#63: Stop Playing Dress Up, Dress Like a Badass.

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Meet The Badass Stylist

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So this is the badass styling. We are lit. We are. Okay. We'll start off right now. This is Ryan going around F Frankowski and Julie Shields. This is the badass stylist of Pittsburgh. I know that she doesn't sound like she's a Yinzer or a Pittsburgher, but she, I'm from the north side. I'm from the north side. Okay. For 30 years. Oh, fuck. She's unfiltered today, guys. Sorry. Yeah. No, no, no. I want the fucks. Okay. I miss the fucks because everybody's been trying to taper it down. Oh, we we're not tapering. I think it's, it's unfiltered with Julie Shields. Yeah. Don't, I don't do tapering. I love that. But you do taper pants in custom suits. No, personally, I have a pea for that. True. I have people for That's okay. That's right. You are a little bougie. North slider. Yeah. Don't do it by myself. I've been a northsider for almost 20 years. 20 years? Mm-hmm. Oh my God. Okay, so yeah. When I said 30, I was just like exaggerating, like you weren't born here. Shocking, right? God, no. What you, God no. What are you saying? Are you, you want the, you want the two minute version or the 32 minute version? I want the 32 minute version, but I will interject. Oh, but you want it in two minutes. I mean, you know what those two minute guys are? Yeah. it's a whole nother podcast. I am. I met a guy from Ohio. Oh God bless. I was, I, why the fuck does everybody say that? I just sounds boring. I swear to God. And the Ohio sounds boring. 30 year. Well, we were married. I'm divorced now, but we were married for, I don't know, like 20 years maybe. Cheers to young divorces. Oh, okay. I wasn't that young tin. I mean, we're bothy young, super trendy. How do you drink it? At this golden cup? Oh yeah. Nothing fully com composable recycle. Ocean friendly ghost coffee. My lips. I didn't mean to interrupt you. I'm so sorry. You could tell. I feel like that's gonna happen a lot. Yeah. Yeah. You could tell me to fuck off once I get to my groove. I'm just gonna tell you, Sean. Okay. Please do. Yeah, so there was, I. Yeah, so I met a boy from Ohio and everybody's reaction is, oh, I got Ohio. No offense to Ohio, but, Stepford wives. And so we met in Scotland. I came briefly to Ohio and was like, oh, this isn't Vegas. This is not my interpretation of America 30 years ago. And long story short, we met, we had a long term, a long distance relationship. I moved here like within a year, and then we got married within a 11 months of us actually meeting. And then we got the hell outta Dodge and went to London. Oh, that sounds magical. Yeah. And that's one of my favorites. Yeah, he wanted to play music. I didn't, I didn't wanna be in Stevenville, Ohio. God, I shouldn't have even named it. Can we delete that? We can edit that out. It's not live just Ohio. Just like I'm surprised you didn't be in Ohio. My brain to my mouth, what comes outta me is always interesting. Anyway. So, we went to London, couple of years in, turned into seven. And then Evan, my oldest, was actually born in London. So he's an English citizen. Technically he's English. Mm. Which is not a, not a good thing when you're mom's Scottish, but it's fine. I we're getting to that. I know, I've heard that they don't like each other. I would say the English Scottish thing is like Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Oh yeah. Like the mistake on the lake verse, the three rivers, which I don't know what Pittsburgh is known for. That's negative because it's so positive here. Wow. Okay. I'm kidding. Love it in a bubble much. Jesus. Listen, I left for New York and LA and I never looked back. And then I looked back and now you're back on it. Yeah. And then you glanced. That was all it took. Oh yeah. I dammit, I glanced here. It's like they like each other. I get an idea of like, they kinda like each other. There's obviously the football rival and stuff like that. Yes. But they're friends in Scotland and London and Scotland and England. So you have like England, great Britain. So you have Scotland, England, Ireland, and Wales. And you guys are Euros, Scotland? No, we're still attached to the United Kingdom lot. See that's the dumb Pittsburgh in me. I'm sorry. No, it's fine. We've tried to exit several times because you want to be Euro. I don't know what they wanna be. Okay. They don't know what they wanna be. They lowered the voting age to 16. Is that a good thing? No, it's like lowering the drinking age to 16. It's 18. It doesn't need to be any lower. Yeah. And so they lowered the the voting age and you didn't even have to live in the country to vote. So I think, I don't think I could vote.'cause I'd been out of it for more than enough time. Did you get your citizenship here? No. Okay. Let's not talk about, yeah, we won't. I mean, you've been married to an American, but screwed up my citizenship. Yeah. Yeah. And so I have a green card and I'm legal, but Oh, yeah. COVID screwed me up. And so then I had to extend my green card, right? Because I, I didn't have enough time to process my, citizenship. Oh, yeah. COVID fucked everything up. Yeah. Excuse me. And so then, I, my, my, green card is valid until like 2032. Oh, okay. So you got some time. So I didn't, yeah. I didn't need to have it. Mm-hmm. Until a certain person. Walked into the Oval Office. We can't even go down there. Oh my God. I know. I definitely, it needs to be afternoon drinking for that game. And you're an old fashioned type of gal. I should have brought you one in. I know. It's fine. It'll be fine. It's too early for you. Yeah, it's way too early. Yeah. Way too early. I, I should have asked you, is it what time of day drink? Uh, because I feel like that, yeah, like,'cause we were talking about brunch. Exactly. Like, so, black Mary, do you like brunches? I love brunch. Isn't that the, that's the hardest part. Breakfast is my favorite breakfast. Me too. Breakfast food is the food I miss most from Scotland? Yes. Yeah. Like bras crave like BS square sausage, black Pudding. Oh yes. Chopper Beacon. And the black pudding is blood, right? Blood sausage. Yeah. Mm. I know the proper, the proper good iron. Like good iron? Yeah. Oh yeah. The, the polish, they have their, their duck blood soup. Okay. Which is, it's a vibe. Yeah. No duck. The polish are not known for their good food. Yeah. I mean, pierogi, you like pierogi. I don't them. They're just like ravioli. I cannot tell you the last time I ate a pierogi. Well, I mean, they're just ravioli. Is it a parro d Is there a day that every day eats pierogis? I think it's just like there is dingus day coming up. It's a, it's the day. I'm sorry, what? I know everybody reacts to like D-U-Y-G-N-S, or am I saying it right? Dengue. Dengue. Yeah. It sounds like a dumb ass. Right. You say your words, not mine. Don't put words in my mouth. I, I put enough bad words in my mouth. I know. All right. And you're unfiltered. Well then I'll, I'll, I'll, I am unfiltered. And that was the reason. And I think that's what we love about you. Oh, well, thanks. All the gaze, all the gaze and some straights. Yeah. I'm, I limit my straight accent. Well, yeah, you're an ally. Right? I saw that on your, bio the first time when I was like, coming across that don't care. I'm like, so where does that come from? Is it because she's European? Is it because she just like, is a fruit fly? Is she just like a badass chick that all as gays just want to be like, I just think that you deserve to live the life you want to live if you're not fucking hurting anybody. Mm-hmm. And when you see the state of like, the affairs politics worldwide. Right. Do you know what I mean? Like, we've got so many things to worry about. Mm-hmm. And, and who you choose to live with and marry. Yeah. And all the rest of it is just like. Why, why is that the, the topic of the day? Do you know what I mean? Why are we And it's still going on. Yeah. Why are we so concerned about, you know, drag queens and Oh God, all the rest of it. Like, yeah, I can't like, you know, rainbow crosswalks. What the fuck? People get grippy yourself. Like, does half the country even know what at war right now, are they just like, I think they're in their sand. Doesn't affect me. They're like putting their heads in the sand. Yeah, because like, I sometimes like, don't wanna watch the news. It's just suppressive. I, I filter that. I watch him, I watched The Daily Show with John Stewart. That's my news. He's good. And that's fucking satire only it's not.'cause you can tell he's starting to lose it a little bit. Do you know what I mean? He is, yeah. He's like, this will be a really good idea. I'm gonna come back and do one night a week. And his wife's like the fuck you are. I know. But, well, even interestingly, when like you and Michael moved in next door, like I told 40 people, oh my God, the kids are next door. So I said to my. I was like that to my kids. Oh my God. I just met, right? He's moving in next door this summer Has just, my next summer is gonna be fucking baller. Oh, I know, I know. That's not the kids see anymore. I was like, this summer is gonna be this summer of fucking Delaware. We're gonna get the kimonos out. Let's go and, and listen. Michael can have a party drink and I can, you know, I can get down with y'all. I could totally get down. We got a party. We take my face down. There's just gonna be dual access like skirt. Oh, maybe we should do a little pool. Charlie wants a hot tub. Oh, that sounds way better. Yeah. My 15-year-old bougie ass. Right. Teenager wants a hot tub. So where does he get the bougie ass from you? Yeah. Yeah. She just got her nose pierced last night. Oh my God. We took her finally. I mean it's, I think you kind of started it. I did. I did a lot of things in my, well, I turned 54 last week. Happy birthday. Thanks. Why don't you let, I guess on, did you have a worry back, even numbers? No, I don't. I don't. You're back on Even I'm back on. Even do not like odd numbers. Don't like the way they look. Don't like the way they feel. Oh yeah. The way they lick Luke. Oh, okay. I got, I got a little like, yeah, I got a cheesy tiger. Excited. Easy tiger. I know. yeah, so like I told like all my people, I was like, oh, Ryan, Michael have moved next, next door. Whereas if it had been, you know, a straight white man, I would've been like, oh, what's his deal? Why is he here know? So like, i's weird. And again, I think it's, when I think about my kids, so like Charlie Grace is 15, Evan is 19, so he'll be 20 this year. She'll be 16 in August, which is like ridiculous. That's wild. I'm not old enough. I think that was a, error in my birth certificate or something. I don't think so. But when I think about how they, how I grew up and what I was doing between the ages of fucking 15 and 19. Woo. Okay. Buckle. And I'm trying to like navigate them through it, but like, didn't a lot. They seem like they're good kids. They're great kids. Yeah. They're, they're, they're figuring things out and there's no, I think I had a very much a mother that was like, go fuck around and find out. Do you know what I mean? Like when I picked, when I picked subjects. I love that term for school. She's coming. You'll meet her. She's coming in and you're close with her? Uh, I mean, she lives in Ireland. I live in Pittsburgh. Okay. So you She's my mom don't talk a lot. We talk like, I don't know, every couple of weeks or not. And just, she's like the mom that doesn't say I love you. No, she does. She's very, she doesn't swear like she can handle the big shit. Okay. She can't deal with the small shit. So she doesn't wanna with, doesn't talk with it. She can't, she doesn't wanna deal with Petty, she just wants this like a next topic. Like Yeah. If she doesn't wanna talk about something, we're not talking about it. Interesting. Michael's like that. Okay. Because I know that you haven't really got to like hang with him as much. Yeah. But we did want to get together and we wanted to have a little party for your birthday. Okay. Well that didn't work. I know. Next, it always next year. I know. I don't know whose birthdays coming. Come up. Put in your fucking calendar. I know. I don't. We have another birthday. Put it. When is your birthday? Mine's in November. And so, oh God. What D It's 11. Oh, Evan's the 26th. Okay. So Evan's the 26. He's a Scorpio or a S. Sagittarius. A Sagittarius. And then Charlie is is August 4th. August 4th. And you had these kids with your ex-husband? In London. So Evan was born in London and then we moved back here when he was six months old. So what brought you guys to Pittsburgh? So my parents lived in Glasgow. Yes. And, Jason's parents lived in that place in Ohio, shall not be named. Yes. And, over the border. And, so Youngstown, we wanted, I've never been to Youngstown. and so we needed somewhere or we wanted somewhere where we were kinda close to and one set appearance. So we have like grandparents around for babies? Yes. Yeah. Okay. And family of some sort. And, and my mom and dad had moved to Ireland to live with my sister. So I have a younger sister, Susan, who's three years younger than me, like chalk and cheese. I'm, I'm not even, I mean we do kinda look alike, so I'm pretty sure we're like, yeah, biological, but hey, who knows? Maybe many, maybe many will share something with us like, so she's like totally awesome. Susan, if you're watching, I'm really sorry Susan, we wanna meet you. We want you to come to the bird. Get on the plane. I need to see the chalk and cheese. Yeah, she has three boys. So she's married to Ollie and she has three boys. And Ollie, what a classic name. Ola beer. Ola Beer. Is that the short Risco? Oh yeah. He's totally Irish old money. Yeah. Yeah. His dad. Sean's like a total character. He, he's a fisherman. Okay. Yeah. He fished, I think he's kinda semi-retired now. And then Ollie used to fish with his dad, but then got into an accident on there. Bo and nearly lost one of either his thumb or his finger. Oh my God. And he had to airlift him off and Susan was like, that's the end of that career. I'm not, now I'm not waiting for you to be airlifted off of Bo. Okay. When I said old money, I guess is what, not fishermen or not? Oh, well, I mean, I don't know. I mean I think at one point they probably made Yeah, like good money, but that's all changed because of European, right? Like infringements. So, yeah. yeah, I mean old money as in they weren't doing it for a fucking long time. Do you know what I mean? Yes. So she married Ollie, she went to Australia. I met Jason and we got married and then before we came back to Scotland to do like a fake wedding for all my family'cause we get married really fast in yeah, in Ohio. We came back six months later and did a Scottish wedding. But it was like a fake wedding. I mean it was a wedding, but we didn't need the legality of it'cause we were already legally married. But she'd already left and gone to. Australia. So I meet a boy from Ohio and like at, in Kamar of all places, which is West Coast, Scotland, like this just little kind of.in the middle of nowhere. And Susan goes all the way to Australia and meets Ollie, who's from fucking West Cork in Sydney, Australia. Oh my God. My dad's like, what are you two playing at? Do you know what I mean? So, yeah. So, so she came, you guys wanted to get out? I don't know that I wanted to get out, but I had this draw to America. Yes. And I cannot tell you. I cannot tell you why. Yeah. I, I can't, like there was always a draw towards like being here. Right. And I mean, grass is always greener, do you know what I mean? Well, I feel like you definitely stand out. Like somebody's like, oh my God, like this chick is a badass. She's got that badass. The fucking URL was available. So I used to work for a franchise company, Uhhuh, that does color analysis. Yes. Did you do pharmaceutical companies, like the sales reps? I mean, yeah, I've had clients like that. Yeah, because that's what my mom remembers doing whenever she first started. Oh, really? And she was like, wow, okay. So I cannot wear orange. Noted. So she's either, so she's either a, a winter or a summer. She's a cool chick. Yeah. Like the turquoise, the teals, the the blues. So she might, can she wear black? You know what, that's a great question. I would assume. Well, that makes an asset of you and me. So that's a good start. I dunno, black is not. Yeah. Just like, let's just get over. Yeah. Let's, let's hear the story on your job. Black is not, the human eye can see 10 million colors. 10 million. Okay. And that's most humans. Yeah. Most. Unless you're like me and you're half blind and then you're, the numbers start to diminish, but the human eye can see 10 million colors. Oh wow. And per season you get a quarter of the world's colors. So you look good in a quarter of the world's colors and I look good in another quarter, and so on and so forth. And when you say quarter, what do you mean by that? Like, so 2.5 million colors are your colors that you can physically see. Uh,'cause there's 10 million, correct. I gotcha. I do math. Math, not do math at some point. Okay. You know, I used to be a math guy. God, God. And you're a realtor. Listen, I used to be a good math guy and then I lost it. It was the personality to Where'd you leave it? I think I lost it. And fucking smoked too much weed in LA and burned all those fucking things. All the, all the math things. Yeah. Yeah. So 10 million colors you can see. So that's, that's your, that's your starter for Tan? Yes. But. DNA wise you, what we're analyzing in in color analysis is what's going on underneath your skin. So underneath your skin you have cells and fatty tissues that either have cool blue cells attached to them, or warm yellow. Interesting. Doesn't mean you wear yellow or you wear blue. It just means that the base of a color, so red, yellow, and blue are your primary colors. So every color in the world starts with red, yellow, and blue. Yeah. Warm people need more yellow, more warmth in that. Cool. People need more cool in it. Interesting. And it's DNA, so like my mom and my sister are both Autumns, so they're warm and I'm cool. I never did my dad's colors, but I'm pretty sure that he sat in summer the same as me. Yes. So he was cool. Right. Charlie Grace, my daughter is a spring. She's warm, right. Her other grandmother is warm, so two of her grandmothers are warm and she's warm and her parents are cool. That is so interesting. So she skipped her parents like DNA for that? Yes. And pulled it from her grandparents. Right. And then Evan, my oldest, he's cool, but he's winter, so he has less tone underneath his skin. We give him more bolder colors on top to balance him out. Whereas when you say on top, like, like wearing. Okay. Okay. So then when, as a summer I have already a lot of tone underneath my skin. Mm-hmm. If I go into winter and the colors are more saturated. So it's like fuchsia pinks or really like bright purples or like electric blues. All you see is the color. Although fucking today I walked in and here's, here's me muted and fucking like Canadian. I'm sorry. Did we I love it. Did we? Yeah. Canadian tuxedo with a lot. You said a great little one-liner. When in doubt or tuxedo cont. That's, that's in t. That's, that's my theory. Yeah. But I walked in and I was like, okay, fucking feeding into the background. I know, but you did. That's fine. You did that on another thing. I'll know next time. Fuckers watch out. You knew that from last time whenever you did that. Uh, what was it? The gala. Oh, I did a, I did a keynote for the, Pittsburgh magazine's Women's Quarterly at the, Pittsburgh Opera. Yes. And I turned up in this like rose. Pinky m dress. Yeah. Um, like mini dress. And the curtains were the same color. See, there's a sign something is like, meant to be with that. I look like a headless like AI person in all the pictures. Well, there's not a lot of women that could pull that hair off. Oh, the hair, everything. Yes. I wanna know what you do with that. Nothing. I didn't do nothing. You don't do any, you blow it out. Come on. I, I actually dried it this morning.'cause I knew if I didn't, it would be a hot mess. I love it. I have been going to the same, I had two, two hairstylists in Pittsburgh. The first one that, was a gay man that lived, of course, fucking back on me in my Mexican war street house. Where? Oh, he lived behind you, Bruce. Who owned Salon Latida? I've heard of it. Okay. Is that in Shadyside? No, it's in Mount Lebo. Or Mount Lebo. Okay. Yeah. so I used to have a, I used to have a pixie cut. My hair's been your length. Yes. And from your length it's gone to a pixie cup. Right. You wanted to just like, stand out. I wanna shave my head. We should do it together. I did it two years ago on a podcast. Yeah, we should do it. Do you? And you see that picture. It was my favorite moment. I think you could definitely rock her. It was so, I felt so butch. I felt like a man. Damn. I don't know you. What? First day for everything. I know, I know. You know what? Honest to God, it was just like, I think as a, as a wannabe actor, I was like, oh my God, I'm in a new role. Yeah. Like, I was like at the way I, it was just here. Oh my God. Look at grooves walking. Yeah. Oh yeah. And then the thing about it is though my boyfriend is like, I really like it long because he's just like, Hey, like attracted to the romantic. He, I don't know, maybe he just likes to pull on it. I knew that was fucking good. Yeah. You knew that was a cheesy dad joke. That was, that was, that was a cheesy Dad. Dad. What was it? Did I just lay that up for you? Yeah, you, yeah. No, you know what? I don't know what it is. It's like most, I'm sure you probably know this from being friends with a lot of gays, most gays do not like long hair on a man, but women do. I think a lot of women, or even just like people that appreciate it, like they like it. It's funny'cause I struggle as a single woman, single, ready to mingle. Whoa, let's, I struggle. Let's talk about that after this. I struggle sometimes as a single woman. With dating guys with long hair. Yeah. When I have short hair, right. It's like, because it's almost like a little bit like, and, and it shouldn't be. Would you be cool if he was a little like flamboyant and you were a little bit more Oh yeah. But the fun alpha, but the weird thing for me is like, so color analysis is part of what I do, but then the style stuff is part kinda b, although they should be kinda flipped, but that is what it is. But, in style we talk about, I didn't understand what you just said. You're gonna have to say it in English. So, captions, captions available. yeah. Maria, all your, all your bells and whistles. You need captions for me. Maria. So, color analysis is the mainstay of what I do because it's the kind of like, for want of better word, the kind of, The kinda, the, the fancy, the kinda glittery thing. Do you know what I mean? It's like the, oh, what's that? Yeah. It's like the magpie thing. Do you know what I mean? Right. Style analysis takes a little bit more work and effort. Yeah. So like, one of my, friends sent me a message, last night with a little reel that said, this is the style I want to evolve into. And I was like, how's that going for you? Because like what? Like you can't just look at a reel of somebody. Yeah. Or how somebody's dressed and copy it because then it's, then it's dressed up and I don't teach people how to dress up. I teach people how to dress authentically. That's magical. Boys or girls, male or female, whether you're going through a transition, you're transitioning, you know, either way or whatever.'cause now obviously the world of pronouns and how people want to be labeled, you have to be, you know, kind of like aware of how somebody wants to identify. Yeah. So like, you're hair in the sixties was the hippie look, you know, like, oh, they're just, you know, smoking weed and mm-hmm. Avoiding the draft, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, it, it was like, it, it had that label, if you like. Yes. Yeah. And like if somebody turned up at their house with a boy with long hair, it was like, oh no, we're not doing that. No, no. He's not gonna make money. Yeah. He's not gonna support you as a woman. Or, or like tattoos on some, or piercings on some. Right. And so, I think hopefully what I'm trying to do, or what I am doing and people are getting, you know. Or getting what I'm laying down. I love that. Even if they can't understand the accent, is that I want you to be authentic. Yes. Like I want you to feel and look equally as good in your clothes. Right. There's no point in wearing things that don't make you look in the mirror and go, yes, there I am. Right. Because a lot of people could not pull off this look because they either, they think, oh well I look like I love a Canadian tuxedo. But like you could even tell the way your body language is like you're super comfortable. Yeah. And maybe you're comfortable in everything, but I think right now specifically you're comfortable in what you're wearing. Well, I have an element of drama in my personality of behind. That's it. You might, I think you might have had a little acting involved with your life. I, that was another thing I always wanted to try my hand at. Like I could totally see you doing something that, yeah. Should do that together. Let's try. Yeah. Well let's start developing demo. Have Jeremy Rainer. So there's that. What. Jeremy ran, did me a lot for May of Kingston. Yeah, I haven't watched this year. Sorry. But you met him here? Yeah, he was at the In Pittsburgh film Gala last year. This year. Oh my God. So like this year I didn't get picture with them because I was like, can my work wife, because this, I offered to do that. So like I think I offered that in the first conversation. I think we already knew we were gonna be like this. Yeah. Then I was like, oh, you need a realtor assistant. I could fucking do that. Oh my God. Yeah. I could fucking do that. I know. And I have some And then here's the thing off camera. Talk about that. Because, because I'm old, people think I'm experienced. That's it. And you know what? Even the accent, I mean and the like. I mean I think it's half the battle is just like, well, when I first started the business, the conversation with my husband at the time was, the accent is key. Yeah. That's what is gonna make you And like. So true. If I had a fucking penny for every time somebody in Pittsburgh went, oh my God, I'm from Scotland. That's my American accent. Wait, they said they were from Scotland? Yeah. I was like, oh, where were you born? Oh, I was born here. I'm like, oh, so not from Scotland. Yeah. That's so Scotland. Or maybe they just have only lived and they don't understand that. Like, I feel like I really like my, my mind blew up. And you wouldn't expect this from living, living in state college, Penn State, because I was in industrial engineering and I was probably the only like white gay male. Wow. And there was all these like straight bros and then tons of Indian, middle Eastern, Kuwaiti and ti Chinese, Japanese, like, so I was like, this is interesting. Right. I don't know what the other part, because Pittsburgh is so. What would you say? Neighborhoods segregated? Not very cultural at the time. Growing up in the Sure. Early two thousands. Well, Pittsburgh and Glasgow, where I'm from, went through the same transition. Yes. So Glasgow was a ship building, city. Mm-hmm. So the high school opened and the shipyards opened. And you went from high school to the shipyards. Yeah. Or you figured out how to get the hell outta Dodge. And from what I know, did you feel that? No.'cause I was like, I loved it. I mean, I was born in the seventies, so by that point it was already starting to Peter out. Yeah. But then Glasgow, like Pittsburgh reinvented itself. Oh. So it became a tech city and it became, I mean at one point we were European city of culture. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Like, that was never on the cards. Do you know what I mean? That's interesting. Yeah. Where And same with Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was a steel town. Yeah. And now Pittsburgh, the amount of times that Pittsburgh. Since I've moved here, my friends will say, oh my God. Oh, we hear about is Pittsburgh this and Pittsburgh that? Yeah. And like, you know, all the hospitals we have here, CMU, right? Like all the universities, like the medical people we have here, like it's become like this kind of like, to me it's a little bit like a well kept secret. It is a well kept secret and I don't, and I think I am very privileged because I am as white as you can fucking get. Right. Female talk funny, like do the business that I do. Right. Do you know what I mean? And in levels of privilege, like, oh yeah, I up there. So I don't necessarily experience a lot of like the hardship obviously, that, you know, until you walk in somebody's shoes, you don't know that even as a gay man. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like you don't, you, I don't know what you're experiencing every day, but I feel like. The Yinzer, if you like, are a little bit more, they seem to be a little bit more accommodating. They are, from my point of view. Yeah. And Glaswegians are very much like that. Yeah. Like if you're standing on a street corner in Glasgow, like not that kinda street corner. I know exactly where your fucking mind went if you're standing on a street corner in Glasgow looking lost. Yeah. Someday, within three seconds we'll come up and go, what do you need 10? Where do you need to be? Like, what are you looking for? Yeah. Oh, don't go there. Go here instead. Like they'll totally change your fucking itinerary. And I feel like that with Pittsburgh. Like when I open my mouth and people hear the accent, they're like, who does that? Is that Who does bitch? What? What Uhhuh? Oh my God, I wanna get to know her. Oh my God. Yeah. I didn't wanna like come off too strong, but you know, I mean, too late. I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited and then I'm inviting you over for what? And then we never ended up making it happen. Yeah. I feel I'm, I'm still trying to work out how to best communicate with you. I, well, I'm really, you know, I don't think fucking texting is the fucking No, no. It's, you know what, I think when I started doing real estate, it was so overwhelming. I'm sure with messages and clients, well, you're 24 7. And then I got to a point where I'm like, I need to eventually phase like another phone. Like I need to Yeah, because like, and then that goes off to the site. Yes. Because it is just, it is just so hard because you get, like, you have all these contacts from like high school, middle school, and then college, and they only know this number. So then you're just like, well, I don't wanna switch my number. Like, did you, when did you get your number? Oh, I've had it for, since I, for like 10 years. Yeah. No, I've had it for 20 years. It's just all going. Yeah. Like can you imagine like getting another number? No, but I think there's ways to like automate your stuff. Yes.'cause I have like two Instacart. So I have my personal Instagram. Yes. And then I have the badass. Do you know that the badass, so like, let me ask you this, is that a business Instagram? Mm-hmm. So I was told that you should be a creator Instagram and not Oh, do it because it limits you limits. Okay. I dunno why I am right now. It limits you, I guess if you're a business. If you're a business. Like with the posting reels, with the, the type of music guys comment below, let's let us know what is happening is.'cause we don't know what the fuck we're doing. I'm trying, I'm asking Chad. GBT I'm like, apparently a business Instagram limits you on the visibility and the type of music that you can play with your reels instead of a creator account. Interesting. Yeah. But, that's kind of boring Shit. I wanna learn more about you. What do you wanna know? I was doing, I wanna know your messiest drunk story. Do you have one or two? So my messy story started, started, there was a couple years when I was 16. Oh wow. Well, because the drinking age in Scotland is 18. Yeah. So basically you're drinking by 16. Oh for sure. And even, even younger, right? Wasn't, yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't in a crowd that that was the thing. Okay, that's good.'cause I feel like it wasn't the forbidden fruit. No. As much as it is here. Like, which is sad. Yeah. I feel like, so when I was, I won't do my squittle. I'll stay on track. Well, I like it. Focus kind of go, you can go off track. I know it's a Scottish trait. So when I was Oh, a b, D, or because it's, no, I just fucking like to talk. It's a trait. I know. I love that about you. When I was 16. I am we, we had this friend that lived across the street from the scout hall. Yeah, and they had the scout discos, so it was underage disco, so it was from like 15 to 18. Well, 15 scout disco. Yeah, it's called the scout disco. There was one a month. It was like the fucking event of the fucking, if you were in high. I actually talked to my daughter Charlie, and said We should do underage discos. Like, where do these kids go in these days? Do you know what I mean? They used to go to this place in the strip, but that's not there anymore. Yeah. But like they go to the mall and then they get chucked out the mall. Like there's nowhere for them to congregate. Yeah. Unless you wanna do sports. Well, not all kids wanna do sports. Right? Do you know what I, and that can be not like a hot, that's like kind of just like a thing, not like necessarily like a relaxing, fun, like excite, right. You know, it's not like that because you always feel like somebody's watching you. Yes. What are you doing? Right. So at 16, I ended up on a golf course after the scout disco, drinking vodka and fucking concentrated orange juice. And to this fucking day, if I smell orange juice in the same breath as fucking vodka, you'll throw up. I'm 16 years old again. So we went, we, Sharon Hutchinson, I'm gonna send you this. Sharon Hutchinson's. Parents used to live across the street from the scout disco. We would drink in her room, like cheap ass fucking vodka, like no brand. And the box concentrated orange juice. Whoa, that sounds so bad. And we'd just fucking, like, we were so cool, we'd stagger across to the disco. We'd leave the disco, we'd go wandering, because at that time nobody had a tracker. No. You just had to be home at a certain time. Right. And for some reason we ended up this one night on a golf course. And I just remember bit by bit all the kids getting picked off. Do you know what I mean? Like one going home or one parent showing up. Yeah. And then two of my friends got me home and so I lived in this old like four a block apartment kinda thing. Yes. So, You came in the front gate and you went down the side gate and came in the back door. Oh. And what they did was they, they literally like had me up on the door, banged on the door and fucking ran. And at this point I'd already puked in the side yard. So my poor neighbors upstairs were gonna wake up to my puke on the side. So I'd puked there, came in the back door, like, you know, like just looking amazing. 16 God knows what I was wearing. But I remember they propped me up against the door, banged on the door and fucking ran. And so then my, I think it was my mom that opened the door. God.'cause it would've been my dad. I would've got another hat bun smacked. So the, my mom opened the door and my kitchen was like concrete flooring with linoleum on top. And so she opened the door not realizing I was right there. And I literally went in and I felt like I'd bounced off the concrete. My, like I just hit like my whole body, but at this point I was so I out of it. Yeah. That I feel like you know when your body's Yeah. So I just like crumbled and I remember lying there and I'd be like, I'm really sorry. Could you shout at me tomorrow? Because I am really sorry. She's like, what the hell? My mom does not swear. She does not like anybody swearing like it is bad. So she gets me up, she gets me in bed. Yeah. Then I take the pillowcase off my pillow and puke in the pillow. Oh no. And it's orange juice and vodka. Terrible memories. Do you not want to drink that anymore? I couldn't, I, no, I don't think I could. No, it would make you nauseous. I'm not a vodka person anyway. Yeah. I, my Jen is my kind of go-to. But you love an old fashioned, I love an old fashioned Jen is I, and I wasn't into Brown liquor until like my forties. Okay. A very good friend Jeff, who used to live down on the strip with his wife Maggie there in India right now. And he's the cocktail guy. So he kind of slowly progressed me into the brown liquor stuff.'cause he was like, you're Scottish, you have to drink brown liquor. I'm like, you tell me what to do. I'm fucking Scottish. Yeah. So, yeah, that was 16. So my dad woke me up the next morning and he's like, get out of bed. You've puked on Margaret's side. You gotta go clean that up. You're gonna clean all this up. This was like after you slept for what? Oh, probably five minutes. Yeah, that's it. I mean, I dunno what time I got, I think, I don't think I was actually that late getting home. I don't think that was the issue. Okay. But I mean, I was obliterated. Oh, mess. And it probably didn't take much. I'm 16, I don't, yeah. I weigh a hundred pounds. Do you know what I mean? Oh yeah. And I don't think when you're that age, at least when I was that age, growing up in Scotland, it was zero to a hundred. We're not socially drinking at 16, 17, even 18. Right. Like I remember like my house was the smallest house, but my house was where all the girls always wanted to come and get ready for a night out. That's cool. But you didn't go out until like 10, 10 30 at night. Yeah. And my dad would be fucking knocking on the door. When are your girls going out? And we're like, dad's nobody goes out before 10. Yeah, it's nine. And he's like, you need to get out. Like you need to get this party started. Meanwhile, we are in there drinking to get drunk before we turn up at the fucking bar. So we're half cooked by the time we walk in. Oh my God. And then by the time you get to the club, club Uhhuh, and at that point it was all like, you know, the rave stuff was all in, do you know what I mean? It was all like techno dance shit. Oh, so that's come back. Yeah. And it's funny'cause my kids make fun of me for listening to that stuff in the car. Like I'm a runner and I like to like work out and stuff. And that's the Do you go to WebView stuff? Nah, I mean, I'll walk around Forever View. That's a pain in the has to, to run. Yeah. But you like to run where? I run down on the, at the Waterfront. Oh, nice. Not at the waterfront. Like on like by the, by PNC Park. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Not waterfront. Although when I, I ran a, film marathon. In 2018. Okay. That was in Pittsburgh, right? One done, yeah. Nice. Yeah, the training at one point, I am literally at Costco at the Waterfront. Oh my God. And I'm like, what the, I could have fucking run all the way back. That's insane. I did not plan as well. Oh, what taxi? Yeah. Uber. Uber. Yeah. So the, the thing with the, the 26.2 miles is you have to train an 18 miler. I think I went, I don't know if I went much past 18 miles, but yeah. So I like to run, so I like that kinda style of music. Me too. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It pumps you up. Yeah. Like it's a dopamine kinda hit. Oh, for sure. So messiness started at 16 and has never fucking gone anywhere, like fucking legit. Yeah. I was at the film festival thing last week and people, a couple of people posted pictures and was like, oh, it's so good to see you. Great. That's so funny. I love it. You know what's best about that is like, you're still like, with it, you still don't have any like, legal issues. You don't like get in trouble with the law being arrested. You take an Uber, you know, you don't Yeah. I'm like, I mean, and I grew up like that. Like when I, yeah. Where I lived outside of Glasgow, like we could, get an 11 minute train into the city center. That was the problem. Like we had access. Yeah. To big city. It was like living on the north side of Pittsburgh and having access to Pittsburgh. Oh, nice. Like that's how close I was. Oh yeah. So you would take the trolley? Yeah, we were 10 minutes on the train. You could jump in a taxi. You could jump in the bus. Oh, okay. You know, easy. Yeah. We used to get like the midnight bus home. Like if we were skiing, we can go to like a nightclub. That's cool. We'd get the night bus home. Oh, what a fucking disaster. That was like, oh my God. When I think about it though, like, and then I look at me parenting Charlie at 15 who just, you know, wants to go to Walnut Jam. And I'm like, the fuck you're going down there with all those college kids? Like you already look like you're 18. Walnut Jam is like on Walnut Street, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a, it's like a party. It's the one time you close street, you see party The animal who, her fuck. Yeah. She's a mother's daughter. Like a party Apple pie. What is, it's definitely a little bit more like get the job done. I mean, he, he enjoys like his friends and yes, he does soccer and stuff like that. And but yeah, par Charlie's never met a person she doesn't like. I love that. She's like me. Yeah, for sure. Like I'll give you, I'll give you like well you don't like the people that are a little boring. I don't mind boring.'cause that's like energy. Yes. Like big energy. People in the room it can be like, can be very like off-put too. And I think for what I do and even for what you do, yes. You're attracting the, like, so when I left, the franchise business, because I felt it was becoming too much like a multi-level marketing. And that's great if you want to be multi-level marketing. Right. But I need to take care of my fucking self for like, I don't need a team of people to look after. That was never like a So that was a franchise? Yeah, it was a franchise business. And it was here. Yeah. Well they were, they started in the UK and I had my colors analyzed in the uk. Oh, nice. So then when I came here and I had a, a six month old, I was like, I was an operations manager for a travel company. Wow. Morgate, oh my god. Nigel Nagel, Nassar, two gay guys that owned an interline travel industry. That sounds fun in business. Yeah. We went, we went everywhere. Like they took me on cruises. They took me to Canada. Like they made me like number three in the company within like, oh my God. Two years of joining them. Yeah, it was, oh, it was like, so it was nice money. The best. Yeah. And, but I had like. Yeah. 26 days paid vacation. Yeah. And then I came back here and so I'd only been out of operations for less than a year with Evan being pregnant and stuff. Right. But, I started to look at operations jobs here, and I was like, what the fuck? Like, oh, they're like, well, you'll only get four days in your first year. I'm like, that's insane. I can't go to fucking Erie for four days. I know. Meanwhile, I take Evan and Charlie to Spain and Ireland last year. Oh my god. Two years ago for a month. That sounds amazing. Yeah. Like vacation people, like, you're gonna die one day. Well, and then it's just like, that's how you re restart. Yeah. Like, that's how you get refreshed. Oh. You can't like travel and I mean, I am very lucky Yeah. That I have people to go and stay with. Oh yeah. So I'm paying for the flight. I'm maybe paying for the car. Right. you know, like my mom and my sister feed me when I'm there, kind thing. Nice. Yeah. So like, so this is Spain. This is Ireland. Ireland. They're in Ireland. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. The girl, my friend Catherine. What part of Ireland? Huh? What part of Ireland? Southwest Cork. Okay. Five fingers. They're at the very, is that anywhere near Dinkle? nah, my sister does. She would know geography. Yeah. I, I, have I heard of Dingle? Yeah. I think it's further as you look at it. I think it's further east. Okay. My uncle in Chicago and then his best friend in Pittsburgh, they bought a house in Dingle. Oh, fun. And I want to say Dingle, not dingle. It's like Dingleberry. Yeah. You're overthinking that one. Okay. Of all the thick things you're overthinking that one. You're overthinking. Dingle as it's said, as it's spelled D-I-N-G-L-E. I'm already overthinking the color wheel too, because like, I think kind of going back towards your job, I love. Like, when I moved to New York, I was like, oh my God. And I dated somebody that was like really big into fashion and then I was like, oh my God. Like I don't need a big house. Maybe just like an okay car, but I need a stylist, or I just want to have the budget to just buy, like, and like you said, like not the costume. I realized I learned that early on, like when they put me in stuff, like just doing commercial modeling, it was like mm-hmm. It you, you could feel like it was a costume, but then once you found that right outfit or that look, that was you and it fit you. Now I don't know anything about the colors though, so I would love to do my colors with you. I was gonna say obviously, but that's, you should say that you should, and you know what, even still, I'm like peeking at my window in the morning. I'm like, what the fuck is he wearing? I purposely, I, I purposely leave my windows open so you can see. I'm like, that's what should happen. Tell me, you know, how like. Like the Harry Potter kinda thing, where they have that like little like secret thing we should have, like we should join the house. Michael's like watching this going. The fuck. We are uhhuh. But so, the color thing is interesting because most people think that it will limit the amount of colors they wear when actually most people are wearing, they're doing a Steve Jobs or a Mark Zuckerberg and they're just repeating the same thing because it's safe. And when they pick another color, people talk about the color. Mm-hmm. If people are talking about the color before they're talking about you, you are wearing the wrong color. Okay. That's good to know because the color, your clothes, your style, your fit, whether you do a lot of texture, whether you do a lot of pattern, is all to like emphasize and promote you. The person. Yes. That's their job. Their job is not to take over. Their job is not to be number one. Right. The issue when you look at people that do like. The red carpet or like have stylists, they're getting stuff, stuff from free from Armani. If Armani sends you a dress, you fucking wear the dress. It's fucking Armani. Do you know what I mean? Exactly. Like God dresses is all, so there's always that little bit of, like, when people say, oh, I wanna look like Julia Roberts, or I wanna look like Jennifer Aniston. What? Julia Roberts and what? Jennifer Aniston. Yeah.'cause unless you see Jennifer Aniston on the Daily, is it that, or is it Rachel, Jennifer Aniston, or is it, you know, whatever celebrity she's morphed into these days? Like Right. Because your clothing style, your clothing personality is a mixture of structure. So the body you have the proportions you have, right. And your personality. Exactly. So when you see somebody dressed and you're like, oh, I want that whole outfit, they've dressed you as a mannequin. They've not done when you, when they dressed you, they looked at your proportions. They looked at your skin color, your hair color, and they said, we don't want the clothes to stand out. We want the model to stand out. Yes. And that's why they picked what they picked. Right. But when you see it, I always say to people, when you come and sit in the chair and you see it, you can't unsee it. So like black. Black is a color I haven't worn in 20 plus years. I used to wear it every day. New York. Well if you lived in New York, yeah, I was gonna say it, but I think learning, like as you get outta that phase, you're like, I'm sure you would agree this way. I look at myself in black and I'm like, Ooh, it's not good. Black ages me and gives me like, even more wrinkles or it just, it overemphasizes. Yeah. That, and I don't need any help with that. Right. Like, good. This, I'm looking at like, okay, so the whole, like the whole, you wanna look at the whole thing? Yeah. Like the chains, the belt, the shoe. Like I'm looking at the whole thing. Yeah. But I'm also looking at your pretty face. Aw. That's why you're my favorite. Sorry, Thomas. but yeah. And that's what it's supposed to be. Yes. And like you mentioned earlier, it's also about your comfort level, right? Your comfort level is your comfort level, your self-perception. Yes. When you look in the mirror and see what you want to see, you're in control of that. Right. This is not fucking Downton Abbey. I'm not coming over every morning to dress your ass. No. Like you cannot afford that. Unless, unless you have a big budget. Yeah. Well, unless you have a big budget. I that would literally, that would, and I know this is not crazy, probably why? Like, I'm so fascinated about your position and like your job and your business, because I think a lot of people are the same way. I just don't think they're May, maybe in Pittsburgh or maybe it's the whole acting thing, but like, I was like, okay, a dream would just be like a stylist and an unlimited budget for clothes. I don't need the big house. I don't need the fancy car. Just your budget is your budget though. Yeah, because I listen to pod. I'm like a big podcast listener, like, and I listen to Financial guru, guru talk once about like how people like say to people, oh, well if you stop drinking fucking coffee every day, you could afford this. If I stopped drinking coffee every day, I'd be a miserable bitch. And who wants to be around that? I know. Well, he's probably saying have it at home. No, but here. No he wasn't. Oh. He was saying if you love going to coffee, like if you love getting up in the morning and scooting down to your local coffee shop and having a conversation with the barista and seeing a regular Yes. It's community. It is. It's social. And for some people that work at home, it's the only socializing they may get. Yes. Unless they have a partner or a dog or a crazy next door neighbor. Do you know what I mean? Right. So it's community. So if that$5 a day is like part of bringing you joy Yeah. Then fucking put it in your budget. Exactly. And find something else to take out your budget. Because I've always said I like my little house. I own it out. Right. Yes. It was our foreclosure flip, which that's pretty amazing. Don't bitch. Which enables me to live the bougie ass fucking life. I do. How did you do that? I found, I, my neighbor found it. I was going through my divorce. We were selling the house we were in. And Tim, the guy that lives like two or three doors up from us, that you'll see like the military, he's in the military outfit. I think I've met him. Yeah. Yeah. Talks a lot. Uhhuh. Anyway, he will definitely not be watching this podcast. No, we do not have to worry about that. Bless him. I think I met him the first day I was moved. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. But he came down to fix the pointing on my roof and said, where are you gonna go? What are you gonna do? And I was like, I don't know.'cause I can't afford the rent in the war streets and I don't really wanna move out the north side and I'm not moving to Ohio. And so he lives on Delaware and he's like, well, houses never come up on this street. And literally since I've moved there, fucking 10 houses I've been up for sale. Oh my God. Couldn't years. Right. So, I mean, I'm shocked. He called me like. I within a week and said, listen, there's a little house on my street. It's exactly the same as my house. You have to go look at it now. I am one. You will learn this by the amount of crap that ends up between your house and my house in the next year or so. Yes. I am one of these fucking DIYers has no business doing DIY, right? Like you'll see me like I knocked down the wall between my kitchen and my living room, my dining room. And you were sure it was structurally okay. Yeah, I had somebody check that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'm not an idiot. I mean, that's, that's we deal why a bathroom before? So I get you. Yeah. Oh yeah. I re retail my whole bathroom. I retail my whole kitchen floor. Yeah. I mean, I have help. I like pulled people into the madness. Yeah. You pull in some interesting characters. So like, but I always said like this little house with the yard and the garage and like, it's so cute. It's so neat. Like, it's so close to get to the airport, to get to downtown, to get anywhere else in Pittsburgh. I wanna go. But we had like a nicer car and no mortgage. Sure. No mortgage. And I mean, that's the life you can travel and what I need. And a cleaner. Oh, well I want, and I want the ma. Well, I want a cook. I want a chef. That would be beautiful and a cleaner once a week chef. Or every day? Every day. Oh, he can cook for me. Like and leave it. Yeah. And set instructions. Oh, for sure. I mean, I know how to use a fucking air fryer. I heat cooking. I hate fucking heat it. I want nothing to do with that. Like, but it's a necessary evil. Yeah. I'm surprised my kids are still alive, to be honest with you. I mean, half the time Charlie goes to through dad, so at least she eats there. Yeah. But yeah, so like Is he close by? Yeah, he's on Watson. Oh, nice. Yeah. So easy. So it's all in the observatory. Yeah. Yeah. So it's un hidden jam. It really is, because I never knew about it until like I, it's all these little like cul-de-sacs and little like, yeah. One way ends and one way outs and stuff like that. And the dealer's owners. But you can see MC Rooney is he up there? So the Rooneys apparently have a street. Like a bunch of'em are just like, wow. Rooney Rooney Rooney Or relatives. Oh, I know.'cause I know one of the Rooney. Okay, I know one of those. Yeah, those like cousins or whatever. Yeah. They're all like on the same street. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That makes, I didn't, I only knew there was, I didn't even know how massive Riverview Park was. I mean, you see it on a map, but then you're like, you walk through the park recently. And I'm like, wow. It's neat. They do a really good job. It's really cool. And the pool, do you go to the pool? Yeah. Nice pool's easy. You can walk. I know. I mean, do you take a bike? Sure. Drive. Well, and they have the jazz in the park in the summer, and then they have the cinema in the park. And do you get to sit on the, and do people come from other neighborhoods? Yeah. Okay. I figured. Yeah. People come up and they, and you can, you can go up and I don't know if they still are doing this, but you can go up to the observatory and Yeah. they'll open the observatory. Right. So every Friday night in the summer, it's a free tour. That's awesome. You just have to book your spot and they'll, they'll you whole actually on the tour committee. I didn't necessarily, the Hester, I, yeah, I didn't, I've never done that. I didn't necessarily want to do, no. Oh. So ours, I don't think our place is going to be, but I'm working with the group that organizes everything. Smart. I didn't wanna be, but, well, because it's another thing that you have to do. Oh, you got too many things to do. Well, maybe not. I don't have any kids. I have a partner who doesn't really give a shit if I'm out and about, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Like it's just one other thing. And so then I was like, well, and you wanna do it and you wanna do it right? Like I do. I help the PTO of Charlie's school. Okay. I said to them where she go, I do your website or you don't want say no der dice. Oh, nice. We're Dana. There's our connection. Dana. Yeah. Oh my Dana, my god, Dana. And she fucking her because she commented on one of your posts and said, yes. Oh God. My most stylish friend. And I was like, bitch, please. Oh, I know. I was like, wait, that's gonna bring the claws out. Easy. Maybe she meant to say most stylish male friend. Right. She needs to aid and you know what she is. And your comment, Dana, she is living in Pittsburgh and she's from Cleveland. She's adorable. She is. She's a sweetheart. Yeah. So, but like that's not a compliment's Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Oh, well, I mean, I don't, I'm not getting into that. You're not, you're not coming me into that. She lived in New York. She's, yeah. So she's cool because she has, she's cold, cold check. She's had out of state experiences. Oh, that's exactly it. And you've seen her house, right? Yeah. That's really pretty. Something about it is like that understated, like beautiful. Yeah. It's just like, it's looks expensive. Intentional. It looks expensive. Yeah. But it's like lived in Yes. Like there's no like ears and grs about it. How is Observatory Hill still affordable? That's a good question. I think so when we, when I first moved here, so that was oh seven. I was living down in the Mexican war streets and it was still called the central North side. Yes. And when bad things would happen on the north side, they would go and stand outside police h HQ on the north side and see this shooting happened on the north side, but there's something like 22 different north side neighborhoods. Yeah. So it could have been fucking six miles away. I know. Do you know what I mean? And so they were just lumping the whole north side into one big disaster pot. And the organization, that somehow I ended up being vice president for a couple of years. They said, we need you to stop doing that. Name the street Yes. Name the neighborhood. Right. Because you're lumping everything in and it's, it's not fair. That's it. And people, like I always say to people, when you move into a new neighborhood, go talk to the local community police officer. He'll tell you what the stats are. He'll tell you the good streets, the bad streets, the ugly streets. Do you know what I mean? So I think the issue is that Observatory Hill, war Streets, Manchester, Deutsche Town, it's all lumped as the north side and it's not. And I think a lot of the neighborhoods are trying to make themselves uniquely their own neighborhood. Do you know what I mean? So I think it's progressing, but I think it's just like, you know, I basically grew up in HUD housing in Scotland, and again, that gets a bad rep, but like for the war streets, what was happening is they were clumping all the HUD housing together and they weren't given these people that needed that like help getting into housing, the ability to be separated, and the ability to be mixed in with other people of different wealth levels of different like, generations. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think when you put a lump of people together, no matter like what level of income they are, like producers like, and so there's no way to see out of your situation. You're stuck in that revolving door. And so when you're, when you're intermixed with other people and you get to realize that, you know, just because the person next to you is house costs$750,000 and yours didn't, doesn't mean that person's not a nice person. Doesn't mean that person didn't come from where you are now, doesn't mean that they didn't take the opportunities that you actually have access to. So like for me, like I just feel like, I mean I love the north side and it's kinda fun'cause I feel like even though I've lived there for almost 20 years, I still necessarily wouldn't be regarded as a northsider.'cause I think unless you were born on the north side, you are not a northsider. You know, I'm not a pittsburgher. I'm still a Glaswegian. I'm a Ouija. Yeah. I mean you would never, like, home will always be Scotland. Like nobody would ever think of it as a pittsburgher, but like, you know how some people like want to morph into the place that they are. I did want to do that in New York. Sure. And it was like embarrassing after a while. I'm like, who are you? You're not a New Yorker. Yeah. Like, and and what is that even anymore? Right.'cause there's so many transplants. Yeah, same. When we lived in London, there was less original Londoners living in London. Like we lived, in an apartment block that had like Polish and Western Europeans and you had to, you know, go real far east in London, like cockney to find a Londoner. So yeah. So let's just keep it a little hidden gem. Oh, for sure. I think that might be the key. And you know, honest to God, I mean, I don't know. I think after being here for over like. Six months and meeting people like you and even like the housing tour community and then the Riverview Park. I'm like, why would I ever wanna leave? Because a lot of people, the weather build Oh yeah, the fucking weather. That's true. That's why you've gonna leave that a good point. And I lived in LA and then you kind of get bored with that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I get it. Like, but I guess people in Colorado love the weather because it is, it's got the season. I just want fucking four seasons in the appropriate order. Yeah. Don't gimme fucking 72 degrees in fucking February. I'm not interested. Yes. I want spring, summer. Depen to fall head, winter snow. Yes. Be done. I know. So with that being said, yeah. In this next season of your life, can you give us a little inspiration on how we are going to get a little, just more like Julie and just like really just be a badass. Can you give us a little like piece of advice as a sign off? Like stop giving a shit and just really living in your truth? Is that what we need to tell? I think you need to pay attention to what's going on in your season. Like,'cause honestly, the last year I don't feel like I've done a lot to really like push the business and like mm-hmm. I'm very, very lucky that once you're a client, you're basically a friend. And then yes, once you're in that kinda cult as I call it, like. For sure. Like I tell my clients, this is not like we do this, we do that. And then you leave like, I need to see you progress and I need you to ask questions. Like, you are my marketing. You are my pr. Yes. And so I'm very lucky that even if I don't really touch the business a lot, like business comes in. Absolutely. Which is amazing. But I think over the last three or four years, like I've worked with a mindset coach and stuff like that, I think it's like if you don't see yourself in the mirror, then who? Who do you see? And why are we playing dress up? Like let's stop playing, dress up and start looking at our lifestyle and start looking at the things we love and yeah, not giving a flying fuck about other people's opinions. If I turn up an event and I feel good. Whatever the event is, whatever the occasion is, then somebody else's opinion of who does she think she is or why is she just so dressed up, means that they're insecure about themselves and I'm not insecure about myself. Amen. Amen. She said it. Julie, thank you so much for coming today. I cannot wait to get the, whole color wheel, the styling. Yeah. Gotta get we done. We're gonna be working on something because it is important for my business and sales. Yeah. And as, you know, a style you are your brand. Yeah. And, and I feel like I'm my most confident when I am in that look. And it's not just about the vanity behind it, it's about. You know, showing people that you really respect yourself and you respect them by showing up, looking presentable. Well, and you attract people. Yes. Like and attract business. You know, realtors get the bad rep of like putting their 20-year-old face on their business cards, and then you show up and you're like, who's fucking grandpa? Like, that's not, I didn't pick, this is the hot I picked. Who the fuck are you, do you know what I mean? Know. But you are your brand. Yeah. Like no matter what you're doing, sales is a personality. Yeah. Like if you, if you're not personable and you're not like, willing to meet people where they are. Yeah, they're, they see it, it's so transparent. So like, I love it when people like, stop me and like, oh my God, who does your hair? And where'd you do this? And da da dah. And I'm like, let's talk about it. Exactly. I'm not in a, like, I'm not interested in a seal. No, no. I'm like flat. I'm genuinely like flattered. Like you we're, you're brave enough or whatever to be like, I had a guy follow me around Target one time and I was like, what the, what is the fuck? Is it me? Am I the like, and he's like, I'm, was he cute? So cute. Yeah. Okay. I track them, figured flies to shit, but he stopped me and I was with my daughter at the time and she was younger and he's like, I just have to see this as a whole. And I'm like, you know, thank you like so much for like being courageous enough. I know for some people it's not the easiest thing to give a compliment, but I, and I think that's one of the things we need to do more about it. My clients say a lot like, oh my God, three people today. This is ridiculous. Like, all I did was wear coral. I'm like, yeah, but if it's your Carl, then you know. Be a badass. We are more Carl, so we ready to get messy. Yeah. Thank you Julie. I so appreciate this. It's been so fun. This you gotta check out badass styling Yeah. Dot com. Badass styling.com. I got the com and you can follow Julie on Instagram at Badass Styling. Let's go. Thank you Julie. Thanks sir. Fun. You're so good to us. Thank.