Carrying Cord: A USF Football Pod

Quit Askin’ (Season Preview)

Pookah and Red Season 3 Episode 1

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The guys are back with a season preview for what seems like a promising (hopefully?) USF Football season. They talk about love, life, and how hard making a podcast is. Pookah doesn’t have the best audio and he forgets about 10 years of Florida Panthers history but, hell, what’s new? Enjoy Bulls fans!

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

It's Karen Kor, y'all! Oh my god! I didn't think this moment would happen. Actually, until just about an hour ago, I was convinced that this wasn't gonna happen. This is your USF football podcast. And we are back for your entertainment. Dance, Red! Dance!

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

We are bringing you the greatest preview of the greatest football season ever to be played You

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. it's been a minute, hasn't it? Red.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah, minutes and eternity, in this business and in my general everyday life.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

In your personal life, like, Wow, is that 60 seconds? Goodness gracious. it's good to see your face, Red. I feel like it's been longer than a minute. I feel like I just woke up, out of a, I don't know, like a nuclear shelter. Walked out into the open expanse. There's hope, there's promise, the nuclear fallout has Nothing is going on in the world. So all we really had to talk about is football.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

it's a new spring, except it's August and football has already started. And we're just a little behind the ball, we're good with people. People are, I'm sure have been wondering, actually, we know you've been wondering. Cause we've seen your comments. We've seen the

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

for our return. but we've been busy. let's talk about what we've seen for the last, god, eight months.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we had some big plans for the pod. We really That's the thing we were motivated. We had some good ideas once the off season came about. I think that comes from there was actually some promise and some hope that quickly faded. We didn't do any of the things that we said we were going to do for the pod, but I think we're failing to mention how much work goes into this. Like we're having to really look at the format. We're really having to look at how we approach this podcast. Cause it's something we love doing, but. It's tough.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

you guys wore our asses out last year. And,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Two a week.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Eight months of not recording a podcast has made it seem like an inevitable task to, to ever be able to come back and do this. But but we're here and we're somehow, we pressed the record button, but we're dumbing things down. We're getting rid of anything that ever resembled good content for you guys. And we're just winging this shit with just me and Pooka.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

what's on our minds and we'll see if we get back to weekly or what, definitely not twice a week, but we do enjoy like the preview and kind of a recap kind of format, but maybe we'll build those into one episode and then end up splitting them. We'll see what we do.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we got to get, and we've had some great recommendations. We had some folks, which we got to follow up on, talk about some guests that we can have that they've already coordinated. I think that's content that we're really excited to bring. but like you said, it's an ass kicker. Eight months of not recording anything was nice. I got to watch the Florida Panthers win the Stanley cup. I've been riding that high.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

yeah, that was a big part of your, your missing for the

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, my break.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

action over here, but,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I'm telling you, because in the finals, there was a moment where I really thought I would never watch any sport again. I thought that was it. There were game seven in sunrise. That was going to go one or two ways. I was either going to be happy or I was never going to talk sports ever again. I was going to climb a mountain in Tibet and stay there. Never come back.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

and

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

like Brad Pitt.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

with God to swear off alcohol or.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, that's when my drink and stop, please. I will stop masturbating. I will stop drinking. I will donate to the United Way. I've done one of those things, so I'm not upholding my end of the bargain. That's where it goes. Where have you been? What have you been doing?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I wish I had something cool to say I've been doing. you know what I've been doing for the last two months? NCAA football came back out. College football 25. That has been a big part of my time suck.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, have you been crootin You

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

crooting all over the place. Been already USF won multiple national championships and

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

This is the thing about NCAA, or any of those, I'm not very good at video games to begin with. So I need something, yeah, I know. I need something that doesn't require a lot of thought, that I can get lucky at and win. That's why I like crush it at Fortnite. but put me in NCAA. And there's just too much going on. And I'm getting dunked on by a 12 year old named like XXMrBeansXX or something. I'm not all about that shit.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

it's still, it still happens. And I don't go, I don't go and play online against little kids, just cause they will dunk on me. I just avoid that. I don't put myself in those situations and maybe some other USF fans should have followed our lead

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I was about to say, some of you SF fans found out that staying away from little kids is probably a good strategy. But we'll talk about that.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

And that's the other reason I'm wary of doing guests too, because we bring a guest on here and then you never know what that person is going to done in their life. and then we got to take that episode down or some bullshit,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

around, they wrote like a book called Hillbilly Elegy or something, and then we they're like rolling that over to us and saying and Does that mean Pook and Red are into this? No, you know what

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

other crazy shit without getting involved with all that, so.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

there's been a lot of changes around the program. There's a lot of changes here. Personal lives. There's been a lot of changes around the program. Obong off season. If we had to, if you had to, say,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

college football, too.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Oh man, there's a lot of stuff going on. We're talking about the 12 team playoff and whether or not the American even gets into that. That's a whole different discussion, but. if we had to sum up the off season, if you had to take it and sum it up in one word or one statement, what would you say? how would you put it?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

at least Jeff Scott's not here.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we've been saying that for a while now. Bless his heart.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah, I was looking back on a lot of our stuff, trying to put together some of our thoughts for the season and going back to last year, I'm just glad it's just an off season to change. we've got the same coaching staff sticking around. We've got most of the huge returning squad of players. So it's nice in that regard of we've got expectations. We didn't have those for the last three years, at least. So that's a nice change. Welcome change. And God, I don't know what to do with myself a lot of people were asking about the episodes and stuff like that And quite honestly, it was a lot easier to do this shit when there was so much shit to complain about and hate on and laugh at and Now that we're hopefully, you know building on a seven and six season Expectations are higher than that. We want more wins. We want a conference championship God, am I a little nervous about it? Am I anxious? am I? Worried I'm going to be let down because God knows I couldn't be let down for, I was immune to that shit for a little while.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

This is how USF does it. This is, they give you a little bit of hope. You start coming back, you claw back, but that one, the conference championship has always just been a bridge too far. We always just barely miss it. And it's like, I not to keep talking about them, but it feels like the Stanley cup for the Florida Panthers, right? Like 20 years of trying to get that just coming this close and again, blown out by Vegas last year, and then coming back and winning it this year in seven games against Edmonton, well, maybe that's the way this works for yourself. We have had great seasons. Under a bunch of different coaches only to feel the bottom of the barrel for a long while and then start to claw out of that and then drop back down in the bottom, coach go is giving us a little hope here and he hasn't made anything sound bad over the off season. I'm not thinking oh shit, really

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

nothing but confident. That's for

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. I hope he's pushing that confidence off into the secondary. Cause. Good night. It could be ugly. he's struggling. That's what we need. We need a new Matt Hill player of the week.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Exactly. that's where the changes have been. Hopefully, that's where we needed it. Like you said, we do have a new secondary coach, brought in coach van Dyke. he's Known as a primarily as a recruiter, but I think he's hopefully turning that unit around too. He had some more transfers there in the back end Couple guys nickel and safety, so we'll see what we can do there

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Have you

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

were returning a lot of productions certainly on offense and in the front seven on defense so

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

have you had an opportunity with your fancy insider status to be able to go see some of the practices, to see some of the, be around the team,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I actually have not. I got offered and, had some conflicts and wasn't able to go. So that's part of why we haven't done shit like this, is there just hasn't been that, motivating factor. I'd say the number one reason that we're on here today is because, quite frankly, I watched some college football yesterday and it gave me a little bit of an itch.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

gave you the, how could you not Georgia Tech with that last minute field goal, just, you Florida State, after all that griping and bitching last season, and we should have made it, we should have been the team, to come in ranked 10th preseason polls and just get embarrassed on the international stage. Oh, that's got to be the final nail in the coffin for that program. I said last season FSU was overrated. Truly believed it. And it's just maybe, you know what, maybe we don't put that bad juju on other programs. Cause we're not like, we're not doing the best ourselves, especially because we're looking at 12 team playoff this season. We're looking at the potential. If we win the conference, maybe someone from the American gets in.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

could be, most people aren't predicting us. I've seen like game day had Liberty is the G5 representative mainly or Boise state, but certainly the American, if there's a good American team, I think, 10 and two or better. I think that Trump's like a, Cause we actually play some people, right? Like we've got Band in Miami on our schedule, plus the conference schedule for the Americans. While it's dog shit, it's still better than whatever, Mountain West or Sun Belt or whatever other conferences. Conference USA, it's all,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

that's still all beneath us. But,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I mean, you've got got some good American teams on there. Um, Especially depending on what they do early on in the season. But you're right. If we can, we'll talk about our predictions in a minute, but if we squeak out a win early on against one of these bigger teams, especially before they catch their stride, yeah, it could be, we're going to the championship, baby.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I will say, that's been where, having a video game that has the playoff, new playoff format in it has been nice to see how the 12 works, like the four champ, four highest rated champions get the buy and then you get the four home games and it's a unique format. I like it. they're already talking about trying to expand. I'm like, can we not just play one season under this before we already have signed up to go to. or 32, let's just see how 12 works for a season guys. hold on,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

that's some 28 year old MBA in the boardroom being like, listen, this is how we make more money from this. We have got to keep up. We are paying athletes now, but the whole landscape has changed, baby. How do we break in that cash? You know who's gonna need some cash? We've had some fans who need bail. Can you all stay out of trouble? I'm kinda worried about y'all down there in Tampa.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I don't even know what to say about that. Who would have thought a guy who dresses up in a full costume from a kid's comic book and USF colors has problems. I don't

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Ugh. All innocent until proven guilty. I don't want any sort of slander or libel. We are journalists here, ha. But damn, we don't need that. Can you We already had, the signs talking about, us being felons and everything like back in the day, we don't

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

the program had some arrests within it. Yes. Yeah.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we had some people get

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

unpaid parking tickets. Some firearm disputes.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

We have weaponized the courts against USF fans. And I I don't believe it. I don't stand for it. I just, let's keep that shit away from the program.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

to be honest, my money was always on the old guy who was asking everybody to pet his woody. that was going to be the guy who gets arrested. But

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

That guy somehow made it, managed to ride into the sunset and never get in trouble.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

damn found that guy,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

But yeah, that's why I don't do the whole mega fan thing. Like I'll be in a polo in a USF hat and

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

sleeping in the box.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

to make it all about me as a fan and dress up and get all this attention. Like just keep it on the players. They get enough trouble themselves without fans adding to that. So

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we're getting, the thing about it is, and this is interesting and how coach go has done it. I mean, he's not, we have guys who are getting in trouble, but I don't know that we've gotten a lot of information about what's going on. Like he has created this culture of insulation, like this culture of. we're going to take care of stuff in house and make sure we play to a certain standard. We're like, we're trying to grow a program. I'm sure there are guys getting in trouble, but I don't feel like I've heard one about a ton of it. And two, if it does happen, they're just gone, right? He's not messing with it. he's dealing with it and then get rid of them.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

that's where we need your investigative reporting, Puka, out there, digging into why these guys are transferred and never heard of them from again.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. My, my one contact Lee's He's not giving me any info. I gotta get him back on, I gotta get him back on the payroll. We'll see. I don't know how to do that.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

so I know, speaking of guys who left the program or haven't made it in, that's where we've really only seen the, we didn't have the mass transfers like we did. Last year, so we've only seen a couple of names either not make it in or have transferred out indiscreetly, But we haven't made the roster before camp, but otherwise we're returning most of our team.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Sure.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

certainly on offense, Atkins is back, Byron Brown, Nashav Wright,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

O Line is where you've seen a little bit of turnover, but even there I think you've got. For the four of the five guys, at least have starting experience. So I'm pretty, pretty good on offense. defense is, they weren't great to begin with last year. So I don't know if returning people is a good sign or not.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

the defense found their stride. found out how they're gonna do it towards the end of the season. But the opponents also, like when we're playing a tight end, As quarterback, of course the defense is going to shine type situation. so it remains to be seen. We're going to know pretty early on whether or not

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

here's what I have to say about that.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

shutouts great. It was against. questionable quarterback, but at least we're not saying the opposite of Oh, this tight end who's only played quarterback for a week, didn't throw for five touchdowns and 400 yards. Cause that's always a possibility as well. So look on the bright side there that, Hey, we did what we were supposed to do against a team that didn't have a quarterback. So

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

but that was, and as relieving as it should feel, that was the USF defense that kept showing up, like a guy that hasn't scored a touchdown all season. All of a sudden has a career day against our defense and it's like. What are y'all doing back there? What's happening? I if we're going to turn this thing around, which I think we're predicting we are, we already did last season, they're going to have to show up. It's not just, I don't know that this team is built yet for a shootout style of play where we are continually scoring, coming back and like making those big plays. It depends on how well this offense is gelling to be able to come back from constant lapses on defense.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah, here's the nice thing. So you've got returning coordinators on both sides. So you got to feel good about seeing some continuity, some improvement, buy into the system, et cetera. Really trying to, you're not just trying to teach guys. You've now get them up to speed. You've now been able to kind of mold them into what you expect and figure out who can do what. on that front, besides Byron Brown, let's start with offense. Who are you most excited to see return? And then who's a newcomer on offense you're looking for?

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I think for my return, folks, it's gotta be all the way, Sean Atkins. There's nobody else in my mind that has done more for that offense than Rahman Yassin. aside from Byron Brown, right? I'm excited to see those two continue to gel. I guess the newcomer I'm most excited about is that transfer from Purdue. Abdur Rahman Yassin, I Has he seen his whole I don't know. We're gonna figure it out. We're gonna see. We don't have the media pronunciations of these guys names. We need the media guy. I'm excited him as a wide receiver only because I think if we can spread the ball out and open that game up, we can really open up the running game in a way that gives Byron Brown options, gives Naquan Wright options, gives us the ability to really have that offense. Cause I know there were some complaints last season about how maybe limited or predictable our playbook was. And with just more talent on offense, maybe we're not having to fall back and play it safe, Yeah. What about you?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I like your choices. I think obviously it'd be nice to have someone take some of the pressure off Atkins, even though I love coach Golish's comments about him saying he's the best wide receiver in the conference and he knows it. It's pretty nice. and Golish has had some other nice sound bites here in the off season as well, talking about, Bama and Miami get to play USF, right? his confidence is not lacking. So hopefully that's carrying over well to the team.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. And I mean,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

probably his biggest thing. Like you were talking about with the defense, seeing some growth of, I think he's just got to get this team to play with a little confidence is the number one, we saw that a couple of years ago where they just, you put a new guy in and he was immediately just toast and giving it up and that was what was expected, right? So raise it, raising those standards and getting everyone to play with their heads held high and keep each other accountable.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

mean, we lost some guys, right? We lost some guys that at least on the offensive side of the ball showed some promise, Chaffery Brown use of Terry's arguable, but had some moments, right? We lost Michael Dukes, so we need that offense production. We need guys who are coming in to help spread that ball around and give us. Options, you know, we don't want to continue to play with a lack of talent or where we're outmatched on talent and having to be real conservative. And

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

But yeah, my two players, if we're talking offense, I got it. I love right at running back the way he trucked that Bama player last year,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah, let's see that again, baby.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

newcomer, I'm probably going to go with the, freshman tight end. We got out of IMG big recruiting when, I think Eccles is his name. we're not real deep at tight end anyways. I love, Gunner and

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Do you now

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

there, but I like a nice athletic tight end.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

stop me making my job too easy, but we got a couple other, we got that tight end transfer from Cincinnati, uh, single Terry. And we got, that transfer from FAU, I think thin Jones is a tight end

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Oh, okay.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

big dude, six, six, two 30. You got to imagine he stays mostly in pass pro and doesn't really get out and do too much. But that's a big kid.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

about transfers these days, especially in the portal. Everybody's transferred for a reason, but Let's switch over, let's switch over to defense. Uh, I'll, I'll go first on defense. It's easy for me right off the bat. Favorite returning player for me is, Corner or Mars Brown.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

ABB now. my newcomer is my same newcomer from last year. He didn't get eligible. Last year, even though I'd heard great things about him, saw him practice, but he wasn't able to get eligible for the season. Bernard Gooden, I think he's

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Oh yeah. And

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

D line. So I'm going to stick with him and just roll that back.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

mean, we lost some promise on that D line on that defense.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

We did. Yeah.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Summerall. We lost, who else did we lose? We lost Tramiel Logan.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Tramiel Logan was, that's a unfortunate NIL transfer there. Yeah. And then some of the guys, I think, one of the guys were counting on coming in to replace some of that. Didn't make it in. It sounds had some issues.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah. I

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

we'll see.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

mean, I gotta say, I'm right there with ya. Mars Brown, Bunkley Brown Bunkley. he is a solid He was a shining star in that secondary.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I thought for sure you were going to go with Barry Hill as your favorite returning

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! He had moments. Tellin ya.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

first name though. So

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Oh yeah?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

improve his play over there.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Wow.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

He's no longer going with Logan. He's going, I can't remember what it is. It's like Jaquille, something like that. I don't remember for sure.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Alright, good for him.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

it up, but.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Go off. Go off, my man. Uh, Barry Hill, he had some moments where you're like, Oh yeah, and he had other moments where you're fuckin scratchin your head, wonderin what he's doin And I gotta stick with the same thing on the D Line because we've just struggled with clogging up running lanes. And when that happens with a weak ass secondary, it's so easy for people to break off career days in running because we've got nobody there to stop them. So I'm hoping we have someone that can just clog a running lane and just buy us some time.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Okay,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, I like it. I like it.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I'm trying to think of what else is going on in the program we could talk about. it's been a relatively quiet spring and fall. No huge injury news. A couple guys have gone out. But like I said, it's just a little bit different feeling around everything with, we're not picked last in the conference. day's a little bit different. Got some people there asking some questions, some interest. Let's see. Joey Knight and people writing some articles about USF

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

saw some like ticket sales ad being like, it's the most anticipated USF season ever. Oh, I don't know about all that, but I guess in recent memory. Yeah, for sure.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

absolutely. There's some excitement around the program and I think there's a lot of wait and see. Cause there's some big stuff, right? Okay. Now you have your indoor practice facility. You have all this stuff that you said you needed. on campus stadium in the works. It's moving, right? are you going to do? It feels like very much a pivotal moment with conference realignment happening, like us not wanting to get left behind. We're seeing UCF getting their balls kicked in. And not being able to do anything with being able to move up, hoping that maybe, Hey, they want another hot market team to come up and move out of a conference. this is a pivotal moment in USF history.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

There's some, debate about how much wins really matter as far as like those types of decisions, of. Recent results versus market size and alumni base and investment and all that kind of stuff, right?

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

even with that debate, there has,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah. why chance it? Why like just win and shut all that up? Like it's not going to hurt having a winning program. It's certainly not going to hurt your chances at this conference promotion. I know Kay talks about how it's so important that we have the most, it felt good, right? It's nice to have fans. It's just. I'm not gonna not want winning, whether that's in football or a basketball program, but have some nice success. I don't know that success is the biggest factor, personally, in those decisions, but it fucking helps. Like, why

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I mean, even if you're talking marketing and you're talking market and eyes. Look at schools like FIU and FAU, FAMU, who are in the same fertile recruiting ground, the same markets, but are getting left behind. I think wins bring eyes, grow markets, get you the looks, right? If your team is hot ass garbage, you're not getting pulled up no matter what. They don't need another bottom feeder in a conference, even if it is from a nice market, because you're not bringing much of anything to the conference.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

let's talk about those wins and losses. Let's get into a little season preview here.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

before we get into the season preview, what does coach go said about the season? is he saying anything? Is he tipping his hand? What's he saying down there?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

He's got

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

When you guys go have coffee?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

he's got his typical coach speak. one game at a time, process over results, all that kind of stuff, standards. he's got some swagger, some confidence. He seems just, lighter. He's having fun. Yeah. he's still, hedging it a little bit saying the team's not where they a hundred percent need to be as far as, talking about things of, like being a player led team. That's always been his mantra, right? Like in his vision, it's not the coaches who need to hold the players accountable. It's the players who hold, who do it all themselves. And he's seen steps there, but I, and I don't look, it's, we said last year was year zero, but he did pretty good for that. I think we're. I think we're moving steps in the right direction still.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I'm trying not to get too far over my toes here, and end up on my ass, in typical USF fashion where the hopes get a little too high, but it's fun to, to have some expectations and be not just God, we can't get any worse at least, right? I don't know.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. I mean, it does feel good to be looking forward to the season in a way that like, maybe we don't expect much, but I don't also expect anything bad. it's like I've been let down before. It's like Thanksgiving dinner in 2016. Like I know there's going to be an argument, but I can't get much worse than it's been in the past. I know it's going to be bad, but how bad is it? So we know it's going to be bad if we go with that mantra, just how bad is it? We got a couple interesting games. So

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

It's a fun schedule. I will say that.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

it is we, and we start conference play. Five games into this Yeah, so we're bouncing around out of conference and then

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

With only four non conference games, how far into the season do you think a,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

hold on Wait a second. I got to do the math here. I gotta pull this around I think it's the fifth game where Is that is that correct? Is

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

that is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Especially since we're not like the

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Go

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

SEC programs who save one of those non conference games for Thanksgiving week for a little bi week action in there.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

some bi week funsies, you know doing like the South Carolina Clemson Bullshit that they do at the season. we got some snoozers, hopefully at the beginning of the season, and we got some excitement at the beginning of the season. What are you seeing? What are you most excited about? Aside from the fact that baby, we are going to Tuscaloosa.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

We will be in Bama. Yes, sir. For Nick Saban field dedication weekend. Sure. I'm sure that'll go very smoothly for us.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I went great last year.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

we're also hosting Miami this year. That's sure to be a big shit show of a tailgate at least. If not anything else, we've had some interesting games against them over the years. They've got, not a huge fan base, but an interesting one. That's always a little rowdy.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

they've struggled at times in the past few years. I think they're just coming back around, but they've, Miami's had some struggles. They're a vulnerable team in my mind.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

We've got, blossoming rivalries with conference foes, UAB and FAU.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Well, we're not, we're not, you're getting too far ahead though. When we're looking at the first five, you're looking at the whole I mean, are we,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

five games is the key. Cause that's what we've got before the bye week, the first bye week. And so that's our four non conference games and then two lane. Which may be our toughest conference opponent. So that'll, we'll find out quick what this program's got.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I think we will know very early. Whether or not the first play from scrimmage is a touchdown for Bethune Coon, uh, and we have to start the season off like that again. I like that game. You want to go through our predictions? We want to go, through what we're seeing. All right. All right. Let's go

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

but then cook men, not a whole lot to say about them. it's a FCS team and they're, last year we played a pretty decent FCS team and fam you, they were, their only loss on the season was to us. and I don't think we looked great against them. So I think we're expectations a little higher that we should handle between cookmen pretty easily. They really shouldn't give us any heartburn. and hopefully we got the starters out of there at like halftime and we're getting some guys some playin time, some experience. They do have coach, Raymond Woody, familiar name there, guy who doesn't know how to stop a simple running attack.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

how many times in a pod can we say woody though?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

there have been quite a few references,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

this is the woody pod. I love it. I think we both see that one as a win. I think that's a win. So we're doing our preseason predictions, we're keeping the score, so if we do this again during the season we can go match up and talk about how much righter I was than you were.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

you were so much writer than me last year, correct?

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I am so right all the time, but I think our predictions are pretty close this season. We both have this one going as a win for USF.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

didn't have Bethune Cookman as a win. This podcast would be over before it even started.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

But then we go, into Bama. Alabama, if you're flying in, Birmingham's the closest airport an hour away. I'm driving, fuck that.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

there you go. That should be fun. I'm excited. last time we were in, I guess not the last time we were in the state, but the last time we were in there for an out of conference opponent, Auburn, great experience, some of my best USF memories, hopefully to repeat that.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

that would, I think, So I'm taking this one as a win. And, I don't know that it's necessarily a skill thing, I think it is a, Just catching them not paying attention type moment. I think Bama with the coaching change, they've struggled the past few seasons. Questions around whether or not they make it to the playoff, whether or not they're actually the same good team. Nick Saban did a lot to build that program and draw an interest and do whatever shady shit he did to have Alabama where they were. I just think that they are in a vulnerable spot right now, and USF can come in and David and Goliath the shit. I'm giving it a win.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

You're not wrong. all your points are valid. They're not the same. They're not the same Alabama that had a, obviously new coach, a lot of transfers in and out. to get them early in the season.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

ha.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

They're still Alabama. and last year, while that gives me some hope of the way we played them, they weren't, they didn't have a quarterback. We saw how much of a difference that makes for the Syracuse game.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

then they figured out that Jalen Miller is their guy. So we're going to see what we can do against him, but I'm still, I'm still hopeful for that game. I wouldn't be going if I thought it was just going to be a 45 to nothing blowout. I think we've got, I think we've got a. Puncher's chance. I think Golosh's offense had historically given, when he was at Tennessee, he'd given Alabama some problems with

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Sure.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

So I don't know if their new coach is familiar with that coming from Washington. I don't know. so we'll see.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I'm excited about that. Yeah, that should be a good one. And then we got Southern Piss. Miss.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Oh, just to be clear on Alabama, I have it as a loss just

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

That's true. Alright, so you got us at that point 1 1 in the season, and I got us a 2 0.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yep.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. And then

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I've actually got a loss too. I think we just get caught in between sandwich between Alabama and Miami going on the road. It's just not a, just not the right circumstances. where you're talking about, maybe we catch Alabama in a good situation. I think that's us getting caught in a bad situation.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

off a win in Bama, but because I think we get a little overconfident two wins in a row, we maybe think we're a little bit better than we are. We historically aren't good in those situations because we get a little cocky, and I think we take that loss Southern miss.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

But yeah, Southern Miss, I think we used to play them back from the Conference USA days. That was really before my time, but I don't know what I don't know much more about them, though.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

that's why we need to do a preview pod for them.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

do our

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

see a little bit of evidence there. Yeah. But we're talking a little bit about, so we both had that one at a loss. and Miami at home.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I wish we knew what time that game was, because that would help with my tailgating plans, but That's a tough one. I'm looking forward to being able to scout them a little bit. They start off the season with Florida, so that should give me a little more knowledge of where they're at. They're again, a team with a lot of transfers in and out, new quarterback. Came, Cam Ward was one of the most highly talented transfers going over there. But again, what's he like in a new system? How's he gelled with coaching staff? I've seen all of that.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Sure.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

a lot of unknowns. that's the one thing that's nice. Pretty much as you look at us against all of our opponents, we've got a lot more certainty around who our starters are, who our coaches, all of that kind of, solidarity versus transition. That hopefully gives you a little more, it gives you an edge in some circumstances.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

mean, we, for the past couple of seasons, haven't had that, right? we've had a little bit, but there's still the coaching. There's still the quarterback competition going into the season. Wondering who it's going to be. Is it going to be, Gary, is it going to be,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah. God, that's crazy. Just this time last year, we were. We didn't even know Byron Brown was going to be the starter, right? we'd, we were sitting on that news that Gary was out injured. and now he's potentially, going to be the, he's in a battle at BYU to be their starter again this year. So

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I the journeyman,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

yeah.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

but so now we know we have a quarterback, we know who he's throwing to for the most part. We know we have a running back and we get to build on that. So a lot of this confusion, a lot of these question marks that the other teams have, we don't necessarily have that and that's good. Either way, I think I'm taking Miami as a loss.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Same here. We've got as a, got as an L

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, but then we turn it right around and go into conference play.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

and this is where things get crazy. This is where the hope really starts to shine.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Hold on. I'm getting naked. We're making this crazy. We're making this extra crazy, baby. Cause I don't know if we're just drinking the Kool Aid. I don't know if we're just trying to manifest this into existence, but both you and I, we don't have another loss marked on the entire season. Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

and maybe that's like you said, maybe that's just, too much hope. we'll bias bowls, colored glasses. We got on there, Homer ism, whatever you want to call it, but it's just not that good of a conference. And we're on the Ascension. I think I can point at weaknesses at each and every team. Especially the ones we played last year, even in the losses to those teams, there isn't a single game last year where I'm just like, God, that team was better than us and we have no hope against, like

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

say that about a Bama, And even that was a pretty close loss. But when you look at UAB and FAU, which were both pretty ugly losses,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

look at those and be like, those aren't, that isn't the way you expect those games to go. But then when you talk about games like Navy, Charlotte, Tulsa, Rice If we're losing any of those, that's a fuckin problem. So

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we beat the breaks off in Navy last season, not to say that, past performance indicates like future performance, but UAB, you really felt even at the end of that game, that shouldn't have been the loss that was, if we can, I've said it a couple of times, but if we limit career days for guys who shouldn't be having career days, that's a winnable game. That's. anyone can go back and argue history like that. If we had just plain played the football game, it wouldn't have ended that way. But I think there's a legitimate gripe and a legitimate statement that if we go in and make some minor tweaks, that isn't the loss that it is. Uh, so like you said, I don't know that we're. If it's just us drinking the USF Kool Aid or wearing the Bulls colored glasses. But I really do think that those were all beatable teams and we lost those games. They didn't win them.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Correct. I'm with you. 100%. Probably the one I'm most uncertain about is the first one, Tulane. Mhm. Just because we didn't play them last year, we're not. They're transitioning with a new coach and things like that as well. But they were one of the best teams in the conference. Again, we'll find out. Test our medal early, on the road. Kind of coming off a pretty tough non conference schedule. Hopefully we're not too beat up. Hopefully we're healthy.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

a rhythm, worked out some kinks in some, I won't call them games that don't matter, but games that matter less when it comes to trying to win a conference championship. and so then we, right off the bat, we're hopefully a battle tested team going and showing them what we're made of right off the bat and then get a buy. And then the next kind of stretch with Memphis and UAB back to back at home, that's, you can solidify, right. pretty strengthen the conference there, build on a lead there, exercise some of your demons from last year, rest up with another bi week right after that. And then you go into the kind of the homestretch there.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. Yeah. Navy. You got Charlotte in, in Charlotte, which will be, like I said, I'm going to that game, we can swing it if it's worth it. I'm, I'm up there just a little bit up the road and you got Tulsa and Rice. both of those feel like a great way to end the season, right? It used to be the end of the season was war on I 4, man. That was just a lot of fun. There is, I'm now I'm sitting here looking at it. There is maybe a point where we get to the end of the season and we're just. Not that enthused because the teams just aren't that exciting because the games just aren't that exciting and it's like, all right, we're winning, but

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

ideally what's carrying you there at that point is that you're playing for more than just. Which a coach or a player, you never want to hear that out of them. You always want them focused on one game at a time. ideally, if things are going the way we're hoping, you're building towards a conference championship game there. And that's what's bringing you back each week and got you tuning in is the excitement of where this is all building, what this is culminating towards versus whatever shit opponent we're playing each week. you talk about sound bites. I don't think it was Gola who said it, but they have like a kickoff party in Ybor.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

And I think it was, I think Michael Kelly was the one who, when he was going through the schedule, went ahead and put the American conference championship game out there as the 13th game already, so easy to do as the athletic director versus the,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Head coach can't be doing that, but I'm all about it. Looking at that schedule. you've got a nine and three, I've got a 10 and two. That's easily conference championship, depending on the wins and how that goes. if those predictions hold true, is that the only way this season is a success?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

it's a tough question.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. Yeah. That's why I asked.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I think the answer just based on where we are as a conference and the growth of this team is yes. I think you at least got to be in the championship game.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Sure.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

obviously once you make it, if you don't win it, that's not a success, right? I think, I think the goalposts keep moving for this team of if you'd asked me last year, if that's what was needed, I would definitely said no. But when we managed to make a bowl game, win that bowl game pretty easily, is eight and four enough improvement for me to be happy? look, I'll always be happy that we're not, if we're not. One in eleven,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

but no, I don't think that's a successful season. I think it's, with the talent we have right now, Yeah, we should be winning this conference.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

think that's where it's tough is when you come off a season where you have seven wins on the back of a season where you had one, Right. That level of improvement. People aren't satisfied by one extra win in the following season. Like you then have to go that much bigger. And in that's a conference championship. But like you said, getting to a conference championship and losing is a different kind of disappointment, but getting the conference championship, I think that would be the first time. Actually, I know that would be the first time this team has played for a conference championship.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Right.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

And that's USF, but be tough to make it there.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I think it resets to that point, right? I think you can't, The goal right now, one game at a time, win them all, that kind of stuff. But I think the goal is to make it so that you keep on playing football. And so the originally that was make a bowl games. You get to keep playing that right now. It's, I think it's elevated enough with the circumstances and the opportunity we have of the goal is to win a conference championship and get into that playoff. that would be sick dreams come true. And there's no reason that you can't. That's a, is it hard to achieve? Yeah, but it's, there's a reasonable opportunity to do that. You got to admit a lot of things got to go right, but the pathway is there that it's not some pipe dream, before with the 14 playoff, it was, you had to go 12 and O and beat some big teams, a la Cincinnati, to even get into that now they've graciously opened up this one G5 spot out of the 12 teams. Right. yeah. where, like I said, there's still some other teams and other conferences that could give you, even if you win your conference, that may steal that spot from you, right? It's not guaranteed to go to the American, but if you put together a good resume, even with some, even if they're losses to Alabama and Miami, but they're good before, you show that you at least belong on the field with them. Right. I think that helps your resume still. so that's where I'm hoping for. That's what would make an exciting season for me. and it's nice to be talking that way instead of being like, I hope to see us competently tackle some guys or learn how a blocking system works.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Come level fundamentals, baby. Fundamental one. We can do it. I know we can do it. I'm right there with you. not to beat the dead horse, but I do think, there is a little bit of excitement here. There is a little bit of like, all right, let's see how far this goes. Let's see how far this Boeing Starliner can take us and not strand us somewhere where we're not supposed to be.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

we'll be back in eight months.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, see you in 2025, baby! Speaking of, what comes next, man? What are we doing? Are we, we talked about this a little bit, but I don't know that we have a clear plan on what comes next, because

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

We don't. We heard the people, we heard the rumors of our demise. We're both alive and well. We still love USF football. We'll still be watching.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

It's just a pain in the ass to do a fucking podcast, I'll be honest. it was a lot, and like we said, if things are, if we're winning and things are going well, it kills the content too, you guys bitch all a lot less, there's less things to make fun of, less sound clips, and we all just get to enjoy it, so. We'll see. I think it'll probably depend how the season goes, honestly. I can certainly guarantee this will probably be the only content you get before Alabama. We get a win in Alabama, and you bet my ass I'll be recording something. Whether that ever makes it to the, the public's ears, I don't know. But, I'll certainly have some thoughts.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

maybe when I come in on Thursday night, we record something before everybody gets there, I sit down in the hotel room and do some

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

oh, we'll record something,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

yeah, we're recording,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

be for K's eyes only, though.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

we're recording some stuff and get it out there on the OnlyFans, but I'm with you, it just takes so much time, probably. More than we had realized and last season trying to find stuff doing two episodes a week It's a lot of content a lot of times. We're still trying to figure that piece out. Oh,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

said, if you have a, podcast editing background or a child, do you want to sell into slave labor? Let us

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

absolutely Yeah, whoever wants to edit this I think that's the hardest part editing this bullshit

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

because it's I mean I'm already dreading the fact that we're gonna have to edit this So who knows? You're gonna get some content. Can you fucking leave us alone, please? You'll get something. Are you happy? You're getting this. There will be more. There's gonna be other shit, too. Get off my nuts, Kay. WhatsApp. Waking up in the morning with 20 WhatsApp messages about shit I could record. I fucking hear you, man. I get it. So that's that. That's where we're at. How you feelin about it, Red?

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

I'm good. I think this is, felt good to talk some USF football. I'm excited. It's game week. Platoon Cookman just around the corner. I think as we see some live football, that'll drive our thoughts and our, content here as well.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

God knows we. Screw the pooch and lose to, Bethune Cook and, we'll be recording an episode two of, venting out those frustrations,

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

I'll be waitin by the computer for that one. You know what I mean? we think about it, just three wins this season, when, No, wait a

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

no, three wins would fucking suck.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

was

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

like

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

year. Times have changed quickly in one short season of Oh, we just want to see a little improvement, just, three wins would be our best season since 2017 or whatever, fucking 2019 or something. No, let's go ahead. we've gotten all that out of the way. We haven't, all the, Oh, we haven't had a road win in fucking four decades, whatever it was. And got all that off our back. And we can forget about all those kinds of dumb, cutesy little facts and just be like, Hey, let's go our best season ever.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. let's make this the best season since at least last year, because last year was pretty good. And, with any luck, better than 2017, 2007, great season before the wheels came off the operation. We got,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

we just gotta go win a fucking conference championship

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

there it is,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

and then promptly get the fuck out of this conference.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

this glorified CUSA, new American line. I don't even know what we're calling this anymore. We need to get the fuck out of here

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Oh, we didn't even touch on this. We got this fucking new Rutgers commissioner in here. trying to put in an NIL limit of how much we can pay, play guys. And I'm like, no, You're just already relegating us to second tier status and have us fuckin playing a halftime of fuckin SEC football games in no time, so

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

go right behind Stacy's dance school number like after the band we'll play like a quick scrimmage. It'll be like the equipment bowl that we had. That's just get Bobby out there suited up

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Yeah, but I'm excited, felt good to record this I know it's gonna suck to edit it, but We're definitely not ending the podcast, that's for sure And for those of you who were doubting me Doubting our commitment and our wherewithal to pump out content for you guys week after week. I just have to say one thing that'll definitely ease your doubts and your concerns in the words of the immortal Joe Biden.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

seriously. I don't, I'm not sure that guy is ever going to go. He's like the Ruth Bader Ginsburg of politicians.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

but I quote, let me say this as clearly as I can. I'm staying in the race

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Beautifully

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

worked out for Joe Biden.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

exactly.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

you guys have the utmost confidence you'll hear from Pooka and I again.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah. if you're Biden, that makes me Kamala. And so I'm all about that. I can be that. I can do that.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

we gotta find our Tim Walls, okay.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, exactly. That's

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

where you at?

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

There you go. There's no Bobby Shady

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

new dad, Bobby.

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Bob, let me see that dad, Bob. Yeah. Congratulations,

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

be an episode title right

pookah_1_08-25-2024_133225:

Yeah, dad, Bob, man. it's fun. As always, folks, this season's kicking off. We're excited about it. Can't say it enough. Go bulls.

red_1_08-25-2024_133233:

Go Bulls.