GOING ROGUE Podcast with Angie Manson
Entrepreneur in Addiction Treatment, CrossFitter, Podcast Host, and Power Mom! Going Rogue is how I’ve made it this far in life and has been my mantra. Sometimes you’ve got to break some rules or ruffle some feathers to get anything truly meaningful done. It has served me well in my career and in helping me overcome challenges. Passion Turned Into Profession…CEO of Elevate Addiction Services I’ve worked in alcohol and drug rehabilitation full-time for over 28 years. I came into this industry after my own life had taken a turn and I was facing 10 years in prison, only to have been given a chance at rehab first. I saw what addiction could do to my life and that I was one of so many struggling with the same issue. I also saw how effective rehab could completely turn someone’s life around. After I got clean, I started helping others and have never looked back!The Elevate model is a unique and copyrighted method that aims to empower the individual to not only stay sober, but reach their true potential by addressing their core issues and reviving their purpose and place in the world. Elevate operates several facilities in California including both inpatient and outpatient facilities, as well as delivering group sessions online via Telehealth. Lear More About Me: www.angiemanson.com Learn More About Elevate Rehab: www.elevaterehab.org
GOING ROGUE Podcast with Angie Manson
Going Rogue with Angie Manson and Dr. Tony Dice - Participate in Your Own Rescue
Former Navy SEAL turned clinical therapist Dr. Tony Dice joins Angie to share the raw story behind his spiral into addiction, the moment everything broke, and the decision to “participate in his own rescue.” From contracting overseas and living in fight-or-flight to selling his car to stay in rehab, Dr. Dice walks us through the hard won lessons that shaped his Holistic Change Model (HC-Mod)—a practical framework therapists and recovery communities are adopting to create real, lasting change.
They dig into trauma as the root, why “powerlessness” didn’t fit his path, the role of movement and community (yes, CrossFit), and how service became the antidote. Plus: his upcoming book After the Trident: A Navy SEAL’s Battle with Secrets, Shame, and Addiction, Bishop & Dice Defense, and the Mountain Seed Foundation’s family-based resilience work in war-torn regions.
If you’ve ever believed you could “muscle through it” alone—this conversation is your wake-up call.
Key Topics
- High-performance identities & hidden collapse (SEAL → contractor → addiction)
- Trauma, hyper-arousal, and why civilian life can feel “wrong” post-deployment
- The moment of truth: choosing treatment (and paying for it)
- Building HC-Mod: stages of change → narrative work → CBT action → meaning/purpose
- Movement & community: CrossFit, routine, accountability
- Family systems: why you can’t heal in isolation
- Service as recovery; “teach to teach” as a force multiplier
- Writing After the Trident and telling the truth responsibly
About Dr. Tony Dice:
Dr. Tony Dice is a former Navy SEAL turned clinical therapist, speaker, author, and co-founder of Bishop & Dice Defense, serving veterans, first responders, and high performers. He developed the Holistic Change Model (HC-Mod) for trauma/addiction recovery and is the author of After the Trident: A Navy SEAL’s Battle with Secrets, Shame, and Addiction (now on preorder).
IG: @dr.tonydice • Site: bishopdicedefense.com
Resources & Links
- Dr. Tony Dice — IG @dr.tonydice | bishopdicedefense.com
- Book: After the Trident (preorder)
- Mountain Seed Foundation (family-based resilience work)
- Bishop & Dice Defense
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