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Confronting Betrayal: Tales of Marital Infidelity and the Quest for Truth and Forgiveness

• Original GOAT • Season 7 • Episode 8

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What happens when the foundation of trust in a marriage begins to crumble? This episode takes you on an emotional journey through the lives of a marrie  couple navigating the stormy waters of marital infidelity. First, we hear a gripping tale about a private investigator who never imagined he would need his professional skills to uncover signs of betrayal within his own home. After 18 years of marriage, peculiar late-night returns and admiration for a colleague/boss raise alarm bells, propelling him into a heart-wrenching quest for truth. The tension mounts as hidden conversations come to light, revealing the painful reality of emotional infidelity that threatens to unravel the life he once knew.

Our second story introduces Mr. T, a man caught in the turmoil of discovering his wife's unfaithfulness. His initial confrontation is met with tearful apologies, sparking a glimmer of hope for reconciliation. Yet, this hope is brutally dashed just weeks later as he finds her entangled again with her boss. Through Mr. T's poignant narrative, we explore the complex dynamics of trust and forgiveness in relationships put to the test. His resilience and courage in the face of repeated betrayal echo through this saga, leaving us pondering the resilience of the human heart and the challenging path to healing. Don't miss these compelling tales of heartache and the indomitable quest for answers.

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Speaker 1:

Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, you know what time it is. It's your pod host, og GOAT, and we have a story for you today. I have a friend of mine who is married for a good 18 years. He's been with his wife. He's supported his family like a man's supposed to do. He raised the children while the wife goes out and makes a living. He bought a house, several cars to have in the family house, several cars to have in the family, and then one day, after about 18 years, she job, only to find out later that she is at dream job.

Speaker 1:

I mean all the years it took to get to this point and to throw it away on something I'm going to have to say trivial, guys. Something so trivial when it comes to 18 years in a marriage. Yes, one night stand is trivial. I don't care how you think you feel about the other person, it's trivial. But you know what, guys? I'm already into this ongoing conversation with this gentleman. I want you to hear it. Okay, so you got this feeling and she came home a little tipsy. She came home a little tipsy and she came home tipsy from what?

Speaker 2:

hanging out with the girls one night or well, I was hanging out like her job, you know oh, she came home tipsy from work right now.

Speaker 1:

Do you think she came home directly from work or do you think she went out after?

Speaker 2:

work. She came home directly from work. Or whatever she works in went out after work. She came home directly from work, or whatever she works in the food industry oh okay, all right, understood okay.

Speaker 1:

So now she comes in tipsy, and then what happened?

Speaker 2:

so then after she came home, tipsy whatever like you know she was talking about, like you know she was starving, so she came home it's like 12 something at night, like 12, 15, midnight. So I was just like, first I found it a little bit weird because you know, this is the first time she's ever worked in like the food industry and the first time I've ever heard of like you know, like a job where you come in and later, you know, in the middle of the night, Right right.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and by the middle of the night, you mean, like what time? Like you know, like 12 after 12 midnight, you know, like it just was a little, it just was a little weird for me, you know wow and uh, and she normally gets off of work around what time? Well, it depends. Like normally she'll get off of work at like the pennings, like they'll close at like 9 pm, but you know there's no way you should be getting home at like 12 am. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And how far are you from her job? 15 minutes, whoa, and so you didn't have no idea of any extracurricular activities after work. She didn't mention anything like that Anything.

Speaker 2:

Right. So so you know, it became a thing to where you know I got um, I got suspicious because I'm like you know, it's just like, don't make no sense.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying right, right, definitely so this night that she came home tipsy, she was just like um, oh, did you um make anything to eat or whatever? So I'm like no, because you know it's 12 o'clock at night, but you know what am I going to make for food? I didn't know what time you'd come home. You know what I'm saying. So then she had made a comment, I guess, where she worked out in the food industry. Like you know whoever her person was, she, you know whoever like her person was. She was like oh they, um, thank God that they made food to me. And she said the person's name and I was just like why would you mention another man's name about how he made you food and everything else? And, like you know, you acted real shady towards me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait a minute. So this other man it was one of the waiters or something- Well, Wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

So this other man it was one of the waiters or something. Well, I guess one of the waiters, or yeah, something or whatever that worked in the industry that she works in.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

You know, at her job. So when she told me that, it threw me so I was just like, wow, like you know, like you're bringing up this person and like you're talking, you know, like in so much positive praises with them, and person, and like you're talking, you know, like in so much positive praises with them, and that struck me a little bit odd, because you know you don't do that with me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So, um, so after she said that, it made me really wary. So I said you know what? Um, by trade, I'm a private investigator and everything else. So I guess she probably forgot that you know what I mean, because sometimes when you're with somebody long enough, you get too comfortable and you forget how it started. Right exactly, and so I put some listening devices inside the vehicle and, uh, less than 24 hours, I got exactly what I what I didn't want to hear you got a hit big time wow now big time now you say big time.

Speaker 1:

I mean like what was involved in this hit? Or I mean, what did you hear people want to know? I want to know. I mean, what did you hear People want to know? I want to know. What did you hear?

Speaker 2:

Tell me you didn't hear what I think you heard. Well, no, I didn't hear like sexual acts, but I heard. What I did hear was her talking about you know how come he doesn't talk about it the next day? And he was just like you know, like talk about it, what do you want to talk about? And she was just like you know, like talk about it what you want to talk about. And she was just like you know she repeated again.

Speaker 1:

I just want to know how come you don't talk about it the next day after some really good stuff? Well, was it the restaurant food, maybe?

Speaker 2:

that's a delectable. You're talking about something delectable. You're talking about food. She's talking about some really good stuff as as if it was food.

Speaker 1:

You would just say that Right, but it wasn't food. Oh okay, I see where you're going with this. I see how you're going.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. And then later on in the conversation he was telling her, like you know, like, did she like play with herself when she was doing like autopilot in her car? And then she was like, absolutely, she was like, after that moment I had to. So I was just bugging it when I heard that I was just like wow, I was like yo, this, this shit really went down. Wow, you know what I'm saying. And then she had later told him, like you know, um, because I guess he called her jealous and stuff like that. So she had told him, you know, you must have never loved someone before to know why people get jealous. So then it went through my mind so you're saying you love him and that's why you act in a certain way with him when he's around other people.

Speaker 1:

You know what.

Speaker 2:

I mean Like you get that jealous, or whatever. You know what I'm saying, so get that jealous, or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So I'm hearing all of this stuff firsthand and it's like it just built its own blueprint. You know what I mean, because it's like you just know what happened. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yes, definitely.

Speaker 2:

You just know what happened and stuff like that. And then she had told him later on, like you know, she was like a jealousness doesn't come from like whoever he talks to or whatever she says, it comes from the attraction and love that she has for a person and she was like and I'm attracted to you.

Speaker 1:

Wow. Now let's get a clear focus on this. This is your wife we're talking about. You guys are married, or this is your girlfriend?

Speaker 2:

Nah, this is wife Married. Yeah, Everything.

Speaker 1:

Do you have children with this woman? Two, this wife. Yep, wow, and how long have you guys been together?

Speaker 2:

Since 2006. Married 18 years 18 years yep Wow.

Speaker 1:

Okay, go ahead. Finish the story. So what happens next?

Speaker 2:

So then what happened next is that I had approached her with it you know what I mean and I was just like yo, what the fuck is going on? Why did you say whatever? She's playing dumb. She didn't understand. And I played the recording and she was just like what the fuck is going on, you know, like why did you say whatever? She's like, you know, playing dumb, like she didn't understand, and I played the recording and she was just like I'm sorry, you know.

Speaker 1:

And I'm like you know, like she heard the recording and she says I'm sorry, right?

Speaker 2:

She says I'm sorry. I'm like you know, like all of this time he was telling me cause. I had asked her before, like are you having an affair? Cause after I heard it I immediately started questioning her. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like yo, do you have an affair? She was like no. I was like are you fucking your boss? She was like no, that's my boss. He writes my paychecks Like that should change from what's wrong to I'm sorry. You know what I mean. You're trying to gaslight me, to get me to believe one thing, and it's not what it is. You know, like that term, who you thought was them really? Ain't they playing deja vu with the games people play, you know?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it was that type of shit misdirection. You know, let me throw him off the trail. So this way he thinks something different. He thinks something different. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And then she comes back to cop what she just did.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Exactly After she heard. The recording is like no way out. Right, right, unbelievable.

Speaker 2:

So now, so, so now when she cops to it.

Speaker 1:

How do you take it from there? What do you do?

Speaker 2:

Do you forgive her or what do you do? I was in a state of shock. You know what I'm saying. Pretty much it's like when you hear something so detrimental like that, it's like a huge blow, you know, because you start questioning yourself what did I do wrong? What made her do this or why did she do it? You know what I'm saying until I realized that. You know I mean don't get me wrong I cheated before 15 years ago. You know what I mean. Okay, and she brings that up, like when I'm talking about a current situation, she's talking about something from 15 years ago. So I'm like, oh, this, this shit is, um, like revenge kind of thing. You know what I mean, because why are you bringing up something from 15 years? How is that helping you now?

Speaker 1:

okay, so she forgave the situation that you did when you cheated. She forgave you forget for that right, but she didn't forget right now is it possible that this could be a revenge from that. But would you wait, even wait 15 years, to implement a revenge tactic or on that? Or do you think you have carte blanche now that you have one get out of jail free card because you cheated? I mean, what do you think is going through her mind?

Speaker 2:

well, I think that, um, I asked her, was it a revenge thing, and everything else. So she said no, it's not a revenge thing, or whatever the case is that.

Speaker 1:

So she said no, it's not a revenge thing, that this is just just something, something stupid that happened, right, because you did mention she fell for the guy because of certain situations or certain feelings she had for the guy, right, okay, okay. So now you know she had this relationship with this man, you know it's sexual. Okay, you have the recording and what do you do at this point? I mean, are you looking to forgive her as she forgave you? What do you do? I mean, you guys been together for 18 long years. I mean that's a lot of time just to throw away. So how do you handle this? Just to throw away? So how do you handle?

Speaker 2:

this? Yeah, no, exactly, you know, 18 years is, you know, too long of a time, but then, at the same token, you know what is time.

Speaker 1:

Hmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you can throw it away that easy?

Speaker 1:

what is time right? So are you going to continue with your marriage? Are you going to forgive her? What's the next step in that saga? I mean, the whole thing is like. I mean your wife for 18 years cheated on you with the boss and you're the one that built an opportunity for her to make something of herself so she can do while you take care of the kids. I mean, you're going through a lot right now for a wife to do that to you. I mean, what part of the game is this? And you know, it seems like your relationship or your cheating was prior to having the children, am I correct, right? So she cheated after you had your children, and how many children you said you have now Two. Two with the same woman, yes, with your children. And how many children you said you have now Two. Two with the same woman, yes, with your wife. And her cheating is after you had the two children, correct? Wow, folks, this is a saga like no other. I mean 18 years with the wife. What part of the game is that?

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you a question Is the boss married, does he have a girlfriend or he's a single available guy? What's going on with the boss?

Speaker 2:

Well, and here's the other thing. The boss is married, he's with his wife I think about seven years or 15 years or something like that and has four kids with his wife.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow, this is deeper than any television show I've ever seen Go ahead. So he's living with his wife and he is.

Speaker 2:

So you know he has four children, you know. So you know my whole thing of it is is like OK, do you leave her, get the force. That do you know, what do you do? You know what I'm saying. So I say you know what us. That do you? You know what do you do? You know what I'm saying. So I said you know what. She was crying and talking about how sorry she was about the infidelity, and um, I then told her I said, listen, you know, she was like I moving forward. I promise you I won't be doing this again and everything else. So you know, I know I wasn't going to forgive so fast, but you know, again I was very angry. So I said you know what, let me just see how things go. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, I'm sorry to tell you this sounds like a train wreck, but go ahead.

Speaker 2:

No, but it is what it is. So you know, like I'm listening to is. So you know, like I'm listening to her, and you know I felt a little bad because I know, hey, you know what First time you got caught this is probably something that you know, whatever. So I didn't like let her know, like, okay, look, I'm just, you know, like I'm over it, because I wasn't, but I just wasn't entertaining it to the extent of so you're doing your best to forgive her.

Speaker 2:

Trying to right Okay. So I said you know what, Let me just watch and see whatever the case is or whatever. So you know she's going to work and she was crying and you know she's so sorry and moving forward like she said it's not going to be happening again, okay, so keep this off your face. So you know me, I'm just watching out because I just know sometimes people just talk shit and they just say one thing and do another and you're a shit. Less than two weeks later I catch her again with the same dude.

Speaker 1:

With the same dude.

Speaker 2:

Her dude With the same dude, her boss With the same dude, her boss. And this time I had it on video, not the sexual act, but it was them kissing in the parking lot.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness, Hold on, mr T. This is getting deeper and deeper than I ever could have imagined. Mr T, we have to end this session right here, but we're going to come back. Folks, you have to stay tuned for part two. This is out of control. What part of the game is that, in a marriage, your wife cheats after you had two children together and after you made a way for her to do something for herself and to be successful while you take care of your children? Right, mr T, I have to commend you on what you're doing. I'm sorry you're going through this, but listen, I can't wait to hear part two. Thank you for coming on the show today, mr T. No problem, and we'll talk to you soon. And remember, folks, this is your pod host, og Goat, and we want to know what part of the game is that we're out.