From Stress to Self-Care: Riding the Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus Wave!

Can unpredictable planets really shake up your day? Find out how the recent Mercury-Uranus square is messing with our communication and making us feel burnt out. We share our own stories of coping with stress and the need for self-care during these cosmic shake-ups. Plus, discover how Uranus, Pluto, and Neptune in retrograde are stirring things up even more!

We also dive into the exciting blend of tech and spirituality, featuring Dr. Joe Dispenza’s work in quantum healing and how AI is being used in spiritual practices. Hear inspiring stories of overcoming physical challenges with a mix of natural remedies and high-tech treatments, showing the powerful potential at the crossroads of technology and spirituality.

Looking back, we explore how Neptune’s move into Aries has sparked major historical shifts, like the American Civil War, and consider how these planetary transits shape society. Lastly, we reflect on personal growth and finding lessons in our struggles, guided by these celestial influences. Join us as we explore these fascinating energies and the insights they bring!

Chapters

• 0:02 Navigating Energy Shifts in Daily Life
• 13:38 Technology & Spirituality
• 26:31 Navigating Planetary Transits and Energy
• 35:02 Journey of Self-Discovery

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:02

Hello, Hello hello.

Speaker 1: 0:04

We're chatting already and we just thought we'd hit record because it's starting to get good.

Speaker 2: 0:08

So we're diving on in.

Speaker 1: 0:09

We're talking about Uranus again and burnout because, Helena, you said you were experiencing it.

Speaker 1: 0:15

I know I am we just had a Mercury-Uranus square a few days ago. It's still sort of square-ish, I think, right now. I think it's interesting because Uranus just went retrograde. Now, we've experienced this before, of course, but Uranus has a funky energetic pattern, right. So if we think about this visually, the planet got whacked off of its orbit a whole bunch of years ago by something like an earth-sized, you know asteroid or something. Something hit it and it got hit so hard the entire planet tipped on its side. My brain cannot conceive that kind of a smack in the universe. Right feels like a saturn smack the head, doesn't it?

Speaker 1: 1:12

But the planet got tipped and I imagine the frequency coming from the planet has got a funky pattern, wobbly frequencies, right. So now the wobbly frequency literally just turned around and started tricking backwards. So I feel like that energy would be really noticeable. When the wobbly energy is now wobbling backwards and I think that's what we're feeling too it's not necessarily having any major transits with any of the other planets in the sky right now, but I think in general, just the wobbly frequency is something we can just feel. I know I can.

Speaker 2: 1:49

Yeah, and I mean not to downplay this Mercury square Uranus either, because this is something that happens. I mean Mercury goes retrograde a whole bunch, but around four times a year, a couple of times a year, mercury will be square to Uranus. Okay, yes, and when this happens, we have the planet of communication and how we process information. That planet is, you know, being touched by uranus in this very challenging aspect. Just this, just mercury square to uran. It's very disturbing because then it affects, like, how we communicate with people. Like a lot of things will come out of the blue, from people around you know, unexpected things and challenging things, and it's probably been a little bit harder to communicate this last couple of days.

Speaker 1: 2:41

Well, that's how we started off. Our call today was me basically just frustratingly dumping the communication challenges I'm having at home with my partner, with my children, with like everybody around me. It's just the communication's either not there at all, or if it is there, it's got some kind of I keep feeling this rebellious energy to it.

Speaker 2: 3:11

Yes.

Speaker 1: 3:11

So burnout is definitely a thing. There's a whole generation of people who are experiencing burnout and don't know it. They don't know what to do with it, they don't have tools in their toolbox, and I know this because I was one of them. I experienced burnout. It almost killed me, and I'm not saying that lightly, and it's something I take very seriously now, like very seriously, because I do have five children and I am 42 years old and I don't believe I'm perimenopausal yet.

Speaker 1: 3:46

I feel really, really good in that department so far, but I do know that's coming eventually and I know that the energy center of, or the energy in the brain changes a lot with menopause and throughout the menopausal cycle, and I know I have to be mindful of how I'm treating myself and putting myself care needs first and dealing with my stress and knowing when to step away or whatever. And it is a it is a practice. It is a practice and there are not a lot of people who are able to do it well and do the practice and they don't know what to practice, and I didn't either. I didn't either, and I think it's something we have to talk about more right. We have to talk about tools and tips and tricks and what to do, because Uranus is still trekking through Taurus for a while, till 2026. We still are learning the foundational energy around dealing with our nervous system. Yeah, creating that new foundation on how to manage our stress.

Speaker 2: 4:53

But I'm thinking now looking at the chart and like not seeing these like any other hard aspects, but I am looking at them the sort of pointed arrow between Uranus, pluto and Neptune. They are having a I'm not so sure what to call this. It's like yeah, what is that? Yeah, what is that it's like? So we have Pluto and Uranus which are sextile to neptune, so it's sort of um, yeah, it's, it's this, it's this funny, um cool shape and it's a supportive one. These, like they are having um an easy, flowing conversation, but these three planets are, they're nothing to like joke around with. They plan to move super slow and they cause a lot of change and having these.

Speaker 2: 5:52

They're all three retrograde right now too and and they have been in this shape for a very long time. And this to me, when I'm thinking about it, because I'm like, well, they're talking to each other in a good way, yeah, but these, these positions to each other, that they are actually having this very tight conversation to each other, having, like the direct call, the direct link to each other.

Speaker 1: 6:17

This means a very active energy right, it's, yeah, they're talking to each other in a good way, but it's almost like, but they're talking to each other. Two friends in class that won't shut up, right, like these two, these two besties in the back of the room that just keep talking and talking and talking, even though there's somebody up on stage going. Right, these two just keep having this conversation. It's like it almost can get irritating to everyone else, because these two conversations are. These two people are really, really into it. Now, if you think about Uranus and you think about Neptune, I don't know about you and how, you know how you're talking with people in Sweden, but I know the people I'm working with here in America. Almost every single person I do a reading with is currently waking up quote unquote waking up to their skills, waking up to their abilities, waking up to their intuition, waking up to new ideas, new concepts. Well, isn't that what Neptune and Uranus are literally asking in Taurus and Pisces? Anchor yourself in new thought and open your dream, your dream, open your imagination.

Speaker 2: 7:27

Pluto's over there going yeah, and then we're going to transform everything, because now you think differently yeah, yes, it's so interesting thinking about this, this um, this little shape, because, yeah, it is so much like they have this direct link to each other and are talking to each other so, so loudly. And I feel like they have this direct link to each other and are talking to each other so so loudly and I feel like they're like on a secret mission together and they're like, you know, it's like those three people in class to continue on your metaphor who just have this amazing bond and they are like reading each other's thoughts and they, you know, finishing each other's sentences and they are sort of like riling each other up to do things. And they are sort of like riling each other up to do things. The three are very, very different personalities, but they are like riling each other up, making each other be sort of their most self I'm not saying their best self, but their most self.

Speaker 1: 8:18

I feel like we could do like a Ron, Hermione and Harry Potter situation here.

Speaker 2: 8:23

Yeah, right Like this is definitely like.

Speaker 1: 8:26

These three are very unique energies and when you put them together they really can do quite magical things. Transformation Think of Pluto. Every time I see the planet Pluto, I think of a phoenix, this bird that blows itself up, has a bunch of ashes and then like, births itself again over and over, and each time it's reborn it's like a different bird. It's different colors, different everything. So that the phoenix concept to me is fascinating, because it's really this like part of you has to die, a new part of you gets to be reborn, and like just this morning, for example, this is a Pluto situation.

Speaker 1: 9:10

I have Pluto in my sixth house of daily routines. Ok, so I am not somebody who can continue on the same routine over and over for years. It doesn't even last months, let alone weeks. This morning and yesterday morning I got my three-year-old to her preschool daycare, school thing, and we were there at like 8.03, which is unheard of for me to be anywhere at that time in the morning, let alone in a good mood and smiling. So we got her there and immediately after dropping her off I go a couple blocks down the road to go to the beach and walk up and down the beach. Now I've done this a couple times now.

Speaker 1: 9:50

I was driving home today. I had stopped at this little place in town and gotten a muffin and a fresh pressed juice. And I went home and I'm looking at the clock and it was 835. I had already gotten a walk in, I had created some reels, I dropped off my kid, I got a muffin. It was like I hung out by the beach and I'm driving home going.

Speaker 1: 10:11

Who am I? Who am I? Because this is not the Laura that I knew. And if you would have told me, even two years ago, that this is something I would be doing and not only doing, but willingly and craving it I would have laughed in your face. But that's what Pluto looks like, right, this transformation of who you are. Some old part of me died. I don't sleep in anymore. That's not a thing. And now I willingly get up and I go to the beach for a walk. That's weird and that's the Pluto transformation in my daily routines I've had. So, with Pluto transforming you, what's happening for you? Right, this is where we get to kind of go into our own personal experience, be like who and what is changing inside of me, and then that's talking to your spirituality and your intuition and your artistry and your flow and your creativity, neptune, and then that's talking to your weirdo, eccentric, unique, rebellious self.

Speaker 2: 11:09

So like something better change in these years for everybody, because yeah, no, the more I think about it, the more I am sort of amazed by this, uh, this um configuration between these planets, because these planets all move very slowly. Pluto is 248 years around, the zodiac, uh, neptune is, is 190.

Speaker 1: 11:35

90,. I think 80, 90, yeah, somewhere in there.

Speaker 2: 11:37

Yeah and Eunice is 88 years, I think, around the zodiac Yep Maybe 82, 80-something. So imagine what it takes for these three to be in this exact position right now. When was the last time this happened? I'm not so sure. I had to do a quick little google and this was not exact. But the last time pluto was trying to year to uranus was in the mid 1960s and the last time pluto was sextile to neptune was, uh, late 50s, early 60s, and also, and also Uranus sextile Neptune mid 60s. And this was not like as an exact degree, like they were not at the same time doing this exact thing as they're doing now, but it was sort of doing this similar shape as now, and around that time there was a lot of change in the world.

Speaker 1: 12:36

Heck, yeah, there was. You said late 50s and mid 60s.

Speaker 2: 12:41

The last time Pluto was trying to urinate was mid 60s, 65, 66.

Speaker 1: 12:46

That's really interesting. The last week I have done probably eight readings for people born in those years. Oh, for people born in those years, oh, I'm not even joking.

Speaker 2: 12:56

Interesting.

Speaker 1: 12:56

I keep getting clients from 1965, 66, and 67. I'm like what are you guys going through? What is happening with you? Wow, Well, this is interesting, isn't it.

Speaker 2: 13:07

It's really, really magical.

Speaker 1: 13:09

It is magical, especially if you look at the degree that they're at. Look at 27 degrees Uranus. So we're late degree Uranus now 28 degree Neptune and 29 degree Capricorn. These are all the latest degrees, where there's the most maturity, the most understanding, the most embodiment of that energetic signature of that zodiac that's so intriguing to think of.

Speaker 1: 13:38

I'm getting very excited and also I feel like it really explains a lot of the waking up I am helping people with. Like it seems to be unfolding, like my business is unfolding that way, unintentionally. I'm not like trying to find people who need to wake up Like it's just happening and I'm the I'm a facilitator of that. I'm not the I'm a facilitator of that. There's lots of other ways to facilitate, you know, people's spiritual awakenings, or tuning into their callings or their purposes or whatever. But man have I been dealing with a lot?

Speaker 2: 14:16

of people having these epiphanies or these awakenings or these stepping into a new version of themselves they've never seen before, never even imagined yeah, because, like, if you just look at these three planets, without even looking at the sign that they're in it's, pluto transformation and rebirth around Uranus, innovation, revolution and Neptune spirituality and going within at the same time as you're really going without, like you know, into, like out of space and also like everything that has to do with, like ai, how we're communicating with each other in, in these new, fascinating ways, and like we're just going beyond, like we're going so far out and so far in and like transformation, about all these things and well, the transformation with technology, that's what I see too right, that and like the face, face recognition when you grab your phone or like that stuff is just kind of like our norm.

Speaker 1: 15:24

But man, I still remember when computers just had a black screen with green numbers and they were huge. Like I remember those computers.

Speaker 2: 15:34

They sound like this Work, work, work.

Speaker 1: 15:36

Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I lived before the internet. I'm pre-Google, yes.

Speaker 2: 15:47

I find it really fascinating to see how how technology is merging with spirituality in many ways, and not in all ways, but in in many ways, the way they're coming together. I find it super fascinating and I think that it will really bring humanity these are, no, no small words I'm using today, but like bring us to sort of the next level, like see, because, I agree, we're just on such a I feel like we're on a ledge just about to, like, you know, something is going to launch. Yes, that's how I feel like.

Speaker 1: 16:26

So I watched a documentary called the source by, uh, dr joseph dispenza. Joseph Dispenza, joe Dispenza If you have not read his books, do it. They're phenomenal. And he is breakthrough, cutting edge doctor when it comes to quantum healing, using the power of the mind to heal the body, healing your own self, and right now he's using technology with meditation and spirituality, but for deep healing. So he's getting groups, huge groups of people together with very intentional, very deep, very specific type of meditation, slash hypnosis stuff, and they're being monitored with like sticky things on their heads and heart monitors and all of this and everybody's being monitored and sensors and everything. And the healing and the transformation and the shit that's taking place is nothing short of a miracle. It is literally miraculous and I was like I bet Jesus could do this shit too, but he was way ahead of his time.

Speaker 1: 17:30

I'm pretty sure this is how this stuff happened Right.

Speaker 1: 17:33

So essentially, he's Joe Dispenza. Dr Dispenza is tapped into this hidden knowledge or this unseen knowledge, and he's using technology to show us right. He's using this technology to help us merge that spiritual component of connecting to source God universe whatever component of connecting to source God universe, whatever and utilizing it in the 3D reality to control ourselves and tell ourselves what to do, where to go, how to heal, what to get rid of. And I'm pretty passionate about this subject because in 2017, I was deemed partially paralyzed with the lumbar discs in my back L1, 2, 3, and 4 were completely degenerated and I was getting really close to bone on bone.

Speaker 1: 18:20

It was really terrible. I had massive sciatica. I could not move except for standing or laying down, and I was doing everything I could naturally. But I cannot do like pharmaceutical medications with anything pain reducing stuff and my liver is very, very sensitive to all that. So I'm really limited on the medications I can use. So I was really doing a lot of natural healing with THC, cbd, essential oils, supplements and everything I could turmeric, frankincense, all of it. So that's why I threw myself into aromatherapy. But that wasn't quite enough and I needed to do something more, and I was introduced to some stem cell treatments and explained what it was taught all about it.

Speaker 1: 19:04

And I went and did it. I went and did stem cell transplants and they take fat from your own body and then they spin it around and then they inject it into you and I like healed in it around and then they inject it into you and I like, healed, I healed, I healed to the point where I was able to carry two more babies with zero pain and, like, manage two pregnancies. And now I do yoga and high kicks and all this shit, right, oh my God. And I think about the miraculousness of that technology, right, and this, and then the spiritual component, with the, with the physical healing, and like I think all of this with the technology, the spirituality, and then the healing with neptune and pisces is so amazing and we are just starting to understand it just now, and when uranus goes into gemini, I think, and then pl Pluto's in Aquarius, I think our understanding is going to take a

Speaker 1: 20:03

huge leap forward? Yes, I think so too. So this I'm really passionate about this. I've seen the power of plant oils and aromatherapy for a decade now and like what that can do for, you know, all sorts of healing. So I've already been in like with the spirituality. And then I use my science books to be like, yep, and here's the chemistry of it. And now we're just taking the technology and being like, yes, and here's the spectrum and here's the various wavelengths and here's, you know, we can show people now we can give them the actual visual aid of the spiritual or the whatever. So exactly.

Speaker 2: 20:41

I love this shit. Yeah, I feel like, maybe, like some people feel like technology is almost like a bad word, like a curse word. I think like there's so much that that is in the world of technology, like just what you said. That's technology. When you, um, when you make a, a tincture, uh, and you make like a like home, um, when you make a tincture, when you make it's called homeopathic, yep, yeah, that's also technology and so. So technology doesn't have to mean like robots it's. It's something that it's just an innovative way of using the, the herb or the flower or the whatever in a new way, yeah, finding a new way to make it work for us.

Speaker 1: 21:36

Well, and isn't that what Uranus and Taurus is asking us to do with the plants? And the food and the earth Find a new way to be with the earth.

Speaker 1: 21:45

Find a new way to use the earth in a better way. Find a new way. That's really what we're supposed to be learning here, and, yes, I think there's a lot of us who are. I think TikTok has been amazingly helpful for showing me all of the cool stuff people are doing, whether it's gathering plastics out of the ocean or finding enzymes to eat the plastics, or making period panties that are free of phthalates or whatever. Whatever it is right. There are people doing things to make things safer, for us, to make the earth safer, and Taurus is stubborn, so we still have a lot of stuck energy, with people still doing things the old way right, still utilizing single-use everything or plastic, whatevers. There's so much change that still needs to happen, but I think that's the cycle that we're in right now, with Uranus, and Taurus is really taking a look at utilizing the earthly resources we have in new ways.

Speaker 2: 22:49

Yes, when is Uranus moving into Gemini?

Speaker 1: 22:53

It'll first dive its toes in there July 7th 2025. Then it goes back in November and then April 26th 2026 is when it will settle in. Gemini.

Speaker 2: 23:07

So 4, 26, 26.

Speaker 1: 23:10

Yeah, yep, then we will be in a new revelation of understanding. This is going to be an interesting Gemini Uranus situation.

Speaker 2: 23:19

Yeah, yeah, like Gemini is an air sign and I feel like Gemini energy is so fast, so, going from Taurus the most slow, I think I think so too. I agree. Slow, I think I think so too. I agree. Stubborn and slow, but meticulous and super loyal and really a lot of great things. But uh, like that's a big shift going from that earthy energy into that light, airy butterfly like, and then with, with uranus being the being the one in Gemini, I am very intrigued of how that's going to look.

Speaker 1: 24:01

Yeah, should be really interesting, because Gemini is so interested in information and Uranus is so about technologies and bringing in new ways of doing things. So we've now got lots of information and understanding and then these new, sudden changes.

Speaker 1: 24:23

I think it's going to be a massive revolution in um, all things. Technology for sure, yeah, computers, but you're going to see a lot of patents coming out. People are going to learn how to patent stuff or license things. There's going to be a lot of like this is mine, this is my idea. I came up with this, so I think there's going to be, and then Gemini's Two-Face, so there may be somebody trying to take people's ideas.

Speaker 2: 24:49

Yeah, I feel like the world of technology is just going to expand times a million or something, because then, yeah, you have Uranus going into Gemini, and then we have Pluto going into Aquarius another air sign, something that is wanting to really push something forward fast and then we have Neptune going into A aries, and this is in in a long while, but still this is happening and they're still sort of traveling together, these three planets they are.

Speaker 2: 25:20

They're moving from two earth signs and a water sign to two air signs and a fire sign I love air and fire. It's my favorite hey yeah, you are air and fire, so I know this is my favorite.

Speaker 1: 25:36

Yep, what's your point?

Speaker 2: 25:37

yeah, all right, I'm ready for this but so if you mix those two, if you just you mix those two elements, you get a wildfire, learning how to play with it exactly yeah, so as somebody who's born with this.

Speaker 1: 25:51

it's taken a while and I did a lot of bridge burning and a lot of burning of all the things. This is going to look interesting. It really really is. I think this is going to be. Neptune moves into Aries in 2025 as well. So, yeah, they're moving together. So yeah, they're moving together, and I'm curious about what this might look like for our awakening, because now people are waking up to what the government has been lying to us and that the you know all of the lying. Oh my gosh, helena, I'm watching so many reels come out about phthalates in our lotions and these phthalates are endocrine disruptors. They really screw with your hormones.

Speaker 1: 26:39

And I'm watching about. Oh, your beauty products and your lotions and your hair care products, and then these toxins in your tampons and all this. I have been teaching this for a decade, like I literally got exhausted trying to wake people up and teach them this, because nobody was really listening and I think I was just too early.

Speaker 1: 27:00

Yeah people weren't ready for it and I literally was teaching this in 2011 and 2012 going. You're poisoned everywhere you look everywhere. It's in your care, with your shampoo, it's in your toothpaste with the fluoride, it's in the soap at the grocery store or the public places with the triclosan is terrible. It's everywhere and I think people are finally waking up to this. Now there's more and more apps. One of them is called Skin Deep, and you can scan your products to see what the rating is. So that's cool, but now we need to get mad about it. We need the healing planet of Neptune to get into Aries so that we can burn some old ways of doing things and we can heal better.

Speaker 1: 27:53

Almost like cauterize the wound right. We got to cut this leg off and just cauterize it right, like sometimes maybe there's a branch of government that just needs to get shut down or rebuilt. I don't know. I don't know, maybe we need to get lobbyists out of the government. I'm not sure what needs to happen, but people are not going to tolerate this much longer and I think the waking up stuff to the lies is what's happening right now with Neptune at tail end of Pisces, because we've been kind of delusioned, right Disillusioned, and now when we get into Aries we'll be able to see clearly fusioned. And now when we get into Aries we'll be able to see clearly, we'll be able to Neptune moving into Aries. It's like almost like you can see the fireball of the sun through the fog sometimes, right, you can at least see it a little bit. I think that fiery Aries energy is going to help to light the way of how we can do healing as a collective, and then that sex style with Urananus is gonna last for a while I'm excited for this.

Speaker 2: 28:55

I'm not quite as excited as you. I'm still a little hesitant to what it's gonna look like with neptune in in aries. But um, I'm telling myself also, it doesn't have to be a wildfire, it can also be like a hot air balloon. You know it can be a control but, like it's like with everything, what we always say with astrology you can use it. You can use energies in so many different ways, so you can sort of, while they can be a wildfire, they can also be a way where you can just go up in a hot air balloon and like look at the most amazing views in a super peaceful and serene way.

Speaker 1: 29:30

Yeah, Using just way, using just air and heat. I love hot air balloons. I've been on one and I feel like I am one.

Speaker 1: 29:39

I use that reference for myself a lot because it is peaceful and you do have some control over it, but not really, but sort of. But you do have to flow with the air current, right, like you do have to recognize that there's that. But you've got the fire and you can go up higher, you can go down lower, but yeah, hot air balloons, I think, are a great description for this energy coming up. The last time Neptune was there was 1861.

Speaker 2: 30:11

What era are we in then?

Speaker 1: 30:13

I don't know if you know that, but that was when the American Civil War started was 1861. Remember when you said we have to burn a branch of the government.

Speaker 2: 30:23

Yeah, no, I definitely. But I definitely feel like, you know, in like three, four years, there's going to be really like a lot of big change Because, like we said earlier, these three giant planets, these three giants are at the tail end of their signs and being at the tail end of the sign is a very, very, very, very potent energy and they're being here right now that the three slowest moving planets in the zodiac at the same time being at the last degree of their sign, together, while making this trine and sextiles to each other. It's what a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. You know, like how well, how is this going to look? I have no idea, but you know, when you look back at history, at some eras have been more active than others. There's been a lot more fast change than others, and I feel like we're in one of those eras right now yeah, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 1: 31:31

I agree it feels very transformative and that's. It's like that with our birth chart right Some years. For a couple of years things are peaceful and calm and just kind of chill, and some years it's like bam, bam, bam, bam bam.

Speaker 1: 31:49

And you just get cosmically smacked over and over and I think that's where we're definitely in a cosmic smacking up over here just in general, with some of these big transits, these big moves. I agree, yeah, it's interesting to look at the history of neptune and just dive into kind of all of the era of it. It was actually discovered in 1846 and then it moved into Pisces in 1847, like just shortly after it was discovered. So it was discovered right before moving into Pisces and then it kind of went nebulous for a while. But it was 1847 to 1862 was the last time it was in pisces 1847, 1862, and now it's obviously there now. But interesting.

Speaker 2: 32:40

I wish I knew more about history I know, I know absolutely.

Speaker 1: 32:44

We should get a historian buff on the show and talk about I'm just getting like pictures.

Speaker 2: 32:49

I'm getting like pictures in my head how people would dress, but I'm not really connecting it to what was happening in the world at that time Late 1800s, yeah 1840.

Speaker 1: 33:02

What did I say now? 47 to 62.

Speaker 2: 33:03

Is that industrialism?

Speaker 1: 33:05

No, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 33:09

You're talking to too much.

Speaker 1: 33:10

Aquarius, over here, I'm future lady. I'll tell you what's coming up. Yeah, no idea what happened. I have no idea, not a clue.

Speaker 2: 33:19

So I hope, I hope this was revolutionarily insightful for you, because I feel like that's what we're supposed to be finding out is these little revolutionary insights and how we can change our life a little bit at a time, with that uranus still trekking through taurus yes, to tie back to the beginning of the of the episode, like with burnout, because these three planets are at this, these potent degrees right now and talking so loudly to each other.

Speaker 2: 33:51

I do feel like the activity of that, because it's so active, being blasted with a lot of energy, and I think that just on its own is a reason to feel like burned out because there's just so much coming in. So I guess what I'm gonna do, what you're gonna do, is tell me I'm just trying to figure out as I'm speaking like what am I going to do? I need to sort of become friends with this, know and accept that there's a lot of energy coming and I will have to let it through me. I guess it cannot be stuck in me. I have to let it go through me, like I will. I think I just have to be okay with feeling a lot of things and feeling a lot of maybe new, uncomfortable with uranus things and like with neptune. They're like our inner world, are also very connected and and all of this might feel a little uncomfortable because it's so much energy and I need to become sort of friends with that.

Speaker 1: 34:52

I emotion and then looking at where it falls in your chart. Personally, I think that's helpful to see which houses and stuff yes, of course yeah. Yeah. What's the lesson in it for you? What is this here to teach me? What? What am I going through this for Right? These are, these are the questions. What is this here to teach me? Those are that's my main thing I ask myself, especially when I'm struggling oh, I need to learn something here. What am I supposed to be learning?

Speaker 2: 35:21

Yeah, honestly, I don't know why more people are not talking about this conversation between these three planets. It feels like a big player it does.

Speaker 1: 35:32

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