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1715 Treasure Coast Financial Wellness with Thomas Davies
Long-Term Care Costs in Florida: Protect Your Wealth
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Imagine you spent, you know, the last forty years or so building this magnificent custom designed estate.
SPEAKER_01Right, complete with state-of-the-art security, shatterproof windows, a reinforced steel gate, the whole works.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And this estate is your portfolio. We're talking um two million, five million, maybe even ten million dollars.
SPEAKER_01So from a traditional wealth management perspective, you've basically done everything right. You're totally insulated against the standard financial shocks.
SPEAKER_00But okay, let's unpack this for a second. What if the greatest threat to your estate isn't an intruder coming through that front gate?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what if it's a silent, invisible foundation issue? Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_00Right. A crack in the slab that goes unnoticed for a decade, quietly compromising the structural integrity until boom, the entire house collapses inward.
SPEAKER_01It's a terrifying thought, but it happens all the time.
SPEAKER_00It really does. So on today's deep dive, our mission is to shine a massive floodlight on that exact vulnerability. We are talking about the single greatest uninsured risk to affluent families, which is um long-term care costs.
SPEAKER_01It really is the ultimate blind spot because wealthy families will spend, I mean, months agonizing over a half percent difference in investment fees while completely ignoring a health event that could forcibly liquidate half their net worth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's exactly why we're digging into this. And to figure out how to actually plug this hole, we are drawing directly from the playbook of Thomas Davies. He's a fee-based fiduciary advisor at Davies Wealth Management down in Stewart, Florida.
SPEAKER_01And this analysis is actually tailored specifically for the listeners of the 1715 Treasure Coast Financial Wellness Podcast.
SPEAKER_00So as you listen today, I want you to mentally pull out your own retirement blueprint, take a hard look at your safety net, and ask yourself if you know you've been operating under a massive, very expensive illusion.
SPEAKER_01Because that illusion usually sounds something like, uh, I have plenty of money. If I get sick, I'll just write a check and self-fund my care.
SPEAKER_00Let me push back on that for a second, though. Because on the surface, that assumption makes mathematical sense, right? If I have five million dollars in liquid assets, why would I bother jumping through hoops or buying insurance?
SPEAKER_01I hear that all the time.
SPEAKER_00Right. Like if a health crisis hits, I just sell off some of my portfolio, pay the facility, and move on. A massive bill is just a drop in the bucket.
SPEAKER_01Well, it might be a drop in the bucket if you were paying with, you know, untaxed monopoly money. But that brings us to the core mechanism of the high net worth trap.
SPEAKER_00Okay, lay it out for us.
SPEAKER_01The question isn't whether you have the raw capital to technically afford it. The real question is whether liquidating your specific tax-deferred assets to pay retail price for care is a strategic use of your hard-earned wealth.
SPEAKER_00Right, because it's going to trigger a catastrophic chain reaction with the IRS. Let's ground this in the reality of 2026 Florida.
SPEAKER_01Good idea. Florida is a magnet for retirees, which obviously creates an astronomical demand for care.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And based on the 2026 Genworth data, if you need a private room in a Florida nursing home, the median cost is just over$122,000 a year.
SPEAKER_01It's wild. Even just bringing a home health aid in for um like 44 hours a week is nearly 64 grand.
SPEAKER_00So to pay that$122,000 bill, I have to pull cash from my portfolio. And most affluent retirees hold the bulk of their wealth in traditional IRAs or$401Ks.
SPEAKER_01And that is exactly where the trap snaps shut. Pulling$150,000 out of a traditional IRA to pay for a year of nursing care, it isn't just a simple withdrawal.
SPEAKER_00The IRS treats every single dollar of that as fully taxable ordinary income.
SPEAKER_01Yes. What's fascinating here is the cascading effect. It's like trying to bail water out of a sinking boat, but every bucket of water you throw overboard to pay the facility, the government forces you to take two buckets back on board in taxes.
SPEAKER_00That's a brutal analogy. Treating your retirement account like an endless ATM while ignoring the transaction fees.
SPEAKER_01The industry actually calls it the tax torpedo. Let's say you're a single filer in 2026. If your baseline income, plus this massive new withdrawal, pushes your total income over roughly$243,000.
SPEAKER_00Which it easily would.
SPEAKER_01Easily. You are suddenly vaulted into the 32% or 35% tax bracket. So to clear enough cash to actually pay the nursing home, you might have to liquidate over 200 grand from your IRA just to satisfy the IRS.
SPEAKER_00Wow. But wait, the torpedo doesn't stop at income tax, does it? That artificial income spike triggers a secondary explosion. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01Right. The IRMAA surcharges. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_00The income-related monthly adjustment amount.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Medicare looks at your tax return, sees this massive income spike, and decides you're now a high earner, so they slap a surcharge on your Medicare Part B and Part D premiums.
SPEAKER_00Which for affluent families can easily add over$500 a month to your health care costs.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Plus, that higher income makes more of your Social Security benefits taxable. It's just a cascading wealth destruction event.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell Okay, so clearly traditional cell funding triggers this massive tax penalty. So the paradigm has to shift. How do we pay the bill without waking up the IRS?
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell You have to shift from a reactive stance to intentionally deploying capital ahead of time so it does the heavy lifting for you. And the first strategy for this is hybrid life and long-term care insurance.
SPEAKER_00Now, whenever I hear the word insurance, I immediately think of those old standalone policies our parents bought. You know, you pay a premium every year, the rates keep hiking, and if you die in your sleep, the money is just gone.
SPEAKER_01And that is exactly why the standalone market is essentially dead. High net worth families refuse to pay for something they might never use.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Ross Powell So how were hybrid policies different under the hood?
SPEAKER_01They completely re-engineered the mechanics. Instead of paying an annual premium forever, you drop a single lump sum premium, usually between$100,000 and$500,000.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell Okay, so a big upfront commitment.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Right. But that one-time deposit buys you a leveraged tax-free benefit pool of two to three times that amount. So if you need care, it pays out 10 to 20 grand a month, completely tax-free.
SPEAKER_00And what if I never need care?
SPEAKER_01If you die without needing it, your heirs get a tax-free death benefit. So there are no wasted premiums.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I see the leverage there, but honestly, tying up a couple hundred grand in a lump summit feels like a massive opportunity cost. Isn't that money better off left alone in the SP 500? Just compounding?
SPEAKER_01It's a very fair question, but you have to factor in sequence of returns risks.
SPEAKER_00Right, the timing of a market crash.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. If you leave that money in the S P 500 and the market drops 25% the exact same year you get an Alzheimer's diagnosis, your capital is crushed right when you need it most. The hybrid policy guarantees that pool regardless of market conditions.
SPEAKER_00Okay, but let's say I'm stubborn. I have a massive portfolio, say, over$5 million, and I absolutely refuse to buy an insurance product. If I insist on truly self-insuring, how do I do it without walking into that tax torpedo?
SPEAKER_01You can self-insure, but it requires extreme discipline. You can't just look at a consolidated brokerage statement, see$5 million, and call yourself self-insured.
SPEAKER_00Because it's too tangled up in growth assets.
SPEAKER_01Yes. You have to carve out a dedicated care reserve, typically$500,000 to$1.5 million per spouse and physically move it into a different bucket.
SPEAKER_00You literally wall it off. Yeah. And I'm guessing it has to be in super safe conservative assets.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Short duration bonds, treasury securities, things that hold their principal value during a crash. So when the medical bills arrive, you drain this conservative bucket first, which prevents you from being forced to sell your growth stocks at a loss.
SPEAKER_00That makes total sense. Now what about strategy number three? Because Thomas Davies talks a lot about asset-based planning and optimizing lazy money.
SPEAKER_01Oh, this is a great one. We all have dead weight on our balance sheets. It might be a low-yielding bank CD or very commonly an old whole life insurance policy you bought 30 years ago.
SPEAKER_00Right, something that has cash value, but you don't really need the death benefit anymore.
SPEAKER_01Yep. So you can use a mechanism called a 1035 exchange. The tax code allows you to take the cash value from that old underperforming policy and transfer it directly into a new annuity contract that has a long-term care writer attached to it.
SPEAKER_00And because it's a 1035 exchange, you do that without paying taxes on the historical gains, right?
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And once inside that new annuity, the long-term care writer acts as a multiplier. It doubles or triples your care coverage. And if it's unused, it still passes to your beneficiaries.
SPEAKER_00Wow. So you're basically turning sleepy money into a highly leveraged health care defense fund.
SPEAKER_01Precisely.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so deploying capital covers the bills. But what about legally shielding the rest of the estate from the government? Because eventually, even a wealthy family could burn through their liquid assets if a care event lasts a decade.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell And at that point, you're dealing with Medicaid. Now, the state of Florida has incredibly strict rules to ensure people don't just game the system to qualify for state aid.
SPEAKER_00You mean the dreaded five-year look back period? I can't just transfer my remaining three million to my daughter tomorrow so I look poor on paper.
SPEAKER_01No, you absolutely cannot. Florida will audit every single financial transaction you made over the prior 60 months.
SPEAKER_00That's brutal.
SPEAKER_01It is. So to legally shield your state, you have to move assets into an irrevocable trust well before you ever need care, like at least 60 months prior.
SPEAKER_00And relinquishing control of my money into an irrevocable trust sounds terrifying. But Davies points out that right now, these trusts serve a massive dual purpose.
SPEAKER_01Yes, because of the incoming 2026 tax sunset. The federal estate tax exemption is currently historically high, around$13.99 million per person. But it's scheduled to sunset down to roughly$7 million per person.
SPEAKER_00So for ultra-high net worth families, these irrevocable trusts provide Medicaid protection and massive estate tax reduction.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. They do double duty.
SPEAKER_00Okay, here is where it gets really interesting, though. Strategy five. Because I was looking at the notes, and well, what if we strategically shift our money to a Roth IRA before we even get sick?
SPEAKER_01Oh man, it's one of the most elegant, underutilized pieces of financial jujitsu out there. Strategic Roth conversions.
SPEAKER_00Right. Because Roth withdrawals are completely tax-free. So if I pull$150,000 from a Roth to pay for a memory care facility, it doesn't show up as taxable income.
SPEAKER_01Nope. It doesn't push you into a higher tax bracket, and it entirely sidesteps those dreaded IRMAA Medicare surcharges, you completely neutralize the tax torpedo.
SPEAKER_00But the catch is the timing, right? You have to execute this during a specific window.
SPEAKER_01Right, the golden window. Typically between retirement when your earned income drops and age 72 to 75, which is when the government forces you to start taking required minimum distributions or RMDs from your traditional IRA.
SPEAKER_00Because RMDs force your taxable income back up. So you systematically build this tax-free reservoir of capital during that gap year period.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00This raises an important question, though. Strategy six. What happens to the healthy spouse who is left at home while their partner is in a facility? Doesn't the state just take half of everything?
SPEAKER_01This is a brutal reality called spousal impoverishment. In 2026, Florida's Community Spouse Resource Allowance, the C SRA, caps the protected liquid assets for the healthy spouse at a mere$154,140.
SPEAKER_00Wait, really, let that sink in. You could be living in a paid-off$1.5 million home, and the state says you can only keep about$154,000 in liquid assets to sustain your multimillion dollar lifestyle.
SPEAKER_01It's a fast track to financial ruin for the healthy spouse, which is why high net worth families must utilize proper titling and spousal lifetime access trusts, or slats.
SPEAKER_00So the sesslide bypasses that limit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. One spouse places assets into an irrevocable trust for the benefit of the other. Because it's irrevocable, Medicaid can't count the principal. But an independent trustee can still make distributions to the healthy spouse for their lifestyle.
SPEAKER_00So it legally ring fences their dignity and security. I love that. Now we've talked a lot about the legal mechanisms, but we have to acknowledge the terrain. Strategy seven, the Florida factor.
SPEAKER_01Right, the no state income tax edge.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Pulling 150 grand from an IRA in New York or California means an extra 15 to 20 grand just in state taxes. Florida residents avoid that entirely, which effectively reduces the care burden by what, 10 to 13 percent?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But you have to establish true domicile. You can't just be a snowbird, voter registration, declaration of domicile, it's strictly required.
SPEAKER_00And we have to factor in the hidden multipliers that make these baseline costs accelerate so terrifyingly. Like inflation.
SPEAKER_01Oh, healthcare inflation does not behave like normal inflation. It runs at four to five percent annually. So that$122,000 room today, it will cost over$200,000 by 2040.
SPEAKER_00Wow. And the second multiplier is cognitive decline. Alzheimer's of memory care totally changed the equation, right?
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Specialized memory care adds thirty to fifty percent to the bill, reaching eighty to a hundred grand extra for specialized care. And it lasts an average of four to eight years.
SPEAKER_00Which naturally brings us to the free care fallacy. Families see these numbers and think, I'll just take care of my spouse at home. It's free.
SPEAKER_01But it's never free. It costs lost income, and it severely compromises the family's health and the patient's quality of care.
SPEAKER_00It destroys the caregiver. So knowing all these strategies, the slats, the Roth conversions, it's useless if you miss the window to execute them.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. The golden window is between ages 50 and 65. Insurance requires good health for underwriting, Roth conversions require that window before RMDs, and remote trusts need that five-year runway. Starting at 70 is cutting it close. 80 is too late.
SPEAKER_00So why should you care? Because there was a 70% probability of needing care after age 65. So taking Davy's wealth management's two-minute financial wellness quiz or booking a fiduciary audit with them is the difference between a reactive crisis and proactive wealth preservation.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00I'll leave you with this final thought to mull over. We spend our whole lives trying to ensure our wealth outlives us to create a legacy. But if an unplanned, decade long care event can rewrite your entire family tree's financial future in an instant, perhaps true legacy planning isn't about what you leave behind in a will. Perhaps it's about becoming the generation that financially insulates the family from the vulnerabilities of the human body. Think about that as you review your own blueprint.