, like every like, however many pounds a man gains, they lose like An inch of their dick.
Speaker 2Oh wow, I haven't noticed that, I've just noticed it feel like it's getting bigger.
Speaker 1Because you've lost weight. Yeah, so like it just seems like everything naturally just like increases in size, but like the smaller the waist gets uh-huh, yeah, so that I guess that's incentive to have a slim and trim waist when you're a man, if you want a big um cock.
Speaker 2I yeah, I mean, hey, what's a better? Name for a penis than um a schlong if you want a big schlong yeah, I feel like schlong is classy, like would you say schlong, or is that like, even like?
Speaker 1schlong. You know it sounds like french or something.
Speaker 2It does sound kind of classy, yes, like the french pole vaulter his schlong, nip the bar the schlong nip the bar.
Speaker 1Is that french? That's not french, it is you are.
Speaker 2I actually can see you very much like in france, like on, like some, like back of, like a moped well, you know what I'm actually. Actually, I will never get on a motorcycle or a moped because I'm not trying to kill myself, but all I'm gonna even with the helmet no I or a moped, because I'm not trying to kill myself, but all I'm going to say is Even with the helmet.
Speaker 1No, I just won't do it. I'm not into it.
Speaker 2You're so boring.
Speaker 1I'm pretty basic bitch boring. I mean which, by the way, it is now pumpkin spice season. You can now get a pumpkin spice at Starbucks. So that's my announcement.
Speaker 2I just love the transition. It's so like when I think of basic Mitch, I think of Penn State, pumpkin, spice, ugg boots, orange, tan and North Face jacket when I was in college.
Speaker 1That's me without the orange. I never was orange.
Speaker 2No, thank God you didn't do the spray tan, because you had that beautiful glow but Uggs, and had a beautiful face. There's nothing comfier and like, oh my god, and leggings, little leggings with it, yeah, or like that is so basic.
Speaker 1Yes, oh my god, I'm ready, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 2You are fucking here for it and you are ready to go back. They never really went out like completely but they were like strong and then kind of like trickled I didn't realize that they were back until my little, like five-year-old or seven-year-old cousin was like it went.
Speaker 1can I have egg boots? Because I feel like I'm a seven-year-old and I'm really spoiled and I think that I deserve Ugg boots. Oh my god, I got my three-year-old Ugg boots last year.
Speaker 2Oh shit. So yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not saying anything's wrong with it, I just think in some weird way it's like when you are giving somebody like Uggs or whatever, even like these crazy requests at such an early age, like now, like what's the next thing, and then the next thing, and it's like it's exhausting I hear you and I know my husband is.
Speaker 1He knows he's in trouble he is.
Speaker 2That's why I'm like shocked that he's like yeah, baby, get the extensions. Yeah, baby, get the botox, get the eyelashes, get the whatever you want, because it's a cycle. He's's going to keep going, going, going, going going.
Speaker 1You can tell how well off a man is by looking at his wife.
Speaker 2Mmm Trophy.
Speaker 1If she's looking like a trophy, like a snack, then he's doing good.
Speaker 2I like the sound of that.
Speaker 1If she's like, worn down and tired, looking like I don't know, he might not be helping out much, he might not be doing well, or she might just be a mom. She might just be a mom.
Speaker 2Hey, what about the work wives that are like the breadwinners? What about them?
Speaker 1Well, they don't need no man, they don't need it.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's true. I mean, hey, I totally get that Like I thought I was going to, you know, follow this one into like the sunset and just kind of sit pretty. And I remember being in italy and kind of getting a little cocky with like, oh yeah, we're going here, and then you know we're going to london, and then we're going here and then all of a sudden, boom, it's gone right mic drop well, here's the thing I wasn't going to sacrifice my lifestyle because I was going to transition to being a stay-at-home mom.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, I just like every time.
Speaker 1As I was saying, a stay-at-home mom.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1I'm sorry.
Speaker 2You're giving me big alpha, big ball, energy, like like you're the man wearing the pants, but a sexy little bra oh shit, okay, so trending topic alert yes, what's the trends?
Speaker 1um, and I want your opinion before I give you mine this time oh, okay, I like it demure, demure demure is the new like thing right now.
Speaker 2It's new bird oh, I like demure it's just blowing up, are we? Pronouncing it right, because you know we have a problem with pronunciation you're the one with a problem, not me.
Speaker 1Um, so it is snap. She is on it today, demure demure.
Speaker 2I like to make you feel demure you're choking me, I can't talk are you gonna choke on that dick? Somebody needs to grow up I'm sorry, I just had like a really fun night, but anyway.
Speaker 1We're going to talk about that next. We don't need to keep. We're going to talk about that next.
Speaker 2I always like interject. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1Okay, how do you feel about the word demure?
Speaker 2I love demure, but I think it's demure. I like that. But let's see, how do you pronounce demure?
Speaker 1demure, demure, you're right I'm always right um anyways how do you feel so? Let me give you some history. I don't, I don't think you're like on tiktok, like I am I think you're too busy working, but see, I actually have a tiktok I do you. I actually do too. I just have like two followers.
Shifting Perceptions and Self-Reflection
Speaker 2I just have two followers you need to actually put a profile picture and not just like this kelly ms gorski, like one, two, three, four, five, like come up with the user okay, yeah, mine looks a little sketch, I guess, but okay.
Speaker 1So demure is a word um that you don't hear much these days or you didn't until recently right and it's used. It was used as a huge compliment for women or a girl, like back in like the 50s maybe don't quote me on that, but like back in the day um, for shy, quiet and modest Cause that's how they wanted women and girls to be back then Right, and I love that that's changed.
Speaker 1Yes, exactly. Um. So the word Jim Demure, that's so funny. It comes from the French term. That's why you pronounce it in a French accent. You knew that it comes from a French term that means sober, grave or serious. So that's where it's like derived from.
Speaker 2So, now that you know the history, how do you feel about it? Dude, I'm all about the meal or the mirror. Okay, I like it because, as I'm getting more serious with my career in potting and selling real estate and you know listing and all that shit I do want to be more serious. I do want to be more like, you know, a little bit scary well, it's more like shy, quiet and modest.
Speaker 1It's like the actual definition for english terms. Well, I think you quiet and modest.
Speaker 2It's like the actual definition for English terms. Well, I think you are shy, quiet and modest until something changed in your life, where you got this big fucking like ego. Yep, you did Honestly like I love that about you. I think it was like always brought out whenever we were partying. And then something shifted. I think you just kind of came into your own. I think it's probably being a mom, but it was traveling around the country for the last 10 years. That's it.
Speaker 1And I and I, I came into my own, so I could be a good mom one day.
Speaker 2Yes, because I think you were like flailing and you're like, because I even got like a 10 year notification that your wedding was august 30th 10 years ago.
Speaker 1Can you believe what?
Speaker 2the fuck. I was flying back from minneapolis and I'm like this is gonna be the wedding of the century, and it really was I know we didn't get enough pictures together. I will say but okay so you, so you, you kind of like the word okay, because I want to be more demure I don't want to be so loud and obnoxious, like I used to be I'm gonna say this, and I've actually thought about that.
Speaker 1I've thought about it because I'm not trying to like oh, you were fucked up today I'm so sorry um the bubbles. So I'm not trying to like bite anyone's head off or act like better assholes that are like using the word demure but.
Speaker 2I don't like it I think I don't like it. I think.
Speaker 1I don't like it. I think that women shouldn't be like shy, modest.
Speaker 2Well, maybe men should be demure like Trump. Well, I think we're not going to bring politics into this.
Speaker 1Okay, I'm kidding, I do think some men could be a little more demure. Maybe, maybe, maybe you know what All? That it's shifting, you know what All these women that are like oh Demir, demir, maybe it's the men that need to start?
Speaker 2jumping on this trend, including myself Ding, ding, ding. More Demir will do me well, demir baby.
Speaker 1Okay, now, this is what I think, and I actually thought about it and I'm like I think that words and their definition can kind of change over time. So, the definition shy, quiet and modest is like from back in the day right, you look so hot thank, uh, thank you, um, and so now I think it's more of a statement of, like, self-awareness.
Speaker 1So I think that when, when women that are doing this tiktok trend that are like, oh, I want to be demure, I want to be very mindful, very, you know, I don't want to show my titties anymore, yeah, which I'm not about that life, but, um, I just think that it's. It is about being, like, mindful and considerate of people around you we say mindful a lot and inspiring a little cutesy in there yeah, that's demure now.
Speaker 1That's, that's now the new definition. Add that to your book. Webster Webster's Dictionary. Change it up. That's the definition now.
Speaker 2Oh shit, she is getting on top. Yeah, jump on it, baby, you are, you are. Literally. I'm loving this little sassafras.
Speaker 1You are coming, I'm coming. It's not the real me, it's the PMS.
Speaker 2I love when you go like this, like you're, like you kind of have that little creep up. I don't know if that's the Botox or what. I don't have Botox down there, you asshole. No, no, no, no. I just think I love that little, like I love when you go like I don't know.
Speaker 1So you were going to tell me about what your date you had a date yesterday.
Speaker 2Oh shit, I don't know. I need somebody that you like want to work with. Then, like they're basically doing the same thing.
Speaker 1I am no way Not in the same office, though, right? Oh no, oh good. We don't want to mix work and pleasure. Okay, go on.
Speaker 2You are such a naughty little kitty today. I know yeah, so went on and I listen. I was probably nodded. Are you looking at yourself?
Speaker 1Yeah, I am.
Speaker 2Oh my God, Like stop, like I know you're like. You're like fucking hot, but like you don't need to be like so like obsessed. You're like literally like the generation's problem right now like it's like looking. I just want to make sure that I look okay no, but like you're literally like the epitome of, like our generation's problem like, stop like being obsessed with yourself.
Speaker 2You constantly look in the mirror, you're always fussing with your hair. It's like all like oh, do I look okay? Like, oh, is this angle good? Like, no, no, do another one. It's like what the fuck really?
Speaker 1do you want to debate? Do you want to have a debate? Uh, about who the real fucking problem is in this world will the real fucking problem.
Speaker 2Please stand up, you are too fucking cute I just want to eat you up today. You're too much I just like want to eat you oh my god, you're too much today.
Speaker 1Let's hear about your date please. I'm hungry can you please just be focused and talk about your?
Speaker 2date. I just can't stop, won't stop can't stop.
Speaker 1We can stop at taco bell on the way home. Oh good, can we?
Speaker 2get that shrimp taco with extra trout yeah, because they totally have that.
Speaker 1I'll be getting the cheesy gordito crunch okay, you fucking never mind.
Speaker 2You're an orange theory bitch. You're an orange theory bitch. I know what you were about to say. That was see, that's where I have to filter myself, because when it's just me and you after dark we are not together after dark.
Speaker 1I know.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what your neighbors think. That's what they think. They think that I just take my little PT cruiser home.
Speaker 1Okay, there's actually something wrong with both of us today. I know, is it a full moon? I'm buzzed.
Speaker 2It's got to be a full moon. Oh my God, dude, I'm like literally salivating because you're making me.
Speaker 1Oh shit, I gave you the wrong bottle. Oh fuck, what the fuck?
Speaker 2Oh my god, no number seven was I lost my streak.
Speaker 1Something is wrong with us, but I don't know if it's because you're literally making me so fucking sweaty I know I literally can't like maybe we're getting like heat poisoning right now I know, I'm literally like it's so warm in here I don't know if it's like the cotton in here it's so hot in here, I'm not not kidding.
Speaker 2I'm so fucking wet.
Speaker 1You're always wet.
Speaker 2Oh shit.
Speaker 1You got that WAP.
Speaker 2Wet-ass pussy Certified free, seven days a week.
Speaker 1Get a bucket and a mop for that wet-ass pussy.
Speaker 2Okay, okay, baby, I would like to hear your story now about your, my hot date, not your colleague, but your my hot date last night. Yes, okay, so there wasn't a date, was not?
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2But do you want me to tell you how it ended or how it started?
Speaker 1Both.
Speaker 2Well, which first you want to reverse? Is it fun to do the reverse? You know what that's flip it in reverse twist it back and flip it okay, yeah, so the ending was um, hmm, okay, so if the ending was something inappropriate, just say it. There was just like okay, it got to the point where it was like this is a little bit like oh shit, like I don't think we're allowed to be like this, like touchy, touchy, feely, feely, and it's just like the walk to the car.
Speaker 1Oh my God, did this happen in the open house?
Speaker 2no, it's oh okay, it was literally like coming back from where we would meet for like a drink. And I had a mocktail. I had two athleticas athletic beers. Are you looking at my pack?
Speaker 1um, it's just, you know that um song. Walking down the street, something caught my eye yes you're grossing people out with your camel toe, oh shit that's right, it's a camel oh no, fix yourself, girl.
Speaker 2You've got a camel toe, but you've got the boy version oh, so you can see like the sack, like kind of in between it yes, I, I can oh, so, sorry I'm so sorry so it's not that like, it just keeps catching my eye you know what it's like sitting right there this is my problem and I think my friend panucci can understand this. Uh-huh, we have thick, huge, you have a huge ball sack.
Speaker 1Oh shit, don't be putting me on blast now, shit, oh my god, then everybody's gonna know he has the big ball sack. You're like chloe kardashian who has the big lips she always talks about how her camel toe is insane because her lips are massive.
Speaker 2Can we just talk about big ball guys? Like you know, these are big problems, big Big boy problems. Big ball guys Preach yeah, you get it, baby, big titty woman.
Speaker 1I do get it Big titted woman.
Real Estate and Design Industry Vibes
Speaker 2I get it. Finish your story. Do I look orange to you? No, okay, because I feel like I'm a little orange. I did a man tan. It's amazing man tan in Australia.
Speaker 1It looks good. Yeah it's amazing. I just thought that you were in the sun, maybe well it's.
Speaker 2It's literally like the best fucking tanner for men. It's for hair. So like most men have hair yeah they don't shave everywhere yeah and then it doesn't get orange. So I'm just thinking I feel a little orange from looking do you apply it to yourself or do you go somewhere? I have to apply it myself okay so so you can get it on Amazon. Man, tan is the shit.
Speaker 1Okay, that's what it's called. So man tan on Amazon.
Speaker 2Man tan on Amazon. You got to get it, boys. You are going to look fierce. What's the right word? Fierce sounds feminine. You're looking Gucci. Oh, I like a little Gucci.
Speaker 1Of course you do. Of course you do. Okay. So now let's actually be serious about this story. We're going to just go ahead and start over, okay.
Speaker 2We're walking to the car after the little happy hour, drinky winky.
Speaker 1Okay, this was with real estate agents, okay.
Speaker 2So this person is real estate interior design.
Speaker 1Oh my God, so exactly what you are.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's bizarre, oh, I don't know, okay, but the thing that is kind of cool about this concept is I'm realizing there is a need. So when I was doing it, everybody's like oh well, you're going to be like too like much, like you should just be like real estate agent salesperson that has design background in engineering education. Instead of you paying attention to me like you keep looking at yourself in the camera.
Speaker 1I want to be on camera right now you do not make sure that the camera's on you. That's why I'm looking at myself. Stop getting all upset with me. You're like off your rocker today. You're out to lunch.
Speaker 2Okay, says the girl that's always out till fucking lunch, going to Barney's getting her fucking sliced avocados and like toast. It's like you're out to lunch every fucking day, so I can be out to lunch, you know what.
Speaker 1This is serious, though, cause this is the podcast. Okay, if you don't stop, then we're going to have to stop this podcast If you don't stop, then we're going to have to stop this podcast. You can get my replacement.
Speaker 2Oh no, you know there is somebody that's trying to take your throne. Who she's a real estate agent? Who she's a blonde? She's like you. She's got a husband like you, oh my.
Speaker 1God and guess what?
Speaker 2Guess what, guess what her husband's name is.
Speaker 1Ryan.
Speaker 2No way, and he's like yours.
Speaker 1He's kind of letting her do her thing, meaning like Okay, let's be friends with her, but she's not allowed on the pod.
Speaker 2Okay, shit, oh God, oh God, oh, my God, it's kind of nuts.
Speaker 1Fuck. Now we might have to have her as a guest.
Speaker 2I know as, oh, my God, it's kind of nuts Fuck.
Speaker 1Now we might have to have her as a guest. I know as long as I'm here, I know, but can you?
Speaker 2imagine? Could you imagine how crazy it would be if she was like I want to just do the same thing that you're doing, but like real estate.
Speaker 1And then it's like you have like a robot twin. That's like trying to take your throne. I do have a robot twin because I'm wanting to do real estate too. I know, oh my God.
Speaker 2She's actually trying to take your job.
Speaker 1Yeah, I guess I better run faster.
Speaker 2I just told her. I was like I don't know if you want to like cross her because she will cut.
Speaker 1I'll cut a bitch. Yeah Little fluffy, all right.
Speaker 2OK. So I don't know if the reverse is going to be like that meaningful. Should we reverse it or should we go from the beginning?
Speaker 1Okay, fine, go from the beginning.
Speaker 2Okay, so go to a spot in Lawrenceville.
Speaker 2It's really cool Meeting interior design real estate guy and really talented, hilarious, like such similar backgrounds and like went to Penn State, went to New York no way, and then I'm like you're also doing the same thing, but like have more years of experience but the same age, like so I'm getting inspired, I'm like realizing that, like you know, this is something that's meaningful and they actually are hired just to be the designer but involved with the real estate team. Yeah, and I just think it's kind of nuts Vibes are good, you know, having a nice little, like you know brush in the like, you know, just constantly, just like very subtle touchy touch, but like not too much, because we're in public.
Speaker 2Now, did you know that he was potentially bisexual or gay? Oh yeah, I thought he was totally, and then he didn't know that I was bisexual and he was really into the fact that I was talking about like girlfriends. Because then I was like, hey, like you know, I was dating this person, hooking up with this person and then like, really like this person yeah, had this girl and then he was like really like into that. Okay, very much so. He was like tell me more about the girl.
Speaker 2Okay, it was almost like. I think you know some of these guys. They find it so like, hot, like when you talk about like you being like.
Speaker 1I think they want to feel like you're snatching you from the women.
Speaker 2Yeah, cause that is kind of hot, you from the women, yeah, because that is kind of hot, right, I think so. I mean, in some weird way. It's like I said to him I was like you know, there's a lot of like guys that are available that it's kind of like easy to like snag and like snatch, but the women it's like, oh, like you know, when you see like a girl that you're like damn, that bitch is fierce, that bitch has got those fucking apple bottom, that bitch has got those titties, yeah, like that long hair. Like whenever I see you walking down the street and that flow, I'm like fuck, oh, wait, shit, that's my bestie yeah, because I'm always just like walking down the street.
Speaker 1You are, don't? You know, I'm like cooped up, I'm just cooped up, I'm just a cooped up housewife.
Speaker 2I know I might actually have some client that might be interested in your house.
Speaker 1Seriously, so you need to finish your story first, and then we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2Yeah, Okay, but yeah, so good vibes. And then they were like hey, like we should go, what?
Speaker 1What are you laughing at? You are just seriously so out of control. Today I'm actually starting to like, feel like you're a toddler.
Speaker 2I am, but that's okay, it's okay, just like Eva.
Speaker 1Yeah, mommy, mommy, no, okay, anyways, yeah, drink up.
Speaker 2Okay, that makes me feel better.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2Good, okay, that makes me feel better. Okay, good, okay. So okay, tell your fucking story don't be acting like that now.
Speaker 1Would you like to be at all sassy for it? You have some pms or something. I already told you. That was full disclosure okay, okay, anyways.
Speaker 2so yeah, good times, vibes, whatever, very much so like on the same page, design real estate 33, new York. Then went back to my core. I kind of was like, hey, I gotta get up early, you gotta get up early very much so. And then there was, like you know, this shitty chatty and they're, like you know, being all flirty, and then they're like wait, I haveirty. And then they're like wait, I have, I'm in a break. I'm I'm actually with somebody, but we're on a break, and I was like hey, respect, respect mad respect.
Speaker 2Yeah, I thought you're gonna say it was celibate I mean I don't know, I guess for two weeks, maybe because they're on a pause.
Speaker 1Yeah, and I was just like you were like I'm gonna change that.
Speaker 2Oh, no, no, no, no. You know what I think it was. I was kind of like relieved because I was like I need to be focused yeah I wanted to do this for the business sense, but I was feeling it, having a good time vibes vibes, vibes vibes. But then I'm like good, I love when somebody is unavailable because then it's either a chase, it's hotter Got to work a little harder. When it's just thrown at you, you don't even appreciate it Boring.
Speaker 2Yes, whenever it's like too easy, but I also don't want to be a cheater.
Speaker 1Cheater, pumpkin eater you didn't cheat on anyone. You're single right, but I don't want to be that full disclaimer like and this is just my opinion and it's actually a fact, but oh, you're always throwing the facts attitude today is terrible but if somebody like chill, the fuck out if somebody cheats on their spouse, it's not the person's fault that they cheated with it. Is that person who cheated? It's their fault?
Speaker 2oh yeah, and listen just fun fact oh yeah, I really do think that you should finish your story oh yeah, so good vibes.
Speaker 2But they like we tried to like maybe like have a little like kiss here and there, maybe like here, and then you could tell that. But then we were like you are clearly in a relationship, on a pause, on a break, like maybe there can be things, but I don't think we want to do that to the other person, to the partner that you're on the break with, because maybe there a role in regulation no, no sex.
Speaker 1You know what, when you're on a break, roles don't apply anymore period, period, okay.
Speaker 2So maybe there could have been something, but they didn't push it break with someone that you care about.
Speaker 1You just don't you know what I mean. Like I wouldn't be like, oh like, if you ask for a break, you gotta know that anything could happen.
Speaker 2Then, like it's done well, they didn't push it, so I didn't push it either okay so like if they would have pushed it, because you know how. You said this, like whenever I was dating I would be more accepted or more acceptable to somebody hunting me.
Speaker 1Susceptible.
Speaker 2Susceptible, susceptible, I guess I would be like you know, I'm not going to go chase after it unless I'm really hungry, and I guess I was just not that hungry.
Speaker 1Oh, wow, okay, Because you're always hungry. I don't know, maybe I was just more or less like hey, like this new me is all about real estate, podcasting, networking. You're so focused. Yes, I've never seen you so laser focused, and I don't know if it's because you're in your 30s now 30s older, yeah, and I see like I appreciate a man in their 30s yeah, it's not in their 20s where they're just fucking around they're not thinking with their dick anymore.
Speaker 1No, they're actually thinking with their brain, and that's hot that's hot, unless they can like.
Speaker 2Maybe let's have a quick lunchy fuck then that I'm not saying that the dick doesn't exist.
Speaker 1I'm just saying they're not thinking with it anymore, like thinking straight you're not gonna have a full night following the head of their dick around anymore like the compass map.
Unicorn Entertainer and Genuine Connection
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, hot girl, yeah, yeah yeah, north north, north south abort mission.
Speaker 1Okay, so did it work out? Did you end up?
Speaker 2oh no, I went home.
Speaker 1No hookup, uh-uh, no hookup I am so proud of you for not being a slut for once. Yes, cheers to that. Cheers to that.
Speaker 2Okay, but hey, they weren't pushing it, so maybe I would have if they pushed it. I think I was tired.
Speaker 1I'm gonna need a follow-up, because there might have been so much sexual tension yeah, and it comb something combusted Something. Something still might happen.
Speaker 2Oh for sure, I think it's just like you know what. I'm more of like a, not the like first nightstand. I'm like the second nightstand.
Speaker 1Oh, I love that. That's so respectable. Yeah, like you. That's so demure, that's demure.
Speaker 2It so mindful, so, cutesy. Yes, I was very demure and you know one thing I did like about this person they were like asking me all the questions. You know how like we have to ask all the questions, like for guests. Yeah, and I think in some ways, like we probably do want to talk about ourselves, but we don't want to come across as like full of ourselves, right?
Speaker 2So it was nice to be asked a million questions and I was like loving, like just chatting and like talking about me, and I'm like, yeah, I would love to talk about me all night. Like it was so good. I was like, oh my God, you just gave me a stroke by ego and you're like talking all about me.
Speaker 1And I was like is this a?
Speaker 2tactic. I feel like it was a tactic.
Speaker 1That's what.
Speaker 2I'm wondering.
Speaker 1I don't know, though, because it was genuine, or they might be shopping. They're shopping around because they're on a break. Oh, they're not looking to, like you know, fully do something. That's regrettable.
Speaker 2They really cared about my life.
Speaker 1That's really cool.
Speaker 2Weird.
Speaker 1That's hard to find. Someone like that honest to God, like to God, like those genuine people that actually give a fuck. They are unicorns amongst all the horses.
Speaker 2I knew that this person was a unicorn from following them and looking at their reels and like. I just knew like I'm like that is a fucking entertainer and I love an entertainer.
Speaker 1Oh, me too I need to be entertained 24 seven or I'm bored I know.
Speaker 2And then you're like oh fuck, I'm sorry, we're out of time. This is or I'm bored, I know, and then you're like oh, I'm sorry, we're out of time, this is kelly msgorski and ryan frankovsky, and you are watching, mom kills her message.
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