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168 The GE Washer, The Server GPU, And The Weirdest News Cycle
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Your washer explodes, you price the repair, and suddenly you’re standing in Lowe’s asking yourself why everything is built to be replaced instead of fixed. That little domestic crisis kicks off a wide-ranging hangout where we jump from appliance economics to building a practical home AI server, including what you need to know before you buy an older data center GPU like the NVIDIA Tesla P40 (cooling, fit, and the weird power connector situation). If you’ve been searching for ways to run local AI models offline, this is the kind of nuts-and-bolts reality check that saves time and money.
Then we pivot hard into legal and Supreme Court territory: a messy Utah-related saga that has internet lawyers buzzing, plus recent rulings touching gun carry restrictions and asylum-related status. We focus less on slogans and more on what the reasoning implies, why injunction scope matters, and how brutal the legal system can be when time and money are part of the weapon.
From there it’s a sprint through markets and machines: Accenture’s eye-catching deal involving OT cybersecurity and why critical infrastructure security keeps pulling in big capital, followed by aviation nerdery on the Boeing 777X, folding wingtips, and what engine numbers actually mean. We wrap with games, flight sims, and a candid debate about resilience, self-defense, and how people learn limits through real feedback.
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Mom and Dad’s Deer Pan Sausage
25% bacon (ends and pieces)
Ground deer
Tony Chachere's
Granulated garlic (to taste)
Fresh garlic
Green onion
Jalapenos (to taste)
Dear Dolmas
Venison grape leaves
Ingredients
1 pound venison sausage (see recipe “Mom and Dad’s Deer Pan Sausage”), substitute venison, beef, or lamb burger.
1 red onion, chopped finely
olive oil
herbs butter (see recipe …), or fresh herbs
fresh parsley or cilantro, chopped finely
Garlic, minced
salt
black pepper
1 cup (maybe more) rice
Chicken broth
1 16 oz jar grape leaves
juice of 3 lemons, and zest
Instructions
In a large skillet. Heat the olive oil and herb butter (if using fresh herbs wait!)
Sauté the onions and Garlic.
Add meat and brown.
Add contents of the pan to a mixing bowl with rice
*if using fresh herbs add them to the mixing bowl
Add lemon zest to mix
Mix thoroughly, make sure there are no large pieces of meat.
While the stuffing mixture cools, remove the grape leaves from jar, rinse thoroughly and drain.
Separate each leaf, laying it flat on a cutting board and cutting off the stem at the base. Use any torn leave to line the bottom of a large pot. You want layer of leaves covering the bottom of the pan so that the stuffed leaves won’t burn while cooking.
Spoon approximately 1 tablespoon of the stuffing onto a leaf near the stem. Fold the stem over the mixture, then fold the edges toward the middle. Roll the leaf up in a tight small bundle.
Put the stuffed grape leaves in the pot, tight enough they won’t open during cooking.
Once all the leaves are stuffed and in the pot, cover with chicken broth, lemon juice, and water (water as needed). Set a plate on top of the leaves to keep them submerged in the water.
Bring to a slow boil
Reduce heat to a simmer and cook until rice is done.
Remove from stove and transfer grape leaves to a serving dish to cool. Once cooled, drizzle with olive oil and fresh lemon juice.
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Cold Open And Washer Disaster
SPEAKER_04Howdy Ben, how are you today? I'm doing great, Gene. Got a lot going on today.
SPEAKER_01Well, all right. Well, I'm glad uh you do. I uh I just was taking a nap, so kind of trying to take it easy a little bit here.
SPEAKER_04On Monday, the washer blew up. Oh. And you know, I'm the kind of guy that all right, let me look and see what's going on here. And there were corroded bits of aluminum in the tub. Holy shit, that's not good. Um yeah. And so I start googling symptoms and you know, my washer and looking at diagrams.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_04And the there's a spider arm underneath the tub that helps balance things and you know keeps the washer in balance. Okay, cool. Well, how much is this part? You know, because I can pull that out and I can pull the drum out and redo this. Motherfucker, you can't just buy the spider arm. You gotta buy a whole new drum and tub. Well, you might as well get a new washer then. Yeah, it's $365 for that one part, and I got a new washer for $600. Yep, yep. Makes sense. So anyway, I just went to Lowe's earlier and picked up the washer and brought it home, unloaded it. A GE. We have G E. Did you want to get a better brand? Like what? Samsung. LG. Why would I want a Samsung or LG washer?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I guess you want to keep replacing washers. That's fine.
SPEAKER_04Well, if I was gonna get the speedy spin or whatever the commercial that makes a home line, if I was gonna get something that I wanted to last forever. But the fact of the matter is, for the price difference, I can buy, you know, even if it like this last washer.
SPEAKER_01It probably doesn't even have Wi-Fi.
SPEAKER_04It I don't want it to have Wi-Fi.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what kind of clothing washer device doesn't even have Wi-Fi?
SPEAKER_04It does have an Ethernet jack on the back, though.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's good. Okay, all right. Well, that's something.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, got it replaced. So and and my GPU came in. Oh, your little tiny baby one that you bought. I didn't buy a tiny little baby one. What do you think? What did you buy? Well, I don't know. An NVIDIA Tesla P40. That is a little baby one, yeah. How is it a baby one? It's got 24 gigs of VRAM. Tesla. Yeah, it's their little baby line. It's
Choosing A Budget AI GPU
SPEAKER_04no, that you're you're no, you're thinking you're you're thinking of something different. This is a AI GPU, dude. Yeah, it is a compute-based GPU. How much was it? 300 something bucks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's their little baby one.
SPEAKER_04No, it's just used and old.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But anyway, it'll be good enough to run the models I want to run for inference here at the house. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah, I sent you a video of somebody doing a walkthrough of one of the vertical stack ones and having to convert. Yeah, I I had already seen that video.
SPEAKER_01Okay. All right. So I think he either ordered one or was talking about getting one to test as well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, after we are done doing this, I'm gonna pull shut down the NAS, pull it apart, install the GPU and play.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and by play you mean install stuff through command line. Super fun.
SPEAKER_04No, I mean I already have I'm using true NAS, dude. And literally, I already have an app installed that is local AI that I can use to run a whole bunch of different models, and it's all graphical done. I mean, it's super simple at this point. All right. Well, good. Now the chat interface with that local AI, that's a little different.
SPEAKER_00That's good. What are you gonna use it for?
SPEAKER_04What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean you bought it.
SPEAKER_01What are you gonna do with it?
SPEAKER_04Play around with AI on the local machine. Okay.
SPEAKER_01What do you mean? No particular purpose.
SPEAKER_04Not yet. I'm gonna play and learn and learn more about a couple more.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I already know quite a bit, but you know, I haven't poked around with certain things I want to play with. So all right.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'll have to add you to our AI group.
SPEAKER_04You have an AI group?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04In Signal? Of course you do. Just a warning to anyone looking to buy these cards, they do not have a fan on them because they're meant to go in servers and be forced, you know, for the the server cooling, forcing air through the radiator. So you have to get a fan to go on the back of it, which extends the link, so make sure it'll fit in your case. And the power supply for it is a CPU power plug, not PCIe. But they make adapters that'll take PCIe eight, two PCIe eights to a single CPU plug.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Can you run more than one on the computer?
SPEAKER_04If you have the power supply for it.
SPEAKER_01How many PCI lanes does it use? Sixteen.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, you can run more than one. If I mean it depends on your computer, but yes. Yeah. And having the power supply. But really, the problem is a lot of the local stuff is, and this is part of the reason why I chose this card, is a lot of the local stuff that you're running here isn't designed to go across more than one compute a unit. So as a result, some of the coal some of the cards that end up when you get in the high VRAM category actually have two GPUs on a single card, right? So this is a single GPU with 24 gigs of VRAM. So that I mean that's pretty damn good, if you ask me. Load a pretty big model. The money, it's very good. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01For sure.
SPEAKER_04Good. So all right. The only thing I could have gotten budget that would have been really any better would have been like a 3090 or something like that. But that would have spent 600 bucks.
SPEAKER_01Are they down to that cheap though?
SPEAKER_04Wow. I mean 3090 is getting to be a pretty old card. It is, I agree.
SPEAKER_01That is true. Yeah, the the only one I've got from NVIDIA is a 4080.
SPEAKER_04That should be good enough.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04Build you out a true NAS box, throw that in there, and run you some. I don't know, but it runs games real good. Don't you have a better AMD card that you're running games? I do.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I have three gaming machines running. Why do you need three gaming machines? There are certain games that there's an advantage in having multiple currently running accounts in.
SPEAKER_04So you're a cheater.
SPEAKER_01I'm not a cheater. It's not cheating. Um utilizing technology to the best of my abilities. Uh-huh. What can I say? I like playing with me, myself, and I.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we know how much you like to play with yourself.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, yeah. The three of us just kill gangbusters.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, I just wanted to start off on a note that wasn't politics.
SPEAKER_01Sure, no, that's it's a good call. I I think that's uh it's important to do. I was listening to Noah Gender earlier today, and Adam mentioned that you know, unlike the 5% or so of society that are stuck in political mode on X, everybody else is watching the World Cup. Yeah. And not really following the political stuff, which is is good. I've I've been enjoying people that are apolitical and all their reaction videos. That that has been quite fun, but I still I I can't get myself out of at least following legal shit, if not political shit. The uh the Lego drama continues.
SPEAKER_04So by the way, local AI has more than 1227 models available to just choose from and install. Very good. And you can just you can sort by what will fit on your card, all that. They've got everything from sound stuff to visual stuff. It's it's really cool. Nice. So do you want to hit the legal stuff up?
SPEAKER_01Well, uh like I mentioned the the stuff I've been following is mostly just the stuff having to do with Utah and the Legos. So you're probably referring to the gun stuff.
SPEAKER_04Well, I'm referring to Supreme Court stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So but you can talk about the Lego stuff and then Well, I'll just give a brief continuation of it here. So last we left things,
Utah Injunction And Lego Drama
SPEAKER_01Ben was he had a hearing scheduled in court for the 30th, and there was a a preliminary injunction, which pretty much every internet lawyer says is insane in its broad reach, which typically isn't issued by judges. But of course, this Utah judge, who's corrupt as all hell, obviously, allegedly, is you know, he went ahead and issued it and then renewed it. And the injunction basically bars Ben from not just being around anybody or harassing anybody or doing things that you could kind of justify, but barred him from having any videos available online that he'd already made, and barred him from creating any new videos to post online.
SPEAKER_04That's insane.
SPEAKER_01It is insane, and it was complete First Amendment violations, and that's aside from all the the Fourth Amendment violations that he had with the police department. It it is it is going to be very expensive for that city in the end. But unfortunately, that process takes several years, so it'll be expensive for them eventually, but not so much right now. They went so far as to shut down his GoFundMe. Wow. Because that's profiting from illegal acts. You imagine that shit? That's bullshit. That's Utah.
SPEAKER_04He hasn't been convicted of anything. Exactly. And if he's convicted, then I can you know, like Camarlo Anthony, they pulled, you know, his GoFundMe after he was convicted because he had been convicted.
SPEAKER_01But this order was also put in ex parte, which means the judge signed this order having never talked to any representation from Ben. He just got the complaint from the other side. And he put this order out. You want to hear the worst part? Sure. This is the same judge overseeing the Charlie Kirk assassination trial.
SPEAKER_00Oh god.
SPEAKER_01Uh huh. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yep. Well, there you go.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Fucking Jews. I mean Mormons. Well, they are the mountain Jews, dude. I know, that's that's what's funny about it. Yeah, it's like the whole Mormon mafia is just finally coming to a head here. I think more and more people are starting to realize that I mean they they we literally have a video in one of the uh release cop videos that they tried to hide that that says, you know, we don't we do things different around here. Like this is a cop telling the Ben that, hey, don't fuck around. We do things different around here. They sure do, they don't bother uh paying attention to US law. That's pretty different. So I don't know, man. I I think it's good that this stuff is coming out, and more people get to see that you know, Mormons are generally nice people who don't drink alcohol, but there is a dark side to that whole I don't know. I I don't want to necessarily call it a cult, but let's just say religion.
SPEAKER_04Well, it it literally is the definition of a cult because it's an offshoot of Christianity that didn't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism. We're not calling you guys a cult.
SPEAKER_04Okay. There's a big difference of you know, the Messiah came and completed the prophecy.
SPEAKER_01You uh you remember that joke I told you. That's uh that why did God create Mormonism? Why? So the Christians would know what the Jews felt like, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't think God created Mormonism or Islam or the Talmud. Like, I think the Quran, the Book of Mormon, and the Talmud are all perversions. And we don't know very much believe it was the enemy.
SPEAKER_01Nobody knows until the end, right? Yeah, God could be a crazy spaghetti monster and then has been laughing at all of us. Could be. Yeah. But highly unlikely. Yeah, yeah. I would agree with that. So that's that the the legal stuff I've been watching in that count. And again, the fun part of it is that literally every internet lawyer, every YouTube lawyer, I should say, has got videos on this topic now. So there's a ton of stuff out there, tons of opinions, and I think this is genuinely gonna help Ben and the rest of the guys that were there with him a lot because you would never get all these lawyers to be on your actual team for any case, but they're all offering up their opinions for free right now. Yeah, and how to fight it, which just means that even Diva Fry was talking about it at one point. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody on both sides of the aisle. So the most liberal YouTube lawyer, Legal Eagle, he's done multiple episodes on this, but also have the most conservative lawyers out there. And one of the uh prominent Texas-based civil rights lawyers that that sues police departments in Texas all the time, his mentor, the guy that got him uh in uh into doing this type of law, he is actually now on Ben's team. Like for real. So Ben's got a number of lawyers. I think he's got six lawyers right now. Uh he's got three for the criminal case, which is happening right now, and two or three for the civil case that he's gonna bring against the city. So the criminal case obviously has got priority right now because he needs to make sure that all those charges are thrown out.
unknownCool.
SPEAKER_01And then he can pursue the legal. The other thing that we found out is, and this is not super surprising, frankly, but we've been finding out more and more information about Brickson Figs, who's the company that's you know, stole the Legos, allegedly. Allegedly. And CoffeeZilla did a very good deep dive into it. He kind of said, look, the numbers are a little whack, it's probably more like 100,000, not 200,000. But there's certainly evidence that says that these guys had those Legos and never paid for them. Probably in the neighborhood of 50,000 to 100,000 of those Legos. And the the history is starting to come out about the owners of that company who also own another company called Legally Mine, which is a non-law firm legal advice company, where they sued their father in that company. And have also, as of yesterday, it's been reported, allegedly have not paid taxes for three years on that company. So there's some deep shit that people are uncovering about the quote-unquote bad guys in this whole thing. So it's it's uh it I said this as soon as it first came out. To me, this is just like watching uh the 2026 version of Tiger King. Yeah. Which I have photos so cringy. Yeah, which I I have photos of petting tigers at Tiger King back in 2010.
SPEAKER_04You're shitting me.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no, no. No, my wife and I did the VIP tour so we could play with all of the animals. Because tigers are fucking awesome, dude. Are you kidding? Okay. Yeah,
Tiger King Memories And Pet Snakes
SPEAKER_01you know, holding a 10-pound tiger, Siberian tiger, makes you really want to have one.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, I'm they're so adorable. I don't want anything that can eat me as a pet.
SPEAKER_01I only want pets that can eat me. Any other kind of pet is just a pussy. Yeah, when Gene's snake strangles him. Yeah, yeah, that's what my dad always tells me. Every time we get off the phone, he's like, Well, hopefully your snake won't kill you by the next phone call. Like, well, it's been 20 years, Dad. I don't think he's gonna kill me.
SPEAKER_04How long do they live for?
SPEAKER_01So the bigger ones live about 25 years, the smaller ones live about 50.
SPEAKER_04Wow. So you're coming due for your snake to go.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no. So the big one I got in 2011. So he is right now 15 years old.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01At least another decade. But, you know, in captivity, the the thing they typically die from is diseases that have to do with just eating too much. And because of that, because I I read about that early on, I've been very good, much better with him than with myself, at controlling his calorie intake. So he's at a very, very healthy weight. He's not at all obese, he's active pretty regularly, getting exercise. So, you know, it it's a I think he's in pretty good health. I'm sure he'll last at least 10 years, maybe longer. But the little one will definitely outlive me.
SPEAKER_04Well, who's getting your snake when you die, and don't say me.
SPEAKER_01Well, no, you're not no, you're I don't think you're capable of taking care of an animal. Dude, my cat lived 18 years. Oh, okay. Well, if you insist, alright, the snake's yours. If you insist, Ben, I I get it. You got jealous of me giving it to somebody else, so I'll modify my will. The snake is yours. Thanks, man. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00There's a snake on the loose. Where did it come from?
SPEAKER_01Oh, dude, there's so many cool animals out there that I would love to have, but you can't really have unless you got decent acreage. Yeah. And you know, like a separate house for them to live in. There's a video of a pet komodo dragon I was watching. It's so cool, man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I do not want to get bit by one of those.
SPEAKER_00He he's like a big uh big stuffed animal. Yeah. They're they're not bad.
SPEAKER_01They're they're they're generally not aggressive because they're an apex predator, so there's really nothing that hurts them on the island they live on. So they're not like the only reason he'd ever attack you is if he was hungry. Because you're food, basically. But if he's not hungry, that he's not afraid of you, he wouldn't attack you for that. Because a lot of small animals would actually lash out at you because they're afraid. But Komodo dragons, no, not really afraid of humans.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I still wouldn't want one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 270 pounds of pure muscle and venom. Sounds like a hell of a pet to me. Yeah. No, it's all good stuff. All right, let's move on from uh crazy topics to more interesting ones. So the Supreme Court, you want to talk about the three big rulings. Yeah, I was gonna say there's more than one. Which one you'll start on?
SPEAKER_04We'll start with Hawaii. Okay. So So they struck down Hawaii's gun ban. The insane gun ban they have, yeah. Yeah. So Hawaii had a law that said to carry on someone else's property, so anywhere in public, including like a grocery
Supreme Court Guns And Asylum Limits
SPEAKER_04store, you have to have affirmative permission from the store owner, not assumed permission like we have here in Texas, right? It is up to the store owner to say no, I post signs, I don't want people carrying here. And the court struck that down as unconstitutional. So this is going to be a huge win across. I mean, the ripple effects of this and the language in some of the decision, which I wish I had it pulled up, but I forgot to pull it up. Some of the language is going to be very useful in other cases.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you see the opinion that Clarence Thomas wrote?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, uh yes, but go on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so the clear Clarence Thomas concurred, but he wrote his own opinion. Basically bringing a concept to light which has been, I think, grossly swept under the rug, which goes to does Congress have the legal ability, are they empowered to make laws that affect people within individual states? What do you mean? Well, it every every law on the books that we have that has to deal that deals with a federal law that isn't explicitly prescribed in the Constitution is simply an extension out of the Commerce Clause. Right. So everything is built out of the Commerce Clause. So his Which is insane. Which is insane. And that's what his dissenting opinion, or not dissenting, his concurring opinion went into. And actually, I just realized I got my cases mixed up. So this is one of the other Supreme Court cases that I'm talking about, not the one for Hawaii. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So let's finish off the Hawaii one and we'll get back to this one.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, I'm just excited. I think we are seeing, you know, a lot of good rulings out of this court this year. And yeah, I'm I'm excited to see what they do with birthright citizenship.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Alright. So the next one the Haitians and the Syrians get to go back. Yeah. So that's good. No more asylum.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Yeah, they they basically affirmed something very obvious, which is merely asking for asylum does not grant you any special privileges or rights, nor does it place you on US territory if you have a kid.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and also you don't have the same legal protections that a citizen would have. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's I think as again, this is kind of following uh Trump's executive orders that he's laid out and reaffirming that they are in fact very much constitutional. And they seem obvious to us, right? It's like, well, why couldn't a president, his commander-in-chief, have an executive order that basically says we're not going to let asylum seekers cross into US as soon as they ask for asylum. Well, but that's a different case. Well, which case are you talking about? So I'm talking about the Somali asylum. Oh, sorry. Yeah, we jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you jumped back to that one.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was I was referring to the ones of turning back asylum seekers at the border.
SPEAKER_04Right. And saying no, you should ask for asylum in Mexico. Yeah, and and we are under no obligation to give them anything if they have not set foot on US territory.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and like there is no right to then step foot on US territory. And even if you're coming in for an interview or whatever, that doesn't change your status.
SPEAKER_04Right. Yeah, you can't come here, overstay your visa, or you know, then claim asylum.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Now, of course, there's Europe is crying that this this ruling now is gonna allow US to invalidate international asylum laws. The US is gonna be incompl non-compliant with international law, which I always go back to this idea there's no such thing.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_01It's a made-up country.
SPEAKER_04Who's gonna make us?
SPEAKER_01Who's gonna enforce it? Yeah, who's gonna enforce it? I mean, we know who's gonna make it, Brussels, but who's gonna enforce it? Nobody. So, yeah, I I think this this case started off in 2017, so it's been what now eight years running.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Insane. So, in a sense, like I almost I mean, I I I'm gonna say it, but I I kind of don't necessarily like saying this because Trump did get screwed out of it out of his second term, but it almost kind of worked out better for Trump to have his first and third term.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it really did. It gave him time to really plan some things out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it it it demonstrated for four years the negative effects of not following his policies. So I think it made it clearer and more likely that people like Supreme Court would actually be on his side.
SPEAKER_00So yeah.
SPEAKER_04So good thing there was a pretty big merger that happened last week. So Accenture bought out all the existing investors in Dracos in a huge deal.
SPEAKER_01And Drago's is a what do you mean?
SPEAKER_04Well, I know what it is, but not everybody
Accenture Deal For OT Cybersecurity
SPEAKER_04knows who it is. Okay, I used to work for Drago's. Right. Full disclosure, as of right now, I'm still a stockholder, but we'll talk about that. So there are things I have to keep confidential, but Dracos is a OT cybersecurity company, does network monitoring, intrusion detection, threat intelligence, stuff like that. Very cool startup, interesting tech, does a lot of things, good stuff. Even better can go to dragos.com and see, you know, their product. But anyway, so what's public about the deal? So Accenture tried to outright buy Drago's, which I think is an odd choice. What the hell is Accenture doing getting into software? But Rob Lee, the CEO and one of the founders said no, but I'll make you another deal. And the deal that he has written, and again, I can't go in, I have seen the merger documents. I'm still going through them because it's a shit ton of pages. The the deal he made is gonna go down in history if this actually closes and is successful.
SPEAKER_01In what way?
SPEAKER_04So the board is highly restricted. Accenture will have three out of the five seats on the board, but and there will be one independent and then Rob, but the Accenture, the board can't be expanded, can't be changed. Basically, for any of the rules governing the board to be changed, there'd have to be another equity event where they were selling or doing something like that, right? But basically, Accenture can only set the year targets. So the financial planning, right? What your sales targets are, things like that. That's all they can set. They can't fire Rob as CEO. He has a permanent board seat. They can't fire him, they can't do anything on strategy. He is not required to bring strategy to the board. He can if he wants, but he's not required to. Like it is weird, dude. Like I have never seen CEO. Yes. I have never seen a deal like this where a company accepted so little control and spent a ton of money.
SPEAKER_02Huh.
SPEAKER_04Like they spent $1.4 billion on the original on the shares, the investor shares that they got, and they're putting in another billion over the next five years into the company as investment that as long as and the only way they don't put that money in is if Rob doesn't meet those yearly targets two years in a row.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04So they're betting they've always done.
SPEAKER_01Yes, they're betting on him continuing down that path. Mm-hmm. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I just the only thing I can think of is they see a six a pretty so here's the thing. They're getting in at around $65 a share. I think when when Drago's IPOs, which will probably be I don't know, 27, late 27, early 28, if the market's good and everything, I can see them IPOing at over 120 bucks a share.
SPEAKER_01Not financial advice. That's cool.
SPEAKER_04No, not at all. So I think maybe Accenture's just seeing the same things I am and going, hey, let's double our money. But I don't know. We'll see. And it looks like I'm gonna be forced to sell my shares as part of this.
SPEAKER_01Ah, okay. Which you could buy the shares of the other company.
SPEAKER_04Sure. Yeah. If I wanted extended I don't, but I don't want to pay for a big four consulting firm. It's not a sexy company. Now, I'm I'm probably gonna take the proceeds from this and buy SpaceX. Yeah, I figured you were gonna say that. So I don't have to pay capital gains taxes.
SPEAKER_01Right, right, right. Makes sense. And I think SpaceX is you know, they'll have bumps along the way, but I I think year over year for a longer hold than that financially, that stock's definitely gonna go up.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, if Elon pulls off what it looks like he's gonna be able to pull off, that will be a very, very profitable company.
SPEAKER_00Sounds good.
SPEAKER_04Anyway. So good. I think it's bullshit that they can make me sell my own.
SPEAKER_00Oh, force you to sell. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, that happens. They want to get they want to get all the stock that they can.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, if they if not sell, they'll they'll usually convert stock in deals like this. Right.
SPEAKER_04But that's the thing, is they're not converting. And Accenture isn't Drago's is gonna remain an independent company. So, like, it's if if what is on paper is to believe be believed, it is crazy. Like, I'm telling you, the business world will read about this in history as the Drago steal. Like, yeah, it's that kind of thing. Because this just doesn't happen. Okay. You sound so excited.
SPEAKER_01I think questions. You know, it's kind of it's exciting to people that own some of that stock, I think more so than others, but well, that are interested in cybersecurity. Sure. Any other cybersecurity companies doing deals? Doing stock deals. Not that I'm aware of. Oh, I have one thing that's tangential to stocks. I just found out a couple days ago that what was his name? I think it was Rob Bear? Somebody bear. His last name was Bear. But guy that ran Capital Factory here in Austin, I've been to a bunch of his events over the last 15 years. Adam's been to a bunch of his events back when he used to live here. It was kind of
Plane Crash News And Conspiracy Talk
SPEAKER_01like Capital Factory was always in the nexus of running things for entrepreneurs, for startups. They did they did a deal with Space Force to do like Space Force investments in companies. They're always had very nice like events happening during South by South, South by Southwest. It was it was a successful entrepreneurial focused business that had gotten pretty good. Anyway, the guy, this this guy apparently was the person that died in the private airplane clash that happened a week ago in uh West Texas. So that because usually you know you see airplane crashes now and then, but this one I was like, oh, I know that name. I've met this guy, I've talked to him. So that's always crazy when that happens.
SPEAKER_04So do you think he was killed off?
SPEAKER_01No, no, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04Oh, come on, man.
SPEAKER_01No, I don't think I don't think there's a conspiracy here, man.
SPEAKER_04Damn it.
SPEAKER_01No, no.
SPEAKER_04You're no friend.
SPEAKER_01He was part of the Jewish cabal, but I don't really see a conspiracy here at all. Just an accident. You know, accidents happen to planes all the time.
SPEAKER_04No, no, they really don't.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Well, even Adam didn't see a conspiracy here. I asked him.
SPEAKER_04Speaking of planes, have you looked at the design for the Boeing 777X? No. Dude, it's gonna be longer than a 747. Is it really? Wow. Yeah. And there is an upper deck on it. Uh really. Yeah, it's crew quarters.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's a little hidden
Boeing 777X Design And Engines
SPEAKER_04compartment for actual crew rest area.
SPEAKER_01So in the 747, that's actually underneath. That's on the basement floor.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01And there's a little elevator for the crew only that goes down.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, there's a set of stairs from the door. Interesting. So yeah, it's pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. When is the first construction of the new model?
SPEAKER_04Well, they just are sending a they're still in the FAA approvals because of the engines and everything.
SPEAKER_01And is it gonna be like a 400 or what's the designation?
SPEAKER_04No, it's gonna be 777X.
SPEAKER_01Oh, X, okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think X just experimental, isn't it? Right, but it's all right, so the I think it's the 900 series or whatever. Oh, okay. So it's a 900 got it.
SPEAKER_01I hear it is finally flying. The X is a 777-9. Yeah, there you go. It'll have 20% lower fuel consumption, 40% smaller nose footprint. That's an interesting demographic.
SPEAKER_04Look at the thrust capability of the engine.
SPEAKER_0160% lower operating costs, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I don't see anything about thrust in here.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, all right. Google 777x engines compared to cosmonaut launch. I'm on like the the rocket that took Yuri Gagarin to orbit. Yeah. Had slightly more thrust than these engines.
SPEAKER_01Really? Okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01These are GE9X engines, it looks like on it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. They're also um Boeing's not giving a choice on the engines.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. The most powerful commercial aircraft engine ever built, 134,000 pounds. What the what that's like a weird measurement. It's 597,000 kilonewtons.
SPEAKER_04Yep. It's a lot of fucking thrust, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's pretty good. And it looks like there's already orders for these things. Oh yeah. Silkway West Airlines, I've never heard of them, but they've one of the really cool things is the wingtips fold.
SPEAKER_04So it can pull into a standard gate.
SPEAKER_01Which is very cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so it doesn't have to have a specialty gate like the 747 or the A38D had.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And it can, you know, doesn't require special taxiways or anything.
SPEAKER_01I mean, a triple seven is a very good number for an airplane. So it's at least it's not a triple six. No, well, you know, a triple eight would be even better. But why? Oh, triple eight is the most lucky number in Asia.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Like when they decide to do a triple eight, they're gonna be like multiple years of orders coming from the Asian Airlines. And why everyone will want to book their flight on a triple eight plane?
SPEAKER_04In Asia, maybe.
SPEAKER_01In Asia, which is the largest market in the world, yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, anyway, it's a cool plane. I watched the whole thing on it. Okay. Yeah. It's cool.
SPEAKER_01I have not been following it, so this is good to know.
SPEAKER_04Well, what's interesting to me is the biggest thing, the biggest component that they had to get the FAA to sign off on is the folding wing tips.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because it's it's a first in commercial aviation. You know, we've been doing folding wing designs in military. In military forever, yeah. Forever, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yeah, that's that's good. Well, you know, the the wing tip has been changing. It's just been being bent up for most airlines. Most airplanes, rather. Because it increases efficiency. Actually, I watched a video of this probably quite a few years back now that showed the the airflow around the wings and how exactly how that bent wing design actually increases the efficiency. And then showing the birds that utilize the same exact mechanism with their feathers. So again, if we just pay attention to the way nature does it, we we wouldn't have it wouldn't have taken a hundred years to get there.
SPEAKER_04Hey man, we only iterate so fast.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Well, it's in eventually everybody iterated, and by everybody, I mean there's basically two airplane companies, right? Two that make big planes, there's more that make smaller planes. I think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_04You're forget you're forgetting Amber Air in Canada. I like Embraer, they're good companies. The Canadians with their cute little plane company.
SPEAKER_01They have cute little planes, and I I do like the Embryera 170s. I've always been a fan of those.
SPEAKER_00Good planes.
SPEAKER_04No, I think Boeing is set for a pretty good resurgence, actually, with some of those.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, if they can keep quality control up, that would be the thing I'd be focused on the most. But if they can do that, they could welcome back. But you know, everybody that talks about Boeing talks about the old Boeing pre all the management consultants coming in and and getting rid of the RD budgets.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, this plane seems to have quite a bit of RD put into it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's what I mean. It's a good sign. So if if Boeing is back, that's good for America, it's good for really anybody that flies. Because for the most part, Boeing's just been writing their old designs for so many years. Now, has Adam said anything good or bad about this one? Because I know he's not a fan of the composite stuff. I have not heard. Okay. Because I I know this thing like the engine has more composite parts in it now.
SPEAKER_04Well, and the engine runs way cooler too. That's part of their efficiency gain. They were able to use way more bleed air and 50% quieter, 10% less Knox production.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Yeah. And power. Lots and lots of power.
SPEAKER_04So Yeah, the thrust numbers was what I couldn't get over. Like it's just that's insane.
SPEAKER_01Did you ever watch that video? It was probably a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, of the airplane. I think he was actually not an airplane. He was an airport employee that stole a plane in Seattle. There's a guy that was like, you know, he worked for the airports. I don't think he was an airplane mechanic, but he was something, you know, one of the crew guys at the airport. And had a bit of a nervous breakdown or something.
Stolen Plane Story And Flight Sims
SPEAKER_01Was an avid airplane simulator aficionado. Okay. As it turned out. And so he basically took a plane that, you know, just got emptied of passengers and nobody was on it. And he just wanted to go joy riding. So he actually took off. He did. He actually took off. I mean, he knew he knows what to say, right? And then people weren't sure exactly what was going on. They thought maybe it was a test flight, or maybe they're moving the plane or something. But whatever it was, he got the right, said the right stuff, took off, but then they realized there's no plan filed for this plane. This plane shouldn't have taken off. It's got another flight coming up in an hour. And started talking to this guy, and and he's basically, yeah, I just, you know, I'm gonna have a little fun. But I'm trying to remember if it was an How many years did he get for theft of a plane? Oh, there he didn't get any any time.
SPEAKER_04How did he not?
SPEAKER_01It was a suicide run. What do you mean? Well, I mean he crashed the plane and died. Oh yeah. And that was his intent, was a suicide. But the I uh it was either a 787 or I don't think it was a 767. I think it was a 787 in Trump's plan a 787. But I'm not 100% sure. Is it? I thought it was a 777.
SPEAKER_04No. Not his personal plan.
SPEAKER_01Oh, the personal one you're talking about. The one that we saw. Uh no, I think that was a 767. I don't think that was a 787. Okay. But yeah, go ahead and look it up. But anyway, watching 57. Oh, even older. There you go. 757. Watching this guy's video.
SPEAKER_04Do you have a jet like that?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I have a spaceship. But watching this guy's video of him flying the plane where he's almost touching the water and then pulling straight up and then doing a loop. I mean, it it shows you what these airframes are capable of doing, especially when they're empty. Well, it's if you don't follow directions.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, if you do if you anyone who hasn't seen it, if you go watch the 747 flight demo that whatever Tex did, you know, where he did a barrel roll and all sorts of stuff, and they chewed his ass out, and he's like, Yeah, I want to sell the plane, you know.
SPEAKER_01It's like and there's videos, and again, I don't remember if it was a 777 or 787 where they where they have the wings bent at about a 35 degree angle, and they don't snap. Wow. I mean the frames are extremely resilient on these things. But he was he tried to crash the plane by doing you know some crazy maneuvers and loop-de-loops into the side of a mountain or the water multiple times and was able to pull out of them, which was the super impressive part. It's like Jesus Christ, this like he knows that he's probably gonna die this next pass. And he doesn't die. So eventually he said his goodbyes and just crashed in the water. I think it was the water. I'm pretty sure it was the water, maybe it was a mountain, but I think it was the water. But it was a crazy, crazy video, and I'm pretty sure it was out of Seattle Tacoma Airport. Because you can see all the mountains in the background while he's flying around and the water. But it shows you one, the performance of the the plane, and but also two, this guy had never flown this plane in his life. He'd only done in simulator. Yeah, only in simulator, and he was able to pull off all these maneuvers. It's crazy. That is true, and that is one of the things that back when I haven't played Flight Sim for many, many, many years. I used to play it maybe 20 years ago, Flight Sim 10. But I would occasionally do these runs from Europe and New York and 747s, and my wife always used to make fun of me for doing that because I'm doing it in real time, so it takes you know four and a half, five hours to do a flight. And she's like, This is so stupid. Why are you doing this? Um and the the fun part of it was that you would do these runs, and there would be random emergencies and failures that would trigger. That that was what the fun part of it was. Is like, can you deal with emergency X or emergency Y when you're flying over Greenland? You know, stuff like that. Sometimes you need to make an emergency landing, sometimes you just have to change your altitude and go around the you know, some kind of big weather thing, but there was, or maybe you'd you'd end up flying in on three three engines instead of four. But there was always uh some kind of emergency that randomly could pop up at some point during the flight. So I don't know. It's I I think that's fun. I'm sure actual pilots like Adam would consider that not fun. I think most people that fly real airplanes tend to fly them not looking forward to dealing with an emergency, but rather looking forward to having an uneventful flight. But in a video game, that's generally the thing that you kind of get excited about. Is like, do I know enough about this plane to be able to deal with an emergency?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Alright, cool. Well hey, you know. It's all good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So uh now I'm guessing simply because you haven't mentioned anything about them, you're not currently playing any video games, right?
SPEAKER_04I have been I've been busy enough with work and everything. You know, uh no.
SPEAKER_01Because I've been waiting for you to finish the uh what the heck's it called? The Bioshock. The Libertarian game, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bioshock.
Game Backlog And Steam Sale Picks
SPEAKER_01Yep. For what? So you could start on a different game. Which game? Why it's up to you, but I got a list of like three of them that I've told you about that are good. Jesus Christ. Well, this is nothing new, dude. This is Red Dead Redemption, which I think you're gonna love once you get into it. Yeah, I know you got them. You're just not playing them. So I'm so I'm waiting for you to finish this one and for you to start the next one. That's all. Or Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. I've got it. That's on sale right now. Did you buy the two version or not? Because you started one and then you told me this sucks. I'm like, well, yeah, you're in the wrong version.
SPEAKER_04Yes, I bought it.
SPEAKER_01You did buy the two. Okay, because it is currently on sale.
SPEAKER_04Let me load Steam and I'll Yeah, double check.
SPEAKER_01Because if you didn't, like it's it's 50% off or something.
SPEAKER_04I think last time it was on sale, I did that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's a pretty pretty good discount. And then for anyone that plays games right now, front all of Frontier games are on sale, which is things like the Jurassic Park game. I think it's Jurassic Park 3, as well as we have Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Okay, good. With all the all the add-ons, all the DLCs. Make sure you get those while they're on sale if you don't have them.
SPEAKER_04See if I like the game.
SPEAKER_01No, you're gonna want all of them loaded. They make the game better. And then they also make like what's the like zoo tycoon, I believe.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so what what what DLCs do I need? Because there's uh for King the Hunters, yeah, the extended official soundtrack. Don't need that.
SPEAKER_01No, you don't need soundtrack.
SPEAKER_04Deliverance art book, don't need that.
SPEAKER_01You don't need that, but you need all the other ones. So Legacy of the Forge, Mysteria Ecclesiastica, Lion's Crest, Brushes with Death, Gallant Huntsman Kit, Shields, okay. Well, that's something else. Um they're all on sale right now. But they also, Frontier also makes elite. Then is that if that includes all of them, then yeah, you might as well. That that wasn't the thing when I bought the game. Lion's Crest, Expansion Pass. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably a new new version that has everything. Might as well get that. Because Steam is good about like once you've bought one thing out of a pass, it just subtracts it out and you just pay the difference. Pretty good on that. Well, I'll have to look at this after. Yeah, look at this after. We don't need to do it during the show. But anyway, I'm saying Elite Dangerous is also on sale for like 70% off right now for anyone that doesn't know it. It's one of my most played games out there, I think about 9,000 hours or so. And it is a one-to-one simulation of the Milky Way Galaxy based on NASA scientific data. And it's a game you buy once, but it's more like an MMO in the sense that there's always stuff that's going on in the background. So when you quit out of the game, it's not like everything pauses, everything keeps going, even when you're not on it. So there's events happening, there's trade going on, there's battles being fought for different sectors, all that kind of stuff, and there's a lot of options and variety of what you can do. So if you are a space game nerd like me or just want to try your first space game, Elite Dangerous right now, very cheap. It's I think eight bucks for the deluxe edition, which is the one you want to get, and so very, very cheap price on that. Still playing X4 and still playing a little bit of Star Citizen, mostly because aside from Ben, who I got into Star Citizen, and he wasn't impressed enough to keep going in it.
SPEAKER_04But well, I mean, it was just they had just released some updates and best shape.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, it was not in the best shape. But I did get two other people in it, both of whom took it a deep dive. They've been playing about eight to ten hours a day every day.
SPEAKER_04So I've had a lot of playtime.
SPEAKER_01It's a lot of playtime, but I'll I'll tell you later who these guys are. But they're surprised me by how enthusiastic they are. I think one guy's spent already over a thousand dollars on the game. Damn. The other guy is doing the opposite approach. His whole goal is to not spend a dime, but he's grinding his way to everything, right? Because there's two paths. You can buy shit for real money, or you can just do stuff in the game to get the same thing for in-game currency. And uh most people kind of, you know, they spend a little bit of money, maybe a few hundred bucks, to get some things and then get the rest of it with in-game. Other people are collectors, won't talk about them, and then then there are people that just don't want to spend any money and just do it, want to do it all in-game.
SPEAKER_00And all those methods are perfectly fine.
SPEAKER_04So did you see the Louisiana pastor that beat the crap out of a guy?
SPEAKER_01I don't think so. That sounds like something I want to watch.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so this guy threatened to kill his wife and kids. And uh maybe even rape his wife first or something. I won't read the details. Huh?
SPEAKER_01Can you do that?
SPEAKER_04Anyway, the pastor ran him down.
SPEAKER_01Wait, the kid he he threatened to kill the pastor's family or his own family? Yeah,
Pastor Fight Clip And Self-Defense
SPEAKER_01no, the pastor's family. Oh, I thought you meant his own family. Okay. I was like, the guy threatened to rape his own wife? What?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, no.
SPEAKER_01Go yeah, I sent the link in our so he threatened to kill the pastor, right?
SPEAKER_04And his family. And threatened to rape and kill his wife and grandchild. Well, that's just stupid. And so the pastor's chasing him down, and the kid swings at him, and pastor gets him on the ground and starts knocking the heck out of him. Not the most efficient way. Like he could have put some more force in his punches and do some other things a little bit better. Slapping him. No, no, no. But he was just like bringing his hand down like a hammer instead of actually punching. I see. You know, it just just a critique from someone who, you know, did combat sports. Anyway, I did punch them. First of all, you make a good fist and actually, you know, you start there. Two, you got to toughen up those first two knuckles because those first two knuckles are what you actually should be making contact with. And for a punch, not a jab, you should bring it back and chamber it underneath your shoulder and fully twist and extend as hard as you can.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. As a Muay Thai guy, the way you punch somebody is with your right foot.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01And that actually sounds funnier than it is because you're pressing the your foot down on the ground to accelerate your lower body, then your mid torso, then your upper body, which finally ends up ending in the body.
SPEAKER_04And that's my entire point of the chambering, is you're going to use your the spin of your torso as part of that.
SPEAKER_01But anyway, we're still the way you're describing this pastor is he was just using his arm muscles.
SPEAKER_04Correct. Yeah. But anyway, it's hilarious and it's instant justice for this guy. And, you know, that's my kind of Christianity. You know, hey man, I'm not gonna start a fight, but you throw at me, I'm gonna take you out.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, I think that's I mean, I'm all for that. I I think that a lot of the problems that currently exist in the US are the result of not enough bullying.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah. We we we need the we need people need the we need so first of all, we need to stop being so litigious and pussy about assault, what constitutes assault or battery. Yep. Like, and that's one thing I like about Texas is we are a mutual combat state. So, you know, there are limits to that, but if two guys get in a bar fight, neither one of them's getting, you know, screwed over that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I and much like I said about religion, you know, changing my mind on the need for religion for society, I I think there's also a need for bullies. And it it may sound weird to me, you're like, no, we don't we need to get rid of bullies. No, we don't. Bullies serve a very useful role in the correcting behavior, the process of growing up of children, is they through very little actual physical damage, and because there is that's the only kind of damage, there's no such thing as words will hurt, right? Words are not violence, words are communication, but through very little physical damage, they will develop what is in most animals a well-developed sense of self-defense and refusal to be beat up on. And what we've got instead is we've got an awful lot of people in society that are under 30 years old who think that the correct answer to somebody hurting their feelings, but even like let's say it's an actual physical altercation, that their their next step is to run away and call their mommy. Like, what the fuck happened to the men? Well, we took all the bullies out of school, and men were not allowed to develop into men. They stayed as boys.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01So I think you know, it's it's one of these things where if you're never challenged, if you're never oppressed, you will never have the the choice to make to defend yourself. You're never going to be in a position where you learn at which point is the appropriate point to turn to violence. And this is something that Ben talks about all the time, not just on the podcast, is that violence is just the continuation beyond a certain point of a um violence is nothing but politics by other means.
SPEAKER_04Politics, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. So the the truth is all of civilization is predicated on the use of force. Every relationship, everything is predicated on the hey man, you can only push me so far. And when you push me further than that, you know, you're gonna have to deal with me.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yeah, but even beyond that, I think that this is the way that like relationships with your spouse work, is that you have a relationship with your spouse because you're someone that she knows is going to turn to violence to protect her.
SPEAKER_00Like, this is why women like men that are capable of defending them.
SPEAKER_01Well, unfortunately, a lot of them don't see that as capable. They actually look for violent men and then bitch about how violent their men are. But it is, I think, a very natural thing for somebody who's weaker to become friendly with somebody who's stronger because it's good for them long term. And that could be a romantic relationship, it could just even be a friendly one, you know? It does like there's plenty of instances in real life as well as plenty of stories in literature about somebody who is maybe physically less capable being friends with someone who is physically more capable, but maybe not as intelligent or not as you know, something in another other factors. So I think violence is the thing that all of us as animals on the planet share in common. It's it's it's whether we get our way or we don't get our way. The difference with humans versus most animals is aside from just a natural violent reaction to get our way, we're also capable of rational thought and deciding that sometimes maybe getting our way right now is not the right solution, and we should hold off on violence because there might be a better result from either delayed violence or just doing something to counter and diffuse the situation so that the violence doesn't have to get involved. But it has to exist, it can't not exist.
SPEAKER_04And you know, people criticizing Trump's deal in our with Iran, right? What they're failing to realize is he's already shown that the threat of violence is there. And quite frankly, I think he's betting on, and we saw it today with uh Iran shooting at a cargo ship. You know, they're they're not
Deterrence, Iran, And Hard Power
SPEAKER_04right. Well, it's it's just because of the way the IGRC is set up. They can't control all these radical fuckers. No. And they have access to arms. So it's just never gonna work. No, it's never gonna work. Literally, Trump is setting it up where I tried, I tried for Beast. I gave them everything they wanted, and now we just had to bomb the hell out of them.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And and I don't know if JD realizes he's the sacrificial goat, but JD's the sacrificial goat.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. How much you want to bet we end up taking control of Karg Island and the Iranian coastline?
SPEAKER_01I've always thought we would. I was surprised that we haven't to date. Because that that would be a very natural thing.
SPEAKER_04Guarantanamo bay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it's a natural thing that should happen. Is what we need to do. And the way it would happen is we take control of it. There'd be some skirmishes or rockets being shot at it from Iran, which will then force us to actually fully topple the regime. And that'll be that. And this is what should have happened since day one. Yeah. And we can pull out the city. Listen to Netanyahu, he would have known all this.
SPEAKER_04Oh, please. Benjamin Netanyahu is screwed once this resolves.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't know, man. I mean, he's a U.S. citizen. He could just come here.
SPEAKER_04Is he a dual citizen?
SPEAKER_01I believe so, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well. I don't I don't think you're the head of state should be a good idea.
SPEAKER_01Israel doesn't have a rule against dual citizenship. I think every country should. There is something to be said for that. I I I don't disagree with you. I think that even if you are a dual citizen, if you get into politics, it probably should be an opportunity to pick one. Right? Yeah. So I I I would support that. Like I think in general that you know, like my sister goes back and forth or whatever to Russia. I who cares if she's a dual citizen? Totally apolitical. Nothing there. It's just a convenience factor. It means less uh scrutiny at the border, basically. But you know, for people that are political, I I think you gotta choose. Yeah, pick one.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. By the way, did you see that uh Dominion dropped their suit against Mike Lindell?
SPEAKER_01Yes, that's a hefty lawsuit, it's been going on for many years.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I I've always thought Mike was a little kooky on some of the Dominion stuff, but them dropping that lawsuit, dude.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know. I
Dominion Lawsuit Dropped And Legal Reality
SPEAKER_01I think the first step is dropping it. The second step is they're gonna probably negotiate a settlement with him. Because I think they're hoping that them dropping it puts an end to this whole thing. But if I was Mike Lindell, right now we'd be looking exactly what did they find out that proves our case, which means he needs to get reimbursed for all his legal bills.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01For seven years.
SPEAKER_04But I wouldn't do a settlement.
SPEAKER_01No, well, I mean, eventually these things all end up settling.
SPEAKER_04Right, but you don't do a settlement that prevents you from being able to dig in and speak and so on, right? Which is what Dominion's opening terms are going to be.
SPEAKER_01Of course, of course. You don't settle a their opening volley, no, for sure. You you keep pressing. But you know, the court process takes a long time and costs a lot of money. And I I I don't think it's fair, but it is what it is, is that suing people is a rich man's game. And being sued is a rich man's game. Like if a person that does not have high financial means gets sued, they will get screwed. There's not there's not a whole lot that they'll be able to do because money is what differentiates good lawyers from mediocre lawyers, and the mediocre lawyers' main job is going to be to settle. They'll they'll work you as much as they'll be actually dealing with the opposition and try and explain to you why it's in your best interest to take the deal, whatever the deal is. And we see this all the time with the uh public defenders. You know, their job is basically to minimize the sentencing, but then to get the defendant to settle, to agree to lesser charges.
SPEAKER_00Rich people don't need to do that.
SPEAKER_04Um well, all I can say is good for Mike.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I'm not I've never bought one of his pillows, but I've always liked them. I even if it's cookie.
SPEAKER_04So what I would say is I don't like his pillows. I tried them. But what I will say, like I have the down comforter from his site, and it's fantastic. Yeah. And I had the first one for a couple of years, and a baffle fell, uh failed in it. Okay, you know, and I just sent him an email. Yeah, but I sent him an email and they said, you know, they sent me a new one and uh with a return label for the other one, no other questions asked. You know, his sheets are great and his towels are great. Nice. Like the you can get it's really decent quality stuff that he really there his warranty is no fucking joke. So yeah, like the sheets and the the comforter that's on my bed is that down comforter, and the sheets are Lindell sheets.
SPEAKER_01That's good. Yeah, I it's I I found some pillows on Amazon that I like I like the the ones that are let cool your head. They're all like temperature transferring gel. So it's like you know, like the uh the freezer pack bags you can get that are kind of gel inside and then they freeze. Yeah. But this these are made of a similar substance, except you don't actually ever freeze them. Okay. But the entirety of the pillow essentially is a heatsink for your head. So it cools your head to a lower temperature.
SPEAKER_04You know, as skinny guys don't have that problem, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it's I don't think it's just a skinny guy thing. I I think that that is certainly I wouldn't call myself skinny.
SPEAKER_04I still need to get it.
SPEAKER_01Skinnier, right? But a part of it is just because I have to keep my house warmer for my pet reptiles. So I'm already running at like the comfortable edge of indoor temperature.
SPEAKER_04Where do you keep your house at?
SPEAKER_01I keep it at about 77.
SPEAKER_04Dude, my house stays at like 70.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know. And mine used to before I had reptiles.
SPEAKER_04Let them be sluggish.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. It's not good for them. They they need the warmth. And yes, they both have heaters, but the heaters get them up to significantly warmer temperatures. The uh, but keeping the house at about 76, 77 degrees and about 50% humidity is kind of right in their comfort level for where they would normally live.
SPEAKER_00But it's a little outside of a human comfort level.
SPEAKER_04So, did you see the New York elections?
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. New York is becoming freaking Taliban state here. It's it's communists, man.
SPEAKER_04Communists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, Tim actually had a good idea last night, and that's that the speaker of the House, when these people eventually get elected to Congress, should refuse to seat them.
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SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_04Because they're communists, they're avowed communists.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do we have a rule about not seating communists?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the Civil Rights Act doesn't protect communists, and there's a lot of other things. Like, I think there's some legitimate ground to say nope, you are not a qualified representative.
SPEAKER_01Well, I should protect it. We're getting there. We're getting there. Well, getting there in Texas, did you see that video in out of Houston where like one of the bridges was just completely covered in people in black clothing, male and female, jobs, yeah, and black flags. Yeah, it was exiting out of a mosque. Like a thousand people. Yeah. It was insane. There's over 76 what do you call them in here in Texas? Uh, mosques. Here in Texas. That is. I think it's more than that. Oh, maybe it's Dallas. Maybe Dallas, yeah, I think it is. Dallas has more than 76 mosques. Yep. So way more than that overall in Texas, which is crazy. Because again, the mistake that people seem to make is they throw Islam into the category of religion. It's not a fucking religion.
SPEAKER_04And I I had a great quote on X the other day that's a religion, but it's a religion that is that believes in conversion by force and also has a political system.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's the political system. So my my quote is that a lot of people like on X is Islam is a religion just like communism is a religion. They both enslave the majority to be controlled by a I can't remember what I said, but but basically by a small minority. By a yeah, I can't remember what I said. Can't quote myself. I need more vitamin B. But it was a lot of people agreed, man. A lot of people are liking it. It's true, and I think that's the same category it needs to belong in. Because frankly, if you look at the leftists in Antifa, to them, communism is the religion that they practice. There's no two ways about it. That they act exactly like communist religious zealots. And I I think Islam is much in the same category. It the majority of Muslim writing is writing about conquest and tactics. It is not about God, unlike both Christianity and Judaism. So it's a it's a very different system that certainly incorporates a religious belief, but I think on it just on its surface, it it is not like most other religions. It is a a full-blown like way of life prescription. Yeah. By the way, you could be a Christian and you could be capitalist or you could be, you know, Lutheran, which is say a socialistic type person. You could be a lot of things in a lot of different religions. You could be a Sikh and you know, you can have different political leadings.
SPEAKER_04Right, but one of the things Christianity does that really was the leap and move uh towards what the US is supposed to be is the idea of the sovereign, the sovereignty of each individual.
SPEAKER_03Right, right.
SPEAKER_04And that is a that is a uniquely Christian idea. Like that came from Christianity. Others may have adopted it, but the sovereignty of the individual is a originally Christian idea. And you can't be Christian without feeling that sovereignty.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't I don't think uh Roman Catholics would agree with you.
SPEAKER_04Like I said, you can't be Christian without a child.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, okay, okay, okay. In that definition of Christianity, yeah, I I see what you mean. Yeah, and that's the thing, is there there's it's fine to accept other people as being able to have other ideas to the point where those ideas don't trample yours. And this is the problem that we've had with communism. This is the same problem we've had with Islam. Is that part of those ideas that they have is to get rid of your religion and your political system and replace it with theirs.
SPEAKER_04Communism, you know, they're they want to replace the communism, the state has to become God.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. And that's why communist countries were atheist. Because you can't have a competing force there.
SPEAKER_04And it's all it's also interesting to note that when the USSR fell, Orthoda Russian Orthodox came back like gangbusters.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, it was very quickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. And it's a fairly high percentage of people that are you know church-going Christians in Russia right now. I don't remember off the top of my head what the percent is, but it's fairly high. I think it's it's it's maybe two or three places behind the US. And the US is at like one of the most religious countries for Christianity. Wow. It's hard to categorize uh the religiousness of countries where the state religion is a requirement, like in Saudi Arabia. Right. I mean, you can't really say, well, how religious is Saudi Arabia? Well, 100%.
SPEAKER_04So, real quick, the I found the the relevant bit from Justice Thomas's concurrence. Okay. Oh, okay, good. The second, even assuming jurisdiction, the equivalent protection claim falls to falls for the additional reason that aliens have no equal protection rights against the federal government. Boom.
SPEAKER_01Nice. Sorry. Yeah, no, it's good. It's good. Because I started going down the uh down to his other opinion and totally distracted you on that. So I'm glad you were able to track it down. Yeah. Yeah, I think overall that's been a pretty good week.
SPEAKER_04Did you see the the guy in Marseille, France, the 18-year-old immigrant sentenced to two and a half years?
SPEAKER_01The the the goat fucker or the other one? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04The goat fucker snuck onto a farm and raped five goats. And you know, I love habitual line crosser's point on this. If you don't want us to call you goat fuckers, don't
Europe Crime Stories And Public Anger
SPEAKER_04fuck the goats. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And do you okay? Just this is I don't understand. Let let's say you're okay with fucking goats, okay? Just let's say that's a given. Well, whatever. Why do you need to fuck five goats? How many times is a guy gonna come?
SPEAKER_04I mean, I mean you gotta give me a time period here, buddy.
SPEAKER_01Well, but okay, okay. So is this like he got he there was five goats over five years that he had sex with, or did they give you those details at all? No, I don't know the details. Because it it five goats just seems excessive. I mean, five women seems excessive, frankly. It's like, dude, you're you're gonna be worn out. Now, if it's over multiple years, I I get it. That's a different thing. But then, but then you gotta wonder why why didn't they prosecute him sooner if it was a long duration of time? Come on, you you missed my joke. Well, okay, sorry, sorry. What was your okay, what was your joke? I just think you're a lazy fucker. Oh, lazy, oh, because five five goats is too much work. Yeah, I'll you know, I'll do that.
SPEAKER_04Hey, say what you will. He put the work in, dude. He put the work in.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, yeah. I don't I don't get it. Now, granted, I've never had sex with a goat, so maybe maybe goats are awesome.
SPEAKER_04Allegedly, allegedly.
SPEAKER_01There's no allegedly there. I I don't have to say allegedly for myself. I actually know the facts, and I've never had sex with a goat. I've never even looked at a goat with that kind of thought in my head. Like they're just not that attractive. Now the main coon. The main coon, that's a cat, dude. Yeah. I've never fucked a cat either. I don't know what the hell kind of thoughts you're having, but my god. No, man. I just I think it's hilarious. Yeah, you know. Now, I will say, if there was like a hot-looking dolphin chick that was swimming somewhere where I was, and she was like into it, I mean I wouldn't rape the dolphin or anything, but the other dolphins do. No, that's that's on them, okay? We have to live in human society, but like I I get the whole uh you know the what are they called? Mermaid thing. I get it. They're dolphins. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Dude, have you seen some of the new videos coming out of Ireland? I don't think I've seen anything in the last couple days. What's the latest? Well, the one that I just saw is a group of Irish guys with machetes going into illegal migrant housing and telling get the fuck out.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, good for Ireland. What can I say? The guy in Edinburgh, dude.
SPEAKER_04Did you see that? The guy in Edinburgh, no. So a Scotsman in Edinburgh, using I forget the name of the knife, but it's a traditional knife, usually worn with a kilt that you're actually allowed to have in the UK. But it's not allowed to be sharp, mind you. It's not allowed to be sharp. He stabbed seven Muslims. Oh my god. Seven? Seven.
SPEAKER_01There again.
SPEAKER_04Giving them a taste of their own medicine, man.
SPEAKER_01Like, isn't like two or three enough? Why do you have to go seven?
SPEAKER_04Dude, some people put in the effort.
SPEAKER_01Maybe I am lazy. I'd I'd just stop at like three stabbings, probably.
SPEAKER_04Uh that poor guy is, you know, he's forfeited his life. He's gonna spend the rest of his life in jail.
SPEAKER_01Well, if the new government gets elected, he won't we'll get pardoned. Maybe.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I and I don't think the worst just stabbing random people. Just Muslims, I know. But when that's happened to your group of people, yeah, it starts to become understandable. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. By the way, did you have you gone through Rupert Lowe's rape gang report anymore at all? Nope.
SPEAKER_01Just I just read the summary of it.
SPEAKER_04It's worth a detailed read.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't seem like it'd be particularly uh pleasant. Oh no, it's horrific. Yeah, so why would I want to read that? I I get it.
SPEAKER_04I think it I think it should be mandatory reading for every UK citizen. I'm not a UK citizen. Right, but people need to understand the horrific nature of what is going on, and that this is not isolated. That quite frankly, Tommy Robinson was right. Like we need a Tommy Robinson was right jar as much as an Alex Jones was right jar at this point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I think Tommy Robinson. I don't I've never heard anything come out of his mouth that seemed crazy. I have heard crazy shit come out of Alex Jones' mouth, but nothing I've heard from Tommy Robinson I would ever classify as crazy. He he may have sometimes a little hot-headed, but that's really about it. Well, he's he's he's a hooligan.
SPEAKER_04There's no doubt he's a hooligan.
SPEAKER_01Well, but who isn't, you know? Yeah. Speaking of hooligans, did you see that Zelensky is saying that uh he may launch uh military starks strikes in Belarus next week?
SPEAKER_04That would be a mistake.
SPEAKER_01He's given them seven days to dismantle something before he strikes them. Well, but he's winning. But that's you know, he's winning. Why wouldn't he?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but do
Ukraine, Belarus, And Nuclear Escalation
SPEAKER_04you want Belarus coming in and aiding Russia and fighting you?
SPEAKER_01But Belarus isn't gonna do a whole lot. They're basically a staging ground for Russia, which is why he's threatening to bomb them. But I don't know. I mean, I I think I think it it would be actually it would suck for Belarus. It would probably be good in the long run. Because maybe some people finally start realizing that he's not some great hero hero of Ukraine, he is a exactly what Russia was saying they didn't want in their border 20 years ago. It's like telling somebody, yeah, but don't do this, okay, okay. And then doing exactly that. So I I I told you my opinion, or didn't I? I I think I did, right? About what what likely will happen is that there won't be any end to the Ukraine war until after Trump, until his term is done. When Trump's out of office. Oh, didn't I think that so this is my thought, right? So this is my prediction. Yeah, maybe I told Darren. We usually don't talk much politics, but maybe that we did last week. My prediction is that the Ukrainian war, nothing's gonna change until Trump's out of office. Once Trump is out of office, uh Russia Will then do what they need to do. And I don't mean that rhetorically, I mean like their bet their only real move at that point is to use nukes, which they will. And because as a nuclear powered superpower, if you have nukes and you don't use them, it's got the second largest collection of nuclear weapons in the world. It's a superpower. And you don't use them. It's an ex superpower. People are going to. Well, it'll be a much bigger superpower once they're used. Sure. If you don't use them, people are going to assume you're not going to use them. And then you get people acting the way that Iran is acting towards the US right now. Basically, you got a little polar country wagging the US by its tail called JD and ignoring any kind of threats posed against them because they they don't care. They're like, what are you going to do? Nuke us? You're not going to nuke us. You don't even have the popular support to invade us. What the hell? Why would be afraid of America? And you know what?
SPEAKER_04Maybe that should be what Trump does next time they fire something at a cargo ship. I think so. Drop a small nuke on Apache Desert.
SPEAKER_01I think we need to normalize the nukes. If we you remember how quickly World War II ended, well, the the Japanese portion of the war ended for us once the nukes were used. Yeah, I mean, it only took destroying two major cities, but you know, it didn't come anywhere near destroying two major cities. I was there. I I saw it. It's a very, very small impact. Now, those were obviously much smaller nukes than what we currently use.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was pretty good devastation, and those were single bombs.
SPEAKER_01They were tiny. Yeah, I've I've been to Hiroshima. I I went through that entire area. There are buildings that were two blocks away that still stand today. It was a very small nuclear blast. Yeah, they weren't big, big bombs. No, they weren't fires because Japan used a lot of wood in their construction, so there was massive fires that resulted. And obviously there was a spread of radiation, which resulted in a lot of birth defects and things like that, abortions, etc., for Japanese women.
SPEAKER_04But but they were fairly minor. You know, when you set the sun off on a country a couple of times, you end up with anime.
SPEAKER_01That's true too. Yeah, that's a good thing. Well, tentacle porn, I suspect, exists before nukes.
SPEAKER_04I don't think so.
SPEAKER_01Given the Japanese pre election for it, I think that was around even before.
SPEAKER_04Fuck Americans, dude.
SPEAKER_00There's even a whole studio. Like it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Some people are really into the tentacles. I mean, I guess goats for some people, tentacles for other people. Go figure.
SPEAKER_04Oh, hey, and then and then they're the Germans. Oh, you think you're kinky. Oh, fucking Germans. All right. So to end on a high note, America beat Australia in the World Cup. Yeah. Our boys are in the world.
SPEAKER_01I didn't realize we had a good one.
SPEAKER_04Number one right now in the group D.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and somebody was uh one of the videos I watched, they they kind of gave a warning. They're like, you know, this great high that America is on, and having all the Europeans talking about how awesome
World Cup Talk And Sports Culture
SPEAKER_01America is, and then they've been lied to, and the food is great, and everything's great. You all want to just ruin that by winning the World Cup? Is that what you all want to do? Yes. Apparently, we've decided that yeah, we're we're gonna we're gonna actually take this thing from Europe. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, and we're playing Turkey tonight here at nine, so it'll be interesting.
SPEAKER_01I don't think I'll watch it, but I didn't watch the game, but I heard that the Iran game, there was some controversy with lesbian flags or gay flags or whatever. On the content. Well, like they didn't want those flags flown. Okay, and and the games in Seattle. And Seattle's pretty fucking gay. Yep. So apparently they were still flying the gay flags. Yeah, I wonder why Bill Gates lives there. I don't think he's lived there for 20 years, dude. He still lives in Redmond. No, no, no. He has a house there. He's mostly uh got his own private island, dude. Yes, he does have a house there. That's his ex-wife's house.
SPEAKER_04Oh, is that the one um Melinda got? Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing if the if they win, you know. I again I I'm not into soccer, so I'm probably not gonna watch the game. But who knows?
SPEAKER_01I don't watch the highlights.
SPEAKER_04If they keep winning and actually get into like a semifinal or something like that, I might have to watch a couple.
SPEAKER_01Well, I know that the Irish are definitely all rooting for the US now because they're not in it anymore. Yeah, I mean, but the Irish now they're they're all they're all like you know, USA USA.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Because they just need an excuse to drink. That's really what it comes down to. Yep. The team, yeah, that's secondary. But yeah, I would I didn't realize that the US team was this good.
SPEAKER_04So well, I mean press come on, we've beaten Paraguay and Australia so far.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but Paraguay is in South America where they like they're they're not considered a great team, and then Australia Australia is considered a much better team.
SPEAKER_04In fact, we weren't favored in that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh exactly. And and Australia, you know, granted they also play rugby, but like soccer is a big thing out there. European football. Hey, rugby is a fun sport to play. Rugby is a fun sport to watch. I would much rather watch rugby than American football. The games take about a third as long. There's you know, that there's a lot less protection, so people have to play a lot more intelligently.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that's one of the battery rams. Yeah, that's one of my criticisms of football. I think all the protective gear. It's like boxing. Yeah, like MMA doesn't have the head trauma that boxing does. And part of the main reason is the gloves. You're wearing an extremely lightweight glove. You cannot hit someone as hard with that lightweight glove or you will break your hand. Your hand with a big boxing glove, exactly, it's totally different.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like bare knuckle boxing is bloody, but it's not nearly as like life-altering injury dangerous as actual just 16-ounce glove boxing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. Totally agreed.
SPEAKER_04And football's the same way, you know. I think we ought to go back to leather pads, you know, and yeah, leather elements. Yeah, and then you gotta really you can't launch yourself at someone and hit them at full speed because you know how it's gonna feel.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Self-preservation kicks in. Although, you know, with the current generation of kids, maybe they they just lack that gene. The whole self-preservation gene that that the rest of us have. It's it's hard to say. I mean, again, I think this is where bullies come in. It's like when you when you develop that gene by dealing with bullies, you have it for the rest of your life. It's like an inoculation. When you're constantly pampered and like have helicopter parents that make sure that nothing bad ever happens to you, you don't get to develop that immunity.
Rough Play, Airsoft, And Paintball Days
SPEAKER_01So it's I don't think children need to be treated as little miniature adults. You don't just poop out a kid and let them figure shit out on their own, but at the same time, we've gone the opposite direction way too far.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you've got to have a little bit of free range there. You know, you've got to let them make mistakes and get hurt, and that's where rough and tumble play is really important because kids need to understand their limits and oh, this is gonna hurt.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And that this is why games like paintball and uh what's the one they play these days? It's not paintball, it's airsoft. Airsoft. Like these are great things that I think more people should be into because it it immediately connects decision making to pain.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you feel a sting, although I don't know how much of a sting you really feel from airsoft.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, man. I mean, I'm sure it's less than paintball because the weight of those pellets is way less.
SPEAKER_04You know what? I would love to go to one of the Milsom things.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Like actual Milsom? Well, you got to know me too late because I I could have made that happen for free for you like 15 years ago. Even even probably 10 years ago, but I can't anymore.
SPEAKER_04Well, sure, but like that's something I would like to do, you know, is but then I look at the cost of uh some gear I've got, right? Like I can use my actual gear for, but to get the guns and the this and the that, yeah. It's expensive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you can you can rent that stuff. I mean, you don't have to get it, you just need the clothes basically. Everything else is you can get you don't have to own it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I uh like paintball. The ammo is expensive too. I I went very deep into paintball for a while. You know, like my friends and I in high school literally, you know, they had over a thousand acres, so we took a little 10-acre spot and build up bunkers and all that, and that was where we in in a little bit of a wooded area. Yeah. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01I got into paintball actually pretty late in life. I was in my mid-20s. And so I actually had money, which, you know, in college I wouldn't have. And so I was going out playing paintball two days every week. And going through about 150 bucks in ammo every week. And I had the God, what was the brand name? I had the mini mag, if that rings the bell at all. It may have been before your time too much. But it was a a very very good gun at the time. And the angel just came out close to when I stopped playing. Do you remember the angel or is that also before your time? Before my time. That was all before your time, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's yeah, I had a spider. I've still got it in the garage.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, spider's usually with all the rental places carried.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, I mean I I was running a nitrogen setup with a back tank. I was probably about 1500 bucks when I got everything. And it was a blast playing, and and after the first year, I I basically played in just like a ghillie suit over a t-shirt. I I didn't have a whole lot of panning on there. I just learned how to evade. And one of my favorite activities was getting to shoot guys in the back. Yeah. Because I I crawled on my stomach through mud and water and stuff to get behind them and and then take out a group of defenders that way.
SPEAKER_04I got shot in the neck a couple days before prom. Oh. And and it looked like a big old hickey on my neck. And people, I showed up, and people were like, ah, man, already, you know.
SPEAKER_01Like, no, uh fucking paintball. You don't say no, you hell yeah. You see?
SPEAKER_04No, no, because that prom year was the year I took my cousin's friend because she didn't have a date and would have not been my primary choice.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I gotcha. But yeah, paintball was a blast. I enjoyed it. The the ammo was definitely expensive. I mean, the guns were not cheap, but it was at least a one-time purchase. But once you start getting going regularly, I I was spending more on paintball ammo than I was on actual lead ammo. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good times.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01We had a couple of people chime in with questions, comments, etc., for us. And the what is that thing called? The the fan line or whatever. Fan fan mail. Fan mail, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm glad people are using that. That is a quick, easy, free way to get to that on the website, by the way.
SPEAKER_04You signed in to BuzzFrout. How do you get to it? Or what are you asking?
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SPEAKER_04Yeah, and if you're not using the BuzzFrout app, which that I know how to do, but how do you get to fan mail on the it's in there somewhere?
SPEAKER_01I I'd have to look it up, but it's in there somewhere. But for people that want to send the messages, some of the apps on the phones have that capability to just use that link to send them to us. Otherwise, you can do it through a web browser if you just go to just togoodoldboys.com, which lists all the episodes, and then from whatever the latest episode is, you can leave comments, fan mail, whatever you want to call it there. One thing we're gonna do shortly here. Actually, I'm gonna post it right after this, is a recipe that Ben talked about, and we never posted previously. So we'll go ahead and post a well, it was a venison tacos.
SPEAKER_04It's two recipes. Okay. So it's my venison grape leaves that I call deer dolma. Not tacos, yeah. Yeah, so but in that I call for using my mom and dad's deer pan sausage. So I've also got in there the pan sausage recipe. Cool. Or at least you should have put that, but I'm not saying that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I copied and pasted the whole thing that you did there.
SPEAKER_04Uh there was a second text that you didn't.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Well, so split it up, maybe. Anyway, so yeah, keep asking questions if you have any or comments, or just tell us we're wrong, which you know, I know we're not, but sometimes maybe Ben is.
SPEAKER_04But and it was good to hear from everybody on you know some of the back stuff people talking about and what their experience has been and everything else. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01We talked in an episode episode and mentioned my experience with the the gravity table thing, the hanging upside down by your legs thing. And we I think we had more than one person comment about how it they they use it and it worked as well. And I know one of the comments was don't buy a cheap one. Yep, that was for you.
SPEAKER_04Yep, yep, yep. I said I saw it, I saw it. Uh-huh. All right.
SPEAKER_01You got anything else, or are we gonna wrap up here?
SPEAKER_04No, I think we wrap up and uh take a bio break and then we can record that other bit too.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds like a plan. I will catch you. I'll I'll catch you in a few minutes, and then after that, I'll catch you next week. Thanks, Ben.
SPEAKER_04Alright, see ya. One howdy everybody, it's Ben. These are some family recipes that I really like, and I hope y'all do too.
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