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The Rock Family Worship Center
Taking The Church Outside The Walls
The Rock Family Worship Center
Answering Questions
This episode explores the transformative understanding of the finished work of Christ and its implications on sin, identity, and grace. We address common questions about why believers still struggle with sin despite its defeat, whether understanding grace leads to careless living, and the importance of renewing our minds to embrace our true identity in Christ.
• Addressing the struggle of sin despite its defeat
• Exploring whether grace leads to careless living
• Emphasizing the importance of identity in Christ
• Understanding that victory is already secured
• Highlighting the need for a shift in mindset and belief
I'm going to go ahead and get started this morning. I want to make sure that I can get through this by the time I get through. It should be stopped raining outside. It's only supposed to rain about an hour, so it should be stopped by the time I get through. If you look on the screen up here kind of a weird message title, but it's answering questions.
Speaker 1:I told you last week that I really wanted to talk about three main questions that I've heard and I know they come up. There's a lot of questions that come up when we try to talk to people about the finished work of Christ, and maybe somebody don't. Really they've never been taught the finished work. They still have that mindset of everything's going to happen in the future. So I want to talk about some of the questions that when you go and speak to people, you talk to people and you start talking about what the finished work means. There's a few questions that's going to come up, so I want to talk about those this morning and break them down a little bit.
Speaker 1:But I want to start off in one verse just to kind of get us going. That's Romans 6, verse 11. I've got quite a few verses this morning. I'm just going to kind of look at, but you're going to see where they all kind of fit together. But Romans 6 and 11 says this Likewise you also reckon yourselves dead to sin dead, indeed, to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus, our Lord. I love this verse and you're going to see in a few minutes why I'm starting off. This is kind of the foundational verse because it says reckon yourselves dead to sin.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's many people and I want you to listen to the way I say this this morning, because I put this here for a purpose there's many believers that are mentally, mentally struggling with sin. And I say it like that because I believe that that's what sin is. I believe sin is a mental struggle. It moves us to a place of not understanding our true purpose and our true identity in Christ, and it's a mentality, anytime. It's a mentality, it's a mental thing. So many believers mentally struggle with sin and what happens here is it causes them to feel trapped in cycles of guilt, in cycles of shame, in cycles of failure. I don't care, people can go to church and they can have a good time on Sunday morning, but those same people you could talk to during the week and they feel certain things in their life. They feel guilty about things they've done in their life. They feel shame and disgust, a lot of time Condemnation about things that's happened in their life. They know Jesus died for their sin, but they still live as if sin has power over them.
Speaker 1:The truth is that the work of Christ is absolutely finished. I know I'm repeating that so much in the last few weeks, but I want you to see that the work of Christ is finished, sin is defeated and we are free. If we can wrap our minds around that, sin's defeated, the work of Christ has been completed and we are free from it. That verse that's why I started out with this verse here because it says that reckon yourself dead to sin. So today I want to address three. There's a lot of them, but I kind of narrowed this down to what I feel like may be one of the top three Three common questions that arise when we try to teach on the finished work.
Speaker 1:I won't name them all out right here. I'm going to tell you all three of them and then we're going to go back and hit on them individually. Question one If sin is defeated, then why am I still struggling? If sin's defeated, why do I still have struggles in my life? If it's defeated, why do I still see people around me that's struggling day in and day out? That's going to be one of the number one things that comes to somebody's mind when you tell them that right here, reckon yourselves dead to sin, they're automatically going to think it can't be dead, because I look around and I see it everywhere, including the church. So that's the first question If sin is defeated, why do I struggle?
Speaker 1:Second one does this mean that I'll never sin again? If I truly grab on to the finished work of Christ, if I truly look and say everything that Jesus done for me is absolutely complete, it is finished, there's nothing else that he's going to do, does that mean that I'll never sin again? Complete, it is finished, there's nothing else that he's going to do? Does that mean that I'll never sin again? And the third question does this teaching of the finished work promote careless living? That's what a lot of people are going to tell you. That's why a lot of people don't want to grab on and teach on the finished work.
Speaker 1:I know pastors right now that believe in everything finish line. I know pastors right now that believe in everything that I'm sitting here saying right now, but they will not teach it from their pulpit. How do I know they believe it? Because they come on and I look at their Facebook post and they may come on another post or something and respond and I know what they believe, but there's no way they're going to stand up in their pulpit because it's so hard a lot of times for people to grab onto. That's never heard it and that's sad.
Speaker 1:By the end of this message today, I pray that you're going to fully embrace the truth, not just my opinion, but fully embrace the truth that you are not fighting for victory. You're not waking up every day putting gloves on and saying let's go devil. You are not fighting for victory. You are living every day from victory. It's already been done. That is so hard for us to grasp. So that first question if sin is defeated, why do we see so many people in the church and in the world struggling? We don't have no problem seeing people in the world struggle, because we look out there and we say, well, if they're not born again, then they're living in sin and they're supposed to struggle. That's kind of our mindset, the way we've done it. But when you get saved and you get born again and you know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you come into the church, if you're still doing worldly stuff, then people want to look at you and say you're a hypocrite. People want to look at you and say that you ain't really who you say you are, that sin is still operating in your life, and then we got all these things that we need to do to try to get you cleaned up. That's what the church will teach us. But sin no longer has dominion over you.
Speaker 1:The enemy operates through deception. Think about that. I've never seen the devil manifest himself and do anything in my life. He's never come to me and told me to do something. He operates through deception. The devil has no power over a believer except through lies. That's it. What is the lies? There can be a lot of them, but to narrow it down, it's that are you really what he says you are? Are you really as holy as he says? Are you really what he says you are? Are you really as holy as he says? Are you really forgiven? Are you really redeemed? Those types of questions. So he operates by trying to deceive us into believing something that God never said. So here's the key, really simple Believe. Here's the key, really simple Believe truth and not lies.
Speaker 1:It's easy to say that I'm making a joke here, but it's easy to say that, but really I believe it's easy to do it. But to believe truth we've got to know truth. John 8 and 32 says this you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Look at that verse in just a minute. Because we butcher this verse so much, we use the back end of this verse so often. We go out and we tell people the truth will make you free. And what people automatically think is if I just go to church and hear somebody preach the Word, if I read a few Scriptures in my Bible, that's the truth and that's going to make me free. But what it says here and you shall know the truth, the truth that you don't know ain't going to make you free. It's the truth that you know.
Speaker 1:Why do we push this stuff so much? Why do we talk about it over and over and over again? Because if you're anything like me, I'm not going to get it one or two or three times. I've got to hear it over and over again. I've got to look at it from different angles. I've got to hear it based on different situations, and the more that I hear this and the more that I get in the word and see it for myself, the more that it's going to become truth in my life. Listen, your truth is not going to help me and my truth ain't going to help you. It's got to become truth to all of us and we've said it many times and you know, what's true to us of us is not always true to us. We've got to understand what that means. The Word of God and what Jesus done on the cross is absolutely true. You are redeemed, you are forgiven, you are a child of God. He will never leave you, he will never forsake you. All these different things that you can say, but if you don't truly know that to be truth in your own heart, what good is it going to do you? You're going to sound really spiritual, and I think we all know people like that that sound really spiritual, and I think we all know people like that that sound really spiritual, but it hadn't become truth to them yet.
Speaker 1:Also, I want you to see Colossians 2 and 15. It says Jesus disarmed principalities and powers at the cross. Why am I adding this verse in there? Because he just said that if you know, you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. So I'm adding this verse in here to tell you what the Word says. The truth is Jesus disarmed principalities at the cross. These things do not have authority over your life. Does that mean I'm not going to struggle? Absolutely not. Does that mean I'm not going to make some bad decisions and bad choices? No, I'm going to, because I'm human, but the enemy does not have control over my life.
Speaker 1:Romans 6 and 14. I'm going to pour that up. I want you to see that, because you've got to see where the dominion is now. Sin does not have dominion over your life. But if you believe that you're still bound, think about this. Sin does not have dominion over your life, but if you believe that you are still bound, think about this. If you believe that you are still bound, then you will act like you are. If you believe it in your heart, I don't care what you quote, what scripture you spit out if you believe that you are still bound, if you believe the enemy still has control over your life, then you will act out on that Always, for sin shall not have dominion over you. I don't know how we can make that any clearer, for you are not under law anymore, but you are now under grace.
Speaker 1:I love these verses because if you look at them, there are two parts to them. He tells you what the truth is, and then he tells you why it's the truth. Sin shall not have dominion over you. Boom, there's a truth. And then he says why? Because you're not under law anymore, but you're now under grace. There's a truth, and then he says why? Because you're not under law anymore, but you're now under grace. There's always two parts to a lot of these verses and we just try to preach and teach on one part of it. But if we can start understanding what these verses are saying and truly get them into us and believe them as truth, so victory comes by faith, and we talk so much about renewing our minds.
Speaker 1:I got several verses right here. I'm going to show you now. I picked these three verses out specifically because I want you to see them together. Romans 6 and 11 says you know, reckon yourselves dead to sin but alive to Christ. And then, if you jump over to Romans 12,. It says, be transformed by renewing of the mind. And then the other one right here 2 Corinthians 5 and 17, and I'm going to slow down and show them to you in a minute. You are a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, everything has become new. I'm showing you there because this begins to create a story. It begins to create a concept of an identity. I'm dead to sin, according to the Word, and if I'm dead to sin, that to the Word. And if I'm dead to sin, that means I am a new creation, because I'm dead to sin. Old things have passed away and, behold, all things have become new. And if I can just transform my thinking and be renewed in my mind, to what? To these two truths. These verses start to fit together. They start to tell a story. It's not just individual verses over here that sound really good and preach really good, but they start to come together and tell a story about what About your identity? They start to tell a story about who you are.
Speaker 1:The struggle is not about sin's power, okay, it's about your belief. Now you might say, well, I'm a believer. I believe the disciples were believers too. They walked with you. I mean think about? They was right there, they seen some of this stuff. They heard Him speak. But then he stepped into the boat one day and he says O ye of little faith. When are you going to believe what I've told you? And if he says that to His own disciples, who were walking with Him and eating with Him and just sharing ministry with Him, stop condemning yourself because you make a mistake. So it's more about your belief system, what is truly on the inside of you. When you see yourself as God sees you, you will walk in victory. You'll walk in victory over poverty. You'll walk in victory over poverty. You'll walk in victory over sin. You'll walk in victory over sickness. You'll walk in victory over disease, all these things that try to attack us. We will walk in victory when it becomes a part of our belief system.
Speaker 1:We, truly we don't just hear it taught and say that sounds really good, but we take it, grab it, make it a part of who I am, begin to speak it and begin to manifest it. You have to take it on as a belief system. The simplest way to say this is like this we don't have a sin problem, we've got an identity problem. We make it in the church like we've got a sin problem. We've got to get everybody fixed and everybody cleaned up so that everybody can get to heaven. Because you don't want to get there and know that you left your family members behind. You don't want to get up there one day and know that you had an opportunity to speak to somebody and to save somebody and you missed that opportunity. Come on, we can get into some evangelistic messages. That's always been taught and they will scare the mess out of you and make you feel bad because you know you didn't get all these people saved.
Speaker 1:But it's not about that. It's not about a sin problem. It's an identity issue, understanding who we are in Christ. We have to stop identifying I say this more times than I want to but we've got to stop identifying as an old sinner saved by grace. That's not who you are. You're not just an old sinner saved by grace. You were a sinner, you know when, back in the garden, not since then. I'm sorry now because I want you to get this. I want you to see it Since Jesus Christ did what he did, you ain't been a sinner. Now you are the righteousness of God in Christ.
Speaker 1:2 Corinthians 5 and 21 tells us that you are His righteousness. Can I see that in myself? Question number two Does this mean that I'll never sin again? Does it mean that I'm stepping to a place of perfection? Well, spiritually you are, but not in the flesh, because we still live on this earth. We still have this earth suit. You are free. That's the good thing about it. You are free, but you still have a choice, and what is true of you, as we said a while ago, may not be true to you yet. So when we ask this question, does it mean that I'll never sin again? I want you to see a couple of verses here Romans 6, verse 6 and 7.
Speaker 1:Knowing this, that our old man we won't get into this again, but knowing that our old man was crucified, he's gone with him. With who? With Jesus. Jesus ain't coming back to die again, so my old man don't have to be crucified again. It happened one time for all, and when he was crucified, I was crucified with Him, according to this verse, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin, for he who has died has been freed from sin. Why do we push the idea that some people say is crazy. But why do we push the idea so much that when he died, you died with Him, that you were co-killed with Him? This is it. This is why Because when he died and you died with Him, you have been freed from sin. What does that mean? I've been freed from that distorted image, that distorted mindset of everything that I thought I was, that God never created me to be. I no longer have to attach myself to that. Why? Because I'm a new creation now and old things have passed away.
Speaker 1:The other one right here I want you to see, along with this verse, is Galatians 5 and 16. I say then, walk in the Spirit and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Walk in the spirit. This verse has messed so many people up. It's been used as a condemning verse a lot of times to kind of berate people when we find out that somebody in the church sinned or somebody done something wrong or whatever, and we'll say you need to walk in the Spirit and you won't fulfill that lust. So we kind of get on them and we've used it as a whipping verse. But what is this really saying? It's saying walk in the Spirit, walk in the new identity of who you really are. Walk in the new identity of what you've gained because of what Jesus done on the cross. Walk in the new identity of what you've gained because of what jesus done on the cross. Walk in the spirit a little bit different here. Victory is already yours, but you must recognize it and you must choose to walk in it. Just because I come to church and hear it, don't mean I'm going to walk in it. I must choose. That's a choice I've got to make.
Speaker 1:Think about how we usually make this statement here. Listen to these words when a person sins, when a person sins, when a person sins, stop right here. That's usually the comment that we may make when we're talking about something, when a person sins. I'm saying that because I want you to see this. When you say it like that, when a person sins, you're putting sin as being an action or behavior. When a person does that, or when a person does this, sin now becomes an action and a behavior. And who teaches that? The church. Because of these things that we say, we automatically turn it into what somebody is doing rather than who they really are.
Speaker 1:Do you understand sin enough? This is the question I want us to really look at Do you understand truly what sin is? Enough? To rephrase the way that we say this? Can we say it like this when a person finds themselves in a place of sin? A lot different. It's kind of like saying calling somebody an addict or saying when somebody was battling addiction Two different things. If I would say addict, I'm putting something on the person, I'm identifying that person as something, rather than them being in a place of addiction, rather than them being in a place of addiction.
Speaker 1:These words, our words, are so important and this identity that we're putting on people is messing people up. We got so many people in the church that have been identified by so many things that they are so confused. Why can't they understand who they are? Because they've been given so much stuff in the church and they have no idea what their identity is. That's why I call it an identity crisis, because they're in crisis, trying to figure out who they really are. Trying to figure out who they really are.
Speaker 1:A specific action or behavior does not change my identity. Now, if you've still got some religion in you, this is going to bother you a little bit, so it'll be okay. But a specific action or behavior does not change my identity. It may change the way I feel about my identity, but feelings don't change truth. I don't want to get all political, but I'm going to use something here that we've seen on the news and we've seen on Facebook and we've seen around the world in the last few years, because I just made this statement. I said but feelings don't change truth.
Speaker 1:We have boys believing they're girls and girls believing they're boys. And y'all have seen the news I ain't got to go into it. Y'all have seen all the stuff with all the transsexual stuff. And so many of them are taking it even a step further and they're going and they're getting surgery to transition from a male to a female or from a female to a male. They're literally going under the knife to change themselves. Why? Because, listen to this, I never thought talking about transsexualism would be such a powerful teaching lesson. But listen to this, I never thought talking about transsexualism would be such a powerful teaching lesson. But listen to this, they're taking that action to reinforce what they believe about themselves. They already believe something. This little girl says I'm a boy. And then she goes and gets surgery to reinforce what she's believing about herself, but it don't change what was true from the very beginning. It don't change the DNA. Don't have matter how much you mutilate the body, it will not ever change the DNA.
Speaker 1:Think about what Jesus did for you. He didn't just die to forgive you of your sin. He died to point you back to Ephesians 1 and 4. Just as he chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, he died on this cross to point us, to turn us around and point us back to the Father. That was His true purpose. On the cross Now, he accomplished other things. I'm not saying that he didn't. On the cross Now, he accomplished other things. I'm not saying that he didn't die for sin. Yes, he did, but it's not like we always put it. There's a bigger, much broader purpose in Him going to the cross, and I love that verse in Ephesians 1 and 4. Just as he chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame. You are dead to sin, you are redeemed, you are saved, you are sanctified, you are a new creation and for all of this, for all of this, you were chosen. He chose you before the foundation of the world. It's crazy to think on that. That's crazy to think on that.
Speaker 1:Monica got caught up this morning and we didn't plan that. She got caught up on the word about feeling this morning what we feel, what we feel, what we feel and I picked my thing up and I put a star beside this because I knew I had this in here, because so many people say, well, maybe I am redeemed, maybe I am dead to sin, maybe I am saved and sanctified, maybe I am a new creation, because that's what the Word of God says. But you know, I just don't feel like it. There's no feelings again. Listen, feelings don't change truth and it never will.
Speaker 1:In counseling I say feelings are liars. I can feel something one minute and within the next minute I'm feeling something different and within the next minute I'm feeling something different. I used to joke with people in counseling. They'd say you could come in here and be all happy and be excited and smiling and I'd reach over the desk and slap you across the head. You're going to go from happy to angry in a second.
Speaker 1:Feelings change. Circumstances change feelings. People's words change feelings. Anything Rain changes feelings. I feel different when it's raining than I do when it's sunny and nice and bright outside.
Speaker 1:Everything around us, in our environment, can mess with our feelings. That's why you can't depend on feelings to be your truth. It's never going to work out. But here's the one thing feelings do. They change what you believe is true about you. So many people, because so many people, may say I know the truth or I've heard the truth, but because I'm feeling this way, I'm going to just attach myself to what I'm feeling. People walk around every day and say I'm depressed, I'm this, I'm that. They put all these identities on them. That's why Paul teaches us to be transformed by renewing of the mind. Paul wasn't an idiot. Paul had it going on. I love studying his stuff. See, it's a mindset shift. It's not about a behavior or a physical modification. Just like the boys trying to be girls and girls trying to be boys, they make a physical modification to their bodies to try to get their bodies to line up with their feelings. But their feelings is never going to change.
Speaker 1:Truth of DNA I don't care what you cut off, the DNA stays the same. Let me stop there, because we can go into a lot of stuff right here. What if a prince fell in the mud? Boom, he's still a prince. Get up, clean yourself off and go on. You're still a prince. But a Christian falls into something and he changes from Christian to hypocrite the only time that we do a name change because of what you've done. Why can't it just be a Christian? That made a mistake and I need to transform my thinking and be renewed in my mind to what, to who I really am.
Speaker 1:That's what happened with the prodigal son. He got renewed in his mind for an instant. He said this ain't where I belong. I belong in daddy's house. You know what that meant. You got to read between the lines I belong in daddy's house, which, if I belong in daddy's house, you know what that meant. You've got to read between the lines I belong in Daddy's house, which, if I belong in Daddy's house, that means I'm a son, because I can't say I belong in Daddy's house if I don't see myself as a son.
Speaker 1:But then, somewhere along the path home, condemnation kicked in, guilt kicked in, feelings kicked in. I call it the road of feelings. When he was headed home, because all this stuff kicked in. I'm just reading and kind of thinking through the story. It don't say what happened all the way on his way home. But he stood up in the mud and said I'm a son, I don't belong here, and he turned and he went home. But before he got home he said I'm not worthy, just make me a servant. Somewhere along that path he lost sight of his identity Again. The Bible don't give us a walkthrough of what happened, but I'm just kind of using common sense and saying he probably was walking along and just thinking about all this money that he wasted and all the things that he wasted it on and all the stuff that he had just participated in and really got a feeling a certain way. And those feelings kept going and kept going and kept going and all of a sudden they become a belief system to him. And before he walked up to that house he said it's not working, take me back as a servant. Luckily, his Daddy had enough wisdom to know that he's a son and he'll always be a son. No matter what he done, he's always going to be a son. Feelings are powerful, but they're not truth.
Speaker 1:The last one Does this teaching promote careless living? I won't go too much into this, because we talked about this a lot last week too, I think. Does teaching promote careless living? What do I mean by this question? Right here, a lot of people and I've said this last week, a lot of people do not feel like you can just believe in the finished work, believe what the Bible says about you and live a life without sin. I guess the truth is not powerful enough. So we've got to convict you. We've got to keep staying on you about what you need to do and telling you how hot hell's going to be to keep you straight.
Speaker 1:Grace empowers righteousness, not sin, sin. Romans 6, 1 and 2. Look at this verse with me. A couple more verses. We talked about this a little bit the other day as well, and I love that it's addressed here too, because this is what some people think too that if I'm believing in just grace and I'm believing in a finished work and there's nothing I have to do to work for it and there's nothing I have to do to earn it they think that I'm just out here living a life of doing what I want to do and I'm going to continue in a certain place. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin? That grace may abound? Certainly not. How shall we who died to sin live in it any longer. Now you've got to look at what Paul is saying right here.
Speaker 1:Paul is addressing a potential misunderstanding of grace by the people during that time. See, when I say that, I'm not saying you misunderstand grace, I'm talking about context. And who was Paul talking to? He was talking to people back during this time and he was talking to them because there seemed to him to be a misunderstanding of what grace was. So he began talking to them because there seemed to him to be a misunderstanding of what grace was. So he began to teach them In chapter 5. And then he explained that where sin increased, god's grace abounded even more. Now think about that just a minute. Where sin increases, god's grace abounds even more. I could see where that would make somebody say, well, if I want more grace, then I've got to sin more, Because where there's more sin there's more grace. So this happened. You can go back and read the story. So Paul recognized this and he said I've got to go in there and correct that, because they're misunderstanding what grace is. So he went in and he corrected it. God's grace abounded in Romans 5 and 20. He said Some might take this to mean that sinning more would bring more grace.
Speaker 1:The more you understand grace, the more you, I believe, the more you understand the love of God, the more you understand the grace of God, the more you'll understand the true love of God. Luke 7 and 47 says he who is forgiven much loves much. He who is forgiven much loves much. And you see that With people. I know people that's been through some stuff and the heart that they have Because of what they've been through. They've been forgiven much. So they love much. And in 1 John 4, 19,. It says we love Him because he first loved us. We don't love Him to get into heaven. We don't love Him to gain something. We love Him because he first loved us.
Speaker 1:Sin will lose its appeal when you truly understand the depth of God's love and grace. When I understand grace and I understand love, you don't have to beat me down with sin, with condemnation and telling me how hell's going to be. You don't have to scare me. You don't have to try to put fear in me. When I understand the grace and the love of God, it changes everything. Legalism, folks and we see so much legalism in the church. Legalism breeds rebellion, but grace produces a holiness. Live in grace and you will live in victory, understand grace and the love of God and again it's a game changer. And the love of God. And again it's a game changer. There's so much. I told you I was going to get through this quick Rain stopped. There's so much more I want to go into, but it's things that I want to break it apart and teach it individually, because there's just so much.
Speaker 1:But I want you to think about those three questions, because I made this statement before and I said that if you want to start talking about what we're teaching to people, and if you believe it, then we should talk about it. We talk about hypocrites all the time, but a hypocrite is for me to stand up in this pulpit and preach this and preach the finished work and then go out there and start talking to somebody about everything that's in the future. That's a hypocrite. If I believe this, then I'm going to talk to people about this, but it's hard because they're going to ask questions. These are some of the questions. There's more. There's a lot of other questions they'll ask too. But if we can understand, help people to understand that seeing sin as a mentality rather than a behavior to me that is a good starting point, probably the best starting point, because everything else in the church revolves around sin.
Speaker 1:Whether you're a Christian, whether you're a hypocrite, whether you're going to walk through the pearly gates or you're going to burn in hell, all depends on sin. Have you been forgiven of it or not? So if we can just tell the truth and say, yes, I have, and I know I have, because Jesus died on the cross to take me out of that place, I am dead to it. I am a new creation. Old things have passed away. I am dead to it. I am a new creation. Old things have passed away. I am a new person. I don't fight sin every day. I don't have to wake up and try to battle this thing every day. Yes, I'll make mistakes along the way. Yes, I may wake up next week and do something stupid, crazy, crazy.
Speaker 1:Why did I put that little saying in about the prince? Because it's so simple but it's so profound. Because if the prince can fall in the mud and still be a prince, why can't a Christian mess up and still be a Christian? And some people would say, well, if he's still a Christian, he's going to burn in hell. Why can't we believe in the redemption that we preach about. Why can't we believe in the forgiveness that we preach about? Listen, we don't have the market cornered on redemption and forgiveness.
Speaker 1:Every church is preaching that. Every church is preaching it, but we are looking at it a little bit different. And if we believe this is truth, then why would you withhold that from somebody that's lost? You're walking in the dark. You're going to show them the way out. You got a flashlight in your pocket. You don't want to take it out. And what's going to happen? You're going to run into the same ditch they run into. Take the light, the knowledge and share it. It's not going to be easy. You're going to get called some stuff, but it's okay, because I just always turn it around and go back to the Bible. They can say I'm wrong, but they can't say the Bible's wrong. So just everything we're saying is going right back to the Word of God.