Mocktails Or Messy

#57 Bad Friends and Big Changes

Ryan Frankowski & Kelly Mizgorski
Speaker 1:

Honestly, it feels like I don't even know who I'm podcasting with anymore.

Speaker 2:

What I'm like talking to other people and they're like my God, wow, you're like ripped and I wasn't, but it was just the shirt I had on.

Speaker 1:

Let's get a body check on you. This is what a sober body looks like, though no, this isn't that hard. First and foremost, we love to have a good time, and I think it's so inspiring for others to see you are still out here living your best life, having a great time. You don't need the cock to do it, I mean, you need the other cock, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

Hi there, oh, my're back. We're back in the studio. Welcome to mocktails are messy. This is kelly mzgorski and franco frankovsky I okay. So I was scrolling on tiktok and I saw you popped up and you said that you're now going by the name Franco. Can you, can you explain that, because I mean, I don't know to call you now.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I mean, what do you feel like? I think there's too many Ryans in this world and I just didn't fit the mold.

Speaker 1:

I agree. I agree, you don't fit the mold. Um, I am fine calling you franco, I call you both.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, I call you, ryan, and I call you franco.

Speaker 1:

I are you gonna be offended if I let ryan slip?

Speaker 2:

oh no, I love when you let ryan slip, because listen professionally, like I just couldn't keep going back and forth and be like, oh, I have to correct this person for real estate, or even you know like, just like it's, it's complicated yeah, yeah, no, I totally get that.

Speaker 2:

So for real estate, you're Franco or Ryan, you know what so they have this guy Ryan and he is a really top producer. Okay, so really I thought to myself I'm like I can't be another Ryan top producer. If I'm aspiring to be that guy, I don't want to have like two Ryans. It's like, okay, ryan from this location and then Ryan from this. You know, it just felt like and everybody started calling me Franco, because I think that they just thought maybe the long hair was Franco, I don't know. I mean, you know me from back in the day.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you'd look like a Franco.

Speaker 2:

I'll take it.

Speaker 1:

The hair, I think For sure. But if you go, if you go, faux hawk again, you're Ryan.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, so switch it back to Ryan.

Speaker 1:

Right, exactly.

Speaker 2:

I'm loving this. Get up. You got going.

Speaker 1:

It's giving me Caribbean summertime vibes Soaking up every ounce of summer that we have left.

Speaker 2:

I know, have you guys done the pool, the beach? Barely Nothing.

Speaker 1:

No, too many house renovations happening right now with us.

Speaker 2:

I know we do have a lot to talk about. This has been the longest amount of time we've taken a pause. I want to say it's maybe a summer break. We haven't been in the studio.

Speaker 1:

We did have like a summer break, not intentionally, I don't think. I think a lot of it had to do with you have moved.

Speaker 2:

I have. I've moved to the south hills, from the north hills to the south hills, and the city apartment is still under renovation oh my gosh, are you still trying to go there?

Speaker 1:

I am okay I'm trying.

Speaker 2:

I mean this the, the shower looks amazing. I think I sent you a photo.

Speaker 1:

I think I'm like how are you gonna, how are you gonna be living with your boyf now, yeah, and like, how are you gonna move out? Like what's gonna justify that?

Speaker 2:

because I feel like it's weird, like a pianotere. Okay, what is that? It's like maria. What is the pianotere? It's a. It's an apartment in the city. It's a french word. It's basically like your city flat, your city apartment. Okay, well, that's cool suburban house.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm all about it, I would. I kind of want that too, I know you're a country girl yeah, maybe I you can airbnb it to me, just to me, I would love that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, and I mean you, you like if you're not staying there yeah, no, I mean, listen, we're still. You know the whole rigamarole. We're still waiting on the other one.

Speaker 1:

I'm parched. Can we have this? You are parched. I'm excited to try this.

Speaker 2:

This looks so good Spiced peanut Rita.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so how did you find this?

Speaker 2:

I went to our trustworthy open road. It is now relocated to Garfield. Okay, everybody's relocating now because our studio, that we Used to film out of was in East Liberty, right near Orange City, duolingo. Am I saying it right?

Speaker 1:

Yep sure.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we got to try this Pinarita Parch Spirits.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

It's a distinctive, non-alcoholic agave cocktail inspired by the serona desert and the lush biodiversity it keeps I can smell the spice. It's peppery gotta take my gum out it's good, this hits the spot.

Speaker 1:

tell me that's not a mocktail, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

That's so good.

Speaker 1:

It gives you the same effect.

Speaker 2:

Okay, it's really good, but it smells a little weird.

Speaker 1:

It smells kind of like bad breath.

Speaker 2:

What do you think that is?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, maybe, like I don't know there's agave, there's smoky cayenne.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it might be the smoky cayenne. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I love it. It's got L-theanine, l-theanine ginseng, okay, so I'm down with it. I like it. I have been caffeine free for two weeks.

Speaker 1:

How's that going?

Speaker 2:

It's so much better. I feel like I'm less anxious, I'm less sleep deprived. Do you know that one day that we were in the studio with our last guest, there was like I think I was just on another level of like trying to caffeinate myself?

Speaker 1:

I was just acting fucking weird you were. You were like you had pushed yourself beyond your limit. I think you're. You were crutching on the caffeine yes and it wasn't doing it for you anymore, so you're just beyond your limit. Yeah, and you were like crashing, like I couldn't get you to like perk up if I tried.

Speaker 2:

I think I was also stressed because I was doing that like education course and then, like you know, real estate, and then I mean I keep harping on this stuff Like these are real world problems.

Speaker 1:

You have a family to raise harping on this stuff like these are real world problems. You have a family to raise. It's okay. A lot of shit going on in your life that does not, you know, make it different for you yeah like, your life experience is just different.

Speaker 2:

I know it's good we all have our own problems I know, like we do right now oh well, okay, so we do want to dial.

Speaker 1:

We're going to delve into there is this duo that is making us uncomfortable. Do you want to delve into that now?

Speaker 2:

we absolutely can yeah, I think it's time to go deep okay.

Speaker 1:

So I do feel a little uncomfortable. Um, I do feel a little uncomfortable talking about this, but I've been thinking about it and we have to decide, like, who gets access to us, like as people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Not even just you and I in general, and like who we let in versus who we keep it like an arm's length Right.

Speaker 2:

Agreed.

Speaker 1:

And like who we let in versus who we keep at like an arm's length right. Agreed. And I'm noticing some people that need to be, maybe not even this close, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because, like I'm starting to get creeped out, yeah, it does get to that point where you're just like they're not understanding that you know the limited communication and the like not available, and like trying to reschedule with you, Like have you guys ever had somebody who is wanting more from you than you can actually give them?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because that's like. That's when like the little red flag and the siren starts going off for me. It's like you're wanting more than I can give you. So, like we've been running, we're running into this situation together, this little duo that we know, and I'm telling you, at 34, we thought we've been past like all this stuff, but apparently we're not. And it's like some people want all access passes like to your time, your energy, your life. They're texting you non-stop, they're sending invites left and right and then, if you don't respond right away, they get upset, like genuinely upset, and then like kind of controlling and then like that creeps me out as a woman, I know for you. I talked to you about this. You said that you don't exactly feel creeped out.

Speaker 1:

No because I guess you don't feel like in danger. But for me that's like. It's almost like I feel a bit in danger. It's not like, oh hey, let's just grab dinner sometime. It's like pressure and it's keeping score. They're keeping score on us and it's like genuinely getting scary. So what is your like emotionally honest?

Speaker 2:

take on it I am so like past this kind of behavior because I think to myself like I don't even have kids or like I'm not married yet, so like, for me, I have a lot of freedom. But then I'm also kind of like when somebody is like with a family, has a family themselves and is like digging and digging and trying to pry into, like you know, just being like relative, relevant and present, yeah, and you're just like well, we have a lot to work on. I have a full time job. This is a full time job. You have a full to work on. I have a full-time job. This is a full-time job. You have a full-time job. This like it's like everybody is so busy so it's like why do you care so much?

Speaker 2:

yeah, to make plans and to like to revisit. I don't know I'm just.

Speaker 1:

I'm all about being a good friend, I'm all about that. But you have to pick and choose who your inner circle is, and you know. Here's the truth. We've started to feel more like drained than like excited to see this person yeah and so that's like, that's a red flag. So just because someone wants to like see you doesn't mean that you owe them that no and you know I'm all about protecting my peace lately and I'm just not going to.

Speaker 2:

It's a big buzzy, like. I feel like when did that start? I feel like that's become like a thing.

Speaker 1:

You know what? I think? It got heavy a few months ago and like they're pushing these two people together. They're like a duo. They're pushing for like time.

Speaker 2:

They're pushing for our attention, they're pushing for us to validate them. I know, and I had to be real and I put in that message. I was like, hey, we'd love to work with you, I think it'd be a great idea.

Speaker 2:

Let's work on, like you know, commission, let's inflate yours and then let's create a partnership, but we don't have time to just like hang out and connect Me and you would love to get together, but you're so like. You're in the North Hills, I'm in the South Hills, I'm in the city, you have a family, so it's like we don't even get to spend time like on a personal level. So what makes these people feel like we have the time to just hang out and kick it?

Speaker 1:

I wonder how they have the time Honestly feel like we have the time to just hang out and kick it. I wonder how they have the time Honestly like, and I like.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying I don't have time for friends. Do you think that they just I don't know? Do you think they're just like have like a wealthy family? Do you think I don't think?

Speaker 1:

so I just think it's coming to the point where, like some, people can get obsessive over who they want to be around and they want to be around us for some ungodly reason, and it's too much clingy, it's it's too clingy, and we've all gone through this and we're not just saying us like we're not we're not making us say I'm like, we're just like bigger than we are.

Speaker 2:

We're just stating like, in general, we know other people have gone through this and they've made the time because they were too nice about it. But once, once you talk about it, once you put it out there, like we want to share this so that we connect with other people that understand what we're going through.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause you might be going through this right now, you might go through it next year or maybe you've already been through it, but I guess, like how do you know when a friendship is fueling you versus exhausting you? I mean, we know now, but like we could have caught this sooner, if I'm being honest.

Speaker 2:

We could have. I think we want to just be like people pleasers, and I think people pleasing was a thing of the past.

Speaker 1:

I have too much empathy. I have too much empathy and I I don't want to hurt someone's feelings.

Speaker 2:

Well, you say that I can be too harsh whenever I'm being direct.

Speaker 1:

Yes. And have I always been like that, even from a yes, but when you weren't sober it was easier for you to brush that harshness under a rug or be more joking about it. Now that you have been sober for over a year, you're very cut and dry and to the point. And it can come off extremely harsh to somebody.

Speaker 2:

That's true. And listen, I think sobriety made me realize that I was wearing a mask.

Speaker 2:

I was numbing things when things were not going in my head space. I thought was like things are getting chaotic, so I just numbed it and then I would brush it under the rug. Now I'm taking the things out of the rug and I'm saying, okay, this works for me, this doesn't work for me. That other person over there, this duo, we don't even necessarily work for them because they need somebody that is available, that doesn't have a busy ass life, right and listen. We could make the time, but we want to make the time with our family.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or we want to make the time with our kids. You have kids. Exactly you want to make the time with things that are important.

Speaker 1:

Right, not everybody is welcome into that inner circle. Everybody has an inner circle. The rider dies. However many people you can fit in that circle, that's on you. Everybody has a different capacity.

Speaker 2:

Comment below how many people are in your inner circle?

Speaker 1:

Your rider dies, I think mine is five. Yeah, mine's probably, you know, three to five. Five I'd have to like count, I know at least family count is the inner circle I I'm right now not counting family, because they're just like they're all their blood yeah for yeah, but and then don't get it confused with the middle circle, like friends that you have and you like, but maybe they're not always available or you're not always available. Then we have the outer circle, which is acquaintances.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and acquaintances? You don't feel bad. They don't feel bad. If you can't like, make it work for a couple months. I mean you know even some of our ride or dies. You might not talk to them for months but, that's a ride or die, because then you pick up where you just left off.

Speaker 1:

Right, and they're not. Not, they're not guilting you and making you feel weird about it and pressuring you, you know, and it's okay to shift people around like to the outward circle from the inner, or vice versa?

Speaker 2:

do you think that you're more empathetic because of your star sign being a gemini? Yes and do you also think it's because you're a female, or is that irrelevant?

Speaker 1:

I, I think that it. I. I mean, I've met some stone cold bitches. I love them but I um and I can be that way if I'm pmsing, but uh, yeah, I do think it's hard being a female.

Speaker 2:

I think that you're more empathetic, naturally, yeah yeah, I think men are lucky in a way that we can just get away with being dicks and it's like or you can just be like kind of more direct and there's not as much um like animosity towards us, um, there's not as much like like negative comments, like I feel like we're allowed to, which is kind of fucked up, and I'm not, I'm not pride, I'm not proud of that. That we still have that going on. But that's why I think me and you like, I'm always like I'm a little bit too direct with this duo and I'm like, hey, if you're able to work, I think that's great, let's make a deal.

Speaker 1:

But we cannot hang out and like I mean, we could hang out if it's business related.

Speaker 2:

Or I don't even know at this point, because you know with me like and I mean you said yourself, like I said, maybe when real estate slows down and you were like Ryan that's or Franco, that's not a good thing. You don't want it to slow down you want it to speed up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you want to keep climbing the ladder. Don't want it to slow down, you want it to speed up. Yeah, you want to keep climbing the ladder. You know? Give us ideas on how to respectfully end this relationship with this duo. And I say respectfully because I don't know if they're stable, these two.

Speaker 2:

I don't want them coming for us I mean, I'm just being honest um so I mean like that one girl that keyed my car yeah, yeah, exactly so you know.

Speaker 1:

But boundaries, they're not walls, they're filters, and I love what you say the natural Brita filtration system of life You've said that before I love it. It's the natural Brita, but you know some people, they confuse availability with loyalty and that's like where things can get messy.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

Cheers to being a little less messy Cheers to that and, at the end of the day, letting someone into your inner circle is a privilege and not everybody earns that. Oh my gosh, I feel like my.

Speaker 2:

This is delicious.

Speaker 1:

What are these? Like your glands? I'm like so swollen right now because I'm like I think I'm getting sick, oh no.

Speaker 2:

You're not going to get sick. Are you From this?

Speaker 1:

dang back to school. Thing.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, oh great, the kid is going to be bringing all of the germs home.

Speaker 2:

And you're like thank fucking God.

Speaker 1:

But I did just get new carpet on my stairs and like the smell of it, it's like off gassing. It could be that hurting my throat. You know, when your throat just kind of hurts, I think that you might be um a hypochondriac. I might be, I do always think something's wrong with me.

Speaker 2:

But there is a lot wrong with me.

Speaker 1:

No, not mentally, not physically okay, so, um, I do want to talk to you about something yes, okay, so frank of babe. Um, on a personal level, we need to talk because, honestly, it feels like I don't even know who I'm podcasting with anymore what well, you're kind of out here sending like these long, perfect texts, like you're Shakespeare or something, and Newsflash I know you didn't write it Like you're sending me these things that I know you didn't write and it's giving robot, it's giving fake, yeah shit.

Speaker 2:

Are you serious?

Speaker 1:

yeah, just you know, like should I just add chat gpt to the group chat and like cut out the middleman? Like are you even you anymore? Like hello, are you real? Oh, okay, you're still there, you're such a bitch listen, I don't need you like flexing with these like robot words. I need you. I need raw messy like misspelled.

Speaker 1:

That's the franco that I signed up for so you're not judging me I'm not judging you, but like don't play me like that, like don't play us like that I know, I think it's just so much easier to just quickly. You're right, but hey, you've done it to me I have done it to you, but it's because you did it to me. But I want to know are you so busy that you can't take two minutes to like, type something out, or do you like, like, how are you? What is with this chat gpt thing that you're doing?

Speaker 2:

You know what it has gotten so over like. Now you're making me like.

Speaker 1:

Are you breaking out? It's so good. There's like a rash on. What is that? I don't know. Are you okay? I don't know, Wait, what is that?

Speaker 2:

I just like, I just like, literally, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I'm just oh my gosh, wait, what is that?

Speaker 2:

I'm not trying to upset you. Yeah, no, I just you caught me off guard, honestly, because I didn't expect you to talk. I don't, this is shitty. I don't know why. I think it just really was trying to be better and like genuinely, but it's not genuine, it's a fucking robot. It's chat gpt. Um, I can't even.

Speaker 1:

I'm a little bit lost because chat gpt does all you're talking for yes, so now you don't know how to express yourself without the damn robot.

Speaker 2:

Okay, this is where we just we just fucking you nailed it. It's like I literally had to create a script the other day and I'm like I need to judge gpt, I need this. It's not working. Oh my god, what happens when the thing fucking crashes?

Speaker 1:

dude I. Well, when I was using it like a lot, I noticed I'm like gosh, like I'm not using my brain anymore, like it's just doing everything for me, so I'm like not really using it anymore because it was starting to scare me I'm a little bit nervous too, because I have been doing that to friends and it's so obvious. It's like it's not genuine.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm going to have to just say friends, no more chat, gbt, you're done. Give me the misspelled words.

Speaker 1:

Give me the like. I love it when you send me a text message and I don't even know what you're trying to say. You do, yeah, like I miss that.

Speaker 2:

I didn't love it before, but now I miss it, now that I haven't gotten one, now that you haven't got, okay, yeah, all right. So I think there has something to do with dating somebody who's an educator, and I think having him being like what?

Speaker 2:

like I remember even thinking to myself when we were first talking a year ago, I was sending the same text, I was sending misspelled things, just trying to multitask. You know what it is if I'm not really focused, I'm thinking of other things. So when I'm texting you or anybody, I'm like just sending chaotic things and I'm like, uh, she's not even gonna understand it I mean it.

Speaker 1:

I mean I might eat my words. I might eat my words because, yeah, there was. There's been times before chat TPT where you would send me something and I didn't know what the hell you're talking about.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, was it just like run on, run on.

Speaker 1:

No punctuation yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, my brain was thinking that that made sense.

Speaker 1:

I'd be like, okay, I, I just I have to call him because I don't know what this says.

Speaker 2:

So I guess for you, like I do understand a bit, but well, I think my it's getting out of hand wasn't getting across properly sure, yes, like even jonathan, I think, could even bring that up to like wow have you been doing that with him too well? I think he noticed that I've been a lot better with my responses, so like in some ways it's good, but then in other ways it's like it looks fake and it does. Your thoughts are there but, then it's like so enhanced that you're like wait, did I really want to mean that?

Speaker 2:

oh, now I think I want to mean that yeah, oh my gosh, yes, yeah so then you're like you're, you're sold out, like even with you. Um, I don't know like just what were you saying.

Speaker 1:

You were talking to it for, like, as a therapist I was, and I I've actually stopped doing that because I think it started, like you, believe everything it said yeah, and it was basically telling me that I'm always right, which I might be oh it was.

Speaker 2:

It was telling you. I'm sure your husband loved that yeah, he.

Speaker 1:

Well, he was like I'm concerned about this because it's always gonna be like on your side and then I thought for him well, I well, yeah, I kind of does. He used mine Like cause I was like here you ask it some questions and he used mine and he was like, yeah, this is kind of creepy, it freaked him out.

Speaker 2:

Do you think you're just right though? Maybe, I feel like I've always been like the type that's like oh, I'm going to meet in the middle and like you know I feel like I've been kind of a good like balance between you two.

Speaker 1:

And then I did think that you know you were being too hard on them until I went over there and I was like, oh god, she does have a lot of shit to do, yeah but but seriously, like this isn't just about, like you, being fake with the ai, um, like chat gbt actually, chat gbt is actually terrible for the environment and every time you use it it burns insane amounts of electricity what yep? And it sucks up like fresh water just to keep its servers cool and it pumps out carbon like a fleet of cars. So yeah, like your little cute texts, they aren't just shady, they're literally like frying the planet. You're dramatic.

Speaker 2:

You think I want to stop now because of that?

Speaker 1:

No, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I want to stop, though, because I want to make sure that you are heard. I think sometimes, when we get in a group message with like somebody, it feels like I have to just sometimes like you don't have time to organize all that crap, yeah sometimes it is very helpful.

Speaker 2:

I agree, I'm just playing devil's advocate right now because we love doing that I know we do, we definitely do. We like to, just like you know, we like to be a little bit more constructive criticism, like I mean, you know, when you have a best friend, and like they're telling you out, like calling you out on your shit, you know I mean, you do it to me, I'm gonna do it to you I know I used to do it to you more whenever you could handle it I know, I'm like a glass box of emotions.

Speaker 1:

Now, guys, I just can't handle anything I'm emotionally drained I know just like I've been living in a construction zone for god knows how long now I have a bone to pick with you yeah, what I was a little bit like annoyed when you're like, oh, I got goats.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, are you serious you got goats and you decide to not tell me because you're afraid that I'm gonna. I'm like, are you serious you got goats and you decide to not tell me because you're afraid that I'm gonna say to you you can't handle all that well, and you don't care about them, like you're not an animal person but listen, I was like you have so many fucking things on your plate, I'm only gonna get mad that you got goats, because I know as a big brother or as like a best friend, I want the best for you.

Speaker 2:

But you're like, no, I want goats. And it's like, of course, you're going to be overwhelmed. That's a huge responsibility.

Speaker 1:

You know what we have? The little pasture for them.

Speaker 2:

They are like a little herd. Okay, so they cut the grass right, they eat the grass.

Speaker 1:

They're more like little weed whackers. Yeah, they're like weed whackers, but we don't cut it in their pasture and they're a little herd. They just run out there together and come back in at night and they're not, so they're low maintenance they are actually very low maintenance.

Speaker 2:

They're much more low maintenance than a dog oh yeah, okay so I will say that but well then, I'll give you that I mean yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1:

I'm always adding things to my plate that maybe don't make sense, like animals.

Speaker 2:

I know, but you're an animal lover.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, you could live without it. I feel like it's what I always wanted, that's true, so I'm doing it now. Hey, you sold me the house. You can't get mad at me now, this house I know, and it is the perfect place I can finally do what I want I know, thank god.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you make us realize how much we want acreage yeah like I do really feel like that's a very like a safe way to just like I don't know. Like do you feel like when you were well, yeah, you did. When you have your neighbors like literally on top of you, it feels a little like claustrophobic I think that you and I are naturally like.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to have to feel like I'm constantly acting because someone could be watching me, because the real me is like screaming outside, like yelling at the dog to get the f back to the house because it's about to, like you know, run in the street or something. Or the real me is like yelling at my husband to come inside and help me with the kids, because the kid just like did something crazy and like I don't want to have to contain myself around people, I just want to be me I want to be crazy.

Speaker 1:

I don't. I don't want to have to worry that if someone's gonna like call the cops because I'm yelling too much yeah, or you don't want to.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, get in trouble if somebody hears. You guys like making loud noises in the bedroom right, yep, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So not that I'm like yelling like I'm gonna kill you to someone, but like I'm yeah, I'm always yelling outside I know like a crazy person, I know.

Speaker 2:

I wonder if that's just like part of your um childhood. You know, I think my childhood was like my dad was always yelling like yeah, care, he did not care if the neighbors heard him or not yeah now it's a if it's a different ball game, like tell me about the pressure it is to have to go to back to school shop oh my gosh, so much pressure they don't give you anything at the school they gave the craziest list of items I had to purchase for kindergarten. Like how much did you spend?

Speaker 1:

About $100.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, so I'm thinking it was going to be like $400 or something. Well it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

It's like three pencils and a blunt pair of scissors, and like Play-Doh and headphones and it's like half the things. I'm like I would have thought they would have just given them that right, but they don't and like three pencils yeah, three pencils. It's like very specific things and some of it was a little bit like tough to like vague and I'm like trying to figure things out yeah and I don't know it's been a lot.

Speaker 1:

It's been a lot to getting my daughter ready for kindergarten, but we sent her away today. I cried at the bus stop when I saw her get on the bus.

Speaker 2:

That is so cute.

Speaker 1:

Those steps are so big. She like tripped a little bit getting up there and I'm like oh my God, she's so little still.

Speaker 2:

But they picked her up.

Speaker 1:

They picked her up. She's the first one on the oh my gosh and I cried.

Speaker 2:

That's so cool that you cried.

Speaker 1:

I didn't think I was going to, but I did.

Speaker 2:

Well, wait, where do they have to go? Do they have to go to the other neighborhood, that big neighborhood? Okay, so she's the first. Yeah, they go all through there.

Speaker 1:

Because I'm going to do a routine, so I stand at the bus stop and then she gets picked up and then I'm going to walk every day. Oh nice so I saw it going by to go to the school while I was on my walk and that was like 25 minutes after it picked her up. So she is like just on the bus riding around oh my god, I'm like dang, should I just be driving her to school?

Speaker 2:

I know that is kind of funny right it is right, but I wanted to celebrate.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to celebrate you. You haven't mentioned your success.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right, I didn't even want to make a big fuss about it.

Speaker 1:

Let's make a fuss about it. You always do a good job. Share your news.

Speaker 2:

This is a true bestie right here, guys, take notes, take notes for besties. She makes me feel like I should talk about the 20% Club and real estate, so like-.

Speaker 1:

Not even a year in yet. You have not even been doing this for a year.

Speaker 2:

And they said that you have gone 20% up in listings from last year. So it's like it's a big deal for somebody. That's like I have been hustling this whole time. At least I get a little recognition. So they had a panel and I was on it. Now I did feel a little bit like an imposter because I am like not that experienced and they're like, well, of course he's up a year because he had nothing at the beginning of last year. So in some ways it's an accomplishment to get asked to get on the panel. It's an accomplishment to be like you're still in a certain percentile.

Speaker 1:

Yes, like overall.

Speaker 2:

So overall, I think it's like not a lot of people have hit these numbers that have been doing the game for a long time because it has been a rough market. It has been ups and downs with the real estate market. The thing that I love about being part of this, it's giving me that like fuel even more that competitive fuel. Yeah, and like I love executing rushing off to the property, assessing it, getting the design shit that we need to accomplish, getting them prepped for the photography I fucking love it and it is such a weird thing to describe to you who's done it before, as like a coordinator working in an administrative part of the business with your cousin.

Speaker 2:

I am obsessed Like I had no idea. But then you know, you bug your aunt for many years and you're like okay, I want to get involved, I want to get involved. And she's like you don't want to do this shit. But then you're like why do you think I? Okay, I want to get involved, I want to get involved. And she's like you don't want to do this shit. But then you're like why do you think I don't want to do this shit? Because you really have to have like a nest egg to survive.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you saw the struggle at the beginning for me yeah, I know like we didn't think we were going to still be able to record, because I was like running dry and you were buying a brand new house and I mean, like I think when you guys like got involved with it, I looked at you as like, okay, I want her to be my co-host, I want to be with her as like a partner in crime, but I also don't want to like deplete you of like production time and funds, because I really was trying to start my real estate and whatever. Long story short, it's been a good year.

Speaker 1:

Well, and now you have another podcast, which I'm not fond of it. I feel like I'm being cheated on. But go ahead, go ahead, talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, we haven't even launched it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

So you never know.

Speaker 1:

So launching, soon Launching soon launching soon.

Speaker 2:

Now. What are your thoughts? I want to know your real thoughts.

Speaker 1:

Be honest I think it's great. I think the real estate is one of your niches it's important for you. I am just concerned that it's taking time away from like mocktails are messy which it might not be. It might just that might just be like a irrational fear that I have.

Speaker 1:

I just know your time is already so limited yeah we tried to hang out the one day, you and I, and it was like every two seconds you're getting a call or a text about a house. It's like you have no time. Yeah, it's insane. I was starting to get anxious because I'm like, oh my god, he, we can't even talk for two seconds without someone blowing you up about a listing or something. It was just insane.

Speaker 2:

I think, now that I've been able to kind of manage it with a transaction coordinator and even like manage it being proactive on getting things accomplished ahead of time and like working on my laptop with the hotspot and like just doing a lot of things like preemptively, I think when I was with you that one time it was just like a lot of chaos going on and so I mean I don't want to spread myself thin. I I've already talked about this with the other podcast. I said if we're doing this, you're taking the lead to the other co-hosts yeah because I feel like here this is a balancing act.

Speaker 2:

When you're available, you pick up the slack. When I'm available, I pick up the slack, but I have no slack to pick up another one. Unless it's like we're recording, I show up for an hour and a half, send it off to the editor, get the other co-host to really do all the other things that you know not that you don't want to sound like ungrateful. You don't want to like sound like I'm pushing it off onto them. But you're right, like I do not have the time to pick up another thing. It's like I read this book recently. I thought of you.

Speaker 1:

It's called the one tell me about it, because you're like gary keller I'm obsessed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know why. I mean it's not like a great audio book, so I suggest reading it because the audio version is a little like cheesy sounding, like you know when, like it's not the right voice, the narration just feels a little like what is this main like takeaway from it that is really resonating with you?

Speaker 2:

The one is basically by Gary Keller. It's helpful for entrepreneurs, it's helpful for dreamers, it's helpful for people that want to like get the law of attraction to that like success, that like freedom, lifestyle, that business, that talent, job, that that you know that financial status, that you know that place in their life. But they just can't get it because they have a million things that they're trying to do and they're like, oh, I'm going to be like a jack of all trades and I'm never going to be a master of any of them Right Exactly.

Speaker 2:

So like for us is like okay, podcast and motherhood, for me it's podcast and real estate. Now no-transcript.