1715 Treasure Coast Financial Wellness with Thomas Davies

Long-Term Care Costs in Florida: Protect Your Wealth

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**What's quietly destroying the wealth of Florida's most successful families?** It's not market crashes or economic downturns—it's long-term care costs that can devastate even multi-million dollar portfolios. In this episode, we explore why affluent Floridians can't afford to ignore this hidden risk and how proper financial planning can protect decades of wealth building. Discover why self-funding isn't always the answer, what the latest cost surveys reveal about nursing home expenses in Florida, and how fee-based fiduciary advisors structure comprehensive wealth management strategies that address long-term care vulnerabilities. Whether you have $2 million or $10 million, this conversation reveals critical retirement planning insights that could save your family hundreds of thousands of dollars. Ready to talk? Schedule a complimentary discovery call at TDWealth.net. For educational purposes only. Not investment advice. 📖 Full show notes: https://tdwealth.net/long-term-care-costs-in-florida-protect-your-wealth/

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SPEAKER_00

Imagine you spent, you know, the last forty years or so building this magnificent custom designed estate.

SPEAKER_01

Right, complete with state-of-the-art security, shatterproof windows, a reinforced steel gate, the whole works.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. And this estate is your portfolio. We're talking um two million, five million, maybe even ten million dollars.

SPEAKER_01

So from a traditional wealth management perspective, you've basically done everything right. You're totally insulated against the standard financial shocks.

SPEAKER_00

But okay, let's unpack this for a second. What if the greatest threat to your estate isn't an intruder coming through that front gate?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, what if it's a silent, invisible foundation issue? Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00

Right. A crack in the slab that goes unnoticed for a decade, quietly compromising the structural integrity until boom, the entire house collapses inward.

SPEAKER_01

It's a terrifying thought, but it happens all the time.

SPEAKER_00

It really does. So on today's deep dive, our mission is to shine a massive floodlight on that exact vulnerability. We are talking about the single greatest uninsured risk to affluent families, which is um long-term care costs.

SPEAKER_01

It really is the ultimate blind spot because wealthy families will spend, I mean, months agonizing over a half percent difference in investment fees while completely ignoring a health event that could forcibly liquidate half their net worth.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's exactly why we're digging into this. And to figure out how to actually plug this hole, we are drawing directly from the playbook of Thomas Davies. He's a fee-based fiduciary advisor at Davies Wealth Management down in Stewart, Florida.

SPEAKER_01

And this analysis is actually tailored specifically for the listeners of the 1715 Treasure Coast Financial Wellness Podcast.

SPEAKER_00

So as you listen today, I want you to mentally pull out your own retirement blueprint, take a hard look at your safety net, and ask yourself if you know you've been operating under a massive, very expensive illusion.

SPEAKER_01

Because that illusion usually sounds something like, uh, I have plenty of money. If I get sick, I'll just write a check and self-fund my care.

SPEAKER_00

Let me push back on that for a second, though. Because on the surface, that assumption makes mathematical sense, right? If I have five million dollars in liquid assets, why would I bother jumping through hoops or buying insurance?

SPEAKER_01

I hear that all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Like if a health crisis hits, I just sell off some of my portfolio, pay the facility, and move on. A massive bill is just a drop in the bucket.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it might be a drop in the bucket if you were paying with, you know, untaxed monopoly money. But that brings us to the core mechanism of the high net worth trap.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, lay it out for us.

SPEAKER_01

The question isn't whether you have the raw capital to technically afford it. The real question is whether liquidating your specific tax-deferred assets to pay retail price for care is a strategic use of your hard-earned wealth.

SPEAKER_00

Right, because it's going to trigger a catastrophic chain reaction with the IRS. Let's ground this in the reality of 2026 Florida.

SPEAKER_01

Good idea. Florida is a magnet for retirees, which obviously creates an astronomical demand for care.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And based on the 2026 Genworth data, if you need a private room in a Florida nursing home, the median cost is just over$122,000 a year.

SPEAKER_01

It's wild. Even just bringing a home health aid in for um like 44 hours a week is nearly 64 grand.

SPEAKER_00

So to pay that$122,000 bill, I have to pull cash from my portfolio. And most affluent retirees hold the bulk of their wealth in traditional IRAs or$401Ks.

SPEAKER_01

And that is exactly where the trap snaps shut. Pulling$150,000 out of a traditional IRA to pay for a year of nursing care, it isn't just a simple withdrawal.

SPEAKER_00

The IRS treats every single dollar of that as fully taxable ordinary income.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. What's fascinating here is the cascading effect. It's like trying to bail water out of a sinking boat, but every bucket of water you throw overboard to pay the facility, the government forces you to take two buckets back on board in taxes.

SPEAKER_00

That's a brutal analogy. Treating your retirement account like an endless ATM while ignoring the transaction fees.

SPEAKER_01

The industry actually calls it the tax torpedo. Let's say you're a single filer in 2026. If your baseline income, plus this massive new withdrawal, pushes your total income over roughly$243,000.

SPEAKER_00

Which it easily would.

SPEAKER_01

Easily. You are suddenly vaulted into the 32% or 35% tax bracket. So to clear enough cash to actually pay the nursing home, you might have to liquidate over 200 grand from your IRA just to satisfy the IRS.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. But wait, the torpedo doesn't stop at income tax, does it? That artificial income spike triggers a secondary explosion. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01

Right. The IRMAA surcharges. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00

The income-related monthly adjustment amount.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Medicare looks at your tax return, sees this massive income spike, and decides you're now a high earner, so they slap a surcharge on your Medicare Part B and Part D premiums.

SPEAKER_00

Which for affluent families can easily add over$500 a month to your health care costs.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Plus, that higher income makes more of your Social Security benefits taxable. It's just a cascading wealth destruction event.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Okay, so clearly traditional cell funding triggers this massive tax penalty. So the paradigm has to shift. How do we pay the bill without waking up the IRS?

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell You have to shift from a reactive stance to intentionally deploying capital ahead of time so it does the heavy lifting for you. And the first strategy for this is hybrid life and long-term care insurance.

SPEAKER_00

Now, whenever I hear the word insurance, I immediately think of those old standalone policies our parents bought. You know, you pay a premium every year, the rates keep hiking, and if you die in your sleep, the money is just gone.

SPEAKER_01

And that is exactly why the standalone market is essentially dead. High net worth families refuse to pay for something they might never use.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Ross Powell So how were hybrid policies different under the hood?

SPEAKER_01

They completely re-engineered the mechanics. Instead of paying an annual premium forever, you drop a single lump sum premium, usually between$100,000 and$500,000.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Okay, so a big upfront commitment.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell Right. But that one-time deposit buys you a leveraged tax-free benefit pool of two to three times that amount. So if you need care, it pays out 10 to 20 grand a month, completely tax-free.

SPEAKER_00

And what if I never need care?

SPEAKER_01

If you die without needing it, your heirs get a tax-free death benefit. So there are no wasted premiums.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I see the leverage there, but honestly, tying up a couple hundred grand in a lump summit feels like a massive opportunity cost. Isn't that money better off left alone in the SP 500? Just compounding?

SPEAKER_01

It's a very fair question, but you have to factor in sequence of returns risks.

SPEAKER_00

Right, the timing of a market crash.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. If you leave that money in the S P 500 and the market drops 25% the exact same year you get an Alzheimer's diagnosis, your capital is crushed right when you need it most. The hybrid policy guarantees that pool regardless of market conditions.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but let's say I'm stubborn. I have a massive portfolio, say, over$5 million, and I absolutely refuse to buy an insurance product. If I insist on truly self-insuring, how do I do it without walking into that tax torpedo?

SPEAKER_01

You can self-insure, but it requires extreme discipline. You can't just look at a consolidated brokerage statement, see$5 million, and call yourself self-insured.

SPEAKER_00

Because it's too tangled up in growth assets.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. You have to carve out a dedicated care reserve, typically$500,000 to$1.5 million per spouse and physically move it into a different bucket.

SPEAKER_00

You literally wall it off. Yeah. And I'm guessing it has to be in super safe conservative assets.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Short duration bonds, treasury securities, things that hold their principal value during a crash. So when the medical bills arrive, you drain this conservative bucket first, which prevents you from being forced to sell your growth stocks at a loss.

SPEAKER_00

That makes total sense. Now what about strategy number three? Because Thomas Davies talks a lot about asset-based planning and optimizing lazy money.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, this is a great one. We all have dead weight on our balance sheets. It might be a low-yielding bank CD or very commonly an old whole life insurance policy you bought 30 years ago.

SPEAKER_00

Right, something that has cash value, but you don't really need the death benefit anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. So you can use a mechanism called a 1035 exchange. The tax code allows you to take the cash value from that old underperforming policy and transfer it directly into a new annuity contract that has a long-term care writer attached to it.

SPEAKER_00

And because it's a 1035 exchange, you do that without paying taxes on the historical gains, right?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And once inside that new annuity, the long-term care writer acts as a multiplier. It doubles or triples your care coverage. And if it's unused, it still passes to your beneficiaries.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. So you're basically turning sleepy money into a highly leveraged health care defense fund.

SPEAKER_01

Precisely.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so deploying capital covers the bills. But what about legally shielding the rest of the estate from the government? Because eventually, even a wealthy family could burn through their liquid assets if a care event lasts a decade.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell And at that point, you're dealing with Medicaid. Now, the state of Florida has incredibly strict rules to ensure people don't just game the system to qualify for state aid.

SPEAKER_00

You mean the dreaded five-year look back period? I can't just transfer my remaining three million to my daughter tomorrow so I look poor on paper.

SPEAKER_01

No, you absolutely cannot. Florida will audit every single financial transaction you made over the prior 60 months.

SPEAKER_00

That's brutal.

SPEAKER_01

It is. So to legally shield your state, you have to move assets into an irrevocable trust well before you ever need care, like at least 60 months prior.

SPEAKER_00

And relinquishing control of my money into an irrevocable trust sounds terrifying. But Davies points out that right now, these trusts serve a massive dual purpose.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, because of the incoming 2026 tax sunset. The federal estate tax exemption is currently historically high, around$13.99 million per person. But it's scheduled to sunset down to roughly$7 million per person.

SPEAKER_00

So for ultra-high net worth families, these irrevocable trusts provide Medicaid protection and massive estate tax reduction.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. They do double duty.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, here is where it gets really interesting, though. Strategy five. Because I was looking at the notes, and well, what if we strategically shift our money to a Roth IRA before we even get sick?

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, it's one of the most elegant, underutilized pieces of financial jujitsu out there. Strategic Roth conversions.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Because Roth withdrawals are completely tax-free. So if I pull$150,000 from a Roth to pay for a memory care facility, it doesn't show up as taxable income.

SPEAKER_01

Nope. It doesn't push you into a higher tax bracket, and it entirely sidesteps those dreaded IRMAA Medicare surcharges, you completely neutralize the tax torpedo.

SPEAKER_00

But the catch is the timing, right? You have to execute this during a specific window.

SPEAKER_01

Right, the golden window. Typically between retirement when your earned income drops and age 72 to 75, which is when the government forces you to start taking required minimum distributions or RMDs from your traditional IRA.

SPEAKER_00

Because RMDs force your taxable income back up. So you systematically build this tax-free reservoir of capital during that gap year period.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

This raises an important question, though. Strategy six. What happens to the healthy spouse who is left at home while their partner is in a facility? Doesn't the state just take half of everything?

SPEAKER_01

This is a brutal reality called spousal impoverishment. In 2026, Florida's Community Spouse Resource Allowance, the C SRA, caps the protected liquid assets for the healthy spouse at a mere$154,140.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, really, let that sink in. You could be living in a paid-off$1.5 million home, and the state says you can only keep about$154,000 in liquid assets to sustain your multimillion dollar lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01

It's a fast track to financial ruin for the healthy spouse, which is why high net worth families must utilize proper titling and spousal lifetime access trusts, or slats.

SPEAKER_00

So the sesslide bypasses that limit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. One spouse places assets into an irrevocable trust for the benefit of the other. Because it's irrevocable, Medicaid can't count the principal. But an independent trustee can still make distributions to the healthy spouse for their lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00

So it legally ring fences their dignity and security. I love that. Now we've talked a lot about the legal mechanisms, but we have to acknowledge the terrain. Strategy seven, the Florida factor.

SPEAKER_01

Right, the no state income tax edge.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Pulling 150 grand from an IRA in New York or California means an extra 15 to 20 grand just in state taxes. Florida residents avoid that entirely, which effectively reduces the care burden by what, 10 to 13 percent?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But you have to establish true domicile. You can't just be a snowbird, voter registration, declaration of domicile, it's strictly required.

SPEAKER_00

And we have to factor in the hidden multipliers that make these baseline costs accelerate so terrifyingly. Like inflation.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, healthcare inflation does not behave like normal inflation. It runs at four to five percent annually. So that$122,000 room today, it will cost over$200,000 by 2040.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. And the second multiplier is cognitive decline. Alzheimer's of memory care totally changed the equation, right?

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Specialized memory care adds thirty to fifty percent to the bill, reaching eighty to a hundred grand extra for specialized care. And it lasts an average of four to eight years.

SPEAKER_00

Which naturally brings us to the free care fallacy. Families see these numbers and think, I'll just take care of my spouse at home. It's free.

SPEAKER_01

But it's never free. It costs lost income, and it severely compromises the family's health and the patient's quality of care.

SPEAKER_00

It destroys the caregiver. So knowing all these strategies, the slats, the Roth conversions, it's useless if you miss the window to execute them.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. The golden window is between ages 50 and 65. Insurance requires good health for underwriting, Roth conversions require that window before RMDs, and remote trusts need that five-year runway. Starting at 70 is cutting it close. 80 is too late.

SPEAKER_00

So why should you care? Because there was a 70% probability of needing care after age 65. So taking Davy's wealth management's two-minute financial wellness quiz or booking a fiduciary audit with them is the difference between a reactive crisis and proactive wealth preservation.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

I'll leave you with this final thought to mull over. We spend our whole lives trying to ensure our wealth outlives us to create a legacy. But if an unplanned, decade long care event can rewrite your entire family tree's financial future in an instant, perhaps true legacy planning isn't about what you leave behind in a will. Perhaps it's about becoming the generation that financially insulates the family from the vulnerabilities of the human body. Think about that as you review your own blueprint.