The discussion today looks back over the career of Dr. Richard Della Penna and how he came to join the team at Independa as Chief Medical Officer after a very distinguished career at Kaiser Permanente. Dr. Della Penna lives by the adage of 'I don't care how much you know until I know how much you care', and he brings this philosophy to his contributions at Independa, and to the marketplace. Kian and Richard talk about how the critical need for caring for older adults and keeping them more comfortable, secure and at home longer.