Mocktails Or Messy

#60: In the Studio with Derrial Christon

• Ryan Frankowski & Kelly Mizgorski

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SPEAKER_02:

I am so excited to welcome our guests to Mocktails or Messi.

SPEAKER_03:

This is Ryan Frankovsky and Kelly Mizgorski, and today we have Daryl. I said it because thank you for saying my name correctly. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_00:

Because Ryan, who I've known for years, has done different altercations of my name today. Darius, Daryl, Darrell. You might as well just call me D. At this point. Next thing you know, I'm gonna be Derek.

SPEAKER_02:

I am an asshole. Thank you for putting up with my bullshit. Thank you for putting him in his place. It's only because she's here. That's it. Hey, Christone. Christone. Ariel. Try and make that with the last name. Try and get fancy. I mean, I didn't know it was so fucking bougie. Christone. Ariel with the D. Dariel Christone.

SPEAKER_00:

You see how I rolled off of her tongue so easily? We were driving over here, and he's like, yeah, Darius. And I was like, who is Darius? Is it your cousin? Who's Darius? And he said it so as a matter of fact, yeah, you know, Darius, when we pull up, I was like, Perry, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, I gotta ask you truthfully. Am I just like, do I have a speech impediment? Or do you think it's just like I don't like I don't know how to pronounce your name?

SPEAKER_00:

See, that's not fair because if you have a speech impediment, then I'm gonna feel very guilty about what I just said because I don't want to be funny.

SPEAKER_02:

So I mean, and I don't find and she can't offend me. You can't. I think we've known each other for a couple years. You would not be able to offend me yet.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I mean, if I didn't offend you the first time I met you, man, we're good. Oh, we're good. Snaps on that, baby.

SPEAKER_02:

We don't need to go back into that store. We're not going in that tunnel. We had a nice time at the Oaklander and Spirits and Tales for Mocktails. Now, you guys are having the traditional cocktail. What are we drinking, Kelly?

SPEAKER_03:

This is dirty pelican. Uh Ryan and Art's, it's our favorite mixer.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah. And uh Dirty Pelicans based in Jersey. That's what I'm having right now.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, this is dirty pelican.

SPEAKER_02:

And you're mixing that with a little kettle one.

SPEAKER_03:

I am, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you know, I stole that from Michael Rose's cabinet.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, did you? Thank you, Michael Rose.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, thank you, Michael Rose. Yes, yes. You're gonna meet him later.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I can't wait to make Michael Rose and thank you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, he's the man of the hour. You guys have a lot in common.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, it does he does he feel guilty about drinking on a Wednesday?

SPEAKER_02:

He does.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, and then he's gonna be my best friend.

SPEAKER_02:

And he likes cabernet or cabernet, whatever you call it. Cabernet, I love it. So we started with mocktails, now we're getting messy. I'm drinking a cock mock. I'm drinking a mock tail. Yeah, I'm drinking a cocktail, hold the cock.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So that's a thing. There's so many things that could be said with that, right?

SPEAKER_03:

And then I have peer pressured Daryl into having some body on a Wednesday, but you don't normally drink on a Wednesday, do you?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't. So I have this new rule that I don't drink during the week. I only drink on the weekends. Uh, it is uh a choice for various reasons. One, uh I feel better, you know. Yeah. Um I just feel like I was, you know, in this industry, there's lots of parties and events that we go to or just happy hours and hanging out with friends. And I found myself that I was drinking every day at some point. Oh, for sure. And I don't like that. And I didn't like the way I felt felt about that. And then also to You didn't like being foggy or I don't like being foggy. I just don't, you know, it's just you know, I like to work out every day, and then it's you know, you find yourself if you're drinking, you you you're going to the gym makes it a little tough, and then the next morning I always feel a little bit groggy. And also, I'm just gonna be honest, I'm vain, I'm a Leo, I work on camera, and I want to look good. And I've noticed that since I stopped drinking my or during the week, not not drinking, just during the week, uh, that my skin looks better, and I'm liking my abs. So you know, I mean I look good naked now.

SPEAKER_02:

Popping, he's looking for that popping on a friend. So I'll give my number away, you know, during this. So, you know. Can you list it below?

SPEAKER_00:

I'll list it below right here. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03:

Tell everybody what you do. So you are a producer on the bachelor slash bachelorette.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

And but you have like a long list of credentials before that as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, TV journal. Well, my uh what don't you do? I am a T I know. I'm like a man of all trades. Uh uh well in this industry, I feel like it, especially now you gotta have your hands in a little bit of everything. Um, but I'm a TV journalist, TV host. Well, it can be sometimes. You gotta get a little dirty, Ryan. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Um I know.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what? I I love it. As long as he calls me my name correctly. Or actually, I want him to call me my wrong name. Let's just keep it moving.

SPEAKER_02:

You just want to slap me in the face. That's what you want to know.

SPEAKER_00:

Just because you got that long, you know, Tarzan, beautiful hair doesn't mean that you can just make up names, you know. Uh I know I'm a TV journalist and host, um, and also producer, because one thing that I learned very on by mentors, um, uh people like two people in particular. There's a man by the name of John Murray, uh John Murray John Murray. Um, look at me, now I'm messing up names because of you. I made a little extra on there. It's a good idea. Uh John, if you ever watch Sherry Shepherd's Daytime Emmy Award-winning Daytime show, uh John is her EP and her co- uh her business partner, business producer, well, I guess business partner in the show. Um but he has a very similar background. I he came from a very similar background as myself. Like he he's a he was on Good Morning America. Um, you know, he was a journalist, and he, you know, there was a variety of things he did before becoming a producer. And one of the things he told me, he's like, Daryl, you kind of have to have your hands in every piece of this pie. Um, and that's what I've watched him do in his career, and I really look up to him. So that's why I kind of have that variation of different things. And also Kevin Frazier, who is the host and um EP for Entertainment Tonight, he's legendary, been on the show forever. Um, I look up to Kevin. I wanted to emulate emulate my career after him, and he's also another person, like a Ryan Seacrest as well, who he's talented. Super talented, and Kevin has his hands in producing as well as being the phenomenal television personality and um host that he is. He's a natural, he's a natural, but again, you have to have your hands in so many different things. So hence why I have 13 different titles producer, TV host, journalist, clean your carpets.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, you don't do that anymore.

SPEAKER_00:

No, not yet.

unknown:

Not yet.

SPEAKER_02:

Anymore, not yet.

SPEAKER_00:

Not yet. But if I do do it, I'm gonna own that business.

SPEAKER_02:

Of course. Hey, let's buy small businesses, right? I heard that's the wave of the future. Listen to wave of the future. Right.

SPEAKER_03:

So let's leave off where we left off at the Oaklanders. So you were gonna tell us a story about Oprah and Leonardo Caprio.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so yeah, as a TV journalist, uh done red carpets for all the award shows, Golden Globes to the Oscars, BT Awards to, you know, the Emmys. And a lot of people always ask me who is your favorite interviewee or any person you've interviewed? And I always say there's two people. Uh first, um, is gonna be Oprah, because I mean, you know, Oprah is Oprah. And what I love about Oprah is that it was actually at um she was at a premiere for another movie, and she was getting in her truck, her black truck that was taking her away, and she still, as she's getting in the truck, stopped to ask or answer my questions. Um, which shows a lot about who she is as a person, which is amazing. And she she just to me, it just that became one of my favorite interviews because she's Oprah and she doesn't have to stop, and everybody wants to talk to her, and she could have easily just been like, I'm sorry, I'm getting in my I'm out of here. She stopped, made the driver stop, and answered my questions. So that's been one of my favorite moments. My second favorite, which I'm I'm gonna put these together, is Leo DiCaprio. So Leo DiCaprio, and this is why, uh, so it was at the SAG Awards, you know, Leo finally won Best Actor for the Revenant. Um, and I was at the SAG Awards and I was backstage after the red carpets, they bring the media in a lot of times to do the after kind of after red carpet interviews, and they whisk in the the cast in front of maybe 30 journalists. And I was one of the 30 journalists in there um to to ask questions. And when Leo came in, I'm like, Leo, I feel like I I feel like Leo's my boy. Like, I feel like I grew, you know, I grew up with Leo, we're like the same age, you know, and and I've watched his his growth, and and he's such a talented actor. But at that time, TMZ had reported that he was in Sentral Pay, he was like partying, he was DJing with Rihanna, you know, and I was like, this guy, I wanna, I wanna have go to go to a dinner party with Leo DiCaprio. And so Leo comes in, he had just won the best actor for the revenue at the SAG Awards, and and a lot of times they say SAG Awards set up the tone for the Oscar. So if you win the Sag Awards, typically, typically they'll win they're they're in a strong contention to win the Oscar. Leo comes in, I'm in the room, and not to make this about race, but I'm in a room with mostly like older white men, journalists, old school, you know. And I'm sitting with my producer, and you know, everyone's asking him about the revenue and the conditions and the CGI bear, and and Leo is just sort of like fidgety, he's not smiling, he's answering the questions, not giving a lot, you know. And I turned to my producer and I was like, God, I wanna I really want to ask Leo this other question. He's like, What? I was like, I really want to ask him about uh being in Central Pay and being a DJ, and and he's such a music lover, and I know he's a music lover. I want to know this is the first time that he got nominated for best actor, not the first time. He this is the time that he's in contention to to get the Oscar for best actor. He just won it at the SAG Awards. What song would he say describes his mood right now? You know, getting the best actor at the SAG Awards. And and I just, you know, he's a music lover. I want to know that. My my producer's like, you need to ask that question. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to be the guy, I don't want to be the black guy in this room asking like the music question when everyone else is asking these serious, you know, smart journalism questions.

SPEAKER_03:

And he was bored with those questions.

SPEAKER_00:

And he's my producer's like, you gotta do it. And I was terrified to do it. I s the they and they do announcements, they say, Hey, you know, um last, you know, last questions, and my producer hits me in the arm, like, stand up and ask a question. I was like, fuck it, I'll do it. I stand up and I'm like, Leo, hi, I'm Daryl. You know, he's Leo's kind of looking on maybe like three rows in front of him, so it's pretty close. And I'm like, hi, I I as I said, I, you know, I I know that you know you you just won Best Actor for the Revenant. You're you're lining up to win the best actor at the Oscar Awards. And I know everyone's been asking you about the CGI conditions of the bear and all of that from the Revenant, but I said, I I I I know you're a music lover, Leo, and I I just want to know what song would you say best describes your mood right now after winning Best Actor uh at the SAG Awards? And he turns to me. What I felt was like a three-minute pause, but it's probably like three seconds. And he looked at me, he goes, Wow, wow, whoa, whoa, dude, whoa, he's like cursing. He's like, You got me, man. He was like, What's your name? I was like, Derek. He's like, Man, you got me. He's like, Oh man, he's like, Man, that's a great question. And like everyone in the room is looking at me, and I'm staying up. I'm even kind of shocked myself because of the reaction.

SPEAKER_03:

Did you think you fucked up?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I thought that I was about to get kicked out of that room. I thought security room was like, excuse me, sir, we would like to escort you out of this room. And he's like, Wow, wow. He's like, Man, oh man, you got me. And he's like, Shit, you you got me, man. Like, oh man, I don't even know how to answer this question. And so the time was up. So he still hasn't answered my question. And they they take him off the stage and he's like, Hey man, thank you. That's a good question. I'm gonna think about that. And and the the security and the team are like, we got to take him back to his seat. Cool. Everyone's looking at me. Literally, everyone's looking at me, and I'm like, and my producer was like, see, I told you. And I was happy with that. Like, I didn't get my answer, but I was happy with it. The response, the reaction. Swear to you, on everything I I have is 10 minutes later, I'm sitting there. They have moved on to the next set of winners uh who who we're interviewing, and I'm sitting there, and a man in a black suit, I forgot his name, I'm I I can't remember his name. Uh, he walks up to me and he said, Hi. He's like, What's your what's your name? And I said, Daryl. He said, Hi, Daryl. I'm I'm gonna call him Kevin for this purpose. Hi, I'm Kevin, and I'm Leo DiCaprio's publicist. He said, Leo uh had to go back into the award show, but he wanted me to give you an answer to his to the question you asked him. He said, You asked him what song best describes his mood after winning the best actor for The Revenant. He said he wanted me to let you know that it's Bill Weather's a lovely day, and he wanted me to tell you that that's one of the best questions he's ever been asked. Talk about game changer and confidence for me. I mean, first of all, just the thought that he took time to go in the award short and still give me award show and still give me an answer. I I give him his flowers for that because he didn't have to do that. You know, that shows what type of duty is, and the fact that like my question meant something to him. That that meant a lot to me. It made me feel confident in, hey, you know, I can I can do this, you know. And I I had been doing it for years, but you know, sometimes in this industry, you hear so much nos and negativity that it's nice when someone actually acknowledges something that you do that makes you feel a little smart and special. And that's what Leo did for me that day. It made me love him even more. Oh, for sure. Because like he's a real dude, you know, he's a real one.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, and on top of it, I mean, you do get a lot of nos, nos, no's. But like I think what is so impressive about you, your resist your resilience. You know, you definitely have the confidence to keep going and then to get that kind of interview, or even to get the one that you were talking about with Oprah. It's like not a lot of people have that resilience to continue doing what they do and having that poise and that, you know, you're not like aggressive with anybody, you're just kind of moving on.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's it's interesting. You know, I've been having a conversation with a friend of mine the other day who's also a host, uh, who there's been so many people that we started off with, and then to see where it's gone to now. You know, there's only a few of us who who who stayed. And they sometimes they say the last man standing is the last man who wins. And I I think my ego won't let me ever give it up because at this point I've devoted half of my career. You know, what am I gonna do? I can't give up now. You know, I gotta, I see the finish line. I gotta, and whatever that finish line is, because sometimes finish lines aren't exactly what you put in your brain or what you think is gonna look like, but sometimes those are the things that are the better the better things for you. I would say in my career, there's been a lot of things that have been blessings and blessing in disguise that I didn't even know or put on my radar. The Bachelor is one of them, being a producer for that show. I was never, it was never on my radar to be a producer for The Bachelor, but then it came into my life and it's been one of the best blessings I've had in my life, you know? So you just kind of have to go with the punches with them, too. That's so impressive.

SPEAKER_03:

Speaking of which, we have a ton of bachelor questions. So let's get into it. You make me a drink.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Thank you. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

She's very I love that. I love it.

SPEAKER_03:

So is it true that producers sometimes slip fake drinks into people's hands uh to keep them from like blowing the show?

SPEAKER_00:

Um I get similar questions like that a lot. Um, so I like to preference it like this. So I started with the season, I started with the bachelor at season last year, and I and then they promoted me to Grant Ellis, who was the bachelor this year, to his one of his main producers. Um, I never saw any of that, and I know that maybe in the past, like not on this show, but I know in reality TV that has been a something that has been a rumor uh about things, and maybe it does happen on shows. I will say that with with The Bachelor, it's so false from the narrative when I started because this is why we have people, we have team members that actually monitor how many drinks cast members actually partake in. So and they they they they literally like write it down. So if you if we're us three are cast members, we literally are being monitored on how many drinks we can have per per hours per day. Um that was not the case when I went on my seasons that I worked, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, okay. Um and so you're saying peop do people still get ham hammered? I remember back, I mean, I know you weren't a producer at that time, but like do you do you have to pull anyone out for from getting hammered?

SPEAKER_00:

Not the seasons that I was on. Um because but again, the the rules have changed. Yeah. There were shows that got in trouble in the last few years that that that changed the how how the game is. I mean, yeah, you know, um some people's tolerance are different than others. Uh, but I will say that the Batcher's really good at keeping things under undertone.

SPEAKER_03:

So as a producer, do you bribe people with screen time, like if they're gonna bring more drama to the table and things like that?

SPEAKER_00:

I think no, I think that actually, you know, the casting, the casting directors do such a great job of bringing in different personalities and they know what's gonna trigger what.

SPEAKER_03:

They already know like which personalities they're bringing to the table.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know what personalities are gonna mesh and how and how things may fall. Now, you know, the a lot of people ask me about do we create the storylines? We do not create the storylines, it is literally people are who they are as a personality. That makes sense. And and but listen, you you know what personalities work with certain personalities. If I'm if I'm a fire up person and I've already made comments about you and I and then you put me in a room with you know what I mean, like we're gonna see what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03:

Right, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00:

So but there's no there's no uh uh orchestration of that, and it's such a false narrative that I keep people asking me about that all the time.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. Well, we have to talk about Grant Ellis. Yes, you were assigned particularly for him, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

So Grant was on uh the Bachelorette. Uh he was one of the finals with Jen seasoned. Um and Jen is Jen trans.

SPEAKER_02:

She was the left.

SPEAKER_00:

She's the left from San Diego. Yes, love Jen. She's amazing, she's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, and she's also a little kinky.

SPEAKER_00:

She did not hide who she was.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, and maybe that's the better way. Maybe that's the better way to word it.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I mean, I like the word kink, you know, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02:

You're like, I have to be careful what I say.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, I mean, no, I mean I mean, listen, she showed what she showed on TV. You know, I have nothing to do with that. Um Empowerment. Empowerment. I love yes, Jen is definitely an empowerment, you know, she's a strong woman. Um, but yes, so Grant was on that season. Grant's a likable guy.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the thing. He was too likable, so I was like, is he gonna be boring? But he wasn't boring.

SPEAKER_00:

No, so so here, you know, so Grant, so Grant was on the bachelorette, and then I made him the bachelor, and I I got a call from the producers. I'd only worked on a bachelorette for one season, so I got bachelorette for one season. So I was very honored that they asked me uh to come on board for for Grant season to be one of his small producing team. Um it was myself and another the E the head producer, uh, and then we c uh our his handler, which is our our our small team of three. And I got really close to Grant. And Grant, I you know, I love that guy. He's like my brother, literally, especially now. I mean, when you go through the trenches for several months together, you know, you you learn a lot about the person. And what also one of the bus biggest misconceptions that people also ask me is that Grant wasn't there for love, you know, and Grant was there for love. I can 100% say that Grant was on that show to find love. His mom actually recommend put him on, got him on the show. Um, or originally she got him on the bachelorette, which led to him being the bachelor. And Grant definitely was there to find love. And um he wears his heart on his sleeve. I know it was really tough for him, you know, to be the bachelor as well, because, you know, listen, I don't want to make this about race, but also, you know, there is a different, different. I think we he we we all noticed, or he and I noticed, that there was a difference of expectations for him versus a a previous bachelor, like a Joey, you know, like there's just a standard, there are certain things that Grant did that other bachelors had done, but they would call Grant a player, or they would say he was there for the wrong reasons, or he really didn't want love. And you know, that used to like it would do any of us, it would get underneath his skin because it's like he's there for love. And why why are you being held at a different standard, you know? Um, but Grant was such a pleasure to work with. We went through a lot together. He he really did want to find love. Yeah, no, Grant, yeah, Grant was great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So what was it like behind the scenes?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh wow. Um crazy. Uh so for Grant's season, we were we filmed at the regular mansion, um, and then we traveled to we were in Spain, we were in um Scotland, we were in Dominican Republic, uh, and then various cities like New York, um Chicago, um, you know, all across the country. And it was nuts because first of all, it was really interesting when we would go to some of the European cities, how many people recognized Grant and they would stop him, and then I had to be like the security mafia and say, hey, you know, you can't take any pictures of him. And that was tough because Grant's the type of guy who wants to sign everyone's autograph. And I, you know, we I had to be the bad cop, you know, um, or our team had to be the bad cop as well. And but it was crazy. It it's crazy to be on that side of things because watching him have to just go through all those dates and really hone in on who he wants to be his wife. He obviously wants to make the right decision for himself, you know, and none of us can make that decision for him. And so I would I I I always say I couldn't do reality, I couldn't do reality TV. I couldn't be on those shows because to watch your entire life be in front of people and be scrutinized in a lot of ways, because if you pick one person, someone's gonna be mad, you pick that person. If you pick the other person, someone's gonna be mad, you pick that person. So, you know, I used to tell him even like stop reading comments about yourself because it's only gonna get in your head, you know. Um and but it was it was crazy. I mean, we've had we had a lot of fun, but there was also, you know, we're around each other all day long. I would wake up with Grant seeing Grant in the morning, I would go to sleep seeing Grant at night. So you can understand how we would get on each other's nerves sometimes. One of the best stories I have is that we were in Spain and we almost died because our driver was this crazy, crazy, crazy uh Spanish driver. And I we loved her, but she was like going up like the hill, like the when we were in Madrid, and there was like these little roads that were that that were windy roads, and we were going up the road to go to one of the locations for his date, and I'm sitting like it's a two-way two-seat, two-sided van. So I'm facing Grant and uh Steve, who's also handler, uh um in the van, and I see their faces like shock of li fear, like you almost like it's like a ghost appeared in front of them, and I'm like, we're about I literally'm like we're about to die. So basically what happened, we went up the road, and there's this big truck that almost slammed right in right into our our our van. And when it came off the cliff. Literally, literally. And I saw I they we laugh about it now because they said that the my face was was we're about to die, right? This is this is our time. I could feel I could feel the energy of of us about to us about to die. So, you know, but it was it we we had so many crazy fun moments. I mean, you know, there's we're together all the time. So, you know, I really getting to know Grant and just I I didn't envy him because he, you know, he had some tough decisions that he had to make. And but we also got through it together. You grow, you know, you grow tight in that in that yeah in that time period, you know.

SPEAKER_03:

But I'm sure you felt so much pressure being a producer for him.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I mean, the I felt tremendous pressure uh in several regards. Um, for one, you know, this is a major show, and you know, there's a lot of eyeballs on it, and I want to do I wanted to do right by Grant in in any way that I could. And I and also I felt a responsibility as a a black producer to being a producer for the second black bachelor, uh, the first one, Matt James. There was some a lot of controversy that happened with him, and I didn't want that to happen to Grant. So I did take on a lot of the worry and responsibility because I wanted him to be shown in the best light, you know, and you can't please everybody, obviously. You know, it's like it is he is is is this is he black enough? Is it is it is it too black? Is it you know, it's like those things happen. And and I wanted to make sure that he was seen in the best light possible. So I took on just as much to me, just as much stress as his producers probably he was feeling in certain regards, because they're also gonna look back at me and say, you know, I was getting texts and or DMs and things as well saying, like, well, you know, you repres you got to represent him well, make sure that he's you know looking good on TV. So there's a pressure on my side as well to make sure that I'm doing my job to make him look in the best light as possible. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's a huge response.

SPEAKER_00:

Because it is a star, he's the star, and so you do have millions of eyeballs on this guy, and there's millions of eyeballs on this TV series, and you know, yes, it's fun, and I love being a producer, but it's a lot of stress, you know, right.

SPEAKER_02:

And I do think you have this genuine like care. It's not like I think that's why you're in the position you are, because out of a lot of people I met in Laudie Da Land, you are maybe one of five that I remember being there. There are like five people that I've met that are genuinely care, like, and there's a lot because you, you know, people move there for the reason to like build their career up, to be, you know, a star or to be, you know, like you said, like to be like the host, but you know, really the longevity, you have to care for others.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, listen, at the end of the day, I would always try, I always leave with trying to be honest, and I would tell Grant even or other other of my cast cast um members that I produced. Listen, I have to ask you this question. I know that you're not gonna like this question. I need you to answer this question because I I'm gonna make you look in the best light as possible that I can, but I need you to answer this question. I know it's tough, and I I am being a producer now. I'm not just because it was always like, are you my friend or are you my producer? Daryl, are you being my friend or are you being my producer? I'm like, I'm being both, and I'm being real with you. Uh, you know, I need you, but I need you to answer this. But once I a lot of most of the time when I explain that to any cast member, like, hey, yes, I at the end of the day, I am your friend, but yes, I'm I was hired to do this job as well. So I gotta get certain things from you that you may not feel comfortable answering or you don't want to answer, but you gotta do it for me. And most of the time, those cast members would would answer that question for me. In fact, the one of the biggest compliments I got was one of the other producers at the at our After the Rose uh uh rap party uh for the Bachelor of the Season, he said, you know, one of your gifts is that cast members trust you. And he said, That's gonna take you far in this industry because you're not that producer that's just trying to stir up the pot in the drama. You actually do care and they know that. Even if even if you're making them answer things or do things that they don't want to necessarily do, a lot of times they'll do it because they trust you. Because he's like, You have that, they know that you are are are that person. So that was probably one of the biggest compliments I've gotten in this industry because I listen, there's it's not easy being a producer, but I also lead with how would I want to look, how would I want my producer to treat me? And that's kind of how I kind of lead my producing. Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

It was a funny moment, a funny moment.

SPEAKER_00:

A funny moment. Yeah. Um a funny moment that I I hate that wasn't caught on camera. Is so we were uh we were back in LA doing dates for Grant, and he had to go to the restroom. And you know, we were filming so quickly that I didn't realize or kept uh capture the fact that he had toilet tissue lining stuck in his back of his pants. That and he was he filmed the entire thing with the toilet tissue on like in his stuck in the back of his pants. And afterwards, I was like, oh crap, crap, you got you got no pun intended, uh, you got this toilet tissue lining in your pants, and he we laughed so hard. He got he got a kick out of it too, because he literally went through the entire date with this toilet lining on his pants. So that's probably one of my favorite? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like he was I'm so confused how that would happen.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know how you like go to the bathroom really quick and you put the lining around and then you know you get stuck to your leg or whatever, and I guess probably when he pulled up his pants, he piece got stuck there.

SPEAKER_03:

He must be raw dogging it on the toilet. What's that?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, you don't even really sit on the Well, I try to do the toilet paper lining thing, but like it usually flushes down.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I've had it where it actually has stuck to my butt.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, really? Yeah, it sticks to you sometimes.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's I mean, you may have a moist butt.

SPEAKER_03:

On a hot day, like in the back of your eye.

SPEAKER_00:

I have a little hair on my butt, so sometimes the the the moisture from the hair in my butt. So you have a furry butt.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, you have a hairy ass too.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean I I got a little hair. Okay, so I would say that there's been times that I've lined a toilet and that the toilet lining got stuck to my butt.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, okay, that makes sense. All right.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I just quit acting like that don't happen to you. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_02:

I've always liked it. You seem like you have a hairy butt. Okay, yes, but I've never had it come out on the fucking back of my pants.

SPEAKER_03:

As you he's just so perfect. He's so perfect. I know.

SPEAKER_00:

Look at those loafers.

SPEAKER_03:

What is Daryl, what is your advice for future bachelors that want to be a contestant?

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, that's funny. I I I do get that question a lot. Um, I would say a lot of people think that they're ready for that that microscope, microscopic life. Yeah. And everyone is not. Um and you know, yes, it's it on paper, it looks glamorous to be in front of everyone's TV and you're living your your your your real life and uh your best life and your authentic self. But on the flip side of that, you have to be prepared for the other part of that, which is you know, there's a lot of trolls and a lot of people can make comments about you that aren't true, and you have to be able to deal with that. And so, you know, and a lot and also deal with the fame. I mean, you know, as I mentioned, we were in other countries and Grant was being, you know, recognized. We would be here and he's just recognized. You are a face. And you know, as a bachelor, I think that a lot of people aren't prepared for what that comes with. You think you want to be famous. Oh, excuse me. You think you want to be famous, but are you really ready to be famous and and everything that comes along with that? So my advice to someone is like, really think that out. Like, what you know, and are you really prepared for that? I am.

SPEAKER_02:

I feel like you are ready. He was ready yesterday. Okay, that was a joke. That was not a joke.

SPEAKER_00:

That was not a joke. I agree with you. That was not a joke. There is no that was super genuine.

SPEAKER_02:

There is no buy bachelor.

SPEAKER_03:

He was like, I am. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

He was he was just waiting for me to finish what I said, just so he could be like, I am.

unknown:

I am.

SPEAKER_00:

And he shook his hair too, you know. He was just like, I am.

SPEAKER_02:

You guys are so mean to me. This is not your um there's no bi bachelor. Bye-bachelor, but there's no buy bachelor, and there's no woman that a bachelorette that would have and you know, they wouldn't be interested in having a by contestant. Uh I you know what I Colin Underwood was in the closet. Well, he actually never came out until afterwards. Because I don't think he knew.

SPEAKER_00:

I well, I don't I don't know if he did or didn't know. But what what I would say to that is that I think that I I do I have heard rumors that there there has been ideas of toying around with a gay batcher. I don't know if that's true or not, but I I think that it's coming. I think I think that didn't they try or something like I think that well they tried it. Yeah, but I I feel like logos are different that they would be handled differently. Yeah, yeah. You can get away with certain things on logo or do certain things on logo that maybe wouldn't be right for like an ABC network. ABC, you know, but I I feel like I actually feel like it could it could happen in the future of I mean I mean listen, people years ago didn't think there was gonna be a golden bachelor, and look at that's one of the highest rated highest rated, you know, seasons. Or now they're doing golden bachelorette.

SPEAKER_02:

And handsome, yeah. And you know, it really does make you realize like how lucky we are to be able to like health is your new wealth, like long live, like if you take care of yourself and like say you do like have your significant other pass away, god forbid, or you get divorced later in life, like that really shows like how beautiful like the next chapter can be for somebody that might be in their late 50s or 60s, or I don't know what the requirements are for golden. I think it's 50 plus, I believe it's somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like the so for so for the network, there's several uh different showrunners and different teams for different different seasons. So um I haven't had the chance of working on golden yet. I've met several of the golden castmates because they still were a part of you know The Bachelor to a regard. Um, but I listen, first of all, 60s the new 40, 70s the new 50, you know what I mean? Like age is I mean, I just saw today that Cher was on the cover of some magazine with her 36-year-old boyfriend, and she's like in her 70s. So fuck you. Love is love. Let's go. I I I think that people get caught up on formality so much, which is still strange to me when we're in 2025. Um, but you know, love who you love. As long as you're not harming anybody, love who you love. Exactly. It's hard even to find love. Amen. Let's just start with find love. Find love who loves you as much as you love them. Cheers to that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, cheers. I know you said Grant like 100% was looking for love. Do you think everybody goes there looking for love?

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that some people go looking for fame, some possibly, and I think that some think they're looking for love. Um, I mean, here's why I say that it it would be tough for me um to go on any type of reality show that's like that, is because I always say that like if you're on these shows, um, and this has nothing to do with the bachelor, this is just in general. If you're on these shows looking for love, it's easy to fall in love when you're in these exotic locations and everyone's catering to you, and you, you know, you are, you know, you're you're dining the best, and you're you know, your your makeup is perfect and you're looking perfect. But what about what happens when you have your first argument or when you wake up next to the person their breath stinks?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Stank, you know, breath stinks.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Or you realize that's what your viewpoint is about that. You know what I mean? We that that's why for me it would be tough to go on these shows because I'm like, I you can I can see how you get lost and you think that you're in love, and then reality sets in, you know. Um, and that that would be tough for me.

SPEAKER_02:

Honest to God, I do feel like whenever you do go on these like travels, like if you've ever dated somebody and it's like they're like long distance and you just like are always meeting up in a like a nice location, you kind of get like this delusion that it's like, oh, this I love them, or I'm like really interested. And then and then when you actually live together, yeah, like the olden days when it I mean you didn't move in with your husband until you guys got married. So, like, in some ways that's an adjustment.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, it definitely was, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because like I feel like you really didn't know who he was until you lived with him.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, listen, I tell everyone you gotta test that sauce before you sign up for it. I I envy you because I don't think I could ever do that. I need to see what you're like on a day-to-day before I move in with you.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree now. It's just like I think they ever should have sex before. I was 22. I didn't know anything.

SPEAKER_03:

And it clearly worked out for you. It did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And ours were on fantasy trips too. Yeah, pretty much. Like they were just vacation because he lived away. So they were dating long distances. Yeah, yeah. So it was kind of like The Bachelor.

SPEAKER_00:

I if I if I had a child or even uh or anyone asked me my advice, I would say have sex, um, live together.

SPEAKER_02:

What if you're Catholic?

SPEAKER_00:

There's other ways to figure out you test the car before you drive it.

SPEAKER_03:

Test it a little bit.

SPEAKER_00:

There's test driving. There's there's certain other things that you could do to test the the driving abilities to see if the driving abilities are are compatible with yours. Yeah, intimacy. Intimacy.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe like a measuring stick.

SPEAKER_03:

Get out the measuring tape.

SPEAKER_00:

Get out the measuring tape uh and stick. And you know, uh, I I think that you should test the water. I think they go, I just think that it would be really tough, especially now, to go into it with not living with someone or know like knowing just how they how they are day to day. How do how is their hygiene? How do they clean the kitchen? You know, it's little things like how you know what time of the do your sleeping patterns match? You know, I mean it's like so many simple things, you know, like it's little things. Um, so I envy you for being able to do that. But that's what I would I got lucky. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Last bachelor question How do you like working with Jesse Palmer?

SPEAKER_00:

Jesse is the epitome of professionalism. So I also looked at Jesse in a different lens because I'm a host myself, and a lot like I'm one of the very few that are hosts and journalists who are working on that show. I was very lucky and blessed that the bachelor brought me on. Um as also since I was a TV host, um, or am a TV host. Uh Jesse, you know, to me, like Jesse's Jesse's job is a job I would love to have because Jesse comes in, he's always prepared. He gets you know, but it's like also for a season, so he can do his other things. You know, he does the Saturday morning football and then he comes on and it comes in and gives advice to uh the bachelor, bachelorette. You know, I think he has a great job because of the fact that he is able to come in, come out, still do his thing, uh, you know, go to these exotic locations and then go back to his sports, you know, or whatever else, other things he wants to do. I know this year, even while we were filming The Bachelor, he or the the uh the After the Rose show, he was doing uh the red carpet for the Oscars and balancing both. Like he's such a professional and you know, he was a bachelor, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Jesse was a bachelor at one point. So he comes with the knowledge of knowing what that's like. Um, I would love to have his job one day. You know, like a job like his. I don't want you know, I would I'm I'm not trying to take your job, Jesse. That's what I'm saying. But you know, you would do great co-host Jesse. You you work with me now, Jesse. I'm just saying, I would love to do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, and you are so right because I remember they had some of the um like the girls or contestants like trying to like kind of slide in there as hosts. Yeah. Like just like a little bit like of a stint. And I was just like, oh, come on, get out of here. Listen, everybody, every I was like, I love you girls.

SPEAKER_00:

Everyone thinks they can host, okay? Everyone thinks that everyone thinks they're they are hosts, everyone thinks they're personality. You know, I know that a lot of brands and networks have hired, you know, social media influencers to be hosts, and sometimes it hasn't worked out because you still have to have a skill. Just because you can talk doesn't mean that you can be a host.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, and like you said, like you actually formally trained into be hosting.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, listen, you also can't be robotic and just train and not have a personality either. No, it's a good thing. And I had to find the balance of that. Like I said uh when we were talking before, is like I initially felt like I needed to be a certain way and uh my real personality wasn't coming out. Yes. Now I'm in a place of after all these years, either you take me or you leave me. You know, I am who I am. Yes, I talk proper. I used to get so upset when people like, oh, you talk proper. Yeah, you're the I'm like, listen, I'm still black as shit, so don't get it twisted. You know, like I, you know down.

SPEAKER_02:

I can throw down.

SPEAKER_00:

Come at me. I'm ready. Okay. So bring it. Bring it. Yeah, I'll talk proper, I'll cuss you out and be proper at the same time.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. A fucking man. I mean, I think that's what I like about you. You do have two different sides, but they blend between the two. Like you're showing more your personality now that you've become, I don't know, a little bit older, a little bit more experienced. I mean, aren't you? Didn't you like 39? Aren't you like celebrating 39? 20 forever 21, baby.

SPEAKER_00:

Forever 21. No, actually. I think I would be forever. What would I be forever? 34. I like a 35.

SPEAKER_02:

35, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Halfway to 70. You're close enough to 40, but you're still close enough to 25.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, and I think you can be president at that age. Yes.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I think 28. I'd stay 28 forever.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, make 28. Why 28?

SPEAKER_03:

I just felt like I looked my best at 28.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, that's fair. She's so you look pretty great now, so I don't know. I know.

SPEAKER_03:

Thanks. It's the Botox.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, but hey, I I I would definitely do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Have you ever dabbled with a little bit of injectables?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh, I did Botox one time, but it was be I so I host a show that's on CBS called Destination LA. And so the show is basically you on there. I love that show because I get to really show my personality.

SPEAKER_02:

You need to like wear some pretty cool outfits.

SPEAKER_00:

Cool outfits, and then also the show is based. I'm kind of like your your tour guide for cool things to do in Southern California.

SPEAKER_03:

Where'd you get the Botox?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh it was uh a person by the name of Dr. Lynn. He is in he has office in Beverly Hills and El Monte. Um so Dr. Lynn I'm giving you your your flowers and your shout out.

SPEAKER_02:

Is this Dr. Len Horstein?

SPEAKER_00:

No, he's his name is Dr. Dr. Lynn. Just Dr. Lynn. Uh um uh he is he gave me my first Botox injection because it was for the show. And so he asked me, he was like, Would you ever do this on you know live? And I was like, you know what? If I'm gonna commit, let's try it. I I was nervous. Yeah. So I did it. He did it in my, I had like a little bit of like I smile out. Like the crow's feet. Crow's feet. He did it, and I was like, oh damn, this is I could see how people get addicted to that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, you don't even have any though.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, look well I do, I so I have some really great products that you know that I I'm all about. I am about I'm a products guy.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I try different things. I every night I'm putting my my eye stuff on. I got my moisturizer. Look, I got excited, I'm hitting the mic. Talking about my moisturizer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not the I'm a product guy. You gotta take care of your skin, you know? And um there's there's several you know, skin care lines that I indulge in that I you know keep it, keep it tight, trying to keep it tight. But I would I would get in uh Botox when it on if I need it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, it's good. I did it on my forehead. There's a little line on my forehead. I'm like, that's what I had, and I but mine was worse than yours, so I was like, uh-uh. I'm not having this.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm like, let me, you know, maybe.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I feel like that looks good on a man, like the the lines, but it's that's what they say.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but you know that's what they say. That's what they say. It does.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what they say, it does.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, Miraud, uh M-U-R-A-D has amazing products that I use.

SPEAKER_03:

I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you got a promo code? Uh I don't have a promo code, but you know, just look to me.

SPEAKER_02:

We'll maybe reach out on it.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe reach out to them. I love their products very much. Um yeah, there's there you there's several skincare options out there right now that can add and enhance your prelong things. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Are you single?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh she went from the Botox to are you single? Yeah. Um I am I was in a 10-year relationship. Oh my god. No, sorry. It was longer, it was really longer than that overall. 10 years. Holy shit. Yeah, and uh, we we broke up and we broke up five years ago now.

SPEAKER_03:

Were you married or just or dating?

SPEAKER_00:

Basically, I mean the funny thing is we were we were more married than some of our married friends. We actually lasted longer than a lot of our married friends.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, but it just wasn't, you know, at least you have to worry about messy paperwork. Yeah, no messy paperwork. Okay. Now I am I am very much dating and uh enjoying dating and safe sex.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, it's very important.

SPEAKER_02:

That's important.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Now when you say safe sex, you say like condoms or what?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, you yes, yeah, that that uh or yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Or going to the clinic to test each other before.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, those things.

SPEAKER_02:

I like safe sex. I love a safe sex, yeah. Yeah, I'm very like, I used to be like kind of like a Samantha Jones. Oh, and now I'm feeling like more like Charlotte. Okay. Just because I I feel like, you know, that whole like you ever go out with somebody and you're like, wow, they check all the boxes, like this could be monogamy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And then you're like, okay, so this is like kind of what you like strive for. But then there's so many couples out there, especially in LA, that were like, I we gotta have a threesome, or we gotta there are so many sex swinger clubs and and and parties and mansion parties.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm like, oh my god, am I what I'm clutching my pearls? I'm like, oh my god, like I didn't even know I'm like, oh my god, am I prude? I didn't know this was going on.

SPEAKER_02:

Dude, that is even happening in Pittsburgh. Oh yeah. There are curated events. Like you to make sure that you're not a fucking weirdo. Yeah. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna miss out on my like wild days of living in New York and LA. I come back here and I'm like, wait, what? There's a curated event? Yeah, there's a cat. I told her about it and she was like, sign me up.

SPEAKER_03:

If I was single.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, see, that's the thing. She's very traditional. They went the Catholic route. I mean, I grew up Catholic too.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I grew up Catholic, but I did not get married in a Catholic church.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, here's the thing. I'm intrigued by it because I've never, I I I I would admit if I've gone, I've never gone. I want to go, but I heard that you can't go and just watch. I like to go and just watch. I don't I I would like to just go and watch for the first time and just voyeur? 100%. Okay, good. So I would like to go watch and then decide from there.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so you're a voyeur, I'm an exhibitionist. What are you?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm normal.

SPEAKER_02:

She's calling us weirdos. You did. Are you seriously calling us weirdos? I don't like it. I don't know. What does that mean, normal? What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03:

I'd be more of a voyeur. I would want to watch.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I just want to see I want to see what's going on.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know. I think I have two personalities.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, she's like an extroverted.

SPEAKER_03:

I I am.

SPEAKER_02:

Are you a Gemini? Leo.

SPEAKER_00:

But the Lemon tend to have several personalities.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I'd probably say I'm a foyer, but then I'd be jumping in and like, who knows?

SPEAKER_00:

I was hanging out with someone who's a Gemini, and I'd be jumping. I said we had we had a whole conversation about something like a week before, and they were like, What are you talking about? I'm like, what do you mean? We had a whole conversation. It was the Gemini. It was a they're like, oh, last Tuesday, oh, I was a different person.

SPEAKER_03:

I try to not be that.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm like, wait, you were a different person last Tuesday? What? Yeah, so I feel like I only know her as one person because I'm like, oh, she's just Kelly and Mary Ellen. Like, there's two. And like Mary Ellen is like. Oh, so you do have two names. It's alter ego. Yeah. So I feel like I know.

SPEAKER_00:

So you're Sasha Fierce versus Beyonce. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Do you have the Darius? Darius. Darius. Darius. You haven't gotten that name yet. Oh, wait, did you? So you did call him the right name.

SPEAKER_02:

You did.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what you're right. You did call him. You sure didn't.

SPEAKER_02:

He was saying, what were you saying?

SPEAKER_00:

You were like saying something about So I was at the we have a mutual friend. We were at this party. And so this is this so this is my messy part. So this this is my messy day.

SPEAKER_02:

This was your messy day because you it was 2020.

SPEAKER_00:

It was 2020, and we COVID was rap rampant, and my our friend did a party, and I drank because I was so nervous about being around people that I I let vodka control me that day. And so our friend of his boyfriend.

SPEAKER_02:

His boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm in the kitchen minding my business. Actually, I was just broken up with my girlfriend. Uh and I'm in the kitchen.

SPEAKER_02:

That was the 10-year one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I'm in the kitchen, and his boyfriend accused, he and I were just talking, like just I don't even know what we were talking about. And his boyfriend. I was like, where were we? Um clearly not, because I still remember the moment. But um and his boyfriend accused us of of of something going on, and I was like, oh no, no, no, not at all. I was like, in fact, it's probably you should look at him and the other guy over there, and it was our friend who was throwing a party, and then things just got really messy after that. I shouldn't have said it. Stirred the pot. I stirred the pot on accident. You've stirred the pot a couple of things.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, you know, stirring a pot sometimes is a little fun. And I do like it. I mean, I like it with for fun like for fun if it's gonna be fun. I don't want to, I don't want bad I don't have bad intentions for well, I don't have bad intentions for stirring a pot. I'm not an evil stir to pot. No, I'm uh it's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02:

You're just like trying to crack a little bit of shock value.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, like funny. Yeah, and that particular day, because that was my messy day, it was you know, it was the vodka. I let the vodka stir that pie.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. And I even have to admit, like Darius was in full effect. Darius was in full effect, and I met Darius for the first time, and I was like, Which one do you like more?

SPEAKER_00:

Darius or Dariel?

SPEAKER_02:

I think I like Darius.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm kidding. I'm like, I was hoping you would say 50-50. I'm like in this version. Hey, the the the sober mock tailer in me, like really likes like this kind of person because I didn't get to connect with you a lot because living in LA, it was all about a party going here, going there. Like you said, I felt like I was working and it was like champagne every night. Yeah, because it was like part of the job, it was open bar, it was like you entertain clients that way. You're it's expensed, and then I felt like I was like so clouded after my time there. I'm like, I gotta get completely sober.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And it's definitely been eye-opening and laser focused.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I mean, uh, you know, I want to get to I I say now that I drink on the weekends, but I want to get to the place where like maybe I don't drink at all for uh, you know, my mom would be very happy about it. My mom thinks I'm raging every night, and you know, yeah, but your mom never drank. My mom never drank. So literally, I I love you, mom, because you're gonna you're you're listening. But um, you know, if I have one glass of water, we love you. My mom is ready to literally commit me to AA.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, her mom's the same way.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but you know, they're just she doesn't realize I'm a humble, uh, wholesome, nice young gentleman who drinks water most of the time. Right.

SPEAKER_02:

You're a weekend warrior.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't even buy I don't even buy sodas for the house.

SPEAKER_02:

No, you're all about water.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm a weekend warrior, though. Yes, Darius comes out on the weekends, and and you know what?

SPEAKER_02:

You guys have something in common. You both both are laser focused when you need to be. You have two kids, you got a podcast, you got a husband, you got a whole farm to take care of. She has goats and chickens. Oh wow. So she's got a lot on her plate, too. Yeah, don't get it twisted. This bitch ain't just some housekeeper.

SPEAKER_00:

I I I mean, she seems like she has multi-facets. What was that face?

SPEAKER_03:

I kind of am just a housekeeper. He was gonna just boost you up.

SPEAKER_02:

He was uplifting you. I saw what we were going with. I was actually she's giving you a compliment.

SPEAKER_03:

Whatever. I'm noticing your socks, Daryl. Um I see Scream.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. So tell us if we did that. Screamy creamy. Um, I am a huge, huge horror fan. By the way, that was a great. I love that look. As a host, that was I'm gonna give you like eight plus on that. That was a nice natural transition, girl. You better work up this. Thank you. You better know your uh transitions.

SPEAKER_02:

She's ready.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I am a huge horror fan. Um, I mean, I hope I'm not scaring any listeners, but I do like to go to bed to horror movies. It relaxes me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh, and also dateline, um, you know, murder. Uh it's a little odd for it.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it.

SPEAKER_00:

That's my kink. Yeah, I love it. My kink, my quirk kink. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I sometimes like to have sex with horror movies in the background.

SPEAKER_00:

See, I didn't I didn't see all that. I don't see all that.

SPEAKER_03:

I didn't say that.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't say that. No. This is not only fans, Ryan. You know, do you have the, you know, are there only fans?

SPEAKER_02:

Yo, we genuinely like it.

SPEAKER_03:

Thank you for picking up with me.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, okay. I genuinely like it. Just having sex while you are have a mask on or during horror movies? Oh, horror movies in the background on the TV. Okay, maybe. I mean, listen, you know what? I'll never say never. Okay. I do like horror movies, so maybe I'll try it. You know, who knows? Maybe it'll be something happy. But you find it relaxing. I find it relaxing, and so I'm I'm I love horror. I I mean, I have so many. I'm like the new I Know What You Did Last Summer is coming out this Friday. I can't wait. The first original with Jennifer Love.

SPEAKER_02:

And we'll go to the movies.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh unfortunately, I have a a birthday party to go to, which I can talk about, but uh um, but I we should go to the I want to go.

SPEAKER_02:

Let's go. Maybe, you know, maybe I'll start. We'll take the PJ to the birthday.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, that's perfect. I love it. Okay, let's do it. Um, but I I'm a huge horror fan, and I actually am working on a horror podcast. Uh you know, we're still we're still at the very developing stages, but with one of my friends who's an actress. Um can we give a shout out? Tracy Toms.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, is that Emily from The Devil Wears Product Best Friend?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, and she is revamping her role in Devil Wears Product Part two. So shout out to Tracy Toms.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh my god, Tracy Toms. Oh, I love her.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, she's amazing.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh you have a bunch of posts with her in your Insta. She she's magical.

SPEAKER_00:

She is one of the most talented people that I know. Um, she throws these annual parties at her house. She just had one for 4th of July, and it always turns into a karaoke party. So earlier, when you were asking me if I sing, I'm like, oh no, no, no. I'm not, I I sing at certain places. I think I have a good voice. I won't sing at her parties because everyone there is like Broadway stars who are singing. She sang uh uh Journey um uh just a small town boy. Oh you know, and oh wait, give me a little of that. No, no, I don't I don't want to do anything that Tracy's doing because she crushed it. She I brought a friend there and she was she just just like crushed it. She was so dope. And you know, she's I'm I'm she's she and I are working on the concept of the podcast.

SPEAKER_03:

You have like a dark, scary, spooky voice that you're gonna talk in, or do you just talk in this voice during sex or like a dog? Well, now that you mentioned that. No, um for the pod. For the podcast. Do you think you'll talk in like a scary voice?

SPEAKER_00:

I like this naughty dar. You know, I like to keep it you know behind closed doors. Okay, Mr. Bachelor. What do they say? What do they say? Uh business in the streets and Pludger in the Sheets. Wait, what is it for me? Freak in the sheets? Freak in the sheets.

SPEAKER_03:

Wait, what Lady on the streets?

SPEAKER_00:

Freaking the man, man, I don't know. I don't remember the statement.

SPEAKER_03:

It's a freak in the sheets.

SPEAKER_00:

For any of you listeners, please uh you know, tweet or text, let us know.

SPEAKER_02:

Or in the streets, lady in the sheets.

unknown:

R.

SPEAKER_02:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

Text us and let us know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, can you guys please like comment below?

SPEAKER_00:

Look at look at me giving you your um your your plug. Thank you for plugging you know the plug. Yeah, please comment below.

SPEAKER_02:

What is that saying?

SPEAKER_00:

Wait, lady, I know it was lady in the streets. Lady in the street, but lady in the streets doesn't sound good. To me, that sounds bad. Lady Well no, lady in the streets, she she walks with Oh a lady in the yeah, but lady in the streets also could sound something weird too. Well, she's not like with like a man in the streets, like sounds weird, like man in the streets, man of the streets.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, she's walking down Soho and like Broadway Lafayette. She's walking real co professional, she's got her like blazer on, she's a lady in the street. Okay, okay, well, we'll go with that.

SPEAKER_00:

But whatever that male version is, that's what I was trying to get. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I was trying to give.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, trying to give it.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean with a dash of trash.

SPEAKER_00:

I definitely am class with a dash of trash, sure. Because you can throw down and get messy. I know how to I know how to work all the rooms. Yeah. So I will say one of my skill sets is being able to work all the rooms. So even when I was in high school or in like grade school, like I was I was Homecoming King and of course you were uh humble bride from like 800 years ago. But uh when I was homecoming king, you're 34, shut the fuck up. But when people no, but the reason I was told I got homecoming king is because I was able to maneuver through everyone. Like be I was cool with everybody. Yeah, I was cool with the jocks, the band members, political people, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_02:

So well, Dario, one last question.

SPEAKER_00:

Now I'm Dario. I know, I know. Now you now you now you're uh you know British saying my name. What's going on? Dario!

SPEAKER_02:

Dariel, Dario, Dario.

SPEAKER_03:

Daryl, thank you for being here with us today.

SPEAKER_02:

Dario, we have one last question. What question do you have for us? Ooh. Wow. Turn the spotlight, baby. Um it can be anything. It could be out of pocket, it could be inappropriate, it could be um really digging deep. Like we want to be vulnerable with you. We really feel like we can open up with you.

SPEAKER_00:

What's the messiest thing you've d done in the last six months where you regretted it?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh gosh. I mean, I know I'm messy when it comes to like animals, getting animals and stuff, and Well, like I brought home a goat when my husband was gone so that I could start my herd. And then because once you have one goat, you have to have more. They have to have friends. So then it spiraled. Now I have four goats.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm sorry by messy. I mean where not messy physically, messy mentally.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00:

Where you're like, oh, I regret that idea. Or said that. I've definitely like or or started that fight.

SPEAKER_03:

I've started fights with family members. I'll just say that.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, she gets a little messy. Yeah. She gets out of pocket. But you know what? I think you are, it's because she's the eldest and like she can kind of like take that role. Yeah. You know, you're in charge.

SPEAKER_03:

What about you? You get messy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. It's the messiest thing. You know what? The messiest thing that I really don't like about myself, I tell these like little white lies, and then like I poke the bear, and then it's like, why did I do that? Like, I have to be, I'm grown, or I should be grown. And like I do, like, you know, those people that are just so easy to like fuck with. Like kind of what you were talking about in 2020. Like, I don't think you're doing that on the regular. No. I seem to always kind of get myself into that because you know, whenever you're around people that just like you have to fuck with them. Yeah. Because you just are like, that's the only way to handle them. I mean, there's a couple people that I still do that to, but yeah. So I both are close friends.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. So I'm doing it with people that can't clearly take it or handle it. Okay. So I gotta stop. Okay. Or just cut them out. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right. Thanks for listening and watching to MockTales or Messi. This is Ryan Frankovsky and Kelly Mizgorski. We hope you have a blessed evening and enjoy your week. Hopefully, there's a little bit of a debauchery weekend coming soon. And you are just, you know, one step at a time. Put one foot in front of the other and we'll make sure that you get there. You know, call us, DM us, give us a shout out. I'd love to help you. We got our guest back in the studio. Dario.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey everybody. I'm Daryl Kristen and you're watching Mocktails or Messi.

SPEAKER_02:

Woohoo! Let's go. Thank you guys for watching Mocktails or Messi. This is Ryan Frankowski and Kelly Mizgorski.

SPEAKER_03:

Thank you, Darriel. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_02:

You're the best.

unknown:

Okay, we'll get

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