Ever felt trapped between the pursuit of a fulfilling career and a rich personal life?
Delynn Miller, the transformative coach from the Pursuit Institute, joins me in peeling back the layers on how we, as leaders, can embrace an 'and' mindset to have it all.
Throughout our conversation, Delynn shares her wisdom on breaking through restrictive societal norms and generational beliefs that have long dictated a woman's role in the workforce and at home. We tap into the art of finding one's voice, building confidence, and the magic that happens when you start inspiring rather than pushing your team.
Authentic leadership is not just climbing the corporate ladder; it's about leading from within.
This episode cracks open the myth of the 'hot mess' leader and acknowledges the internal struggles many face while trying to project confidence and capability.
She shares insight on the transformative 'be, do, have' model that Delynn champions, encouraging us to imagine the rich tapestry of life we yearn for across health, relationships, and finances.
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Ever felt trapped between the pursuit of a fulfilling career and a rich personal life?
Delynn Miller, the transformative coach from the Pursuit Institute, joins me in peeling back the layers on how we, as leaders, can embrace an 'and' mindset to have it all.
Throughout our conversation, Delynn shares her wisdom on breaking through restrictive societal norms and generational beliefs that have long dictated a woman's role in the workforce and at home. We tap into the art of finding one's voice, building confidence, and the magic that happens when you start inspiring rather than pushing your team.
Authentic leadership is not just climbing the corporate ladder; it's about leading from within.
This episode cracks open the myth of the 'hot mess' leader and acknowledges the internal struggles many face while trying to project confidence and capability.
She shares insight on the transformative 'be, do, have' model that Delynn champions, encouraging us to imagine the rich tapestry of life we yearn for across health, relationships, and finances.
TOPICS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE:
Connect with Delynn Miller:
https://pursuitinstitutecc.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thepursuitinstitute/
https://www.facebook.com/thepursuitinstitute/
https://www.youtube.com/@pursuitinstitutecc
Are you ready to break free from the norm and learn how to truly stand out by identifying and shifting your mindset so you become and believe that you are, a powerhouse leader? Our guest, delynn Miller, herself refuses to settle for the same old, same old, and therefore works with her clients to help them find true purpose in their work and life. That translates to great success for their teams, their companies and for themselves. Delynn is going to share with us how to approach life with an end versus or attitude, and stop blending in and find your voice and confidence. She's going to talk about reprogramming yourself to be the leader you want to be, and to be the leader who inspires versus pushes your team.
Speaker 1:So stay with us, welcome, welcome, welcome to Shading the Corporate Bitch, the podcast that transforms female corporate executives into powerhouse leaders by showing them how to shed the challenges and overwhelm, along with any fear, insecurity, self-doubt and negativity holding them back. I'm your host, bernadette Beaus, of Fall of Fire Coaching, bringing you powerhouse discussions each week to share tips, advice and sometimes tough love, so you create the riches in your work and life you deserve. Delynn, how are you? Welcome to?
Speaker 2:the show. Thank you, happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:I am thrilled to have you, and especially if we're going to talk at end or attitude, love it, want to understand more about it. But before we do, I always like to ask one question. It's just tell us about yourself to where, outside of the workplace. Who is Delynn and how can our listeners and viewers really connect and relate with you? So tell us a little bit about yourself, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So I am a life and success and leadership coach, and up in the last decade this is what I've been doing. Before this, I was an executive in corporate healthcare and I shed all of that and stepped into a whole different person of, into a whole different life and a whole different role, which I'm sure we'll talk about and, yeah, it's been just an amazing journey. So now I went from even working in like solo and I really missed working with other people like I missed not just. You know, I really nailed leading my own life Right and I wanted to hop back into leading teams and helping other people to lead as well. So this is where pursuit Institute came up. So we created a personal development Institute that specializes in taking people from point A to point Z, and I now work with a ton of really amazing coaches that I've partnered with and it's just, it's a really cool atmosphere that serves both client and coach to the next level. So that's been really cool as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is very, very cool, and I think the whole thing about having an end or attitude, yeah. However, if our listeners and viewers like me, I was like, hmm, what exactly does that mean? So tell us what your take on and or attitude is.
Speaker 2:We live in a society that's very much like and maybe you were raised like I was raised like can you just be happy with what you have Right? You can have this or you can have this and it was never and right. So an and attitude really involves embracing the idea that we as humans, as women, can pursue it all, that we can actually have it all like simultaneously not this or this, it's actually this and this right without feeling compelled that we have to have it all. We have these boundaries or competing priorities that I think a lot of people are really feeling. So when I take this approach, I really try to recognize that we can be successful leaders while also maintaining really fulfilling personal lives. So if we have the or attitude, that kind of is giving us this idea that you have to make choices of this or this, and I like to really encourage the and attitude over yeah, and where do you think that stemming from?
Speaker 1:where did the or?
Speaker 2:really come from. Yeah, and generationally we've grown up in, you can't have it all. You can't have everything that you want. You can either have you can have the job, or you can have the family, you can have happiness or you can have the money right, like this is very much a programming. I know I'm not the only person that was programmed, because I coach people that are like oh my God, my parents used to say that to me too, and that's a thing. It's not a let's hate on our parents thing, because our parents everybody is doing the best they can with their current level of awareness, right, so it's like they didn't mean to pass on this or thinking, but they inadvertently just did right, so Now?
Speaker 1:but doesn't teachers and social media I mean, it's like not just the parents, but even the people that we work with, especially as women even the people that we work with kind of make it seem as if well, wait a minute, you're a woman, you want to work and you want to have a family. That's not going to happen, right.
Speaker 2:Great, absolutely Well, and even I remember when I resigned at my corporate healthcare job. Really, it just happened to be just after I had my first daughter. It wasn't because I had my first daughter, it was just kind of like the perfect storm of like okay, I'm meant for more, I can't do it in this box that I'm being put in over here and I'm meant to do something different. And I just happened to be a mom now, right.
Speaker 2:So so many people when I resigned because I spent 15 years being like a professional ladder climber in this organization and like, right from graduating university, and I was like, do, do, do, climb in all the ladders and when I resigned, everybody was like, oh, yeah, now you. And they used to say me now you get to spend more time with your babies. Or oh, now you get to do this. And I'm like, no, no, like I was already doing that and it's actually because I started my own business and I, you know yep, my kids are still gonna be being watched by somebody else per time because I got stuff to do, right. Like, oh, now you can do this, now you. And I'm just like no, no, no, no, like I was doing it before I'm out of here because it's not filling me up anymore, like it's not in alignment with how I see my life, like that's why I'm leaving.
Speaker 2:But every woman I mean in healthcare it's very female dominated profession. It was very much, oh, now you can do this. And it's like it really showed me that you're doing this and you feel like you can't. You live in an oral world, like, okay, they're saying like I'm choosing the career and you're choosing family, and I'm like no, no, no, I'm choosing me. Yes, I'm choosing me and I'm showing my now daughters that they get to choose them as well and by me choosing me, I'm actually choosing them. Yes, right, awesome, I love that. I love that. By me choosing me, I'm choosing my professional life, I'm choosing my personal life, I'm choosing it all. But it has to start with me first. Yeah, right, so the or mentality started with me, but the antmoor mentality starts with me as well.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you can back up and wouldn't you say too, the or mentality started with everyone externally from you, and therefore we'll talk to the audience, and then we each embed what we want to, or we decide that we want something more and we change it to an end. That's right, all right, and that has to be done individually, absolutely, and someone has to decide on that is that right Absolutely Well.
Speaker 2:I mean, everything starts with a decision, right? You, everybody gets to decide. What does my ant look like, right? So because we've already been programmed with what does our or look like Like for some people, they weren't programmed with the money or happiness or job or parenting or professional or marriage, like they weren't programmed with those things right. So it depends on what your experience has been. But first, once you decide where you're going, it's the rest kind of takes starts to take care of itself, right.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day, right? So when I decided and I had that epiphany I mean it just happened to come when I was pregnant I was like, wait a sec, I like this job, but I'm actually really good at it. But wait a sec, I'll probably be pretty kick ass of whatever I do, so let's scratch that. But you're really good at it, right? Okay, I like it, but I don't love it, and okay.
Speaker 2:So what is it that I? How do I see my life? Right, because becoming pregnant for me was kind of just the catalyst to get me thinking in a different way, right. And for somebody else, maybe it's not getting pregnant, maybe it's moving into a different job, maybe it's moving to a different part of the world, maybe it's getting married, or maybe it's getting a dog, I don't know. Whatever it could be. Different things for different people, right.
Speaker 2:But there's usually that catalyst that you're literally sent, like you were sent from the universe to go like all right, like pitter-patter, let's start thinking about how we're gonna do this, because, at the end of the day, as humans, we're a spirit having a human experience, right, and all our spirit wants is growth and expansion, like that's. Why else would we be in this human experience, right, so like we're not in this experience to have an or life, like our spirit's going. Okay, you're gonna grow through this and this and this and this and expose yourself to this, but what happens is because we're human, we be people in right, fear kicks in Our spirit's not scared of anything, but as humans, and even when we're babies, we're not scared of anything. We're programmed to be scared of things. We're programmed to be scared of money, to be scared of success, to be scared of like working outside of a job that, like guarantees a paycheck. We're programmed to be scared.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right. So before we go there, because, that's a whole subject I wanna definitely get into and talk about. However, you also made the comment about and I hoped I scribbled it fast enough, but you made a comment about like we're sent messages to kind of shift us. How does one recognize those, how does one really get conscious of those type of universal messages to where we just don't overlook them and run past them and therefore don't get that opportunity?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a feeling, so it might physically come in like a message, because there's messengers all over the place, right, when you have the initial feeling and it's like the, it's like a blip of a thought in your mind, right, you have this kind of initial thought, then you go okay, is that thought for me? But then what happens is your habitual way of thinking kind of starts to hijacking everything. It's like oh no, that's not for you. Who do you think you are? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Remember your roots? All the blah, blah, blahs, right. So that kind of starts to take over.
Speaker 2:But that feeling will never go away and I know for me and a lot of my clients that I've worked with they're like I literally had this feeling 10 years ago but I ignored it because I got scared. They don't say they got scared. Once they raise their awareness they go oh yeah, that was me being scared, me being human, right, just out there doing things. So then it's just like that feeling will keep coming back and you'll keep getting messages. Maybe it's the next book you read, maybe it's the next song you hear, maybe it's the next like commercial you see, or the person you talk to Like you will be sent like physical messages constantly, constantly numbers, like just messages constantly sent to you.
Speaker 2:But what happens, and especially like me, when I was in my like corporate, I'm gonna run the world and heels I was. I had my like to-do list and I was too busy in my to-do list to catch the messages when I finally slowed down and was like, oh yeah, I've been getting these. I've been getting. I felt this feeling for years, years, years, years, but I ignored it and I just assumed it would go away. But that's the thing is, it doesn't go away, right, because when your, when your spirit has had enough of like we've squeezed out of this lemon all that we can get, whether it's a job or relationship, living in the house you're living in, living in the country, living, it doesn't matter. When it's like, nope, we've grown enough, here, we're out, it'll find a way to get you out Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I guarantee so like I've had people that were like friends, that were like amazing at their jobs and like didn't see it come, and they, they get walked out and it's just they're like I didn't see that coming. I'm like that's okay, I'm not just saying there's something bigger coming for you. I'm actually telling you, because you can only connect the dots looking backwards, right, you can't connect the dots looking Correct.
Speaker 2:So in the moment it seems so devastating, but it's just like no, no, no. Universities did you a total, solid Wait. Just ask for your next move and I promise you you will be given it. But you got to go in. You're not gonna. You're not gonna find it outside of you.
Speaker 2:It's about listening and we call it our intuition, like our sixth sense, isn't? I can see dead people, as per the movie. It is this knowingness, right, it's our intuition and it's a feeling that you have and when you have it, you know it. Yes, and I'll never forget, when I had, like when I first started coaching and mentoring, I always assumed, like when I was climbing the corporate ladder, I was like, I know I'm gonna work for myself someday, but I always just assumed I'm gonna work my, because I have this program to do. I'm gonna work my 30 years and then, when I get to live the good life, when I'm retired and for those that can't see me, I'm air-coating because that's not true, but I get to live the good life then I'll do like consulting or something I don't know Right.
Speaker 1:Teaching.
Speaker 2:Right Teaching. I just assumed that that's what it would look like. And then when, like literally coaching and mentoring, just it like found me. I was doing it within the hospital setting, but then when I was like out on my own, I found that I was just gravitating to it and I said to my husband I'm like, oh my gosh, like it just lights me up when I see someone set an intention and then crush it Absolutely. It is the best.
Speaker 1:That's why we're here. That's why we are doing what we are doing.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Now. So intuition being those messages, and I can recall very significant or a large number of them that's happened to me over the years. And so someone seeing that it's almost like that commercial it's, some college has this commercial where someone's being bombarded with messages that getting a master's degree only costs a certain amount of money and they're seeing that number everywhere. I know you said fear multiple times, but what is about that fear that is causing them to delete it immediately? Delete the thought or the image or the message, ignore it, avoid it. What is really the inner fear that you find, especially those in corporate where everybody thinks, oh, they're confident, strong, powerful leaders. But what do you find that fear to be specifically?
Speaker 2:I mean, people are going to respond to fear, the way they were programmed to respond to fear. So, like some people are literally like I have, like parts of my family we probably all do that are like rug sweepers, right, we'll just pretend that that didn't happen, but really it just scares us. We're going to avoid it, right, why? Why, it's part of their self image, it's part of their programming, it's the way that they do. So we have two self images. We have the one we project to the world and then we have the one that we hold of ourselves. It's the way we see ourselves and it's that one that gets us our results every single time.
Speaker 2:But I mean a lot of people and I mean this is a really good example would be like Hollywood. Right, there's the way I'm projecting myself. But that's not. That's not who I am. It's like a persona, right. And I know, for me, when I was working in corporate, like even when I was like new grad, 22 years old, I put on my heels, I painted my makeup on, I put on a suit and I walked into that boardroom like I owned it, right, really, I was crapping my pants. I was like, oh my God. And like my habitual thinking is like going crazy in my head like, oh my gosh, who are you? You don't belong here. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right, and all the things.
Speaker 1:Those are the things that I was looking for. So you're talking the fact that you know people are suffering from like imposter syndrome, not feeling good enough, they're questioning their worth, they're questioning their, their value, those type of things. Yeah, because what keeps gnawing at me is do you find that, saying that it's their programming, yep, do your clients use that as almost like a crutch and an excuse? No, or do they kind of have to be told by you that that's what it is? And then you, you know, the two of you have to break that down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, we don't use it as an excuse. It is what it is, though, like, but it's like. It's one of those things that it's like okay, yep, that's the way your program. That's not. It's not your fault, but it is your responsibility to shift it. And if you're gonna use it as a crutch, then Nothing's gonna change, yeah, however, what happens is just like you can reprogram your phone or you can reprogram Whatever the branding on your Facebook page, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2:You can reprogram your subconscious mind, your self-image like. You can absolutely do that and you see, like beautiful examples of this, if you've ever watched like documentaries on, like Elvis Presley, michael Jordan, like any of these Wayne Gretzky, like any of these high-level performers, athletes, they will talk about how they. Like Elvis Presley, he created Elvis Presley. That's not who he was. Like he stepped into that self-image. Like he created him in his mind and then he stepped into him. Yeah, right, and that's what we have to do as individuals, right? So I, when I think back, like I did it unconsciously when I was new grad, getting into corporate, and I was just like you almost become when you're, when you're taking on a new self-image, you almost become like a self-image, klepto, you're like, oh, I like the way she speaks, oh, I like her confidence, oh, I like, I like the way she walks, I like the way she dresses. And you just start going oh, okay, I'm gonna, whatever, but you?
Speaker 2:What happens is a lot of people start taking on a mishmash of things in their self-image for no apparent rhyme or reason, or they're taking things from people that have nothing to do with where they, as individuals, want to go Right. So I ended up, by the time I like figured all this out, I was like I am really like a mishmash, like I don't really know who I am, because I've been Borrowing things all over the place and, yes, it's taking me to here. But then I have the thought of like what if I did this intentionally? Like what if I intentionally Went through all the areas of my life and said I want this and this and this and this, and I did that Right? And then you like intentionally Block out all of these areas of your life and then you become them Right, because it's in the becoming, that's what your spirit wants.
Speaker 1:Okay, so maybe I confused myself. So you saying that that's the good thing, that's that someone should do is go and and they control kind of the pieces that they want for them to be? Yes, because I did it in a negative way. I kind of looked at it and went okay, I want to become this person, that, right, not, and I'm gonna take pieces from all these people and become this Bitch. Right, that's where this whole thing came from. Yeah, and then I had to, in your words, reprogram myself. When I left corporate and big you know, and started working on myself 12, 14 years ago, right, kind of like, I rediscovered who I am and then, like you said, I never looked at it that way but I reprogrammed by picking what it is that I really wanted to be and bringing that together, right, Absolutely so.
Speaker 2:Either way, you made a decision, just like when I was in corporate. I made a decision but then I noticed I wasn't getting the results. So so it always goes be, do, have. But it starts. We as humans, we're always focusing on the having. I want to have the money, I want to have the car, want to have the job, I want to have the marriage, I want to have the house, I want to have, have, have, have. But we don't ever focus on there's like two steps before that that we got to get to there's being. Then the beingness sets up what you do, what actions you take. Then that dictates what you have. So for me, even though I was, I was going oh, I'm gonna like take on all these personality traits and all these things. A intuitively did feel right, so that's your first in like. It didn't. It wasn't like uh, oh, that's not really me. It was literally my spirit going like what are you doing? I was like you got any object, but that's a hot mess. Put that down, right, what?
Speaker 2:was and again, you'll feel it if you're paying attention, if you're not too busy in your tech off list. Pay attention because you'll feel it. And so then it was like okay, like I took on all these things but then I wasn't getting the results Right. So it's just like, if you're not getting the results, your results, what's in your bank account, how your house looks, how your relationships look, how you're, how you're all of them cause you get to have them all. If they aren't looking the way you want them to look, go right back to your beingness because you're being this. It's all cause and effects. It's a universal law, universal law of cause and effect. Right being will set up your doing and then, whatever the having is, litter is the effect. So people go I want the money. I'm like the money's the effect. Be the person that has the money. Oh, I want the health. Health is the effect. Be the person that's healthy. Oh, I want the relationship. The relationship's the effect. Be the person who has a kick-ass relationship Like who's that person Right?
Speaker 1:So all right. So someone decides right, they want to be happy, fulfilled, joyful, and that's the effect. Yep, but so how do they then really truly be? Do you find that a lot of, especially many corporate individuals, who have never kind of paid attention, do you find that they struggle actually being and therefore, what can they do to actually be? Because for many that'll sound woo-woo, that'll be like woo-woo.
Speaker 2:You know that's a lot of like For that I always I, honestly, and even what got me paying attention to it was just the word leadership. I was like I want to be a better leader. And then all I needed to be told your leadership has nothing to do with the letters at the end of your name, which I was in the habit of accumulating that's how I like to find myself, me too. So it has nothing to do with that. It has nothing to do with your job title, which, again, I was in the habit of accumulating, and it has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with can you lead you?
Speaker 2:And then someone looked at me and said, like my mentor at the time looked at me and said would you follow you? And I had to start looking at my beingness and I was like holy crap, nope, I wouldn't actually follow me. I guess if I was told like, oh, this is your new manager, and a lot of people think, oh, I'm a manager, I'm a leader, it's not the same thing. Not the same thing at all.
Speaker 1:Yes, we talk a lot about that here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not the same thing. We. I mean there's lots of people that will follow out of fear or obligation, like, oh, you got the title of my manager, you hired me or whatever. Or I'm just scared of getting fired because my, my desire for being here is to get paid every two weeks, right, but your doesn't mean you're leading and don't even think that you're going to start leading other people if you can't lead yourself Period. So when I talk to leaders or people that desire to be leaders, about that it makes sense, right. Like if you're a hot mess, like people don't need to know you're hot mess, they go. Well, they don't know that I'm a hot mess, they can feel it because we are all energy and energy speaks every single time.
Speaker 1:Create an avatar for us of a hot mess, Like create an avatar of the person who is questioning whether they're a leader and they're coming up with like you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not.
Speaker 2:What does that look like for it? It's either someone that was like me and that, just like, climbed the ladder very quickly and is questioning, like how it even it just happened so fast that they're like I didn't even have time to grow into the beingness of that. That was mine. Are they insecure? Or they they're appearing. Remember the two self images. They're outward appearance. They look very confident. They're tall, they're articulate, they're posture and the way they speak and they can write a mean essay and a mean memo and they can. They can do all the things. On the inside, they're literally like they can't. Maybe they can't wait to get back to their office, or they're like having panic attacks behind closed doors, or they're like they're like other areas of their life are faltering, like whether it's their health, or they have something else that they're pouring into, because there's so much fear of being found out over here that they'll pour into and maybe it's they're taking a hit in their, their bank account, or they're taking a hit in their marriage or with their relationships with their family or just the other aspects that they're like. I want this, but it's like I don't know how to have it all. I don't. I don't know how to do that and they're just so scared of being found out of. How do I pull this off? I know that's what I was.
Speaker 2:I was constantly thinking that I'm going like what if they figure out that I'm actually not a leader? Like I can't even lead my own life? Like nothing in my bank account, all right, my marriage is falling apart, or my my have whatever, some sort of like I'm pulling my physically. People have things that they're hiding, right, like I'm pulling my hair out, or I'm Like abusing substances or I'm whatever. Whatever it is right, but they don't have to know that because that's not what I'm projecting, that's not what I'm portraying. Right, or I'm in an abusive relationship or it doesn't matter, right, like there's, like everybody has something, but it's like can you lead your own life?
Speaker 2:And I'll never forget one of my mentors that I had years and years ago. I'll never forget when I realized I'm like, when I took her off the pedestal of like she's got the title and the all the things that society's like she had the marriage and the kids and all the things that society says You're successful if you have those things. When I took her off the pedestal and realized that she was a human and Really looked at what was happening within her life and it was really chaotic. And I remember for the first time I was like, oh, like it. Thank you for teaching me a lot about business and a lot about what to do and not to do in a boardroom and whatever. But the rest of your life, I literally have to reject it, like I want nothing to do with it, right, nothing. And it was amazing.
Speaker 2:And I, because I knew, even at 22, I was like I want to have it all. I came from divorced parents and I was like this is the way it's gonna look like for me and I, right, like, this is my relationships to look and feel. Right, I don't ever want to. And even at that age I was like I love to travel and I love like I don't ever want to be restricted of that. I was hanging out with people that were like you know, oh, I get three weeks holidays a year and I get. And I was just like, and I just I knew again through the feeling that that wasn't for me.
Speaker 1:But it took me 15 years and, again, the only reason I did that was fear yeah, what is one or two tips that you Would recommend to our listeners of viewers that they could be doing Right now, as they get, you know, finished listening to this program, that they could start doing to really get in touch with having it all and Really going after the end, as opposed to the or Attitude?
Speaker 2:yeah, I would. Honestly, you have this amazing higher faculty called your imagination, and a lot of people think that Imagination is just for kids, and that is the most ridiculous thing ever. What I want you to do is I want you to tap into your imagination and and start using. Start using your imagination to ask yourself like if I could be, do and have anything, if my Life could look like anything, what do I want it to look like? Like if I climbed a mountain and look down on the City landscape. That is my life. What do I want my health to look like? What do I want my relationships to look like? What do I want my bank account to look like? What do I want my spirituality practice?
Speaker 2:Like, maybe us talking about out in society, land that is going, ooh, universal law and Intuition that sounds woo-woo. Maybe there's something in there that you're going, I don't know. It sounds interesting and what do I have to lose to learn about it? What does that look like for you? Right, because even again in our society, we've confused religion with spirituality. Like, look at, what do you want that to look like? Right, you get to have all these different aspects that are.
Speaker 2:Amazing I love, and then what happens? And another thing I would then challenge you to do is to start asking yourself Okay, so if this is what I want, who do I need to be in order to have those things? Because it's be do have. And a lot of people get stuck in the yeah, well, I want this car and I live in this house and I'm married to this person, I'm doing this and I'm traveling here, but I don't know how it's gonna happen. Okay, don't worry about the house, literally, don't worry about the how, because it literally it's the effect. It will start to take care of itself when you decide who you need to be in order to get there.
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that, especially that last point Not worrying about the how, because so many of us do and Because of the fact that, like you said, the be do have, everybody wants to have Now and therefore the how. Therefore, they don't focus on the be and the done.
Speaker 2:I love that. Actually I have. I have a book coming out very soon. It's called you can't mess this up and there is an entire section on the do have.
Speaker 1:Fabulous, fabulous. I hope that's actually the title of your book, is it is?
Speaker 2:well, no it's. You can't mess. This up. Oh, you can't, I'm sorry people are scared. They can. They're just like. I don't want to do it Because I'm gonna mess it up. I'm like you can't mess this up.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I love that you can't mess this up. Well, thank you, dillon, for this has been fabulous. I so appreciate your time and these great. I have like a whole page of notes here this great conversation, because, it's true, for all of our listeners, of viewers, you need to be do and have, and some of those do's I want you to do is check Dillon out at Pursuit Institute, cc Dot com and be sure to follow her on Facebook, the Pursuit Institute, and we're gonna post all of her Connection links with the show notes for this episode. But, dillon, thank you so much, I so appreciate your time.
Speaker 1:I absolutely loved this conversation with Dillon Miller of Pursuit Institute and I want you to check her out at the Pursuit Institute, cc calm. But she talked about a number of things when it comes to our programming, I will say, from when we're very young, even into our 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond, especially if you haven't tapped into the fact that, yes, you have been programmed to think and believe in a certain way. So she shared with us just what you could be doing to shift your mindset, to really move into a place where you really, truly understand who you are and what your purpose is, and she talks about the model of be, do and have. And then she went on to really share with us the fact that we aren't here on this earth, in this life, in this body, with this heart and this mind to have an or life. We were born to have an end life and you know, especially as women, we believe we can't have it all.
Speaker 1:And yet Dolin is like, yes, you can, and it's just a matter of how do you identify what it is that you really want and then how do you be, do and have?
Speaker 1:It sounds simple, and yet she'll even express, through her own stories as to how that's not necessarily true, that it does take work. However, she is here to help you, to guide you through that process. So it was a fabulous conversation and I hope you kind of dug deep into it and walked away with your own tips, and I would love to know what your feedback or what you walked away with is. So go out to LinkedIn and share with us on any one of our number of posters or share posts of your own to really help Dolin and I understand what did you walk away from? Really understanding how to have an end versus or attitude, and become that powerhouse leader you're meant to be, and I also am so grateful that you are here with us today to have this discussion, and I will look forward to having you on another episode of Shedding the Corporate Bitch. Have a great week.