The Rock Family Worship Center

LIVING FROM VICTORY

The Rock Family Worship Center Alma, GA with Pastor Bryan Taylor

We explore the shift from striving “for” victory to living “from” victory, grounding the idea in Scripture, story, and practice. We press on from assurance, not anxiety, and show how this changes prayer, words, service, and community impact.

• victory defined as Christ’s finished work, not future earning 
• mindset shift from fear and striving to assurance and authority 
• power of words and confession aligned with Scripture 
• David and Goliath as a model of practiced confidence 
• healing testimony without denying reality 
• prayer from completion rather than begging 
• scholarship analogy: action flowing from assurance 
• pressing on in Philippians 3 without performance theology 
• inclusion, identity, and acceptance over religious gatekeeping 
• living triumph publicly: fragrance of Christ in daily life 
• critiquing “fight” narratives and reframing growth as awakening 
• practical steps to speak life, serve freely, and act with peace

I will not strive for what Christ has already secured and finished. I will not beg for what He's already given. I will live from victory because the battle is already won.


SPEAKER_00:

You know, asking the question of you know living living from victory. I've heard people say all the time, how do we truly live from victory? Um and I'm I'm asking this question like this because there's a difference in living for victory and living from victory. Big difference in that. It's a different mindset. If I'm living for it, then I'm expecting it to come someday. I'm waiting on it. There's an expectation, there's a hope for it. And that's that's great. There's nothing wrong with that. But you know how frustrating it gets to live for something that I already have now? If I already have access to it, if I already can operate in it now, if I can already live from it now, and I'm sitting here every day waiting on it, that can get really frustrating. So I was reading something a couple days ago, and this kind of something hit me on this victory, and I wanted to talk about it. Um let me ask you this: have you ever thought about what victory really is? I always like to start off with definitions. I like, you know, because I feel like if to truly understand something, we've got to go back and ask ourselves, what does it really mean? Uh, if I was to go around and poll people into church, churches all over Bacon County or wherever, and I ask them what victory means, most of them would probably give me a definition and say it's a it's a prize that we have to fight for. Uh it's a struggle that we're having, we're gonna have to win, um it's a mountain we have to climb. Every definition given, a lot of times, is something in the future that we're trying to achieve. But real victory isn't really about your effort. It's not something that you're working for, that you're trying to achieve in the future. If we changed our mindset and said it's not even about us, it's not about our effort, but the real victory is what Jesus has already accomplished, what he's already done. If we look at it from that perspective, the fight's already over. Okay? The enemy has been defeated, and we know this says it in the words, this is not my opinion. Fight's over, the enemy's been defeated, and your life is already secure in Christ. So let me ask you this: are you living your life as someone who is trying to win a victory or as someone who is already victorious? That's a question I think we need to ask ourselves and continue to ask ourselves because sometimes uh we can we can be living from a place of victory, and if something happens in our life and we drift back off into that one day mindset. But if we're already living from a place of victory, then it changes my perspective on everything. Because here's the truth. If the battle is already won, and I believe that because that's what the word says, if the battle's already won, there's no reason to still be running around in fear. There's no reason to be running around all stressed out, you know, about what's gonna happen in the future. Like I said the other day, everybody's stressed out and selling everything because you know the rapture was gonna happen on the 23rd, you know, and now all those people's looking like fools because they ain't got no home or no car because they sold them. I mean, it's just crazy what people was what people was doing. Why? Because they're stressed out, they're frustrated about something that they thought was gonna happen. But if we if we believe that the fight is already over, the battle's been won, Jesus has already done everything that he came to accomplish, then we don't run around in fear. We don't run around stressed out and wondering what's gonna happen. We realize that it's already been won. The fight is over. Paul says it best in 1 Corinthians 15 and 57. I got several verses I want you to look at with me. They're short verses, so I can just read them, but I want you to see them. 1 Corinthians 15 and 57 says, but thanks be to God who gives us what? Victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01:

Let me go back a couple of words there.

SPEAKER_00:

Who sells it to you, who does it if you do enough good things. According to this word right here, that he gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. It don't say that he helps us fight for victory, like it's some kind of futuristic thing. He gives it to us. It's a gift. You don't have to earn it, you just have to live from it. Realize it's already mine, he's already given it to me, and all I have to do is live from this place. Oftentimes, I think what the problem is, and this is, I think, true of most Christians, is we can't believe that our victory is already ours. We can't wrap our minds around that. Because all we've been taught throughout church history is that one day, one day in the by and by, one day when you get to heaven, one day when this old world is gone, one day when you pass on to the other side. All these songs that we sing and everything else that we talk about is always pushing us toward this mindset of one day we will get it. But we live as though as if our performance will secure God's blessing, as if our good deeds or our prayers or our striving is what you know kind of tips the scales for him. But Jesus said in John 19, 30, it is finished. Everything you need for victory was completed on the cross. Can you imagine if we actually started to believe that? And that would really step on some toes of some Christians. Because we're quick to say we believe the Bible until you pull a little scripture out of the Bible and say, Are you walking in this?

SPEAKER_01:

And then we have to question it.

SPEAKER_00:

If he says it's finished, and I'm not walking in the finished work, then I have to question what is it that's stopping me from believing what his word says?

SPEAKER_01:

Look at Romans 8 and 37. I love this verse.

SPEAKER_00:

Yet it is yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. Now, here's the key to it. I didn't have time to go back and break this verse down.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh but you have to ask yourself the question in all these things, what things?

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, that's a question when I read this verse that I that I question. He says, in all these things you are more than conquerors. So my first question is, what things is he talking about? I don't have time to go on that. You can go back about two to three verses and you can look at it and it'll tell you in what things. But my question is this, what if we just believed? What if we believed these verses enough that we would confess them? What if we truly believed that no matter what happens in my life, no matter what comes up in my life, that I truly am more than a conqueror? Not because I'm perfect, not because I did something right, but because Jesus did something right. What if I just took him at his word and truly believed what the scripture says? Can you imagine how our lives would change?

SPEAKER_01:

I just took him at his word.

SPEAKER_00:

See, words have power. And we don't have to go to this one, but we know in Proverbs it says the life and death lies in the power of the tongue. Your words, what you're speaking over your life, what you're speaking over yourself, it has, these words have power. Think about that.

SPEAKER_01:

And then ask yourself the question: what am I speaking over myself? Am I speaking fear? Am I speaking life? Am I speaking death? Am I speaking lack? Or am I speaking victory? Which I already have.

SPEAKER_00:

Am I speaking that over myself? When I was putting this together, I thought about David. Uh, and when David faced Goliath, we all know the story. But David didn't run, didn't face Goliath and run out to him, you know, saying, I hope we can survive this. I hope I can do this. He ran toward Goliath saying, The Lord has delivered me before and he'll deliver me today. He had a mindset going after this giant that it wasn't even a question of, am I going to be able to do this? He had a mindset of saying, He's already done it, so I'm not afraid of this. It's already completed. The battle has been won. David went into it with a victorious mindset. And speaking of vic, you know, speaking victory doesn't deny reality. I hear some people say all the time, well, I don't like speaking that because you know, things still happen in life. Bad things still happen. I didn't hope to be sitting up here in a cast, but bad things still happen. Sometimes we deal with it. Okay? But here's the thing: it is not denying reality. I was telling Bam last night we were talking. I hate the fact that I had to go have surgery. But you know, I went three months with a ruptured tendon with absolutely no pain in my body, walking around every day for three months. And when I asked the doctor, said, How is that possible? He said, I have no idea how that was possible. So even though I had to go have surgery, I still look and say, look how God protected it for those three months that I was walking on it, running on it, jumping on the trampoline with Tucker, doing all these things that I was doing, everyday things, and it never bothered me. Until it just got one point and I said, I could tell I said, something something's off a little bit, something's you know wrong. And I got it looked at, but I should have been in pain. It should have been to a place where I couldn't walk around every day on it like that, but it wasn't.

SPEAKER_01:

So what are we speaking?

SPEAKER_00:

I woke up and I still, every day I wake up and I speak healing. Every day I wake up and I say, Lord, this thing's healed in the name of Jesus. It is healed. It's healed. It's going back every ligament, every tendon, every bone, everything that is going back into creative order, the way you created it, the way you established it. And I believe that. And some people would say, well, you're sitting there in a cast because you just had surgery. How does that not shake your faith a little bit? Because it don't. I can't always explain it, but the fact that I had to go have surgery don't shake my faith because I've seen him be faithful too many times. So it doesn't make me question anything.

SPEAKER_01:

But but our words matter.

SPEAKER_00:

And again, I want to want you to hear this speaking from a place of victory does not deny reality. It does not. It declares God's reality above my own. I'm declaring what God has already said in his word. What you say changes your perspective on things. It changes your faith, it changes your atmosphere that's around you. But it does not change what Jesus has already accomplished and what he's already finished. And he said, he said, it's done, it's finished. He says, by his stripes, we are healed. So I don't wake up every day and say, God, will you please heal me? I'm not a beggar anymore. That used to be my every day, every Sunday I'd go to the altar and I was a beggar. I would beg for God to do this and I would beg for God to do that. And that's the mentality I had. That my life was in a mess because I was just a poor old sinner and I could not make it. Every day I was going to mess up. So every Sunday I had to run to the altar and I had to beg God to forgive me for everything that I'd done and beg him to make it right. And then one day it hit me, I said, you know what, I'm not a beggar anymore. I'm going to trust what he says already accomplished. I'm going to trust in his word when he says it is finished. And then I started learning that what some of these words mean. That confession did not mean to say it out loud, but confession means to speak what he's already spoken, to say the same thing. So I took his word, and nowhere in his word did I see him say, beg for something. I seen him say, believe that this is already done. Confess that this is already done. So I just basically, that was a repentance. I repented. I changed the way I was thinking. And instead of begging for something, I started confessing something. I started taking my words and making them line up with what his word already said. Lord, your word says this, and I confess that. I'm not begging for it, I'm not asking for it. And when people start hearing you pray like that, it gets, they they they look at you kind of sideways sometimes. Because your prayer life is a total shift from what it was. It's really weird when you hear somebody pray from a finished work perspective for the first time. And and they leave a beggar mentality behind and they go, they they grab on to finished work and they start praying and confessing what's already done.

SPEAKER_01:

Think about this right here. Think about a parent whose child gets a scholarship to college.

SPEAKER_00:

Out of high school, we got good grades or athletic or whatever it may be. They got a scholarship to college. This parent does not just sit around now thinking, well, everything's paid for. Nothing else to do. They still have to fill out applications, they still have to sign paperwork, they still have to find housing, they still have to do all there's a bunch of stuff they got to do to prepare their child to go and take advantage of that scholarship. And I and I think about that because that's something that happens in real life. And it's no different when it comes to our spiritual life. See, the differences with these parents is they're not panicking anymore. They're not wondering what I am going to do, like a lot of parents do anymore. Why? Because it's done. There's still stuff they have to do, but the main part of it is done. They're not stressing out anymore. Their actions flow from a confidence in what has already been secured. See, that's exactly how it works in spiritual life. When you live from victory, you still serve, you still work, you still love, you still persevere, but you do it from a place of freedom and a place of confidence. Not fear, not desperation. See, beggars are desperate.

SPEAKER_01:

Beggars are desperate, they beg. I don't I don't beg anymore. I mean, some people say this is crazy. I don't even ask anymore. I decree a thing. Decrees are different. Confession is different than asking or begging.

SPEAKER_00:

Now I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying as you grab on to this, your mindset shifts on that. I'm not saying anybody's prayer life that asked for something from God is wrong. I'm just saying you you change, your mindset shifts as you begin to see this a little bit differently. You act with purpose because the outcome is already guaranteed by Christ. So I'm not asking for it anymore. I'm I'm expecting fully expecting it, and I operate out of that confidence. I operate out of something that's already done, and I'm fully my expectation is fully set on, I've got this. It's complete. Look at this verse here, Philippians 3.

SPEAKER_01:

Look at uh 12 through 14. It's important to look at as well.

SPEAKER_00:

It's not that I have already attained or am already perfected, because I that's what I want to put here. Because sometimes when you preach this finished work, that's what some people are, that's why some people are turned off from this. Because they think you've developed this attitude that you've already arrived and you're already there, and you ain't got to ask God for nothing. He answers it right here. Not that I have already attained or I am already perfected, but I press on that I may lay hold of that which Christ Jesus has laid hold of for me. He's trying to grab on to what's already there. Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended, but one thing I do forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead. I press forward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. This is a powerful set of verses right here if you go back and study them out. And what Paul was saying, just to sum it up, Paul wasn't being lazy because he had Christ. He pressed forward. He moved forward, but he pressed on from the place of victory and not to try to earn it. He already knew what was his. He keeps putting this thing on Facebook over and over, and it keeps hitting me every time. Don't call ourselves, don't say we're a church of the community if we're not impacting the community. I'm telling you, it's hitting me more and more and more every time I see it. And I think we're we're getting to a place to where we've got to start impacting more. I think right now we're in a learning place. We're taking some of this and we're just feeding on it and feeding on it and feeding on it. And I'm telling you, a lot of this I've said over and over and over, probably till you're tired of hearing it. But there's a reason that I'm saying it because we got to keep hearing it to be able to get it in us. And then when we get ready, we're going out into these communities and we're gonna start impacting and influencing people in the community. But we're gonna do it in the right way. We're gonna do it in a way that's that's that's gonna bring them forward, bring them uh to a different place, and not bring them to a place of religion and bondage because that's what a lot of the church does. I'm saying church overall, not a specific place. The church overall, a lot of times it brings you to a place of bondage, it brings you to a place of just being stuck. I don't want to bring people to that. I want to bring people to freedom. I want to bring people to a place of them understanding no matter where you've been in your life, no matter what you've done, no matter what you've gone through, you're welcome. You are just as welcome as that other guy who thinks he never made a mistake. Because they're out there, there's some of them that they're semi-perfect, they think they're perfect. They never made a mistake, they grew up in church, they've had the anointing on them since they were little, they they glow in the dark, they think they are perfect, and you are just as anointed. The same God that lives in them lives in you.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't matter where you've been at. Our goal is to get people to see that.

SPEAKER_00:

Our goal is to get people to wake up to the fact that what this word says is true about you just as much as it's true about somebody standing behind a pulpit. It's true about every single one of us. But people don't see it. Because they've been beat down, they've been told they're not good enough, they've been told to get their act cleaned up first. And that's to me, that's just that's not the Bible. Nowhere in there that it's say, you know. What if Jesus would have looked at the guy on the cross beside him and said, Well, get cleaned up first and then I'll welcome you. Well, he didn't have time to get cleaned up, he was fixing to die. He said, Today you will be with me in paradise. He didn't, he didn't unless they just forgot to put it in the Bible. He didn't pray the prayer of salvation with him. He didn't do it. I can't find anywhere in the Bible, and I've literally searched and said, Show me one place in the Bible where Jesus prayed a prayer of salvation with anybody.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, there's nothing wrong with it. It's a tool. Like a hammer.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a tool that you can use. But it's not, we have turned a tool into a theology. And we have said, if you haven't done this, then you're not born again.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's not right.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's turned people away. It's a tool. If we need to use that, if somebody needs that, great. If somebody woke up after this service and said, Will you pray with me? Absolutely. But I would also tell you it's not necessary to learn to speak to him on your own. Learn to talk to him just like you talk to anybody else. That's all we're saying. And people call us crazy for saying that, but I'm just pat I'm I'm just trying to take what we're saying and pattern it after what Jesus said and what the disciples were taught.

SPEAKER_01:

How do we walk it out? That's the big thing.

SPEAKER_00:

It's one thing to say it, it's one thing to preach it, it's one thing to sit out here and hear it. But how do we actually get to a place of walking this thing out? Victory isn't just internal. It isn't just something that makes us feel good, that's spiritual, that's on the inside. It has to be lived. Look what Paul said in 2 Corinthians 2 and 14. This is uh, and I think this will help us when we look at how do we walk this thing out, what purpose does it serve. Now, thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ and through us diffuses the fragrance of his knowledge in every place. Now, this is a verse that sounds kind of weird. You have to go back and study it a little bit to truly get what it's saying here. But basically, what he's saying is God, everywhere that you go, God goes before you. Preparing it. You know, we we say it always he's going to prepare the way. He does. He goes in, he prepares things for us. Okay. Our love, our service, our perseverance, that's how victory becomes visible. A king doesn't act like a beggar after receiving the crown. He's the king, he's in authority. He walks with authority. Colossians 2.15 says that Christ disarmed the powers and authorities and made public spectacle of them. Living from victory affects not only your life, but also the spiritual world around you, everything you come into contact with, every person that comes into contact with you. And that's why I say when you really get this word inside you, this finished work, this inclusion, understanding this from a different perspective, you can't not show this to other people.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm I'm guilty too.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm just as guilty of speaking what I know that I know, and then talking to somebody else and backing off a little bit. Because I don't want to ruin the conversation. I don't want to push, feel like I'm pushing them off, gonna push them off. I'm guilty of that too. But the more I understand and the more I see the ignorance of where people are, the more I'm starting to say, I can't keep doing that. We got to tell them the truth. They may not agree with it, they may not like it, but and I'm not saying you're truth, I'm saying the biblical truth.

SPEAKER_01:

We've got it, we've got to share it with them. So I want to ask you one more quick time.

SPEAKER_00:

What would change if you stopped fighting for victory and started living from it? How would your faith, your words, your actions, how would all that change? I think you would stop striving every day, you would stop begging, you would stop worrying, you would stop working so hard to try to please a God who's already pleased. The battle's already been won, the victory is yours according to the word. Here's what I want I want you to declare with me today. I will not strive for what Christ has already secured and finished. I will not beg for what He's already given. I will have I will live from victory because the battle is already won. Many pastors focus on spiritual growth as a process. And I wrote this at the end because I got to thinking when I was reading when I wrote this and I was reading back over it, my first thought was why don't why is people not teaching this? That's that's kind of been my number one thing lately. Is if this is true, because I actually had somebody ask that question. If this is true, then why are more people not teaching it? If this is true, if this is biblical, then you should be able to come to this church and hear it, go to church of God and hear it, go out to Methodist church and hear it, go to the Baptist church. If it's big Bible, we should go to any church that's preaching the Bible and we should hear the same message. But if you've been to any other churches, you know we're not. We're not hearing the same messages in all the church. So that's something I start to question saying, why? And this is what I think many pastors focus on spiritual growth as a process obedience, discipline, uh moral striving to try to get to a certain place. So their sermons emphasize fighting for the faith. We hear those words a lot, fighting for the faith, rather than recognizing that victory has already been won. Some sermons teach me to fight, and some sermons teach me to rest. I used to teach fight. I mean, I I was all about that. You got to contend for the faith. All these verses, I'm not, they're they they're in the Bible. So I'm not saying these pastors are wrong by any means. Those verses that they're coming with are in the Bible.

SPEAKER_01:

Put in context. I don't fight anymore, I don't contend anymore.

SPEAKER_00:

I live from. I realize he's completed the work for me. I have to wake up, I have to open my eyes and live from a place of victory.

SPEAKER_01:

And this is and I think the reason it's told.

SPEAKER_00:

So much like this is because a lot of people don't think as Christians that we can do what we're supposed to do. And I said this last week that you will become a lazy Christian and you won't do what you're supposed to do. You'll just sit back, kick back, and do nothing. I don't believe that. I believe when you live from victory, that it pushes you to do some things. You won't sit back and get lazy. I don't think the church gives Christians enough credit for who we really are. It's like we got to just push them every little way and tell them which way to go and what to do. And, you know, I've always believed that. Don't tell somebody what to think. Just get them to think. I don't want to be a robot. I don't want people in here to think just like I think. Don't just think for yourself.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just opening scripture up and throwing it out there and saying, just think about this. How much of your spiritual life is driven by fear or striving rather than confidence?

SPEAKER_00:

Confidence in the finished work. Historically, much of the Christianity has emphasized effort and that we have to earn blessings. We got to work for that. You do this and you do it the right way, then God will bless you with this. Messages about resisting or resting in Christ's victory can feel like radical or counter, you know, uh intuitive. It's not, it's not radical. I don't see how we can call something radical that's actually coming straight out of the Bible. And I guess the only way we can look at it like that is because it may not be being taught over here. So if somebody's never heard it, then they say that's a radical message. But really it comes right back to the to the Bible. Some pastors worry that, and I think this is the biggest thing, some pastors worry that teaching believers they are already victorious uh could be misunderstood. And again, that that people would get lazy with their belief. They would become lazy Christians or entitled Christians. I don't have to do anything. But I have to ask you how much of your spiritual life is driven by fear, again, and how much is driven by your confidence in the finished work. That makes a big difference. And I think there's pastors out there too, and I'll share a little later this conversation why I think this with you. But I think there's pastors out there who believe in Christ's victory. They really do. I think they truly understand it, but they often frame their teaching around the behavioral transformation rather than a reality of the victory itself. Because some churches are up under denominations. They have to teach certain things. I understand. I'm not naive to that. I understand that. That's why we're not up under a denomination, and we never will be. Because nobody's going to tell me how to preach the Bible from a standpoint of it has to be taught, you know, a certain way. We're not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'll turn this over to somebody else. So I do it. So I understand where that comes from. The the, you know, if you take the Church of God or you take the Baptist, you know, they have an oversight. And that oversight tells them exactly what they can speak on and what they can't speak on and how they are to frame it. And they have to follow those guidelines. Why? Because they get funding from that organization. We don't have anybody over us that gives us funding. So therefore, there's not anybody that's going to tell us how we have to preach certain things. Um, that's a good thing. Now it'd be nice to have somebody just funnel money down to us, but uh not at the expense of telling me how to preach the word. So uh we're never we're never gonna go there. We have oversight. Don't misunderstand me. I have a pastor, Pastor Marlon is my oversight. So if anything comes up or I need him, or he hears something, sees something that is wrong, he's gonna get with me. We're not just out here on an island. I mean, I have people that oversee me, but uh he don't call me and tell me how to preach it. I think historically that's one of the things with Christianity, too, is it's hard for us to live from a place of victory because we're taught something different from the pulpits.

SPEAKER_01:

So here's a question for you. Are we confusing growth and faith with earning our salvation? If I look at growth in faith as a process that I'm earning, then that means I'm doing something to achieve it.

SPEAKER_00:

But if I turn around and say, Well, Jesus, what he finished on the cross when he said it is finished, is already there. It's already done. And all I want to do, my goal is to just awaken people to that fact and then help them walk out their true understanding of their identity in Christ. I'm not trying to persuade them to do work and all so that God will love them, so that they can be more holy, or they can be more blessed.

SPEAKER_01:

He's done everything. And finally, consider this.

SPEAKER_00:

How might embracing a victory mindset transform your daily choices? Things you do on a daily basis, your words, how you live, whether you live in depression or whether you live with peace, whether you live angry or whether you live with peace. Living from victory is not about laziness or it's not about ignoring responsibility. It's about acting from a place of confidence, not desperation. I'm not desperate anymore for the things of God. You know, the things of this hit me the other day, and I had to come to terms with this. And I sit there and thought about it, and I said, you know, the things of God that's already been given to me is everything. I mean, literally, he's given me everything. He says, I have supplied everything you need.

SPEAKER_01:

And the first thought that came to me is, why am I not walking in everything? You know, that's my choice.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, there's things that I'm not walking in that I haven't chose to walk in yet. It's not because God's withholding it from me. It's because I haven't opened my eyes up to the fact yet that it's already mine, that I do have access to it. My mindset has to shift to that. So living from victory is not about laziness or ignoring responsibility. It's about acting from confidence, not desperation, moving with authority, not fear, loving and serving from freedom, not from obligation. Too many times the church teaches us that we're obligated to do certain things. But if you truly know who you are, you're just gonna do them anyway. I mean, that's that's who you are. You're gonna do something out of love, not to earn love. You're gonna do it because that's what that's what's on the inside of you. God is love. He's on the inside of you, he's one with you. So everything you do will operate out of that place of love. I'm not doing it to get him to love me.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's what we're told a lot of times. And I know that because I've heard people say it. I've heard people ask the question of what can I do to get God to accept me? And it sounds bad when you tell them nothing, but it's the truth. Wake up. But we get to share a message with them that you're already accepted.

SPEAKER_00:

You are already loved, you're already redeemed, you're already accepted, you're already forgiven. God's not holding it. Because then as soon as you say that, they say, Well, you don't know what I've done. It don't matter. Don't matter what you've done, he's not holding your sins against you. And all we're trying to do, and all we're teaching, is to teach people how to wake up and see it.

SPEAKER_01:

It sounds like a really easy message. And it really is. It is a very simple message.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's the one Jesus taught. It's the one the disciples taught. I know there's other verses in there that people would come up and say, yeah, but they're in there. Yes, he's holy.

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He's a wrathful God too.

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Out of context, you can say that. Do you understand what wrath means? When you ask them that question, a lot of times they don't. So you can't you can't talk with them because you have to say, okay, go under go read that scripture, study that word, and then come back and tell me what that word wrath is that you're talking about. Because it don't mean what you think it means. It don't mean God's bringing the hammer down on you. That ain't what it's saying.

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But it's hard to get people to see that.

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I said the other day that I think that we are, and I say this, not I'm not saying me, I'm seeing our church as a forerunner in this area for teaching me. Not just because we're the only one doing it right now, but because more and more people are kind of taking little bites at a time. And we're gonna have an opportunity because we've got a group of people here learning this and catching this and living this. And when it happens, and more people start saying, I want that, I want that, I want more of that, then we've got people here, and we will be the forerunners in bringing this forward into this community. I believe that. I don't know how that's gonna happen yet. I don't know what it's gonna look like, but I do believe it. That was actually prophesied over us too. Uh so I believe that's gonna happen.