Carrying Cord: A USF Football Pod

That's the Kicker (Tulane Preview)

Pookah and Red Season 3 Episode 4

Send us whatever is on your mind.

We've got a real special one for you today. 100% focused on special teams, particularly our thunder and lightning kicker combo of Cannon and Grammatica. If that doesn't get you pumped for conference play this week, then don't call yourself a football fan. 

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Making a podcast sucks,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

really does.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

It's Karen Kort, folks, and I hope to God our audio is working, because it would really suck to do this whole thing and have it not. Where are your USF football podcasts in red? I may sound a little sad. That's because I am sad.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I thought you were Pooka.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

No, ultimate dad joke. Well, I'm that too, but ask me why I'm sad.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Why are you sad, Pooka?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

You can't ask it like you're reading it. You gotta ask it like you're genuinely interested. You wanna try that again?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

No, I've been over it. That's how the teleprompter works.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

This is, uh,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It's like script writing. You gotta start putting in some accents and stuff if you want me to show emotion.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Why are you sad, Puka? Because I just witnessed the death of our National Championship hopes red.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Great point, Pooka!

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Thanks.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Was that better for you?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That was really good. Also, I'm still mad about whatever that smelly celebration the Miami players were doing. I don't know what, I was mad just watching that. You probably, could you even see it from the stands where you're at, surrounded by 20, 000 Miami

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I was aware of it. I could see it. It did not

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

were aware. You had a,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

the Why they were celebrating.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

you had a concept of understanding of what was going on. Uh, before we get into what we're going to talk about today, I'll be a Neil. Now you can get off my ass. We lost this game, red.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

That's all you're going to say, just, just their

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

say. Just their names. And then they could kiss my ass.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

People are going to think that's our new, uh, foreign car sponsorship or

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That is. Obby and Neil Motors, you can trust us, we promise. We lost as bad, but not as bad, as Georgia Southern did to Ole Miss, so that's a positive.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Sure.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. I mean, I'm just pulling games out kinda like K did for his pump and dump.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

There you go.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Which he's super excited about, by the way. This was Not a fun game to watch.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yeah. I mean, fuck. Same feeling we had after the Alabama game, right? Missed opportunities. You love that you were in the game. You showed some competitive fight. You hate the final score. You feel like you left a lot out there. I don't think it really changes anything overall is where we stand on the season.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

It doesn't. And somehow it still feels painful. You know, I think that's kind of the USF that we know, is they give you some hope. And they make you feel good about a game you shouldn't really think you should be in. And then they take it away from you. And that, that's just so frustrating. That really is frustrating. And there were some things where we felt like, I mean, here's where I was kind of reflecting on the game, and we'll talk about it, but there were moments where they were incredibly frustrating that I don't know had a huge impact by themselves on the outcome of the game. We were going to lose that game. Miami is a fantastic team. I mean, they've got a lot of talent. We talked about that in the preview. Damn, there were just some moments, like the third down option to the boundary. Yeah. When you need a touchdown and you got Atkins on the other side of the field. Wide open. Mad. Angry. Red. I'm angry. I'm angry again.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

got emotions all over the place. Make up your mind whether you're mad or sad.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

know. Like, I had a long day at work. Just kinda. I need to take it out on something. I think it's gonna be you, Red.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It rolls right off me. Shit rolls downhill to all our faithful listeners. They're the ones who really

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

All

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

and die by your emotions. So

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

my stress right now. Why do you think we lost this game, Red?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

like you said, missed opportunities, particularly in the middle eight of the game, you know, right at the end of the first half, start of the second half. Were we ever gonna win it? I don't know. They had us edging on our, Niko Gramatica field goals in there. Like, we probably shouldn't have been that excited we were settling for field goals, but we were winning at one point, so we were.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I mean, I celebrated like Niko celebrated. I mean, I was amped when he kicked that field goal. And then I was like. Hey man, maybe don't jump around like that. That's dangerous for a kicker to do. We need that groin, baby. Come on. Careful.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

But yeah, it's, it's tough to, again, back to, we're seeing similar themes already through four, four games a season, settling for field goals. Uh, especially, you know, it was nice to take a one point lead, but you were down. Inside the eight yard line and you come away with three, uh, then they immediately come back with a touchdown one play later and what was a nice, you're feeling good is erased immediately. Then we put together another nice drive, drive down the field, try to get something with two minutes, settle for another field goal. And now, and now this time you actually missed the field goal. So like all of that positivity from the first half was erased going into half.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. I feel like the game plan has shifted. In Goldrush's first year, he had nothing to lose. There's only one way to go but up. And so, we took chances. I feel like there were shots. We went for it a lot more often on fourth down. I feel like this is now a coach and a game plan that's Trying to improve but playing a little bit more conservatively not being as risky as they were last season.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It's, it's very interesting because you're exactly right. Last year, we fourth and 15, we were going for it from like our

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. It didn't fuck. Man. We got nothing loose.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

some of that was necessitated one. It's just, you have nothing to lose too. It's just trying to see what you're playing with, inspire some guys, do whatever. We couldn't kick up field, go longer than 40 yards, save our life last year. This year, you know, some of that has gone away when you have a guy like grammatico can kick a 57. So now you don't have to make the choice between punting and a fourth and 15. Right. It is tough to see us. Not, I still would like to see that edge on some of the fourth and shorts, uh, especially in the red zone, show a little more edge down there, a little more competitiveness, but we still have done things like the fake field goal, the onside kick that you saw.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That was great

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Help a couple of yards away from, you know, really taking some pressure and putting it on Miami early in that game. Obviously we still try to find a margin there with running the tempo that we do.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I'd like to see us do some things with hard count, especially maybe on those fourth downs where we've decided we're not going to go for it, but we've shown in the past that we're willing to do fourth down, so if we line up and do a hard count, you might get the team to jump or something and get a free first down and then just take a delay game, kick, kick field goal or timeout, whatever you want to do. So,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I felt like USF played USF game and Miami was just better capitalized on the mistakes. We only had one offensive touchdown and it required a trick play to pull it off. I mean, that says something about the

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

true, but it's also. We were able to drive the ball better than I thought. I mean, the first, the first half we didn't punt and then you're still losing by a touchdown and I don't know how that works out, but

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

We didn't have our first punt until the second half. That was wild. And then Stokes gets out there. It was like, that's his first time being on the field. What? How the fuck did that

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I mean, and that sucks because coming out of that second half, yeah, we're down by a touchdown. Yeah. It felt, it feels like we've lost momentum and everything, but you've got the ball, you've got the chance to go tie it up. And then, you know, you can, we've had a little drive going, but some penalties to miss blocks. And then, like I said, then the first punt Miami immediately just shuts it down. Our throat makes a two score game and no looking back from there of, you know, We're pressing. They're just feeling confident at that point and couldn't muster anything in the second half. So

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

those penalties were, were brutal, but I mean, I felt like the flags were flying, uh, we don't have any ref John McDade, what the fuck's going on segment. But I mean, there were a lot of flags out there

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

a lot of flags, a lot of injuries, I think primarily like cramps and small stuff, luckily, you know, Byron gave us a scare for a while there, but it sounds like he's all good to go.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

because he, he took reps today.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yeah. Yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

You got some insider

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

practice notes. He's all solid to go from, from goalish and some good news. We may get Schuller back as well this week. So

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I mean, that would be awesome. Especially on the defense. I feel like that, that touchdown that we gave up, that Miami took off with it was just like a fundamentals error, right? Like you flip your hips. I don't know if he thought he had more safety help if for a second, he thought it was zone and came forward and then realized he was in man and just got burned by the receiver. That ends up being the touchdown that Starts the deluge of scoring

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

yeah, I think that was pure cover too. And he, he's, he's got to check the flat, but then he, he's in his back pedal. He turns inside, maybe think the guy's going to stop in for a dig or something, and then realize the guy's flat out running. So then he has to flip them all the way around to run outside. he's burnt and then the safety, just the wide side of the field. So he's got to get on his horse and get out there earlier. It takes a bad angle

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

and it's gone

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

and it's a perfect throw from, from, uh, Ward there too. so that was, that was really probably the singular. Turning point in the game, right?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Cause that, that's where it feels like, okay, we've been holding tough, but it just takes one small mistake. They're just waiting for that one small mistake. And it was one guy in man gets burned and that's it.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It did feel a little inevitable if you will, though. I mean, we were, I feel like we were punching above a little bit with just, you know, you could see it in the man coverage we were playing and how they were playing us defensively. It felt like, Hey, we're scrapping, we're fighting, we're doing everything we can do, we're clawing. But,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

sure.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

and yeah, you have a couple of leads in there, but never really felt like we were dominating them, right.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Do you feel like. The offense is in a good spot, or do you feel like, like they played exactly how they should have played against that Miami defense, because we felt like the Miami defense was a vulnerability, or do we think that like, there are genuine concerns with our offense? It feels like our offense right now. Starts and stops with Byron Brown. And if he's not, if he's not playing, we're not scoring.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I'd say both a little bit of column a little bit of column B, right. I think the offense did. Better in the passing game, driving the football against Miami. I think we still have pretty big problems in red zone in particular and running the football with someone besides Byron Brown. Our offensive line wasn't making holes. Wasn't, wasn't doing much there. So I think there's still some glaring things that need to improve. The good news is each week from here on out, the competition gets. Easier and easier. it's, it's also the opposite of that is each week is probably our biggest game of the season. You know, the next two, particularly with Tulane and Memphis, you, you win those both, you're in the driver's seat for winning the conference, you at least split them, you're in pretty good shape. You kind of got to play a perfect season from there on out, but there isn't really anyone else talent wise who matches up with you. If you lose them both, uh, your season's essentially over. Um,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

We're, we're back in Birmingham

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Exactly. You're playing, you're trying to motivate this team to get to eight and four to show some improvement or something. Right. Like that's not what we're hoping for at the beginning of the season. And that's when it becomes a mental game of keeping everybody together and playing for something.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

and it's, it's a little bit of putting the car for the horse, but we're losing some guys this season. And so there's a little bit of, we've got some commits. We've got some folks to look forward to next season. We don't usually talk recruiting here, but. You got some folks who were up there that we lose them. And I don't know that we have the depth behind them right now. I mean, we've got some pretty senior guys on the offensive line who comes behind them, right? I'm pretty sure Lofton,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yep. You're right.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Like, and maybe that's a good thing because our offensive line is not that great.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

But it's also like if those young guys can't beat out these guys, how good

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

yeah, exactly.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It's a big question mark for sure.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, this is all in all. I can talk about my spectrum of emotion in this game, and it was hope, and excitement, and then dread, and then anger and sadness. And then anger and sadness with myself, because I should never have let myself get excited about the game.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Here's my thing. I agree. It's all over the place with this team right now. You've seen two halves of football against top five teams where we. Would say we still haven't played our best. You know, we haven't put together just clicking everywhere all offensively and we're still managed to hang in there for two halves. And then you've seen two halves of football where we've just shown our ass and gotten demolished. I'd say the biggest thing is consistency, right? Like you want, you want to start your season now essentially with put all that to bed, don't worry about. The ups and downs of that bring the intensity you were able to bring, but we still got to execute better. And hopefully we can against worse competition, essentially.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Well, I mean, that's where, all over the place, it's kind of scary, because 0 to Southern Miss, and we come back and we start playing, but there's no consistency there. Like, where's this team against, Lesser opponents. And I mean, I think there was an article in the Tampa Bay times. I think it was Joey Knight talking about like, okay, USF has, has learned to play the first half. Where's the second half. But I think you don't know what team you're going to get in the first half. It's scary. It's scary as a fan. Cause you absolutely could lose any given Sunday, but Saturday or Friday or Thursday with college football. But I mean, you feel like you lose any game,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Don't

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

any game right now feels up for grabs on the

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

for sure. And don't discredit Maction Tuesdays with conference realignment. Who knows, who knows when we go play

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Tuesdays, maybe we're not going to the pack

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

thank God for that.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

We don't have that in the outline. How are we, how are we not going to talk about us basically bending over and showing our ass to the world To the PAC committee and be like, no, we're good.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

We're good. But then we also are the only ones not, uh, sucking off the AAC either, where all the other four were, were like, Oh, we're committed to the American. And we just retweeted the, uh, we did not post our own graphics. So yeah, what he said, we're, we're totally committed. Yep.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

We're totally on board. We're just the creative guys off today. So we don't have anything. We can't come with our own thing. Well, I promise I'm totally in this babe. I'm not going anywhere. I swear. I'm committed to you.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I don't know why I have notifications on for the big 10 and the AACC.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. Well, I don't, I don't know why they're on my, I haven't been texting them. I haven't been texting them, baby. You're the only one for me. You're the only TV deal. I want ESPN plus. It's beautiful. It's great. Well, what else do we need to say about Miami? Because I feel like all in all, if we won, that would have been an exciting game. We lost. Didn't tell us too much. It was a better opponent. Doesn't have any impact on conference play. We're about to get into what really matters.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yeah, I think, I think we can move on to Tulane here pretty quickly. of special teams was surprisingly had a couple miscues, the block texture point, the miss field goal. Uh, we tried to down a punt at the one and I think it was a Jay Conn Smith. Just missed it. Just sat down on the one and

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

yeah. And that's tough when you have great, like, Hey, how about we talk about a great play on special teams where Canon laid the wood

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

that is true. Yeah. The, the block texture point, but he showed the wheels again.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, I

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

he's trying to get off special teams. he's like dramatic and have field goal kick in. I mean, they're going to go be a. Running back, wide receiver, maybe a safety now. He's

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

yeah, he's got a headhunter energy cannon. He said, all right, you all think I should be off this team? I'll show you to play every fucking position. He's going to mark my words for the end of the season. Cannon has a passing touchdown. Put money

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I like, I like.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

What else, what else did we have during this game? defensively, we just weren't getting there with the blitz. Cameron Ward had all day, and he was cool under pressure. He'd sidestep a blitzer and then launch at 40 yards. third down defense was pretty awful, especially when we'd get them to third and long. I think that was frustrating. It was early in the game. we Got some TFLs, put them in some bad down distance, and then they just converted and kind of took the life out of the crowd,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

They would absolutely like third and 15 and all of a sudden they get it easy. Like, oh, man, we totally got this.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

And it kind of the crowd was nice, right? Like it was strong. A lot of Miami supplemented, obviously, but students were, a lot of them, I feel like that was their first game ever attending, because a lot of them didn't seem to know when they were meant to be cheering. It was a little frustrating.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, it's their first game,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I tell you what, what really, talked about the range of emotions was. The dropped pick six on like the first play would have exploded that place.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

he, he read it too. It hit him right in the hands. He had it. He had to jump on the ball. It was Austin. I believe. Yeah. And he, I mean, how awesome would that have been? Cause that's to the house. You catch up all that's that's, that's a pick six.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

You know, he's dropping that smelly celebration right back at him. If he, if he hits,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

back at him. Oh my gosh. And then we would've got our ass kicked. I mean, then they would have come down and really give in to us, but that was just an awesome, awesome play. Cause I think then they went down and scored on that

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

yeah, they did.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Then they, they went on and made us pay for it.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I think that's all I got for Miami.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I mean, that's, let's leave Miami in the rear view.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

was a fun game. I enjoyed it. Gave me something to cheer about for half. I've seen a lot worse football out there. Let's move on to the real season.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Alright, we got Minuteman Red,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

At your service.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Minuteman Militia. I am ready. I had someone tell me that I need my own segment.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Oh, okay.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That you get too much air time. I don't agree with

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I mean, we don't have enough airtime to give you 20 minute, 20 minute dick pounding until you bleed who can over here.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I last forever. So, in the interest of keeping our listeners satisfied, not bored. Don't want to put them to sleep. Nothing's worse than them going to sleep in the minute that you're doing work.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

What if they start asleep,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That's illegal, and I'm not commenting on that. I don't know. I don't want to know what you do on the weekend, right? All right, you know the rules. He has 60 seconds. I'm not gonna time it this time because one of the things we got for feedback was, man, that was a really annoying buzzer, and you're gonna kill someone on the sideline, or you're gonna, well, on the sideline, maybe, but kill them on the interstate when they hear that buzzer and drive off the highway. So I'm just gonna time it, and then I'm gonna do A very peaceful buzzer. Ask you the questions. You got 60 seconds. You run out of time. It doesn't matter. We're going to talk about it anyway, so I don't know why we do it this way. Probably just so we have less to, uh, edit.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

but wait you start my time. I just had a very important comment to say, so I want to make sure it wasn't counting against me. If you're listening in the car, great, perfect place to listen to the podcast. If you're listening on the sideline of a football game, please put it down. We're not, we don't, we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, put it down. If, we're not here to give you any sort of idea of what you should be doing out there. And if you're listening on the sideline, go back and listen to the first episode. To what happens to someone when they don't pay attention to what's happening on the field. A little look out, Bobby. Alright, I'm gonna start the timer. You got 60 seconds. You ready?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Ready.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

And go. Who are we playing?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

We are playing pool lane.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Whatever. What's their current record?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

They're two and two, just like us. They beat a FCS team and a Sunbelt team, but then they lost to two top 25 teams.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

What is the line

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Minus six and a half, favoring two lane.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Really?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Most dangerous player for them.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Uh, running back number 21, uh, Hughes. He had 1400 yards last year. He's averaging 100 a game and five yards of carry this year.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Biggest vulnerability.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I don't know what their base vulnerability is to be honest. Their defense special team is pretty solid. They had to pick six and three out of four games at a kickoff return for touchdown. Probably just an inexperienced offense.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

You came prepared today. your, uh, boyfriend's favorite shirt that you wear?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Definitely the Hawaiian button down all the way.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

What do we have to do to win this game?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Consistency.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That's it? Doo

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yeah, I mean, both sides of the ball. Bring some intensity to like we're playing in Alabama

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. A minute's up, so stop talking red. All that football knowledge in your head. Shut up, shut up. The time is up. Yeah. But hit me with an interesting fact, please. And that's the last time

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Interesting fact. Last time we played Tulane was the 45 to 31 loss at home, where we thought we were turning around the Jeff Scott era. Bohannon was clicking and then he got hurt. That was the big injury game for Gary Bohannon. It was. And that started the Katravis Marsh era, which then quickly went into the Byron Brown.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, but he doesn't take another snap after that.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Gary did not? No, he's out in, uh, BYU now, I

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

He's out soaking. I

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

What'd I miss on my, uh, two lane fastest minute there?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I think you covered it all. This is I. We got to recognize that this is really the start of the season. Everything else before now was, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We're not, we would like to think, but strength of schedule is not going to matter. We're not going to make it in the college football playoff. It's going to be interesting if the American even gets a birth in the college football playoff, really, we're going for the goal of a conference championship. We have never done it in program history. This is where the rubber meets the road. If Alex Golasz has. A worse season last season. Maybe we're not talking about conference championship, but he didn't. And the expectations around this program are sky high. The game this weekend is a must win.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I like it.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. Uh,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I don't have anything. It's, yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

that's all you

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

see the facts saying we have the, we have the number two strength of schedule so far through the first four weeks of the season, which is believable based off of Alabama,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

played.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

But, but, but then again, Southern Miss just lost to Jacksonville State, got destroyed, so that looks, that win looks worse and worse every day.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. That doesn't make me feel great at all. But it's still, Miami and Alabama are good teams and we hung with them. That says something. To say that we are. Underdogs against Tulane doesn't feel great.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It doesn't, and look, this is where we're gonna stop being like, oh, that was a good team we had with them. Tulane, you got to just go win the games now. There's no, there's no hanging around in the conference schedule. You just got to win

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

no such thing as moral victories. That's loser talk.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

That's right.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Isn't that what Goat

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

very smart man.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah. Very smart,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I wish he was our head football coach.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I wish that guy was coaching football. Did he have any comments about

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Uh, let's see what he had to say today. gave us the injury update. The usual talk about the Miami of, you know, the highs and the lows. Gotta. Got to get the best out of the team for a full football game. Oh, he is a little concerned about the start time. You know, we've played only 7 PM game. so far, he's got to get his team up for an 11 AM local time. Start said, said the guys are excited about it though, that we have morning practices anyways. So they're just looking forward to waking up and playing football.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Getting out of the way early. Go have you some breakfast. Team breakfast. Ride over the stadium. Equipment guys will be up four in the morning, I'm sure. That is if they even go to sleep. Lee's. Control those guys. So they're up at the stadium getting everything set up. I can, I cannot confirm or deny that there were times where I just never went to bed and showed up at the field the next day in a state that I should not have been in.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Hey.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

it's past the statute of

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

The one time I remember doing that, we beat FSU. So,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, there you go. One of the times I remember doing that was at FAU and I had the Hoo! Hoo! Through the sound of a splitting headache. One of the most painful experiences of my life.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

and that's why we set up the stadium the day before, people. So we're not missing helmets or jerseys on game day.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I remember setting up West Virginia and getting mad because everybody came in in a good mood and I had just gotten off the road. I was riding in the truck with Wayne. He was pissing me off the whole time. No one knows who Wayne

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Shout out, Wayto!

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

me off. Shout out Wayne. I hope you're doing well, man. and your cold drinks. And then everybody comes in and they're all in a great mood and I'm pissed because I've been setting up the stadium by myself. And then nobody wants to do anything. And then everybody gets mad at me because I'm mad. I'm like, what the fuck y'all doing? Do you see everything set up? Well, everything wasn't set up, but do you see a lot of stuff set up? I didn't get enough credit back then. And then we won that game.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

don't get enough credit as a podcast manager over here either.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I don't. People want more of you.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

That's not true.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Free Puka. Free my man Puka. People want more of you. They say you are a natural sportscaster. Right up there with Stephen A, and Shaq, Tom Brady,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Quite the company you're putting me in there.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier. Yeah.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

You done? You good?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

No, I mean, those are the people who are,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I thought you were gonna give me a little Celine Dion too for my singing, but

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

uh But you know who does make them sing? Kay.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

he's making people a lot of money right now. I

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

seriously, people, you need to stop sleeping on Kay's pumperdump. Kay's, uh, uh, pumperdump.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

hope you bet the house on ARMY like Kay told you to.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

He told you. And we made fun of him. And for that I am sorry. Real American Hero! 2

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Hey, watch out for ARMY by the way. They're, they got two wins and we're talking about starting conference play. They're already 2 0 in the conference, so.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

0 in the conference, we're just starting with Tulane. Poo lane, as you so eloquently put it.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

But back to Pick A's Pump and Dump, uh, his pick for this week is, he's taking Colorado, Coach Prime, 14 and a half. They're underdogs against that team down the street.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Of course they're underdogs. Of course. I don't know, we dodged a fucking bullet. I am so glad we did not get Coach Prime. Somebody saw something we didn't. He's done some wild shit over there. It sounds crazy. What was the thing that they were talking about? That he makes him play his son's song when they make a touchdown. Whenever he scores a touchdown, the band can't play the fight song. Did you see that? You did see that.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I did.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

You're just not saying much because you just chugged a whole

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

chugged some water,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, you're feeling all right over there? Did I get you amped up? It's just, you feeling good?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

already said you're editing out my funny jokes, so my feelings are

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

don't know. I might, I might leave it in and we might get canceled.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

You're the one who said it, not me.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I'll make sure I highlight who, who it is that actually says it. All right. So I don't know. I don't know that I would take that bet, but they've been keeping it interesting.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It's a conference game, I mean they got, they got some weapons, 14 and a half's a lot.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

that is a lot. That is true. That's, and it is C, and they suck,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Right, they barely, they barely fucking beat TCU, they should have lost that game.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, exactly. They should lose every game they play because they suck.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Kay must be feeling happy though, because he's riding the victory here, and he's taken USF to win straight out this week as well.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Wow. All right, not even cover. We're gonna win.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Dogs are gonna win. All right, I can take that. I can live with that. You know what else I can live with?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Your exes?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Having fans. Yeah. Well, that's

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

That's probably who this fan mail's

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, that probably is. Thanks mom. So we told you last week that we had fans, that we had fan mail. We got fans, we got fan mail. We had fan mail where you can go and send us a message. And one of you took us up on it. I was pleasantly surprised.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

One, one brave soul.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

One brave soul. And guess what? They get a shout out on the pod. What they said. Let me read what they said. I'm going to do it in flattering voice because I'm thankful that they wrote us a message. They said, well, we're going to, I'm going to take just excerpts. Carrying core. What I really want is a conference championship. Keep up the good work. Probably top three or four podcasts in all of existence right now. Did you burp on

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

You know?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

was that?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I was holding it in during your whole,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

juggling. We are top 3 or 4

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

again.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

podcasts. I don't know what else. We are also interested in the conference championship. If you just listen to what we talked about.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

And we are carrying court.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, we are. Caring Court. We are all those things. I'm a little upset that we're not top 1 or 2 podcasts. I would like to know who those top 2 are. And if you say Joe Rogan. Don't listen to my podcast ever again.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

What's the, the original podcast? The true crime one with,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Is it cereal?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Yeah, Serial. Yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That's a good one. Is

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

going back to jail, though?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

he really?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

whatever, yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Anon Syed or whatever. Adnan. That's one of the first podcasts I ever listened to shoveling snow in Germany. I'll never forget that man. He's going back to jail. Fuck man. Free my guy. That sucks.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

been in a never ending nightmare of our court system. Whether he did it or not, it's been, uh,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

lower court vacates, Supreme Court reinstates, vacates, reinstates. It's been crazy.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I'd imagine it's very similar to being a fan of this football team. Hahaha.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Things are finally looking up around here.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Finally going great. Yeah, back to jail. Back to mediocrity. Yeah, very sorry for you folks. Oh, well, I'm happy to be among the top three or four podcasts for you, and I'm sure other folks would think the same. Tell your friends. Tell everyone about this podcast. For whatever reason, maybe they just need something to listen to on a long road trip to work in the morning.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Maybe they want to synchronize themselves with Red's fastest minute.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Hey, I try to keep up. I listen to it, time myself. I'm, I'm beating you out every time. I got it. And speaking of beating it out, we got a request on the bull's pen. They want us, what was that face? They want us,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Well, you said speaking of beating out, we got a request. I didn't know if someone's asking

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

yeah,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

home video or what there.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

they want to see us live.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Oh, beating it out live. Got it.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

They want to see us beating it out live. Like one of those shows on Bourbon street,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Never saw that one.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

me either. And I'm glad I didn't make it. Everyone was going, not me. I have a little bit more self respect than that. They want to see us.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

it's New Orleans, for the road trip this week. shout out the spot for any of our visiting fans.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

They got four for one beer deals down there. Some of the,

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It's an 11 a. m. start though. Don't go too crazy.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Oh gosh, they have the hurricanes. There's no drink on earth that has consistently made me black out more than the hurricanes on Bourbon street. I just, I've never had anything like it. They want to see a live episode. We're going to give it to them. Red

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

It won't be this week in New Orleans. I can tell you that.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

be this week in new Orleans. No.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Won't be next week for the bye week either.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

How

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

that who knows? Who knows?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

if we will put it right here, if we make a conference championship, Red and I will consider a live episode at the conference championship tailgate.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I think that's, I think that's pretty solid.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

You think that's fair? We put our money where our mouth is? It's not gonna be till what, December?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

That would be December, yeah?

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, make that work. Will you make that work? I don't

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

and we will have Michael Kelly on there with us.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

We will. We'll have random ass people walking by. Hey, you want to be on a podcast? You want to come do it? We'll coordinate it. We didn't get to meet Brad and Bama from the bulls pen, but I know I'll run into him eventually. You'll find all these folks. Bring out all the people. Maybe we'll even, now we won't do nothing with Pod, by the way. Fuck those guys. What, what?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

ha ha ha ha ha.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

What score predictions we got, man? Who do you think? I'll do mine because I think you did Miami first.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Okay.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I think somehow, one way or another, We get the offense rolling. Turns into a shootout. Tulane is a good team. Our defense shows up at certain points. But they manage to score at least four. We win 35 28. USF wins this one.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I like it. I like it. similarly with you, I think offense gets some run game going. I think defense does get the pick six this week, and that's the difference in the game. And we win 41 37.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Ooh. Wow. Okay. 41, so You're tacking on a couple

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Gramatica field goals, yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Yeah, you got a couple field

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Maybe one Gramatica, one Cannon.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Long dick kick in there that he had going. Yeah. Alright, I'm with it.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

we may not do a live podcast with Pod by the Bay, but I will jello wrestle Nathan Bond at any time. Ha, ha, ha.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Eugh. Brother, eugh. Brother, what is that? No. Eugh. Alright, I think you just wanted to put that out there. I don't think that's

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

No, no, we totally got fan mail asking for that!

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I totally, you sent in a message like, Red, isn't this your phone number? Where did this come from? Oh, I will begrudgingly jello wrestle Nathan Bond and it's not something I want to do and please don't reach out to us. And here's my number. Whatever, we can probably get Bobby in on it too and K. O. videotape. So, folks, when you, when you typed this up, I thought this said the first game day of the season, I thought you were fucking with me, but no, the words say first, It is a noon start. Do you think this game is going to last four and a half fucking hours like the Miami game did?

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Definitely.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Gosh. We'll have to see how that early start and potentially the long game affects the two lane home crowd. Our players, maybe they won't show up. Maybe it ends up being like an empty stadium. Don't party too hard on the Bourbon Street. I just told you where all the drink deals are at. I don't know that they're going that early in the morning. So if you end up going. Overnight. Ugh. Game's going to be on ESPNU. Might be a hurricane coming through. I don't know.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

one in the Gulf. I mean, you were talking about the good hurricane, there's a bad hurricane. Looks like it's gonna miss both New Orleans and Tampa as of right now, but, uh,

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

You never know.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Next 24 48 hours will be big.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Something to keep an eye on. Should be getting around to that area Wednesday, Thursday anyway, and hopefully moving through and just creates a wet field, so lots of turnovers or something, that's not how drying out doesn't work. Don't forget to send us your fan mail. Wherever we get the podcast, you'll see the link inside the episode description that we take a lot of time to type up. You get the podcast on Apple, Amazon, Spotify, all the places. We release it everywhere. You can also catch us over on the bulls pin where we're engaging in the discussion. Every once in a while when I remember to open up my browser on my phone, join the discussion. We're reading, we're looking red, spin a lot of time, not doing nothing, following the shit. Right.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

That's right. I do all the fuckin work. And you won't even let me get a little jello wrestling in for fun.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Won't even let you. I've watched you. I know you have Jello over there right now.

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I do.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I know you have it

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

I'm a big jello shot guy. A little too pussy for regular shots, so.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

I was Hey guys, I got some jello shots here. Not again. You're the you're the you're the guy who There's no jello left in the cup, but you're still sticking your tongue in it and i'm like

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Oh yeah, make an eye contact as I do it, oh yeah, yeah.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

Hey guys, I got a jello shot. It's like god get that. Why is he doing that outside in elementary school as always folks go bowls

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Go bulls. Hey, is there like a secret message in here with the first two letters of Apple, Amazon, and

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

No, just when I was I think i'm having some sort of like

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

Lock up on the finger with the shift key or

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

aren't working anymore. So I just end up capitalizing the first two letters of every

red_1_09-24-2024_181152:

app amps pss. I was like, what the fuck does that spell? But no.

pookah_1_09-24-2024_181153:

That's it. Stop recording.