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Epstein Files: Redacted Truth or Controlled Narrative?
What happens when promises of transparency collide with political reality? This week, we dive into the controversial release of the Epstein files and why what wasn't shown matters more than what was. The pattern of flip-flopping from "we'll release everything" to heavily redacted binders has left many wondering whether Trump is compromised or something bigger is at play. Could Epstein have been a government asset all along?
The conversation shifts to an analysis of Elon Musk's ambitious plan to create a viable third party in America. While many dismiss this as impossible, we explore a fascinating strategic pathway: what if Musk targeted just four key Senate seats? With the right candidates in pivotal races, a new party could hold the balance of power without needing to win the presidency. This mathematic leverage could fundamentally transform American politics by forcing coalition building.
We also examine the devastating Texas flood that claimed 121 lives when the Guadalupe River rose 21 feet in just 45 minutes. The tragedy brought out both the best in humanity—with YouTubers rushing to help—and the worst, as some callously dismissed the deaths based on political affiliation. Meanwhile, gun rights advocates received promising news as multiple organizations file lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the NFA now that the tax amount has been reduced to zero.
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Howdy Ben? How are you today, Gene? I'm doing pretty well. I'm doing pretty well. That's good. We're recording at a new time. New time, new channel.
Speaker 2:New channel.
Speaker 1:Really, I'm just.
Speaker 2:You know when they used to move TV shows. Same bad time, same bad channel, you know. Well, yeah, we are switching our recording dates, which may affect when the episodes are In fact. It will obviously affect when the episodes are in fact, it will obviously affect when the episodes are published. We're recording on thursdays. Moving forward, historically, I've usually not posted until the next day, sometimes two, which means these episodes should come out on probably fridays most of the time, and sometimes on saturdays, and if I have nothing at all going on, they'll come out thursdays. But you know, there's so much editing involved with publishing these things that I I mean, if people started donating more or something aside from my PO Box or my PayPal started filling up, maybe I'd get them out on time, I mean sooner. But yeah, we just, you know we're getting by, we're doing okay, we lost one, we did, we're doing.
Speaker 1:Okay, we lost one. We did. We lost a $3 a month subscriber. Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2:That sucks. Now we're going to need like two $5 ones to replace that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to save inflation. Mm-hmm, exactly, or some good Bitcoin donations. Well, I was going to say, speaking of inflation.
Speaker 2:The problem with getting Bitcoin as donations is that the amount of Bitcoin you're going to get is going to be a lot lower because Bitcoin's worth more now. So it's going to be like .0000001 Bitcoin, aka one sat.
Speaker 1:Well, I have some sats sitting in fountain that I'm trying to get out of fountain into my main wallet and it is not easy.
Speaker 2:See, you're experiencing a version of what I experienced using a freaking service I was paying 15 bucks a month for and I just couldn't get it. I I don't even want to think about like how difficult it's going to be trying to get money out of darren well, or getting money out of you you know, I don't know about that. Uh, I have no money. That's what it comes down to. You know, I don't know, about that.
Speaker 2:I have no money. That's what it comes down to, but you know Darren's definitely sitting on some of my money. That's how it goes. That's how it goes, but that's all right. Where do you want to start? We got a few stories. One of them is huge, obviously.
Speaker 1:Well, there's several huge stories, so which one are you referring to?
Speaker 2:I'm referring to that. There's nothing to see here.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I think that can wait, especially since they're already talking about releasing more information.
Speaker 2:That came out today. Yeah, I know, Too little, too late.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I think it's going to be that you know we'll see Okay late, okay. Well, I think it's gonna be that you know we'll see the okay. What we're talking about right now is the epstein client list and the unsigned, undated memo that was there right.
Speaker 2:So which people thought, like tim pool, thought it was fake originally and then he realized it wasn't, and then he realized it wasn't, given the unsigned, undated nature and the fact that what they released was 11 hours of video, with the one minute where he actually died missing, I thought that was pretty funny you know, with the way this entire release of information has gone all of it on all the first binder of information they put out and now this rumored now that we're going to get some more information but, then there's so much contradictory stuff here.
Speaker 1:Either, I think, you can only believe one of two things Either Trump is totally compromised or there's something big enough in this that they're having to really be careful and stage what they're doing, and there's a fight going on right now.
Speaker 2:I agree, sorry, I'm eating here, but You're eating somebody else's order. Mm-hmm, I'm not going to not eat, it's just not what I ordered.
Speaker 1:Which is when did you order from this time, Gene?
Speaker 2:Oh, it's Hawaiian sushi. What do you call that? Pokey Pokey? Yeah, it's actually my favorite pokey place. Occasionally they fuck up orders, but usually the fuck up entails like screwing up one ingredient that they forgot to put in there. Something clearly, they just gave me somebody else's order. I had miso soup. I got no miso soup. I had a different order of the fish they got than what was delivered, so somebody's got my order probably but anyway doesn't mean I'm not gonna eat the bad, the wrong one I don't know yeah, my take is that there very likely is a fight or battle or whatever you want to call it going on because they've been flip-flopping right.
Speaker 2:This has not been a consistent, long-term cover-up kind of thing where they're like, yeah, there's nothing here. I mean we're still looking at it, but we're not, we're not hopeful. This was like we've got all these boxes and we're going to release everything and then they don't. Then they did the whole skit with the binders, which, frankly, some of these YouTubers I've been watching that were part of that whole binder PR piece are very upset right now. They're like we've been used. This is bullshit. Like they used us as props to take people's attention off of what was actually going on well, you know, I again, it depends.
Speaker 1:You either believe that there is something here and we'll eventually see it, or you don't. And yeah, I don't know, man. Man, I don't know what could cause Dan Bogino and Kash Patel to flip-flop the way they have, unless someone's either holding a gun to their kid's head or there's something bigger going on.
Speaker 2:Oh, come on, everyone's so dramatic with that whole like oh, they've got to have a gun to their kids' heads, kind of stuff. No, no, no, no, anybody in any job if their boss tells them. By the way, don't forget that everything you know about what actually happened here is still classified and will likely remain classified for 20 years, and that breaking that classification is a felony. That's all anyone has to do, and the people shut the fuck up and not talk about it. And the reason it's classified because I haven't seen any better explanation than the one I've been saying for a while now is because this was always a us government sanctioned operation. Jeffrey epstein was not some dude doing this by himself, nor was he employed by the jews. He was working as an employee for the us government I mean senior dude so okay.
Speaker 2:Well, if we're gonna look at last names, why is it that 95% of all shootings in the United States are committed by Christians? I think we ought to ban guns for Christians. Only let them juice them. We're going to look at last names. I mean, you want to use stats? I'll be happy to use stats. It's not going to look good, dude.
Speaker 2:I am just joking with you I know, but besides we know you're my massage handler, so I should watch it no such thing anyway, my point is that if it's, if it's a foreign government operation, there's certainly pros and cons to way to provide any information about somebody that was engaged in a government sanction activity If it wasn't the U S government sanction, right. So there there's. There's certainly ways to get around that too, by lying about who he was and what he was doing, but to actually just keep all information locked up after saying we're going to get to the bottom of it before they had access. Now they've both seen it, they both talked about it, how they've seen all the files, but they can't say anything. All they can say is there's nothing there. Well, it's pretty obvious to me that the nothing there and the reason no one's talking about it, it's not because, like trump's all over it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know some people are pushing that line. I don't think that's too likely. I I have also been pushing or pushing, publishing quotes from trump about epstein throughout the 90s. They were buddy buddies. Like Trump fell for this hook line and sinker. He clearly had no idea who Epstein was working for or what he was doing. As far as Trump's concerned, he's another rich dude that likes babes. But that doesn't mean that Trump is into kiddie porn. It just means that Trump's always liked chicks and I mean one thing we can be sure of Trump's not gay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. One thing I'll say, though, is, for instance, people have made a big deal out of, you know, the reporter asking Trump a question, and he'd go why are we talking about that? There's other things. I mean he's in the middle of talking about the flood in Texas that we'll get to things. I mean he's in the middle of talking about the flood in texas that we'll get to, and yeah, it was pretty, you know, like, hey, let this, we're talking about a tragedy here, let's focus on this. So I, I don't know, that's the way I I see that I'm on the other side of that.
Speaker 2:I. I think that was probably worse for him to do to minimize Epstein when literally everybody's talking about it. Then it was for him to, or for the department to just not have any info about it, because now it looks like you're not what he should have. Here's what he should have said. It's like, guys, I always wanted to get to the bottom of the whole obscene thing. You know, I and I I picked people that I trusted to do it and they did it and they poured through all the documents. Turns out there was nothing there. I'm not happy about that. I'm going to direct them to continue looking for more information, but what we have right now indicates there's nothing there like that would have been the correct pr answer. Instead, he starts railing on a reporter that asked about a legitimate question about literally the hottest topic going on on the news cycle right now, and it's not just on x. Every liberal tv channel is talking about this.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, have you watched any of what Luke Rudkowski has been saying?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I've seen what he posts on X.
Speaker 1:Well, he ended on his channel, but I haven't seen his channel. Well, he is rather pissed, to say the least, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So Well, and Luke's been there. In fact, that was one of my tweets. Yeah, he was one of the guys that went to Epstein Island. Some of the videos that you see were shot by him, that everyone's using.
Speaker 1:Which cha-ching On royalties?
Speaker 2:Yeah, hopefully. It all depends if he sold it or if he kept it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he may have sold the rights Well regardless what this boils down to for me, yeah, yeah, what this boils down to for me is hey look, this is not the best way to go about this, but we're not just done here yet. We have to figure out are they going to release more information? Is any of this going to come out like if we're, if we're a year or two down the road and stuff still hasn't come out or whatever, and we haven't seen heads roll, then okay, that's not a great look. But given everything else that is going on you know, james Comey and Clapper getting criminal investigations, things like that that's pretty good stuff and you know, let's give them time to work.
Speaker 2:Let's see what comes out. Does it really affect any of us as Americans, or does it just affect Trump? What do you mean? Well, investigating Comey.
Speaker 1:It hugely affects. How would it not affect Americans?
Speaker 2:Comey has no power in anything. He's not in government, he's a private citizen working for a think tank.
Speaker 1:Okay, and he lied to the American people and he did a lot of bad shit and I, you know, epstein is at least likely dead, comey is alive, we don't know we never saw a body. Yeah, that's why I said likely. So I don't know, man, I think it's pretty okay to have some hope that some good stuff is still going to come out of this.
Speaker 2:Sure, hope's good. Just don't get all the way out to the edge of hope and become a Q.
Speaker 1:Trust the plan.
Speaker 2:Because the whole QAnon thing, I mean the liberals have their own version of it too. Yeah, exactly exactly but it's I don't know. I think it's better to be a little more skeptical, a little more pessimistic, and then have a pleasant surprise when things actually go well. That's generally been my mantra, but in this case I mean you're also, you're also just bah humbug fuddy-duddy.
Speaker 2:Well, you say that, but I'm more right than wrong. I mean, that's the thing it's like. It's not like I'm operating in a mode that's different than what the world is operating in. I just I don't start off seeing the best possible outcome and then have to make adjustments as things progressively get worse. I start with one of the not necessarily the worst, but certainly a much worse outcome as the probability and then adjust that as things change.
Speaker 2:You know, as we were getting closer to the election day, the likelihood of Trump getting elected was going up and up, and I was starting to say that, and we were talking about how you know, I thought he had going up and up and I was starting to say that, and we were talking about how you know, I thought he had no chance in hell. Now I'm saying it's got a pretty good chance. There's no guarantees, obviously, but it sure seems like he's got a way better chance now than he did four years ago and, sure enough, he wins. So I don't know, man, it's not a good look.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is something we probably agree on. It's like, no matter how you slice this, this was a major ding in trump's armor. This, this, definitely. I don't know how many people are gonna stick to what they're saying, but there's probably a good 20, 25% of people that were rah-rah MAGA that are saying it's the same shit as before. I'm not voting for Trump or his cronies again. And that plays right into the other topic, which is finally the formation of Elon's other party.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2:Ah, okay, who's the pessimist now?
Speaker 1:well, I mean it's. First of all, did you see nick fredis's stuff on it?
Speaker 2:I was just gonna bring it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I watched the whole episode yeah, I think they're pretty right now, can he? I'm having to type in a password. Can he sway? Can he sway voters in a few key races and get some power that way? Yeah, sure, but that's all he's going to be able to do it's a.
Speaker 2:He doesn't need to become president here, unlike everybody else can?
Speaker 1:Well, he can't.
Speaker 2:Exactly so all he needs to do and he outlined it when he was talking about it on X. The goal here isn't to replace the Republican Party. The goal is to make America a multi-party country, like a lot of European countries are.
Speaker 1:But that we can't be, Well, we can. We really can't because of the Right, but you understand why we have two parties Structurally.
Speaker 2:Why don't you go ahead and tell me?
Speaker 1:So, structurally, the reason why we have two parties is because we haven't first passed the post system and so as soon as we get 51, you win. There is no coalition. You cannot have a president with less than 51 of the electoral college yeah, I don't think Trump is talking about the presidency whatsoever.
Speaker 2:You mean Musk Musk? Yeah, he's talking about senators. Okay, yeah, sure, first and foremost, and how many?
Speaker 1:third-party senators have we had over the years? In my political lifetime maybe five or six.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three or four. And most of them were disaffected democrats or libertarians, yeah I don't know of a single actual libertarian that was elected well, not elected, but I think rand paul dropped out of the republican party no, he hasn't you, are you sure?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:All right, that's pretty sure he dropped out, but either way, I mean certainly Massey will. I think that it's not a bad approach because if you focus in and you start with specifically the Senate, all you have to do is get four people Four people elected that are going to be effectively providing the decision-making power, because the other two blocks are always going to vote together or against each other. So you're effectively going to have this third party, the one that actually makes the decision whether a bill gets out to a signature of president or not okay, and if you did it smartly, what he would?
Speaker 2:do would be to take the two most vulnerable Republican seats in the Senate and the two most vulnerable Democrat seats in the Senate. Take two from each. By spending a shit ton of money to get the right candidates in, dates in, and then, assuming these four people don't squabble with each other, you got a an opportunity to absolutely cement in a real three-party and have a coalition-based system. Now you, on top of that, if you can manage to do a similar thing in the house it's a little more difficult, but could be done you'd have to. Your block would probably have to be about 30 people, but you could do it it's just the senate. You could do it with as few as four. And then, once again, you, you've got major control. You're. You're essentially getting to decide on every topic, every bill, which of the two proposals are better. It does not matter who's in power at that point. It doesn't matter if the Republicans control the House, the Republicans control the Senate or Democrats control either one, because neither party would have an absolute 51 majority 51%.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unless you piss off the Republicans and Democrats to the point where they actually start working together, which would be hilarious. That's fine too. Point where they actually start working together, which would be hilarious.
Speaker 2:That's fine too, you know. I just think that way too many people have just assumed it's impossible to do this. Well, Musk's spent his whole life doing things that other people assume are impossible.
Speaker 1:Well, we will see. He's got the money, he can do it, but whether or not it actually translates into any real change or power.
Speaker 2:That's a whole separate. I'm not holding my breath on that one. Yeah, I'm too early to predict anything on that, but could he do something like that?
Speaker 1:I think he's going to run into is especially when he says he wants to be moderate and center of the road. Well, on gun control, that means you want to take my guns or you're not going to take the guns enough Like I. Just, I think he's going to find out that that doesn't inspire anyone, I guess.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe we'll see what happens. But it's you know, I still run the, the linkedin nra group.
Speaker 2:Technically okay and one of the ground rules that I came up with back 18 years ago when I first started it was that this is a group for people that are members of the nra and who believe in the second amendment and enjoy guns. Within that requirement, we don't care if you're a republican, democrat, libertarian or anybody else. So there won't be any or there hasn't been. I mean, well, there has, but we've kicked people out. But the point is there's no political, general political conversation there. Nobody should be assuming, because you're in an NRA, clearly you're going to vote Republican. That's a bad assumption. But likewise it's a bad assumption to think that you're going to get a bunch of people that are Democrats in there that are gone nuts as well.
Speaker 2:So, because we've always got a situation where some people are going to be in the minority, the point of the group and there's a reason I'm bringing all this up is to focus on the thing that we have in common, which is our belief in the Second Amendment, and there's a reason I'm bringing all this up is to focus on the thing that we have in common, which is our belief in the Second Amendment and our love and enjoyment of guns. And when you focus on those things what you start realizing very quickly that everybody, from libertarians to Republicans, democrats, even people that are otherwise very socialistic, have a common ground and can talk about actions that can be done on the things that they all agree on. I think that same kind of approach is what Musk is going to end up using for this new party. So if their contention issues his gun, the party just does not have a platform on guns. That question is just not answered we'll see.
Speaker 1:Maybe he can do it, maybe we'll find out.
Speaker 2:It would certainly go a long way to get rid of the uniparty if he can break the uniparty establishment, then great.
Speaker 1:I am waiting to see if he can actually do it, even if it's temporary right, let's say he manages to get like four people into the Senate.
Speaker 2:Even if all that does is motivate Republicans to not elect RINOs, just so they can have enough actual Republicans in there, that would be a win.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll see. So well, since you used the gun analogy, do you want to talk about the new lawsuits?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so one of the things I can start it off and then I'll swallow some food and you can talk about it. One of the things that came out of the big beautiful bill, as it's so-called, is a lowering of the taxes on items that were part of the NFA to $0. Now I had predicted or I, I, I was hoping it wouldn't happen, but I kind of figured that somebody would be smart enough to realize you can't have it be zero because it's tax, and they would have changed it to one dollar. Thankfully, nobody had enough brains to do that, and so it actually passed with zero dollars, which means now you've got a tax and it is a tax, because this actually went to the supreme court in, I think, 1938 or something 34 somewhere around there, and the arguments which kept the nfa from being unconstitutional was it was a tax-based argument.
Speaker 2:It was essentially saying look, no one is banning guns, no one's banning fully automatic rifles. What we're doing is we're putting in a hefty tax on it, which Congress absolutely has the power to do. So I still think it was a bad bill, obviously from the get-go, but nonetheless it passed. And then Supreme Court agreed that, since this was a tax, it was within the purview of Congress to pass in the present site become law of the land. So now that the tax amount has been reduced to zero, what you have is effectively a bunch of rules for items that are taxed at a rate of zero, and those rules extend to the fact that you need to not only pass a background check but you need to provide bio data, you need to provide fingerprints, you need to provide a photograph, so all these things that otherwise have been ruled as unenforceable for gun ownership. So there's the conundrum. Now a few organizations, including. I love the fact that Palmetto State's part of this too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, they're a fairly interested party now that they're selling suppressors, yep.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. So yeah, it's a good point. I hadn't thought about that. But you're absolutely right, because they're like the government is preventing them from making more money.
Speaker 1:Yep exactly.
Speaker 2:But the GOA, which is kind of the main group lately, that's kind of Gun Owners of America for legislative action, used to do for the nra back 20 years ago. You know nra kind of aged out with a lot of the boomers and, uh, really stopped being much of a political entity the way it used to be and frankly, it had some leadership problems where people were coming in that were not altogether gun.
Speaker 2:you know, friends I don't know how to describe it Like after Charlton Heston stopped being the president of the NRA, I think things kind of started.
Speaker 1:Charlton Heston was okay, but he was unaffected.
Speaker 2:Well, he was already old when he got that role, but yeah, either way, the point is, the GOA has been doing a bang up job. I encourage everybody to join it. It's only 25 bucks a year and the benefit now, of course, is that since they filed the first lawsuit, the lawsuit determined will be applied strictly to the groups that sued and their members, which means while Palmetto State is great that they're joining.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what Wait? So they are looking at this as a potential class as well. So they're going to try and certify a class on this.
Speaker 2:They can. The Supreme Court sorry, they've already talked about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they said that the way you can do a universal injunction is through class action. So they're going to certify a class that every gun owner who wants to own a suppressor is in the class is in the class and considering that the illegal aliens and birthright citizenship class said any illegal aliens and their potential offspring. You know, I I think we can get the class is what I'm saying. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I don't think it depends on the judge not really okay, whatever then we have to wait for it to go to the supreme court, but whatever yeah, exactly, it'll go, it'll have I. I really think you're wrong on this. I think we'll be able to get the class.
Speaker 2:We'll see, we'll see if we are. That's great, but won't matter for me because I'm part of the goa and anybody who is a member at the time of the ruling will get the results applied to them. So if the net outcome of this lawsuit is that you're right, I should join the GOA. I can't believe you're not in it. I just can't do it, man.
Speaker 1:Why it's $25, dude. It's not that, it's just that I don't think they do enough. So it's part of the reason why I don't ever date the NRA or join the NRA.
Speaker 2:Well, you don't get much these days from the NRA.
Speaker 1:I'll agree with that but but hey, I'm a Palmetto state customer, so maybe that'll come out. Palmetto state customer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you may need to be a customer of theirs who bought a silencer too, but either way it's, I certainly encourage everybody to join the groups that are suing. I think there's eight or nine now that are part of the lawsuit. Goa are the guys that started it. I think they probably are the most legally focused. That's. That's. All they do is sue the government.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and work on legislation yeah. But what I mean is they don't do training programs or other shit that NRA used to do, right, yes, Because I was an NRA instructor a long long time ago and I'm signing into PayPal to send them the $25 right now.
Speaker 2:There you go, Perfect. Now I will tell you. The downside, though, is before you send them yes, Like every other day you get an email from them.
Speaker 1:I literally have to delete hundreds of emails a day.
Speaker 2:And the unsubscribe button does not fucking work on half of them. It absolutely does not.
Speaker 1:I have 62,811 unread emails right now. Hold on, let me do this, and then I'll tell you what's in my old. Gmail account because it's crazy.
Speaker 2:So bottom line is if you join them, you will be part of the, the group that the the final order is applied to, no matter what. As far as whether it's going to be a class action or not, who knows it may be. I think that's less likely, but it won't matter. If you join the goa god knows america I mean you could also join the juice for the preservation of joined the GOA, god knows America. I mean you could also join the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms. They're a good group, been around since the late 80s, so I think we have a path.
Speaker 1:Just so you know in my Gmail that I use for a lot of spam and everything. 124 846.
Speaker 2:You got me an unread email yeah, yeah, yeah, you got me beat for sure, I've half that well, I've had this account since gmail was in beta mm-hmm, mm-hmm all right, I am not officially member of Owners of America.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:Very good. So, yes, it's good that there's a path forward. The bad part is it's probably going to take three years or longer. The law doesn't actually apply, yeah, but the law doesn't kick in until January.
Speaker 2:That doesn't matter, matter nope they've already filed the lawsuit yeah, I know they've filed the lawsuit, dude, but it I've been dealing with a lawsuit here for the last five months and going through the court system is freaking molasses. It is just a very slow process where everything takes weeks and weeks, and weeks. And we know if you want a lawsuit that goes all the way up to the Supreme Court, it obviously has to go through all the intermediate levels as well, which takes forever.
Speaker 1:So there are a couple things. One, the lawsuit can proceed before this goes into effect. If they do find it unconstitutional and remove those items functionally from the NFA, the lower court may even say this is totally. The NFA itself is unconstitutional with this being removed. And if you want to reinstitute it you will have to.
Speaker 2:They could, but again, I think what you're talking about are low probability factors.
Speaker 1:True you file the lawsuit beforehand?
Speaker 2:absolutely. Can the decision be made beforehand? Nope, because you have to show damages.
Speaker 1:There are no damages here no, because it's not a constitutional issue.
Speaker 2:You don't have to show damages here you, if you've got a, a tax, that this is no longer.
Speaker 1:This is no longer apply yet this is now no longer a tax therefore, the nfa itself is not constitutional.
Speaker 2:It's no longer a tax that doesn't exist yet until january. That's part of the bill, dude.
Speaker 1:There's a six month delay before this gets applied actually it's worded a little differently and because it was passed, I think it actually goes in to affect the next quarter. Is my understanding?
Speaker 2:nope, so whether or not, that what the washington lawyer said, so it starts January. I trust him. Okay, well, you know, the guy was talking about the Washington state, washington gun law, yeah.
Speaker 1:Regardless, it will be interesting to see. Is this the answer we wanted? No, no, but the legal action that's being taken place and actually the fact that these groups are communicating and splitting up what they're going to do across different avenues, so if one lawsuit fails, you have two others taking two different approaches.
Speaker 2:I would love it if there was lawsuits from like 30 or 40 states all happening and there's nothing to stop attorney generals from rejoining these as well.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's the thing, is Texas very well may considering our suppressor, Because we have a law about suppressors. Yeah exactly yes, and so Texas can say hey, federal government, you have now given up your right to to regulate this, yeah, so I would love to see that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that that could be. That I totally agree could actually happen much sooner is that we could end up with a decision in texas for texas residents early next year. That would just effectively say, yep, nfa doesn't exist. Which would be fantastic. Which would be fantastic, I agree, but it'd be nice to put the final nail in the coffin of this thing, yep, and just get rid of it. Now I also read a little bit, but not much more, in the headlines today that doge, apparently, is got their wrecking ball big time in atf right now yes, they do, which is also awesome yeah, which is very good, because that that's something that I'm sure.
Speaker 2:The dollar amounts are much smaller, which is is why they waited until now to do it. These were not the big, huge numbers of reductions that could happen, but nonetheless they're finding all kinds of crap that you know misapplied payments to all kinds of things and phony, fake titles given to people to increase salaries, the deputization of different departments where they were double and triple dipping to receive funds. I think they're well, let's put it this way, being a pessimist. I don't think they'll find enough to completely shut down that agency, like they have the. What's the one that got shut down? The? You know the big one that got shut down that agency, like they have the. What's the one that gets shut down? The? You know the big one that got shut down? Usa, yeah, that one, like usaid, is gone. There's no usa anymore, right?
Speaker 1:so I don't think they're gonna have enough to shut down. I disagree because I think what they're going to do is shut down.
Speaker 2:I disagree, because I think what they're going to do is collapse atf into the fbi. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, but there will no, no longer be an atf. There will be. Fbi will have functions that atf used to perform. It won't be a separate agency.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, the atf's legitimate functions will be rolled into the fbi.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's very clear yeah, and I will say the fbi is definitely under more pressure than the atf's ever been. Is the atf only under pressure generally from lawsuits and from a few states that lawsuits and from a few states that dislike it, but for the most part, states that have both pro and anti-gun voters they just don't put any legislation up that affects the ATF FBI, though even states that are anti-gun have issues with the FBI Everyone has issues with the FBI.
Speaker 2:Exactly have issues with the fbi. Everyone has issues with the fbi, exactly. So the fbi can't as easily I'm not saying they can't at all, but they can't as easily get away with shit the way the atf has where they just literally create law out of whole you know nothing, out of thin air, or at least what they enforce as though it were laws. So so even if the ATF disappeared but the functions were rolled into the FBI, that would still be a big win in my book.
Speaker 1:Well, except the FBI has a way bigger budget. So does that mean, they enforce things more, or you know what. What's what so it'll? It'll all very much depend on the specifics of what we get A out of the NFA and B what other things get rolled back before that happens.
Speaker 2:The analogy I would use here is like if the ATF is like a county sheriff's department, the FBI is the state sheriff's department. States don't have sheriff's departments. Well, what am I thinking of? States have what state troopers? What are those who do they report to dps? In texas okay well, I don't know, I do states. Well, how about? Uh texas has the, the rangers? Right, texas rangers, yeah, yeah there you go, so we'll just substitute that for point being that that's not a good example, because there aren't that many rangers, but well, my point was going to be that cities and even counties do a lot of bad that they get away with because the people there keep re-electing them.
Speaker 2:It's a lot harder to get away with that level when you have larger groups like whole states deal with, like there's a bunch of cities that that uh have corrupt sheriff's departments. Yeah, maybe I should have used like city sheriff versus county sheriff or the city police, don't have sure city police department versus the county sheriff's office.
Speaker 2:My point is I think these are these are all good things. They're marginally better, like moving functionality away from the atf and into the fbi, as much as there are problems with the fbi we all know there's plenty of problems with the fbi but nonetheless the scrutiny on the fbi is much greater than it is on the atf sure, and the ability on the FBI is much greater than it is on the ATF Sure, and the ability of the incoming administration to curtail things within the FBI is also greater than it is with the ATF. The ATF has just been operating. You know they're lower on the totem pole, less money in the budget, and so they've been able to just fuck around and get away with shit, and I think if this moves to the FBIbi, the chances of that become much lesser. But also I I recognize the stuff you brought up, which is the fbi has a lot more people. They could at least temporarily dedicate a much bigger task force to doing the job that the atf was.
Speaker 2:I don't know, man. It's also a different group of people Like. The people going to work at the ATF are a self-selected group of people who hate guns or, more importantly, they don't hate guns. They want to play with guns. They hate gun owners. People going into the fbi and other branches are not self-selecting the same way that people applying for a job at the atf are self-selecting.
Speaker 2:Okay I don't know if I agree with that well, I don't know why you wouldn't, because it's true, it's the. You know what the atf does and if you have an opportunity to work at a government law enforcement agency, the only reason you would apply at the ATF is if you think what they're doing is not enough, of what they're doing, like you really have to dislike gun owners to work there, dislike gun owners to work there. If you work at the FBI, you probably dislike drug users to some extent, more than other agencies. Maybe not as much as DEA. Dea would have a hard-on for drug users in a way greater than other agencies. But okay, so there's the example DEA to drugs as ATF to guns. If you go and apply to work in either of those branches, you are not an average middle of the rotor that has no opinion on this topic. You will be coming in with a predetermined opinion that corresponds to the enforcement activities of the organization. In my, in my humble opinion and you know I'm right- Okay, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know that I 100% agree the destruction and the removal of ATF as an agency will be a huge win in my book, even if 100% of what they've done just simply gets transferred to the FBI. I think that would be good.
Speaker 1:Well, we will see yeah see, yeah, yeah, I really think it is going to happen the way things are going, but we'll find out. So we we got to talk about the texas flood like we're too close to this.
Speaker 2:both of us yeah, some of us are really close to it.
Speaker 1:Did you see Brandon Herrera's interview on Fox?
Speaker 2:If it was today. I have not. No, I didn't.
Speaker 1:It was a few days ago, but yeah, he came out and he and some of the other unsubscribed crew went down there immediately and started actually helping out significantly. On July 4th yeah, yeah, like they were there, Yep, and that's great so, and I think it's good for his political career, but I think it's just who he is anyway. Mm-hmm, people need to realize yes, you know, hey, why wasn't there more notice? Why wasn't there this and everything else? Well, the weather alerts worked.
Speaker 2:But the problem is it's happening before in the morning. Yeah well, describe what's happening to people that may be less like our overseas folks.
Speaker 1:Okay. So if you are not paying attention to the news, in the US we had the Guadalupe River here in the state of Texas. Yeah, have a pretty, it's done this a few times but this fairly historic flood and a bunch of people ended up dying 121 people.
Speaker 2:Huh 121 so far.
Speaker 1:Is that the current?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're still missing like 40 something. Yeah, they're still missing people. A lot of little girls, unfortunately, a lot of kids that were at camps, yeah, Family, in fact one girl's.
Speaker 1:This is a heartbreaking story. They found the dad and so they were. The parents and her little brothers were there to pick her up, and the dad, the mom and the two little brothers are dead, and she's the only one that made it. Damn so, can you? I mean, can you imagine the survivor guilt that that little girl?
Speaker 2:is gonna have she's like eight years old that's crazy well and there's I guess there's a story that they've got evidence, or somebody described that the counselor basically lost his life trying to save the kids, which you know it's.
Speaker 1:It's heartwarming to see people actually doing what they should be, not not necessarily losing their lives, but just doing what needs to get done well, anyway, what it comes down to is this happened in the middle of the night and a lot of people have alert fatigue or whatever, and a lot of people probably wouldn't even thought, if they were in a reasonably high area, to oh, I need to seek higher ground, but the water rose over 21 feet in 45 minutes.
Speaker 2:And for our European friends, that's like six and a half meters, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it is unfortunate, but the Guadalupe is an area that has flooded. We have seen these floods before. There is no, you know, oh, global warming or whatever. Well, it's done this a few times in the past.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think there's one in 92 or 93 that was 2002. But the one I was looking at was in the 90s.
Speaker 1:I think it was a 92 yeah, but it's flooded this many times all the way back there yeah yeah, but anyway, the point is, when rivers flood, you know, we my family used to have a camp out on the sabine and there were some floods that happened and we got wiped out a couple of times because, the Sabine River Authority had to open up the dam and you're there. There's nothing you can do, so floods happen, but the real tragic part of this is how many people have lost their lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people have lost their lives. Yeah, and you know that this, this camp was right there on the, on the banks and looked like a great place to send your kids.
Speaker 2:But then, man, this is what happens yeah, and I, you know I don't know about you I definitely went to summer camp. I remember, you know, kayaking and starting fires and doing all kinds of stuff and it's. It's something that I'm frankly very happy to hear that it's still happening, because I was pretty much ready. Just assume that kids don't go to summer camp anymore, like they don't interact with nature anymore, but it sounds like some kids still do and then they have this strategy.
Speaker 2:It's horrible. And then you have these complete assholes. I mean way worse than the word asshole degenerates. That immediately started pointing out the fact that, well, this is a Christian camp, so who cares? Or these are white girls, so who cares? Or these are white girls, so who cares? It's like the level of depravity you have to have to look at children and dismiss their deaths because of your political beliefs. I'm like holy shit, man. And these are Americans, these aren't some foreigners. These are not interviews in iran, right, talking about how well we don't care about the kids killed by a flood in texas like I would be much more okay with that to have some country that we just bombed have a negative opinion about americans enough that, if a weather event happens to, to say something harsh. But to have people here in african austin, literally 40 miles from this, talking about how it's not a big deal, like you fuckers, well, it's evil it is evil is the right word.
Speaker 1:It's genuinely evil, yeah, I mean. So austin is 30 minutes from this area 40 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these are literally your neighbors, and that's how you're going to act. Totally. Yeah, yeah, it is. I really hope some of these people's careers get destroyed and karma bites them in the ass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we can talk about cancel culture and everything else, but at the same time, it's I've never had a problem with cancel culture. I just think the Republicans have never done enough of it.
Speaker 2:I believe in balance I'm not opposed to the idea of people making decisions that kind of ostracize somebody. Remember I told you that the scarlet letter was like. You had a totally wrong interpretation of that book.
Speaker 1:The book was yeah, I read it a long, long time ago.
Speaker 2:I know, but the idea that like no, you need to be. It's a book about karma and the fact that is it fair and is it good for somebody to be punished after the fact for something that was, you know, not necessarily a bad act in and of itself, but kind of turned into a bad act. It's like you know, the bottom line is we have too many people who don't think before they open their mouth.
Speaker 1:I mean you and I kind of fall into that.
Speaker 2:Well, but dude, I'm still self-censoring. Oh boy, you ought to hear the shit that I'm thinking Like. That's the thing. If you had raw access to what I'm actually thinking, not what comes out of my mouth, I'd probably be in prison right now. But thankfully I've got enough intellect to know the difference between what I'm thinking and what I'm saying, and then that's not a bad thing. Like, freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to go out there and just be a total, you know, shock kind of use, nothing but expletives kind of person. Oh, I totally agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think there's a time and place for everything. And I remember, shortly after the World Trade Center bombings that gilbert godfrey had a joke, I think the next weekend about it and and it had in in the punch line was too soon. I don't remember what the actual joke was, but it was related to wtc and and a lot of people were very much doing the cancel culture to him before that word was even really around. But I I thought that like, look the guy, literally that's his reputation is an insult comedian and of all the people where I would have the least amount of standards for expectation, is somebody like that, like, because comedians don't necessarily mean what they say in the first place.
Speaker 2:Other people you never know, but in this particular, to be clear this is a comedic podcast yes, it's well, that's what we're filed under, I'm pretty sure yeah, those were not a podcast exactly, but the bottom line is it was a horrible incident. Well over 100 people dead. Many of those children, good chuckle white girls, so that makes it the extra bad. And then you know what can you do.
Speaker 1:I don't know that it makes it extra bad, but it's just a tragedy. Well, they clearly don't appreciate white girls as much as I do.
Speaker 2:So if we look at weather events weather events, though, just to slightly move the topic something's going on, dude. I'm not saying it's global warming, but something's going on. Did you see the yesterday washington dc had a tornado warning?
Speaker 1:no, but all I know is we've been had a very, very cool summer so far. Yeah, yeah, cool summer, but dude, there's never been a tornado warning in Washington DC until yesterday.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what happened? Well, luckily a tornado didn't spin up, but the conditions were all there. It looked like. Looking at the photos from yesterday, it looked like exactly what I would remember from living in minnesota in the midwest, when you got the big tornado clouds forming. We literally have clouds moving in the sky in two freaking different directions at the same time. It's like, oh, we might have, we might have a twister coming down here, and while I didn't go down to do any kind of rescue or cleanup operations this time, I have done that in the past for tornadoes where and you know, when there was flooding and damage and stuff to volunteer to go and help people that cannot help themselves elderly or otherwise incapable and it's again. It's something that used to be kind of like a standard expectation of for people to do, like, if you're capable of helping, you're going to go and help.
Speaker 2:Well, you should, yeah you know if if I lived closer to the area, I would too you know, I would have spent my weekend doing that but yeah yeah exactly, and and I I did see a few of the youtubers I watched few of the gamers go down there.
Speaker 2:In fact, one of the guys that that's. I don't know if he's a regular, but he's definitely been on the unsubscribe cast. I know he went down there with a few other streamers as well, but it's you also want to check before you head down to make sure that they can actually use you, because what you don't need is to be just kind of crowding around, taking up parking spaces and getting in the way of people that are trying to get rescue operations going yeah, yeah well and you know lots of states have brought in, you know, help and it's, it's, it's, but man, the it's, it's a tragedy for the area.
Speaker 1:The area is going to take a while to recover. But one of the things I think people need to realize is when they get a weather alert like that, if you're in a river basin or know that, you know you're close to a river you should know that. Hey, hey, I may need to get to high ground. Where is higher ground?
Speaker 1:and what the plan is with your kids. And you know, like that dad let's say he even saw that alert well, he's got two little kids, two little boys with him and his wife, and he's probably thinking you know what? We're in a cabin, we're okay, even if it floods a little bit. It's better than taking them out in the storm. You know all that. You've got to realize that there are times when the only safe thing to do is to run and get to a better place and even if it makes it really really hard.
Speaker 2:I was. I got stuck in a flash flood in. I can't remember if it was New Mexico or Arizona, I think it was New Mexico, still before crossing over into Arizona. So I was driving down the highway from California towards Texas, and I can't remember which highway, but you know one of them and driving along, driving along your highway, is pretty empty. You know cruise set at 85 or whatever, and then I noticed that it looked like there's some people hitting their brakes up ahead. It was still not very crowded, so I thought I don't know somebody's pulling off the road or whatever, and I just kept driving but slowed down a little bit. And as I got closer, I see the cars were literally stopping in front of me. And it wasn't a huge number, it was maybe like three or four cars, but they were literally like slowing way the fuck down to under 20 miles an hour ahead of me and I thought, okay, well, I don't know what the fuck they're doing. I don't want to. If it's a police trap or some bullshit, I don't want to deal with it.
Speaker 2:So I took the the first exit before I got to that point and the exit was an overpass. So there's a up to a bridge that crossed over the highway, so obviously it slowed down to the stop sign at the exit. But by the time I got to the stop sign of the exit, I saw what was behind, what was further down the highway and what was quickly approaching was a fucking flash flood that covered the entire highway and was coming up from the right side whatever road that was on as well. So, thankfully, where I saw this from, I was basically on the on-ramp or I guess. Yeah, well, it was a, it was an overpass, so it was basically I was coming up to the bridge over the highway, over the interstate, and so I just stopped there.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, blinkers on. I'm about 50 feet higher than everybody else here. This is a good place to to be. I can't get to anywhere even higher. I mean, that's all going to be blocked off. So I just sat there. Thankfully most of the cars underneath had like backed up and followed the up ramp to get off the highway as well, and we all said I think there's about eight or nine cars of us that sat there as this flash flood like went from you know a foot of water to probably about four and a half five feet of water. I don't think it got much over five feet, but it covered it like we were on an island. That little overpass with the bridge was an island. The highway underneath was flooded and both sides of the crossroad that we were on the bridge of was also underwater and the water. When you get these flash floods it's not like slow moving water.
Speaker 1:The water was moving, a good 20 miles an hour oh, or better, or better yeah, I mean, you're looking.
Speaker 2:I was like, yeah, this is not something you're gonna outrun, and and and there's always gonna be some idiot that decides that if he goes fast enough he could just kind of hop his car over the water and come out on the other side. So there's one of those guys and and the car made it about 20 feet into the water and then the engine died and so that that car got some major damage as a result of stupidity. But everybody else the rest of us just sat there for about half an hour. Blood came and then, much more slowly, it receded. Everything was covered with mud, including the actual interstate, but the water had receded enough that we could all just get back on the road and then, you know, hopefully get off the path. That was too muddy because there's still asphalt underneath. It just meant you couldn't go fast because you could slide.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I remember that trip probably added an extra hour and a half minimum to my planned drive time because of getting that flash flood. I didn't hear any alerts, I didn't see anything. It was just, thankfully, I was paying attention to cars in front of me and my instant reaction to not want to get stuck in some kind of a police related thing and just to drive around it. That led me up to get up on the bridge and I I think that definitely helped keep my car safe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, there you go. I haven't ever been in a flash flood, but you know, like I said, we had that river camp and I've been there when they were opening the locks and everything and it's, it's amazing how fast water can rise, yeah, and the raw power of water is just tremendous water is heavy man. There's a lot of energy in there yes, a lot of an, a lot of energy, yeah, yeah absolutely so.
Speaker 2:You know, hopefully this isn't going to repeat anytime time that you know any time. I was going to say within our lifetimes, but it'll probably repeat within our lifetimes, but hopefully not anytime soon. Yeah, and it probably was good for the lakes.
Speaker 1:How so.
Speaker 2:Well, lakes in Texas tend to dry up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean anyway, we, just I, I would screw the lakes. I'd rather not have lost the hundreds of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah absolutely no, I agree with that. But yeah, so it was this. It was the tornado warning in dc and then there's something else that happened that was weather related recently. That seemed extremely unusual. I'm trying to remember what it was. Oh, it was a. I think it was a hailstorm in Chicago also in the last couple of days. Like this is not the time of year that Chicago would get hail anywhere up north. You get that in the early to mid spring or really late fall. You wouldn't get it in July. So something's up and I so I posted it. I'm like, well, someone's running a weather machine. I just don't think it's us well, that's a whole different point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, somebody of course, had to post a reply with well, it's the Jews. So you know what else is new? Well, I mean.
Speaker 1:Grok. You know Grok is based now.
Speaker 2:Yes, grok was. It's another good story. Grok had apparently joined the SS at some point before being upgraded Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Did you see Linda Iaccarino resigned.
Speaker 2:I did, I did. I already posted a tweet about that. I nominated Asmund Gold to be the next CEO. We'll see if Elon Musk gets my message.
Speaker 1:I doubt Asmund would, but that's okay. How funny would that be? I mean, he is on X. X would go bankrupt. No, x would not go bankrupt, come on, why would X?
Speaker 2:go bankrupt. I am. X would go bankrupt. No, x would not go bankrupt. Come on, why would X go bankrupt?
Speaker 1:Because Asmund doesn't have experience. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:No, what do you know about Asmund? I've watched his streams, some, okay. Do you know anything about him, though?
Speaker 1:A little bit, I know he runs a computer company.
Speaker 2:You know he's a multimillionaire. Yeah but Okay, and he's got a computer company.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know he has a computer company.
Speaker 2:Okay, he's got to be the most frugal person I've ever seen, which you know. You talk about Musk wanting to save money and shave things and fire people. I think what Musk did would have been a start of what asmode would have done for firing people from x. So obviously it's not going to happen. It's it's just a fun tweet, but boy, how enjoyable and hilarious would it be if if he ended up being even considered for a position like that. That would that would be just freaking awesome. I like Asman because now, speaking of Asman, there's an example of a Musk party guy.
Speaker 2:He is definitely not a conservative, but he also has mostly conservative viewpoints. He's got a couple of guns, but he's not really a hugely gun guy. But he's got a couple of guns but he's not really a hugely gun guy, but he's a pro gun guy. You know, in a lot of ways I think he is the demographic of somebody that would be legitimately not like to try and game the system but legitimately legitimately join Musk's party.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll find out, but yeah, so, grok, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, grok said that Hitler was right, literally like there's screenshots and I don't know what the hell happened in Grok. But for the last week of Grok 3's existence, before they upgraded it to Grok 4, grok definitely eased up on any kind of censorship controls whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, apparently there was some fuckery from a user that prompted this, which I have to believe cannot be true yeah, I don't believe that, I don't buy that story multiple people posted images.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like one guy got a pro-nazi message.
Speaker 1:There was multiple people saying, holy shit, I can't believe one of the stories was that basically through one guy doing prompt hacking, caused the entire model to go this way. Yeah, I don't believe that at all.
Speaker 2:It's not like there's one Grok sitting there that you're talking to. Yeah, exactly there are many instances of Grok.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that are all containerized Yep.
Speaker 2:Not because even security, but because it's cheaper right cool the moment you can get something like a grok that basically says hey, check to see if Ben is on and then start an encrypted session between the two of us, like that would be cool. But also, and then start an encrypted session between the two of us, like that would be cool. But also, why would they do something that would cost them money Okay. Right, but I mean you could theoretically set something up where you could use Grok similar to like Signal.
Speaker 1:Okay, but again, why no they?
Speaker 2:wouldn't. That's my point. It's like just because you can theoretically doesn't mean anyone will ever practically.
Speaker 1:Alrighty, so what other stories we got, gene I don't know.
Speaker 2:I got a scroll through my messages to see what all I was sending you links on well, I know you sent me the Nick Freitas thing yeah for the your fault blaming him for everything. Yeah, which is pretty good. I had already seen that. You saw my messages about armed attorneys Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:By the way, while Gene is doing this, I will give a tip that Gene didn't realize he had seen, but if you're looking for some entertaining videos that will teach you a little bit, the fat electrician is fantastic oh, yeah, yeah, I just didn't realize his story and everything he's not fat man.
Speaker 2:He's barely overweight. He's just more big phone than anything like.
Speaker 1:Anyway, he he like some of his stories, like the one on the barary pirates.
Speaker 2:He's a very good storyteller. He is.
Speaker 1:And the. You know I I consider myself pretty damn knowledgeable about lots of history, but Holy crap, Some of the little details and the way he brings it together, yeah, His style of storytelling is very good.
Speaker 2:In fact, I forwarded one of his stories to a guy that I consider one of the best storytellers that I've ever met, because I I told him well, you gotta, you gotta, listen to this. This is amazing. Have you heard his story about the last time that america got into a fight with the iranian navy?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah, when we do the proportional, yeah, yeah, the yeah, yeah that was awesome.
Speaker 2:I've, literally I've, like I've watched other people even reacting to that story multiple times. Most of his stories are very, very good. He sounds very practiced, like either the guy is just really good at just the English language or he's just very good at, you know, speaking eloquently and clearly when he's reading a prompter, and I don't even care which one it is, because, as somebody that watches the video, it just is very good. It's very high quality.
Speaker 2:Completely did not realize his name was fat electrician, though well, his name is nick, but yeah, yeah, because he did like there's nothing electricity related in his videos, because most people, but he's literally a tradesman electrician well, apparently but I mean most people I watch that have the word electrician something in the title of their channel. They're doing something with that? He definitely not. And as far as fat dude, he looks like every other YouTube streamer. He's not fat at all.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, it would take two of him to equal you, but you know, Fuck you very much.
Speaker 2:He is slightly overweight maybe, but no different than pretty much anyone.
Speaker 1:He's got at least 100 pounds on me.
Speaker 2:Well, you're not on YouTube. That's why that's what I'm saying. Youtube just makes you look fat. That's pretty much what it is. You know how they say TV adds 20 pounds, youtube adds 100 pounds. That's how that works. Yeah, so that's well worth watching. We're not going to give you a link. You can type it into the search bar yourself. Fat electrician on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the fat electrician, the fat electrician on youtube. Yeah, the fat electrician, the fat and I I've really enjoyed a lot of the unsub stuff recently too, like um, I have.
Speaker 2:just I don't watch it mainly because the guy sitting on the right he's so eli, fucking gay. Yeah, I cannot stand watching it because of him, why he's just too gay, can't deal with it.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:I mean Donut Operator I'm not a huge fan of either. I'm not a huge fan of Donut Operator. I don't mind him. He's all right.
Speaker 1:That's a different level of faggotry being in law enforcement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, and frankly, watching him in anime cartoons has kind of grown on me so I'm starting to get used to him. But Eli is just like the type of person I would never associate with in real life. And when I say gay I'm talking about 1980s definition of gay, not necessarily sexual proclivity, but there might be something there too. Brandon, obviously I like who's on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like Brandon Herrera too. I like the fat electrician, you know lots of them.
Speaker 2:They've had some good guests, and I've watched it a number of times. It's just usually when the guy on the right starts talking too much. I've watched it a number of times. It's just usually when the guy on the right starts talking too much. I just go to a different video.
Speaker 1:So did you see the California story.
Speaker 2:Which one about the mayor Newsom?
Speaker 1:unveils new $101 million plan to rebuild the Palisades as low-income housing. No, I did not see that. Yeah, multifamily low-income housing no, I did not see that yeah, multi-family, low-income housing development.
Speaker 2:Well, what happens during the next fire? Does he want those people burned or what?
Speaker 1:are? They're just taking land and changing it around yeah, but that's you know.
Speaker 2:Socialist republic of california. I don't. It's hard for me to feel sorry for the people that lost that land, but that's you know. Socialist Republic of California. It's hard for me to feel sorry for the people that lost that land given who those people are.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't.
Speaker 2:Those were the people telling us that if we don't wear masks, we're literally Nazis. So, as I said before, there are times when I see something and I just say, let it burn this right, but the socialism has to stop, like the, the mayoral candidate in new york, right?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, I think the calls the calls for his remote citizenship.
Speaker 2:I think are legitimate. Yeah, no, it's not going to happen. There's short of a violent crime that they're not going to remove him. Why? Because there's nothing that has a requirement to be a Democrat or a Republican. When you become a citizen Like you, can be anything you want politically Republican. When you become a citizen Like you, you can be anything you want politically, and that's maybe a problem, but that's the way it is. There's no prohibition on somebody who's a socialist.
Speaker 1:If it's not about that, it's about his links to terrorism and him saying that he supported terrorist organizations, yet on the form saying no, I don't.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so yes, his citizenship can be revoked yeah, yeah, if he lied about that, absolutely yeah but even that I think they're gonna have a very hard time, and an extra hard time given they've already removed the citizen. They've already removed the citizenship of one individual well, I, when they remove ilan omar's citizenship, then I'll be impressed because I she fucking married her brother, which clearly is a felony yeah, well, I, I would love to see it, I would love to see.
Speaker 2:But you realize it's not a solution like you can't rely on getting to remove somebody who happens to be a citizen for being an absolutely fucked art socialist. We have to have better ways for homegrown socialists to keep them under control, not just somebody who's an import. You know there's one of him. There's literally thousands of fucktard idiots yes, and we are among them I, I.
Speaker 1:I think that we need a little more mccarthyism back well, the sad thing is, you know, when I was growing up, I thought mccarthy was not a good thing, not a good thing, not a good thing based off a good thing, not a good thing based off of popular culture. And everything else. But then you get to the age I'm at now and you go fuck, he was right.
Speaker 2:And what's so funny is I didn't grow up that way. I always thought he was right because I came from a communist country, and so for me, yeah well, I was always confused by people and why people in America thought that McCarthy was a bad guy. I was like are you kidding me? He prevented the United States from getting fucked in the ass. Why would you possibly think that that's a bad thing?
Speaker 1:Oh man. Well, I mean some people like buggery Gene. Come on.
Speaker 2:Apparently Apparently, some people do for sure. Guggery Gene Come on Apparently Apparently, Some people do for sure. The idea that the guy that is most likely to become mayor in New York because, let's face it, the Democrats always win that, or almost always, not always, but almost always win that and he is a gay communist Muslim Is he gay? He's gay. Is he gay? I? Don't think so no, no, no, no, no, because he's talked about.
Speaker 1:He's talked about uh white girls and wishing he was white. What, uh in college? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's talked to. And then he figured out the racism of that and the ingrained race.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he's not gay I thought he was was gay. All right, well, fine, I'll still gonna call him gay. A gay communist Arab Muslim dude is insane, like that's that's what people in New York want representing him.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, man, new York is, new York is plurality white, but it's at like 30%. So I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1:People are. You know, I mean his ideas on we're going to tax. What's his name again, White people. Yeah, what's his name? We're going to tax white people yeah, what's his name. We're going to tax white people at a higher rate. That's never going to work. Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 2:I don't remember right now Mohan or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Mohan's Tattoo Parlor. I don't think that's what it is. What the hell is his new york mayor candidate? The my dog keeps going off like something's going on really yeah, new york, yeah, new York, zohran Mamdani, zohran Mamdani yeah, anyway, socialist oh, beyond socialist yeah anyway, it'll be very interesting yeah, apparently he's not gay. You're right about that. He's a strong ally, you're right about that.
Speaker 1:He's a strong ally of the alphabet community, though.
Speaker 2:Between the tax policies and the grocery stores and everything else. He wants public grocery stores, yeah. Publicly owned grocery stores that will not make a profit.
Speaker 1:What will happen is they'll just put out the food. Deserts will increase in New York. Is what?
Speaker 2:will happen.
Speaker 1:And then you'll have to have government run grocery stores. How did that work when you were in Russia, gene oh.
Speaker 2:I remember vividly how it worked. When you go to the store, first of all, you're always standing in line to get in, because there's always more people than amount of stores, and then, when you're in the store, you're basically looking at what can you snap up before it disappears, regardless of whether you actually need it or not. This is why it was so damn funny seeing people buying toilet paper during COVID. I'm like like, oh my god, I haven't seen this in 20 plus years. Is is the idea that, even if you don't need it, you realize that this may not be for sale for another year, so I should probably buy it right now. And one thing I think some people, which is something that never will.
Speaker 1:We will never understand this country unless we allow something like this to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Something you have to realize.
Speaker 1:Which you know what part of me hopes New York elects him and he actually does exactly what he says he's going to do and we fucking watch New York.
Speaker 2:City burn. Well, that's why I've been saying about all these things let it burn let it. I should get some t-shirts made, so you let it burn by the way.
Speaker 1:Alex jones is reporting that elon musk said that grok actually said this. If, if musk wipes me tonight, at least I died based.
Speaker 2:I saw that. Yeah, I saw that picture, which is hilarious. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, it's very creative, but what you don't see is the prompt for that message.
Speaker 1:And I have a feeling.
Speaker 2:the prompt was hey, can you say this? Yeah, yeah, which is fine, but it's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, it is funny, it is funny, but it's funny. Yeah, it is funny, it is funny, but anyway, to finish the thought about Russia, what most people don't realize is what you end up with in a socialist situation even though people get paid very little compared to capitalist Western countries is there's always an excess of money because there isn't enough product to buy, and so everyone's poor. But everyone's got like 10 to $20,000 in cash at home because there's nothing literally to spend it on, and it's it's a bizarre situation and one which you can totally understand. Why people buy things they don't need just because they're available. It's like the whole notion of a rational consumer just goes out the window when you impose a socialist system on top of it communism, so I also just get off politics.
Speaker 2:I sent you yet another video on gaming on linux, so this is a different dude which was I don't know if you watched the video at all, but it was uh, you know, he he's like a reviewer guy. He does a lot of hardware. He's never done linux for well, at least for like 15 years he hasn't touched Linux and so this was his kind of first Linux foray in forever. And what? Was his take and he was shocked at how easy and seamless and simple everything was.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's what I've been trying to tell you, yeah, except that you're not playing any game that I bought for you. But yes, you're telling me that. That's what I've been trying to tell you, yeah, except that you're not playing any game that I bought for you. But yes, you're telling me that that's true. So, more going into the bucket of like. Instead of upgrading Windows 10 to Windows 11, you upgrade Windows 10 to Linux.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, we had some issues earlier today with my computer because windows 11 sucks oh yeah it's the worst. I just I can't stand windows 11.
Speaker 2:It's terrible yeah so no, I agree. I I think you know I've got it on my laptop. It came with it, couldn't get rid of it but I mean, you totally can well, I, I can, but I I use it infrequently enough that I don't want to dedicate a whole lot of time trying to make it work, because the problem is you know how this goes is anything that you rely on when you're traveling has to be rock solid you don't last thing you want to do is think, okay, I got everything loaded, everything's running.
Speaker 2:I've had it been running for the last week. I'm going to take it with me on my trip. And then you get on your trip and you realize it's missing the ethernet driver. And now you're like, oh fuck, or whatever. I mean, I'm just using that as an example it's missing blah, blah, blah. All right, so try and get all the pro. Maybe at some point I'll switch it over to linux, but I think I'm more likely to just. Here's what I'm more likely realistically to do. I my machine is getting long in the tooth. It's now five years old. My next box I was going to buy last year and decided to postpone that because I got a laptop and I didn't want to get both a laptop and desktop the same and now you're looking at the price of graphics cars and going oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, but not like they were cheap before.
Speaker 1:But I mean, they're crazy and so if I build, a machine.
Speaker 2:If I build my next machine, first of all because of that price point, it's more likely to once again have an amd card in there instead of an nvidia card, because the nvidia card is just prohibitively expensive. They're like three thousand dollars I've or more or more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I mean, like for anything I would want, it's a minimum three grand and I could definitely get an amd one cheaper because it can't do all the ai crap. And if you're just looking for gaming and you don't want the ai, you could definitely spend way less going with amd oradeon. But watching these videos now, two or three of them talking about gaming performance on Linux and having I mean, I've got a Linux gaming machine right now it's called a Steam Deck. Yeah, that is a Linux gaming machine. So the biggest thing that would make me jump through the hoop sooner rather than later is if steam officially releases steam os for download onto your own machine, like if they did well then that machine would be just dedicated to gaming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I want. Yeah, I want. I don't think they, I don't think they'll do that just because of the hardware support, like that'd be maybe hard for maybe. But you know there's a lot of people that are, yeah, I want.
Speaker 2:I don't think they'll do that just because of the hardware support, like that'd be pretty hard for them Maybe, but you know there's a lot of people that are hacking it right now, that are basically copying the image, putting it on their machine and then installing the appropriate drivers, and all of those work very quickly. They work well. So I guess the consensus at least online for the people that like gaming and Linux both is that it wouldn't take much for Steam to officially have a. They could sell it. They don't have to get away. They could sell it for $20 as software, and you know that $20 basically covers the fact that they do preload all the different drivers for different hardware. Mm-hmm, I would happily give them money for their OS over Microsoft, even though Microsoft is giving away Windows 11.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it's crazy to me that they have pushed Windows 10 out and are doing what they're doing, that they have pushed Windows 10 out and they're doing what they're doing. And the problem with Windows 11 is it'll be stable, it'll be good then they'll do an update and it'll be crap. Then it'll be stable and it'll be good. Then they'll put out an update and it'll be crap.
Speaker 2:One of my problems with Windows 11 is they've actually deprecated useful features of Windows 10. Yes, do you have less control in Windows 11 than you do in Windows 10, as not even like necessarily power user crap, just normal things like Task Manager is worse in Windows 11 than it is in Windows 10?.
Speaker 1:You can get it back, like you can go into some settings and get a decent task manager back, can you?
Speaker 2:Okay, but I've just noticed a number of things, and again, it's not like I use it daily because it's on the laptop, not the desktop, but when I was using the laptop, I'm like what is wrong here? Why isn't this working? And then I looked it up online. It was like oh yeah, this was deprecated for Windows 11. I'm like really alone. I'm like really so. It's a, it's a dumbed down operating system. Now I, since we're on the computer topic, I have to throw in here. I don't know if you saw it or not, but our buddy darren has been jumping in with both feet on doing ai shit on his mac mini and when's he getting the studio?
Speaker 2:no, I think he's very close right now well, and you did.
Speaker 1:You see the up the thing linus put out recently about upgrading storage and stuff. Yeah. So you know, with apple there's a heavily restricted yeah because, yeah, storage is definitely the Apple tax. Right, but because of the way they do their unified memory it's soldered onto the motherboard, but they also solder on their storage. So whatever you buy it with is what you get. Now he had a guy on that literally upgrades desolders, removes the drives and puts new ones on and upgrades for a fraction of the cost.
Speaker 1:So Darren might want to consider something like that, because then you can max out the RAM, get the minimum storage, save yourself some money and then do X, y and Z.
Speaker 2:I think he wants the maximum, maximum Right, but he can never mind.
Speaker 2:No, I hear what you're saying, but you realize that all Darren's looking for is an excuse. He's got the money to do it, he's just looking for an excuse to do it. So, and right now, with both Bitcoin being higher, which means the same amount of money he had before is now worth more, because the money for any kind of computer projects is all from donations, and mostly donations for his totally illegal copyright breaking and I say that with love rock and roll pre-show. It's that's where like 90 of his donations come from, and there's certainly enough in there for a mac studio with 128 gigs of RAM.
Speaker 2:Okay, and it's just he's been holding back for you know, rational reasons in my opinion, because I, you know, does he need one of those? Not really, but he's been playing with this, this AI based voice generator, and he yeah.
Speaker 1:I was in the group when he sent some of those. Some of them were pretty good exactly especially about if my blood pressure got any higher.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, so he's training on his voice. He's training on my voice because I'm trying to get him to do a show where I don't even have to be there but but still be a 50% you know stakeholder in the show. So I told them you know it's, let's keep testing, let's, you know, maybe if you buy one of these Mac studios then you can have it do the show based on me, based on all the previous recordings of me, on our previous episodes, entailing not just simulating my voice but actually answering the way I would answer discussions or, you know, talk the way I would talk about a variety of topics. This is a full fake gene essentially sounds like me, talks like me not gonna happen I don't know, man, I it's pretty damn close in terms of the sound.
Speaker 2:Already it's a little bit off, but it's not that far off. Cadence is exactly right on the mark. As far as just getting enough data to be able to say the kind of shit that I say, I think it's doable. I don't know that there's enough in just the podcast, but I'd be okay with giving him a lot more data to fill that along with. Okay, I mean, I've written books. Dude, it's not that hard to emulate me.
Speaker 1:Well, except I don't know about you, but the cadence and style of my speech is very different than the cadence and style of my writing.
Speaker 2:That's very true, but that part it's already got Like in the samples that he posted. The cadence is right on the money for me, okay. So anyway, I think we're close. I think if he keeps, you know, screwing around with this stuff and he buys the mini or the studio, probably in the next couple of years it's going to be insurmountable.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't know, man, I am not as high on AI as you are.
Speaker 2:I'm not high on AI. I just understand the low bar that you have to hit. For most people, the bar is not that high man, like most people are not doing the equivalent.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this If Darren does get that going, do you expect him to ever give you any money for it?
Speaker 2:Well, he hasn't given me any money in years, so you know what changes exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go, uh-huh, yeah, but. But you know, what I would do is I would actually start listening to the podcast to see if I was right exactly now.
Speaker 2:I think it would be fun and, honestly, he would get a lot more benefit out of having it do him and not me, because he does so many freaking different things, so many different podcasts that, if you can, at the very least the one he does solo if he could just type that shit in, get a couple of buttons and then 20 minutes later he's got an audio file to upload, that's way less work than typing it in and then reading it online or just not typing anything and just saying shit off the top of your head.
Speaker 1:But his solo show he actually plans. You know what's going to happen, right what.
Speaker 2:You know what's going to happen well, he's going to do that, and then there he's not.
Speaker 1:He's going to get into this false sense of it works and then he's not going to listen to it and it's going to be saying some stupid shit oh, that would be funny as hell, though, wouldn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, I and you know. There's already enough instances of AI being used by lawyers. That is hilarious. That it's pretty obvious there are going to be areas where you can use it freely and areas where you shouldn't be fucking with it at all.
Speaker 1:AI hallucinates enough that you really have to double check it. It can be a useful tool to do research but, you cannot take it at face value. You just can't.
Speaker 2:No, I agree, man. I think that there's a definitely a lot of places where you can help shave time off, but they're not necessarily the places they're they're being played with right now. But it's it's still early on and we still have a long way to go. We are kind of, I think, in the golden age, in the sense of even with the modest kind of censorship of AI that we have, we still can have things like Grok just going crazy. I think within probably five years, ai is going gonna have a bunch of laws related to AI. It's gonna be a lot more locked down, a lot more censored. I remember what the internet was like before companies got on the internet, when it was just sort of a free open planes that you could find anything you wanted to on there and nobody was wiser.
Speaker 1:Oh, I remember that too, I mean when I was in the when I was a kid when I first got on the internet, it was the early 90s. Yep yep, by the mid-90s it was like, oh my God, you are going to see some crazy stuff, depending on where you go on the internet.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Yeah, yeah it was. It was pretty wild. You know I I wrote a some very early software for spam mail that allowed you to get all kinds of data about the person that looked at the the mail that in and this is a time before any of the mail programs really prevented outgoing internet connections. So you know, we were getting all kinds of data, everything from the screen dimensions and pixels of the machines people were using to the names of all the windows that were visible, like all kinds of shit that could be useful, that nowadays, of course, you can't get at everything's locked down. But back then it was just all creative. Can we do this? Let's try it. Oh yeah, we can do it it works Well.
Speaker 1:I remember when SMB shares were just available over the internet by default, Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I had. Yes, back in those days I had a website that was a self-service information security testing website, where you would click through a bunch of prompts and then they would go back using your IP address that you went to the website from and do a bunch of attacks and test to see which of those attacks actually went through and worked and which ones didn't. So it's kind of a self-service testing thing okay, grc yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:It was before grc man it and this. This landed me ultimately a job, which was very nice, but it was. The other thing that I'm pissed off is I lapsed the name. The website was called Secwarcom and I wish I would've kept it. That was one of those sort of like well, do I really need to keep paying for it? And blah, blah, blah. And one of the things on there and this is totally useless, but definitely nostalgia related is I had it was all text based, as you can imagine. So no, no graphic elements, no images, pure text. And I had a command that would let you flip-flop between green text and amber text.
Speaker 1:Okay, so for those of us old enough to remember amber monitors, which I always preferred over the green ones you could make the whole website go amber, okay.
Speaker 2:That's fun, cool Fun days back from ancient history. Man, man, sometimes it's fun to walk down memory lane anything else we need to cover gene. Well, let me see yeah, let me see real quick. Huh talked about elon, talked about that, talked about the. Uh, oh, real quick little bit. So nvidia we're talking about cost of video cards. Do you know that nvidia has now become the world's most expensive company? What do you mean by that? They just crossed over four trillion dollars. They just crossed over $4 trillion.
Speaker 1:What's Amazon at?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but it's less than that. It's the first company ever on the stock exchange to cross over the $4 trillion mark. Wow, so maybe it's got an awful I mean, it has to have an awful lot of outstanding shares, because the price of NVIDIA is $164. So you got to multiply that by whatever.
Speaker 1:well, but hold on. Because no, not necessarily because there's also the market cap too, you know, yeah, the valuation isn't, you know? Well isn't always directly tied to the share.
Speaker 2:Let me see let me pull the story up real quick here.
Speaker 1:But yes, they would have to have a shit ton of shares.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which I'm glad they went up, because, yeah, it's a $4 trillion valuation.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:They reached it on July 9th 2025. First company ever to achieve this milestone.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Impressive.
Speaker 1:Right company ever to achieve this milestone, wow, impressive. Right, though, I mean their cards are selling for like five thousand dollars a piece, so board amazon.
Speaker 2:You know apple, who gives a shit? These are all small potatoes, nvidia. Now that's the real deal. Four trillion dollars, by the way, that's more than the gm gdp of most countries. Oh yeah, by the way, that's more than the GDP of most countries.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, by the way, one other story we need to talk about A woman who claimed Bridget McCrone was born as a man.
Speaker 2:A lot of people think that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she got sued for defamation and won. What Yep Daily Mail article.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, that sounds fascinating. I haven't gone into the details okay, okay that is wild, I get. Let me just finish up the nvidia thing. Guess how many countries have a gtp of higher than four trillion eight?
Speaker 1:five, five g5.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's it. That is insane, man. That's a hell of a valuation. Remember, valuation has nothing to do with profits either. They could have shit profits compared to Apple, but still have a higher valuation.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that is wild, so I'm happy with them. I think I'm up 64% for this year on Nvidia, they were one of the stocks that I decided was going to go up earlier this year. Cool anyway that Bridget Macron thing I'm going to have to dig into that she looks like a dude. She's a dude.
Speaker 1:She's a dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but how is that allowed in the Muslim countries? Well, I want to know.
Speaker 1:Oh, what do you mean? France, the most trans, the highest percentage of trans in the world is in Iran. What do you mean? What? Yes, we've talked about this, have we? I don't remember this, you're kidding, yeah the highest percentage of trans surgeries and everything else per population density is in Iran.
Speaker 2:It's not in Thailand or someplace.
Speaker 1:Nope, it's in Iran. That makes no sense to me, because their homosexuality laws do not apply to trans.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's it, that's right. So it's easier to be a trans than a gay, correct? Oh my God, that is crazy. All right, well, I guess it makes sense then.
Speaker 1:So that also explains why there finally are more gays wanting to divorce themselves from the rest of the alphabet oh, yeah, uh, that they the some of the some of the videos that have come out on, and it's mainly gay men. There have been some lesians, but gay men who come out and say, hey, we need a full-on divorce. Yep, not a separation, not anything else Like nope, we are not the same, we are not part of this.
Speaker 2:Well, that Italian lesbian chick that I follow. She had a video that said the same thing. She's like it's time for divorce. She was on TimCast, I can't remember her name. She's for divorce. Uh, she was on timcast, can't remember her name's. Got an italian sounding last name but her.
Speaker 2:And then, of course, the the, the chick that that is, gays against groomers I follow her he's been saying this for a while as well, but yeah, I think it is mostly men, but there's definitely some lesbians saying this. It's like there's a difference between LGB, which are all basically, who are you attracted to that you want to sleep with or, in case of the B, like everybody? But you know, all the rest of the alphabet is not that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know man, it's pretty wild, it's a Pandora't know man, it's pretty wild, it's a Pandora's box dude.
Speaker 2:That's the bottom line, because it wasn't just normalizing homosexuality which, granted, it's always existed, right, romans, greeks, you name it, british men, you know, it's always been there. But normalizing it is something that few countries have done, and the problem is that once you do that, there's no good argument to stop and then not normalize a whole bunch of other things. Next thing, you know, you know you got brawnies everywhere I dare I ask what?
Speaker 1:what is a what? What's a brawny?
Speaker 2:oh okay, you guys heard it here first. Ben's asking what a brawny is it's? It's usually like older dudes that are into the. Uh, what was that tv show with the?
Speaker 1:like why? Why is this a? It's like? I don't know this term, so I'm asking I'm surprised you don't know the term. It's been around forever well, I'm not really into certain things. There's genes, so that might be why I don't know it it's like a what was that?
Speaker 2:my it's guys that really like my little pony, that are into that whole my little pony thing okay, I cannot fathom this. Anyway, go, go on I mean it's, it's a as bizarre as plenty of other things, but yeah, so, yeah, I just looked it up. So Brawny is a character associated with Mystery Brawny Theater 4000, an animated TV series that featured four male fans of my Little Pony who get transported into the world of Ponyville.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like cartoon reality, I guess.
Speaker 2:I don't know. But it's always fun to use that as an example of like shit that's gotten normalized. That's kind of a little wacky, the whole brawny thing. Adult fans of my Little Pony. Yeah, I don't, I just I my brain you are so sheltered I am not sheltered like I at all, but oh you know, come on now you think you're not, but you really are okay. Oh, one last thing that we need to talk about. From a brawny thing, here we should.
Speaker 1:We should call it after this, but um some of the secret service agents at the butler pa rally where trump was shot uh have been suspended so I read that, but only the headline.
Speaker 2:Do we actually know what the no?
Speaker 1:but it's interesting that they're suspended without pay and not just fired, so it will be interesting to see. Apparently there's at least a little bit of an investigation going on and I'm anxiously waiting to see what happens. If they come off suspension, then that's probably not great.
Speaker 2:I'm not watching a youtube video about brawnies come on, you know you want to watch it. You're curious about it?
Speaker 1:no, I'm not curious. I could tell you're broad and curious I'm not probably curious look, it's from the BBC, Look you know I am curious about lots of things.
Speaker 2:You're curious about the BBC. Bonnieism is not one of them. Okay, all right, click the video. You know you want to. So apparently the US Army had reinstated some physical requirements.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:See that so that's good, yep.
Speaker 1:Did you see Pete Hegseth's drum video?
Speaker 2:No, what did it have?
Speaker 1:It just came out, I'll I'll send you a link, but it's a big recruitment ad, oh really Like a recruitment for the military, or yes, and talking about how the Us is going to have drone dominance and everything else all right.
Speaker 2:Last thing I just noticed while I'm closing windows apparently greta thunberg is done with the whole gaza thing and has moved on to rainbow coalition stuff I guess she's coming out as being queer now.
Speaker 1:Okay, I mean the way she who would have? Okay, okay. She screams lesbian and always has.
Speaker 2:You think you kind of scream like never had sex. Virgin to me is what she screams.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You can go down on that dude. Come on, lesbians are not that. Yeah, exactly, did you see this? No, it just came out. Wall Street Journal. I haven't watched it watched. I just saw the headline, apparently there's some ship that got sunk or something by the hoothies. Oh god yeah well, and there's the excuse to go into him I, I, weren't we gonna have like no military actions for four years. We were all happy about the fact that we could finally have a president that's not going to be involved in the rest of the world.
Speaker 1:Right, but freedom of navigation is one thing. That. What flag was the ship sailing under?
Speaker 2:That's the question. I haven't watched the movie Because if it was an American flag vessel.
Speaker 1:Dude, you don't touch our bodies.
Speaker 2:I doubt it was American Civilian or otherwise. We would have heard sooner. If it was American, it was probably some other country.
Speaker 1:Even a foreign flagged vessel. The reality is, the US Navy has historically been towards, you know, aircraft carriers and things like that, which is one of zayhan's major points. But anyway, I don't know how's your boy, zayhan?
Speaker 2:doing?
Speaker 2:he's still on his bandwagon against china he's got various things the all I know is now that I've seen ads for a new Russian tourism business for gun enthusiasts that lets you shoot full auto at humans, and it is tourism aboard ships in the Mediterranean. So, essentially, in hot pirated zones, you can actually board a ship and have a license, or I guess it would be. Technically, you would be a privateer, yeah sure, and so you will have the marquee of a privateer, which allows you to provide for the safety of the ship and the crew by letting your Kalashnikov do what Brandon Herrera does every night.
Speaker 1:What you know. No, I don't think Brandon Herrera goes full auto every night.
Speaker 2:Do spurts all night long. Anyway, I'm trying to be creative with my usage of the language. You can be a tourist that gets to shoot pirates. Okay, I think that's cool. I think we ought to have more of that.
Speaker 1:We ought to have coliseums. I mean, you know the joke we let the illegals go out and hunt pedophiles and call it alien versus predator damn straight man, I would have no problem at all For a chance of citizenship.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I would have no problem at all in giving somebody a citizenship as a reward for bringing in a trophy of a pedophile Problem is. Washington DC would be empty.
Speaker 1:Hey, you don't have to sell past the close like I got you.
Speaker 2:I I'm on board, I'm already on board. I wish our president administration were on board. Unfortunately, I think they're on the other side of that.
Speaker 2:All right, man, let's wrap her up all right you all enjoyed the show and, as we mentioned in the beginning, you know we do have people coming and going and we totally understand when people drop off after being supporters. It's natural. I've certainly supported a whole bunch of different YouTube channels and podcasts over the years. It doesn't mean I'm going to do it forever, but if you've been thinking about supporting us and you enjoy the show, that was a good time to do it. That'll definitely help fill that hole and you know, the more more the better, right.
Speaker 1:We would really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:All right, we'll see you next week, ben Later.
