#040 Artificial inteligence & SelfCare - 02 PODCAST by Miha Berčič & Boris Turk

More about Boris Turk and his work: https://www.facebook.com/groups/76518252495

Permaculture Association of Slovenia
https://www.facebook.com/permakultura.si

Permaculture is the creation of sustainable and productive systems based on the observation of natural ecosystems. The purpose of permaculture is to create sustainable farming, build living spaces that are in harmony with the natural environment, and create a community-based socio-economic organization. Permaculture includes the use of sustainable methods of food production, recycling and reuse of waste, and the use of renewable energy sources. The main principles of permaculture are caring for the earth, caring for people and sharing the surplus.

Welcome to the podcast series presented by BELIS & Black Raven Solutions and Wilderness Academy! This episode is all about exploring the secrets to happiness, and we've got some amazing insights to share with you.

Embarking on a new goal: Society for happy life BELIS & Black Raven Solutions Wildernes Academy are cooperating on podcast productions.

Our target is audience for the podcast produced by Society for happy life BELIS & Black Raven Solutions Wildernes Academy, it is important to strike a balance between informative content and entertainment. The tone is friendly, upbeat, and engaging to capture the interest of listeners. Therefore, the podcast is crafted in a conversational and relatable manner, while still clearly conveying the purpose of each episode. Overall, the introductions aim to provide valuable insights and perspectives to listeners, while also keeping them entertained and interested throughout the episode.

Thank you for your cooperation, and we are looking forward to working with you on this project. Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns, so we can include your story.

We're excited to work with you on this project. Our upcoming podcast episodes will cover a range of topics related to wilderness education, nature conservation, and outdoor lifestyle. We'll be featuring guests from different backgrounds, such as environmentalists, adventurers, and educators, who will share their insights and experiences with our audience. We would appreciate it if you could create engaging and informative introductions that capture the essence of each episode and guest. Please let us know if you need any more information or assistance."

- Exploring the Great Outdoors: Insights from Environmentalists and Educators
- Wilderness Adventures: Stories from Adventurers and Explorers
- Nature Conservation: Strategies for Protecting Our Environment
- Outdoor Lifestyle: Tips and Techniques for Enjoying Nature Safely
- Surviving in the Wild: Lessons from Experts and Survivors
- The Call of the Wild: Inspiring Stories of Adventure and Exploration
- Back to Nature: Reconnecting with the Outdoors in the Modern World
- The Power of Wilderness: How Nature Can Heal and Transform Our Lives
- Living off the Land: Sustainable Practices for Surviving in the Wild
- The Beauty of the Wilderness: Capturing the Wonder and Awe of Nature

It's time for another exciting episode brought to you by BELIS & Black Raven Solutions and Wilderness Academy. Get read

Transcript

0:00

And this is the first time, and only once, good day, beautiful good day, the second ee humanity podcast I teach ee in Slovenian this time with English subtitles. I'm Miha Berčič, the founder of Brecljevom sunka da mi em in I don't know teacher ee. Survival in nature, connecting with nature and discovering the wild part of us inside with me is Boris Boris, please introduce yourself. Hi, Boris the permaculture gardener. Excellent. This is all that is important for today, or rather today the modern world is left with only goods, because they contribute to it. Well, that's what I would say, it would be even better if it did was a savage, but I don't have enough knowledge to go into this area. Basically, it affects yes, but on all these production systems and different pores. Of human cultivation and creation on this planet. Here, just start, please. I would highlight how I thought as a child. So what then? How thinking has changed over time. Em and as a child I did not see the essential advantage of the garden itself. Mom worked in the garden. I associated all her work as a waste of time or. Everything that was em more. That there was more than just cultivation, that there was someone lick the garden, I called as em, because you don't have really what else to do in this world, even though it was that good for the soul for relaxation, for contact with the earth, to obtain electrolytes. I mean, I see so many positive effects today, when I didn't see them then I didn't even dream about it, I'm sick of these positive effects em eventually as i grew up i started. It looks like there are slight problems in stores because of it food poisoned em and then started to connect it. Okay, maybe it's good to produce something ourselves, produce em I received them on the fax. Yes, one day I wanted organic apples and I went to the Internet. At that time I was living somewhere other than where I am used to I know the farmers around me in that area and in half an hour of internet browsing. I haven't found a single farmer who would sell it with that I am a computer scientist, programmer. Emin could be good at googling, especially no em. I was slightly disappointed by this and said at the time, I will made an application that will help us with that we will be able to connect farmers directly with sales by calling farmer, you say that, but that's what I want. You collect a basket of your own and bring it home or later some better ideas were created. And I also saw that they exist. There are already people in Slovenia who deal with this were from Ljubljana em. Those were the em seasons and this was one a team of people who then divided into 3 parts and I started for one of them. We had a well organized event in Ljubljana. Em that consumers could massively order food online and then took it directly from the farmer, which means that the farmers were gathered on a certain day at a certain time there 3 ur. We had, and we were the intermediate article which we collected purchase orders from consumer customers. That lasted. I think one week, then the marriage with the purchase order closed and the farmers could prepare food and then it for a day. To bring to them em, it was very good for the farmers and for consumers and also for us. We got something for free as a reward. Unfortunately, we haven't gotten to the cache yet, because there isn't one there were enough customers em. Then the farmers were in the plus because they didn't need so much time waiting for customers and you hate this time your dedicated ee supply their farms. Um, then with the consumers, they were also lucky that they weren't used, then going from farmer to farmer, losing the weatherman for gasoline and the mileage and his time, but they are get everything in one place. No, it was almost like coming in a supermarket. But I won't say that he collected most of the profits, no and those intermediaries in between. Not with the fact that our margin wasn't even that much, yes could cover the costs. We were able to cover the costs ourselves with our own money. We didn't have, we didn't even get that much back, but we did was in our interest because we still believed in the future, once but that moment will come when we can too had some income, but then we tried for a long time not to and she was quite ornk. They gave a lot of time to the friend's investment, plus more one couple of other friends um, somehow 3 of us are really active worked in it for half a year, and others who worked a little less actively, who would this thing time that they tried, including farmers. Um, our project is delayed due to various personal matters in ee family was not completed after half a year if somehow the energy dropped because there was not much income and there was justification tion. Erm, which means, someone working d who has would need this already capital not now. Why, because it was very difficult to attract buyers to come to us. Everyone had something in their heads, but organic food and expensive, because it is also in the store now. But if you create a fridge like we wanted to make, but we have it on a smaller scale. However, the food was relatively cheap and we didn't deviate much from it organic products from the conventional products themselves. AAS that I wasn't even there as members. I was there to volunteer, a programmer volunteer em. When this was one such cute story. Then the em was repeated three times. We tried zalaufat three times in different ways, we were already like that all smiling, but now it will rain and then the thing stopped. Now the friends are working again, they have a nursing home. Today, another programmer made an effort to make a platform in the way it should be emmi we are at the start somehow eh. Not according to my idea, but rather according to my colleague's idea he didn't know that much about himself. In the programming itself, we went to the magento platform, which is online shop and also enables ordering, without needing to proceed further pay for things first. We took it for free because that's how dna em fail was but in that each product took 5 minutes to enter. The farmers, however, changed their em every day in quotation marks. They'll just offer it because sometimes they feel like it potatoes, ran out, sometimes schools ran out, because we we also worked with farmers who are not, who do not have production to feed all of Slovenia in quotation marks, but with small farmers plus now even bigger ones. Well, when we had, I don't know, a couple I don't know if he hasn't one even more than 10 hectares. Well, these aren't some Canadian farms where they have big ones vans for 3 tractors. And municipality and. Em. Yes, today she dealt with Laufala, so she is a programmer made my app. From scratch I will almost say well um, I didn't serve zealous third open source things, but from ee. Here are some of your intuitions on how things should be structured half as many options, faster, you can only perform the ordering functionality adding products I don't know I have to I could ask exactly how they liked it now, but he will come and accept it so and now the thing is maintained at least to this point until there is no turning back. When I saw this client. So you are basically also saying that you grow your own, you have your own. Kindergarten. AA is. I was full. Biodynamic. The next thing I realized was organic farming too certain limits of dispute, certain pesticides are still used there. Otherwise they say that they are fairly safe, but they are not, while permaculture it doesn't need anything, that's how it started for me it pretty much stroke me and I then attended one I am taking a DC course at the Veles farm, we were there for a month. One 10 or 14 days in education. AA we had permaculture teachers and I would highly commend em, if you come across the option ee permaculture design cors sing there ee at any time of this stay or even if bo eu ja ali ga sky em there ze fresh essential things for life em. Unless you are even more lucky to be able to go to the savages, but I do not yet know how long they will exist. No. We will exist, but there are more and more urban children grants that okay. I'm taking care of it. Cool em great m you know what you know? What if the use of technology for food production, let's say what you are talking about you just said everything, is direct contact with the earth, permaculture, biodynamics, organic farming, maybe let's say ee of that one most in Slovenia em. What do you call it? Not integrated agriculture, but there are a lot of systems that are high-tech. Let's say I don't know hydroponics, then aquaponics, and the rest of the other things, which basically also used a lot of sensors, a lot because of pre-prepared substrates, i.e. substrates that plants need, which are dissolved in water and then micro-dosed. Literally every plant can now. That is, exactly this plant. We detected it with these sensors and fed the matter into a neural network. Somehow, I need a little more nitrogen, I have phosphorus, we'll do it here, the tiny ones have been adjusted like this, while the money is a salad it also needs a tiny bit more potassium, and we will be nicely micro-dosed there. This makes sense aw yes, at least I think computer science could it helped, but it can be done without it, I saw it use cases where they have reached a full angle. I will say that the chickens and the fish introduced an integrated system We had something through the transshipment company, so that's it everything between them gave a kind of symbiosis to the chickens they gave riban, which is what fish need to survive. The fish gave what the algae needed, the algae gave it what the salad needs and then the salad gave it what it was a man then a man gave her food baskets and it was a full circle. Hm super. Em. Until then, it was the man who saw where what missing and added it with his hands, not now, if he would wanted to create this system bigger, maybe because I already needed it some technical aids. Well, I especially found one one, the movie one, interesting saw the short clip. A fellow in fish I think it was so far, that is there was one model that I don't know if she was which country is spain? Em also created one such system of symbiosis, where people wondered how he came from one lake, or rather a river flowed into the lake. I think it's still called a lake, but then she moved on from that lake, and in this lake of his, he raised so many different kinds of fish, that he didn't bother at all when a flock of birds flew in more than 10 km away, because she knew the soil was good. Fish. Mm. And he was all. I'm glad he said, look, they'll eat you up here. Janja said the harpist was 20 years old they will take away super good ecosystems. AA, so it was also a kind of symbiosis between birds, fish and people, and the point was still there additional ee water that flowed there is from different death passed in that said and was at least 18 per wife. It came to the war cleaner, as if it had come from some spring. After him. So it was really em ornk processing in there a lot of bacteria. Yes, if the biological system is not overloaded, it does not somehow preserve it some homeostasis, some balance and is capable of self-cleansing abilities insanely large ones, and there are also a lot of biological ones. E methods of cleaning em also oil spills and so on em and that's it. Will probably now begin to be used profitably in the coming decades for let's clean up this planet, which we care so much about or maybe you talk a lot about some kind of symbiosis or connection. I will call these higher positive relations between various stakeholders some system, closed or open, and open em. How do you imagine this symbiosis? Man, or indeed some natural system for processing food so me, me Em. He asked me, I was working. I had the idea to do my thesis on the search engine of organic farms thesis on em consciousness and artificial consciousness yes or no? Now and then I saw that there was a lot of conflict or disagreement including what artificial intelligence even means and what consciousness is of the machine means what what all, what factors must be realized, that you can say to a creature that it is a living being or a conscious being. It's a smart intelligent being and there's a discrepancy here, so on to begin with, before I say anything about it, I can't say yes I don't have a definition of my own, and it's hard to say either. Whether it will be possible to cooperate or not, because it is difficult to say whether this artificial intelligence even exists, there have already been plenty of them of tension where the machine should reach. I don't know what all the functionalities are, but it turned out to be it's all just one big fanfare because they were big subsidies and if you said that this machine achieved such and such functions, then you got from the government or from whom already big money em polje, but the project went silent and you are no more. Not a single ad, or anything about it, not even a ghost. I think I will say neural networks are already at a very high level level, the question is not whether artificial intelligence is conscious itself yourself, or is it just something programmed in? There are debates here now. I am also not an expert in this field either. I follow this as an amateur. I don't follow scientifically in-depth em, I don't have the competence, that's why. Erm, you probably have a bit more here too. I don't always have the competence either, which is a matter of course a different way of programming. I know that machines can learn many things, yes and yes also there are algorithms that teach learning em probably faster processors and rams of india and supercomputers are advancing this very quickly. Let's not introduce it to our brains, I'll say, or to the masses' torturous abilities. E edo but learning abilities only in some areas. No, not that big. The breadth of intelligence, or neural networks, imitates the human brain as much as theirs way of learning em, but now a neural network tends to be like that good, as good as the data that drives it, and above all, the amount of this data does not really matter devices our cell phones generate very good daily net real. Let's feed and feed not ee this child, who will now be slow was born in full bloom. Suitable because artificial intelligence ee is already involved not in observing the weather. What will the forecast be for tomorrow? Will you fall or not? I am so lucky that every time I look at this at least capable of dictation and artificial intelligence, what will the weather be like tomorrow e I'm lucky enough that it's not right. Um, not so much about how advanced artificial intelligence is in practice. At least these publicly available practices. Yes. However, they have made considerable progress in tracking, for example artificial intelligence. It is used alone in em phones. Well, video analysis of both cameras, monitoring em surveillance. Face recognition. Let's say when. All that goes into controlling us every step of the way. Yes, where are you, what are you doing, what are you going to buy, yes they already know how to tell us em by monitoring em views ee various advertisements and websites on Google itself. But not much more knowledge even to say that it is women like it even before it goes. Yes. They see, aha, there comes a period when a woman starts from these. Pages. Let's say I don't know exactly what doesn't start returning to each other things that from endvatri start others from today to tomorrow things to accept and connect it then. But this happens with pregnant women and then they offer her commercials related to pregnancy, which she already has this is not the case in the subconscious. That is, if you are worried, but she is your wife pregnant women are not executed. The question, he will know soon, it's cool, it's good, maybe another one. Yes, it would be useful, but use or anything for the hood wat z em protecting your crop from hail. Best. No and, here would be good many things you know like because you lose the whole harvest, maybe not half a year. The best can also provide some protection against drought. Or rather. The more water, the better, to bring more moisture inside. For example, if you have greenhouses. In short, anyone who listens is engaged in modeling. One very good niche here. We know that the weather changes because of various human activities factors or global changes. And here is one good product that you can develops, which will help one not only to get rich, but to generally people keep something of their own. I won't call food independence that way, or our security, because they say that we will now run out of food. When we're on time. Um, we have to conclude, thank you for your time, maybe a final thought. Em. It's hard for me with 8 AV if we can produce as many things as possible locally. But if we are already importing the problem of buying from green sources, where there is no exploitation of the very ecosystem of exploitation in the sense of destruction, which means the destruction of tropical forests and other forests. And this is where I mean the making of bare bones, we have to check for ourselves what happens this information from those we can trust and verify the source. Reliable or not if not reliable. Better not buy another thing buy let's say one such example we have now with cocoa, when I started googling about what is behind the cultivation of cocoa and that 70% of all child slavery is related to cocoa, he suggested that 60 percent of cocoa is from countries, where slavery is emin where the people get $1 a day and the farmers 6 percent of. As far as the cocoa is ultimately sold, I said no I'm going to eat more cocoa, which I got reliable sources for from Brazil em and agreed on that ceremonial cacao from people who work with heart, earth and one with others, I can still buy. And. Great thank you great. Well, that's great. We still have to grow our own food, be self-sufficient. Eh, for what kind of things? Well, this one will probably help, right? Thank you, Boris, for being our guest when you go ee and wait for the next em for the next episode. The third part will follow soon and see you happily.