GOING ROGUE Podcast with Angie Manson

Angie Manson with Matt von Boecklin - Gas Station Heroin? The Truth Behind Kratom Addiction

Angie Manson Season 2 Episode 81

In this enlightening episode of Going Rogue, Angie Manson sits down with Matt von Boecklin, a chemical engineer, researcher, and founder of QuitKit—a natural, supplement-based solution designed to help people recover from Kratom and opioid addiction without relying on traditional medication-based detox protocols.

Matt shares his personal story of addiction, from a motorcycle crash in West Africa that introduced him to Tramadol, to the deep grip Kratom eventually took on his life. His analytical background led him to dive into the science of withdrawal and brain chemistry, resulting in the creation of QuitKit—an accessible, affordable supplement regimen targeting the physical and neurological symptoms of withdrawal.

They dive deep into:

  • How alcohol and Kratom hijack the brain’s reward system
  • The overlooked dangers of Kratom—aka “gas station heroin”
  • Why many recovery programs keep people stuck on substitute medications
  • The science behind natural neurotransmitter support during detox
  • How smell, memory, and subconscious triggers influence relapse
  • The role of gratitude, community, and mindset in long-term healing

Angie and Matt also talk about Elevate’s alternative approach to treatment, why AA isn’t the only way, and the importance of individualized recovery paths in a system often designed to keep people sick.

Whether you’re in recovery, supporting someone, or simply curious about better ways to heal, this episode will open your eyes to what's possible when science and self-empowerment meet.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

  • Kratom’s Hidden Danger: It’s legal in most states and often marketed as a wellness product—but its active compounds can be more potent than morphine.
  • The QuitKit Difference: A 3-week natural detox system that targets morning, afternoon, and nighttime withdrawal symptoms with high-quality, third-party-tested supplements.
  • Dopamine and Neurochemistry: Why your brain feels broken in early recovery—and how to start healing it.
  • You’re Not Broken: Addiction creates patterns in your brain, but you can build new highways.
  • Smell + Memory: How even hand sanitizer can act as a trigger—and why awareness matters.
  • It’s Not One-Size-Fits-All: Alternative options like QuitKit and Elevate’s holistic program offer life-saving alternatives to traditional 12-step and medication-based recovery.

If you or someone you love is struggling with Kratom, opioids, or addiction of any kind, check out www.tryquitkit.com and reach out to Matt directly at matt@tryquitkit.com.

You’re not alone—and there is another way.

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