Scorpio's Energetic Dance: Balancing Change and Stability

Would you embrace profound change if it meant unlocking a new chapter of your life?" In this episode, we journey through Scorpio season, a time synonymous with transformation, where death is not just an end but a metaphor for renewal. We explore the intricate dance between Scorpio's transformative energy and Taurus's craving for stability, unveiling why some people welcome change while others shy away. With a spotlight on Pluto's cosmic influence, we unravel the dynamics that shape our experiences and perceptions of transformation.

A personal story about managing family dynamics during a Scorpio birthday celebration offers insight into the challenges of setting boundaries and maintaining emotional health. As emotions run high, the episode touches on Scorpio's traits of control and self-restraint, and the necessity of transforming intense emotions into constructive energy. This discussion highlights the importance of balance, self-care, and the transformative power of setting boundaries, fostering healthier energy exchanges within families and beyond.

We also traverse the spiritual landscape, shifting perspectives on death from sorrow to gratitude and questioning religious constructs that have overshadowed original spiritual teachings. As Pluto moves into Aquarius, we anticipate a societal transformation that aligns with the broader cosmic themes at play. Scorpio's intense energy is felt across various astrological houses, revealing its capacity to transform personal and societal realms, prompting a deeper understanding and embrace of one's astrological chart for personal growth. Come along as we unravel these mysteries and embrace the transformative potential of Scorpio season.

Chapters

• 0:05 Transformation in Scorpio Season
• 14:55 Setting Scorpio Boundaries for Self-Protection
• 28:26 Navigating Boundaries and Traditions
• 40:47 The Spiritual Shift and Connection
• 48:14 Scorpio Energy and Intense Transformations
• 1:03:30 Exploring Scorpio Energy in Houses
• 1:10:31 Scorpio Energy in Houses

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:05

hello, hello, welcome to ram and goat astrology. I am laura lee and I am helena.

Speaker 3: 0:12

Hello, hi, hi. So now, like we're properly starting with this new schedule of ours, we are recording an episode for every second week.

Speaker 2: 0:25

It feels and this is our 101st episode. So, it feels like we kind of did like an end reset Slow down yeah reset.

Speaker 2: 0:37

Yeah, slow down is for sure. I have to slow down. If I don't I'm going to develop some health issues, per my Reiki lady I saw, and also my intuitive knowledge. But yeah, I've got to do some shifting of my own energy into Taurus time, which is the opposite sign of what we're talking about today. We're going to chat a bit about Scorpio and so it makes sense that I would be working on doing Taurus time energy and slowing down, valuing myself, valuing food and a good book and just all the Taurus themes, and that would be opposite the energy we're in right now, scorpio season that really helps with that transformation process, that's's great at.

Speaker 3: 1:26

Yes, so we you and I chatted the other day and we talked about like, so what should we record next? What should be the, the theme of the next episode? And I mean we're about Scorpio season and Pluto and everything that these two bring that I really am so fascinated about and I think it's really beautiful, the transformation, like the ending part of something, and like now we can see nature sort of dying in the northern hemisphere, and it sounds wrong. But, like you know, I was like let's talk about death. I really want to talk about, yeah, like death and everything around it, because death is also such a a thing that I don't think that we talk about enough, like it's such a thing that I don't think that we talk about enough, like it's such a big part Not at all. No, we don't. It's a huge part of life. I mean, we're all going there, everything will die one day, and it just doesn't have to be so morbid.

Speaker 2: 2:37

Right, including cultures, civilizations. The way the earth is actually looks right now like all of that will change. One of the things Philip and I do a lot is we watch a lot of ancient history shows like ancient ancient histories or ancient aliens on History Channel and we're really fascinated by these cultures from like 12,000 years ago where supposedly it was very primitive people, but there's tons of evidence where they use lasers and had massive machines or something to move giant rocks. But that whole culture, the whole civilization, all of it is dead.

Speaker 3: 3:14

It's not here.

Speaker 2: 3:15

It's transferred into something else and we are all going to transfer into something else.

Speaker 3: 3:21

And a lot of people are scared to talk about it because I think that a huge part of that is that it, it, it sure brings change.

Speaker 3: 3:31

You know it's the end of a cycle, it's the end of the life cycle and um, and even not like, just like, even this, this physical death, but there's also, like you know, a part of you can die and and change, because you maybe you need that part anymore. Your situations change, you know, um, relationships die, yes, and you move on, uh, parts of you, like an old, you know you have your older self, like a, you know, so you can't constantly. Yeah, we're constantly in this, in this uh circle that just keeps spinning, and a part of that circle is that death, transformation and rebirth and um, it's a really beautiful part because without that there wouldn't be new life, like again. If you just look at nature, things you know leaves are falling to the ground, they are starting to decompose, worms eat them, they make these amazing nutrients for the trees so that the like, the leaves can and flowers can bloom again next spring. Without that death and that nutrition that death brings, there wouldn't be new life and that regeneration.

Speaker 2: 4:49

Yes, exactly, and that's the beauty of it. But so many people get stuck in the trauma of it. So why do you think that is? Why do you think there's some people who move through it in a beautiful way and they get to the healing, and then some people get traumatized by that particular death or transformation or loss of a relationship or whatever?

Speaker 3: 5:11

I mean, I think it's definitely hard for everyone when, when a person that you're close to dies or when a relationship dies. But yeah, we handle it differently. Some people I think that people with a strong Pluto placement in their chart or maybe they have Scorpio in their first house they are more in tune with these energies. It's not a big surprise when these energies come around in your everyday life. They know how to hold this, and also with others, because they're familiar with that energy when someone who doesn't have a strong Pluto at all and doesn't have anything like that, it will come as a bigger shock. Maybe someone who is really trying to avoid change, it will come as a huge shock. Someone who's trying to just hold on to the safety.

Speaker 3: 6:06

Like, yeah, if you go across the chart, we end up in taurus. Yeah, and taurus is all about safety. Taurus does not want change no, and scorpio on the other side is all about like let's, you know, leave that behind and we'll build something new. And like phoenix rising from the ashes, like burning things to the ground it embraces the change.

Speaker 2: 6:29

It's like, yeah, change is everything. Where taurus is over there going, no, stability is everything exactly scorpio is going.

Speaker 2: 6:37

yes, I see that, and when you're done being stable, I'm gonna going to transform shit, yeah, yeah. So I think we have an interesting timeframe in our life where there was a generation of humans you being one of them where Pluto was in Scorpio. So we got to see that timeframe in our life. There's actually quite a few transits of Pluto that we will not experience. Right, we will not experience Pluto moving into certain signs, but we have your generation, who are now grown up, adults and you are changing the narrative around all of this. Your generation is so. Pluto was in Scorpio from 1983 to 1995. It was actually one of the shortest times that Pluto spent in a sign.

Speaker 3: 7:24

It's spent in a sign, short and intense perhaps.

Speaker 2: 7:26

Yes, short and intense. It didn't need that long time in Aquarius, like it's going to be for 24 years, right? This was just a mere 12 years that it was in there. So think about that. That's pressurized, it's intense. That's what a pressure canner is, or a pressure cooker. It's a small thing. You put a couple jars of beans or whatever in, you put the lid on, you tighten it down and you crank the heat and you create this intense pressure in a very small time. Yeah, hey, that's your generation.

Speaker 3: 7:58

Yeah, I do think that we I mean my generation has helped. We, we are very intrigued with a cult. Yes, um, I mean like at least in in sweden and I think all around the world. Uh, there's, you know us witches are coming out of the, out of the woodworks and there's so many people talking about witches embracing their witchiness and like a witch is so scorpionic. It's all about that. You know, the magic, using herbs for transformation, talking about what's uncomfortable setting. Uncomfortable setting, you know, being powerful, a strong, powerful person, is a very witchy thing and, uh, that's what witches were. They were strong, powerful women that were then given this term of witch right.

Speaker 2: 8:59

But think about the intense changes and then burned right think about the intense changes your generation has witnessed this in 83 to 95. And most of your generation is in this decision of you know, whether we, you know, get married or start a family or whatever, and a lot of them, a lot of this generation, is choosing to opt out of that. They're like this is not actually a thing that's going to work, so like getting rid of these outdated models of functioning. And the people who are having children are experiencing something similar to what I have too is children who have major health issues and because of lies and deceit by the powers that be and that's a major transformational thing too. Where you said herbs and natural and more, more in tune, energies of healing, ways of healing, and your generation seems to be the one that's really embracing energy healing, spiritual healing, opening to astrology and the powers of that.

Speaker 2: 10:02

Um, hypnosis is taking off, Meditation is growing tremendously because your generation is like fuck this shit, we got to figure out something else. We can't just be popping pills all the time and losing people to suicides like at the rate. We are Right, we've got to transform the foundations that are outdated and man. Scorpio is just the right Pluto and Scorpio is just the right. Pluto and scorpio is just the right generation to do that.

Speaker 3: 10:28

Yeah as, yeah, it's actually really interesting because I, when you said that about kids, when I thought about it, it's like, yes, I feel like my generation, we, we don't have, we don't make a lot of children, but the generation um, after us, with when pluto moved out of scorpio, like it's the younger generations who are having the children now, or the older ones, but the people in my generation, what are we called Gen X? I think so. I think I'm Gen X, which is Pluto in Scorpio. We have our eyes set on something else and a lot of people are spending a lot more time. You know they're spending. They don't want to have kids because they want to put their money going to retreats, going like working on themselves.

Speaker 2: 11:13

Yeah, the transformational stuff, the transformation, yeah exploring the depths of of life and human and the human existence, and really going within themselves. That's what I'm seeing, that the major overarching trend and of course this isn't for everybody Right and it depends on your placements, but I think that Pluto and Scorpio generation is really the one that has the power and and kind of the guts or the nerve or the audacity, like a scorpion, to really make these deep, profound changes that our society needs to make.

Speaker 2: 11:48

So I'm excited to see how you guys keep doing it when you get into your 40s and you get into your 50s, like this is gonna be fun, yeah, but that's my view of death and rebirth. I think it's fun because my planet of fun is there Jupiter. So when we, when we look in our chart, look and see where Scorpio is in the houses, because that'll tell you the area of life that you'll feel this energy and it'll show up for you. And then, of course, if you have planets, that's a whole other podcast or we'll do that in Patreon. But for now, just check out your chart, check out the houses. Maybe it's partially in six and a little bit into seven. So that would be more daily life and you know relationships and we'll talk about that. But just kind of keep in mind where this is in your chart and where this intense energy is showing up.

Speaker 3: 12:35

Yeah, and we will go through all of that. We'll talk a little bit about Scorpio and all of the houses a little later in this episode, so stick with it. Yes, you will hear about your placement yes, death itself is like you said.

Speaker 2: 12:55

It's the thing we came to life to experience, right, it's the thing. It's. The only thing everybody will experience is the being born or the life and then the dying. So we have to recognize the transformation experience within there. But there's some boundaries in there. Let's talk about the transformational boundaries that need to occur with Scorpio. What does that mean to you when you hear those words transformational boundaries and Scorpio?

Speaker 3: 13:25

Oh my God, yes, so, um, scorpio season, you know like it's. It's about a lot of things, you know. Mostly around this time we'll go within and people like you know they pull away a little bit from from the outer world. And we'll go inside and things become more intense and our focus becomes a little more um, towards, towards more mystical stuff, and the veil is thin around this time. But also scorpio is all about power and control also. So also around this time, it's great to take control of your boundaries and I feel like that's hard. Boundaries are hard, but I guess it's meant to be hard like wants to help us to set clear boundaries for ourselves and and others. It's it's just I, I just feel just from those words, I feel like they have, they hold so much power and almost like I don't really know what to do. You know, it's like, it's almost like I I become a little student in a you know with, with a scorpio teacher, like, yes, you know, set your boundaries, um, but that's an interesting angle on scorpio, the boundaries.

Speaker 2: 14:55

I have like a personal story I want to add to this because my second I was gonna say middle child she was the former middle child my second born child had her Scorpionic birthday, uh, three days ago and it felt like a really big shift for us and she got a new solar return chart. Thank goodness, it's a better flow, it's a better fit. We whole, everybody felt it. We all felt her Pisces rising energy lift and we could see clearly and we were like, oh, collective family breath, right. So that was a Friday night. Saturday was busy. Sunday. I was like, let's use this to reset, because not only did she have a birthday, but that was when I gave birth, so it's essentially a new birthing for me as well. So I'm like, yes, scorpio energy, let's do this.

Speaker 2: 15:38

So I got the computer, I opened up a form where I keep my notes and keep myself organized and I was like lotto, family meetings, let's do this. So we sat down, we had the kids get their breakfast, let's all sit around, let's chat. So we dove into examining where we're at. We talked about our physical health. I went through, asked everybody on a scale of one to 10, where are you at on your physical health. Some of them said five, some of them said seven. I said, cool, what's two things you can do to move the scale, move the number up the scale. And they came up with the answers. So we focused on positive transformations that they could make Right. And then we went through all that. We went through mental health, we went through emotional health and the kids came up with their answers. It was really cute listening to the three-year-old because she kind of listened to everybody and then chimed in and added her, she's like um, I could watch TV and I could dance, and it's just really cute. So we're all listing things that would help our mental health and whatever. I then added to the end of the meeting what my needs are and here's some of my boundaries that need to happen. We all agreed, they all nodded their heads. Cool, I felt seen and heard as the mother and the leader of this group. It was lovely. We moved on. The meeting ended, we went on with our day.

Speaker 2: 17:16

So, having communicated that, I thought, stupidly, people would follow that. I thought, stupidly, people would follow that Silly girl. So, with transformational boundaries, you have to set them and then you have to hold them. They don't just happen. You have to actually hold them and implement them and make sure that they take place. This is the boundary.

Speaker 2: 17:42

So last night I happened to be working late, had a thing for my Cosmic Mama Collective and then I did some paperwork and then I went in. It was like 1030 at night when I went in and I had two teens watching a show in the living room and one playing Minecraft on the computer and I was like what the? I got intensely upset because I had just set this boundary. I thought we would hold it, but part of Scorpio's issue is control and then this self-protection, right.

Speaker 2: 18:18

So for me, protecting my own energy if I get angry and I blow and I really let this stingy energy out, it saps me so much Like it really steals my life force energy yeah, so I'm both feeling the feeling, seeing the chaos and recognizing where I'm at and that I have to have some self-protection. I have to go in my hidey hole in my bedroom and I have to just let this chaos be. I can't control them. There's too many of them. Elliot is too earthy, it's too much, and I had to have my own healthy boundaries and my own self-protection. I let them know where I where I stood. I was not happy.

Speaker 2: 19:08

My stinger came out a little bit and I maybe did a few jabs at them whatever scorpions do, right, Like when they were on the defense. I definitely did that. And then I looked at them and I was like I'm going to bed Good night. And I went in my room and shut the door and the message was clear but that was my healthy, transformational boundary and my own self-protection and controlling my own energy so as not to leak it or, you know, get so drained by them, which is what I used to do all the time. And so now I was working on being more guarded right and having that more balanced energy exchange, I guess so that's just one, like I can think of.

Speaker 2: 19:57

That just happened.

Speaker 3: 19:58

Yes, yeah well, yeah, because Scorpio I mean, unless you have a Scorpio moon, where it can be, you know, if someone's really close to you they're going to intensely feel your emotions, but otherwise Scorpio keeps their intensity very close to them and their feelings very close to them. They're not very like a Leo, like very out there in that way, and I think because they keep it close to them, because they can have control over it, then, yes, they are very like control, um, and I think that that's also something that we're learning from being a scorpio season. Whenever we have um, like a strong scorpio um as a plant in the sky, or we have a strong Scorpio in our chart, we're learning about self-control. I mean, there's always, there's always the balance, because too much self-control is not good either, you know, and you, you start controlling others and no good. But a little bit of like self-restraint and keeping keeping some things just here and like, okay, you have a lot of emotions, yes, but learning how to transform then those emotions, like you said, like you didn't want to let them out, you didn't want to expel your energy and get drained. Instead, you kept them to yourself. I mean, a little bit came out, but you kept most of it to yourself and probably went into your room and just let them transform into something else. And Scorpio is an alchemist. It's very much that alchemy energy about transformation and it's not easy. I saw some emails the other day that made me boil a little bit on the inside and then I wanted to respond to them like passive, aggressively or something to get my point across. That you know something, get that stinger in there. Yeah, something to get my pony crawls. That you know something, get that stinger in there, yeah, yeah. And and then I just felt I just thought to myself that's not a good idea. Uh, take some breaths, wait until tomorrow. I'm sure that I'm gonna have a different look on it tomorrow and you know, sure enough, like I'm learning something from from this. Like I felt that boil, but just sitting with it and that's another Scorpio thing.

Speaker 3: 22:27

Uncomfortableness, uncomfort, it's a call. Yeah, being uncomfortable and not Because when you're uncomfortable you just want to get out of that, you want to shake it off, you want to fix it, yeah, and the easiest way to do that is to maybe yell at someone To try and throw the energy off somewhere else. Um, if you're uncomfortable. But what we should do is just breathe into it and feel uncomfortable, feel the uncomfortableness, think like, okay, what is this coming from? Could it? Could it maybe be that I'm not totally right in this situation, or maybe I'm right, but maybe this, the thing I want to do, which is yell and scream, is not the right thing to do for me in the long run or, you know, that's not going to give me anything. So why not sit with this and see how I can use it? And I don't mean use it as to use people, but use that energy and use the lesson of sitting with that uncomfortable feeling and I'm sure it's going to teach you. It will teach you something.

Speaker 2: 23:32

Yeah, it's, it's using that energy to power something else. It's almost like unplugging it from you know where you really want to, which, for me, my go-to was was intense yelling and hollering Like it's. It's easy for me to do that. I have no problem letting words intensely fly out of my mouth. If anybody has met me, it's not a problem. What is a challenge is to mindfully manage that and really keep the fire and the heat that I'm feeling at a like more of like a slow burn, right. And I did let a little out and I said last night a couple of things and then I went to bed and what was interesting was, right before this happened, I was recording a class for Cosmic Mama Collective about learning how to meditate, but just for one minute. One minute meditations. We learned three different styles and I got into my bedroom and my brain's like, oh, one minute, ready, go, and I would do the thing that I learned for one minute. And I ended up finding I did it for like three or four minutes, like just unintentionally. It just kept going. So I really did take that transformational experience and power it into something else. Power it into managing my mind, managing my thoughts, not blaming, not shaming. Well, I told you we had this meeting.

Speaker 2: 24:56

Why didn't you listen? Why? Why? Why? Because they're fucking teenagers. That's why, because they're teenagers and they're supposed to do this, they're supposed to push the boundaries. That's the job of them. That's dumb, that I would think they would be listening. So not throwing it, like you said, but really taking it and channeling it in a really healthy way.

Speaker 2: 25:19

And, yeah, that is uncomfortable. And you guys, for all of you listening. Let's just take a moment. Healing is painful, okay, it just is, and I'm not sure why humans have this mindset that healing should be better and feel good, or I don't know where it comes from, but I've seen it across the board for the last 15 years of what I've been doing. People somehow think healing is supposed to be lovely. In a healed state it is lovely. The journey not at all. No, painful, uncomfortable, like you said, uncomfortable. You want to get away, you want to run away. You want to numb it, crawl out of your skin, crawl out of your your skin. You want to numb it with things, alcohol, you know, whatever your vice is. People tend to scroll the doom, scrolling netflix and chill. You notice they give you six seconds when a show ends six seconds before they play the next show on. Like that's not even time to find the controller. Where did the controller right? So it's.

Speaker 2: 26:29

Our society is designed to keep you in a checked out state and it takes work to shut all of that off boundaries transformational boundaries, yeah and to do the work of going where it's painful deep sea divers. It's not fun to deep sea dive, it hurts and if you don't do it at the right depth, at the right speed, you'll get all kinds of weird things in your body. I don't remember what it's called, but I know it's not good. Like to go deep is pressurized and it hurts and it's dark and it's scary and we don't know what we're going to find. So I'll just keep watching Netflix, because they just gave me six seconds, and I'll just stay on the couch and let it keep going. And this is where growth and personal development can really take a leap forward, by you working hard on those transformational boundaries.

Speaker 3: 27:30

Yeah good shit yeah, yeah, and it can look in very like very many different ways where we're a couple of weeks into Scorpio season I think we have about another, another week, almost two weeks have we been in two weeks and we have like two weeks and we have like two weeks left? We have about two weeks left A week and a half something when this is released. So I would like to ask that question to everyone listening, and I hope that you can take a couple of minutes to just sit with this question and maybe write something down Like what are your boundaries right now? Can you feel something coming from your stomach?

Speaker 3: 28:26

Boundaries can look in so many different ways. It can be to yourself, it can be to other people, it can be a lot, and if you have boundaries for yourself and you make sure that those boundaries are kept, that is transformational then then you will see the magic come from that. But setting those boundaries to yourself or to others, it's not easy, because boundaries boundaries are not supposed to be easy. If if they were, they, they, it wouldn't be a thing that we talked about, I'm sure no, no.

Speaker 2: 29:00

And I gotta tell you, if you've got a lot of libra placements, a lot of seventh house placements, if you've got a lot of taurus just venusian ruled chart this is gonna be. This is gonna be one of the hardest things that you go through because you care so much about how other people feel Pisces too, I throw that in there too.

Speaker 3: 29:20

So sensitive to.

Speaker 2: 29:21

Pisces for sure, and that's cool, and well, I don't want to let people down. Yes, I know, but you're letting yourself down. Well, but what will they think? I don't, it doesn't matter, because you're not going to be thinking. Well, if you don't do this boundary setting Right or whatever it is. We've got to stop worrying so much about really just take time to tend to your own damn garden, and that's uncomfortable for so many people. I know I'm the product of two people who give and give and give and have. You know that's a generational thing we are coming from and we have to learn that, and so, if you've got certain placements in your chart, this is going to be a little bit more challenging work, and the guilt, um, so boundaries can be very hard for them as well.

Speaker 3: 30:25

But yes, so like, yeah, it is about self-protection, um, but it's not just like. Self-protection can sometimes also have the air of being like, oh, I'm scared of something, but it's not, because if you have a boundary, you can, you can soften, you can be, you can be relaxed, you can be become more open when you have a boundary, because you know you set that boundary and then you feel safe. Yes, you know.

Speaker 2: 31:05

So that mix of sternness and softness happens when you have a boundary this morning and I always, always recommend with Scorpio energy, there's a darkness. Usually nighttime is associated with it, sleep, bed, sex, all of the things that happen typically in the dark. So if you have a Scorpionic issue, such as last night right with my family, the story I just told sleep on it. Sleep on it, give yourself the space to go in your hidey hole, disappear for the night and try again in the morning. And this morning we had conversations and I talked to them in a kinder way, with clear boundaries again, reestablishing them, and there was, it's just a new energy.

Speaker 2: 31:54

Would they have heard it? Well, last night if I was upset and intense? No, they would have been more fearful, but today they had slept, I had slept, we had eaten and we talked and like they agreed, yeah, that was crappy, sorry, I did that, we were really going to work on it, sorry, that was not cool, right? So the sleep, I think, is a really big part of the boundaries as well. Go get some sleep. Most it's always good to sleep on it. Most humans are functioning on far too little sleep, really deep sleep, yeah. So I'm a big fan of go take a nap, go get, go go to bed just go to bed, yeah, go to bed, just like um people are crabby, or toddlers are crabby, or what?

Speaker 3: 32:33

just go to bed?

Speaker 2: 32:34

yeah, just like people are crabby, or toddlers are crabby, or want to just go to bed. We'll try again tomorrow.

Speaker 3: 32:38

Let's go to sleep. Give up, let's go and sleep. Yeah, um, this year, to jump to a little bit of a different thing, this year is the first year that I actually set up an altar at home for Day of the Dead. My partner is Mexican and I really have always loved that tradition but never really been a part of it. Yeah, same here.

Speaker 3: 33:08

Yes, so what we did is that we brought some pictures from loved ones that have moved on.

Speaker 3: 33:18

We put them on an altar with some like foods, some drinks that these people used to like, some cigarettes for the smokers, you know, some candy, just stuff that they really enjoyed when they were here.

Speaker 3: 33:34

Yeah, and we lit lots of candles and we just, uh, sat here one night and like watched the candles burn and they were burning really intensely and it was really beautiful because you can really, you could really feel that that they were here and, um, yeah, this is the first time I celebrate day of the dead, but what it is is that you light lots of candles and you have these orange beautiful flowers I don't remember the name of them. I think you have them here to guide these souls back to Earth so they can find the light, find their way back and then, when they're here, they're gonna enjoy all these treats that you give them. It's almost like a reunion. It feels like a family. It is yeah, it is and it really felt like that and it was really really um beautiful to to feel that, to feel how thin the veil is, because it is. It is thin around this time of the year it is yes yeah.

Speaker 3: 34:44

So that is definitely something I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep doing and I am.

Speaker 2: 34:47

I really love that. My kids and I watch Coco a lot. The movie Coco have you seen that?

Speaker 2: 34:51

yeah, yeah, I have, I have, I have. Yes, yeah, I would love to do an altar. It's not as practical in my life at this moment with toddlers and cats and stuff, but that is something I almost like I want to work that into when we convert our barn into our new house. I want to work that into just a part of the house where this is just our, our like our memorial display of our loved ones Right and just have an area where we can have that kind of all the time and maybe with doors that close glass doors or something, so keep kids and cats out. I'm always like, come on, keep this practical. But it's something I think about and I would love to implement and I have quite a few Hispanic friends who do it and I have quite a few Hispanic friends who do it and I, I love the tradition.

Speaker 2: 35:37

It feels so much better to me than Halloween, which here is just a systemic poisoning of children with horrible food dye candy. So it makes me mad, so I don't. I don't like Halloween, I don't celebrate it, I don't. The costumes are okay, I'm not. It feels like more work than it's worth and then the candy is bothersome to me in general. But it's, it's not. It doesn't speak, it doesn't send a message to the children of anything of connection, whereas day of the dead feels like, like that family reunion, energy and this like bringing the spirits to us and setting the the energetic scene and almost like scheduling a party and you know, like you had inviting all your family members.

Speaker 3: 36:21

Yeah, yeah, it's true, and I felt like, um, there was some some um grandparents that I reconnected with uh from that night and like, uh, for some days after that I haven't I've thought about them a little bit, but I haven't really missed them and like, and now I was looking at a photo of um, me and my granddad that he's been he's been dead for nearly 20 years and and seeing that and really remembering, like you know, I, we used to be together, this was, you know, he was here and and we had this history, and I really felt, yes, so much more connected. He wasn't just a distant memory, he was actually there. I, I felt it and it was really really beautiful. And um, um, uh, my grandmother her memory is sort of going, but there was a few days after this happened. She said something like that he was here and waiting for her in the parking lot or something.

Speaker 3: 37:26

So I really I really think that he, he, he came, he came here and showed his presence a lot more. I don't know what you think, but think that when someone dies, you know you, you become a soul and you go to another place, um, and you will be. Eventually, you will be reborn, reincarnated into another body.

Speaker 3: 37:47

This is my feeling as well, yes, but at the same time, even though my, let's say, my grandfather has moved on into a different body we can still access, like he can still be a soul connecting with me at this altar and being here. It's all sort of happening at the same time. I can be here, like my soul is in my body here, but I could also be connecting with someone from a soul level from another life.

Speaker 2: 38:19

So there's this. I mean we could do a whole podcast on this, but Philip and I are studying this right now. We're reading books on it, we're watching all kinds of documentaries on it, but this concept of like a nonlinear timeline the only reason we have a linear timeline is because that's how the earth realm essentially functions. But what I've learned is that that linear timeline doesn't exist like anywhere else.

Speaker 2: 38:42

All the other stuff is all happening kind of simultaneously, and I've really read a lot of stuff that when we do sleep, our souls do go and visit and play and do other things. And I've seen it with my own eyes with my toddler, who's very 12th house energy, tons of planets there. I've seen him. He goes somewhere. He's not here. I don't know where he is, but he is not on this earth. His physical body is, but his experiences are somewhere else, which is why some people have such vivid dreams. And what you're literally you're doing it, your soul is doing that. So even if your granddad, let's say he is incarnated again in another body, um, every time he sleeps right, his, his soul could easily come and visit. So this is my take on it for sure.

Speaker 2: 39:29

I think, it's very, uh, magical and mystical this whole timeline, and like souls meeting, it's just, it's fascinating to me, fascinating. But yes, I feel that connection with. I lost my maternal grandmother two years ago and, um, she had a special connection with Gertie, so it was this, um, feminine, there we go, the feminine lineage, so her, my mom and me, and then my oldest daughter, and she always wanted to make a thing, uh, with Gertie's birthday. So her, my mom and me, and then my oldest daughter, and she always wanted to make a thing with Gertie's birthday. So she came over, one of the last time she visited our house was for Gertie's birthday and three years ago. And so I was going through my text messages just yesterday and kind of messaging people I hadn't connected with in a while, and grandma's was on there there, and I went through like scrolled way, way, way back and it was like I was talking to her again, right, like oh, hey, gram, and I was reading through the text messages and reading through the pictures I sent and I don't know.

Speaker 2: 40:29

It just felt like she was right there, you know, like I can see her, I could smell, and like I get sad and my throat gets a little lump and my eyes get watery but like, oh God, I'm just so glad to have had that interaction and that earthly experience and I know our souls will meet again. So I don't know. Death to me is, yes, it's sad, and then like it's not sad anymore, I don't know. It gets to a point where I'm like I'm so glad to have known them, I'm so glad for the experiences, and I know my time in Earth is going to go very fast. It's going very fast and I know I'm going to see him again. I know there's a connection. Obviously, if we're doing this Earth realm together, we needed to. You know we're a soul family or whatever. So, yes, I'm sad, and then I don't know, I get like really not sad and I get really glad about the time we had.

Speaker 2: 41:20

So it's. I know there's some people that get really traumatized by death, but I just really get so grateful for the experience and the gift of the togetherness we did have.

Speaker 3: 41:32

Yeah, yes, and I mean, of course it also is different depending on how the person passes. If it's someone who lives way too soon, that's, of course, traumatizing and really hard to get through. But when someone has had a full life, like your grandma she was how old, how old was she? 92, yes, yes, that's a lot of years. That's amazing. And and then it's just like, well, this body is old and frail and just don't have enough energy anymore and like it's time to move on to the next step. And then, yes, um, it is really sad still, but it's like you are. You know that she's not really gone and you know that you're going to see her again.

Speaker 2: 42:24

And then when you pull up these text messages, or you set up an altar and, like you feel them. There you feel them. It's powerful.

Speaker 3: 42:32

And I'm sure, like when you ask a question in your head and you think what would she say? You're going to hear her exact words, what she was going to say. So we can still talk with these people, we can still talk to them, and I don't think like maybe your soul, like your soul, can be in many places at the same time. So it's not like you know, if I'm reincarnating something, my soul's gonna leave my body and visit somewhere else. Like it, my soul can be in many places at the same time you know absolutely um and we can't topic.

Speaker 3: 43:07

I feel like I could go on this topic forever sure, like we can, and I think that we're gonna see this more and more how we're going to learn to connect with that and learn how to steer it a little bit. You know, visiting in different realms from this earth body, because we have the capacity, we just don't really know how to get there.

Speaker 2: 43:35

We haven't had the teachings in our society. Our society has so gone towards the religious construct, right, the really really rule, man-made, rule-oriented religion, right, but in reality we had the teachers. We had buddha, we had jesus, all of the teachers that were out there. They didn't want to be worshipped as gods. That's not what they were doing. They were attempting to teach us that the spirituality is within us. And you know, mindfulness and all of the things, right, sit quietly under the tree and be mindful and right, literally, the meditative process was with these teachers. But then the religions took the message and skewed it and I was just. I just went to church this weekend because Saffron had a singing thing in school and Phillip and I were really like, let's look for the, the spiritual connection here, and they are in the parables. You know, the, the uh story that they shared was putting energy out there and you it will come back to you kind of that karmic energetic exchange. But the story was based on this widow who had just a handful of flour and a little bit of oil and she ended up sharing it with this guy and he said you know, god will reimburse you and you will have your flour and oil. Now did she literally have an overflowing cup of flour? I don't know that's. That's pretty cool and magical, I'm not sure. But I think the teaching in the story was the deeper spiritual meaning of you know the energetic exchange.

Speaker 2: 45:11

But it gets lost in the religious box. It just does for a lot of people and then a lot of people hold to the religious doctrine, but the actual message and teachings was underneath. It kind of got buried right. It's like when you pile paper on top of paper and you have a big stack of stuff to go through.

Speaker 2: 45:24

So I think with our society we're now, with the internet and the advancement of all of that connectivity and of course the age of Aquarius we're entering into, we're really expanding our awareness outside of the religious construct and finding the spirituality within that, finding the transformation from the old ways of being right, this religious way of being, into a more harmonious with the cosmos, with Mother Earth, and Mother Nature's energy and her heartbeat and the frequency we put out does keep going out to other planets. We know that, we know that. So I think there's a big shift happening and you know, 24 years from now we should revisit this and have another chat about it because Pluto going through Aquarius is going to shake that up. So I think that's what society's transformational Scorpio energy is happening right now, as we're going through that shift away from the old way of being and thinking into a newer, more harmonious energy.

Speaker 3: 46:32

And that's happening soon, you guys. On the 19th of November, pluto is going into Aquarius and leaving Capricorn for like 240 years.

Speaker 2: 46:44

Yes, bye, capricorn, we'll see you later. Yeah, so what happens when Scorpio goes into the houses, or when Scorpio? Is in the houses what does that?

Speaker 3: 46:56

feel like. Do we want to talk about the transits or the natal placements?

Speaker 2: 47:02

Let's go to the natal placements. I feel like that would feel more in alignment with people.

Speaker 3: 47:07

Yeah, yes, so I know a lot of people actually with Scorpio first house and if you have Scorpio in the first house, also your ascendant will be Scorpio, because the ascendant starts the first house and the ascendant is also sorry. The first house is also very much your body. But so if you have your first house in scorpio, or your scorpio in your first house, you will come across as very intense, mysterious, resilient. You have like a magnetic personality that draws others in, like yeah, pretty much a magnet, um yeah, and like there's a natural tendency towards transformation and a strong will to overcome obstacles. These are big themes in your life because this is your first house, this is your ascendant. It's how people see you. You will radiate magnetism.

Speaker 2: 48:08

I think that's a big thing to mention that. Overcoming obstacles right, that's something I feel like. Scorpio people, souls who incarnate with a Scorpio rising, scorpio first house. They came here with that energy of like all right, what needs to be transformed?

Speaker 2: 48:25

And it's just this like rebirth cycle throughout their whole life. Oh yeah, shout out to my sister-in-law, kate, with her prominent Scorpio rising. And then I just did two readings this weekend for a new client of mine, robin, and he has very prominent Scorpio energy and he said that people are just drawn to me very magnetically. I was like yeah, I know so, and he had Mars right on his first house too, so it was like well, yes absolutely Powerful, very powerful, and I would also say that you might scare some people.

Speaker 3: 48:57

If you were Scorpio rising, people might be a little scared because it's a very powerful energy You're going to show, because it's really how people see you. People are really going to sense it. They're going to feel it as soon as you walk into a room, and not everyone is comfortable with that because they might want to hide from you and hide from um, because scorpio, uh, ascendants can also like sort of see through people. They have that like I see through your bullshit, yeah, and not everyone wants to be called out. So it's going to be people like you know, not everyone's going to be. Some people might be scared of you honestly, like feel a little bit intimidated yeah, and you have to just accept that.

Speaker 2: 49:45

You have to accept that there are people who genuinely cannot handle your energy and, yes, it's not anything you're doing, it's not you, it's them.

Speaker 3: 49:54

No, it's them. They're not ready to to face what they need to face and you're making them face it and they don't want to face it.

Speaker 2: 50:02

Yeah that's a great way to put it. That's a great way all right. So with the second house, we're, of course, going to have some intensity around the foundation of our life, the things we build our house on, the how we lay the concrete and build the walls. This is going to be intense and it's going to deal with our finances, the things that we own, the way we manage our core selves, our self values. It's really intense. These are people I tend to be. I find real, real, real secretive with finances. They don't share what they earn for money. They're just real, real, personal with all of that, all of the things they own. Their home is very personal. They don't share it on social media, real, private in that realm.

Speaker 3: 50:54

Yep, that realm, yep, uh, if you have scorpio in your third house, your communication style might be like probing and like digging for the truth, like very, very interested in in finding out the real truth as lying beneath the surface. Um, also very likely to dig, you know, yeah, dig deep in conversations and you probably have a talent for research and invest investigative work especially people.

Speaker 2: 51:26

You want to investigate people. Yeah, that third house is very people energy oriented. You know, communication with your siblings or whatnot. Uh, this is the sibling house, so you could have been really, really sneaky or vindictive with your siblings or maybe did sneaky shit with your siblings. There's a lot of like intensity with people and power and a little bit of like psychology stuff involved learning how to manipulate with the word, with spoken word, the written word, learning the power of words transforming people with words.

Speaker 3: 52:00

Yeah, yeah, you might also be a person who does not have you know. You might not. You, you might be a little secretive also, like in the conversations. You, you're going to ask a lot of investigative questions to others. You might not tell as much about yourself, yes, depending on all the other placements, of course, but this, like Scorpio, third house, a little bit secretive in the way you share yourself in your conversations.

Speaker 2: 52:28

This is also a placement where people could easily just puke their secrets onto you without you even like asking for it. You just stand there at the party and someone comes over and tells you that they just, you know, got into rehab or they just had a suicide attempt, some deep shit. There's so many times where I see people with this type of placement and they're like people just tell me stuff, like I don't even, I'm not asking, they just dump it on me. Yeah, that that's your energy. You literally create this kind of area of safety where they know you'll, you'll be fine with no matter what they tell you, doesn't?

Speaker 2: 53:04

matter what you're gonna be able to hold it if you're a prostitute or whatever. Especially the deeper the better. Like scorpio, third house is like oh all right, well, tell me more. Yes, yeah. So we have home and family next, with the fourth house, private, intense energy at home, whether with the family of origin that you came from, with your parents, or the family that my oldest has.

Speaker 2: 53:33

This placement and this is where there's big shifts around, like family dynamics or secrets or revealing secrets and he's definitely the one who is really has helped me transform into being an intensely honest person and really sharing just everything with him. He knows everything. He's kind of like my little confidential rock that I sit by and just talk to and he, he holds it well, really well, and no matter what stuff is happening in our family or what major revelation thing comes up and he just holds it and he, he seems to thrive on it. In a weird way, he really does that scorpionic fourth house energy seems to really hang on to that intensity well, so if there's a big, intense family which he's part of, they actually thrive with that, with that. I don't know that all of the dynamics right, the intense dynamics of, I feel like almost feeds that fourth house, but they really, really want to have some security. That's important.

Speaker 3: 54:50

Yeah, definitely Scorpio in the fifth house. This is a house that is about creations. It could be creating babies, creating art, um creativity, creative energy. So I think that a lot of people with this placement are going to be into transformative art um and or transformative love affairs oh yes, definitely yeah, yeah, you, you could get tangled up in love affairs a little bit easier than other people.

Speaker 2: 55:27

Passion spontaneity with sex.

Speaker 3: 55:30

Oh, yeah, yeah oh yeah, and very quite intense and transformational um exchanges with, with, with, like, with sex with people. Um, because the fifth house is.

Speaker 2: 55:45

It's. It's a leo ruled house. So this is leo ruled activities and that's every time we think of leo we think kind of a heart space, right, and courage and boldness and kind of audacity of like, oh, he wants to be seen, right? So if you've got scorpio in that house of being seen, then you would want to be seen in these more private affairs. You'd want to be recognized in the bedroom or you'd want to be recognized for this deep, intense art, but not necessarily you know out on the front of it. So I could see someone like this writing like an erotic book with all of their knowledge of sex and transformation, but then like using a pen name and not showing their face Right. So that could easily be like a Scorpio fifth house energy, where you're sharing this passionate love energy and this transformation energy, but still being very secretive.

Speaker 3: 56:37

Yeah, I would suggest to anyone with displacement to to actually find some kind of creative outlet, because it's going to be. You're going to get a lot of energy through in creating something, whether it's I don't know just drawing or like making things out of clay or whatever. It is. Shibari maybe, who knows, probably could be like Shibari.

Speaker 2: 57:04

Some kind of creation. It's got to be a creation you can get lost in, yeah, like you can really go intense for hours and hours and hours and just lose yourself in the creative process. That's really an important part of fifth house. Scorpio, yeah, and and the risk taking here is quite intense as well. So these people take risks quite seriously and they do it. They jump in and do some audacious things. I like Scorpio fifth house people.

Speaker 2: 57:40

I can that one this is our daily routines and work and this is it's intense every single day, like the way you are of service to others is intense, it feels like a lot, it's very transformative and the way you are of service will transform throughout your life. So I used to be a nurse's aide and I worked at nursing homes and I would help people with their private affairs, whether it was taking them to the restroom or, you know, wiping them or changing their diapers or whatever it was. I did a lot of very private things of service with dignity, right. I really focused on that, that kind of secretive aspect where, like, we don't need to share this with everybody. This is your private thing, right.

Speaker 2: 58:29

So sixth house energy is that, virgo, virgonian, I want to serve, I want to help with health. So these are people that could be in the, in the health field and doing, doing things like I just said, right, like helping with nursing homes or helping with, um, the death process. Maybe hospice workers I actually was a hospice kind of care worker for a while to literally daily helping people transform and die. That's that's literally what I did. So, um, but this was it's very, very uh, healing oriented, very, um, kind of caretaker. Energy and health is a big focus with this area. How can I help you transform your health, which is what I do now? So I did, uh, aromatherapy and nutrition coaching for 10 years and, with a little bit of like astrology under the surface, I was still keeping that secret, but I used it privately and then finally came out of the closet as an astrologer who now does health coaching kind of more under the surface.

Speaker 2: 59:30

So yeah, that fits my sixth house, scorpio, really well.

Speaker 3: 59:34

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 59:34

Cause that's your placement, yep, yep, and that's where my Jupiter is and my planet of a series how you nurture.

Speaker 3: 59:58

Yep, and that's where my Jupiter is and my planet of a series how you nurture, literally take care of. So very talented with that mind body connection, which is what I've always done with aromatherapy and with nutrition and now with astrology. It's helping people make that mind body connection. So I'm rocking it. Yes, yes, yeah and uh. This is my placement scorpio in the seventh house. So the seventh house is all about partnership, the one-on-one partnerships, and, uh, for people with scorpio in the seventh house, partnerships are deeply transformative.

Speaker 3: 1:00:19

There's also a need for loyalty and authenticity in your relationships. You will look for intense and meaningful relationships, and partnerships are going to bring like profound personal growth and also challenge you to confront yourself. So I'm going to say that relationships for you in this life yes, yeah, they are, it are. It can be difficult because they really this is where you're going to grow into yourself and you're going to be facing a lot of challenges here. But, yes, and you will really want to go deep with these partners. Like, you know that this is yes, and you will really want to go deep with these partners, you know that this is together, that you can, together with someone you can allow yourself to go really deep and you will want to go on explorative journeys with these people, whether it's out in the world or into your inner world, or take a trip, a mushroom trip or something together to to really connect to each other, crawl under the other person's skin.

Speaker 2: 1:01:27

This is what you want to do absolutely and and yeah I've read a lot of charts for people who have challenges with relationships and I look at their seventh house and I'm like, okay, um, so the people that you've lost within relationship are people that couldn't grow as deeply with you as you needed them to. And that's the bottom line. The energetics of Scorpio in the seventh house is you've got to have somebody who can go to the depths with you and if they can't go as deep as you need them to, it's, it's. It's not going to align right. There's got to be some planetary partnership alignment within their chart. Maybe they've got their son in the eighth house or something and they can go to the depths with you. But if they can't, that relationship will fizzle because you will kind of get bored, because you want to keep going down and exploring all the crazy critters down under the ocean and they would rather go back up to the surface and be in the sunlight.

Speaker 2: 1:02:24

So I've read a lot with people who really struggle and go what did I do? What's wrong with me? And I'm like nothing. You're just passionate on a level that not everybody can attain, and that's the growth you get to experience in this life. You get to keep searching to find the right energetically aligned partner who can go deep. And they're out there. Yeah, very much out there. So, but I just wanted to take note. I actually just read a couple of people recently and I just, yeah, I was out to them because they really were wondering like what did I do wrong? What am I doing wrong? Because I keep losing my partners, and I was like they're just not the right depth, they can't go down with you as deep as you need and the pressure is too much for them.

Speaker 3: 1:03:12

No, this is true, and this is not just romantic partners. It's also friendships and can be family members.

Speaker 1: 1:03:21

Business partnerships, also friendships, and you know, can be family members.

Speaker 2: 1:03:23

Business partnerships, yeah, yeah, anybody you really spend quality time with consistently, yeah. So when you have that in the eighth house, this is where it's comfortable. This is the comfortable energy, scorpionic energy, eighth house energy. So this is just this natural affinity for exploring all of the mysteries, the psychology, the occult, diving into all of the mysticism, the woo, the depths of life. So this is people who are going to experience these strong transformations, especially with other people's resources. This is the house of shared resources shared money, shared time, shared housing. Whatever it is it's, you're sharing it with somebody else. And then, of course, there's a depth of intimacy when you're sharing something. If you're sharing money, that's intimate. If you're sharing a body and you're merging your bodies, that's intimate. Right, maybe you guys are doing business together. Whatever it is, there's a shared intimacy that um usually ends up connecting with money somewhere.

Speaker 3: 1:04:28

in there, too, there's always a money hook somewhere, but definitely a strong interest in all of the matters of life and death and rebirth oh yeah, and if you have scorpio in the ninth house, this is the house of, like, the cowboy, the traveler, the, the student, the teacher. So your beliefs and philosophies um, like, there's an intensity to that you're going to be looking for for, for your truth when it comes to philosophy and beliefs, and very focused on understanding the deeper truth to this and exploring the like esoteric subjects. Overall, um, you're going to be drawn to transformative travel or like profound study that changes your worldview. This is definitely the person that you know will travel to Peru and like do ayahuasca for two weeks.

Speaker 2: 1:05:28

Every time I watch like anything on Gaia TV or ancient aliens, or I'm listening to podcasts where it's pretty woo my brain's like I wonder if they have Scorpio in the ninth house right.

Speaker 2: 1:05:40

What's going on there, especially some of these philosophers who study, are these, uh, what are they called you? What are they called? It's astronaut, alien astronauts or something, or we're called it's not ufos or there's like a new name for it for people who study extraterrestrials. There's an actual like nice name now, or like ufologists or something. But it's people who study like, uh, something, astronaut I can't remember extraterrestrial astronaut or something like that. But I always think, like, what is their weirdness? Where is it in their chart that they go so deep and they throw themselves into the study of this really intensely unique subject that other people would be, you know, scared to approach? And these guys are like this is my passion is talking about the cultures from 12,000 years ago who were connected with constellation Orion, and then that was connected to the Anuki people and like what?

Speaker 2: 1:06:40

and then that was connected to the Yanuki people and like what it's fascinating that they have this intense urge to explore all of these really unique concepts. So I feel like it may be Scorpio on the 9th, or then, if we jump to Scorpio on the 11th, too right, that might be another.

Speaker 3: 1:07:01

Yeah on the 9th or then if we jump to Scorpio on the 11th too, right, that might be another area. But yeah, and also, I mean it's not just like you're thinking, oh, but I didn't go to Peru and do it, it can also show up in, of course. It will show up in your everyday life. It can be like, if you're a yogi, if you like going to yoga, if you have Scorpio in your 9th house gonna not just do yoga, you're gonna see it as as what it is, like a lifestyle. You're gonna go deep and intense into into this, the teachings, the yoga teachings. You, you're just gonna be, you know, wanting to, to go deep with study of some sort. It can be study of yourself or like study of a subject, and teaching other people what you've learned, too, really sharing.

Speaker 2: 1:07:46

With intensity yes, so when we move to the 10th house now we've got that midheaven at that point and having your midheaven in Scorpio can feel, I think, a little bit uncomfortable and comfortable at the same time. Where the uncomfortable is it's very seen, like it's very seen. It's an area of life that's quite recognized by everybody. But you can use that where most Scorpio, who's like really prominently seen, that feels a little like too glaring Sometimes the energy is a little too like ah, I need some sunglasses.

Speaker 2: 1:08:20

But you can use that purpose or contribution to society energy through ambitious means, like creating documentaries that change people's ideas of the way you know we're being lied to. Or you know moving people with powerful scores or music pieces Right, you can still be seen, but still like stay behind the scenes if that makes sense. So you know having this intense focus on some type of career or volunteerism. Or you know philanthropy, where you give and give and whatever you do you do it well because it's Capricorn house, it's energy of Capricorn and it's Scorpio, so it's controlled and powerful and intense. So I'll use Scorpio 10,000 people like come and be my friend because I want to hang out, I'll be the one being seen and then you just help feed me some of that energy. I need that.

Speaker 3: 1:09:22

Yes, yes, it's so much about like a strong energy. I just remember that my very first yoga yoga teacher, my very first astrology teacher, and maria affonso. She always talked about scorpio as like a battery, because there's so much energy and power in Scorpio, yeah. I think so Wherever.

Speaker 2: 1:09:44

Scorpio is like it, the intense pressure, almost. It's like a pressure cooker. It's always got something in it. It's, it's ready to go. The the pressure is so intense inside there. Yeah, I like that. But those 10,000 Scorpio, they're going to be private in the way they approach that reputation or that purpose, say, the philanthropic stuff. If you give and give and give, you may not want your name on it, though, right, you may not want to be labeled. Maybe it's just an anonymous donor. This could easily be the the area of life where you anonymous, anonymously donate a shit ton of money to something and you just don't want recognition for it in that way. So, yeah, I love 10th house scorpio. People come and find me, I need you. So what happens?

Speaker 3: 1:10:29

when you're 11th. Well, if you have scorpio in the 11th house, you will um focus that intensity on like with one, on groups of people, friendships. The 11th house is about community pretty much, so you'll be deeply, intensely involved with community. Maybe you have a deep passion to stand up for, for, for the community. Maybe, like you know, a bit revolutionary the 11th house can be a bit revolutionary as well so you want to stand up, maybe for other people who can't get their voice heard. You're going to be wanting to do that. Maybe find groups of people who are working together to um to raise a voice about something difficult I could see like joining because of the loyalty aspect with scorpio there's definitely that torres scorpio loyalty aspect.

Speaker 2: 1:11:32

I can see this with um, like joining like a board or like a, a membership where you can really um long changes right, really like the transformation over time, because we know that with Aquarius we're really shooting or the 11th house we're really shooting for like really humanitarian efforts and leaving the community better than where we found it. And if we take this scorpionic approach, this intense approach, we want to get at it from like the inside, so becoming like a board member or one of like the policy making, changing people, if that makes sense right?

Speaker 3: 1:12:08

Yep, I could also see this as someone who will. You know, you will be looking for groups to be able to change society in some way, because you deeply yearn for that.

Speaker 2: 1:12:18

So you will join these groups and then sort of leave this group, because there will be a lot of transformation and a little bit of it um lessons around being in groups, because scorpio's energy about transforming, so yeah, wherever they will be, wherever Scorpio is in these houses like we haven't touched on it with each single house, but you have to just take this idea that these experiences of this area of life, this is where it's going to be intense, because there are going to be these death and rebirth cycles where the way you were functioning and who you were with is going to go away. Like you have to just be okay with that and then a new something will take its place. Yeah, it's really important, like you get that in your head that wherever the Scorpio is in your chart, that area is where that death will happen or those rebirthing cycles will happen. So, yeah, you're going to join a board, you're going to make a change and then you're going to leave the board and go join a different board.

Speaker 3: 1:13:28

And that might be painful, a painful experience. You might feel ah, why am I always the one having to end up leaving or things change and blah, blah, blah. But yeah, you came there to make a change and when you made that change you did it. High five, you done.

Speaker 2: 1:13:42

Yeah, yeah, so you'll have major effects on changing policy and groups when you're in that 11th house arena and then the 12th house. We dive into the subconscious and the hidden realms and we get into that psychological depth that merges with the spirituality of things right, the past lives, the multiple universes, the, the dreams, all of that. We have a tendency to really go introspective here, so these people are powerful at going inside themselves and then, once inside themselves, they then go to other universes or other things. So really, really amazing at this, like super transformation of themselves, and then it's a very healing process, because the transformation inside themselves and then within a spiritual realm and another realm is this like reworking almost of like the cellular programming of their body. It's quite intense, it very much feels like a rebirthing cycle. The cellular programming of their body it's quite intense, it very much feels like a rebirthing cycle, like almost physical rebirthing, and so this could.

Speaker 2: 1:14:49

These are people who are just drawn to exploring all of the mysteries, all of the psychological, spiritual, all of it. I just want to explore it all in a really profound way and then keep changing who they are and that is going to change the people they're around, because when you completely alter your state of being, when you completely alter the frequency at which you resonate, which is Piscean, 12th house, energy People who were once with you and you were out drinking beers every friday night. That's not going to work anymore. Like you have transformed, and the the friend group has to transform as well, because you're a different vibration completely. You physically are a different vibration.

Speaker 3: 1:15:34

So I think 12th house's scorpio energy is probably the coolest yeah, I can also see this as you win, but I also can see how it can be very uh I mean quite intense, because this is about your subconscious and you. You cannot really control your subconscious and because you have that with scorpio here in the 12th house. It's like those people who are you have this gift of really easily seeing things that are not from this world and that might scare you a lot. You might not want to see these things and you might be quite afraid of it because you don't know how to control that. And I know there's many adults who have lived with this in their for their whole life and they just try and block out this within and I don't have any advice really what to do there. But, uh, more than like, get to know your chart and become friends with I mean that was that was my advice.

Speaker 3: 1:16:40

Yes, everyone doesn't have to work on their medial skills, but you could work on your, maybe your, your boundaries, your energy boundaries and that well, I don't really, I'm not interested in this, but I'm sure you are really, but you might be scared of it. So, just learning how to become friends with that because, yes, this will be intense I agree this could be.

Speaker 2: 1:17:04

Should you not understand the energy, this could feel a little freaky keeps coming up right, just the freak out like maybe some of your thoughts, some of the subconscious things dreams forward. Your dreams would definitely uh be scary and uh, especially as a child, right, and if adults are blowing it off or not taking you seriously, this is a very psychic area of life.

Speaker 2: 1:17:30

So if it's 12th house stuff in Scorpio, and you have planets there. You have, I promise you, you have some psychic abilities on some level, whether it's hearing, seeing, feeling presence of somebody else, another realm, another dimension. It's something you are gifted with and it is a gift. You just have to understand it Right. But it can feel scary if you do not know what you're dealing with.

Speaker 3: 1:17:57

So yeah, learn your chart.

Speaker 2: 1:17:58

Wonderful advice. I think it's so important to just keep learning. Scorpio wants to go to the depths, it wants to understand the psychology of things, and 12th house is not tangible, so that's quite the depth to explore when you want to go to the depths of something that's not tangible, mm-hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:18:30

Yeah, so this is a person who came to Earth to experience the mysteries of that spirituality in a just, profoundly profound experiences here. So it's a, it's an intense sign. I do like, I do like it, my Jupiter is there. I'm like, yeah, I like intensity. And then I'm like sometimes I step out of myself and I'm like what? Come on, laura, come on, let's not get obnoxious Jupiter, let's take it down. But it's an intense sign and we came to earth school to experience all of the depths of emotion and the human existence, and Scorpio is probably the most intense and the deepest we can go yes, yes and yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:19:08

Now we're knee-deep within Scorpio season this year. We still have some time left here. So, yeah, check your boundaries. Where are you at with your boundaries, with your self-control? It's quite powerful to like take back your control, you know. Very powerful, yeah. So maybe just like explore those themes while we're here. It's a cool few seasons.

Speaker 2: 1:19:40

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