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Looking for ways to reinvigorate your self-worth or help instill it in others? You're in the right place. Transacting Value Podcast is a weekly, episodic, conversation-styled podcast that instigates self-worth through personal values. We talk about the impacts of personal values on themes like job satisfaction, mitigating burnout, establishing healthy boundaries, enhancing self-worth, and deepening interpersonal relationships.
This is a podcast about increasing satisfaction in life and your pursuit of happiness, increasing mental resilience, and how to actually build awareness around what your values can do for you as you grow through life.
As a divorced Marine with combat and humanitarian deployments, and a long-distanced parent, I've fought my own demons and talked through cultures around the world about their strategies for rebuilding self-worth or shaping perspective. As a 3d Degree Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do and a lifelong martial artist, I have studied philosophy, psychology, history, and humanities to find comprehensive insights to help all of our Ambassadors on the show add value for you, worthy of your time.
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Reframing Identity with Julie Ulstrup: How Photography Reveals Our True Selves
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What if seeing yourself through another lens could completely transform your self-perception? TEDx speaker and professional photographer Julie Ulstrup takes us on a journey exploring how the images we hold of ourselves shape our relationships, career paths, and sense of worth. Julie reveals how photography became her vehicle for helping people literally see themselves in new light. "Nearly 90% of everything that our brain processes in any given moment is visual," she explains, highlighting why a single photograph can trigger profound shifts in self-awareness. From cancer patients rediscovering their vitality during treatment to entrepreneurs stepping into new identities, Julie's work demonstrates the power of visual representation to change our internal narratives.
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Julie Ulstrup:Nearly 90% of everything that our brain processes in any given moment is visual, and so to be able to see a photograph, a physical representation of what you look like and how you show up in the world, is really powerful.
Josh Porthouse:Today on Transacting Value. How you view yourself can directly impact and even dictate how other people see you as well, and today we're talking with TEDx speaker and professional photographer, Julie Allstrip. All about what that means and how to capture somebody in just the right light so that they continue to view themselves in a way they want other people to see themselves as well. Now, without further ado, I'm Josh Porthouse, I'm your host and from SDYT Media, this is Transacting Value, Julie, how are you doing?
Julie Ulstrup:I'm great. How are you, Josh?
Josh Porthouse:I'm doing very well. I appreciate the opportunity to come on and talk and get your perspective. I think you're maybe the second photographer we've ever had on the show, definitely the first with an entire career in education first. Yeah, so I guess my first question, just to sort of set the stage here what does this look like for you? Let's just build some resonance here. Where are you from? What sort of things have shaped your perspective in all of these transitions and what's the why?
Julie Ulstrup:Well, I live in Colorado right now. I was born in LA, so I've had a life where I've moved around a bit, and transformation has always been really exciting for me, changing things up in my own life and my personal life and my professional life. I worked as an educator for 25 years in higher education, in high school and middle school, and loved it until I didn't anymore and it was time for me to do something different and I wanted to create something that would create impact, influence and, of course, income. And I was able to do that as a photographer pretty quickly and pretty lucratively so lucratively, that's maybe not a word, and that doesn't often happen with photographers. With photographers, it's often a race to the bottom in the entrepreneurial world because people are doing it for free. Can I get a cheap this, can I get a Anyway? So I created this campaign to really help people change the way they see themselves and, in turn, change the way they see the world and change the way the world sees them.
Josh Porthouse:Obviously this is intentional, this is deliberate, the way you're posing people, the advice you're giving them, obviously, the insight I think your photos are also going to give them. But what about the nerves, the courage, the I don't know appetite, the drive, the ambition? I'm assuming for some people there's some anxiety too.
Julie Ulstrup:Oh yeah, and any woman probably over the age of 35 being and some men too, but really are terrified to have a photograph taken, terrified to create something that is, I always feel like Mr Papa Giorgio no, not Papa Giorgio, the guy in my big fat Greek wedding, george Portakalis, who always is, you know, it comes from the Greek word Well, portrait comes from the French word portray, and people can be afraid of what we put out in the world and being seen in a much bigger way. So that has been my road to really helping people change the way they see themselves and seeing what they have to offer.
Josh Porthouse:I think people can be afraid, but is that always a problem? Do you think Like to the point where maybe it actually requires change, or is it just something do you think we can learn to accept?
Julie Ulstrup:Is what a problem? What's the question?
Josh Porthouse:Those sort of nerves, that sort of anxiety, that sort of worry about how we come across in the world, that maybe even that degree of awareness is it necessary?
Julie Ulstrup:I think that there are ways to overcome being seen. As you know, sometimes people play small and they think I'm too old, I'm too young, I'm too fat, I'm too thin, my eyes aren't right, my hair's not right. What if I don't choose the right clothes? Am I going to look this way or another? There's that fear of judgment and fear of really showing who we are in the world.
Josh Porthouse:Well, we don't know. I mean, you mentioned transition earlier, 25 years in education to then say, well, maybe I'm not the educator in the same style I was before, maybe I'm not the educator in the same style I was before.
Julie Ulstrup:Yeah, Still some sort of identity shift, absolutely, absolutely. And I've had clients, entrepreneur or whatever it is a financial planner. If they're just starting a career, maybe they haven't seen themselves that way before.
Josh Porthouse:Sure, what do you think it is about the photos that gives people that sense of recognition, gives people that sense of recognition.
Julie Ulstrup:So in the way that I photograph people, I start and I create space for them. So I worked as a school counselor for 20 years, so creating space is something that comes naturally to me, and I ask them a series of questions about who they are. What would your friends you know, what are words your friends would say about you? What about colleagues? And really getting to the core of who that person is is really getting to the core of who they are in the world, much less their role in their business or their family, and when I've done family portraits, which I've also done, it's the same thing. You know, what does your family enjoy together? How would you describe yourself? So really creating a space where people are comfortable being who they are in front of the camera? Because that you're right, it can be terrifying.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Are you familiar with this? Well, I assume maybe you are. But this continuum of emotional intelligence, oh yeah, right, how you either want to come across or how you come across in your own head. To then, how do you come across when it's out of your head, essentially, and how do people receive it right, and then how you manage and control those things as well, I suppose. So, when you're talking that degree of emotional intelligence for somebody, what kind of an impact have you found transitions to have or hold when they involve identity?
Julie Ulstrup:So I do a lot of volunteer work and I photograph women who are going through breast cancer treatment. As one example, and I had a woman tell me that after she wasn't feeling well because of the side effects from chemotherapy and she's a very self-aware woman, she's actually a therapist herself she said she felt like she was dying because of this treatment. The treatment was so hard and she started to choke up when she started to tell this story and she said when I saw these photographs of me looking very much alive, I knew that everything was going to be okay and that I could do this Like. She saw that spark in herself.
Julie Ulstrup:And you know, when you talk about social, emotional learning, a lot of times as adults, as people out in the world entrepreneurs, business people we don't have that opportunity to get reflected back to us who we really are, unless it's a formal review or something like that. So having that really personal experience of so having that really personal experience of having yourself reflected back to you and you can actually see it nearly 90% of everything that our brain processes in any given moment is visual, and so to be able to see a photograph, a physical representation of what you look like and how you show up in the world, is really powerful.
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Julie Ulstrup:And to be able to see a photograph, a physical representation of what you look like and how you show up in the world, is really powerful.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely, absolutely. And the feedback point you just mentioned, I guess it is really hard to come by. I mean professional development, maybe not, like you said, your annual reviews, or, like, in my case, for anybody new to the show and Julie you included most of my career has been in the Marine Corps infantry, and so what that looks like compared to, I don't know, an education system as a teacher or a photographer or any other outlet, has its differences. But one mechanism, one metric where it's very similar is there's not a lot of personal development feedback you're getting at least not with a degree of seriousness, unless you're just giving somebody a hard time or something. But the professional feedback's there.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, run faster, your score's not high enough, do more pull-ups All sorts of measurable things for performance, but not really internally. And I think when you try to pull in or well, in the DOD, department of Defense case, when you actually pull in the majority of your entry-level staff, let's call it, or employee base human capital, at 17 to 22 or 17 to 24 years old, I think that kind of personal feedback can be pivotal 10 years later, 20 years later, when they get out of the DOD.
Julie Ulstrup:Absolutely.
Josh Porthouse:What do you think works to overcome that? Because that deficiency, like you just said, is pretty common Coming out of a workplace or transitioning from one identity, when it's associated directly to your professional role, into a new identity, when your role changes. How do you bridge the gap, how do you address that?
Julie Ulstrup:like you said, it's that awareness, it's that um. And, by the way, my, my son, served as an infantryman in the army, as a ranger, so thank you for your service, especially today.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely and thank him for his.
Julie Ulstrup:As we celebrate the day of this recording. I think, like you said, it takes a real awareness. That I always really appreciated about working as a counselor is being able to give people those tools so when they went out into the world they could reflect back to themselves and say who am I being today? What is my purpose? How am I going forward? What does that look like for me? How is that creating impact and influence in the world?
Josh Porthouse:Go ahead, I was just going to say those are big topics and so when everything seems like, when there's more potential energy in the universe than actually kinetic that you're controlling, there's so many possibilities, what is my purpose really gets outshined more often than not by how do I pay the electric bill. So I think oftentimes all of those considerations can get pushed aside. Like you said, the CEOs, the entrepreneurs, the work-life imbalance type high-functioning people it tends to be more the afterthought than the forethought. So what role do you find photography having in that regard, as a reminder or as an inspiration?
Julie Ulstrup:Or how do you qualify that? Yeah, I think it's both. I think it's a reminder of who we are in this moment, in this present moment. It's a reflection of everything that's brought us to where we are, and it can also be a projection of who we want to become.
Josh Porthouse:So does that mean we all go find I mean professional bias here aside but does that mean we all go find professional photographers on our work, anniversaries, just to catalog? Or how do we complement?
Julie Ulstrup:that. Well, that's one way to do it. I think working with a coach as well is a great way to make sure that your values are aligned your values, my values our values are aligned in what we're doing and how we move forward.
Julie Ulstrup:You know, to your point. You know paying the electric bill and doing all of the things that we need to do in our day-to-day and really connecting with the value of why am I here in the world? What is the work that I'm here to do? You know, I would say this 25 year career that I've had as an educator, this career that I've had as an entrepreneur, a photographer and a coaching consultant I actually coach and consult other businesses really comes down to my basic core values of helping people to become the next best version of themselves, whether that's in a photograph where they can see the next best version of themselves, you know, like I said, literally through a different lens, or in their, their day-to-day habits. You know, you know this from being in the military there are certain things you got to do and if you don't do those things, you're not going to pay the bill.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely.
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Josh Porthouse:Absolutely, absolutely, and even still, though it becomes a sort of indoctrinated way of thinking and viewing the world. Because that's all perspectives, I suppose. Right, it's just, you absorb it from the culture you're most accustomed to in the moment. And so what about when that changes? You know you, you move to a different city, state, a new school, uh, where you spent time in Spain, for example. I think I heard you say, right, well, you spent time in Spain, for example.
Julie Ulstrup:I think I heard you say right, I did. I had a six-month sabbatical in Spain.
Josh Porthouse:That was cool.
Julie Ulstrup:It was really cool and I feel like everything that we do, when we do it purposefully again, whether we're looking forward or reflecting back, you know what is? What did I bring to that experience? Or when I go in with intentional purpose, what is it that I want to bring into this next, you know, chapter of my life?
Josh Porthouse:How do you know? I mean, how do you know what's appropriate, let alone maybe specifically what to bring or who that's going to help create you into in the future? I mean, how do you prioritize any of that?
Julie Ulstrup:You know there's a lot of talk about authenticity, right, but there's also really feeling into and knowing into who you are, who we are individually.
Josh Porthouse:Okay, and how are?
Julie Ulstrup:you going to bring your gifts to any given situation?
Josh Porthouse:Well, sure, that's two different things, I suppose, but probably equal importance. Yeah, what you bring, and then what's the situation? Yeah, absolutely. Well, the awareness, like we mentioned earlier, yes, and so this is actually a good point. I think this is a good point of the show. It's called developing character, d-d-d. Developing character, and Julie, you included as well. Again is it's two questions and my working theory from, I guess you could say, an informally exposed social psychology perspective here, growing up most of my adult life in the Marine Corps infantry. It is limited when it's applied to, well, regular society outside the military, but it's interesting because then, deploying all over the world, the only exposure I got was firsthand, and so it wasn't necessarily through a classroom and it wasn't necessarily through a Zoom screen. It was on foot in villages with a rifle, trying to figure out who to talk to, how to talk to, and and in a lot of those places, obviously the americans are here, we're in uniform, right?
Josh Porthouse:yeah but they don't like us, they didn't want us there. Yeah, is he just going to make it worse? You're drawing attention or whatever reasons we don't want to talk to you. But the more we spoke, the more we realized we do have things in common, like we're both just trying to protect our families and we both have jobs and we're both, you know, filling this sense of service or duty or whatever applied. And so my theory is that values are a shortcut to identity, but also relationship and communication and, all things considered, culture in any environment. And so my two questions yeah, thank you. So my two questions for you, as well as vulnerable as you want to be, but my first is rooted as you were growing up, just for the sake of a baseline what were some of the values you were exposed to or that you maybe were raised on?
Julie Ulstrup:Yeah and I'm happy to share. So I was born in LA and my family moved to Chicago when I was five and family was always still is very important to my parents. My dad is still alive, we have family in Norway and we had family in California. And people say to me they're like, oh, that must have been hard and now I'm a grandparent myself and I felt really close to my grandparents and I think it was that very intentional choice that my parents made. We moved because my dad had a job transfer and then my parents made, you know, we moved because my dad had a job transfer and then, you know, my parents fell in love with the Chicago area, you know. So my dad still lives there, but family was always really important.
Julie Ulstrup:So part of what I grew up exposed to was the huge gift of visiting family in California, visiting family in Norway. That wasn't like a thing that people did when I was growing up. People weren't, you know, like hopping over to Europe, like people hop over to Europe, so. So part of that for me also became this sense of adventure and this sense of, you know, really finding out, like getting to know my cousins, and I was able to hear my dad speaking Norwegian with my grandmother and finding like just really that, listening, you know, listening for understanding body language, you know, and those weren't things I don't think that were ever said to me, but I became very aware of you know people and how we interact with each other and what that looks like and what that means, and and understanding so and again.
Julie Ulstrup:So that led to my career as a counselor. My mom was an educator, you know, working in higher ed. So you know, kind of it all builds on each other and I think if each of us look at our history for better or for worse, like maybe we're like, oh no, I'm not going to be like that because of the way we grew up. Or oh yes, I am going to be like that because I, I appreciate that and I love that about my culture and my heritage.
Josh Porthouse:Whether it's just your own experience or not, you know well, that's a benefit to the awareness you were describing earlier and and then obviously, historically, throughout your lineage, whatever legacy they then provided. I think it helps because it gives you options, not because it gives you a life sentence.
Julie Ulstrup:A hundred percent.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, and I think I guess, now that I'm saying it out loud, you could also translate that to then whatever professional experience you've had up to that point where it doesn't mean that that's who you were or all you were, it's just who you were then. And what can you take to move forward then in the future? Super powerful. So my second question then is so what? What are some of your values now? How has that shifted and changed?
Julie Ulstrup:Well, interestingly, my values now are. One of my biggest values is courageous action. There's a deep awareness for me of courageous coming from the heart, you know, knowing what is in my heart, and I'm a person who I know enough about myself to know that. You know I need to sleep on something overnight. I'm not going to be a person who's going to make a decision right away, but if something really feels like it's the right thing to do, even though it's scary, I'm probably going to do it and I can't give like a you know metrics. If this, then this you walking into a town with a rifle in a you know US serviceman's uniform is different than me walking on the Camino de Santiago. I had an experience where I heard a woman, so I had been there five months and my Spanish was fluent. There were people that thought that I was a European at that point, which made me really happy.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, congratulations.
Julie Ulstrup:Thank you, yeah, and I heard a woman in very, you know, english kind of Spanish Donde esta una restaurante? You know this woman asking, and I went up to her and I asked her. I said can I help you? And she said, oh, I'm looking for a restaurant and I don't speak Spanish very well. She was trying, though, right, she was 70 years old, she was also on a sabbatical, she was a nun from Western Pennsylvania, and so you know that interaction, you know it just made her day a little bit easier finding a restaurant.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, it's interesting. Like we talked about earlier, humanity tends to recognize humanity. I think it's the humility in that process that dictates the outcome. Yeah, and it really can be a powerful shift. But you talk a lot about this, right? You actually have a TED Talk online as well.
Julie Ulstrup:I do yeah.
Josh Porthouse:How to transform the way you see yourself.
Julie Ulstrup:Yes.
Josh Porthouse:Is this a short process? How do we do it? What does that mean? What does it look like? What are your thoughts?
Julie Ulstrup:Well, I had the one example. I've had other women, I mean, I've had high school seniors to see photographs of them. So, yes, it can happen that quickly Now, whether or not it sticks, you know, there are people who literally, they see the photographs that we've created and they cry, they cry because, they've never seen themselves that way.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, pride, because they've never seen themselves that way. Um, but yeah, alrighty, folks sit tight and we'll be right back on.
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Julie Ulstrup:You know, there are people who, literally, they see the photographs that we've created and they cry, they cry because, they've never seen themselves that way yeah.
Josh Porthouse:So then that's when, for example, photos exist. But then what about? Well, as a guidance counselor, for example, working at the school? I'm assuming you said higher education. So what is that? 17, 18 years old to early 20s.
Julie Ulstrup:Yes, actually I worked at the university level. I worked also with grad students and there was even some adult education in there. I was in program development. So but yeah, 24, you know 28.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, so you saw all different phases of identity crises and social pressure, and question and judgment. So then, for example, the earlier groups in terms of age, the younger groups, right of students, professors, maybe the kids where their parents were professors they're all going through the same things, but from a hundred different backgrounds for a hundred different students. So is there a through line, is there a commonality that you could look at and say this is generally how you can work through some of these things. What advice do you have?
Julie Ulstrup:Well, I think it's so individual. I mean there were certainly programs that programs that we would initiate at school level. You know different programs for, um, we had a program for when I was in, when I worked with middle school. I like to say I was in middle school for seven years, I worked in middle school for seven years but, um, you know, I had, I ran, a program that was called girls on the run and it was. I'm also a very athletic person so I liked I gave these young women the opportunity. You know, okay, what would it be like to move your body in a way that you haven't moved it before, and we started walking and then they would, you know, run and you know, and so that can change, that can change the way they see themselves like I can be a runner. In fact, one of the women she was a girl at the time seventh, eighth, ninth, eighth, ninth grade. Now she has daughters who are on the cross country team in their middle school you know so yeah, it can change generationally.
Julie Ulstrup:I used to say you know your question about working with middle schoolers. Middle school can be a really hard time, but I would always lovingly say I loved it. They're like, they're like toddlers because they're just, they have these bodies that kind of look like adults, but they don't really know what to do with them yet. You know, kind of like a puppy even, and they're figuring it all out. So it's a pivotal time and it's a. It's a way to really instill some of those things that they can use in their future.
Josh Porthouse:That's interesting too. You know, metaphorically that saying it takes a village to raise a child, yeah, I think on one hand, right, there's some physical credibility to that, like I need help babysitting or picking the kids up from school or you know whatever, I got to work late, Can you feed them, type stuff. But I think metaphorically it's pretty interesting too, because you start to gain perspective. The more conversations you have, you start to gain insight and whatever how you want to parent or grandparent, and what that role looks like for you as you get older. Do you think to that point your sense of adventure and travel and it sounds like service mindedness or servant leadership, to some capacity to help everybody else. Is that easy to translate? Is that easy to convey intergenerationally now to your kids or, two layers deep, to your grandkids?
Julie Ulstrup:What part are you asking? Is it easy to translate?
Josh Porthouse:Those traits, the passion for those, the impact of those values, the preference for that kind of a perspective on the world and awareness of yourself, all of it, yeah.
Julie Ulstrup:Yes, I don't find it difficult because I'm very intentional. I'm very intentional about the way I am and what I do and what I say and how I interact and communicate with my children my children are adults as well as with my grandchildren. You know supporting them and loving them, and you know like my parents have done. You know we travel together. I travel with my adult children and their spouses and my grandchildren, and so that's part of you. Know that value instead of you know like, not that I don't give them presents. I give them presents, but you know like, instead of inundating them with things, one of my values is experiences and having those experiences and those times together. Will you indulge me in a story about my grandson?
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, absolutely.
Julie Ulstrup:Okay, so, working as a photographer, he plays. He's six years old and he plays football. One of them have three grandsons.
Julie Ulstrup:He's six years old and he plays football and he plays on this team where they live in Colorado. There are several professional athletes. They have dads who are professional athletes, so they're playing flag football and I'm there at the game and I'm, you know, trying to get some pictures of him. I've got my really long ones on my camera and you know, these boys are pretty serious because they're dead, like it's. It's the culture of their family, right like and, and it's the culture of my grandkids family too, like they play sports, but they're, but they're not professional athletes. He sees me in the end zone and he just gives up this big wave Grandma, is that you? He was happy I was there, he wasn't embarrassed. I don't know if he'll remember that in three years, six years, 12 years, but he will have those pictures and he'll know that I was at his games and that I was there for him and that I was cheering him on.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah Well, and it's got to feel good to you too.
Julie Ulstrup:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, that's a fair amount of feedback. You really can't get from anywhere, I assume, other than grandchildren.
Josh Porthouse:True, that's a fair amount of feedback you really can't get from anywhere, I assume, other than grandchildren. True, that's true, yeah. So okay, julie, I really have two more questions for you for the sake of time. And I'm curious, because we've talked about awareness, your self-awareness, your social awareness, these kinds of things as you grow up, or as you've grown up in this case, and then, I guess, a fair amount of the degree of self-control that comes with that how you want to be perceived or how you could be, or how you want to come across in the world. But what does that do for, maybe intrinsically worth, because I don't see self-awareness and self-worth as necessarily the same. How do you view those two? And then my second question is what has it all done for your sense of self-worth then?
Julie Ulstrup:now, so I would say that self-worth is how we define it.
Josh Porthouse:What do you mean?
Julie Ulstrup:Who do we want to be? How do we want to be in the world? We can get to the why we want to be in the world, you know. We can get to the why we want to be that way, but it doesn't. That doesn't really matter. What matters is how we're going to show up, who we're going to be, what we value and for me, my whole life has been based on. I believe that we're here to love and to learn. We're here to learn to love ourselves, have a deeper sense of who we are, and that really defines our own self-worth. Nobody else can define our worth for us. Yeah, and then learning. So we learn about ourselves, we learn about our community. We learn about our environment. We learn what we're good at. We learn what we enjoy doing. We learn how we want to interact with people and what we want that to look like. What do we want our lives to look like?
Josh Porthouse:And that's how we define birth. That, I guess, is probably the most accurately spiritually descriptive answer I can think of for some sense of fulfillment for everybody. Yeah, I mean you, just regardless of anybody's belief system or background. I feel like you just summed it up 350, some odd million ways for everybody in the United States to say now I get it.
Julie Ulstrup:Oh, good, well, that was easy, that was easy for me that was easy, well done, yeah, yeah.
Josh Porthouse:And then the love that comes with that, I think maybe stems from the understanding and the empathy that that process can bring. I don't know if it's necessarily as readily apparent, but yeah, photography business as a startup I'm assuming, not a franchise and then building it to what it is, yeah. What has that done for you and your self-worth then?
Julie Ulstrup:Yeah, so it's been incredible, and what it's helped me to realize is that I have this. My experience has been that educators often believe that staying in this box is the best place to stay. And we're going to stay here for 20 years and we're going to retire, and we're going to get our retirement and then maybe we'll do another job and it'll be okay.
Julie Ulstrup:And a lot of times, you know, stay in on the treadmill. I've heard people in the military get to that point as well and what I realized is there's so much more that ways that we can have impact and influence and have income. This story that I had been fed and that a lot of people I believe still in education still believe is um, you know that this is, this is where I am. I've reached a certain point that this is where I need to say I can't do anything else, I won't make this. You know all these stories that people tell themselves and it's not true. It's not true that's interesting too.
Josh Porthouse:Photography, I think, provides a unique opportunity to show potential yeah, or art in, maybe to show potential to hundreds of millions of different perspectives and communicate it in a way that makes sense, without limiting beliefs, without bias and facade, but the subjective interpretation is still there. I think, not for nothing, that you've chosen a ridiculously powerful profession as a result of your experience, and I'm, for one, glad you're doing something positive with that kind of authority. So, yeah, thank you for finding your calling, I guess, and then obviously also for coming on the show. I really appreciate your time.
Julie Ulstrup:It's been such a pleasure, thank you. Thank you for the thoughtful conversation and it's been great.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely. Thanks for saying that. Now to that point. If anybody wants to find out more about your photography or purchase prints, or maybe they want to be a client, where do people go? Or your TED Talk, for that matter.
Julie Ulstrup:So my TED Talk is on my website. It's also, you know, looking up my name, Julie Ulstrup TED Talk. Right now. The best way to connect with me would be on LinkedIn and you can look up Julie Allstrup. I also have a YouTube channel that is actually Educator to Entrepreneur TV and I work with educators. It's interesting. I've created that 360 degrees of okay, let's get into really seeing your brilliance and how you want to show up in the world and what does that look like?
Josh Porthouse:That is going to be pretty interesting. I'm going to track it down and for anybody listening to this conversation who wants to as well, if you, depending on the player, you're streaming this conversation on. If you click see more. If you click show more, there's a drop down description for this conversation in there. You'll also see links then to Julie's LinkedIn and this really cool concept Educator to Entrepreneur TV on YouTube. Both of those links will be in the description so you guys can get there as well. But again, julie, awesome, awesome opportunity to get to know you and talk to you a little bit and showcase your perspective in a different medium than your camera can. So I really value the opportunity. Thank you again for your time.
Julie Ulstrup:Thank you so much, josh, I appreciate it.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely, to everybody else who's tuned in and listening to the conversation. Thank you guys for listening to everything that Julie had to say, and obviously you can find out more on YouTube with her TED Talk. But what you've gotten out of this conversation, what you've gotten out of this show, you can find more of our conversations at our website, at transacting value podcastcom. You can also go to the homepage and on the right hand side of the screen right around here on my video feed, you can click, leave a voicemail and you get two minutes. It's audio. Whatever your feedback is, your appreciation, your gratitude, your advice and, especially if it's for Julie, make sure you mention the episode and we'll forward it to her and she can get your feedback that way as well, because, like we said, feedback is invaluable. But it takes a village to raise children and we're basically just all older kids. So, anyway, thank you guys for tuning in, listening to the show and make sure to follow along with us on Facebook, on LinkedIn and on YouTube. But until next time, that was Transacting Value. Thank you to our show partners and folks. Thank you for tuning in and appreciating our value as we all grow through life together, to check out our other conversations or even to contribute through feedback follows time, money or talent and to let us know what you think of the show. Please leave a review on our website, transactingvaluepodcastcom.
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