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1715 Treasure Coast Financial Wellness with Thomas Davies
Wealth Manager Fees: What High-Net-Worth Investors Pay in 2026
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Imagine um just checking your portfolio one day and realizing that a silent, completely invisible partner has basically siphoned off a million dollars of your wealth over the last 20 years.
SPEAKER_02Right. And the craziest part about that.
SPEAKER_01Do you legally agree to let them do it?
SPEAKER_02Exactly. It's uh it's the ultimate compounding variable because the friction of those fees, it doesn't just subtract wealth that's already there, it actually prevents future wealth from ever existing in the first place. And yet, I mean it's something people just constantly clos over until the structural damage is already done.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Well, welcome to the deep dive, everyone. For you listening, if you're you know crossing that million-dollar portfolio threshold right now, or maybe you're already well past it, we are taking a really comprehensive look today into the true costs of wealth management in 2026.
SPEAKER_02Aaron Powell Yeah, we're basically decoding that visible sticker price, right. Versus the massive, and I mean massive shit-in costs of financial advice.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell We're pulling our insights today from a really brilliant 2026 guide by Davies Wealth Management. They are a fee-based fiduciary advisor located in Stewart, Florida.
SPEAKER_02Aaron Powell Right, on the Treasure Coast.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And they put this material together for the 1715 Treasure Coast Financial Wellness Podcast. So our mission here is pretty simple, honestly. We need to stop the leak.
SPEAKER_02Stop the leak. I like that.
SPEAKER_01We have to figure out how to evaluate these fees because once you hit that high net worth tier, this isn't just, you know, dry arithmetic anymore. It becomes this high-stakes, multimillion dollar strategy game.
SPEAKER_02Which is really why the scale of your wealth fundamentally alters how you should be viewing these costs. Because the document we're looking at, it's titled Cost for Financial Advisor, Five Essential Fee Models Explained.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02And it's an incredibly detailed roadmap of these seven critical costs that investors with portfolios over a million dollars absolutely must understand. Most financial advice articles, they're geared toward an individual with maybe, I don't know, 100,000 to 300,000 saved.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the retail investor level.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. And at that level, a slightly higher fee percentage is mathematically, well, it's forgiving. But when an investor is dealing with $2 million, $5 million, or $10 million, the impact of just a fraction of a percent is absolutely staggering.
SPEAKER_01So let's um let's put a lens on that scale for a second. Because a 1% annual fee on a $100,000 account, that's $1,000. Right. It's a manageable cost. It's you know a nice dinner out or two.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01But a 1% fee on a $5 million portfolio, that is $50,000 a year.
SPEAKER_02Aaron Ross Powell Every single year.
SPEAKER_01Trevor Burrus Every year. Regardless of whether the market goes up or down.
SPEAKER_02Aaron Powell And the calculation goes so much deeper than just multiplying $50,000 by 20 years to get a million dollars.
SPEAKER_01Trevor Burrus Right, because of compounding.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. The true danger here is the compounded opportunity cost. That $50,000 leaves your account, it is no longer invested, it's not compounding at that 6 or 8% return alongside the rest of your capital.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So when you stretch that out over two decades, the difference between a 0.75% fee structure and a 1.25% fee structure on a large portfolio, I mean, it easily exceeds a million dollars in lost or rather uncreated wealth.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Okay, but let me play devil's advocate here for a second. Sure. Trevor Burrus Isn't a 1% fee essentially just the baseline cost of admission to the financial markets? Like if an investor's portfolio is up 10% for the year, sweating a quarter of a percent difference, it kind of feels like agonizing over the price of a life jacket while you're cruising on a super yacht.
SPEAKER_02Aaron Powell That's a great analogy, actually. But here's the thing if all the advisor is doing is handing you a life jacket, meaning they're just picking a few mutual funds for you, then you are vastly overpaying.
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_02A retail investor might look exclusively at portfolio returns to justify a fee, right? But a high net worth investor, they have to look at the entire financial architecture.
SPEAKER_01Which means what exactly?
SPEAKER_02We are talking about business interests, deferred compensation, concentrated stock positions, estate planning. If an investor is paying that full 1%, the return on investment must come in the form of really complex tax savings, interdisciplinary coordination, legal accountability. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_01It can't just be for asset allocation.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. It cannot just be for picking stocks.
SPEAKER_01Which brings us to how these fees are actually structured on paper. The source material outlines five essential fee models. These represent the visible costs, the numbers that actually print out on your billing statement.
SPEAKER_02Right, the stuff you can see. And the most prevalent one is the AUM model or assets under management.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Where the investor pays a percentage of the assets the advisor is directly managing.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01And the strategy here, if I'm reading this right, for a larger portfolio is leveraging a tiered schedule, right? Like the percentage should actively decline as the portfolio scales up.
SPEAKER_02Correct. You really want to see those breakpoints. For portfolios in the say 500,000 to 1 million range, the industry to 5% annually. Okay.
SPEAKER_01But as that scales up into the five to 10 million tier, you should see that rate compress. It should drop down to between 0.50 and 0.75%.
SPEAKER_02And above 10 million.
SPEAKER_01Above 10 million, it's frequently negotiated down even further to 0.35 to 0.60%. But honestly, the core issue isn't just the percentage itself. It's what specific planning services are actually bundled into that rate.
SPEAKER_02Right. What are you actually getting for that money? But wait, that AUM model assumes the wealth is mostly liquid, right? Like stocks and bonds. So what about the flatter retainer fee model? Because the source notes, this is a fixed dollar amount, usually 10,000 to 50,000 or more per year, regardless of the portfolio size.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and this model is absolutely crucial for high net worth individuals whose financial lives are incredibly complex, but whose assets might be almost entirely illiquid.
SPEAKER_02Okay, give me an example of that.
SPEAKER_01Think of someone whose wealth is totally tied up in commercial real estate or maybe a privately held business. Ah, okay. So say an investor has an $8 million estate, but $7.5 million of that is just the valuation of the private manufacturing business. Right. And they only have half million liquid in the actual stock market. An AUM model would completely fail them, wouldn't it?
SPEAKER_02It would be a disaster. Because the advisor would only get paid a percentage on that $500,000. Meaning they literally couldn't afford to dedicate the hundreds of hours required to structure the business succession plan, the tax mitigation for an eventual sale, or all the complex estate trusts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that makes total sense. They wouldn't be compensated for the actual heavy lifting.
SPEAKER_02That is the exact friction point. A flat retainer fee aligns the advisor's compensation with the actual complexity and volume of the work being done rather than just blindly tethering it to the balance of a brokerage account.
SPEAKER_01Which brings us to the third one: hourly fees, ranging from 250 to 500 plus per hour. My read on this, based on the Davies guide, is that it's a bit of a trap for high net worth investors who are just trying to aggressively minimize their visible costs.
SPEAKER_02It is often a huge trap. Look, hourly billing is perfectly fine for a localized, highly specific project. Like what? Like getting a second opinion on a specific social security strategy or a one-off tax question. But high net worth planning requires structural oversight.
SPEAKER_01You need an architect, basically.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. It requires someone constantly monitoring tax legislation, market shifts, estate laws all throughout the year. When the meter is running by the hour, clients hesitate to call.
SPEAKER_01Oh, for sure. Every phone call feels like it's costing you a hundred bucks.
SPEAKER_02Right. And advisors hesitate to proactively research because they have to bill for it. You completely lose that ongoing architectural accountability.
SPEAKER_01Which naturally leads us to the fourth model, fee-based. And this is the structure Davies Wealth Management actually utilizes. It combines advisory fees for investment management with explicitly disclosed commissions on specific, highly regulated products like insurance or annuities, but only when those are structurally necessary for the plan.
SPEAKER_02And the absolute operational keyword in that entire model is disclosed.
SPEAKER_01Transparent.
SPEAKER_02Transparency has to be the absolute standard. The investor must be able to see exactly how the advisor is compensated for every single recommendation. That is quite literally the only way an investor can evaluate the advice objectively.
SPEAKER_01And that transparency contrasts really sharply with the fifth model, which is commission only. I mean, if a fee-based or retainer model is like a holistic wellness concierge who monitors your health all year, a commission-only model is basically like a doctor who only gets paid when they prescribe you a pill.
SPEAKER_02Wow, yes. That captures the inherent conflict of interest perfectly because a commission-only structure relies entirely on transactions.
SPEAKER_01So they have to sell you something to eat.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. The advisor's livelihood depends on moving clients' money from one product to another. This inherently creates a ties toward activity over long-term strategy, which is, of course, the exact opposite of what a complex long horizon portfolio actually requires.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so we've covered the visible sticker price, the first five costs. Yeah. Now we need to look below the water line.
SPEAKER_02This is where it gets scary.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. If the stated advisory fee is the visible iceberg, there is a massive chunk of ice tearing up the hull of the ship underneath. The Davies Guide highlights two critical hidden costs that just quietly drag down portfolio performance.
SPEAKER_02Cost number six encompasses institutional and platform costs. And I'd say the most insidious culprit within this category is underlying fund expense ratios.
SPEAKER_01This is where the math gets genuinely stealthy.
SPEAKER_02Very stealthy.
SPEAKER_01Because if an advisor places a portfolio into actively manage mutual funds, those funds have their own internal operating costs, right? That's right.
SPEAKER_02The portfolio manager of that mutual fund has to get paid.
SPEAKER_01And that can add an extra 0.50 to a full 1% annually. And the investor never sees this itemized on a monthly statement. It's just quietly skimmed off the top of the fund's returns before the numbers are even reported.
SPEAKER_02It functions exactly like a silent mathematical drag. Think about it. If an investor is paying a 1% AUM fee to their advisor, and the portfolio is loaded up with active funds, charging another 0.75% internally, then the actual cost burden is 1.75%. Yes. And on a $5 million portfolio, that investor is bleeding $87,500 a year in total costs. This is precisely why a fiduciary advisor will intentionally utilize low-cost index funds and exchange traded funds to just violently reduce that internal drag.
SPEAKER_01It's honestly less like buying overpriced drinks at a club and more like having a business partner who legally skims 1% off the top of your gross revenue before you even get to see the accounting books.
SPEAKER_02That is painfully accurate.
SPEAKER_01Let me push you on this because I know what people are thinking. If I have $10 million, surely I get access to exclusive, actively managed alternative assets, right? Like private equity, hedge funds, the stuff that actually does beat the index. Why wouldn't I happily pay a 2% internal cost for a hotshot manager who is making me a 15% return?
SPEAKER_02It's a fair question. The issue, though, is the hurdle rate over a long time horizon. For an active manager charging a premium to be statistically worth it, they don't just have to beat the benchmark index. They have to beat the index by more than their internal fee every single year, just to break even for the investor.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell So they start every year in a hole.
SPEAKER_02Exactly, a deep hole. Now, while there are certainly highly illiquid niche alternative spaces where active management can capture unique premiums, the data is just ruthless regarding liquid equities.
SPEAKER_01Like standard stocks.
SPEAKER_02Over a 10 or 20 year horizon, incredibly few active managers consistently clear that net of fee hurdle. Rigidly minimizing those internal costs for the core of your portfolio is almost always the winning mathematical strategy.
SPEAKER_01Minimize the friction. Keep the internal fees near zero.
SPEAKER_02Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Okay. That brings us to the seventh critical cost, which the Davies Guide calls the ultimate hidden cost, tax drag.
SPEAKER_02Tax drag is the wealth killer that almost no one discusses during a standard portfolio review.
SPEAKER_00Why is that?
SPEAKER_02Because it's complicated and it requires constant vigilance. An advisor who generates excessive capital gains through frequent trading, or who fails to harvest tax losses systematically, or who just ignores the tax consequences of asset location, they are costing the investor real quantifiable capital.
SPEAKER_01The source guide makes a staggering point on this. It says for a high net worth investor sitting in the top federal tax bracket, poor tax management within the portfolio can actually cost more annually than the stated advisory fee itself.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, let that sink in. Which means tax efficiency has to be a daily, year-round mandate for the wealth manager. It is not just a springtime activity for your CPA.
SPEAKER_01Right. You can't just dump it on the accountant in April.
SPEAKER_02No, it's too late by then. For instance, for investors with equity portfolios over $500,000, sophisticated advisors can deploy something called direct indexing.
SPEAKER_01Okay, break that down for us.
SPEAKER_02So instead of buying a mutual fund that tracks, say, the SP 500, the investor directly owns the individual stocks that make up the index in the correct proportions.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so you own all 500 individual stocks. Walk me through how that actually generates a tax advantage.
SPEAKER_02Well, in a mutual fund, if the overall fund goes up, you can't isolate the underlying stocks that went down. You're just stuck with the net gain. But with direct indexing, the advisor software monitors all those individual securities constantly.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I see where this is going.
SPEAKER_02Right. So if the broader market is up, but a handful of specific tech or healthcare stocks take a dive, the advisor can sell just those specific losing stocks to capture the tax write-off.
SPEAKER_01And then what happens to the money?
SPEAKER_02They then immediately reinvest that capital into highly correlated alternative stocks to maintain the overall asset allocation. It essentially mines the internal volatility of the index to harvest tax losses, which offsets other capital gains the investor might have elsewhere.
SPEAKER_01That is wild.
SPEAKER_02It meaningfully improves after tax returns. It's a game changer.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so if this invisible drag, the fund fees, the tax drag, the advisory fees, if all of that is pulling upwards of 1.5 or 2% out of a portfolio, what is the mathematical counterweight? Like what exactly does a high net worth investor receive to justify these costs and actually outpace that friction?
SPEAKER_02Well, we can look at the Vanguard Advisors Alpha study for a baseline on this.
SPEAKER_01Okay. What did they find?
SPEAKER_02They estimate that a comprehensively implemented advisor relationship can add approximately 3% in net returns annually.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell 3%? That's huge.
SPEAKER_02It is. But crucially, that alpha, that extra return, it doesn't come from a magical ability to pick winning stocks.
SPEAKER_01Right. We already established that doesn't really work long term. So where does it come from?
SPEAKER_02It comes from behavioral coaching, for one, meaning preventing the investor from capitulating and selling everything during a 20% market correction.
SPEAKER_01Talking them off the ledge.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. And secondly, it comes from meticulous architectural PAX planning. A great advisor acts as a financial quarterback.
SPEAKER_01So what specific high-level plays should this quarterback be calling to generate that 3% value?
SPEAKER_02Let's break down a few structural strategies that Davies points out. First, are Roth conversion ladders. Okay. And advisors should look for low-income windows. Perhaps the years immediately after you retire, but before your required minimum distributions or RMDs begin.
SPEAKER_01Because your income drops during those years. Right.
SPEAKER_02During those years, they systematically convert traditional tax-deferred IRA assets into Roth assets. The client pays taxes at their current lower bracket, which permanently shields that capital and its future growth from the much higher tax brackets they will face later in life.
SPEAKER_01That is brilliant, which perfectly transitions into IRMAA management. IRMAA stands for the income-related monthly adjustment amount. Yes. It's essentially a self-tax, right? Yeah. A Medicare surcharge that hits you if your modified adjusted gross income crosses specific thresholds. Walk me through how an advisor actually manages that cliff.
SPEAKER_02It requires really precise income staging. An advisor manages IRMAA by monitoring the client's taxable income closely as the year progresses. Okay. If taking another distribution from a traditional IRA would push that client over the Medicare surcharge cliff, which triggers thousands of dollars in extra Medicare premiums, the advisor pivots.
SPEAKER_01They stop pulling from the IRA.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. They pull the required living expenses from a tax-free bucket instead, like a Roth IRA or maybe the cash value of a life insurance policy, keeping the client's recognized income safely below that threshold.
SPEAKER_01Wow, so it's a constant balancing act. Another powerful mechanism the guide mentioned is the QCD or qualified charitable distribution. For an investor who is 70 and a half or older, they can make direct charitable contributions straight from their IRA.
SPEAKER_02Yes, and the brilliance here is that this satisfies the government's required minimum distribution without that money ever touching the investor's taxable income.
SPEAKER_01Oh, so it just bypasses the tax return entirely.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. For someone with a massive traditional IRA stacking QCDs avoids bumping them into a higher tax bracket just because the government forced them to withdraw money they didn't even need to spend.
SPEAKER_01Man, these strategies are incredible. But wait, there's also asset location?
SPEAKER_02Right. Not asset allocation, which is your mix of stocks and bonds, but location, where the assets literally sit. An advisor should aggressively place tax inefficient assets like high-yield bonds that throw off ordinary income into tax-deferred accounts like an IRA.
SPEAKER_01Because you don't want to pay taxes on that income every year.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. Conversely, highly tax-efficient assets, like broad market equity index funds that primarily generate qualified dividends, those are placed in taxable brokerage accounts. Simply rearranging where the assets live can generate tens of thousands of dollars in compounding tax savings over a decade.
SPEAKER_01Aaron Powell Literally just moving it from the left pocket to the right pocket.
SPEAKER_02That's it.
SPEAKER_01These are the mechanisms that actually justify an advisory fee. And that structural planning, it has to coordinate with the evolving estate tax landscape.
SPEAKER_02It absolutely does.
SPEAKER_01The Davies Guide highlights the sweeping impact of the 2026 One Big Beautiful Bill Act. And look, just to maintain total political neutrality for everyone listening, we are purely looking at the financial mechanics of this legislation as outlined in the source. We're not taking any sides here.
SPEAKER_02Of course.
SPEAKER_01But basically, this act makes the federal estate tax exemption permanent at $15 million per individual, or $30 million for a married couple.
SPEAKER_02Which permanently alters the estate planning playbook. I mean, for decades, a major focus of high net worth estate planning was frantically moving assets out of the estate before death.
SPEAKER_01To avoid the estate tax.
SPEAKER_02Right, to avoid that massive 40% federal estate tax hit. But because this $30 million exemption is now permanent, that deadline-driven urgency vanishes for the vast majority of investors.
SPEAKER_01Which means the strategy shifts entirely. If the federal tax is no longer the immediate threat, what is the new primary objective?
SPEAKER_02Maximizing the step up in basis.
SPEAKER_01Okay, just to clarify the mechanism for the listener, a step up in basis essentially resets the taxable value of an asset when it's passed on to an heir.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01So if an investor bought a stock for $100,000 and it grew to $2 million over their lifetime, their heirs inherit it with a new basis of $2 million.
SPEAKER_02Which is huge.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because the $1.9 million of capital gains just vanishes from a tax perspective.
SPEAKER_02It's completely wiped out. So the advisor's job is now to strategically hold highly appreciated assets within the estate to capture that step up while utilizing mechanisms like dynasty trusts to protect those assets from the heirs, potential creditors, or future divorces.
SPEAKER_01So how does an investor actually verify that their advisor is capable of executing this level of complexity? I mean, the source emphasizes the fiduciary standard, the legal obligation to act in the client's best financial interest, which is how Davies wealth management operates. But how do we translate that legal standard into real-world red and green flags for the listener?
SPEAKER_02Well, a glaring red flag is a portfolio stuffed with high internal cost active funds, paired with total radio silence on proactive tax planning.
SPEAKER_01Basically, if they just set it and forget it.
SPEAKER_02Right. If an investor's estate plan, insurance policies, and investment portfolio have never been reviewed together in the same room by the advisor and the estate attorney, the investor is almost certainly bleeding capital.
SPEAKER_01And the green flags.
SPEAKER_02A green flag is an advisor who initiates tax planning strategies, like those Roth conversions or direct indexing, without the client even having to suggest them.
SPEAKER_01They bring the ideas to you.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. It's receiving a comprehensive written financial plan that models multiple future scenarios and it's updated every single year. It's an advisor who views the CPA and the estate attorney as essential teammates and actively coordinates with them.
SPEAKER_01I want to pose a practical challenge based on all of this.
SPEAKER_02Let's hear it.
SPEAKER_01Because if a listener realizes right now they need to scrutinize their current advisory relationship, how can they confidently ask their advisor to quantify this value? Like, what is the actual litmus test if the advisor just points to last year's SP 500 returns and says, hey, look how much money we made you?
SPEAKER_02That is a very common deflection. The investor should demand a total fee disclosure in writing, period.
SPEAKER_01Meaning everything.
SPEAKER_02Everything. That means the stated advisory fee, the underlying fund expense ratios, and the transaction costs. Once that total structural cost is visible on the table, the investor asks one specific question. Which is can you outline and estimate the annual tax savings generated by your specific structural planning over this past year?
SPEAKER_01That is brilliant. Right. Because if the advisor deflects back to portfolio returns, which, let's be honest, are largely dictated by the macroeconomic environment, it means they aren't generating their own value through actual planning.
SPEAKER_02Precisely. For a multimillion dollar portfolio, the tax savings from asset location, direct indexing, and IRMAA management, those should routinely be in the tens of thousands of dollars. If the advisor cannot specifically point to those mechanisms, they just aren't utilizing them. The overarching reality here is that you cannot evaluate a high net worth wealth manager using retail investor metrics.
SPEAKER_01Wait, I think you mean Oh, sorry, yes.
SPEAKER_02Paying a fair price for genuine interdisciplinary expertise is an investment in wealth preservation, but it only functions as an investment if the transparency is absolute.
SPEAKER_01This just changes the entire perspective. The fee isn't just a deduction, it's an active lever. Well, before we wrap up this deep dive, I want to leave you, the listener, with a final forward-looking question to explore on your own. We discussed the massive 2026 Federal Estate Taxtion, which permanently protects up to 30 million for a married couple. But how does your specific state view your wealth?
SPEAKER_02And that is the blind spot for so many affluent families. Tell me about it. While the federal horizon is protected, numerous individual states enforce their own estate taxes with a dramatically lower thresholds. We are talking sometimes kicking in at just one or two million dollars.
SPEAKER_01So ask yourself right now, does your current financial advisor even know your state's specific estate tax threshold? Are they coordinating your trusts to mitigate a state-level wealth transfer tax, or are they only looking at the federal horizon?
SPEAKER_02Because if they aren't optimizing for your specific local jurisdiction, that is a massive, invisible leak in your financial hull.
SPEAKER_01It is exactly those nuanced questions that separate basic investment managers from true wealth architects.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely couldn't agree more.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into the true cost of wealth management. Remember, the sticker price on your financial advice isn't a simple, isolated transaction. It is a living, compounding variable that actively shapes the trajectory of your legacy. Evaluating your real total fee impact today is truly the most powerful investment you can make for your future wealth. Until next time.