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Have you ever felt that inexplicable urge to avoid a certain path, or heard that quiet voice warning you of danger? According to spiritual advisor and clairvoyant Sallyann Martinez, those moments aren't random coincidences—they're your guardian angels communicating directly with you. In this enlightening conversation, Sallyann shares her remarkable 40-year journey as an empath and spiritual guide where she discusses how stress and modern lifestyles create barriers to spiritual connection.
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The views expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcast host and guest and do not necessarily represent those of our distribution partners, supporting business relationships or supported audience. Welcome to Transacting Value, where we talk about practical applications for instigating self-worth when dealing with each other and even within ourselves, where we foster a podcast listening experience that lets you hear the power of a value system for managing burnout, establishing boundaries, fostering community and finding identity. My name is Josh Porthouse, I'm your host and we are redefining sovereignty of character. This is why values still hold value. This is Transacting Value.
Sallyann Martinez:Find your gratitude for today, and it doesn't have to be like catastrophic. It could just be oh my gosh, I found my favorite pencil right. Or oh, this apple tastes so good. And when you can bring these positive things into your mind, they stick.
Josh Porthouse:Today on Transacting Value. Everybody has a guardian angel that looks after them, that takes care of them, that sometimes they assume they can talk to and figure out how to build any degree of identity, mitigate any amount of stress or anxiety or manage chaos. But can you actually communicate with guardian angels? Spiritual advisor and clairvoyant who helps people heal without medication? She's a holistic healer named Sally Ann Martinez and we're talking to her today on the show. I'm Josh Porthouse, I'm your host and from SDYT Media. This is Transacting Value. Sally Ann, how you doing?
Sallyann Martinez:Hey, hey, hey, better and better. How are you?
Josh Porthouse:I'm doing well. Thank you, I appreciate your personality. You seem really happy. Is this normal, or is this a cup of coffee in the evening? What's your?
Sallyann Martinez:Yeah, no, yeah, this is normal. This is normal, me Matter of fact. I was just talking to some friends and they were talking about you know, we were talking about alcohol. We're old, we talk about alcohol and they just laugh because they're like, really, you don't drink and I'm like, no, not really, and that's what I say. Can you imagine this, like on alcohol or like we don't need?
Josh Porthouse:that.
Sallyann Martinez:No, oh you, you don't really drink coffee either you know, okay, it's more of the ritual, like I love the coffee or tea and sitting and communicating with people. So I will say I'm not addicted to coffee. You know I have some. You know I'll have a cup of coffee, maybe in the morning or some tea, but yeah, no, not really. It also gets in the way of the work, so I don't drink a lot of caffeine.
Josh Porthouse:You do these advising sessions full-time.
Sallyann Martinez:Yes, yes, Well, private sessions, workshops. I'm a guest speaker, so I'll go out to events. But yeah, I retired from the corporate world about eight years ago and this is what I do full-time now.
Josh Porthouse:So let's start there, then, because I have to believe it takes a pretty special perspective to do what you're doing. I mean just to manage a commission-oriented job, an entrepreneur in a practical sense, on top of however many other I don't know voices or influences you're sorting through on a daily basis. So let's start here for a second In the next couple minutes. Who are you? Where are you from? Right, let's get some resonance. But what sort of things are shaping your perspective on life as it applies to these things?
Sallyann Martinez:I have been gifted this perspective. I've been using it for over 40 years. When I was in my 20s, I actually had like this moment. I was in college, right Hanging out with my friends, and really looked across the room and felt another person's I'm going to call it pain, right, because pain comes in different ways and I kind of like freaked out. I didn't know what was happening and you know I tell the story. I ran home to my dorm room because it was before cell phones, and called my mother and I was like okay, I know, because you know I'm 19 years old, I know all I'm, I know that I'm having a nervous breakdown. You need to get up here and pick me up from college. And I don't know what's happening.
Sallyann Martinez:Blah, blah, blah, blah and uh, this was serious uh, serious, like I hate to say serious as a heart attack. But yes, I did not understand what was happening to me and I I knew authentically I'm a happy person. You said it. That's exactly who I am. I'm happy, I see the good part of life. But you know, I mean stuff happens, life happens, but it's how I look at things. I'm just really upbeat and I looked across the room and there was a man who was standing in a very strange position, like a position I wouldn't stand in. I think his arm was up, I don't really remember.
Sallyann Martinez:But I remember how I felt and it was sad and despondent and things that I knew I didn't feel and so that's what kind of like, you know, kind of wigged me out. It was a surprise to what I knew I was feeling, but that I also knew that somehow it didn't belong to me. But I didn't understand that at the time. And you know, my mom, take a chill pill, calm down, tell me what's going on. We're New Yorkers, right? So we're Brooklyn New Yorkers, italian Brooklyn, new Yorkers. So we kind of get to the point and my mother's like all right, what's the deal? So I told her what I was feeling, told her that little story and she was like you're fine, I'm like what? So she said you're just psychic.
Sallyann Martinez:And honestly, josh, I didn't know that word. I wasn't brought up with that word. I didn't understand that it was different. Yes, my grandmother would say I had a dream about you and this is going to happen, and don't do that. And you know, you're 18 years old, you go out, it happened. You did what grandma told you not to do. You go home or you see her again, she smacks you on the top of the head, says don't do it again. And you know, three days later she tells you something else and then it happens. I didn't know that other people didn't have that life right. You only know what you know.
Sallyann Martinez:And at 20 years old, my mother, telling me I'm psychic, didn't under. I didn't understand that word. Um, and you know now, really I'm an empath. I started as an empath. I'm still an empath, my kids are empaths. Um, it's become a little more mainstream, like we've kind of caught up. And then I got right into training. Like literally within a month of this happened. I went into this amazing training program that you know the universe is always working in your favor. So it kind of showed up and I walked through that door and haven't looked back since because everything really resonated with me and it's just like how I live my life.
Josh Porthouse:So this kind of magnetism, natural attraction, I guess, to these kinds of things. I mean, these are like folk stories, you know, these are like superstitions, this sort of uh fringe science, I guess. In some circles, empathy is not, though, right. So where's why is the line, seems, so blurry between a practical application of empathy, for example, and a practical application of then acting on some sort of intuition or this sort of empath qualifier? You're?
Sallyann Martinez:describing. Put electrodes on my head and you tested my brainwave patterns. I can change my brainwave patterns because my brainwave patterns is what the science of it is that I changed my brainwave patterns so I can talk to spirit, so I can talk to your guardian angels, and I can, for me, right, different clairvoyants have different gifts. See it, feel it, smell it, hear it. Right, my guardian angels, talk to me. Your guardian angels, if you give me permission, talk to me, show me pictures. I describe what I see, and it's a scientific thing. But the world is afraid of what they don't know.
Sallyann Martinez:Right, old wives, old wives, tales on healing. Right, put honey on a wound so it doesn't get infected. No one would ever do that these days, but you can do that and it won't get infected. Look, I'm not a medical doctor. Don't take this as medical advice, right? But there are lots of things that we know work. But because, for some reason, the world has turned into this, give me a pill and make a better world. Um, because that's what I believe in. I believe in this pill instead of believing in putting chopped onions on the bottom of your feet to bring down a fever. Right, it's okay.
Sallyann Martinez:It's just how the world works, but scientifically, I am changing my brainwave patterns and we do it. All of us do it as humans. I've just learned how to do it on command. Cool, so is that?
Josh Porthouse:more what you're, I guess, is that more what you're, I guess, describing? When I'm saying, for example, empathy is not sympathy, right, I understand how you're feeling because I've been there, not because I've seen or heard it secondhand, I think is the delineation there. So when I'm saying empathy, is this what you're describing? But to me it's by chance, to you it's a conscious sort of effort.
Sallyann Martinez:Have you ever had a moment when you didn't want to get on a plane or you didn't want to go into a room, or you knew you should call someone, okay, okay. So I call those angel whispers that's what I believe like your guardian angels are telling you don't get up or be present and be conscious of what's happening around you. So I'm not sure if I'd call that empathy, but I'd call it more awareness, more about being present For me. Yeah, I see my guardian angel. He says do that. And I go, okay, and it always works out right.
Sallyann Martinez:Like I have evolved in my life to be more, I'm going to say faithful, right, and not religious faithful, but faithful in source and universe and universe and things that I just know, because every single day, every single day, I get proof and so that's part of it. Maybe I'm more empathetic to myself, right, because that's part of it. You may get that angel message. You may get part of it. You may get that angel message you may get don't go to the right, don't go into that door right now, and you go no, no, I'm being ridiculous, that's crazy. And you go in and something not great happens, right. That's just not having faith in yourself, not believing in what you hear or what you feel and that's part of the world too, that a lot of the world does that. But we have free choice, we have free will, so we get to decide.
Josh Porthouse:All right, folks sit tight and we'll be right back on Transacting Value.
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Sallyann Martinez:Where values start in the home. That's just not having faith in yourself, not believing in what you hear or what you feel, and that's part of the world too, that a lot of the world does that. But we have free choice, we have free will, so we get to decide.
Josh Porthouse:Okay. So let me ask you that then, Not having faith in you, not trusting in yourself? Right, the intuition, the instinct, the whatever we want to call it right? You are identifying all of these other inputs. You're identifying all of these other experiences that it sounds like necessarily aren't even all yours, let alone understand where they came from. And so how does that help you trust you? And what you're hearing may not even apply to you.
Sallyann Martinez:So I'm very purposeful. Have you ever heard of the Long Island Medium, teresa Caputo? There are other I'm going to call them psychics I don't prefer that word, but there's other psychics or people that will walk by and they've done it to me all the time. They'll be like I need to talk to you. I'm like, okay, what's up? Right, when I first got the gift, and actually actually I'll tell you the reason why I changed the gift. Right, cause I can. I chose the life I have.
Sallyann Martinez:I was an advertising girl in New York city, um, and you can manage the noise in New York city, right, the spiritual noise. And I used to travel all the time and I remember I was looking back, flying in, just got into JFK and I'm walking home, I'm walking to baggage claim, I'm going to leave, and I can hear it. I hear it in airports, I hear it in hospitals, I hear it in big spaces, but I hear he knows we're here. I can hear. So imagine that that there's 5,000 people around you, that you can hear them saying she knows we're here. Right, because I can feel energy anywhere I go and one spirit kept coming next to me and I remember I stopped in the middle right, we're all 300 people are getting off the plane. Well, I'm two gates away from getting off the plane, there's hordes of people. And I remember I stopped and I just looked at him and I said what, what do you want? And he said second gate. Second gate, right-hand side. Now, in the olden days, jfk, they actually had gates in airports. It wasn't one big room, you actually. You know, it was like a U-shaped room and that was your gate. Second gate he goes yellow book, yellow sweater, yellow book, yellow sweater. I'm like fine, yellow book, yellow sweater.
Sallyann Martinez:I go to the second gate and there is a woman in a yellow sweater reading a book with a yellow cover. I said okay. I walked up to her, I said I know this is weird, but did your uncle Fred just die like within two months ago? And she looked at me, said yeah. I said okay, he wants you to know. Whatever the message is, I don't remember, it's not for me to know and I said does that make sense to you? She said yeah. I said okay, thank you very much, and I took off. Right, that was my moment, josh, when I said I am not serving the dead, I am serving the living. Now, that was my moment when I said what if she was on her way to a business meeting? I just messed with her head.
Sallyann Martinez:You know all those things that feel like responsibility, because what I do is a huge responsibility. And so I said I'm not doing that anymore. So I people have to come to me and say, sally Ann, I want you to work with me, I want you to help me figure out where I'm going with life, if I'm on the right path. You know what's my health situation. So people come to me and then I will work with them. Um, because I feel like that's what I'm supposed to do, is help people have their best life. Because, look, your guardian angels are here not to mess with you. Your guardian angels are here to live through that life. And so with that, I turn it off and I turn it on.
Sallyann Martinez:I don't live every single moment in this space, right In theta it's brainwaves theta.
Sallyann Martinez:I don't live there all the time because that's how I can lose myself.
Sallyann Martinez:Right.
Sallyann Martinez:Being in heaven all the time is a fantastic thing. I can work six, eight hours and the only thing like I'll come out of the office. I have a healing space after working six or eight clients in a day and the only thing is is like I'll come out of the office I have a healing space after working six or eight clients in a day and the only thing is is like I'll be like, oh, my throat's a little sore, that's right. I've been talking for eight hours, right. But it fills me with love and joy and there is no pain because I around my love and joy.
Sallyann Martinez:So I um can't really lose myself because I keep checking in with myself. I mean, every day I check in and the people that I talk with I don't remember. It's not for me to remember. I always tell all of my clients record the session, write the notes you know, bring someone if you need to, because this is about them, and I won't remember. I am just your telephone to your connection to help you translate what's happening in your life and to get the messages you need. Does that make sense?
Josh Porthouse:I mean, yeah, sort of. But what I'm picturing is like is like walking into the perfume aisle in the department store and there's all these scents everywhere and I'm like I walk out of there and I'm just overstimulated and I need coffee, beans, the ground, and then I can go about my shopping experience. You know what I mean. Am I close? I mean, is that even remotely accurate?
Sallyann Martinez:I get a lot of it for a lot of people.
Josh Porthouse:And.
Sallyann Martinez:I I tell you that I'll sit with a client and they may have 20 people with 20 spirit around them. Right, I can divide. I guess I can divide and conquer kind of thing I can commute. It's like when you're in a party, right?
Sallyann Martinez:yeah if you're at a party and one person catches your attention and you're sitting and you're at a party, right yeah, if you're at a party and one person catches your attention and you're sitting and you're having a conversation with that one person, there might be other people that add in a little bit, but you're really focused on that one person. So that's how it works for me. Other spirit may choose to come in and give me a little bit, but I am focused on the overall message of what I'm hearing, the person in front of me. There everyone has about three guardian angels.
Josh Porthouse:So, yeah, typically it all kind of flows together, so it's not typically overwhelming because they take their turns Well that's convenient, yeah, and there's all sorts of, I think, instances where people throughout life have a call it, a misalignment between whatever their roles are in society and then how they view themselves and their identity. Right, it happens all the time. You get fired from your job You're like, well, I don't know what I'm going to do next, and then maybe you get into this depression or whatever, because that is out of alignment, roles and identities. You go to a new school You're like, well, this is uncomfortable. Why is it uncomfortable? It's still just kids, it's all still your, you know whatever, but it's new, it's unfamiliar Roles and identities, right, mis.
Josh Porthouse:So there was a time when I was a kid, remember we were at a place, uh, in florida, uh, nature park, nature preserve, basically, and I don't remember why. I just remember the adults. I was little, I mean, like in size and young in age, right, and so I'm running super fast. In hindsight probably wasn't going that far or that fast, but I I remember the adults were behind us and I remember thinking that our like the grill, you know the metal grill on like a pole at some picnic spaces or whatever. Okay, so I could see it. Um, but between me and that grill was this concrete retaining wall corner of the lake and it was covered in grass. At the bottom of the retaining wall it was all covered in grass. And I consciously remember thinking I can totally beat everybody back to the grill if I just cut across the corner and I'll run right across the grass and they're all going to walk around the corner.
Josh Porthouse:And I took I couldn't. I wish I had a way to take the image that's in my head from what I remember and show it to you right now. But I took one step towards the edge of the retaining wall and I saw two eyes and two nostrils. It was a gator head sunk down. It wasn't grass, it was algae, oh my god. And it was water, not solid, and I turned, I took one step and right before I saw that move, I said and the only thing I heard was my dad who at some point prior to that moment in my life happened to just say or at least it was his voice that happened to say don't cut corners.
Josh Porthouse:And I'm sure it was not at all meant to be literal, but in that moment I took one step, I heard don't cut corners. And then this gator dropped under the water and I was like Whoa, what just happened? And everything, just like you know, reset in my perspective and I walked the rest of the way back to the grill. Do you have moments like that? I mean, helping other people is one thing, but you in your own life?
Sallyann Martinez:You know, when I first realized that I could do that or have this gift, I doubted it because I kept hearing my own mind, I kept hearing my own voice and I would ask for a sign Okay, prove it to me, prove it to me. Prove it to me, I'm a big feather girl, right, prove that I'm right. And one day I heard something in my mind, right, and I said, huh, still my voice. I still recognized it, like you recognized your dad's right. And I said but I don't know that. I know, I don't know that information and that kind of like this pivot to say I need to listen. It proved to me that there's something else here that is helping guide me or keeping me safe. So I get it. It happens often.
Josh Porthouse:Well, especially in your case, I'm not that surprised. Let me get your opinion on this. Actually, do you think that if it's common for everybody which I think is I'm paraphrasing from the beginning of this conversation but if it's common for everybody, there's just a lack of, or a degree of a lack of awareness? Let's call it. Is it circumstantial to the pace of our life? We're not as present to pay attention to these cues, to these triggers, to these I don't know intuitions, because we're so focused on the future or the past, not the present, that we miss some of these things.
Sallyann Martinez:I think that's an excellent question. I think it is circumstantial and I'll tell you why. I don't read small children. I don't need to talk to their guardian angels. If parents come in and say, tell me about little Tommy, don't need to talk to their guardian angels. If parents come in say, tell me about little tommy, typically I don't need to talk to them about anyone over under like 12 or 13, unless there's you know something that, like humans are getting in the way and there's you know there's harm. Um, but do you have children by any chance? I do, yeah, okay, how old are they?
Josh Porthouse:Ten Okay.
Sallyann Martinez:So and it's funny because Irish people believe this the Catholic Church changed some things, but they call it the age of reason. Until they're about seven we get into the age of reason. I've heard that, right, you've heard that, okay. So the really interesting thing is, I don't know if your children have ever had imaginary friends or have had like these conversations and these tea parties and nobody's there. The reality is is that when you're young, you see your guardian angels, you know they're present, they're right there, you it. I actually have photos of like some really interesting and amazing photos that um, of people that I trust there, where you can see like spirit with denim on and some other. But, um, basically what happens is when you're young, you don't know any different, right? You know that they're there, you know they're present. About five or six that's when kids, like, start to bite or get aggressive because they go through massive anxiety because all of a sudden, their invisible friends or guardian angels they can't see anymore. So, um, and then by nine, you typically become too human and you forget your guardian angels or you don't see them as present, right, because it's not something we talk about with our kids. We don't say are your angels with you, are you feeling comfortable and protected and know that they're there? Or you know even some kids, when they have invisible friends, parents or guardians say, no, you don't really see that because they're trying to protect us from the world, right? Not because they're trying to be mean, but the reality is our children see them. I will trust a four-year-old's point of view on someone over anything else because they can see who they really are. So a lot of times you'll hear that people become into their psychic gift more, like in that 20, 21 year old, and I think it becomes a time where you get to feel safe. So for me, right, I went into training, I went after it, I wanted to understand what was happening to me because it was part of my family, my heritage. But everyone has the gift. It just depends if you listen. And, um, have you heard that? Your stomach is your second brain? Have you heard that, right? So I always say are you paying attention? You can't see me, but I'm touching, like right above my belly button, which is a chakra center about, um, it's solar plexus. So, do I love myself? Do I trust myself? Do I believe myself? That's where that center is. So I say your message, your guardian angel whisper, comes from your third eye, right, your brain and your other brain helps us trust it. So sometimes, yeah, it's definitely like circumstantial. Like you hear, stop before you walk into a street and, oh my gosh, the bus just went by past the red light, right? Yeah? Yeah, you're not supposed to leave that and and sometimes the messages just come. So this way they're comforting. It's so funny.
Sallyann Martinez:I have a really good friend and I. She got a puppy and I saw this black and white dog. I knew her puppy was Charlie. It was a black and white dog, black and white dog, black and white dog, black and white dog. When she was in this house I do work in that house because there's lots of spirit hanging out there. She moved to Atlanta. I go to visit her in Atlanta and this dog comes running up to me.
Sallyann Martinez:Moved to Atlanta, I go to visit her in Atlanta and this dog comes running up to me. It's a white poodle. I looked at her and I was like who's this? She goes, it's Charlie. She's like. You've known Charlie since he's eight weeks old. Charlie's black and white. She looked at me. She's like no, I'm like holy guacamoles. Okay, I knew there was a dog spirit in the other house. He was black and white. I saw black and white all the time when I was talking to Charlie. I thought it was a black and white dog. He is not a black and white dog, he is a white, fluffy poodle. So you know, being aware of certain things or listening in a different way can help you connect.
Josh Porthouse:Alrighty, folks, sit tight and we'll be right back on Transacting Value. Join us for Transacting Value, where we discuss practical applications of personal values, every Monday at 9 am on our website, transactingvaluepodcastcom. Wednesdays at 5 pm and Sundays at noon on reedsacrossamericaorg slash radio at 5 pm and Sundays at noon on wreathsacrossamericaorg slash radio.
Sallyann Martinez:You know, being aware of certain things or listening in a different way can help you connect.
Josh Porthouse:Interesting, okay. Well, what impact do you think talking about helping you connect, let's just say, with corporeal people or on any sort of spiritual relation? Either case, what impact does a high stress environment have on that? I would say occupationally, because stress throws everything out of whack and misaligns everything you know know, chemically, hormonally, whatever, and obviously in I think, two different circumstances. One, you become super hyper aware and present, which I think is just as much a tunnel vision as it is when you're totally oblivious. So what impact does high stress have on this kind of awareness or ability to connect with people, in your opinion?
Sallyann Martinez:I think that you know when we're stressed we go into fight or flight, right, um? And you really have a choice. Where are you going? Am I gonna fight? Because I don't understand this. So I'm going to be. I'm going to fight everything that comes at me. Or I'm going to be I'm going to fight everything that comes at me, or I'm going to need to understand it. I need to understand it before I can accept it, or I hide away and and choose not to understand it.
Sallyann Martinez:I think that when you have high stress, it's really hard to connect. I think it's hard. That's why the world says do yoga, have meditation, go to your spiritual center, find a friend, right, it's all these ways of reconnecting, changing your brainwave patterns and reconnecting because stress is so prevalent. So how do you pull those moments down? You know, personally I had, like this health scare November 1st, wound up in the hospital for a day, and I was like what am I doing here? And the doctor's, like you're too stressed. I'm like I think I take care of myself. I know, okay, maybe I haven't been meditating as much and I haven't been giving myself enough Reiki, but I'm getting massages and I'm really busy and I'm very scheduled. And he looked at me and he's like pull up your calendar. So I showed him a week and he was like okay, this is your stress.
Sallyann Martinez:You are bouncing from Scottsdale to Phoenix, to Anthem. You're scheduled by the hour. Where do you eat in here? Where do you go to the bathroom in here? And I'm like, um, where I can squeeze it? He's like, no, that's it. So him and my husband ganged up on me. They're like no more than three things in a day. I'm like, okay, I'll try, right. But the reason is that while I was getting very, very good with my clients and having like, felt like I was even more connected, um, my humanness was suffering from stress. So for me, because this is what I do for a living, this is how I connect, this is how I fill my bucket, um, the gift got better, I think. Um, but the humanist did not like. So I needed to I'm going to say, be more present. I needed to be more of yin and yang.
Josh Porthouse:I needed to accept the beach instead of just being in the spiritual world it's pretty interesting too, because, I don't know, it's also kind of refreshing to think that boundaries are such a a physical or mental, you know corporeal type construct, but it's all still got to be in harmony, no matter what sort of dimension or plane your thoughts are on that day. Um, so that's that's refreshing, I guess, to know that it's sort of a cosmic constant that you may as well figure it out. Now, you know, I feel like there's so many different lessons that I don't know just fly through the cosmos and impact us in any certain dimension. Right, qualify that how you want. But that the more aware we become in 80 to 100 years for most of us on the earth, we all seem to grasp the importance, the relevance, the resonance of basically all the same fundamental type lessons, boundaries, for example, being one of them. So I'm curious, all of these experiences, boundaries, for example, being one of them. So I'm curious, all of these experiences, though in my opinion, for anybody, whoever that person is, have to come from somewhere. I mean, it took you almost 20 years to actually sort of tap in and feel present and comfortable and confident enough to accept and interpret. Well, right, so maybe expressly explicitly, it came from your mom at that point in time, but there's got to be something before that. I mean, you mentioned genetics at one point, so this is a segment of the show called Developing Character D-D-D-Developing Character.
Josh Porthouse:It's two questions. The answers are entirely as vulnerable as you want to be, but here's why I'm asking. Here's what it's about. My theory is that values are a shortcut to identity and they are a grounding mechanism for our identities whenever we're out of misalignment or what's the word? Misharmony, unharmonious and so in those moments, in those opportunities to at least be able to focus on some grounding mechanism, like a value system, to go from a whatever catalyst cognitively into a more progressive or proactive behavior for ourselves. We can then work through wherever we're stuck. But I don't think you can teach all of that. Some of it we pick up on innately until we're able to interpret it. And so my two questions are about values and they're separated by time. My first question is what were some of the values that you remember being raised on or actually taught when you were growing up? And my second question is, assuming they've changed because of your experiences, what are some of your values now?
Sallyann Martinez:I'm an Italian from New York City right I am. My parents. My grandparents came over on the boat. Right we are. My mother is a first generation. I was the first one in my family to go to college, and so family has always been my value. I was brought up that way. We went to my grandparents every Sunday. We always sat down for dinner together, even if my dad didn't come home till 7 pm at night. So that's a value that actually I still keep Sunday and Monday night. My two adult children, 24 and 29, we have dinner together, and when they were growing up and my husband was traveling a lot, the three of us would sit down and have dinner together. Didn't matter if Alex was coming home from football or Grace was coming home from lacrosse or it was seven 30 at night. We're sitting down, we're having dinner, then you can take showers and do your homework and go to sleep, right. So family is still a big value for me and the closeness of family.
Sallyann Martinez:Um, I was also brought up in a very I won't say very religious, but in a religious environment, like my mother would argue with the priest like why is this? Why is that right? So I kind of love that he's like a bigger thinker. And so, while I will say I'm not as religious sometimes I joke and say I'm cath light or recovering Roman Catholic I still believe in and I believe in God. I use that word People like source. Universe still all means the same thing to me. Right, it's a higher power that helps us go forth. And so I still believe in being good to your neighbor, even if it's maybe monetarily doesn't work out for me, maybe monetarily doesn't work out for me.
Sallyann Martinez:Um, I still believe in volunteering. I am very philanthropic. It's important to me, it's important. I make sure it's important to my children, it's important to the people I hang out with. Um, I don't, I don't fear God. Matter of fact, I was. I was fired by the Catholic church because of what I did and they I was working for a church bringing in a theater program right after COVID. And I don't really tell people what I do, unless someone asked me very pointedly specifically. Otherwise I'm like oh yeah, I'm just like an advisor and I just don't tell people what I do. I am who, I am like me for me, not for what I do. And I used to be in the corporate world, was a big marketer, huge events, things like that, and so I must have sent an email from my phone and had my footer on it and I got a call and they were very upset that what I did was against like Catholic doctrine or something.
Sallyann Martinez:And they wrote me this whole big thing. And if I want you to hang out with the priest, not hang out, but you know they want to convert me.
Sallyann Martinez:So I started laughing and I was like I'll meet with your priest. But yeah, you're right, I don't fear God. Sorry, I don't. He talks to me almost every day. I know that what I get is for me to be a good person. I still authentically believe be kind, because if you can be anything in the world, be kind, be good person next to you and, you know, try and live a good life Like so. I still believe in those things. I just I don't fear the man upstairs where, um, I guess that's a big thing in the Catholic church. I never really realized that, but it is, you know fire and brimstone.
Sallyann Martinez:But I used to say, and um, I don't think that that person, I don't think that source is that way. I think source gives us a lot of choices. Um, but when you fear something, you don't question it. You also don't get close to it, right, like if someone feared you wouldn't want to have coffee with you, but you, you know what's the old adage you get more you get you get more vinegar or something Right.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, sure, yep, yeah, yeah, that that is a good point. Um, there's, there's a lot of things, I think, that get rooted in fear. You know, religiously or otherwise, but I mean, we talked about kids earlier, even yours, right, 29 years old. Now, 24 years old now there's still things they're learning and don't know right. And so when you tell them, don't do fill in the blank, whatever it is or I wouldn't do that if I were you or however you phrase it right A lot of that probably is coupled with think about the repercussions, think Right.
Josh Porthouse:A lot of that probably is coupled with think about the repercussions, think about what it's going to do to your future. I'm not going to tell you, don't? You're an adult, but you know. And a lot of that, I think, is rooted in some degree of fear because it's still unknown and it it gives a sort of an easy scapegoat for discernment. I think it's an easy scapegoat for discernment to stand on fear because it is a pretty powerful motivator. But I think it's an easy scapegoat for discernment to stand on fear, because it is a pretty powerful motivator.
Josh Porthouse:But I think to your point so is free will, so is hope. I mean, the entire Green Lantern Corps is founded on it in the Marvel universe. You know so or I don't know, whatever, maybe it's DC, I mix them all up, but the point is still the same, right, like there's so much science fiction, even rooted in that, over generations, that hope can overcome fear. Understanding, competency, confidence, helping your neighbor, philanthropic endeavors Every superhero is a philanthropist, right. So, like we said, all of these sort of cosmic lessons, generationally, intergenerationally, cross-generationally that people tend to figure out without ever having talked to each other, there's got to be some truth to it absolutely.
Sallyann Martinez:Gratitude is a scientifically proven emotion. Um and uh, I actually wrote a gratitude journal that's based on different centers of your system, but scientifically there are 50, 100 studies more than that out there about how your brains and how we look at life differently right, how we understand the gratitude that we have in our life can change our life Like it really can. I mean, and it's you know, what I would really encourage everybody to do is find your gratitude for today, and it doesn't have to be like catastrophic. It could just be oh my gosh, I found my favorite pencil right. Or, oh, this apple tastes so good. And when you can bring these positive things into your mind, they stick All of a sudden you have more good things in there than dang another red light.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely, and that's something that's strange too. In the last couple of minutes we've got, I guess that's something that's strange. Strange too, because negativity and pessimism drive ratings in broadcast media and that's what gets attention right. Not everybody is turned on by those topics and so you have a million, 2 million people watching any given news station a month. Let's say Okay, at least in the United States. What happens to the 330 million other people then if they're not watching it? You know what I mean. There's still way more people that find appeal consciously, wittingly, unwittingly or subconsciously in these types of positive interactions and see a benefit at least individually. And so I think it's interesting that if everybody call it 330 million, people find resonance and positivity that it still doesn't have a larger footprint, let's say at least in broadcast media or public discourse or open conversation at a coffee shop. It's strange, I think.
Sallyann Martinez:It is. But I'm also going to tell you that there's been the earth has gone through this big shift. To tell you that there's been the earth has gone through this big shift, and so I'm going to tell you that in a year and a half from this conversation, I want you to revisit what you just said, because by in two years, the world's going to change. It will get kinder and gentler.
Sallyann Martinez:I thought it would happen within six months, but some of the recent events have pushed it back a little. Um, some of the recent events have pushed it back a little, but, um, when there's things that we don't understand, we go into fear. Um, the world will settle. The energy in the world will calm us all down. We'll be able to get better grounded, to find ourselves to um, to understand the world around us a little more and stop being in that fight or flight space of, of hiding and and understanding, and the world will change. I see it over and over and over again. Every time I go to focus it shows up. So I'm having the faith and the hope, like the green lantern, um, that the world would change.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, well, that is powerful. And so let me ask you this then, one more time, I guess in the last couple of minutes, to go from macro to micro, talking about the world changing what have all of these influences actually done for you and your sense of self and instigating your self-worth, having lived through all of these things the last you know, four or five decades?
Sallyann Martinez:I think for me how it's helped me. I'm definitely more independent, I'm stronger. I think I have more of a voice. I think a lot of my naivety from when I was younger and trying to make other people happy because that's where I filled my bucket I think it has changed so that I understand that it's really up to other people.
Sallyann Martinez:I'm such a big believer in free will that I will. I'll do just about anything for you, um, to help you see what door you have to walk through to understand that that will give you a better life. But what I do understand for me is that I can't push you through that door and make that happen and as a mother and as a person growing up in my generation, that's a really hard pill to swallow. So that was my shift and understand that you can be all you can be and you can encourage people to be all that they can be and you can stand next to them, but you can't make them change. It has to be their choice, and so I have gotten more understanding about that for myself and who I am. Yeah, you know it's interesting. You'll see people react differently. Do you have time for this quick little story?
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, sure.
Sallyann Martinez:And my brother a couple of months ago. My brother's like you've changed, you need to go to therapy or something. And I laughed at him. I said, oh, babe. I said no, no, just because I'm choosing to act differently than the way that you think I should act, or that you've trained me for all these years to react as your sibling. And now that I've changed and come into myself and decided to do things differently cause I need to see things differently, that's, uh, there's nothing wrong with me. I have no therapy.
Sallyann Martinez:I think it's a strong tool that we can do to help ourselves. Um, I said, but you better look at yourself to see where this is really coming from. And he was like huh, and sure enough, you know, all of a sudden, like the argumentation about certain things dwindled and because a lot of times when people say things to us, we also have to take note, Is this about them and I just happen to be in this place, right? Or they feel to me in this way? Is it really mine, like, is it mine to hold? I'm going to say like, 90% of the time, it doesn't belong to you, it belongs to them.
Sallyann Martinez:So in kindness or in love, we can say wow, that doesn't belong to me. I'm not going to take it right, I'm not just going to swallow it or store it in my legs or whatever. I'm going to look at it and realize, wow, this doesn't really belong to me. And then it's easier to have empathy for other people. It's like, wow, it's really, I'm going to give you a lot of love that you think that way, cause I just think differently and it's okay that I think differently. Um, so I'm just going to give you the bandwidth to do what you have to do, but I expect you to give me the bandwidth to believe what I believe as well that's a difficult sort of balance, isn't it?
Josh Porthouse:having the discernment and honesty and awareness to identify that, but then between being maybe dismissive and courteous, I think is sort of the I don't know where the fulcrum is, but that's the balancing act in those types of moments, isn't it?
Sallyann Martinez:It really is. I found a lot of people become dismissive or again go into fight or flight. I'm telling you something you don't want to hear. So you know as a normal conversation, not with my gift, um, and go into fight or flight, cause I'm not comfortable with that. I'm not comfortable with what you're saying and it's going to take me some time to process that and hopefully they process it for themselves and be kind and gentler to the person that is communicating it, especially if you're not doing it in a big or angry way, I mean even if you are.
Sallyann Martinez:I one time I had this, this president of the company that was like so explosive in this meeting, and I looked at him. I'm like that must've been a really bad phone call. You got off on that. He just hung up the phone. He was like starting to get crazy at me. I'm like this has nothing to do with me. Call me when you want to talk about marketing. But I left. He was like and I'm like calm down this. Whatever's happening here has nothing to do with me, Um, and it's hard to see, right, it's hard to cause. The world doesn't always give us permission to see our greatness. The world doesn't give us permission to understand what works for us or to back ourselves. We have to give ourselves permission or I want to give all your guys permission to understand. It's not being selfish, it's just understanding your own grounding, what you need, and to be aware of what you authentically need so you can continue to be healthy mentally and physically. It's not a big trick.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah. Yeah, it's also not that much of a luxury item as it might seem to be, and I think economically it's a relatively inelastic good. So I agree with you. But let me ask you this real quick before we get out of here Sally, If people want to get in touch with you or follow along with anything you're putting out online maybe become a client, get in touch with you, anything when do people go? How do they reach out?
Sallyann Martinez:Well, thanks for asking, josh. Everything is HeavensLlightwellnesscom Heaven's Light Wellness, on all social medias. We have a YouTube channel, you know. Click on the website and make an appointment and find space for yourself, right? So we have appointments. Majority of my clients are virtual. I have clients all over the world. We have appointments. Majority of my clients are virtual. I have clients all over the world. So, yeah, so it's the. I used to say all the English speaking countries, and now I have clients in Mexico and Taiwan, so it made myself a liar. But, yeah, we can do a lot of this work on the phone because there's no time and space when you talk to source or heaven. So, yeah, book an appointment. That's the best way. Check us out on heavenslightwellnesscom YouTube, instagram, tiktok. We do free angel card pulls every week, so hopefully you get a beautiful, positive message for yourself. There's lots of ways to spread some love out there.
Josh Porthouse:Absolutely Well for anybody who's new to this show. Depending on the player you're streaming this conversation on, or where you're watching this video, you can click see more. You can click show more, and in the drop down description for this conversation you'll see links to Heaven's Light Wellness, the website and social, and you'll be able to get in touch with Sally Ann through there as well. For right now, though, I love this conversation. It was super lighthearted, but we covered some deep topics. It flowed really well and, like I brought up in the beginning, I think it's got a lot to do with your peppy attitude and your awesome perspective. So I appreciate you bringing it with you into the conversation and the inspiration that you put out and, obviously, your ability to clearly communicate it well. So I guess the only thing I have left to say is thanks for your time.
Sallyann Martinez:Oh, thank you. I'm honored to be part of this and share some space with you, Josh.
Josh Porthouse:Yeah, yeah, no problem. I have a feeling we'll be in touch 18 to 24 months. We'll see where this goes, but to everybody else who tuned into this conversation and listened to it, I hope you guys had an awesome time listening to everything that Sally Ann brought up. I'm going to leave you with one piece real quick. Go over to our website, transactingvaluepodcastcom. When you get to the homepage, on the top right corner of the screen, you'll see a button that says leave a voicemail. Click on it. It's two minutes of talk time all to you.
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