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Get access to our entire back catalogueEver mixed up Celsius and Fahrenheit on a weather app? We've all been there, and it sparked a hilarious start to our latest episode. We chat about our winter prep, including those generators still in their original boxes, before pivoting to a more serious discussion on the Biden administration and the Equal Rights Amendment. Through laughter and critique, we explore how activism sometimes trumps factual accuracy in today's society and what that means for our moral compass.
Next, we take a detour into the digital world, pondering the rise of "Red Note," a new Chinese social media sensation among American conservatives. It’s like TikTok, but with a twist—less woke and more popular among the young folks. We discuss the implications of a Chinese-owned app gaining traction in the U.S. and its potential impact on cultural and political landscapes. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift's strategic moves in the Chinese music market serve as a backdrop for a broader conversation on how curated online spaces shape freedoms and perceptions.
Finally, we geek out over firearms and optics technology showcased at the SHOT Show, touching on everything from innovative firearms design to the legal implications of fixed magazines. Personal stories weave through our reflections on inflation, product quality, and cultural shifts over the decades. We wrap up with a deep dive into international relations, political tensions in Korea, and the evolving landscape of drone regulations. Whether you're here for the laughs, the insights, or the thought-provoking discussions, this episode promises a rollercoaster ride through today's hottest topics.
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Discussion on Weather and Political Errors
Speaker 1Well, how are you, Ben? How are you today? I'm doing well, Gene Doing well. That's good, Yourself getting ready for this cold weather that's about to nail us.
Speaker 2Dude, I got a little worried today. I had my Android tablet next to me and I apparently hadn't authorized it to check weather, so I had to turn that on and then it popped up and it says 10 degrees. I'm like, fuck, that's a hell of a cold spell, man. I thought that was later in the week, we're gonna get that or something, and took me about two minutes to realize it was on celsius yeah I'm like, okay, okay, that's better.
Speaker 2So 10 is 50 for all you European folks, or I guess that's for all us American folks, 10 is 50. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was 10 Fahrenheit, which would be like 15 degrees Celsius below zero.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, well, we're supposed to. I sent you the screenshot of the the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good, cold forecast. It's, it's gonna get cold. We're supposed to get down in. Uh, the teens here in costation. We've got a 70 chance of snow next week our forecast here is the coldest.
Speaker 2It's supposed to get us on tuesday down to 21 at night and 35 during the day. Okay. Otherwise, the rest of the days are warmer.
Speaker 1Well, we'll have to just see where it lands but regardless, it's going to be cold.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is where I kind of wish I was closer to the Gulf Coast.
Speaker 1Well, they're more likely to get an ice storm because of the moisture.
Speaker 2I don't think they're going to get to freezing, though yeah, they will.
Speaker 1Dude, I promise you, I used to live down there and all I can tell you is when stuff Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2Yes, when you think of coast, you think of Galveston. When I say coast, I think of Brownsville.
Speaker 1Well, brownsville is totally different. Corpus.
Speaker 2Okay, sorry, that's the coast I've mostly been going to lately yeah.
Speaker 1All right, mr SpaceX, fair enough, fair enough, yeah, okay, Well, just have your snakes insulated, gene.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, I do um portable heaters for them, yeah, and they mostly tend to sleep anyway, so uh like portable heaters that are powered by well, the electricity, obviously, but I also have a couple of uh, which mccullough's as well, a couple of generators just in case, yeah watch both of them. That work that'd be.
Speaker 1That'd be great we'll test them beforehand ah, I probably should.
Speaker 2Yeah, I I've got. Both of them are brand new in the packaging, so my theory you haven't even gotten them out of the packages. No, no, my theory has always been that the worst thing I can do is test one and then not touch it for three years, and then I won't be able to start it after that because it'll be all gummed up. So my thought is just don't fuck with them, leave them in packaging and then, if I need to, then I can take them out of the packaging.
Speaker 1Well, first of all, batteries do die. If you had battery starts. And then the other thing to think about is you have the bi-fuel generators right. Yeah, so run them off. Propane, propane's real clean. There's nothing in the tank, nothing to get them up. Yeah, so, that is really good point. Which propane man? That's just getting retarded expensive. Now. What's the latest, I don't know?
Speaker 2three dollars and something a gallon yeah, oh yeah, you were saying and so it's about 15 bucks for a recharge?
Speaker 1yeah, did you. Did you see the uh, beyond talking weather and things, that audience? Outside of Texas is like this is normal weather for winter people. Did you see? The Biden administration ratified the Equal Rights.
Speaker 2Amendment. I did yes.
Speaker 1Joe.
Speaker 2Biden is now famous.
Speaker 1Who is dumb enough to have put out this statement?
Speaker 2I mean, you got a bunch of AOCs working there, so I don't know what you expect.
Speaker 1More than that, Like that is just. Is it not shocking to you?
Speaker 2Not really, honestly. I mean, they don't know law. Why would they at all think about the fact that, since the states didn't actually ratify it, that they couldn't but I mean, come on, you're working in the government and you don't know basic civics.
Speaker 1I mean this is just what's wrong with our society remember it's more important to be an activist than to be a civicist yeah, and you know, or if you take aoc's quotes exactly, you know we may have been factually incorrect, but we were morally right, exactly.
Speaker 2Wait what? But of course morals are fascist because they come from the Bible. So clearly the term moral is ambivalent.
Exploring a Conservative Social Media App
Speaker 1I don't know, man, that that just was shocking to me, that that made a new, that that multiple people had to see that and be like okay, let's put that out.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, yeah. Well, I think you're right about multiple people, but I don't think that there's an expectation that these multiple people actually would know any difference from each other. Can we talk about a conservative social media app? Oh God?
Speaker 1Yeah, your little Redbook experience. Aka, known as Red Note in the United States to make sure people don't understand what it actually means yeah, so gene has decided to uh embrace the chinese overlords, apparently uh-huh, exactly, yes, uh.
Speaker 2So everyone's got it installed now and running it. So I thought, well, I gotta check this out and I've got some spare devices I can chuck it on without worrying about my main device. And uh, let me tell you I why. I mean, you already know, because I sent you some screenshots. It is a very interesting experience. First of all, if you're not opposed to Asian chicks, the babes be hot. The average demographic of this app is 70% under 30 and 70% female.
Speaker 1Sure. And so you've got and this is following the loose Thailandailand definition of female, I'm sure no, that's illegal in china.
Speaker 2You're confusing countries here. China does not have any trans.
Speaker 1Yeah no they don't, they're pretending to be women, then because there's no way that demographic holds pretending to be women?
Speaker 2then because there's no way that demographic holds. Oh, it's absolutely. Because, uh, men aren't allowed to use the app in china. So because the government can do things like that. But why? Who gives a shit? Who cares you're? Asking the wrong question, it's okay. It's a nice app with pretty Chinese girls who talk English, talk English. Not a honeypot at all. It is totally natural and authentic. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2And you can tell that because if you look at the Americans, that's a good chunk of people from Texas there, by the way. If you look at the americans that are posting their videos, yeah, they all have this slightly shocked, like they just survived a lightning strike. Look to them, because nobody expected this chinese app to have so much english in it, to have such pretty girls in it and to be so anti-woke. I think a lot of people were surprised. They they were like uh, hold on. And incidentally, there's already been a number of uh woke liberals that have been kicked off of it, that are making the you know screenshot rounds on x for posting you know woke shit and you know I I can look, I I get uh the whole anti-woke thing cool, but still totalitarian government anti-woke thing Cool.
Speaker 2But still totalitarian government. Yeah, but you know, it's just like Germany in World War II. You got nothing against them. Uh-huh, you know same kind of ideal. Just because Hugo Boss made the uniforms for the Nazis doesn't mean it's a bad designer.
Speaker 2Just saying Okay, just because for the nazis doesn't mean it's a bad designer. Just saying, okay, just because vw was hitler's brand of car maker. No, literally called volkswagen. Yeah, the people's car uh-huh doesn't mean that you know they're bad or evil or anything. So I think you have to. You have to look through this, not in the conspiracy theory oh my god, the chinese are trying to take over, like, but I I see this more as nixon going to china, because it really is americans butting in on a chinese app how is it not the chinese trying to take over?
Speaker 2just hold on, we'll get to that. But now you've got, I think, china being more concerned about bad ideas coming from the us and I don't mean about tiananmen square or taiwan, I mean about that there's more than two genders and polluting their app. So I think that the days of Americans having free reign are going to be limited before the Chinese consider this an invasion. Right now it's all cute and funny. It's like ha-ha look at those Stupid American government tries to ban a chinese-owned tiktok and and all these americans just flood on and try and subvert their own government. I think probably a few weeks down the road it'll be more like uh, china has decided to ban all english language on their uh, on their uh red note app because of negative western influences, or do you?
Speaker 1think it'll just die out when tiktok comes back, or you know I don't know what is the, what is the draw for people to go to this app. I just don't understand. I think like for me I would not even install this on a old but you're not on tiktok anyway.
Speaker 2No, I'm not stupid yeah, I think the draw is mainly people that are on tiktok and enjoy creating those videos, because yeah, short form, little randomized crap yeah, yeah, uh, and look, I watch tons of them and you do as well, because I forward them to you, because we watched the same exact damn videos on x. Yeah, and they're. They have literally a tiktok thing at the end of the video. They were made for tiktok, they just happened to be on x yeah.
Speaker 2So we've seen plenty of them videos. But I think to a lot of people that enjoy TikTok that are apolitical, like they probably are leading liberal, but they're mostly they likely didn't vote this last election Like they're apolitical, they're more concerned with gossip and drama than they are with politics.
Speaker 1Let me ask you something than they are with politics. Let me ask you something when you're on tiktok or? Hell, even x or any of it, do you just scroll through. So if you start playing a video, do you scroll through the videos you scroll through the videos.
Speaker 2What do?
Speaker 1you mean like you have the option on your phone, if you're playing a video to just swipe up to the next video. Swipe back to the next and so just keep going in videos.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Do you do that?
Speaker 2I try not to. Sometimes I'll watch a video and it'll start playing the next one automatically, which is kind of annoying actually. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2And it may take me three or four videos before I realize I need to snap out of that mode. I don't do it on purpose, I don. I don't do it on purpose. I don't do it on youtube on purpose either. Um, occasionally you'll accidentally do it, but here's the thing that's funny. You know on x how, if you do that, if you watch a video, and then you go up and then or down or whichever direction, and then you come back to re-watch the same video and you go.
Speaker 1Try to go to the next video and it's a randomly different one no, but it's.
Social Media, Taylor Swift, and Politics
Speaker 2It's like it always starts from scratch. No matter where you go, it starts from scratch. Yeah, if you accidentally push the button to stop the video, you go back to it. It starts from fresh. You believe they actually solved this problem in the chinese app, that any video that you've started watching, if you come back to it, it just picks up where you left off no, no, you see the reason why they solved.
Speaker 1That is because the chinese spy that is, uh, ordered to watch you while you're on the app. When he notices that you go to something else, he hits pause for you.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly hey, I prefer that and I'm still waiting, by the way, for our podcast transcripts from the nsa. I put that order in and they still haven't shown up. Yeah, so, yeah, it's. Uh, I say, if you take the politics out of it, I would prefer that app experience to most american social media. There are very few ads and and 90 of the ads are for taylor swift, so that is one downside no, I mean darren should be in heaven I.
Speaker 2I told darren I'm like dude. You gotta start using this app, because they're literally your demographic they're your people, darren. They're your people so taylor swift is advertising heavily in the chinese market because she knows that just getting a small slice of the chinese pop music market is going to be a much bigger financial reward than the entirety of the us market potentially.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, I mean, they gotta have money well, and here's the thing, remember, songs aren't really sold the way they used to be. People don't have to think about spending 15, 16 bucks on a CD. Everything is sold by the individual song now, and from listening to Darren, it sure sounds like Taylor Swift basically puts out a vinyl album for every fucking song and then charges 12 bucks for those so he likes to spend the money.
Speaker 1You know the people he buys multiple copies.
Speaker 2Huh, he buys multiple copies if he doesn't have, like a, a body pillow with Taylor Swift, I'll be shocked well I mean, he is married, so he always there is me. And that means what exactly? Um, because you keep the body pillow in the middle. You know that's how that works. But um, no, because he always talks about how tall she is. And I was like, well, why does that matter to you, unless you're, unless you have a life-size body pillow?
Speaker 1you just are in a troll Darren sort of mood, aren't you, since he?
Speaker 3didn't skip the last damn show when Darren skips the podcast, he gets the pain that's right and I've told them plenty of times.
Speaker 2If you don't want to do a show or whatever medical or you got a doctor's appointment, just let me know ahead of time. We'll find a replacement. Maybe I'll get Ben to come in and do it and we'll just do the damn show. He never gets around that. He's like it's always last minute, it's always like 10 minutes before the show. Oh, by the way, we're not doing a show today. I just posted up to it. Okay, so that's fine, that's fine. I don't.
Speaker 2You know, I don't care gave me an extra hour of video game play. I guess two hours, but um, yeah, so I I think the interesting insights, uh, of being on that app are that it is surprisingly or maybe not surprisingly much less woke. There's nobody jewelry. There's no like tons and tons of nose rings and eyebrow rings and shit. There's almost none at all. There's no blue hair, pink hair, green hair, weird hair colors. It's just cute asian chicks talking about learning english, teaching english or doing something with food. Like you look at them and it's like, yep, I'd marry that one, I'd marry that one and um, I, I get that it's a subsection of china, because the, the chinese women that are actually working to make ends meet probably aren't on that platform.
Speaker 2These are all chinese not and essentially models yeah, yeah, yeah exactly this is government sanctioned shit imagine, that's what you have to realize about anything in China when your population is so big in your country that you can have nothing but models on your social network?
Speaker 1that's pretty cool. I mean, that's essentially what we do here.
Speaker 2Except our models are fucking fat and ugly compared to theirs.
Speaker 1Okay, Anyway the point is sure, if you want to live in such a draconian, crappy world, that I'm just talking about using the damn app right, but that's how you build that world here how do you figure?
Speaker 2yeah, please tell me, how do we build a world without wokeness, with no weird colored hair and no facial jewelry, and where every woman on social media is a model. How do we build that? Please, ben, tell me.
Speaker 1Okay, so you're one of the ones that would have thought authoritarian Germany was good. Got it.
Speaker 2No, you're not saying that usually. No, how do we do that? Oh and, by the way, nothing wrong with hot blonde german girls either right.
Speaker 1But my point is you know, as long as things are going better, and I more or less agree with it, it's okay. Yeah, who needs rights? My rights don't matter, because I agree with the state.
Speaker 2But you got less rights today than you did when you were born. Sadly yes, in this country.
Speaker 1Agreed.
Speaker 2So I don't know, I just think it's very convenient, but dissent is alive.
Speaker 1here is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2It's very convenient to use big bad boogeymen to always externalize problems, and both parties in the United States have been doing that forever, very long time. Forever Blame the British Blame, the French Blame, the South Blame, the Spanish Blame, the Mexican.
Speaker 1Blame the guns.
Speaker 2Wait what Well yeah, yeah, and then a whole century of blame, russia.
Speaker 1So yeah, Well, I mean, they're not wrong on that one.
Speaker 2Well, you know, after they stole Alaska illegally.
Speaker 1Well, we're about to do that to Greenland and a couple other places, it looks like Totally legally though.
Speaker 2Legitimately legally to do that to, uh, greenland and a couple other places it looks like. So you know, legally, though legitimately legally, I had the conversation with my one of my liberal friends and uh what did they have to say? Well, he was. He was saying about how even peter zahan is getting worried now because zahan's very big in that Was I, this liberal friend you had the conversation with. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about, like actual California liberal millionaire type. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1And.
Speaker 2Zayhan is very big with those folks. They love Zayhan.
Speaker 1Yeah, Because you know he just makes sense, he does to a large part, he sure does Until you go a little deeper, and does to a large part until you go a little deeper until you realize that he's reading a script while he's on a camping trip and he and he doesn't even still makes total sense. You just gotta shift your perspective on what sense is being made yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2Well, you made me watch a gay guy packing. I did, I got you to watch a gay guy packing.
Speaker 1You totally got me to watch a gay guy packing. I did. I got you to watch a gay guy packing.
Speaker 2You totally got me to watch a gay guy packing. I can't believe you did that. And his luggage, uh, is packed very nicely he should pack a lot in there I just kept on putting more and more in there.
Speaker 1I don't know where it all fit oh, the sad thing is, this is pretty much how the conversation we we really are 12, so I'm 14 dudes?
Speaker 2yeah, exactly, yeah, it was. It was pretty funny. So peter zahan, I assume everybody knows who he is, but he is a, uh, he's a apolitical well, I wouldn't call him apolitical, but he does. He definitely does not claim to be, or nor really push himself off as a liberal, definitely not conservative claims to be somewhat apolitical, but in his analysis.
Speaker 2He claims to be apolitical, but I wouldn't say that he is I guess, that's the differentiation but he's basically been a political or not a political, a, I guess what would you call it globalist sh a globalist consultant in a think tank for many, many years here in Austin and even though he doesn't live in Austin, the think tank's in Austin and he lately and by lately I mean like as of the last year and a half he seems to specialize in hiking on mountains. Half he seems to specialize in hiking on mountains because every single one of his videos where he talks about some policy or some political shift or the population bomb in china or something like that, it's always in the middle of a hike which, by the way, his population bomb is the opposite of the population bomb most people would think of, because he's talking about demographic collapse, not Collapse, fair enough.
Speaker 2Fair enough, I probably should have said collapse, not a bomb. But it's interesting because you would typically think of someone wanting to discuss a big, serious topic like that would be doing it at their desk with a bunch of books in the background. You know the typical kind of I'm know about this stuff presentation, and zayhan never, ever does that. Everything is filmed with his iphone. There's no cameras, there's no you know it.
Speaker 2Everything just looks like it's impromptu and the audio quality sometimes yeah, yeah, a lot of times there's wind like he forgot to bring a dead cat or something and so it's um. It has that feel, but the volume is fairly significant and I don't understand. I mean, maybe this is possible, you tell me, but it feels like his entire life right now is traveling all over the world, because right now I think he was in New Zealand or someplace, yep, and speaking and hiking. That's all he does. He just flies all over the world and hikes up mountains. While he does that, he puts out videos for the globalists.
Speaker 1Well, I think he also goes and gives speeches.
Speaker 2I think that's his main source of income is going, so you think he goes somewhere. He takes an extra couple days to go hiking afterwards. Yep, I do. Okay, got it Well. Either way, it's an interesting style. Well, either way, it's an interesting style. I probably disagree with him on a lot of the fundamentals, but he also makes good points quite often.
Speaker 1Well, you know one of the things that I thought was pretty interesting here since the Trump election has occurred. What's that? He has started putting his stuff behind a patreon paywall oh has he really, and we're getting the delayed videos, videos on youtube come out a week later, after he published them on patreon interesting.
Speaker 2Okay, well, that's a, that's a viable strategy, I guess I guess.
Speaker 1But what I think is really weird about that is, you know, the timing seems odd. So all right, peter. What funding is drying up, now that you know trump is going into office?
Speaker 2well, I don't know, maybe, maybe it's related, but it doesn't have to be. I mean, I do early releases of videos to people that support me as well, so all, all, two of them morning two hey, I didn't get my video early the other day uh, which video. And and since when do you support me? You're more of a drain than anything oh you need to spend money on guns uh, hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1By the way, what did you think of the vogue when? I sent that to you.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, no it. You know, I think that, um, based on the video that I watched, which you sent me a different video, I think it's a pretty cool design, um, you know, I mean it's any gun that that it's, it's, if a ak and a uh this is a palmetto state gun, by the way that they're working on.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's if a ak and an ar had a live child it's more, I think, an ak than they are, but yeah the. The upper is ak, the lower is very ar yeah, but it doesn't. Doesn't have a buffer tube correct because the ak operating system doesn't require it.
Speaker 2But the fire control magazine release a lot of the ergonomics yeah, I guess the magazine control is ar that's probably my biggest complaint about the ak proper is I don't like the magazine release.
Speaker 1No one does or the trigger, or are the? Are the charging handle or?
Speaker 2uh. No, the charging candle's fine. Uh, although reciprocating charging handle is not great. You don't want like I I've got my.
Speaker 1My m1a, you know, has that and it's a product of the 1950s.
Speaker 2We've grown up since then let's move on the. The thing that's so funny is how easy it is mechanically to make something non-reciprocating. It just basically means disconnecting a pin and then lengthening one other pin.
Speaker 1And it's like Assuming it's not welded onto the bolt like it is on the AK.
Speaker 2Well, but if it's welded, you still have to cut it off and then you got two pins. Yeah, I'm just saying it's not a hard thing for the original factory to have done in the first place.
Speaker 1So I'm sure, if they changed the design of the weapon, it could be different, correct? Yeah, it's a super easy design change anyway, I just I I saw that and I thought this is something gene will buy it looks cool.
Speaker 2Here's the problem I'm running into now. You know how there's way too many ars out there, like everybody and their brother-in-law's making it. Yep. Well, lately we're getting to a point where there's like 15 companies making arak interesting shit yes, and and you can't.
Speaker 2I can't at least buy all of them, because, uh, there's when there was one or two available and I could go out and buy a galil, because it's like, oh, this is the best ak version out there right now, because it's actually not an ak but it functions like an AK. Now there's like 10 of those made by different companies, including some additional ones from the same damn companies, so I have to get the Carmel now, you know, which is also another AK, ar yeah, did you look at the Kel-Tec announcements?
Speaker 2yeah, I thought I sent you those, didn't I send you those?
Firearms Design and Regulations
Speaker 1we've been sending stuff back and forth and arguing about who sent who what. But okay, I'm pretty sure I sent it all. All right, but you saw the new pistol right uh, which one the the new five one yes, I saw that pistol tell people about it.
Speaker 1It's a crazy stupid thing it actually. First of all, let's just let's just talk about caltech for a second. Caltech makes some interesting stupid shit. Did you watch the brandon video? I did, and I think he does yeah, anyway, the the point is they also make some good points and some cool stuff. Yeah, um, they make some innovation that ends up in other guns and it's it's interesting to see where they go.
Speaker 2I'm not saying I'm a fan of they are very much an r&d company, and if something actually works well, somebody else will clone it, tweak it to be even better well.
Speaker 1So one of the interesting things is this rotary barrel right, no one's talking about that. Everybody's talking about the damn stripper clip.
Speaker 1Well, the rotary barrel design is pretty interesting because the barrel so right now we have tilt lock barrels on 99 of your striker fired pistols or tilt lock, yep, well, this is a rotary lock, so the barrel is actually twisting and turning as the action is happening. Right, but the reason why they went with the stripper clip fed um, instead of magazine fed, and they did this the way they did there is no removable magazine on this gun is to get around magazine bands. I, I get that, but it just Although I think the law would immediately just be applied. Well, that's an internal magazine. You've got to put a plug in it like you would a shotgun, right?
Speaker 2exactly. I think it's a quaint addressing of the limitation which is going to do nothing but amend the laws.
Speaker 1I don't even think it has to amend the laws, because I think if you read the laws the way, the magazine it's still a magazine, it's an internal, fixed magazine that you can't change. But you know, and unless the uh, unless the law literally says removable magazine or something, like that which I'm not know California law well enough to know.
Speaker 1But when I think of a shotgun or a gun that is tube-fed, of any kind, people have been putting plugs in them to limit magazine capacity to meet legal requirements for forever, and I see this as no different.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I, I, I would agree with you, although I have only seen that for shotguns and not for lever action rifles?
Speaker 1Well, cause there aren't really lever action rifles that are.
Speaker 2I have seen it where the biggest number of rounds in the lever action that's out there for like a 22 or something.
Speaker 1A huge amount. Are they, is it? Yeah, but you know, there are states that say you can only have three rounds in a gun when hunting yeah, which I think is so bullshit as someone who has shot a deer, shot another deer and a hog in just bam, bam bam and then had no ammo left in my bolt gun walked up and a yearling deer didn't want to leave and I could have plunked it with my .40 cal and chose not to, because I already had enough to skin.
Speaker 1Yeah, I agree, more more ammo, better well it just if.
Speaker 2For no other reason than the fact that here in texas at least, you got feral hogs, they run in packs of more than three guys hogs are, hogs are not.
Speaker 1That that's totally separate.
Speaker 2That is not a regulation I don't mean for hunting them, I mean like for self-defense from the damn thing while you're hunting.
Speaker 1Yeah, sure, but I mean, that's what a sidearm is for.
Speaker 2Okay, I guess I don't know, I'd rather use a rifle. Those suckers are not that small.
Speaker 1No, they're not. They get huge Anyway.
Speaker 2I've seen a video of a guy run out of ammo and kill multiple hogs and then another hog starts chasing him. Yeah.
Speaker 1I've seen guys get buffloaded over by them too. They're big animals, they're aggressive.
Speaker 2They're not the kind of animal that when they hear a loud noise runs away, they run towards it.
Speaker 1It depends the, the kind of animal that when they hear a loud noise, runs away, they run towards it. Uh, it depends. Uh, you know, like the the scenario I was actually just talking about. So I was sitting at this end of a pipeline on some property I've got in east texas and, um, the hog showed up, and usually when hogs show up, deer won't. So I'm like damn it and I'm making noise and trying to get them to go. They won't go.
Speaker 1They won't go, they won't go. And finally there's this 50-pound little hog there. So you know, not a big one, but not a small one, you know just enough.
Speaker 1And I'm like, oh well, okay, rack another one in. And then bam, drop a doe. And then the other doe turns there to look the other way like where did that come from? Yeah, bam, now my, my uh long guns out of ammo. And I'm like, okay. So I start walking over to the does and there's this yearling that just I got within 30 feet of that yearling and I had my 40 cal on my hip and I could have done it, but I had enough to clean.
Speaker 2So anyway, texas has a three round for deer rifles limit.
Speaker 1Uh no, I don't think texas has a three round for deer rifles limit. No, I don't think Texas has a magazine limit, it's just what my bolt action gun holds. But some states do. That particular one has a three round magazine.
Speaker 2That would be a good argument for having rifles, even if you have a, god damn it. What am I? I'm blanking out. Need the b12, the um, oh man, the you know, manual kind, the uh, lever action, lever action, bold action. All right, even for a bold action like having a, a removable magazine might be an advantage if there is a limit on the number of rounds in your magazine.
Speaker 1Sure, and like I have different guns with different capabilities the 300 Remington Ultra Mag no one's ever really made a magazine that works well with it, so I've never bothered changing out the bottom metal with it, so I've never, bothered changing out the bottom metal but my 308 Bergara, which? Is a bolt action. Remington 700 platform has magazine magazine fed, no bottom metal yeah, which reminds me.
Speaker 2So shop show is on right now yeah, hell, I've got a savage 308.
Speaker 1That is magazine fed okay yes this particular gun was not got it got it.
Speaker 2Um, so there's there. Part of the reason we're talking about the new guns is because the the shot show release, or that's where usually where a lot of manufacturers release their new guns, and so we've been starting to watch some of the the previews coming out of there uh of different brands, and well, a couple of them well metal state released yeah or yeah, and if not released, at least shown at the show yeah, which, by the way, that digital LPVO mount by Magpul.
Speaker 1I'm very interested in this that does look interesting.
Speaker 2They say it's universal. I suspect there's a limited number of models it'll work with.
Speaker 1It's about the diameter of your LPVO.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, but also the height of it, and I think there's some other.
Speaker 1no that that won't matter if you look at how the mount works, because it's a mount. It's a mount for the lpvo, that won't matter, okay, well I.
Speaker 2I probably looks cool as someone who has.
Speaker 1LPVOs, it won't matter.
Speaker 2Okay. There's no high mount for LPVOs.
Speaker 1Sure, but the device you're buying is the mount.
Speaker 2It's mounting. Okay, so it's a ring mount, Okay okay, okay.
Speaker 1You really didn't read or look at anything. I sent you no.
Speaker 2I watched the video. I literally watched anything I sent you. So the magpul is putting out this, this literally.
Speaker 1Watch the video okay, so magpul is putting out this device that will go on the end of an lpvo to give you, um, to give you basically the ballistics calculations and a lot of the advantages of what the us military is going to. But they're saying they won't be at a stupid like 10 grand price. Right, it'll be interesting to see what price it comes in at Under two grand. Okay, so they say it has not been announced yet. So this is a mount for an LPVO, which is a low-powered, you know, optic, low-powered variable optic. I forget what it stands for, but the point is it'll go from 1x to like 8x. Is the optic this sits in front of it. This is your scope rings for that LPVO. It replaces the scope rings your LPVO mounts into this. So I don't know what you mean by mounts or height mounts and all that. This is the entire mount in the lp.
Speaker 2Yeah, it replaced.
Speaker 1If you're the last few um, this is not just a clip-on in front yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2I know it's not just clip-on front, but uh, yeah, it's been a while since I've bought an optic that mounts with rings.
Speaker 1Most optics I bought recently come with, um, uh, with actual mounts on them or a like non-removal well, you're doing like like the infrared one or just weird little reflex stuff and lots of stuff like any lpvo or scope style. I mean pretty much everything still uses rings.
Speaker 2So well, that's objectively not true, but but a lot of it does. I, I agree it's just been a while since I've bought one that just used rings, because they've I don't know. The last three of them that I bought have all come with um whatchamacallit mounts, you know the standard top ones.
Speaker 1I've clearly not had enough sleep? You clearly have not or enough b12 yeah but uh anyway.
Speaker 2Uh, it's gonna be interesting to see what comes out of shot show so one one thing that was interesting to me is it goes in the front instead of the back, because I would think for putting a screen that kind of overlays a holographic projection over the image, it would make more sense to put it in the back than the front.
Speaker 1I mean I don't know how, because how would that make more sense?
Speaker 2Well, because then you're just you're not limiting the light gathering capacity of the actual optic itself, You're just kind of putting a the light gathering capacity of the actual optic itself. You're just kind of putting a uh, essentially it's like putting a red dot behind an lpvo?
Speaker 1yeah, the red dot has. Then you've got focal plane issues, you've got lots of things, whereas just putting an image small image in front of the optic and letting the optic have its quality is but the optic is generally going to be focused on a very far away distance.
Speaker 2So it's not just a matter of putting a screen in front of the optic, because the optic is going to be sharp at, you know, 200 yards not.
Speaker 1My fear is that they're just putting a screen in front of the entire optic, so I think they are.
Speaker 2I think you're right. Right, my point is they have to have the screen that they're putting in front of. The optic has to be focused at the same distance as the optic is focused, right, yes, agreed, which is not at zero distance. It feels like it's overly complicated. I don't know, maybe it's not, but it kind of feels like that's the case to me.
Speaker 1Anyway, it'll be interesting to see money spend, but yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting to see. You know, you remember a year ago or maybe it was two years again now when that Chinese company was it Sun something? Yeah, the Red Dot company, when they came out with their their hybrid night vision holographic site? Yes, and it was like one of the top things that was making the rounds. I haven't heard a peep about that product oh, that's they sell.
Speaker 2They're about four grand they, though, or does anyone actually buy them? Uh, yes, really. You've seen reviews of like not youtubers, but just regular dudes putting up reviews I've seen the palmetto state reviews and things like that on their website.
Speaker 1All right, I know some people who have one. What do they think? I think it's overpriced for what it is. I think it's a Gen 1. I think it's neat, I think it's a hell of a capability, but I think that particular product is buggy.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, because that's kind of my point here, or my concern with anything that is introduced as a brand new category of product At SHOT Show. Not only is it version one, but it could even be not even one. Yeah, exactly it version one, but it could even be not even one. Yeah, exactly. Um, in fact, if you go to hollow sun right on their front page integrated rifle infrared system it's literally the first thing they advertise that's interesting.
Speaker 1Did you see that? Uh, palmetto state is also coming out with a bullpup lower for the jackal.
Speaker 2I did. I did which I love bullpups, so that makes sense, and I've got a jackal, so that may be something I end up doing.
Speaker 1Well, and they're talking about you know. It'll be interesting to see if they actually make that for the 308 version or not as well.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's true, although you kind of already have a good 308 version, or not as well? Yeah, that's true, although you kind of already have a good 308 bullpup.
Speaker 1So yeah, I'm aware, yes, and.
Speaker 2You want another one? Okay, all right, got it.
Speaker 1I mean who doesn't, who doesn't?
Speaker 2Well, I don't know, man, I there's. There is a point of diminishing returns. It never goes to zero for a return, but it does start diminishing when you have a lot of overlap, unless you're purely a collector. Some guys just like to collect, not really use. But I don't know, I just uh, I just want to have things. But the price point on high resolution thermal go down to a reasonable level, all right that's all I want.
Speaker 1Are the hearing safe? Uh, protection acts or whatever it is? That would be great act, that'd be great, absolutely. The suppressor cost goes to nothing.
Speaker 2That'd be fantastic if we can take out suppressors from the completely illegal nfa, then I think you're absolutely right. The cost of suppressors is going to drop from a thousand bucks down to like 350 bucks yeah, by the way, do you know why short barreled rifles and shotguns were NFA items? Shotguns by chicago mob and there was so much um. I guess maybe annoyance isn't the right word, but there's a lot of pressure from chicago to not just have full auto but to also have, uh, short shotguns on there. I don't think.
Speaker 1I think rifles were added, incidentally not because they were actually intended to be yeah, it was actually about concealability and, yeah, what you need to understand is that pistols were originally on that list too, but they couldn't get it politically exactly so since they couldn't get it politically through for pistols, why did they leave the other on there, except as a power grab?
Speaker 2well, and and when they removed the pistols, the, the senators that were pushing for that removal, for that amendment, weren't smart enough to say or anything else like they just limited to pistols where it really should have been anything that is pistol size you know, here's the thing I think the nfa has a chance of getting repealed a little bit.
Speaker 1Um, but here's the thing I don't think anyone would give a shit really about the nfa if, if all it was was a machine gun man.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think that's the hardest part to repeal is letting the general non-gun shooting public actually agree to the idea that people walking around with full automatic guns is a good idea.
Speaker 1But you know what I don't care about having a full automatic. Yeah, from a practical standpoint to shoot, but it's expensive.
Speaker 2It's expensive as fuck and then and that's the thing is, this is why it shouldn't be illegal is because the biggest deterrent already is the cost well, I mean the cost if you got rid of the manufacturing ban would come down too.
Speaker 2But I mean the cost of the ammo right, yeah yeah, because, uh, yeah, I still remember, like when I first started going to the local range. Um, it was only a like a couple years after the the ban of the uh, was it the 85, I think 86, 86 ban, yeah, so it was probably around 88 when I was going to the local range and there was a bunch of guys bringing in their full auto ars, you know, m16s basically yep, when they, when they were still plentiful, and not yeah, they were they were cheap not as cheap as the russian guns or the yugoslavian guns more like, but they were cheap not as cheap as the Russian guns or the Yugoslavian guns more like, but they were certainly cheap enough that plenty of gun enthusiasts had M sixteens.
Speaker 2And the guys that were more into like cooler guns and collecting shit, uh, have the MP five. And so I've shot both of those, like starting with the eighties, and so I've shot both of those like starting with the 80s, and the problem is that all the ones that you can shoot today are from the 80s. So it's a for no good reason, it's an annoyance. Yeah, so I yeah, and I've always said, like the one gun, that I would actually go through the process and spend the money if I could get.
Speaker 1It would have been the p90 yeah, yeah, yeah, and I really haven't sure it was.
Speaker 2It's a great form factory. It was a unique gun design. Talk about, like palmetto state type, unique or not? Palmetto State, caltech type unique right. So it's something that nobody else had.
Speaker 3Horizontal magazine yeah, a magazine that rotates the round by 90 degrees.
Speaker 2It's just crazy. But it's been reliable. They have no issues and I know that I can get a PS-90 and then do a stamp for a short barrel on it to make it look like an actual P90. But I guess if somebody makes a binary trigger for it or some other kind of trigger accelerator, that would get closer.
Speaker 1But I mean you'll never have the progressive trigger. So one of the things about the P90 that's you'll never have the progressive trigger. So one of the things about the p90 that's interesting is you have a progressive trigger. So pull a little bit, bam, single shot a little further, three round burst.
Speaker 2Pull a little further full auto exactly the way I've got my video game set up on my keyboard. So, yeah, it's, it's a, it is a modern. It was the first modern guy in design when it came out in a long time. And it's yeah, obviously, at this point it's what? 20 years old, uh, older is it? Yeah, time's moving, man getting old. But uh, I've always thought that would be the one to have. I like the MP5, but I've shot enough MP5s to know that it just eh, yeah so, just so you know, the P90 went into service not design.
Speaker 1Service in 1990.
Inflation, Product Quality, and Cultural Changes
Speaker 2Yep, yep, yep Makes sense. That was a late 80s design 30.
Speaker 1So that gun is as old as I am my friend.
Speaker 2That's crazy, that is nuts. Hey, did you see that video of the catalog from 94 of JCPenney?
Speaker 1Yeah with the tech.
Speaker 2Tech, yeah, yeah yeah, uh, it's just like little. You know retro video somebody did, but I sent to a bunch of people my age and everybody's reminiscing it's like oh man, yeah, I remember that, that's what's interesting is the prices haven't changed a whole lot no, no, they haven't just the what you get for that price has changed but yeah, so we're talking computer, camcorder, vcr, tvs, stuff cd players, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2It's like, yeah you're, you're looking at a different product, but in the category of the older product, thousand dollar computer, 250 printer, I mean it's like a lot of that stuff's like, but you once you add in inflation from 94, so 30 years worth of inflation, it seems cheap it? It yeah, um because well, no, it doesn't seem cheap because it.
Speaker 1What we have today is cheap, because, if you that's, what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, that the price has stayed the same, yet the quality of the good has increased.
Speaker 2It's increased yeah, but with inflation the price has gone down relative to back then. So a $1,000 computer in 1994 is about a $3,800 computer today. Yes, but most people don't spend $3,800 on a computer. But the flip side of it is a $50,000 a year salary in 94 is a $200,000 salary today.
Speaker 1I don't know if it's quite that bad, but it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2It's more like a $100,000 salary in the 80s is like $200 something today. No, it's more than that. There's a bigger difference there. The amount of buying power that $100,000 had in 1990 was so much more than it is today is a lot more than double okay, so I'm not gonna argue yeah, it's it, it is.
Speaker 2So what I'm saying is have the quality of the products not gone up? I think we would have had a genuine French revolution in this country, because the serfs are making less and less every year and the products aren't really getting any cheaper. But what is happening is we're coming up with cheaper alternatives that look nice all the time. Cheaper alternatives that look nice all the time. You know, instead of using real ingredients, we're using fake ingredients for things. I mean, why is this shocking? It's not at all shocking. It's just a reminder, and watching things that are time capsules is always a good reminder of just how much things have changed. Yes, like, did you see any blue hair in that video?
Speaker 1No, Well, I mean, there could have been some emos in the background, but you know we didn't see them.
Speaker 2Blue hair dye didn't exist in 1980.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, it did Like I'm trying to remember what year it was but at one point in time I dyed my hair blue temporarily just to screw with my dad, and he just he thought it was hilarious. He thought, what the fuck did you do? You just screwed up, boy, I look like a clown, exactly you know. But I had a spiky haircut and I was like I'm gonna dye it blue just to mess with my dad well, look, you can always spray paint your hair whatever color you want it to exactly I'm just saying if you go to a salon you cannot say I'd like my hair blue in 1990.
Speaker 1That was not, this was in the late 90s when this happened, dude oh yeah, by late 90s.
Speaker 2yeah, yeah, I think the blue hair dye came about roughly maybe five years later after blue LEDs? Okay, because you know we didn't used to have blue LEDs, we only had red, green, yellow. Okay, you know this right.
Speaker 1I remember there was a difficulty in making the blue led yeah, it wasn't until a I guess I'm my okay right now is like I don't see the connection okay.
Speaker 2Well, the connection is that all this shit is relatively recent. The blue hair, the blue LEDs, it's all new stuff. Okay, the NFA it's all recent.
Speaker 1That is sadly not recent.
Speaker 2Well, it is for some of us. Yeah, that's an age thing. Those of us that remember Jimmy Carter and can evaluate him firsthand.
Speaker 1Which, hey, by the the way, good for abbott saying you know what, fuck, carter, we're gonna raise the flags, uh, for trump's inauguration absolutely yeah, what they can't?
Speaker 2they can't fucking do that. Oh, a guy died. So now the inauguration gets to have their flags, the half-mast, which everyone's wink, wink, nudge, nudge about how clearly everyone hates trump so much that they're not even raising the flags okay, we'll see, that's the impression that they're doing. So I I popped open x today and the first thing I see is a massive amount of people in the street and I'm like, oh, here we go, the protests are starting.
Speaker 3No, no go, the protests are starting, no no no, the protests aren't going to start because it's not going to be.
Speaker 1It's going to be too cold. Are you kidding me?
Political Tensions in Korea
Speaker 2you're right about that. So I click on the video and it's all in korean, I'm like, and then you realize you're not uh, well then you realize you're not on your right phone and you're, you're, you're in the little red app instead A little red phone.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, you know when? When you try and get me to a struggle session, Jean, that's when we're going to have a problem.
Speaker 2Well, how about a free lunch? Is that better?
Speaker 1Let's get you a free lunch.
Speaker 2We do need to meet up, and I've my I've got presents for you in the truck that have been there and you've got stuff for me exactly.
Speaker 1I gotta meet up.
Speaker 2Um, yeah, the and and we're actually gonna meet up for sure, because I need to make a rabbit run sometime if nothing else, unlike john and adam could just talk about meeting up and never actually meet up. Um no, I as far as the did. Have you heard about what's going on korea?
Speaker 2no, it's going on today in jail yeah, that that happened a while back well, he's still in jail, okay, and the supreme court is supposed to decide his future. And now there's massive protests in the streets basically telling the Supreme Court to let him go, because he is the first conservative president of Korea in quite a while conservative Korean president is somewhat of an oxymoron, but okay.
Speaker 2You know what I mean. On the spectrum, he still on the spectrum. He is on the more conservative side and he was the one, ironically, that was the prosecutor for the state that put two previous presidents in jail, and now he's going to jail. And well, now he's been in jail since December yeah, since 15th. So what the hell is going on in Korea?
Speaker 1Well, you know.
Speaker 2Are we just not following South Korea because there's so much other news in the world, like in Ukraine and Israel and stuff.
Speaker 1I think there's that. Israel and stuff, I think there's that. But so I think the you know what the transitive property is, right yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1So you know how Japan had occupied Korea. Oh yeah Right. Occupied korea oh yeah, all right. And you know how, after we dropped the bombs on japan, uh, with hiroshima and nagasaki, that uh, they went all anime and hentai and like sailor moon and just kind of off the deep end, I mean I don't know that they weren't that way before, but sure I mean, one of the meme themes is that dropping bombs caused this.
Speaker 1Right, it didn't, so the transitive property would be that. That's what's gone on with korea, because they've just lost their fucking minds well, it seems like there's some weird wacky political stuff going on there.
Speaker 2Because they're koreans have historically been fairly anti-japanese, for obvious reasons. Just slightly, yes, yeah, yeah, like the, uh, the, the forced, uh, sexual, uh what do they call them? Um, pleasure ladies or something. Basically, when japan invaded korea, they took everybody's wives and turned them into their personal sex slaves, and that's something that a country does not forget, at least quickly. So one of the things that this guy is being accused of is his normalization with relations with Japan and his animosity towards North Korea are showing the opposite of what a Korean leader should have, which is a goal for unification of Korea, obviously under Western values not north korean, but um, but certainly maintaining a certain level of resentment and hostility towards japan, where this dude was a lot more, I think, financially motivated to like like, let's, let's be friends and partners with japan. We both make a bunch of products that are bought in america. Uh, we have a lot more in common with them, and fuck north korea well, it's.
Speaker 1But it's not just that, though, because if, if we're talking that you know neo uh monroe doctrine, and we're talking about stuff changing and moving down the line, uh, you know, and I've said that you know, south china sea would potentially be involved here, and everything else, I mean, if you really follow that thought process, um, down the line, man uh, north korea or south korea and and Japan have to become tolerant of each other at the very least if they want to be in the U S sphere of influence.
Speaker 2Yeah, and, and I think mostly they don't really want to be in the U S sphere, they just don't like are you kidding me? No, they absolutely don't. They do. I know enough Koreans. One of my best friends from when I was a kid was a Korean dude. Spent a lot of time in South.
Speaker 1Korea. He was a. Korean dude. Now he's a Korean chick, got it.
Speaker 2Koreans, much like Indians and other cultures, see Americans as retarded. They know that Americans are idiots, they're stupid, but they have a good economy and they're worth taking advantage of.
Speaker 2They will not tell you this unless they think that you're not part of the american culture uh, it's, it's a it's like what you would refer to as a little secret um, but they all say this and they all do it, and this is why they are shocked when their kids don't get straight a's, because their kids in schools in america are competing with morons, so of course they ought to have perfect day scores yeah, well, that's not real though what did I say?
Speaker 2this is the, the mentality, right, yeah, and so what I'm saying is given a choice, neither japan nor korea wants to be a little brother to the american big brother, but, pragmatically speaking, both of them see that as a much better option than big china, because they both don't like big china or russia.
Speaker 1Anyone likes big china, uh? Just small china exactly, I mean the chinese have you ever seen an attractive fat chinese chick?
Speaker 2no, no, no, no but there's plenty of attractive not fat chinese chicks are there. I think there are more than the population of the united states, actually, and I've seen them all on this app.
Speaker 1Scroll, scroll, scroll but you know that they don't even allow nudity on that app gene. So what's the what's the point?
Speaker 2I mean, that's the thing. It's so based, man. It's. It's like, uh, very conservative women who are very attractive but believe in.
Speaker 1They just rename that up to like a dating app.
Speaker 2Oh my god, there would be. There would be, like every american male would be on there imagine a wife who loves to cook, who wants to be a homemaker, who wants to raise your kids have plenty of kids with you and sees the man as the king of the castle, as the person that she's always going to follow and take orders from.
Speaker 1I'm getting a call from a 512 number. That's an Austin number, that's. Austin yeah, yeah, nothing good can come of that, no, um, so you do realize that they would never allow that because china's population collapse and the han chinese are pretty racist, like well, yeah, but they would totally allow that they don't want no mixed breeds the national interest, because you know all those attractive chinese chicks would obviously be report.
Speaker 2Oh, I gotta mention this. This is actually hilarious. Yeah, so there's actually. I saw this on three separate videos, uh, where there was one chick. That was another hot Chinese chick talking about how she's been teaching English on here English. They have no accent.
Speaker 2They have no accent at all, they speak perfect English and how this new influx of Americans coming in it's going to be great, uh, it's going to be fun to talk. And then we make sure you, you know you follow me or you sign up to, you know whatever the equivalent of being a follower is, and then says with a big grin on her face and then tell us all your secrets and that there was three different videos like that, that I saw two chicks and one guy that, uh, kind of you know did the welcome. Hey, we're looking forward to seeing all these new influx of people joining community and we want to get to know you and you know we can answer your questions. And then we want to know what you're working on at work and how can we steal it.
Speaker 2Well, and I they're they're very self-aware of the impression that americans have of chinese.
Speaker 1Well, but do you think that impression is wrong?
Speaker 2no, like most stereotypes, there's always a grain of truth and everything right.
Speaker 1I mean, I think there's more than a grain of truth here, but okay.
Speaker 2Well, they have a much more lax attitude towards patents.
Speaker 1Let's put it that way Well, I'm not even just talking about that. I'm talking about the actual government and what the government says, says, does and the problems it causes well, like, what do you mean? What do you mean? What do I mean like totalitarian evil, communist government? Yeah, what about it?
Speaker 2I don't like it, okay, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. What I'm saying is because that app is controlled.
Speaker 1Those people are controlled. They are not like this. This is, this is the new potemkin village. Is my entire point here what you're seeing on that app? I think, I think that you're right, to a large extent right.
Speaker 2It's a curated group of people. However, I I would say that not everything that is a negative stereotype should be assigned to an evil dictatorship. There are plenty of things that are just culturally Chinese, and not respecting ownership of information is very Chinese. Pre-cultural revolution.
Speaker 1Sure, which is part of what's wrong with them.
Speaker 2Sure Right, but I'm just think that it's. It's refreshing to see people that are self-aware on this app is my point, are they, though?
Speaker 1That's my entire point.
Speaker 2Well, I think so, because, look, somebody is right. If you're, if you're going to take the view that these are just paid actors, essentially working for the party. Okay.
Discussion on Drone Regulations and Firearms
Speaker 2Let's say they are. Somebody wrote that for them to say that's the part that puts a smile on my face, like it'd be like a liberal saying, oh yeah, and we actually want to take all your guns away and then tax you to death or something. It'd be like they're saying that part out loud right, which they're usually hiding. My point is it's funny to see these videos three different videos that I watched that all mention some variant of that so what's your take on china's uh drone manufacturer removing the no-fly zone stuff?
Speaker 1I hadn't heard about it. Yeah, so DJI or whatever.
Speaker 2Biggest manufacturer of drones in the world.
Speaker 1Normally you've got geofencing stuff like that in place to stop you from flying into certain areas, and they've removed that Well good for them is it?
Speaker 2I think so I I got into drones before any of that shit wasn't on drones all right. I had five drones before I decided on. It's not worth it for me to fuck with this hobby. It's too expensive. Um, and my most expensive drone was $5,000 and they just added geofencing on my last drone and prior to that there was no regulations in the US, there was no licensing in the US and there was no geofencing on the drones themselves.
Speaker 2So I could fly this thing at an airport and nobody would be the wiser unless they saw it the way that they made it is that if you get within, literally, I couldn't fly within a half mile towards the airport from my house without the drone saying you can't be here, why because you're too close to the.
Speaker 2I'm too close to the airport. Yep, I mean, in my actual house you could still fly it, but if you go toward the airport less than a mile, that would be within the geofenced area. So I think that is a convenience that they were adding for the sake of the. I guess you could argue either the user or the uS government. Yeah, the pilot.
Speaker 1It's ultimately the pilot's responsibility.
Speaker 2It's like putting a lock on a gun or a thumbprint only to shoot. Do you want to own a gun that has a thumbprint reader?
Speaker 1Personally no.
Speaker 2I don't either, and I prefer a drone that doesn't have any geofencing.
Speaker 1But I do have a little holster by my bed that has a thumbprint reader.
Speaker 2That's separate yeah, yeah, and you're.
Speaker 1You're always welcome to not fly your drone within the areas that you're told not to all right, but my point is I I do choose to have accessories and things like that, but I also have a key override I have different things. I would not have a firearm, for instance, that required a fingerprint to utilize like a. It's like buying a monitor, uh, versus an integrated computer. Well, now, that monitor isn't going to last very long, right, because before monitors lasted forever, because you would take them from computer to computer to computer.
Speaker 1Um, it's a, it's a external accessory that, if something goes wrong with it, can be replaced, versus this integrated idea.
Speaker 2Integration is not always good right now, where you have fcc regulations and if the us government wanted to enact some laws it says no drones may be imported into the united states that don't contain geofencing.
Speaker 1They could do that yeah, but you know, here's the thing um, the those regulations are about to go away, if there's any suits, because Chevron deference exactly, yeah, I, I know, and they're, they're, they're.
Speaker 2They're not bad regulations per se. Um, they do put a very wide breath on the airports and on controlled space, and I think that if you're flying an actual plane and incidentally you know, because I was doing drones while this process was happening I remember their original proposed regulation was that a drone operator had to take, uh like the first 40 hours of a of a private, yeah, plane, they wanted you to become a pilot, essentially, yeah, I was like fuck that shit, that ain't happening.
Speaker 2And eventually that got pushed back to much more reasonable regulations, and one of the things that made it easier, I think, for owners is the software from DJI and other manufacturers that also then just automatically prevented you from doing something you weren't supposed to. Like you can't go too high. You can't go too close to an airport, you can't go too close to a satellite station.
Speaker 1It was the drone nanny state.
Speaker 2Yeah, it really is, yeah, exactly. Any state? Yeah, it really is, yeah, exactly. But also I've I've watched a drone fall from a couple hundred feet up and hit the ground really close to my head oh scary. Now I was flying that drone, so that makes it a little different, I guess. But I had a uh, a battery fall out of a drone at 200 feet up and boy did that thing fall down fast and hard and when it smashed on asphalt there was not much left. Yeah, there was a lot of kinetic energy there. So you don't want to be like, I don't think a helmet or a hardhead would have done any good, it wouldn't have mattered it would have shattered your cervical vertebrae.
Speaker 1Cervical vertebrae. Cervical vertebrae. What is a cervical vertebrae Gene?
Speaker 2The cervical vertebrae are the vertebrae directly below.
Speaker 1This is where you make fun of me and my pronunciation of things, and Turnabout is fair play.
Speaker 2Well, how am I mispronouncing it? It's called a cervical vertebrae. It's the five vertebrae.
Speaker 1Because you said circle at the first.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, okay. No, I thought I said cervical. I might have just said it really fast. But either way, you know, underneath the Atlas, which is right below your skull, you've got the cervical vertebrae, and that's the most likely thing to get damaged in a fall of a large object on your head.
Speaker 1Yeah, by the way, the SIG Sauer P365XL 9mm optics cut, which is the pistol I carry, is currently on sale right now at Battlehawk Armory for $548.88. You paid more than that, didn't you? No, I paid a little less than that because I bought mine used. Oh okay, but that's a damn good price for that gun.
Speaker 2You know, gun prices in general have been pretty reasonable so far, well, not just this year, but really last fall. Yeah, I've noticed a lot of guns, not just used Glocks but just a lot of guns have been reasonable.
Speaker 1Yep, anyway, but that is a fantastic carry gun because it's a high capacity pistol that is still very slim and slim lined and doesn't have a lot of the issues of the 320, like the 365 is like. I think they're going to abandon the 320, p320, to be honest with you because there have been too many issues, the latest over insertion issue, um, being one of them. Now I I think that it's a little ridiculous because you have to have several things happen for that to happen. But anyway, essentially the slide has to be locked open and you have to hold down the magazine release button and then slam a magazine that doesn't have a catch, a magazine that is slightly too big for the gun.
Speaker 2Essentially, and what happens then?
Speaker 1You bend the extractor or not. The extractor, the little ejector plunger piece.
Speaker 2It doesn't do like a slam fire, or anything.
Speaker 1No, it prevents you from firing. It won't go back in the battery.
Speaker 2Well, I mean arguably, that's well. Neither one of them is good.
Speaker 1I mean, if you're in a gun fight and you're trying to change magazines and you slam that in there and you can't shoot. That would be bad.
Speaker 2Yeah, but also I've seen people replacing magazines where the gun is pointing in somebody's feet a lot. So you don't want to have a gun going off when you're loading a magazine, usually either.
Speaker 1Right, but so this is an over-insertion and you're bending metal. So this is it is not trivial.
Speaker 2They have a piece of metal where it shouldn't be. Basically.
Speaker 1They don't have the over-insertion protection that others like. This could be changed in the factory grip like literally over, adding a little over-insertion bit in there and you'd be fine. But anyway the 365 hasn't had the issues that they p320 has had and given the way the modular fire control mechanism works, yeah with the fcus fire control units for both the p320 and the 365, you can make a full-size 365. You can make a teeny little subcompact. Three, six, five.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's pretty modular. It's incredible when I spec'd it out the way I wanted it on their website it was 1800 bucks.
Speaker 1Well, what were you speccing out? Gold? Gold for what?
Speaker 2It was just a long slide with nice cool cutouts on the slide itself. I mean it was a nicely done 365.
Speaker 1Yeah, was it a 365 or was it a 320?
Speaker 2I think it was a 365,. I believe, yeah, it was a while ago.
Speaker 1Regardless, you can go either way and you can customize and you can do lots of things and, yes, you can get them fairly expensive, fairly cheap Depends.
Speaker 2So more gun talk. Did you order your um your Palmetto armories? Uh, what's that gun?
Speaker 1They're, they're they're three oh eight. No, I haven't ordered the three oh eight. Jackal, I have not. Do you still think you have?
Speaker 2Yes, but I am not pulling that trigger right now.
Speaker 1I'm definitely not because I want to hold off for V2. I'll be honest with you what's got me holding off is the pen and welded muzzle device. Off is, uh, the pen and welded muzzle device and that. So if I'm making nfa decisions and thinking about what I want to do, the question I immediately have is okay, well, I've got surefire mounts and surefire things for certain guns. Um, I obviously don't want just a surefire dedicated to one one, 308, and none of the pen and welded gas blocks are the surefire mounts. So, and adapters are retarded, expensive, so I don't know. You can always get it redone, though that is problematic and very expensive is it?
Speaker 2yes so if you want to, I mean it's. It should be doable without a form, though, right, I would think, if you're just replacing one, well, not even, but like an actual gunsmith, replacing one pin-welded mount with a different one.
Speaker 1Well, there's nothing. So as long as the barrel is off the action, it's a barrel. You can have a 10-inch barrel that could go on an AR. I mean we can get into some of the ATF stuff where they bring up intent to construct earn if they're both in the same house, they consider that intent uh, they, they have in the past.
Speaker 2That hasn't held up great and it's bullshit, so anyway, and things that have not held up does not prevent them from still going after people and people getting killed.
Speaker 1Yes, I understand a la Gotcha Well not just Waco a la Clinton, yeah I gotcha, I gotcha. I agree, but in theory, yes, you can change that out. But the problem is it's pin and welded right, so you have to break the welding. You have to then pull the pin, and then you have to change out the muzzle device and you have to put another one on there.
Speaker 2Then you have to pin it and weld it.
Speaker 1So is it just cheaper just to buy a 16 inch barrel and then have that modified, or don't modify it? Just get a 16 inch barrel and put whatever muzzle device you want on.
Speaker 2There is two fucking inches difference you know, 14 7 versus a 16 inch barrel it's not even two inches, it's yes, it's not even like a 12 something no, it's a 14 7 barrel.
Speaker 2Well, so that give me just a 16 inch barrel, please, and let me put my muscle device on there well, and as you know, like a 16 inch barrel on the bullpup is basically four to five inches shorter than a 16 inch barrel on a non-bullp. Yeah, sure, so stiff is sticking a. Uh like I would not want to put a shorter barrel on the Tavor, no, even even with a cannon there. No, you wouldn't, no you could, I mean.
Speaker 1I kind of wish I would have gone with the the 20 inch barrel.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, uh, with the 20-inch barrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I think, yeah, I think it'd be interesting to see how much difference there is in both velocity and to see if there's any accuracy differences with that barrel.
Speaker 1Versus a 16? Yeah, negligible, I mean.
Speaker 2You think all the powders are already burned by 16?
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Speaker 1No, not at all with 308. Yeah, because, 308 needs an 18 inch barrel there you go yeah. Yep, that makes sense. Yeah, now, if you're adding in a suppressor and other things that can assist in some, you know, from a flash standpoint, but not necessarily from a velocity standpoint.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, it's man. It would be so cool if they at the very least take off silencers, off the NFA.
Speaker 1I mean and SBRs, and then I could buy this and not really worry about it. But yeah, yeah, so basically just leave machine guns sure, and I think I I just give us full reset triggers back, and then we're good to go first of all, I think the entire nfa and all laws are infringements and they should be repealed. But my entire point this is the same point I would make on abortion If it were not used for birth control, we wouldn't have a problem. If all cases of birth control.
Speaker 1If all cases of abortion were rape and incest, no one would say a fucking word about abortion. Of abortion were rape and incest, no one would say a fucking word about abortion. Yep, yeah, so if the nfa was nothing but machine guns, I don't think anyone would say a word about it oh, there'd be plenty.
Speaker 2I would probably still say stuff about it, but and there would still be people who would say abortion of any kind is murder, it's an innocent life and everything else.
Speaker 1But the point is the majority, there would not be a movement, there would not be a thing I, I think you're right in that.
Speaker 2Probably the reason that there are as many people as there are donating money to goa and other pro-gun groups isn't to get the right to have full auto back. It is predominantly to get the ability and the right. Well, I mean, we have the rights, we just don't have the abilities to have things like silencers and the barrel of any length. Yeah, that, like that, covers most of the use cases. And then for the people that have the funds to be able to shoot, to shoot full auto the cost of doing so in and of itself limits that group to a fairly small group.
Speaker 2Yeah, like for the P90, which will go through an entire magazine in. I think it's seven seconds or six seconds. Yeah, it's ridiculous 50 round magazine, those rounds. I just checked pricing today. Don't ask me why, but those rounds right now are 69 cents a piece. So 50 round magazine is like 42 dollars. So you're going to go for 42 dollars in six seconds. Now who can afford to have a full auto version of that gun?
Speaker 2not a whole lot of people well, I mean you can afford the full auto, but you're not going to use it very often, right, right, right but but that it breaks the government argument like if you don't ever use the full auto, there's no reason to ban the full auto right well, except if you used it in dangerous situations, it would be extra deadly for some reason yeah, and, and actually with that, my that gun may be one of a few exceptions to the rule, but most guns that are full auto ars uh ak's tommy guns and all these based on my own shooting of them, so on personal experience all of them have a tendency for the barrel to rise. So if you're targeting something, unless you really work against the barrel rise and you should because you know that's what you're getting trained to do a accidental discharge of those full autos will result in a lot of rounds being shot above people's heads. Now there may be something else that those rounds can hit once they start dropping back down with gravity, but generally you're.
Speaker 1It's not like the gun's gonna just stay level and well, and if you accidentally discharge full auto there's a reason why it's called spray and pray right, because you're praying, you're going to hit something, because you're most likely not Full auto fire. Some guns are fairly controllable. The majority of them are not, and you can be far more lethal with semi-auto than full auto.
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Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely and honestly. Even people playing Call of Duty know that yeah. You're much more accurate and more lethal using a sniper rifle at close distances than you are using a machine gun.
Speaker 1So, gene, are you going to go to the inauguration?
Speaker 2Am I going to go to the inauguration? I don't think so, and I think my foot pain this morning just solidified that yeah.
Speaker 1I was tempted years ago. I'm tempted this time, but it is just going to be cold and I am very much worried about what's going to actually end up occurring at the inauguration.
Speaker 2Well, and I think the Democrats will be saying no one wants to go to Trump's inauguration because they all hate him, because they're not going to mention that it's cold. I still think there'll be a ton of people there. I remember when you and I went to Trump's first campaign stop of this election cycle In Texas, which happens to be in. Texas. Well, it was the first in the whole country, I believe, which happens to be in Texas.
Speaker 2I don't know about that, but it was Waco, I'm pretty sure dude, because I remember it was a special event, because it was his kickoff for his new campaign. Okay, but either way. I remember going to that thing where we stood around and consumed highly overpriced drinks and food yes, for about three and a half hours waiting for Trump to show up yes, and then he showed up, gave a little speech and everybody loved it. But it was fun I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2I thought it was worth doing, for sure. Uh, it was definitely a pain in the foot, uh, to do that. And then, of course, uh, you lost where your car was. I had to drive around all over the place trying to find your car well, because I was running late and that was the whole thing, yeah you had somehow managed to park somewhere and and and not remember where it was well, no, the.
Speaker 1The issue was we couldn't go the way I wanted to go because they were changing the traffic direction, thank you, so we had to figure out how to get back. It's not like I couldn't have just walked straight to my car, because I could have thank you very much. It's that the cops wouldn't let just walked straight to my car, because I could have. Thank you very much. It's that the cops wouldn't let us go there and I didn't know the roads well enough to get back to where I needed to be. There is a difference, sir. Thank you.
Speaker 2I whatever? Yeah, I'm just saying that it was. It was a fun event, but it was also kind of a lot of standing around and waiting, and I suspect why I brought it up is also that the inauguration, this will be the same thing. Yeah, it'll be a lot of standing around talking to people that are standing next to you and not a whole lot happening, and then when it finally happens, it's probably going to be over within 20 minutes.
Speaker 1Well, let's make a bet. How many? How many executive orders do you think Trump signs the first day?
Speaker 2Ooh, I know he's talked about quite a few. What's he actually going to do? I think he's going to be pretty tired first day, so they've got to have that number already locked in and ready to go for him. Let's see what would be the edge. So, barring an assassination attempt.
Speaker 1Let's just take you know. Yeah, everything goes smoothly. How many does he write?
Speaker 2I don't think it'll be more than 20 oh, I think it'll be 100 okay, well, there you go now we got a bit I.
Speaker 1I think it will be 100 on his first day.
Speaker 2I think they're going to space him out more?
Speaker 1I don't. I think Trump has signaled everything on getting the ground running. Tom Holdren, you know the border guy here. Yes, he is already. Yeah Well, like people said, when will deportations really start? On day one. Yeah, you know how he's going to do that. It will be really start on day one.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know how he's gonna do that yeah I.
Speaker 1You know how he's gonna do it he's gonna go to a few jails in texas or florida or somewhere, find some illegals and deport their asses. That's what's going to happen day one question I have they're they're going to be able to say this happened day one. They kept our promise. They will do that.
Speaker 2They will. The question I have is a logistical one. What does that actually mean? So you go to jail, you find some guy when are you from, honduras? Okay, does that mean then we wait until we have a plane load full of Honduran refugees to then take them back to Honduras, and this Honduras even going to allow landing clearance for that plane?
Speaker 1Or you can just stick them on a commercial flight.
Speaker 2Okay, but if you stick them in a commercial flight, there's nothing that says immigration will take them back.
Speaker 1Not my problem.
Speaker 2Well, it is the airline's problem if you stick them in a commercial flight, because they'll be shipped right back to the us. And then what?
Speaker 1I think we're going to have some very interesting challenges with latin america and when they refuse to accept people we are deporting. Yeah, that will be, uh, that will be a interesting thing, especially, I think, after what people see happens to northern mexico and the cartels. I don't think that will be an issue you think that'll happen in the first week? No, I think, the declaration of the cartels being terrorist organizations. Uh, cuba's going to get reclassified a terrorist sponsor terror, no, yes no, yes, definitely make a bet on that one.
Speaker 2No, america right now wants cuba as a resort destination, correct? And we're going to take it over. No, we're not going to do it with military power. I think what's going to happen is we're going to take it over. No, we're not going to do it with military power. I think what's going to happen is we're going to have, essentially, a buyout of Cuba happen.
Speaker 1Well, that's possible, but regardless Northern Mexico, I think we're going to tell the cartels look, either play ball and allow us to control Northern Mexico and secure the border. You'll be allowed to bring in x amount of drugs per year, but other than that, fuck off, stop with the human trafficking.
Speaker 2and all this like I can see that people are a lot more concerned about the drug inflow than the human trafficking inflow.
Speaker 1Yeah, I I agree, but that's not the point I'm making. I'm I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm not saying this is a good deal. I'm not saying this is the deal we want, all right, this is just a deal, okay. And I think they're not going to go for it. I think it's not going to work and we will be military action inside Mexico. I think has a very high probability.
Speaker 2I agree with that. I do think there's a very high likelihood of military action inside of Mexico and by reclassifying the cartels, that kind of gives us the well. We've done this everywhere else in the world. Why wouldn't we do it on our own backyard? Yep, g-wat. But also. It's literally the argument Russia's been using for three years.
Speaker 1Yes, and this is going to be part of the negotiation of you know what? Russia Fine New administration. We agree with you. You had the right to do that. You get this territory. Ukraine sit down, shut up. We're not funding you anymore and, by the way, russia, don't don't call us out on our bad shit when we go and do this, because we're backing you up right now, so just don't call us out on it, all right?
Speaker 2That's going to have to be a big part of the negotiation as well, because at least like there have been accusations of Russian meddling and collusion. But if the US keeps holding the Ukraine line while attacking Mexico, the. Pr campaign coming from Russia is going to be next level.
Speaker 1Yes, but if we back the fuck off and change that, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I think Russia's position on this, from my understanding, has not changed a whole lot which is the three regions that were fighting Ukraine and wanted to separate. That's non-negotiable. Those are ours, and then the negotiation piece is going to be how much of a demilitarized zone is there in Ukraine? Not just non-NATO, but actual demilitarized Non-NATO, non-nato, non-nato, non-nato. Not at all, not a NATO.
Speaker 1You saw zayhan's take on that right, uh-uh, oh yeah. Well, russians have to take back georgia and latvia, a whole bunch of stuff, and if they don't, they're screwed well, russia doesn't even want latvia, like none of those little pesky countries that are the most annoying uh, he's talking about from a geographic standpoint and everything else.
Speaker 2They're. They're pains in the ass. These were the the biggest problem countries for Russia. They produce nothing. There's no real GDP with them.
Speaker 1You know that's right, but he's talking about the literal tanks of Russia, yeah, yeah. Well, the USSR, but yes.
Speaker 2Well, it was actually Russia before. It was the USSR. Okay, so the Russian Empire was actually bigger than the USSR, except for a couple of countries in Europe like Germany.
Speaker 1Uh-huh, yeah, I would like to see that map and when it was produced, I've seen that map on X.
Speaker 2Uh-huh yeah, in the late 1800s was when Russia was at its peak, okay.
Speaker 1Anyway, point is I think that there's going to be some interesting moves.
Speaker 3I think there are going to be some interesting moves pretty early. That's the entire point.
Speaker 1I'm sorry. I said right before Alaska got sold was when Russia was at its peak yeah go ahead, I think we're going to see some fairly significant moves out of the Trump admin day. One is my entire point. Yeah, I do too, I'm still saying 20 or less executive orders.
Speaker 2So out of the Trump admin day. One is my entire point. Yeah, I do too. I'm still saying 20 or less executive orders.
Speaker 1Okay, I think it'll be more than that.
Speaker 2I'm also going to say that there's probably going to be 20 from Biden on the last day of his presidency.
Speaker 1Yeah, so there'll be overlap. Maybe They'll be fighting each other.
Speaker 2My last order is none of Trump's orders make any difference.
Speaker 1Yeah, the Trump's orders are hereby nullified yeah exactly Fuck Trump. I declared what did you see? I declare. January 20th, official national fuck Trump day. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2Did you see that video of the speaker of the house on um on that liberal chick show talk show? No, no, okay. So he was on and he was asked about a reference to joe's dementia and he said well, I know for a fact that joe's not been running the country, that other people have been running it, and so so he? He said well, this story, I think, is already out in public, so I can tell it. He talked about how, after he became speaker of the house, he started asking to see Joe, uh the president, and for six weeks they kept, uh, pushing back on it and while Joe's really busy, you know, his schedule is only full, like it's the fucking speaker of the house. It's the number two position, well, number three, right after the vp.
Speaker 1So third in line to the presidency a president can't sell for six weeks second in line, but yes yeah, can't see him well after the vp though president. Dies VP becomes president VP dies.
Speaker 2Yeah, right, in my mind that's like third, but okay, second in line, I guess that makes sense. Second in line, third person, but either way, uh, he, um, so he, he finally gets. Uh, he, he talks to the press saying the Democrats won't allow the speaker to talk to the president. So that helps, they finally get him an appointment to see Joe and he shows up. And it's not just Joe sitting there, it's Joe and Schumer and Kamala and Nancy and a whole cadre of liberal Democrats. Okay, and yeah, right, so it's like no, no, I, I need to talk to the president, you know, and, and joe and says yeah well, let's why don't we just, uh, we'll just talk by ourselves once.
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Speaker 2You guys, you know, go and let us just do our thing here. But joe's fine with just talking directly with him. And he said the looks on these people's faces as they were leaving the old office was of complete terror. Um, because they didn't want him talking directly with joe. And so he starts talking to him. They talk about whatever. And then he says, joe, you know, I, I gotta ask you what? What is even the rationale behind shutting down the shipping of lng to ukraine out of louisiana? Because you know we've got all these texas and louisiana. But, yes, well, he doesn't give a shit about tex, he's from Louisiana, so he's representing the state of Louisiana, so he's like this is having a large impact. Not only that, it seems to be countered to, you know, helping Europe in their weaning off of Russian oil.
Speaker 2Why did you sign this executive order that stopped LNG? And Joe says, well, I didn't do that. I said what do you mean? You didn't do that. No, you signed one. We can probably have a secretary come and bring it. He says, no, I never signed anything like that. And then they finally bring in the order and Joe's like, oh no, no, what I signed was an executive order to do a feasibility study on what that would mean, because, um yeah, we, we certainly aren't going to stop the flow of LG, of of what's the acronym?
Speaker 2Uh, liquefied natural gas, lng yeah, and and so Joe, and, and he says that liquid natural gas, lng, and so Joe, and he says that he believed Joe. He thinks Joe was completely unaware that the executive order that was placed in front of him was for stopping the flow of LNG. He thought it was, and somebody probably told him that this is an executive order to do a feasibility study, like he didn't think Joe had just created this bullshit thing on the fly. He thinks Joe was pretty sincere, but clearly he's just been signing whatever they hand in front of him.
Speaker 1Well, I mean, look at again, again, what we talked about at the beginning of the show. Right, this, the equal rights amendment. He, he affirmed it. Well, what the? What the fuck does that mean? It means nothing, nothing changed. But oh no, he passed, he ratified the. Oh, they're gonna be. I guarantee you this is gonna be a thing for on blue sky I was on blue sky this morning looking around too.
Speaker 2I I'm trolling on you're. I really worry about you you've, you, you're, you're.
Speaker 1Your brain's gonna break right between little red book and blue sky.
Speaker 2Damn it uh-huh well someone's got to keep an eye on the opposition man. So the you know the blue sky is full of the usual suspects like what's our complete crazy liberal dude in Texas here? Mark, mark, mark, what's his name? Who owns the basketball team?
Speaker 1Which one? The Texas one, mark mark, what's his name? The who owns the basketball team? Which one? The texas one. There are several texas basketball teams. All right, the dallas you're talking about the dallas mavericks.
Speaker 2Mavericks, yeah. Who owns them? Yeah, um, cuban, cuban, yeah. So cuban's on there. He's posting on there non-stop, yeah and uh, you know he's. He's talking about how stupid trump is and how his latest post today was like well, I hope in the little gift bags that trump gives to his top, people like um elon musk and zuckerberg are are going to be knee pads for when they're on their knees sucking his cock.
Speaker 1Well, but see, but that's just him fantasizing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know man, I like a lot of Mark Cuban's stuff from like short tank and things like that, but the dude is obviously off his fucking rocker in a lot of ways, so I don't know I think that their portrayal of him that was in the almost documentary show silicon valley uh, was extremely accurate.
Speaker 2Mark cuban is the epitome of a guy three comma club yeah the three comma club guy, the guy that got lucky in his first sale and his entire rest of his life has been about not falling off below 1 billion he just got he just whatever he needs to do.
Speaker 1He just needs to do just just to still be in the three comic club yeah, well, anyway, regardless, what it comes down to is is he just deranged or is there more to it? And again, this the entire. Where we started with this conversation right now was on the Equal Rights Amendment and what liberals were going to think and how it was going to be a problem for years. Right, like that's where we were before we went off on this rabbit trail. Yeah.
Speaker 1Anyway, I'm just saying I think that this is going to be a problem. Anyway, I'm just saying I think that this is going to be a problem and I don't know how you solve it. Because you have an ineligible, you have a, you have a lack of education. That people say, oh well, biden signed an executive order saying this amendment was done, so are we going to devolve? To the point where a president can amend the Constitution by executive order.
Speaker 2So are we going to devolve to the point where a president can amend the Constitution by executive order? Well, as far as people that like him are concerned, yeah, because they're going to say that Trump needs to get jailed for not holding up the executive order that Biden signed.
Speaker 1My point is where does this go in our society, and why was this fucking dog turd dropped the way? Was this? It's? It's very simple Her drops the way it was.
Speaker 2It is literally this stupidity, and this is, this is the core problem.
Speaker 1It seems like a very easy answer to something that I think has to be more nefarious.
Speaker 2No, I think it is very simple. No, I think it is very simple. It is simply the fact that we allow people that have no clue and therefore no business affecting politics, to affect politics. We barely got Trump elected. Everyone's celebrating how it's a mandate. It's a mandate. We got a majority. We got a barely a majority, and we lost the last two majorities where, even when the president that was elected by um the electoral college was a republican, we still lost, up until this election, the popular vote. And what that tells me is very simple we ought to have fewer people voting.
Speaker 2We only should have people voting that know something about politics, and my solution for that has not changed in 40 years since I was in school whole test, essentially, and that test consists of a blank piece of paper. Write down who you're voting for.
Speaker 3That's it, if you don't know who you're voting for maybe you shouldn't be voting.
Speaker 1I can back that up. I mean, there's no more simple solution than that. I'm really considering buying something from Sam's before this cold spell comes in. What's that? A little hot tub to put on the back deck.
Speaker 2You think they got them in stock I guarantee you, they do yeah, uh, and then how's that work? Because just kind of like a, is the heater hot, good enough to be able to heat up the water to a nice, comfortable level when it's below freezing? Oh, I mean, that would be my question, because you know, all these things can only do a relative they maybe it'll go by 40 degrees up or whatever.
Speaker 1Well, I mean we'll see, but it would. It might be nice to sit out there when it's like 17 and in like 80, 90 degree water. It'd be, you know be nice.
Speaker 2Oh, absolutely, yeah, yeah, have you ever done that? Well, you, you've been up north like you grew up and like this is making me think of, like the hot springs, and stuff like that yeah yeah, that's exactly. This is exactly where my brain is going no outside and you're sitting in hot water with a hot toddy in your hand.
Speaker 1Well, I don't really like the name toddy, but sure.
Speaker 2You know it's a drink, though, right.
Speaker 1Yes, but I'm saying I would prefer the woman instead of the booze.
Speaker 2Well, you know that's up to her, I guess Is it. Well, you know that's up to her, I guess is it. Uh, I'm giving you something realistic, not theoretical here, so don't take a hot toddy yeah, anyway, no, uh, yes, it would be nice, it's.
Speaker 1I'm just thinking of this cold weather that's coming and I'm tempted, that's all.
Speaker 2I'm saying but you don't think a hot toddy is a good drink for cold weather like that?
Speaker 1Sure sure and well, how do you make your hot toddy?
Speaker 2Well, with honey and lemon, a little bit of cinnamon. And Hot water and a li, a liquor, of your choice. I personally have made them with Southern comfort in the past.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's gotta be a whiskey.
Speaker 2I mean it doesn't have to be a whiskey, but it could be a whiskey. I like sweeter stuff.
Speaker 1So here's a. They've got some semi permanent ones here, but they've got some semi-permanent ones here, but they've got some permanent ones and some inflatable ones too. Oh, I think they're asking for trouble for inflatable all it's got to do is last a year, dude okay, well, yeah in that case.
Speaker 2If you don't mind being a one-year thing, then yeah for 450 bucks for a little bit of a lark yeah I think the inflatables yeah, that's that's. Yeah, yeah at that price for sure, and yes, I can pick it up at 6 pm uh, but my guess is inflatable one's not going to get your water hot enough when it's freezing below zero.
Speaker 1It says it'll do up to 100 easily reach 104 c or 104 c 140 c, 40 c, 40 c it'll reach 40 c, but at what temperature?
Speaker 2I mean, those are all relative increases, they're not fixed, like if it's 70 out it may reach 100. But if it's 40 out it may not reach 100. I don't know.
Speaker 1But it's got the Sam's Club warranty, which means I can return it for any reason exactly use it once, bring it back.
Speaker 2I remember I I returned a uh elliptical bike that way after about a year yeah, they've got a thermopod.
Speaker 1This is kind of interesting. That is an inflatable one person, little like uh not. Instead of like a spa, it's like a uh, you know those ice baths or whatever at the gym yeah yeah, it's like that huh for that's only 200 bucks well, that's different than hot tub, but yeah well, but it's kind of a hot tub you'd be sitting down in it. Same thing, just different shape.
Speaker 2It's not multiple people. I didn't come across as a link.
Speaker 1How did it not come across as a link?
Speaker 2Yeah, it's grayed out. You can't click on it. I didn't know. I'm looking at the thing now, though. Theropod, inflatable ice bath oh, you want to cool off?
Speaker 1There's heat or cold there, but oh okay, I was looking at the cold one anyway, so you can do the ice bags or whatever. But anyway, it's an insulated thing, you can anyway oh, they have the cardia mobile.
Speaker 2Okay, that's the one lead In that category of stuff. I picked up one of these CardiaMobile EKG sensors.
Speaker 1Yeah, to be able to you know when you're dying.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've got a five-lead one, so it's more extensive.
Speaker 1Of course. But why would you do that? Why do you need to track your heart rate that closely?
Speaker 2Because I'm you know, I'm a fat dude. I need to track my heart. You never know what cocaine does to a heart.
Speaker 1It damages it. I think we do know what it does.
Speaker 2Well, we don't know that for a fact, but there is some hypothesis in that regard.
Speaker 1Okay, and on that note, gene, I think we've got the episode yes fair enough sounds good.
Speaker 2Uh, once again, thank everybody that is a continuing supporter of this show, uh, via our link in uh the bus routes or and or our site.
Speaker 1We've got to get better at this. We actually have some fan mail that we need to talk about that.
Speaker 2We totally skipped.
Speaker 1And you know what? We're going to skip it for today and we'll do it next week, and the reason why is because I don't want to do it at the end of the show. Why. Because I want to do it at the beginning of the show instead of at the end of the show.
Speaker 2We're going to ask Look, you don't want to drag this out for two weeks. The guy's going to get angry that you dragged it out. I think the fan mail said something in regard of Ben doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Gene's usually always right. Pretty sure that's what it said.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was just a thank you, so anyway, but one of the producers we've actually met before at one of the houston.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, that guy yeah, the houston thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, or you, you were talking about the community thing that you got I was talking about the community thing that I got. Yeah, you could talk about the other, I don't have that, that those sets got sent to you, not me.
Speaker 2I know, I know that's because they're complaining about you they're saying ben finally is going to watch the best show on the planet called community and now that super crappy show called babylon 5 which several people have gotten into babylon 5 since this recommendation to you I don't see anything wrong.
Speaker 2Babylon 5 I think it's a good show. Um, the graphics definitely are very dated for when it came out, but the storylines and everything else I thought were pretty good. I like quite a bit of the actors on there. I will say by season five I kind of felt a little more ambivalent, like eh, whatever. But the buildup up to the actual war and the conclusion of that war was very good.
Speaker 1Well, there's more to come. There's more war to come as you watch.
Speaker 2I just don't know if I care that much anymore.
Speaker 1Okay, Well, anyway, we've got a producer out of Houston who we met at one of the meetups, that saying we're doing a good job and everything, and one of the things I would just like to say is if you like the show enough to send us a message, please make sure you're sharing it with your friends.
Location Identification for Podcast Messages
Speaker 2Yeah, do that also and hit people in the mouth also a pet peeve for me is whenever people use this thing to send us messages uh-huh if you want an actual reply, not just a mention of the show, put your email in there, because all we see is the last four digits of your phone number and the city that you're in, so like, okay, Houston guy. Thanks.
Speaker 1Yeah, and you gotta put a name you like the Christmas song.
Speaker 2That's awesome, Houston guy.
Speaker 1If you don't put a name, how can we say oh, this is so-and-so without, so I can refer to you as 5-9-9-9-9. But don't give his number away. Well, it's only last four.
Speaker 2But you know what?
Speaker 1his first three are based on the location so all you gotta got is the middle three? No, you don't. What do you mean?
Speaker 3you don't area code how many area codes do you think the houston area has my friend more than that more than that.
Speaker 1Well, I think and just because he's in houston doesn't mean he has a houston area code. Look at me, I'm in fucking college station with an idaho area code.
Speaker 2The only way this would know that he's in houston is based on the area code so he may not be in our ip address or whatever. I doubt it's ip I think it's just taking the phone area code. That's what I would do. Well, I can ask him. I'll find out. I'll email the uh buzzsprout guys see what they're using to determine the location. Yeah, all right well either way.
Speaker 2Uh, we're, we're. We're happy to get those messages from you if, if you want to be mentioned, just you know, we'll leave a name or something and if you want an actual email response back, leave an email yes, and remember questions for us to answer on the show, things like that.
Speaker 1If we want to try that segment out, dude at namebencom, send us that and we'll talk to you next week, gene.
Speaker 2All right, Sounds good Ben.
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