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**Speaker 2** (00:01:14) - All right, let's dive in today's episode. All right, you guys. Welcome to another episode of the Profitable Nomad Couple podcasts. This is a really big day for us because it is the first time we have ever had a guest on our podcast as well as we are meeting our social media bestie <laugh>. So we're super excited to introduce Lulu. So Lulu, welcome to the show.

**Speaker 3** (00:01:38) - Thank you so much. Uh, yeah, I'm so, so happy to be your first guest and being very rarely honored. And yeah, I'm Lulu Noma, mom from Hamburg, which is located in Northern Germany. And so I'm very sorry Yeah, for my German accent and for my improvable English. I hope you can understand me.

**Speaker 1** (00:01:59) - No, I think having your German accent on our show is actually improving the quality

**Speaker 2** (00:02:02) - Of our podcast. Oh, definitely.

**Speaker 3** (00:02:04) - <laugh>

**Speaker 1** (00:02:05) - Super to have you here.

**Speaker 3** (00:02:07) - <laugh>.

**Speaker 2** (00:02:08) - Definitely. Yeah. So go ahead and tell our guests a little bit about yourself first of all, starting with, where are you in the world right now?

**Speaker 3** (00:02:15) - We are in Bali right now, uh, for three months, which is like our sweet spot to stay at one place. We found out that three month is enough to, um, yeah, discover a place, but also enough to not being bored of a place. Um, so we have like three weeks left and then we will go back to Thailand, which is kind of our base.

**Speaker 2** (00:02:38) - Yeah. And you guys are in um, like Bangkok area right? When you based in Thailand.

**Speaker 3** (00:02:42) - Um, also, but mostly in Copan in the south. So known for its great full moon parties, but it also has very feasible family friendly side, so I can highly recommend to come to Copan.

**Speaker 2** (00:02:55) - Oh, that's awesome. I'm sad we missed you. We were just in Thailand last month and so we just barely missed. That would've been fun. Yes,

**Speaker 3** (00:03:03) - Yes. And now you're in Cambodia, right?

**Speaker 2** (00:03:05) - Yes. Yep.

**Speaker 1** (00:03:06) - Yeah, there's a very high chance that we'll be back in Thailand, though. We loved it

**Speaker 2** (00:03:10) - There. Oh, Thailand.

**Speaker 1** (00:03:11) - Question. Understand why you wanna keep going back.

**Speaker 3** (00:03:13) - Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I I think there's a chance we need.

**Speaker 2** (00:03:16) - Yeah, I, I hope so. That'd be awesome. When you, when you say you home base in Thailand, do you guys have like a, an apartment that you guys rent long-term then, then you leave vacant when you go? Or do you find a new place to rent every time you come back to Thailand?

**Speaker 3** (00:03:28) - I think it would be very smart to have a long-term rental there. <laugh>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But we, yeah. Our idea of being a digital nomad always was to be as free as possible. So we don't have a real home base and, and as speaking of a physical space, so we don't have a long-term rental. Uh, we always have to find our new home, which is cool too because we, um, can discover different places on the island.

**Speaker 2** (00:03:54) - Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah,

**Speaker 1** (00:03:56) - I like that. Cuz Monica and I have discovered like when we go to a place, we also like to stay for about the same amount of time. You said anywhere from, from one to one to four months is kind of our sweet spot. Sometimes we'll go somewhere and we'll discover after having booked a place that there's a lot of other great places that we could have stayed. And so to be able to go back and kind of, uh, handpick each time you go and discover new places, that's

**Speaker 3** (00:04:19) - Nice. Yeah, exactly. I think it's the more expensive way to do it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but also the more adventurous

**Speaker 2** (00:04:26) - <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. How long have you and your family been traveling?

**Speaker 3** (00:04:30) - We started in October, 2019, so now it's like three and a half, almost four years.

**Speaker 2** (00:04:36) - Okay, cool.

**Speaker 1** (00:04:38) - And you have, uh, tell us how many kids you have.

**Speaker 3** (00:04:42) - Two kids. One, five year old and one, one and a half year old.

**Speaker 1** (00:04:46) - Okay. Awesome. So how has it been for them? How, how has the traveling around been for them and and growing up?

**Speaker 3** (00:04:52) - Yeah, so, um, the oldest one, Lila, she was born in Germany. So for her we saw okay, what changed with her in her life. And the youngest one was born in Thailand, so she never experienced another way of life. And um, yeah, I think so they have to like it <laugh>, there's no other <laugh> and uh, for now I think they're very happy with this life.

**Speaker 2** (00:05:16) - Yeah. That's awesome. I really wanna dig into that mark cause I'm really interested in that. But before we head there, um, can you tell us a little bit about the decision you guys made to travel and what kind of sparked this lifestyle for you guys?

**Speaker 3** (00:05:30) - So we always had this kind of feeling of not really fitting into the conventional lifestyle. Um, so yeah, we were so unhappy with the fact of having to work 10 hours per day per day in a stupid office, <laugh>, <laugh>, and, um, only for being able to afford a small flat in the city center of pembro. And my husband, for example, he worked so much, he barely saw his, uh, daughter only on weekends. And um, that's simply crazy that this is phenomenal lifestyle of so millions of people outside. So we decided that we have to change some something also, I mean, if you look at your, um, physical health to look at the screen 10 hours a day being forced to be in an office, uh, and to work at times, maybe you are not, uh, the most productive. Um, yeah, we thought this can't be right and we have had to change something. Yeah. I think like you guys did, right?

**Speaker 2** (00:06:27) - Yeah. Very similar.

**Speaker 1** (00:06:29) - So was this a decision that you and your husband made together or did one of you convince the other to pick up and and start traveling?

**Speaker 3** (00:06:37) - Um, I think we did it together. I remember one at one point it was an evening and we, um, put post-its on our wall in our living room and we said, okay, how can we change this lifestyle? And was either, um, moving into the countryside where the rents are lower or, um, making a sabbatical that is only a short time solution mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Or just completely living abroad. So we experienced or we saw at, in, at this evening that that's the only possibility for us long term. Mm-hmm.

**Speaker 2** (00:07:12) - <affirmative>. Yeah. That's

**Speaker 1** (00:07:13) - Awesome. That is awesome. So when you guys made that decision, you already had your first child, is that right?

**Speaker 3** (00:07:18) - Yes. Right. She was one and a half years old and, um, we made the decision to become digital moments and from this point on, we worked one year long towards this goal. So we both became freelancer. I'm a copywriter and voice over artist and my husband is a web designer like you guys, <laugh>. Awesome. And so we both with our jobs became freelancers and then had like one year to build up the client relationships and to organize everything.

**Speaker 1** (00:07:50) - Ah, that's so cool. There's, yeah, there's so many things I want to talk about from that. But I'm really curious to know when you, I'm assuming at some point you had to talk to your family about it, uh, parents or siblings. So when you told them and talked to them about it and you have a kid who's one and a half years old who you're gonna take with you, how did they react to that? What did they say?

**Speaker 3** (00:08:12) - Very, very different. <laugh>. So my family was a bit more open-minded because, uh, they too used to live in two different countries in France and Italy, uh, with us children. And uh, so they were like, oh yeah, cool. Good decision, <laugh>, tell us what we can do for you. They got it.

**Speaker 1** (00:08:33) - They understood

**Speaker 3** (00:08:35) - The family of my husband, uh, was like, oh my god, you will leave us and what about our grandchild was here again? So it took them a bit more time to yeah. Understand what's really happening and how we can manage that. They see each other anyway.

**Speaker 2** (00:08:53) - Yeah. That's so, so interesting. That's been one of the most interesting things to me as we've kind of become digital Noma, is just to see the different ways people react to it. Cuz some people get, I mean, we've had people in our family get really offended because they take it as we are leaving them and we're running away from them and it has nothing to do with them really, you know? So it's been fascinating to kind of see that play out.

**Speaker 3** (00:09:16) - Yeah. What was your extreme most extreme reaction you got from your friends or family members?

**Speaker 2** (00:09:22) - Yeah. Um, I still think a lot of our family is a little bit denial. They kind of think it's a phase that we're going through <laugh>.

**Speaker 3** (00:09:30) - Exactly. <inaudible>.

**Speaker 2** (00:09:31) - Yeah. And so I think Austen's mom is probably the word. Like she always sings. She like, she's holding onto our stuff. So we have, she has a storage kind of place like in the bottom in her basement. And so a lot of our stuff is there and she thinks that as long as our stuff is there that we're gonna end up living there someday. And so she's okay.

**Speaker 1** (00:09:50) - And my whole family has homesteaded together. Um, and so they, they have lands that they keep telling us whenever you're ready, like, we can build you a house and you can have a place on our land. Like it's, you know, like, we have a spot for you whenever you're ready to settle up. Yeah. We just keep telling them all right. Like,

**Speaker 2** (00:10:06) - Okay,

**Speaker 3** (00:10:08) - <laugh>, they've tried to

**Speaker 1** (00:10:10) - Explain that it's probably not gonna happen. I think they, and maybe in their head they know it's not gonna happen, but they keep pulling out of this hope that someday we'll join them.

**Speaker 3** (00:10:18) - That's a very, uh, cute way of, um, keeping you close and giving you uhhuh <affirmative> Yeah. The feeling that you're always welcome. Right, right.

**Speaker 2** (00:10:27) - Yeah, it's definitely, it's cute. It is. It is interesting though, like having those conversations. I didn't expect it to be as hard as it was. Like that wasn't ever something I took into consideration when we started traveling. So it's interesting that, um, your family also traveled and that you lived abroad, um, as a kid. Do you think that played into, um, like you considered that at all when you were thinking about raising your kids abroad?

**Speaker 3** (00:10:53) - I think so, yes. But because, um, many of our friends are saying, oh my god, um, I know so many friends from my early childhood that I'm still befriended with. So you're taking this away from your children. Yeah, and I live, uh, living a abroad lifestyle. I lived, um, don't have those friends from the early child childhood anymore. So that's one thing. Yes, of course I take it away from my children, but, but I've never experienced it myself, so mm-hmm. <affirmative> for me, it doesn't matter so much for like, for others. Yeah.

**Speaker 2** (00:11:28) - Yeah. That totally makes sense. Actually, we had a conversation on Instagram just the, uh, a day or so ago where, um, traveling really makes you reevaluate those friendships. Right? All of a sudden you like, you have evolved as a person and you continue evolving and then you go back to people that you've known from, you know, your past life and, and it seems like they haven't evolved as much. And then you really have to kind of evaluate to see if, if those relationships are worth having. So in a lot of ways I can see how traveling would actually help your kids form deeper relationships and more meaningful relationships.

**Speaker 3** (00:12:03) - Exactly. That's what I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's really you to, to just see like, um, yeah. How they are now able, or I can just talk about the, the older one because the baby of one and a half years isn't so represe in this case, but, uh, the older, the oldest one is forming relationships and they are so valuable and so important for her that she's still wants to, um, yeah. Every once in a while I have to send the mothers or parents of this child like, uh, WhatsApp message with a photo of, of Lila and or she, she draws a picture and I have to send it to them. And then we let her know, okay, in four months we will be back in Koana, then you will see her again. And so it's very cute to see that those tiny little young children already have the same relationship. Two relationships.

**Speaker 2** (00:12:55) - Yeah. Cute. That's amazing.

**Speaker 1** (00:12:57) - I love that.

**Speaker 2** (00:12:58) - I got goosebumps while you're talking about that. That's so cute.

**Speaker 3** (00:13:01) - <laugh>. Yeah. That's really cute.

**Speaker 2** (00:13:03) - So do you feel like traveling with your kids, uh, I mean, especially the older one has impacted her education and development in any way.

**Speaker 3** (00:13:13) - Um, so she's too young for regular school mm-hmm. <affirmative> yet. Um, which is quite nice for us because it's easy to just put her into like pre schools and kindergartens, which are much more playful and have a play playful approach. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but what I can see is that of course the obvious things, uh, like she learns different languages. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, she's English, German, and a little bit of Thai. And, um, yeah. What it's really cute to see is that she, um, gets to know those different, different cultures. So when we first put her into the first, uh, preschool and Shanghai, she came back and she started to write. So to put her hands together and to meditate and like, eh, what's, what are you doing? She's like, yeah, I learned this in school. So Wow. Um, that's very cute. So I think also as they have to go to different places and, um, very often, so they have to switch schools every three months. Um, so they, they are kind of self-confident, possibly more than they would have been back in Germany because they know Okay. And I know I will find new friends here. I know I will feel comfortable here. So, um, yeah, they're pretty confident in what they're worth.

**Speaker 1** (00:14:32) - Yeah. That's so awesome. I love, and first of all, I love how absorbent kids are and like, just by watching people and their parents or other adults do things, they pick up a lot. And then, um, I love that perspective on them actually gaining more confidence and being more comfortable with people and being more comfortable making new friends because they're doing it, it at such a young age, it's just gonna be a natural part of, of who your kids

**Speaker 3** (00:14:54) - Are. Exactly. Exactly.

**Speaker 1** (00:14:57) - What is your longer term plan for your kids' education? Like what's your schooling plan for them?

**Speaker 3** (00:15:02) - That's a good question. <laugh>, maybe you have a nice solution for us <laugh>

**Speaker 2** (00:15:08) - For the wrong people to ask. So ask <laugh>.

**Speaker 3** (00:15:12) - So I'm following many, many, uh, world schooling accounts on Instagram and Facebook and generally social media. And I'm very, very interested in how different the approaches are nowadays. And I'm honest we don't have a solution yet, but I think it's gonna be a mix of homeschooling and putting them into also language schools or project weeks or Yeah. We will see.

**Speaker 1** (00:15:39) - Yeah. Yeah. You'll, you'll definitely have to keep us updated on what you guys decide to do, cuz we're both really curious. Yeah. We obviously don't, we don't have kids. We've never had to make a plan for it, at least a solid plan, but I'm really curious to know all the different options out there. Like we, I've, I've heard about the options, but to just see it in action, it, it's really interesting to me.

**Speaker 3** (00:15:59) - Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 2** (00:16:00) - I think it's me too. It's cool though that it opens up all the possibilities and you really have to think through it because I feel like, at least where I grew up, the default was just you went to public school, right? And so the needs of each individual child was never really considered. That's just what you did. Your kid just went to school, you know? So now you're in this unique position where you have to kind of troubleshoot and figure out what's best for your kid and you're gonna be changing that up a lot as you're moving around. And so I think that's actually really cool. That'll be really cool for your kids.

**Speaker 3** (00:16:29) - Yeah, I think so too. Especially like, uh, looking individually, um, what their interests are and Yeah. At what times they're best in learning and because I remember back in Germany, I had a schedule in fifth grade or something, so the where the first, um, school lesson began at seven o'clock, 10:00 AM in the morning and we lived in the countryside, so I, I had to ride the bus for one hour, so I had to leave the house at six o'clock to get the first lesson at seven o'clock, 10 minutes. So I think this isn't healthy, this isn't useful or, uh, so I hope we can do some stuff better than to conventional school <laugh>.

**Speaker 2** (00:17:13) - Yeah. Yeah. It was the same way for me growing up. And oftentimes I like to sleep in, so then I'm mean running out the door and my mom would be handing me, you know, a pop to art or something, eat something before you go to school. And so it definitely wasn't a healthy weight.

**Speaker 3** (00:17:26) - <laugh>.

**Speaker 1** (00:17:26) - What are some of the biggest challenges that you have faced as a traveling mom? Traveling and working mom.

**Speaker 3** (00:17:33) - Yes. Right. So the worst thing ever and will ever be is, uh, the distance to the grandparents. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, yeah. It always breaks my heart to see how much both sides miss each other. And I am feeling so helpless too because I cannot really change this and I feel very selfish and egoistic sometimes because I've, yeah. In fact it's my decision and it's my fault that this is the situation at the moment. But on the other hand, yeah, we try to FaceTime as much as possible. Our parents are visiting us in Thailand, Woohoo,

**Speaker 1** (00:18:11) - <laugh>. Oh,

**Speaker 3** (00:18:12) - That's awesome. So yeah, it's so amazing. We are very much looking forward to it and yeah. But this breaks my heart and it will never change and that's very hard for all sides.

**Speaker 2** (00:18:23) - Yeah, I can definitely see that. I think we're really blessed with technology, right. That allows us to have that connection still, but it'll never replace that interpersonal connection. So I can see how that would be, that would be a challenge. I'm really glad that you were able to convince your parents to come visit you though.

**Speaker 3** (00:18:41) - How about yours? Are they open to go to Southeast Asia?

**Speaker 1** (00:18:46) - Actually, so last, uh, two years ago we were in Guatemala for a few months mm-hmm. <affirmative> and we got both of our parents to come. Yeah. Wow. And visit us for a little bit

**Speaker 2** (00:18:56) - And if it was a hundred percent up to my mom, I'm pretty sure she would pack a bag and just be right along with us all. Anywhere we go, <laugh>, I should be down. Right. But she, my, my brother just barely graduated high school not that long ago and she actually just started a business, um, back in Washington state. So she's tied down a little bit more like location wise.

**Speaker 1** (00:19:15) - Well then your dad's a doctor so he is very tied down. Oh wow. Doing doctor stuff. <laugh> doctoring,

**Speaker 3** (00:19:22) - Saving lives.

**Speaker 1** (00:19:23) - Yeah, yeah.

**Speaker 2** (00:19:24) - Whatever they do stuff. <laugh>.

**Speaker 1** (00:19:26) - Yeah. And um, my dad is a big traveler. He loves it. Um, but also has a full-time job right now. And then my mom has so much anxiety around traveling, it's like pulling teeth to get her anywhere outside of California. Um, but we did get her to go to Guatemala and I think there's a good chance that we can get her to Southeast Asia. Probably not this year, but you know, if we come back I think there's a good chance we can convince her to come.

**Speaker 2** (00:19:50) - It's kinda wear it down a little bit.

**Speaker 3** (00:19:52) - Yes. Fingers crossed. Mm-hmm.

**Speaker 2** (00:19:54) - <affirmative>. Yeah, <laugh>. Okay. So tell me a little bit about how you handle the logistics of traveling with children. So obviously you have to look for certain things in accommodation. You talked about like staying in a place longer, which I've heard is the general advice for kids. Like everything just takes a little bit longer while you're traveling. But can you walk me through some of those logistics that you go through in your travel planning?

**Speaker 3** (00:20:16) - Yes, of course. So, uh, we are happy to pay more for the convenient way <laugh>. So if you're traveling as an, uh, yeah. Alone or as a couple, you can make the really cool overnight, uh, train journey <laugh>. But the two, uh, toddlers, it's more like the nonstop flight <laugh>.

**Speaker 2** (00:20:35) - Yeah. <laugh>

**Speaker 3** (00:20:36) - Less adventurous way to travel and more convenient way. But that's okay. I mean this will change in five or 10 years than I will be able to do cooler stuff too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Yeah. But we, yeah. Pick our next destination. So, um, first we find the school or the daycare at the new place and uh, then we start to find housing not too far away from the daycare. Uh, so in this order we have to approach the house moving <laugh> and yes. So the accommodation has to be safe and easily reachable by scooter and that's it. So healthcare wise, for example, uh, we, we found out that um, most places we live have an hospital within an hour around. So, um, yeah, we are not picked too picky to uh, find the place close to a doctor, close to hospital. Everywhere we go there are parent children, they're still alive. So, uh, we are very chilled with this topic.

**Speaker 2** (00:21:41) - And most of the places you've been have had, like, have there ever ever been places where you were like, we're gonna avoid the hospital here at all costs or have most of the places you've been been like you would feel confident bringing to your kid to the hospital?

**Speaker 3** (00:21:55) - Yeah, definitely. Uh, I felt confident to put them in to the very small, uh, community hospital in KO Tower in Thailand. Uh, which obviously wasn't the, uh, highest standard but still okay for our little kids fever. Um, yes. And we have a pretty decent healthcare insurance, uh, from Germany that allows us to like fly them out to a big city in, in an emergency. So yeah, I think that's awesome.

**Speaker 1** (00:22:26) - That's good. Yeah.

**Speaker 2** (00:22:28) - Yeah. I wish the US had good insurance. <laugh>, we actually just released an episode or we're gonna release an episode just before this about insurance for digital nomads and um, when you're coming from the us, insurance is such a sticky thing, it's crazy

**Speaker 3** (00:22:43) - <laugh>. So you have to have a residence in the US I assume?

**Speaker 2** (00:22:47) - Yeah, but it only, a lot of the times it only covers the state that your resident, your residency is in. So like we ne we never had an address in the States cuz we were moving around so much. So we tried to set up medical insurance in Utah, but then we were never in Utah and so then, I don't know, it was crazy.

**Speaker 1** (00:23:07) - Yeah. Going through the public marketplace was definitely had those challenges. So for us and others who are moving around a lot, global health insurance is definitely the way to go.

**Speaker 3** (00:23:17) - Okay. Okay.

**Speaker 2** (00:23:19) - Okay. So what are, what are some of your favorite travel experiences with your children?

**Speaker 3** (00:23:24) - So just the fact that we are traveling with kids is so nice because everywhere we go to, um, people are trying to get in touch with the kids and also with us. So that, that's super sweet. Um, because even though, um, maybe the local peoples are, um, so it doesn't matter if they are rich or poor or anything else, um, we have mostly in common that they're parents too. So that gives like, uh, a very nice base of communication and I really enjoy just going to Southeast Asian place and um, yeah. Coming in contact with the local people much easier than if we would be alone.

**Speaker 2** (00:24:08) - Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. I

**Speaker 3** (00:24:10) - Love that. I don't know if you know what, if you realized it in Southeast Asia, but it's totally norm if you go into a restaurant that they have, the staff would take your children and play with them while you are eating. Really? So it's such a huge difference than in Europe.

**Speaker 2** (00:24:27) - It's like having a babysitter everywhere

**Speaker 1** (00:24:29) - You go. Yeah. Daycare built into your dining experience. Wow.

**Speaker 3** (00:24:33) - Exactly. It's so convenient, so nice. So you can look forward situation when you have kids too.

**Speaker 2** (00:24:42) - <laugh>. Yeah. Built in date night. I like it.

**Speaker 1** (00:24:46) - So for all of the other traveling parents that are out there, what is your biggest piece of advice that you would like them to know or that you would share to help them travel with their kids or travel at

**Speaker 2** (00:24:58) - All? Or people who are considering to travel with their kids. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,

**Speaker 1** (00:25:01) - What advice would you give to them?

**Speaker 3** (00:25:03) - <laugh>. Just do it. That's my biggest advice. Um, because there's never gonna be the right and perfect moment. Um, yeah. There's never gonna be the perfect preparation, uh, or perfect mood to just go. So just do it. And always keep in mind other countries, um, parents are managing to raise children too, and yeah, why shouldn't you be able to do the same? We just need to be, to adapt a bit and to be a bit more flexible and then it'll be, it will have the time of your life. So go for it.

**Speaker 1** (00:25:38) - <laugh>. Awesome. I love it. You are, you are an awesome example that it's definitely possible to travel with kids and to have a great time doing it. So if anyone is listening and is wondering if it's possible, just look at Lulu, she's doing it and she's killing it. So

**Speaker 2** (00:25:53) - Yeah. Along the same lines, why don't you go ahead and tell everyone where they can find you to connect with you and follow your journey.

**Speaker 3** (00:26:00) - Yes, sure. So can follow me at mom block on Instagram for my more travel inspiration or, uh, take a look at my blog no mom.com and they will find, uh, many tricks and hacks for traveling release.

**Speaker 2** (00:26:17) - Yeah, I love it. I love your blog. I don't even have kids and I just love reading the articles. I think it's so interesting.

**Speaker 3** (00:26:23) - Cool. Thank you so much. I love yours too.

**Speaker 2** (00:26:27) - <laugh>. Thank you. And you offer copywriting services, is that correct?

**Speaker 3** (00:26:31) - Yes. Right. So mostly for NGOs in Germany, which is, which has a good cause

**Speaker 2** (00:26:36) - Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah, I love that. So if anyone listening happens to know an NGO in Germany that needs copywriting, now you know where to go. And for any of your travel tips, especially with children, definitely go check out No Med mom blog. No med mom, m u m right? No med mom blog on Instagram and on her website as well.

**Speaker 3** (00:26:58) - Exactly. Thank you so much for having me.

**Speaker 2** (00:27:01) - Of course. It was so good to chat with you. Yes.

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