Mocktails Or Messy

#58: Getting Serious

• Ryan Frankowski & Kelly Mizgorski

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SPEAKER_00:

Hi guys, this is Kelly Mizgorski.

SPEAKER_04:

And Ryan Frankovski.

SPEAKER_00:

This is a last-minute spare the moment episode because we haven't seen each other in a long time.

SPEAKER_04:

It's been about a month.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and we just needed to get back into the studio. And we're both we've both been down lately.

SPEAKER_04:

It's a little seasonal depression. It's also a little bit of I'm struggling. I've post I've posted about it online. I, you know, reached out to you first, then Jonathan, then Michael. I mean, it's just hard.

SPEAKER_00:

And um, nobody wants to see their friends struggle. So it's it's hard. And I I feel like there's not much I can do to help because like I'm struggling in my own way, in my own little world, and everything's fine. I'm okay. But I am worried that you're not okay. So recently my brother got married. You were you officiated the wedding.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Um, I was very grateful to be asked, and I had an amazing time prep preparing like preparing and just I just had a great time like being honored.

SPEAKER_00:

We were grateful to have you there. Everything was going great, and I went to put my son to bed, and I came back, and you had left the venue, you were just completely gone, you didn't say goodbye. I had no idea you were leaving, and you drove two and a half two and a half hours back home. And I just thought, like, what is going on?

SPEAKER_04:

I just think it's hard right now, um knowing like how far I've come with just being completely booze-free, weed-free, and being in that environment, I thought I was like past it, but then I saw how much everybody was having so much fun, and like I don't know if everybody was drinking wine, or I just felt like in that moment, I'm like, why can't I just like we we they part of the venue? The bride and groom were so gracious to have a room for us, and like everybody was staying the night, and it just felt like old times, like the fall was bringing me back to those memories of just being at the cabin with you guys, or just being in a state of like having red wine and cooking a really nice meal and having the fireplace, and it was just it was really hard to be in that environment as soon as the reception started.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Um, and I I kind of had a feeling I I thought it's just strange that you got flighty and you just left. Um, so I figured something wasn't okay. I mean, you didn't ruin the wedding, you didn't make anyone feel weird. But I mean, I let you go because what am I what else was I gonna do? You were already driving away. Um did you not feel like bad that you didn't say goodbye?

SPEAKER_04:

I'm really sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

Or you had to protect yourself and you just had to leave.

SPEAKER_04:

Honestly, I don't even know how to answer that question.

SPEAKER_00:

Because it's like self-preserverance, like that is a thing.

SPEAKER_04:

Self-preservation, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

There it is. Thank you. You're correcting my me this time.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh no, Kelly, I'm just struggling. I feel like I'm like, I can't even like joke about it. It's just like, yeah, I don't know what to do. I know what to do. Just talk about it.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's talk about it. I'm here to listen. I'm not here to judge. I'm not here to pretend that I like I understand entirely because I don't. Um, I'm not, I've never gone through what you're going through right now.

SPEAKER_04:

I think what most people like, they kind of feel like I'm just over-dramatic about this situation, or they feel like, well, you never really had a problem. You don't know that. You you've only seen like the fun version of me, or maybe you've seen the messy version and you kind of chalk it up to, oh, that was just the fluke. Yeah, it you could say that and you could like convince yourself that, like, oh, I can handle a glass of wine, and that's where I was at. I was really scared that I was gonna just like dip back into it in that moment because I knew that I had a place to sleep. I knew that everybody was having a good time, everybody had really good vibes, good energy. And I just like I'm like, I'm catching myself like wanting to taste it and be like, wait, you've never in a year and eight months or a year and a half ever felt like that was something that you wanted to reach for. And I did.

SPEAKER_00:

What do you think is making you suddenly have these thoughts?

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know if it's like the time of year. I don't know if it's because I'm in a relationship where they're like they're able to drink. I don't know if it's because I'm now just like getting past the hump of it all, and now I'm learning to like live in a world with it because I've been just so heavily focused on work and then not a lot of play. So when I go to play, it feels like everything revolves around booze. And that's for me, that's hard. It's hard now more than the beginning.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because your first year of sobriety, you didn't seem to struggle at all. No, I really didn't feel any to care. Like if you were around it, it didn't seem to affect you, but it's now starting to affect you, and you're wanting to like kind of dabble.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's a good word to use.

SPEAKER_00:

And I don't like that you're dealing with this um like struggle right now.

SPEAKER_04:

Thank you. I know that you really always like want the best and you always care about me and check in. And I I don't think I'm a weak. I'm not like gonna like have a fucking drink right now. I mean, right now we have water.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, we are just doing water today, guys. A little bit different than our usual, but we're just doing water. Now, I I just feel like you're a little flighty. It's been hard to even like get together with you. I feel like you're just trying to like run, run away. It's like you're just running from something.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm avoiding it. I'm avoiding that. Like, I guess in some ways, like I can see now why people have to be away from it. I thought I was totally fine.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And then I noticed that like people that don't have mocktails available, you had mocktails at the wedding. I definitely like that. I was into that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I just I don't know what it is, but I also know that like not having us in the studio regularly, not having that connection that we have like weekly. Um I feel like I'm losing a little bit of my best friend because she's taking care of her family.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I feel like I'm losing you because you are no longer an alcoholic, but you're a workaholic. And you're burning yourself out, and then you're thinking about the unthinkable, like which would be the slippery slope of taking a sip of what did you call it before? Like the devil's juice.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, it's like literally, it's just, I mean, for most of us, is like poison.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and you can't let it get a chokehold on you again. Um, you told me something last time I spoke to you that one of the reasons that you really feel strongly that you can never dabble again is because of your safety.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. A lot of times people only know the version of me that was just fun and didn't get messy.

SPEAKER_00:

Which you were fun. You were fun as shit, but you're fun without it.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, and I think that's the hardest part because I'm like, I don't need it, I still have a good time. I think it's just like maybe I miss that feeling that everybody's getting goofy, and I'm like thinking about work, and I'm thinking about I need to like answer this person back, I need to organize this. Like in some ways, like I finally feel like my adult brain is not able to turn off like it used to when you would have a glass of wine at the end of a long work day. My brain is always thinking about what to do next, and it's a good feeling financially, and it's a good feeling knowing that like I'm never going to disappoint a client or I'm never going to not be available 24-7.

SPEAKER_00:

But you're not turning off. You don't have a work-life balance right now that is healthy for you.

SPEAKER_03:

Not really.

SPEAKER_00:

And I've noticed that. I I noticed that starting like a few months ago, and I was a little bit concerned. It felt like couldn't even get through a thought with you because you're checking your like work email, you're checking like your client is calling you. Or like another colleague and like during the day. Couldn't get anywhere with you because it was you were just full throttle with work.

SPEAKER_04:

And I feel like a lot of that was not knowing, like in the beginning, it was like, okay, two clients at a time, then it closed, then another client, and then maybe like three Macs, but like they're all in different intervals, they're not all at the same time. I feel like now, and a lot of times that comes with freelance. Like when you have multiple projects, it's like feast or famine. You're like, okay, I am feasting, I am taking on as much as I can to know that in January it's gonna be slow.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's go back to your safety.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You told me something that I didn't know before. You have a scar on your forehead that um I didn't really notice it before until you kind of mentioned it.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Can you talk about Harry Potter? Like, it's not a um lightning bolt like him. It's it's a fucking indentation. And it's not fucking indentation, it's an indentation.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Um but really scary part about this is like this was just something that happened in 2019, not that long ago. And I was just having a wild Memorial Day weekend with friends in Palm Springs. They rented a house. I dove into a pole drunk, and I skinned this part, my nose, and I'm just like pretending like it's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you get knocked out? Like, did you get a concussion? Or you just like got back up, and I'm sure bleeding everywhere bleeding. And were people like laughing and like trying?

SPEAKER_04:

Just like, oh my god, like come into the kitchen, let's clean you up. And then it was like I was crazy. Then it was like back to drinking. That is wild. And I'm thinking to myself, do I have a death wish to get myself that messy to be able to just like not care about like I'm smart, but when I'm under the influence, I'm dumb as fuck.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Or I'm I'm an idiot. Like, who does that? Like, I know better.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Like, even and and I think that's a slippery slope because you you tend to just like say, Oh, it only happened once a year. I only fell, or I only but like you remember the guy at Penn State in the fraternity house that fell down the stairs. Nobody knew that he fell. He was in the staircase for hours. He he was found the next day dead. Those are the those are the moments that I would get way too messy, and I was fortunate that I had a wingman or a plus one or a wingwoman. I mean, you a lot of the times, me and you would be wild at like in college and like we had each other. But um, that being said, like at that moment at Penn or at Palm Springs in 2019 diving in a pool, that could have killed me.

SPEAKER_00:

It could have, yeah. A lot of people get paralyzed or die because they dive into a pool.

SPEAKER_04:

That would have been worse, being paralyzed, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, to live like that the rest of your life because of a dumb drunken accident.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, these are the moments that you can never forget. This is why you do what you do. This is why you're how many months sober now?

SPEAKER_04:

Uh, it's been over 600 days. So one year, almost nine months. I mean, I think to myself how amazing I feel. So when I get those temptations, I have to abort. And I feel so bad that I did that to you at the wedding. And I'm really sorry. I didn't want to like just leave you hanging like that because I know that me and you rarely get to spend time together. And I just like I don't know what to do. Like, why? Like, why do I feel like this after being so strong? Like, and it's so fucked up because I don't want to get to a place where I'm like so successful financially, or like get to a place that I'm I sound ridiculous saying that, but like that just be like, well, I can fucking reintroduce it again, and then it's the same cycle, it's the same behavior. It slips up on you. Ben Affleck talked about it, how he would get sober for a couple years and then like be like, Well, I can have wine at dinner, like I'm cool. And then you're just like, That's me. I understand his logic. Like, I'm feeling like I can have wine at a wedding. I can I can have like some, but then I I did that in the past. I gave it up and then started back up, I gave it up, it started back up, and it got like you know, progressively worse of binging. And not in like not in like a way that like to society it doesn't seem like I had a problem.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that it's so normalized these days to be a mess. Sometimes people find it entertaining to see someone fucking up their life, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_04:

Or even just being funny and goofy and dumb. Like it's entertaining when people are drunk because you know, we just are like, we don't see that as a struggle, we just see that as like, oh, they're just like letting loose, we're having fun.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I don't know, man. I think that was the week that broke us. That that week I was worried I could feel you starting to struggle. I was worried you wouldn't even make it to the wedding. I know, I know but you promised you'd be there, and I knew I could trust you now at this point where you couldn't trust me in the past to show up all the time. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04:

And I don't know if that had none as much to do with alcohol, but it definitely had a lot to do on my lack of I guess follow-through, my lack of like care. I think I'm on this path, this era of like just want to be the best version of myself.

SPEAKER_00:

You need to protect yourself, it's fine. I am obviously supportive. I don't want to put you in a situation where you need to, where you feel like you need to run away.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I want you to feel safe. But you were having fun, and Michael was having fun, and your husband was having fun, and I just felt like I can't even like get on that level. I don't know why. Like, and I and I think it's weird how like the mocktails in the past worked, and then like it's so easy for people to just be like, you're doing great at work, you're you're you're do officiating, you're you're doing like all these things, like you can like relax and have some wine or have a drink. And I'm like, guys, you don't understand. It's not like that. It's it's not, it's it gets it gets it's ingrained in me that I like then I can just sit back and relax. It's like if I were to hit the Powerball lottery, like multi-millions, I would struggle because then I'd be like, well, financially I'm good and I'm sick, like I'm able to like channel that finances into our businesses, but then I'm like, well, now I hit my number. Like that was my goal. I'd be like, I'm not gonna touch a glass of alcohol until I hit a certain number in my account.

SPEAKER_00:

Listen, I know that you do help support people on their journey, but I want to ask, who is supporting you right now? Because I'm getting this dark feeling that you're walking this path kind of alone, and it kind of hurts my heart. Who's there for you to support you? Who understands you and what you're going through? Because a lot of people like, I can't lie and say that I understand what you're going through because I I don't, but I can see the pain in your eyes.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I mean, I thought it was you and Rose, but really you guys can't relate because you don't have the same issues about it. Like you guys have your own issues, like, don't get it twitched.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, I definitely have issues.

SPEAKER_04:

But I also have this particular thing that is not common with you guys, so you don't understand it. And I can't tell you guys, and I can't restrict you guys to not have it because you guys are not messy in a way that I'm like, have it, I can be around it. But then clearly, right now, I'm so sensitive to it. Yeah, at this stage in my sobriety, I thought I would be past it. So you're right, you're absolutely right, Kelly. Like, this is an aha moment. This is not rehearsed, this is off the cuff. Like, you just spoke to me. I need a sponsor.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And a sponsor is something I I don't, I don't know why we want to make everything super like private, because like there's a lot of people that could benefit from AA, including myself, Alcoholics Anonymous. And I do think that I want to normalize this as like this is not a weakness, this is empowerment to say, I have a problem. I'm not a normie. They say normie is somebody that can have drinks and not be have a problem. I am a person that it does slip into my life, and then it's just like I don't work as hard. I am not, you know, leading a team. I'm not successful, I'm enjoying the weekend, I'm enjoying travel. And maybe to some people that's okay, but I want to be the best version of myself, the highest performer. So with AA, if I go to it, I've done it in LA. I thought it was great. It was like church. I don't want to go to church anymore. Right. But I do want to go to AA.

SPEAKER_00:

So there's a stigma about AA that it can be culty. Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

Or um it's like a weakness, or it's like religion and or religious, and it's like, yes, maybe there's some elements of that in there, but I do feel like I just want to make it acceptable and normal and let's talk about it. Let's not hide the fact that I go or I'm wanting to go because I think I think you need a community right now. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00:

So you think you're gonna go?

SPEAKER_04:

I have to go, I really do. I mean, otherwise I'm gonna just dip back into it. I mean, I say that very cautiously.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's scary to hear you say that.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't well, and that's the thing that makes me so emotional because I'm like, what is your problem? Like, what like is this the problem? You go six months, one year. Like I used to go six months and be fine.

SPEAKER_00:

I know you did, but I was I personally always thought you were doing that to like cut body fat because you were getting ready for like a fitness competition or a photo shoot, or that's what it was, you know, and uh you audition for things and you have to like work your best. Um but maybe you were doing it for other reasons, like subconsciously.

SPEAKER_04:

You're right. When you look back at it, I'm like subconsciously, I liked being in control. Like Miley Cyrus recently was interviewed and she said, I love being sober now because I can be on, like, I can be on a hundred percent of the time. I don't have to take the prep work of maybe if I'm having drinks of like sobering up, or like from like, you know, like THC can be staying in your body for more than one day. So it's like you're a little foggy, and like that can affect her performances, or you know, it's just like in the same way with me, I was like, got this great job, this opportunity as a designer and like a project manager for this company. And like I just took advantage of it because it was like super social and like champagne flowing, like all the time, and I just was so foggy and never really like took it to the next level because I was just like having a jolly happy hours, yeah. Traveling and like drinking and you know, smoking weed and and just having a fucking jolly and looking like a mess in the same time, like all in the same time.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so it's it's tough to see this, um, like as your friend and as someone who genuinely loves you. How can I support you? I mean, I I already told you that I'm not going to be consuming alcohol around you for the like at least while you're struggling. I don't know if this is forever or if it's a season, but I will not be consuming alcohol around you.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe in some weird way, just knowing that it would be nice to like be in environments where there is none of it. And and also I want to respect other people that like I'll be there whenever I can. I'm not here to restrict anyone. If you guys still obviously like want to have fun and drink and smoke and do whatever the fuck you want, I'm not here to tell you what to do, but if I'm invited, if I'm present right now, I can't be around it. And and it's like, I don't want to sound selfish, I just want to be like the flight, like fight or flight. Like, why fight this feeling?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Like I recently went to like a big birthday bash weekend, and everybody was so sweet, so nice into the mocktails, zebra striping, going in and out, have like very supportive. But after the, I think that's my two-day max. Like, if I'm going to be moving forward with like feeling comfortable and not having these like these urges to have a drink or to like smoke some or like to take an edible, it's like I really need to like just be on a 48-hour like window, and then as soon as it's up, be like, I gotta go back to work or back home or in my safe space because I think it overwhelms me.

SPEAKER_00:

I really respect you for setting these boundaries for yourself, and I expect you to follow through on them.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I don't follow through. That's my problem.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I need you to follow through on them. And I need people in your life to respect what you're saying. Yeah, and because I feel like not everybody takes it seriously because they don't understand.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, and I don't really push it. Like you don't, no, recently, like there was like a little friend group like evening and just like playing games after like a long day of like renovation work. I'm like, they asked me, like the friend, they were like, Do you mind if I like have some drinks and be like, you know, like I just want to ask? And I was like, absolutely. And then after it, I was like, gosh, I wish I could be cool with this. And like, so for me, I'm like, I put in my hours and then I flighted. I took off. But I also like did it in a way that wasn't as a as uh abrupt as with you, like driving two hours away home that when I could have stayed there and when I could have said goodbye. I think what I was afraid was you're gonna convince me to stay that evening at the wedding because I just miss you. I missed your husband.

SPEAKER_00:

I was having so much fun with your boy. I was like, holy shit, this is so much fun. So it was such a letdown when you were gone.

SPEAKER_04:

But and he was having a great time with you, and I think that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what you taught me? You taught me let them, let them by Mel Robbins, yeah. So it's like okay, he wanted to go, let him go. Like, who am I to tell somebody else what to do?

SPEAKER_04:

And I'm not gonna take it personal, it's not about me, it's about you, and it really isn't, and I feel like that's one thing that you understand now, but like maybe years ago we both would have taken it personally. Oh, yeah, totally because it's like that's not fair when you don't see them. It's one thing if we're seeing each other regularly, we could let it slide, yeah. But to do that and then not have like that much time, and then it's like we're finally together, and it's like I but you know yourself too. Like as you get older, you want to be in control of your own bed, your you know, your privacy of like a hotel room.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, you want to be able to like just remove yourself. If you know, people are drinking, it's like people don't understand what it's like to be sober whenever you're drinking because they're just like, I'm so fun and smiley and all that. Like, I don't want to like mood flip. I I mean I almost like want to fake it. So maybe this whole year and a half, I've been able to be an actor and fake my you have fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

And and it's fun for me because I'm an actor and it's it's a it's like I'm a salesperson. So it's like maybe I'm just so I'm my batteries are so drained from like working in sales that if it's involving like money, client problem commissions, um, like I said, money commissions, you know what I mean? Like, I think if it's like paying the bill, or if it is like a career, like growth opportunity, I am the I'm ready to put on the face, like we got this. I don't care what kind of scenario. I mean, I even celebrated with a client, they had no idea I had mocktails, they just they're closing and they're buying new, and we did it all so fast, and they were so grateful they wanted to take me out, and they like to have some beverages, some adult beverages, and they were like thinking I was buzzed and funny and goofy because I did not let the I made sure the waitress told, but that's where I'm like, why am I feeling so I feel like I'm gonna let them down if I Tell them I don't drink.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you hear me? I I understand what you're saying. Um yeah, it can be a letdown if you're like, let's go get some drinks, let's go celebrate, and then you're the original ready to get litty cat, and then the other person is like, Oh, I don't drink. Well, then it's like, okay, what's the for me? I'd be like, okay, what's the point? Maybe like I don't want to drink now either. So then it can like, it just changes like what the other person might have had in mind.

SPEAKER_04:

I know. Comment below. Do you guys want to have happy hour if one person's drinking and the other's not? So, like, if me and you go out, I think you used to.

SPEAKER_00:

I used to, but I'm I'm realizing like I'm just more of like because you it didn't bother you, and you would start acting like you wouldn't you were an actor, which is draining as well for you.

SPEAKER_04:

So but maybe I would play off of your funny goofiness in some ways. Like, I think it's hard to put a pin in like exactly how this is caused. I think it's seasonal. I asked chat, GPT, I said, why am I feeling this so far in? And they said the first year can be easier of sobriety because you are just kind of like happy to get away from it. It's a new feeling. You're loving like the progression, you're loving the way your body's changing physically and getting more snatched and being able to eat more like whatever you want because you're not getting those empty calories or empty, like, you know, whatever it is. And then you get to like year two, and it might be harder because I'm in a relationship and they still drink, and they don't have a problem with it, and they are very respectful to me, and they don't actually they said that one of the best qualities about me is they look how strong I am to be in this world and not just dip back into it because they wish that they could be like just in a position of like, I don't need it if other people have it. And it's like they respect me so much that then they're curbing theirs because they're like, Well, if we're just together, we're not drinking.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I think that's how social drinking happens. It's like maybe you weren't gonna have that drink for someone who's not sober, but then you're with someone who is, so then you just do it.

SPEAKER_04:

You're not gonna have wine by yourself if you're married and you're like, Well, I mean, I guess you would if you I think that's why some people that together they just like they either drink less together or they drink even more because it's like that's their identity. Like they on a Friday, you know, maybe they don't want to go out, let's have wine and draw a charcuterie, or let's throw back some of those Miller lights and have some like have some Jameson. Yeah. That's what I miss. I miss that feeling of like connection with people. Now I'm feeling there's not a lot of connection on my end with others when they are drinking because I'm not like able to feel that as much as I used to, like the goofy placebo effect. I need to get back to my placebo.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I want to say that I'm sorry for not checking in. I'm sorry for like not knowing that you were struggling. I I'm not gonna discount your struggle at all. I just um I should have done better and checked in on you. I I thought you were just good.

SPEAKER_03:

I know.

SPEAKER_00:

So check on your sober friends, guys.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, please do. They need your help. We do, all of us. Um, also, you know, if you are struggling with alcohol or substance, please reach out to me, slide into my DMs, ask for help. I know I'm asking for help from my friends, my, you know, boyfriend, my family. I'm being able to like get back and recalibrate and realize like, why I'm doing this. It's not worth an a glass of one of wine one night. It's not worth it. I don't want to go back down that slippery slope and you know, I'm here for you. Kelly's here for you. I am, I'm here for you. So my my sober curious bestie, mindful drinker. We all can come together and still have a good time. And, you know, just remember that you can always just distance yourself from the activity Irish exit. You're not, you're not, it's not a frown upon.

SPEAKER_00:

If somebody's really your friend, they are gonna understand why you had to leave. And I want to thank you, Ryan, for being so vulnerable. This isn't something everyone would feel comfortable talking about. Thank you for being vulnerable. Thank you for for putting yourself out there because in doing that, I think that you're able to help others know that they're not alone.

SPEAKER_03:

I really hope so.

SPEAKER_00:

And I really respect that. Um, we're gonna keep you updated on this journey. Um, I hope that you do go to AA.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm definitely working on that. I want to go. So you hold me accountable. Yes. I need you and I love you, and thank you for always being my bestie.

SPEAKER_00:

Of course, and I will even go with you if I'm welcome. I don't know how that works.

SPEAKER_04:

See, that's what I want. I need us, I need you to come with me.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. I will. Then we can tell you guys how it went.

SPEAKER_04:

I think that it it would probably um getting me all emotional and lightening. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I don't want you to cry either.

SPEAKER_04:

I just I I feel like I couldn't do this without you, without this podcast. I don't think I would be able to be as strong as I am right now. And I think also too being away from it. I don't want to put it all on the heaviness of we have to film or I'm not gonna be sober. But I do think in this weird life that we live on, we were meant to do this. This is our mission. We want to normalize the new happy hour. Social gatherings do not have to be only alcohol and THC, they can also be mocktails or mock it, also can be mocktails or messy. This is Ryan Franco and Kelly Mizgorski. Okay, Miss Missy. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Lovely being back in the studio. This was a heavy one, guys, but we promise we have some fun things coming.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we're gonna be a little bit fun next time. This is this is too heavy.

SPEAKER_00:

But thank you for watching, and we will see you all soon.

SPEAKER_04:

Remember to share and subscribe on YouTube, listen to us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Love you guys.

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Kelly Mizgorski

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Ryan Frankowski

Co-host