The Readirect Podcast
Shifting the conversation back to books. Hosted by Abigail Freshley and Emily Rojas.
The Readirect Podcast
Reading Rewind: The Magic Treehouse by Mary Pope Osborne
Today we're revisiting Mary Pope Osborne's Magic Treehouse series for a Reading Rewind episode!
PLUS: Is Stephanie Meyer going to release a Jacob and Renesmee sequel for the 20th anniversary of the Twilight saga?
And personal updates from Emily & Abigail to round out the episode. Stay tuned to the end for a plethora of book recommendations.
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Welcome to the Redirect Podcast. My name is Abigail Freshly and.
Speaker 2:I'm Emily Rojas. The Redirect Podcast is a show where we shift the conversation back to books. We discuss themes from some of our favorite books and how those themes show up in our real live experiences.
Speaker 1:On today's episode we are throwing it back. Reading rewind to the Magic Treehouse books by Mary Osborne.
Speaker 2:But first, before we get into that, if you want to join the show, we would love for you to support the podcast in a few simple ways. First, you can go on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and leave us a five-star review and let us know how much you love the show.
Speaker 1:You can also follow us on Instagram and Blue Sky at Redirect Podcast and, if you really really love the show, share our show with our friends. Sharing our show with a friend is by far the best way to help us grow our community of book-loving nerds. Yay, yay, we're back. Okay, I'm just looking at the outline here. What is personal news from Emily?
Speaker 2:Okay, this is really exciting.
Speaker 1:So last week we actually didn't talk about this, but I did like a nervous like I don't know what this news is, and you're one of my best friends.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is news to tell you, really. Okay, so last week we talked about our goals, or last whatever, two weeks ago, and there was one goal of mine that I didn't mention, but I have now achieved, which is I have a library card. Oh my god, and I needed to tell you, and I'm no longer a hypocrite.
Speaker 1:I actually have tears coming to the back of my eyes.
Speaker 2:As you should, I did it.
Speaker 1:What was that experience like? So you had to go in person, yes, to the library. You can bleep it out if you don't want people to know. Cobb County Library yeah, cobb.
Speaker 2:County Library. The library in me is super cool, I will say like genuinely. I know it's lame, but it is sometimes really hard for me to do things where I don't know what the rules are gonna be and like where to park and who do I talk to, and so, anyways, I went in. They were super nice, I got a library card and also libraries are amazing, which I already knew. But also, if you guys haven't been to a library in a while, they have these self-checkout things now that are so cool. You just stack the books up and it just knows what's there. Yeah, amazing. So they also have, like, great books.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I checked out a few, and now you can be free to check out whatever you want without your mom seeing it exactly no longer have to share an account with my mom on libby, although this library gives less checkouts and less holds than the one my mom and I shared, so might still sneak over there every once in a while, but sure, um, the in-person selection was great, like so many books that probably have month-long waiting lists on libby are just there. So you guys go get a library card, go to the library in person.
Speaker 1:It is the same in LA. Sometimes I'm like, okay, wait, let me just go on the website and check and see if it's actually there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there it is.
Speaker 1:That is so exciting. I'm really happy for you.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:The magic of the library also is you have a third location. Yes, also is you have um a third location yes, a space to go, place you can go when you want to just like be really quiet. Yeah, great air conditioning, or they have events, totally, or I don't know. Sometimes it's just like you want the vibe of leaving your house to go to a coffee shop but you don't want to spend money there, you go. Welcome to the library, totally there's nothing to buy at the library, literally zero dollars.
Speaker 2:Yes, and great news, my library checks out puzzles, which I was really excited to find out. And, um my library, it's amazing, they had like a whole full row of puzzles. So I have a backlog of puzzles currently, but I will be, you know, checking back in once I need more puzzles um to complete. So, yeah, I'm really excited about it wow, that is amazing personal news, thank you, thank you, I was. I almost texted you.
Speaker 1:I was like, no, I want to save this for the podcast, I know, there's like several things unrelated to the actual content of this episode. I can't wait to tell you yeah I've been saving.
Speaker 1:But, um, this one I did tell you a little bit, but I guess personal news for me, yeah, sure is sure Is I finally got my husband, zachary D***, freshly to read the Will of the Many by James Islington. Yes, and chat, how's it going? It was extremely satisfying. Did he finish it already? Oh, he finished it. Oh, wow, and I like we spent a lot of time. I feel like him. First of all, he like borrowed my Kindle to read it. He was like he was like reading it on his phone. And then he's like wait, hold on, I gotta like I gotta get serious about this. So he borrowed my Kindle. I was like doing a puzzle listening to an audio book and then, like every few minutes I would hear or no. And he loved it. And then he was like can you see about the other series? Are you, have you already pre-ordered?
Speaker 2:the next book. So basically, so you guys are gonna be fighting when that book comes out. I just said we're ordering two copies whatever, but I felt so justified.
Speaker 1:There's nothing like. I have been begging him to read this book for a year because I haven't known that he would love it and he just was like too much work. Meanwhile, he reads like 500 000 words a day on fan fiction, on look, look, look, look in this defense.
Speaker 2:I do feel like I don't know why, but reading on ao3 is different than reading a book.
Speaker 1:The effort, Meanwhile he's just like always on his little phone reading fan fiction, whatever. So he finally read this book and wow, I just, you know, I was like all right, well, I deserve right now to hear for like 10 minutes effusive praise on the way that I was right about this and that you were wrong for waiting so long to read it. So maybe less exciting, but but no, that's great exciting to me. No, that's personal news I.
Speaker 2:That book to me is like such a zach book, so the fact that he wouldn't read it until now. But good for him, because he gets to finish that and know that in like just a few months he can read the sequel versus like a full year that we had to wait.
Speaker 1:So by the way, he was like can I come on the podcast to talk about the next? Oh, absolutely. And I was like, if you read it in time, yeah, you have to read it in time. That's the key, okay great personal news on all fronts, on all accounts, yes, so exciting is this just gonna be like actually a uh book talk episode?
Speaker 2:somewhat, because I do feel like the reading rewinds, like they don't take as much time, so we can beef it up with some more there's so much to talk about in the book world.
Speaker 1:So that's what it is yeah yeah okay, the next bullet here on our outline renez may book baiting by stephanie meyer 20th anniversary. She's baiting us. That's why it says so she knows a little context here she knows what she's doing yes, you and I actually looked into going to this event. We did.
Speaker 2:It's been sold out, we did because, also, we also predicted a run. If this happens, play it back. Uh, once the announcement happens, play back our prediction when she updated her website. There is a quote on so she has like a new website now and there's a quote on the website that is not. There's like several quotes all over the website as part of the design and they're all from books that she has published, most of them from the twilight and twilight adjacent books, some from like the host, but there's one quote that does not exist currently in any of her published books and we predicted earlier this year, I think, or at the end of last year, that this quote would be in a yet to be released, jacob and renais may book. It's the 20th anniversary. She's announced every like major anniversary. She's announced a new book. To this point, she did.
Speaker 1:She did life and death, yeah and then she did midnight sun and so um we're here. The quote is I'm going to be wherever you are.
Speaker 2:You'll get used to it like what else could that be?
Speaker 1:people. Also, I just want to say to the people who cross verified that these quotes were not in her existing work great work.
Speaker 2:Thank you for that. I love you so much, I would never.
Speaker 1:I love you so much and you are the kind of person that's really important. You are the chosen one. Yeah, because you are actually holding our society together with like glue and tape. You are the reason I get up every day. Thank you for your work.
Speaker 2:So now there's a new development, which is that Stephanie Meyer has officially announced that she will be at TwilightCon.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Yeah, you're skipping. Something important Is that it's on September 11th. Literally what a better day for a Jacob and Renesmee book to be announced than on the anniversary of 9-11.
Speaker 2:And canonically. The more things I find out that are canon, like Carlisle being in his 20s. This is another horrifying one that, canonically, renesmee's birthday is 9-11, which is insane. Like you, control this world, you made this?
Speaker 1:Do you know that it's legal for it to not be on 9-11? Do you know that, like, if you called up the organizers of the Twilight Fest and you were like, were like, hey, can we do this, not on 9-11, they'd be like sure queen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, but we can do it on another weekend, like no? She like she made renee's birthday 9-11. She did for some reason. So anyways, I believe it now sick person I can, I say this yeah, she is.
Speaker 1:I was explaining this to zach the other day, yeah, because I was like, if there's a jacob and renee book, will you read it?
Speaker 2:and he was like, yes yeah, exactly like that's the correct, I was showing him tiktok.
Speaker 1:So I was explaining this to him and then we saw like a headshot, a recent headshot of stephanie meyer, and he was like hold up who's shorty? And I was like that is stephanie meyer. And he was like, oh, let me see what she's talking about really quick I'm like you're not allowed to have a crush.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's insane. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, zach you know that's crazy. He's like I don't know like she's gonna get like going on. I'm like please god she's a sick, sick person, like the whole thing is.
Speaker 2:I don't know why she would willingly write a jacob and renaz may spinoff. I don't know why she would willingly write a Jacob and Renesmee spinoff. I don't know why she would choose to engage in that discourse that she already created in an insane way, but will.
Speaker 1:I read it. Why does she choose to do anything? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I will read it though.
Speaker 1:I will read it. I will pay money for it. I'll be there, I'll be reading it. We will recap it on this podcast. But, but like I don't want to, I don't want to do it. You know, like, do you think, okay, if there is a jacob and renez may book, uh-huh, do you think that it's gonna pick up like a few after the events of breaking dawn, or do you think it's gonna be like a, a flash forward, like are we gonna have, like kid renez may, I can't jacob content?
Speaker 2:I, I don't know, um, so, like in the canon world again, renez may will be. Here's my thing. She'll be fully grown within two to three years but like, all right, like, so you're dating a three-year-old, just because physically and mentally I guess she fully, but like she's three, like is that? Is that chills, but like I don't know, like I don't know, it makes me sick. It makes me sick because you know what? She could have just like done something interesting with Leah, who's like a tragic figure who deserves to be happy, but instead she made Jacob imprint on Renesmee. I don't see how this is chill. I don't see how she writes it in a way that is not very problematic, but oh, it's going to be horrifying. I do look forward to reading it.
Speaker 1:So I'm sorry. Well, now I'm going to be so disappointed if it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:It's too bad that Ali Hazelwood already released problematic summer romance Cause. That would have made a really good title for this.
Speaker 1:I, because that would have made a really good title for this. I know I am, I'm so scared and then like also, are we gonna get like edward dad content? Honestly, that that excites me. Wait, stephanie meyer, if you're listening, if you haven't already included like a lot of charlie content that would be the thing that would save me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, redeem this could redeem the book. Yeah, if we could get oh my god, what if we got like a charlie and sue subplot? I'd be happy with that. Why don't you know what? Why don't you just release a charlie and sue clearwater novel?
Speaker 2:like a novella, doing just even a short. How do we beat that up? Or?
Speaker 1:again, because like give charlie is one of the only people in this universe who deserves happiness yes, yes, totally agree, yes, so do that for more thoughts on our thoughts about the twilight universe, see several previous episodes regarding it.
Speaker 2:I know we've, we've done.
Speaker 1:Uh, we've we did life and death and we did twilight I was thinking like what could we do for the 20th anniversary?
Speaker 2:but if she does announce a book, that's what we'll do, like the, yeah, like we love twilight in a hateful way. But, um, what if? What?
Speaker 1:if we existed in a timeline, in a few months, when we got a Jacob and Renesmee book and either well, I guess direct TV does not exist but um debut, we got TS 12. Yes, and Jacob Renesmee book at the same time. You know what I mean. That's all happening.
Speaker 2:Do you think if she announces it, she's going to announce it, and then it comes out like, like immediately or do you think it's going to be a lead-up?
Speaker 1:that would be so chaotic of her that maybe she would just like immediate okay, it's available tomorrow. There will only be for desmond jacobs wait, wait, okay, what would it be called?
Speaker 2:It's going to be something dumb. So we have Midnight Sun, we have Life and Death, we have Twilight.
Speaker 1:It's probably something culturally offensive and Let me see if Google has any or if, like, reddit has any ideas.
Speaker 2:The wolf and his girl, you know.
Speaker 1:Predictions for name of jacob. It's gonna be something, whatever we could think of it would be worse.
Speaker 2:Correct it will be bad, I'm scared will it be omega verse she, she's not nearly interesting enough to do that like it's not gonna be good, not that like it would be good if it was omega verse, but imagine she reveals that she's like actually the werewolves all along wait, and also, would this book be set in like 2008, right?
Speaker 2:I don't see how there is a massive time jump, because what plot, unless unless it's like they're in an established relationship, but like the whole line, I'm gonna be wherever you are, you'll get used to it that feels like it has to be them falling in love for the first time. So there can't be too much of a time jump because he's just always going to be there like that's the whole deal. So I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm stressed out I feel like hot right I know, I feel really uncomfortable, like a little bit nervous, okay let's get into the magic tree house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we were like, okay, we haven't done a reading rewind in a while, totally, totally and yeah.
Speaker 1:So, emily, what is your history with the Magic Treehouse books? Do you have any history? What is their context?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely read these books as a kid.
Speaker 1:Like how many do you think? There are 110.
Speaker 2:Probably all of the original series. So there's the original series, then there's the Merlin mysteries, then's like, uh, some other spinoffs, and then there's some non-fiction books. I don't think I've read any of the non-fiction ones, um, but the original series, which I think is like 28 or so, um, I'm sure I've read all of those. Okay, and the merlin ones I do remember especially liking those. They're a little longer. I started one of the merlin ones for this episode, um, but I do remember especially liking those. They're a little longer. I started one of the merlin ones for this episode, um, but I do remember especially liking like when they went to camelot and like we're working with the, the merlin and morgan lefay, and so I remember like I really, really liked those, and I remember liking the regular series. You know all right, but they are quite young. I was probably very young reading them because the reading level is very basic. So, yeah, that's my experience with them.
Speaker 1:I remember loving them, yeah, what about you? Well, I think I read a few of them, maybe like a couple, I don't know. There was always kids in my class and in my peer group reading them. I, I mean, if I'm sure that I read a few, did they make a huge impression on me? No, they did not, okay, but it was. So I was basically coming back to it with like adult eyes, sure, um, reading. And so I picked up the first and the second one. So that's dinosaurs before dark and the night before night before dawn. Uh, k, n, I, g, h, t, yeah, and um, yeah, I thought it was. I, I get it. They are really cute and fun and there's like a couple of things going on. So, like reading it as an adult, it's like, ah, the message here is like maybe they weren't actually going to all these places. It's just the magic of reading a book can make you feel.
Speaker 2:Sure sure.
Speaker 1:So yeah, for those of you who don't know, Jack and Annie are a brother and sister duo. Uh-huh, jack is a king, he is smart, he is responsible, yes, and Annie is all on that bullshit. She is classic youngest sibling, correct, always being a pain making irresponsible decisions. Jack, my heart goes out to you. That was the number one thing that came out to me as I was like God, annie, like, just like, listen to your brother.
Speaker 2:He's saying maybe don't run at the dinosaur.
Speaker 1:Correct, I'm just it activated. I get it the older sibling like sleeper cell in me, yeah, and I felt like rage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that. I felt rage. That's an appropriate response yeah.
Speaker 1:So they are in the woods one day and they stumble across a treehouse. Pause, are you going in the treehouse? Yeah, for sure at this age. Yeah, absolutely not. I'm sitting there like I got to that point, the decision point, and annie's like let's go up the treehouse and jack was like hey, we don't know whose treehouse that is and also what if there's like a create like even when I was a kid, I and also, what if there's like a like?
Speaker 1:even when I was a kid, I probably would have thought what if there's like a crazy like witch up there?
Speaker 2:Abigail, we used to hang out in Emma's neighborhood graveyard. I feel like a treehouse. If it looks in good condition, you wouldn't have climbed up and just peeked in there.
Speaker 1:I just feel like I would have been like I don't know if it was like in someone's yard or something.
Speaker 2:But if you're just in a, like a public forest, even worse even worse.
Speaker 1:I would like at least like throw something up there first to see, yeah, yeah, if anyone's in there.
Speaker 2:I would make someone else, I would make emma climb up there and look in the door and make sure no one's in there and that it's safe. But like I would have explored it and he's just like let me get on the ladder, yes, which, by the way, it's probably rotten. The whole thing is whatever you need an annie friend, though, that's what I'm saying. No, she brings balance, because otherwise jack he's just sitting at home.
Speaker 1:No jack is doing his research well and finding out if things are safe, and also he's the one who's always getting them out of situations because he's like well, let me actually read the book and find out how to get out of the save us castle correct anyway. So they go up into this tree house and there's hella books up there and they're all from different places and the place that they live is like called like frog forest or something yeah, in pennsylvania and there's like a book for that one but then there's a bunch of other books too, um, about like castles and dinosaurs and all kinds of books.
Speaker 1:So if you open, they discover that if you open the book, you and like you wish that you were there. You say like, oh man, I wish I was there. You get transported there, yes, so this is like a cute metaphor for like a book can take you anywhere yeah, it's cute um, I would personally be freaking out if I got sucked into a book and all of a sudden, I was in dinosaur land yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, correct, so Jack had the correct response here.
Speaker 1:Yes, and he's just like hee, hee, hee, like, let's go pet dinosaurs. Like you have two brain cells in your head. I would just be like, sorry, I'm going home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I wish I was home. I wish I was home, I wish I was home.
Speaker 1:Yes, so that's basically what happens, like in all of the books. Um, then they find a medallion when they're in the dinosaur land that has an M on it that belongs to some, a serious person they don't know. Yeah, um, and basically Annie is always convincing Jack to go back to this tree house and go on different, go to different places, and then she gets them into trouble, yeah, cause she's never actually read a book in her life, so she doesn't actually know about any of the danger in the world. She's just relying on her older brother to take care of her and make sure that she can get all of all of her nonsense. Okay, I think I had a different experience with annie. Okay, what's your experience with annie?
Speaker 2:because she was very nice in my book. Okay, I get it. I get it. She's grown up. I read later books in the series, so so I read in full the one book I read. Hold on, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I want to get the number book that is in the series. Okay, it's the 21st book in the original series, civil War on Sunday, and I picked this because I figured if there's any problematic stuff, it's going to come out in this book In the Civil War and luckily guys, you're to report report.
Speaker 2:This is safe to read with your kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mary pope osborne seems like she's with it.
Speaker 2:She seems chill um, yeah, the books were inspired, I guess, by her travels around the world. That's what I learned and she, like, wanted to teach kids about stuff, so, anyways, um, so we're on sunday, the same thing, the lights flashing, a treehouse appears. They go in the middle of this book. They're in the middle of a story arc where they're trying to help morgan lefay, this magician, save camelot, which is a place that they have visited in a prior book. Um, and so morgan sends him a note with the treehouse, and she's like the one in charge of the magic treehouse and she's the one who owns the medallion yeah, she's the medallion owner.
Speaker 2:um, she sends him a note and says they need to find four things Something to follow, something to send, something to learn and something to lend. Apparently, if they find these things in writing, then they can bring it to her and that will save Camelot. Somehow. I don't really know how magic works. Anyways, they find a book on the civil war and they're like okay, great fun. And so they go back in time to the civil war and they do land this was the first good sign among union soldiers, so they are stephanie meyer, take note yeah, jasper's not there.
Speaker 2:He's on the other side of the battlefield. So they land with those union army um and they're in a field hospital in Virginia outside of a battle and things are bad. And Annie's like we can help Like we can help Because they read in the book that women yeah, yeah, okay, that didn't piss you off. No, because they read in the book that women served as nurses during the war. This was the first war where women worked as nurses. Before then it was all men.
Speaker 1:And during the war, this was the first war where women worked as nurses before then it was all men and she was like this is great, we could be of help.
Speaker 2:Let's go volunteer and jack's, like we are kids, you dumbass.
Speaker 1:She's like my man, my freaking man.
Speaker 2:So then they um, this lady, this random nurse lady, gives him a list of things like again, this is like okay, this is not really helpful, lady. But she's like here's how to be helpful as a nurse. And the list says it's not like how to do cpr. It says be cheerful less than sorrow, give, give hope, be brave, put aside your own feelings and don't give up. And jack's like that doesn't seem helpful. Which okay, fair, fair. Also he says oh, brother, all the time, that's like his catchphrase.
Speaker 2:He's like oh sister yeah, he's got the blame wrong. Um, okay, so then they go into a tent and they're helping, they're giving lunch to the soldiers so they have like water and like bread and potatoes or whatever. And then the second tent they go to is all black soldiers and the soldiers are super grateful. They're like thank you for feeding us. And then they learn about slavery because one of the um guys is like oh, he's like, jack's like trying to help. He's really nervous and like shy and he's like scared to say anything. But finally he's like don't worry, you're gonna be back with your family soon. And the guy's like, oh, I don't have a family anymore, like they sold them. And he's like what they sold them. And he's like, yeah, actually I was a former slave and I came here to um. Like I ran all the way here barefoot to let them know that the confederate army was coming and now I fight for them. And they're like, oh, period, and so then then jack's like okay, I can do this, I can do this, like I can give him hope. And he says this actually made me choke up. He says, um, one day your great great grandchildren will be doctors, they'll be lawyers, they'll be teachers, they'll be principals and like one day your people will be free. And like he tells himself and the guy's like, can you tell the future? And he's like kind of, and so, and the guy's like, thank you so much, like I needed to hear that. And it was really like oh, my god.
Speaker 2:Um, then they meet cl Barton. So that's like a thing. They meet a lot of historical figures in these books, and this one, annie's like she's kind of smart. She's like hey, jack, you don't know who Clara Barton is, you idiot. And so then Clara takes them to the battlefield and they're like we got to go pick up some injured people. And so they pick up some injured people and they pick up some injured people and they pick up a union soldier and a confederate soldier and they're like is this okay? And clara says like, basically, things aren't that simple. You know we're gonna help who we can. If there's someone injured, we're gonna help them, which I'm like okay. Well, you know like how far I get it. And then she says this is a cool people.
Speaker 1:If they were like, leave them on the field but it's just little guys.
Speaker 2:They're both like young kids and she says all worlds are cruel. People feel they must fight for causes they believe in. But they soon discover that war is not about glory and fame, it's about misery. Misery and terrible pain and sadness. I was like, whoa, this is looking very deep for a children's book.
Speaker 2:Um, so then the last thing they do is they take care of this drummer boy and they learn about drummer boys, which apparently the civil war was the last board that drummer boys fought in, and I didn't know that. And, um, they're like this drummer boy looks just like you, jack, and he's like I know he could be my brother. And then they go back, they help them and they get the. The list of to-dos is the thing to help, which is like step one, um, or something to follow. That's the first thing warren with fey asked for. So they're like, okay, we needed this.
Speaker 2:And then they decide to go home. Clara's like yeah, it's time for you to go home. And, um, they go back in the treehouse and then they get home. They're like dad, did we ever have any relatives fight in the civil war? Which I'm like these, these parents must be like there is something seriously wrong with our kids, because they leave and they come back and they ask the weirdest questions but their dad's like, yeah, actually, our, your great, great great grandfather john was a drummer boy in the civil war. They're like, oh my god, you guys, that was him, we took care of him and their minds blown. And I'm like, okay, why does a dad know this off the top of his head?
Speaker 1:I don't know, because dads love Civil War history that's so true Genealogy and stuff. One of the paths you can choose when you become a dad is like-.
Speaker 2:That's so true, like thrilling and smoking meats.
Speaker 1:Yeah Like World War II or Civil War history. Or like secret third option, like fishing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So true.
Speaker 2:Okay. So yeah, that was the book and I thought it was really fun. I was very surprised, like I I mean it. It was kind of like intense about the war, like there was descriptions of their injuries and people dying, and it was very frank about slavery and, um, I liked the quote about wars being cruel and like people think they are fighting what they believe in and really it's like all kind of wait, which one is this.
Speaker 2:This is civil war on sunday, um, and also it does loki have some bad reviews on story graph from people being like this is kind of woke for little kids they didn't say it.
Speaker 1:Exactly like that magic tree horse civil war on sunday book ban. Let's see if it's ever been challenged.
Speaker 2:It probably has, Because someone was like this is a really oversimplified explanation of the war, that the North didn't want slavery and the South didn't. I'm like okay, but you know, that's kind of the thing, lady.
Speaker 1:Especially.
Speaker 2:MG. It has been banned.
Speaker 1:No, well, I don't know, but the first thing that came up was in our homeschool.
Speaker 2:There's a whole thread about Magic Treehouse. Here's the original post. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:I keep reading that these books are great and then that they are awful. From my research, the things I've seen about what is bad about them is that one the kids lie to their parents and sneak out to have a picture.
Speaker 2:That's fair. They do sneak out.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Two, that there are some creationism stuff kind of slid in, that's just confusing and not historically accurate, but this seems that it's really educational about certain historical topics and it seems for easy for kids to follow. Please share your opinions. Okay Okay. People talk about like the sneaking out whatever that's not that big.
Speaker 2:I feel like I felt like this was educate more, educational narnia, honestly yeah, yeah, or like um dragon tales, like the show, similar kind of thing. Like they're, these two kids are transported somewhere. It's not that big of a deal, it's not. Yeah, like chill. But yeah, some people in the reviews on storygraph didn't love this one clearly I don't.
Speaker 1:People are like what creationism stuff? I don't think there's any creationism. What about in the dinosaur? In the dinosaur one?
Speaker 2:it was just, it said 65 million years ago so maybe she means anti-creationism, because that's like uh, I think that's what, maybe what they would not concur with that, but it specifically was like this is I don't want to go someplace.
Speaker 1:That's 65 million years in the past and there was no humans. It was just dinosaurs walking around she's like that's not historically accurate. Actually the earth is 10 000 years old um yeah, I mean, I could see this being, if you were a homeschool parent, this being an interesting this seems like very um, like almost like waldorf-y. Like in waldorf schools they pick like a whole you know like time period and then everything you learn in all of your subjects is like about that time period.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah I could see that yeah I feel like it was.
Speaker 2:I mean, like I said, I learned about the drummer boy thing. I read part of the one about abe lincoln. Unfortunately that is a merlin mystery one and those are quite long or a bit longer, so I couldn't get through the whole thing before we recorded. But, um, I learned. I think I knew this. But I learned, relearned, that he, abe lincoln, like uh, had the white house open to the public and was like this is your. You know this belongs to the people. Anyone can come in and talk to me if they want to, and so that's how they get into the white house, have a private meeting with pre-911 security right there for sure.
Speaker 2:Also just a completely different concept of the nature of politics and the role of the president.
Speaker 1:Did they say anything about Abraham Lincoln being gay?
Speaker 2:Sadly, they didn't mention that His children are main characters actually in this they didn't mention Joshua Spieth.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Not to where I got Mary Pope.
Speaker 1:Osborne. What if you did how?
Speaker 2:dare you what if you wrote oh, my where.
Speaker 1:I got Mary Pope Osborne. What if you did? How dare you? What if you like wrote oh my god, please, okay, re-release the Abe Lincoln one with a new side character, joshua Speed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, put that in. There were some side characters, but again, I only got 40% of the way through, so maybe I'll finish it and I'll let you guys know if he shows up, but so far, no, it's just his children. Okay, cool, sadly. But in that one they're also trying to do a little quest for Morgan Le Fay, but it's a little more intense. So yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1:I think this whole tension between the way that I perceived Annie and the way that you perceived Annie really goes back to the encounter we had when we were kids with our little brothers and they were looking out of a telescope like a toy telescope, pretending that they could see a naked lady, correct?
Speaker 1:and I was like, no, you can't. Like stop being, stop being dumb, like stop saying that you can see a naked lady when you can't, right. And then you were a traitor and looked through the thing and you're like, oh my god, I can see her too. I was like all all the way off, all of you, this is dumb and stupid.
Speaker 2:Stop saying that that is the divide between us. Actually, we ruined our family vacation because of this. It's funny now, but uh it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Parents were like. Our parents spent thousands of dollars on this vacation like we're screaming at each other, crying hysterically.
Speaker 2:So it's fine. I think too I got annie in a later book. In this book she was trying to be helpful. She didn't run off so much. She did know a lot of things, like jack was reading, but like she already knew who claire barton was and was like explaining things to jack, so maybe she mary popa was like hey, um maybe she got some like focus group notes and she was like yeah, I gotta make her like yes, so I felt like I get it, but I'm also, like you know, at this point I'm accepting the roles of this world that you guys can travel magically and that everything works out every single time.
Speaker 2:So, like Jack, loosen up a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is interesting to me. I'm trying to find out where she is in her sibling order. According to Wikipedia, mary Pope Osborne grew up in a military family alongside her sister Natalie Pope Boyce, her twin brother Bill, so she's a twin brother, and a younger brother, michael, so she's like has one older one twin and one younger, so oh, she as a child. She lived in salzburg. Okay, in oklahoma and virginia wow, that's a vastly different experience okay, cool, shout out to you, queen, I would recommend these, these aged.
Speaker 2:Well, like we always talk about that age well, unproblematic, in my opinion, and I think they're great for a kid to read like super educational, really fun, like a good way to learn about different historical topics, and they're pretty easy to read. I mean the one I the first one I read. The second one is a little bit more like maybe middle grades or upper elementary, but first one I read was super simple. So I think this would be great book for a kid to read. Love, love it. This is so much fun. Anything else to say about magic tree house? I don't think so. Let me look at my other notes. I just want to say that they have sold over 130 million copies worldwide. Um, so these are very popular and yeah, I just think they were. It was really fun to read, great way to learn about history, that's all yeah, yeah, I mean, we learned thumbs up redirect podcast approved yep age as well.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, speaking of books, still on this book podcast. Okay, what have you been reading recently?
Speaker 2:Okay, I was hopeful to have a book that I could emphatically recommend, but you know how some people do like yes, no, maybe to books. These are two maybes. I don't think they're for everyone, but I do think they're for someone. So the first one I read recently everyone, but I do think they're for someone. So the first one I read recently, um, was say a little prayer. It is a ya book that I truly do think. Unlike the book I recommended last time, which I do think is fun for all ages, this one, I would say, is for. It is strictly ya, I would say um, but it's by jenna voris.
Speaker 2:It follows girl.
Speaker 2:Her name is Riley and she left church basically because she stopped going to church, because she came out as bi and felt like she didn't have a place there anymore.
Speaker 2:But her family continued going to church and had really good friends there or whatever, and her best friend is the pastor's daughter, um, and so she was like chill, she was just like I just don't think I belong here anymore. And then her older sister. Uh, it comes out that her older sister had received an abortion and her pastor publicly like shuns her and excommunicates her from the church and like does this in front of everyone. So riley now hates the church like deeply hates the church, hates the pastor, hates everyone there, and she hears someone who used to be her sister's friend talking badly about her sister and then slaps her in school and ends up getting in trouble. And so the principal's like we're gonna either suspend you and you can't participate in the like spring play, which she's like starring in, or whatever, or you can go to the churches, which I'm like is this, uh, school should be doing this.
Speaker 2:But your other option is you can go to the churches, like spring retreat, and write an essay about what you learn and like try to become a better person okay yeah, and so she obviously chooses that because she's like I have been rehearsed, like they are counting on me, I am the star of the show, I can't not go to the musical or whatever, so I'm gonna go to this retreat, but then when she's there, they're learning about like the seven deadly sins and like the seven virtues or whatever, and um she's like she's like 17, 16, 17, maybe she's in high school or whatever. She's like, um, I think she's just it's her junior year of high school, like she has one more year.
Speaker 2:So she's like I'm gonna commit all seven deadly sins this week and I'm gonna prove to everyone that like it's not that bad, it's not that big of a deal, and so that's her like mission. And also she's kind of in love with her best friend, who is the pastor's daughter again, which is a very precarious situation to be in, uh, at church camp and like look, this was fun, it was fun, it was fun. I'm just like I don't, is it totally. It was good. I don't totally know who this is for, because I feel like it's almost for people like us who grew up in church, like there's a lot of like inside, like oh yeah, that's exactly what it's like.
Speaker 1:Is it like kind of like a journal entry? I mean this book is like more like a yeah and it has a nice like.
Speaker 2:In the end she kind of comes to this conclusion where she's like hey, maybe people at church aren't all bad and I can still be friends with these people, but this pastor is like cartoonishly evil. And I think it's realistic because it's like, hey, we're still in high school, there's nothing we can do to like change the situation, but we can like support each other and be there for each other, and like she has a really good group of friends in it and it other, and like that she has a really good group of friends in it and it's funny. But I'm like I don't know, I don't know, it feels very ya, but also it feels like written with people like us in mind and that was a little weird for me, but I do think it's good and I think like if you're a kid who has been excommunicated from your church or you feel like your friends have abandoned you because maybe they don't agree with you in some ways, I think that would be who this would be for.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I think that's number one ya book, yeah, very, and it was good it was. And the literally the best part of this is the chapter titles. Some of them are so funny, uh. So I really encourage you to at least pick it up and check out the chapter titles, because they're very, very, very good. So that's number one. Number two is called Real Life by Brandon Taylor.
Speaker 2:I just went through this yesterday and I read it one day. It's tough. So I'm going to say, please check the content warnings on this if you choose to read it. It is very.
Speaker 2:It deals with some things that are were tough to read about, that are were tough to read about, um, but it follows wallace and he is a uh, he's in graduate school and he's originally from the south. Um, he grew up very poor in the south, in alabama, and he's like I have to get out of here, and so he ends up pursuing, uh, science and moving to like a vague midwestern university to pursue a graduate degree and he has this group of friends um, they kind of suck and he is like he's, um, also the only black person in his friend group and he's also gay and so he has all these things. That's like he just feels like he's on the outside of everything, kind of like all these things stacked against him. Like everyone here is mostly grew up wealthy, they're mostly white, they are mostly not from the south, and like I am the other person in every sense in this world, and so this book takes place over a weekend and it's very intense and he's like kind of like the whole thing.
Speaker 2:It's called real life. He's kind of like I kind of want to live a real life. I'm tired of academia, I'm tired of like this world. That's like not real and everybody's like so consumed by it around me, but it's like it's not real. I'm not doing anything real. I'm like, you know, like struggling so hard and I'm also not happy and it's like that's a tough. I think that's a place everyone can relate to. Like anyone in their life at some point, even if it's just for a few days, has been through a time where you feel like you're struggling so hard and you're also not happy and it's like what am I doing with my life? Yeah, so that's kind of where he's at. Um, he, yeah, he just like yeah, a lot of things happen, he deals with a lot over the course of three days, and I would say again, please check the content warnings. But this is a finalist for the Booker Prize and it is very well written.
Speaker 1:And me personally, I've been realizing how much I really like literary fiction and books about complicated people that's been this year lit fic year for me too totally and so this was really good.
Speaker 2:I really liked it, but it was really really tough to read at times and it will it again. It takes place over three days. It will not leave you in a place where you're like, oh, I feel like he, he overcame, like he figured it out, like he's not going to um. So if you're not cool with that, I wouldn't read this. But I think it is very like, relatable to like if you've ever felt on the outside of a group of people, or if you've ever struggled with what you want to do with your life, um, or who you are, like your identity, your relationship with other people, your upbringing.
Speaker 2:There's a part where he talks about like he's in this sort of weird relationship with someone during the course of this weekend and the person asks him like, tell me about yourself. Like I don't know anything about you, I don't know anything about your past, like you never talk about yourself, and Wallace is like, no, like that won't help. You know me. Like, if I tell you that you're not going to know me any better, you're just going to like feel bad for me, or you're going to like like, have weird feelings about the things I've been through, but I had to. That version of me had to die when I came here. And this is a new person, you know, like I'm not the kid who grew up in the American South, like I'm not that person anymore and I, and and it's like you can see how Wallace thinks that's true and also how it's not true at all, like how everything he does is affected by his childhood and the things he's been through, and so I thought it was really good.
Speaker 2:It's very tough to read, so just please me go into it knowing that and like that. It is a complicated character.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like what I said about changing all stars. The last episode it's like, yes, super tough, like don't read it if you're in a bad mental health space. Please do not, please. But I really liked it yeah, so yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, be cautious, but have fun and let me know if you're reading. Anyways, these are both maybes, both maybes not emphatic recommended. I'm hoping that the next recommended with conditions yes, with care for specific people, got it okay. What have you read recently?
Speaker 1:a lot of Well, I've been reading a lot, so I think on our last episode I was like I said, hey. I've been trying to close my gap for, like my excuse me my reading goal, and last time I was four books behind, and today I am one book behind, which I would like to say it's kind of hard to do when your goal requires you to read like two and a half books per week or whatever, yes, that's a big, big overcoming.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, well done.
Speaker 1:So this week, but still this week, in order to close the gap, I have to read three books, you know, because I have to read the two I'm supposed to read, plus the one. Yeah, you still have to keep catching up, yeah, yeah. So, anyways, I've read some great stuff, some okay stuff and some really bad stuff.
Speaker 2:Where should I start? I think, due to my non-emphatic recommendation that you should start with the bad so that we end on a really high note, I'm going to do bad middle top. I think that's the right thing to do Okay Bad, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Okay, I finished this morning totally and completely fine by Alyssa Sussman. Yes, this was my lowest rated book of the year and unfortunately I did finish it because I was like, because it was a quick book, like.
Speaker 1:I was reading it quickly and about halfway through I was like I don't really want. I know I don't like this book, but again I'm trying to dig myself out of this Sure. So I was like you know what, let me just finish it Whatever Like. And it was like fine at parts, but by the end it was. I was just like so annoyed. So this is a companion novel to Funny you Should Ask. So Funny you Should Ask is the one that's the celebrity romance with Gabe Parker and Honey, and this is about Gabe's sister who is a?
Speaker 1:widow and a single mom, and so Gabe and Honey are both in the book okay but not featured prominently, sure, but it's yeah same universe, so it's a companion novel, okay you don't have to read the first one, to read this one, but it would help and it does not hold a candle at all.
Speaker 1:So I really liked. And I was actually thinking I was going back to what I said on our last episode, that I don't like plot-driven contemporary romance. And this was plot-driven contemporary romance with no extra something or other. Sure, I'll just kind of quickly like this is a book about. It's told in like two different settings, goes back and forth from the past to the present. It's told in like two different settings, goes back and forth from the past to the present. In the past, she's talking about how it's like recounting the story of how she fell in love with her late husband who was her brother's best friend. So there's like childhood love. You know the whole time he's going to die and honestly, like by the end of the book he was the only. That was the only story I was invested in, the main love story of the book I didn't care about because it didn't feel anywhere near as significant as the
Speaker 1:original as her, as her husband and the father of her child. Um, there it was. It was age gap. It was one of those books where you end the book and you're like there's absolutely no way they stay together. This makes absolutely no sense. He's also a celebrity who is 11 years younger than her. At the top of her career, she owns a craft store, a craft bookstore, in montana, in a small town in montana. It just like wasn't good, dude, like unfortunately it was two stars tough. Like it just wasn. It just wasn't good. And it's like I felt like I was never at any point invested in the main romance at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a weird choice. First of all because, like I don't know, I struggle, like I can't read about throuples. I don't like the wide shoes. I don't like it when there's someone from your past and someone from your present you're choosing between. So, like I, I don't like it when there's any other love interest involved. I don't really like love triangles. You know what I mean. Like so that feels weird. To like spend that much time of a book that's ostensibly a contemporary romance, focusing on a relationship that's not going to pan out.
Speaker 1:Like that's weird well, I mean, it's just like. Also, I'm always going to choose like the spouse, like I like. Yeah, I mean, you know he passed away.
Speaker 2:That's even weirder, and it's not even a choice.
Speaker 1:If it was well done, it could have worked, because it could have been a book about grief and like how you can't compare relationships and like the love lives on, but there's also new things in the future, but it's just never like. I felt like 75 of the way through the book they were like finally getting to know each other like genuinely finally having like real conversations, the book starts out and they're like hooking up, yeah, the second chapter or something like that.
Speaker 1:So weird, it's just like it just wasn't good. Dude, I just think like I'm, I'm really getting worried. She was a one-hit wonder.
Speaker 2:I think she was because she essentially this is the she's essentially a fan fiction author who got published. The book she wrote originally was a real person fan fiction about chris evans and like I don't think she's has, I think she found something real in that story which was compelling and like she took things from a real life event and I don't feel like I felt the same way about her uh second book that I wasn't, which didn't even have a third person, and I just felt totally uninvested in the main relationship. I didn't think they were even good together, like it wasn't.
Speaker 1:There was no chemistry between them this one was worse it was worse so I'm worried about.
Speaker 2:I think I'm out on her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wasn't like from the first one. I was auto buy.
Speaker 2:And now.
Speaker 1:Then, like her second one, I was like I'll give her a third chance, like maybe, yeah, her thought she was in a sophomore slump. It wasn't good. And I also think she has other books. I think she has a YA series, but like of this of her adult yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, romance, anyway, moving on from now, that was that was, that was the bad. That was the bad. It wasn't good. Okay, okay, medium. Um, I read the first two books in the crowns of niaxia series, which is a romantic series the serpent and the wings of night and the ashes and the starker's king.
Speaker 1:I found the first one in my little free library and I was like cool whatever like why not, it was like pretty good Like it was pretty good. The second one was less good. It was still pretty good. I'm probably not going to keep reading them, but it was a fun little romantic-y snack.
Speaker 1:And if you were in the mood for, like a pretty good romantic-y. It was vampires. Ooh, that's different. Yeah, so that was fun. On theme, it was in a vampire world, um, so that was interesting. So yeah, it was fine, pretty good. Next, moving into my next year, um, I read last night at the telegraph club by melinda low. This is a historical romance. That in this is a historical romance. That in it's like a extremely banned book. It is uh set in the 50s in san francisco and it's about a young first generation, uh chinese american gal and she is gay and she's figuring out that she's gay because there is a club in town in san francisco that is like a lesbian club. She finds out about it, she has a friend at school, she falls in love with a friend and, um, it was really good like it has all sorts of awards.
Speaker 1:Like I knew it would be sure, yeah I've seen that around, so yeah, and it was and, um, I thought it was really interesting, like the perspective of being gay in the 50s, but also in san francisco, which is like, yeah, the birthplace of being gay. Not really. It was just, yeah, a good reminder that queer people have always been around and we'll always will be around.
Speaker 1:Um, it was a really good book and I really enjoyed it. That was like 4.75 stars. Oh okay, five star echelon. Here we go. I'm trying to. I know I have a lot here, but they all have to be talked about people.
Speaker 2:The people need to hear this, yeah okay, I read never let me go by kazuo ishiguro.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, that was the one I talked about last episode. Yes, like something I'm looking forward to reading.
Speaker 2:I put it on hold based on you just being looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I don't want to say too much about it. Sure, what I will say about it is it wasn't quite what I expected, but in a good way it's kind of told. It's told from like purse-person Pur. It's told from like purse person purse. Oh my gosh, first person first, first person pov. In kind of like a stream of consciousness way. Sure, so if you hate that, you'll hate it, but it's kind of like you know she'll just the main character, kath will be like. Anyways, the reason I told you about that is because of this it's like she's recounting the story of her life like breaking the fourth wall.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, she's talking directly to the reader okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Anyways, you're probably thinking why would? I tell you that you know interesting so it's the story of how she also last episode I was like this place called Hailsham, hailsham.
Speaker 2:It's.
Speaker 1:Britain. Okay, so Hailsham, the school that they grew up at, and you're trying to figure out like you don't have all the information right away, like she slowly breadcrumbs information about why they were at this school, what's happening, what happens in the future, what's going on with them now, and you very slowly get the clues. I absolutely do not want to ruin any of it for you, okay, but just to say it was and it's also. It's like it's. Actually I was a little bit wrong about the genre. It's like speculative fiction and sci-fi, okay.
Speaker 2:Set in 1990s, england.
Speaker 1:Oh ah okay, 1970s to 1990s. It was really good. It was one of those where after I finished it, I like immediately googled never let me go reddit yeah ending because I was like what do people think? About all of this and like what is, what did it all mean? And the symbolism and all that stuff. So that was really good. Okay, wow, last one.
Speaker 2:I'll report back in several months, by the way.
Speaker 1:Well, just let me know as soon as you read it. Yeah, I will. I cannot spoil anything for you, but it was not what I thought was happening.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you that, okay, not what I thought was happening, I'll tell you that?
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm ready. Okay, Also apparently this is a movie starring Andrew Garfield. Keira Knightley and what's her face? Hold on.
Speaker 2:There's something in Andrew Garfield's IMDb that I haven't seen. That has not crossed my desk.
Speaker 1:Hello Do not watch the movie first?
Speaker 2:Okay, it's probably not good. It came out in 2010 oh, I see, okay, fair enough andrew garfield and carrie marligan.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it has a good reviews. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:I know, I'll check that out. Great once I read it.
Speaker 1:It's on netflix yeah, okay, I know I've been talking for a while. Keep talking, it's fun sky daddy, I can't wait.
Speaker 2:This is also on hold now, thanks to you, but I need you to read this book.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I visited my family, my parents, in north carolina. I had this plane ride coming back. My mom and I had a little time to kill. I popped into barnes and Noble and I was like you know what I'm about to be on a plane ride, sky Daddy's on my TBR what better time?
Speaker 1:yeah, this is like I cannot imagine a better place to read this book. Absolutely. I read that shit cover to cover in one plane ride. My god, I just could not put it down. And it is so weird. Okay, like it is as weird as you think it's going to be. It is about a woman. It's told from her point of view too, so that's really important. Um, it's super subversive. It's gonna like make you uncomfortable, but she is actually attracted to planes and throughout the book I feel like you kind of get this idea about like why, where does that come from? Like she talks about some of her experiences, whatever, and her belief is that the destiny of her life is her fate is to marry a plane and in order for a plane to choose you and marry you, you will get into a plane crash. Great, I hope this woman's never on any of my flights. Reading this on a plane made me uncomfortable because I was like I hope the plane doesn't feel like I'm objectifying it.
Speaker 2:Like, I'm like the way she describes it Does the plane. Consent to me reading this while in the plane.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah and like it is really uncomfortable. Like you know, she whatever, okay, so she's also, at the same time as all of this, her pursuit of like she believes like in her reality, like she is imminently going to be dying in a plane crash. Yeah, yeah, all of her money is like she's doesn't spend her money Cause she's like wants to save it all to fly on planes every weekend, like she's trying to find a plane to choose her. Okay, like this is like so fully insane, yeah, yeah. But like you also empathize with her so much because this is from her point of view.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You in her head like that actually makes sense. She just believes it. But at the same time, she's actually making a really good friend who is at her workplace and she's like opening her heart to more like people and I just don't want to say any more than that because I just, yeah, I don't want to ruin anything. But, um, it is a really, really, really interesting book. It is a lit fic. It will leave you asking a bunch of questions, googling the ending. If you're into satisfying endings, this isn't it you're gonna like. You're gonna have more questions than answers and it's gonna lead you to thinking about, like, the message and the meaning of the book. I can't wait.
Speaker 1:It is not an inanimate object romance no, it is not a romance in any sense of the word. It's a book that uses a situation from like kind of a messed up person to like ask big questions about human relationships and destiny and fate. I love that. It was so good. It was five stars. Like it might be one of the best, one of the best books I've read this year, for sure, maybe one of my favorites of all time like it was wow good, okay, all right, I gotta get into this.
Speaker 1:It is so weird, like if you are not open to reading something weird, listen, yeah, what are you doing here? Don't read this book. Like it is really weird and it will make you uncomfortable and reading it on a plane is a choice. Like I kept trying to keep the cover down because it is like an airplane on the front. I was like yeah. I'm like I wonder if like the staff is like the flight attendants and like the captain of her.
Speaker 2:I'm like don't judge me, please, please, please. Anyways, that's the tea. Wow, that was so many books I'm very impressed by you.
Speaker 1:You're doing more shoveling to do, but I'm almost out yeah.
Speaker 2:You're almost there. I can't wait to hear what you're going to keep it up. I know, yeah, you know lock in lock in.
Speaker 1:I saw I have another week off of work, so yeah, you can get.
Speaker 2:You can get ahead a little bit. At least, give yourself a cushion for sure. I believe you.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, that's it. You guys next time. See you guys next time, bye, bye.