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ADHD & De tre principper med Sanne Schroll Lønborg

• Louise Mejborn, Tina Hofmann & Sanne Schroll Lønborg • Season 3 • Episode 5

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Har du nogensinde følt, at dit sind dikterede dine følelser og din måde at være i verden på? Vores gæst er i dag Sanne Schroll Lønborg. Sanne er Coach og underviser i mental sundhed ud fra forståelsen De Tre Principper
Hun afsløre, hvordan vi ofte befinder os i tilstand, hvor det er vores tanker der kontrollere vores måde at være i verden på. Hvordan der stadig er glimt af fred, kærlighed og glæde, selv når du føler dig i den dybeste og mest pressede periode af dit liv.

Er du klar til at håndtere dine følelsesmæssige reaktioner sammen med os, når Sanne guider os gennem hendes opdagelse af de tre principper? Vi dykker ned i vigtigheden af at reflektere over vores egne tanker og følelser. For ved at gøre det, låser vi op for en følelse af kontrol over sindet og får dermed adgang til en mere fredfyldt tilværelse. Sanne fremhæver vigtigheden af at investere i sig selv og at gå på opdagelse i sig selv. Selv når man er alle dybest nede i et KÆMPE SORT HUL. 

Vi vil også udforske hvad spiritualitet kan gøre ved os, eller skulle vi sige vores mavefornemmelse. For det er enormt vigtigt at turde lytte til den når man fx står med et barn i mistrivsel.

Alt dette og meget mere kommer du igennem i dagens afsnit. Måske bliver du lige så inspireret af de tre principper som vi blev imens samtalen flød.

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Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It's a understanding that describes everything we experience, regardless of where it is, so it's the strength of our thoughts. All of our experiences come from, for example, what we sit here and do a podcast. When we go from here, we will be able to have our own experiences of how it was to be here.

Tina Hofmann:

Welcome to the HOD sisters.

Louise Mejborn:

Hi Tina, hi Louis.

Tina Hofmann:

We have a guest again? Yes, we have. We are so happy here. I think it actually works really well that we have guests with us this time, because we have been able to help all kinds of people and we would like to share that with you, and that's why we have the time to have guests with us, yes, and that we have with us today.

Louise Mejborn:

I think it's actually very exciting Because I think we have Sanna with us and she has a different way of thinking. Can't you say that?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes.

Louise Mejborn:

I think, so. And I think it's about waiting for things in a different way so that you think more positively. Is that correct, Maybe?

Tina Hofmann:

Sanna. We also have Karlo in the studio today. He's a bit up to speed. Yes, he's a bit up to speed. If you hear some click sounds, then it's just Kat that I don't know what she's doing. Sanna is a coach in the three principles and I have known Sanna for many years. What have we known each other for? Something like 12, 13 years or something.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, I think so. We have almost been neighbors, and that time you started to take into the three principles, I think so, which is very exciting, because it means that you can't use it. It's just thinking, and it's just. I think you have to tell me what it is about. Yes, I would like to, and welcome to it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Thank you. What I'm working on is a understanding of the three principles. It's also called the understanding of the outside world, and it's really just a new way, or a different way, of understanding our mind and how we function as humans. So it's not a method or a technique there's not a lot of things to do but it's just a new way of understanding how we function as humans and we experience all kinds of thoughts, and some may have more thoughts and some may have thoughts that come out of nowhere, a lot of others. But all kinds of this experience is that it just goes through different thoughts and we can't control what thoughts come out of it. They just come out of a long stream, like the clouds in the sky come out of that stream. They come out of it now.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

But what we can understand is that the thoughts are not us. We are something else. We are what is behind the thoughts. And when we start to understand that we are not our thoughts, then there's a gap between us and the thoughts, or what we are and what we are when. I myself, in any case, was very upset that I took my thoughts seriously and listened to them a lot. I thought I would follow them, listen to them and act after what I have now naturally have been doing, and it was extremely exhausting because I was constantly controlled by all kinds of thoughts like I remember that, or long time to-do lists, or thinking about how I should be or what others think. Have you always?

Tina Hofmann:

thought a lot.

Louise Mejborn:

A lot, a lot.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

And I've also had a lot of depressive and sad thoughts about life being nothing and having trouble finding out what the goal of being is, and having had a lot of those thoughts, and every time a thought is broken, I think it's extremely annoying and I've listened to it a lot and when I get well, I get a lot of sadder and get really upset because it's broken up and I feel more and more because I've just thought more and more and more. And I think a lot of that is done because we take it seriously when these thoughts come to us and think, oh, what am I thinking?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

And then maybe it's right to just say, oh, God, and then we just get to know to put more and more things and then, when it's a hole, that's just maybe first that comes with a little bit of a bump, then it's a huge hole for us, because we believe in thoughts and follow the thoughts.

Louise Mejborn:

There's something I've just thought about. I've read it once. It's about depression. Is it something you think about? Can you say that? I don't know if that's true.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

You can say that when you get depression, you just have a huge, huge, very sad thoughts and you become who you are in these thoughts. But what's interesting when I talk to people who, for example, have depression, is that they feel sad thoughts as if they're there all the time. And considering the first conversation, they'll say I've been depressed monthly, sometimes maybe over-dressed. And then when I look at the room, is there maybe some holes? Well, I'm, oh, but in the middle of the morning it's a little different. Or in the middle of the afternoon, when I've taken a nap, I just wake up and it's actually just a second.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

And when we start looking at God in the back of all these sad thoughts, I'm still not human. And as a human I'm not depressed. I don't care about anything else. We're sitting on a lot of labels on each other. You're just human. Even if you talk a lot about this podcast, you have a lot of it, but that's just, that's just something you have In the back of it. You're still not just human, and that's what we all mean. We all have the same peace, the same feeling of love, the same feeling of joy. It's lying in the back of the thoughts, but we'll keep hearing it because it's just alarming so much.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes. So I think that when we have these brains we can really get out of a tangent. That's huge at the same time that maybe some children have it hard if you press yourself and you press the workers and then you come to a negative because you also get a little bit under yourself and at the same time you also get a little bit together. Now you have to go and like it's hard to feel it positively in the world and I think that's really a lot to recognize that you actually give up and there's just nothing that works. And we just have to say that we've said it many times when we have a welfare society where you actually just have to try the pelihon, what's the point?

Tina Hofmann:

we symptoms are treated that way and then, you have to find out yourself and what it's like to catch it. You have to try to put it down a little bit and then you can just feel, when you start talking about this, this has to think in a completely different way and just be in fact. I actually have a feeling that it's thought-provoking, but it's actually just a thought that the world doesn't look like it's you, that the world looks like it's you, that it's about moving your thoughts or what, because then it comes to the point of listening to something you have to do.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

And also, if you, some people say, when it's about you just have to think positively, that's what you mean and try to think positively if you have it bad.

Louise Mejborn:

Well, that's what I meant, for example, what you're saying now, it's just really bad and it's raining, and it's not very good. And then I think it's important to think about it and to think about it and to say, oh, that's just nice, you can sit here with a cup and a cup of warm tea and wait for it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, yes, and you can do that. But if it's something you do because if it's a technique I have, that I try to think positively then it can be exhausting, because if we have to do techniques, it's always exhausting, regardless of what it is for a technique, whether it's something we do in our heads. So it's something that we should remember ourselves and it should be. But the more we get an eye that we actually work differently, then it's not something we need to do, we don't need to do, we don't need to remember it. We don't need to have a certain technique and experience to get this good place.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

What I have got an eye on is that I am something other than all this anxiety that runs around my head, and it still runs around my head, but now I just get an eye on what it is and I know that it's not dangerous. I think that's what I thought before, that this is my thought and that I should live with the rest of my life, and now I feel sorry for it and that I will probably feel a little bit slow now, because that's how it was then. But what I have got an eye on now there is actually a movement and I'm down right now, but then if I give up on it and don't do it, then I will automatically grow up, because that's so fantastic with our human beings that we automatically, we have an elevator in the nearest and we automatically get up on one of the two floors. If we just give up or whatever, to be the one to press down, and with that I mean to be the one to be the one to do the negative thoughts.

Tina Hofmann:

When you start with the three principles, you have two children. And did you have children at that time, or did you already start before?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It was just about the Christmas.

Tina Hofmann:

that was my number two, so it takes a bit of time but it was about the children, but I think that's also part of it, because I think there are a lot of nuisers sitting with these girls and we are beginning to. It begins to go up for us when we have children. A lot of women are first out of the ordinary when they have children. We have a lot of that information. One thing is that you have ADHD. Another thing is that you are now I'm getting a call for help. Another thing is that I also think that it's a way that the brain works on. There are things where you can find medicine that can help you get better, but in my opinion, it's just a brain that thinks in a different way, and there are a lot of things you can do yourself. Medicine is a part of it, and I'm sitting here thinking that there are a lot of women that find out how their brain is connected with the children, Because you suddenly start to see yourself in this little human being.

Tina Hofmann:

You start to suddenly have some completely different demands for yourself, and then you start to delve a little bit into what is happening, Because there are also many. I thought at the time I had had a sad stomach. I thought suddenly I had had a feeling of depression Because I really had a call. I really thought I was a native mother. I couldn't find out why he couldn't just sleep when I said that. And then you start to doubt those negative uterine thoughts. You really try to find all kinds of help. How can I, how do I get happy again? So there are also some things that sometimes there is a shock to find out. Okay, now I have to do something else. But you can't force yourself into something.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

No, you should want to look at this direction yourself. I really have been a son almost my whole life Because as a child I grew up with a father who had a lot of mood swings. I think maybe he really has had a lot of depression and it has never been diagnosed, but he is at least in a very deep hole in the stomach. And that magical joy that was there in the stomach. It was so incredible and I couldn't control it. I wanted to find out how I can hold on to it. That was really what has been my most powerful strength since I was a child To live after home. What is it that you do to keep that joy?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I have looked at all kinds of psychological and psychological-oriented directions. I am personally in support of this understanding and I am aware that it is something else, because all the other psychological methods or psychological directions have been helpful, because they have explained something and then they have given a form of technique or method. If you just have to follow these seven trends, or you just have to say these things to yourself every morning in the mirror, what is it now? We all have tried all kinds of things and it seems to be super nice Right. When you start you are very enthusiastic. When you do everything right, you can really feel that you get it better. It is very nice.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

But then you have to do it in the course of a few days or hours. Then life comes and you just have to believe in the world. Then you forget it and then it doesn't work anymore Because you have to be who you are doing it with. And that is the difference in this understanding, because you start to understand how one's mind works and you start to see when it is like this for me. And when I talk to people I always try to be curious about their own life, because that is what I say a lot about it. Because now we try to understand our intellect. But it is not a good thing to understand our intellect. We forget it in three days. But if you have seen it for yourself and know it is like this for me, then there is nothing you have to learn, there is nothing you have to remember Because you know it.

Tina Hofmann:

Would you like to tell a little about the three principles? Yes, what is it?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It is a understanding of our mind and it is called the three principles Because he started talking about it. He had a very spontaneous insight or experience, and to see back into our mind, if you can say so, and he described it as thought and awareness. And what was it? Life force. But to explain if the three principles really make him the great scientist, I would rather say that it is a understanding that describes everything we experience Unconsciously. Where it is, it is created by our thoughts All our experiences come from.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

For example, we sit here and make a podcast. When we go from here, we will be able to have our own experience of how it was to be here, and that is not because there is something different that has happened to us, but it is because we filter it through our own thought system. So in that way, we will have different experiences. I have also been to a family festival or something where you go from there and talk about it afterwards and the only thing I think the festival has been nice, and the other thing is that it was completely terrible. But because you have different experiences of what is good and what is bad, that is just something we lay into ourselves after the hand that we grew up with. Then you experience something different, and that is how it is with all experiences that come from.

Tina Hofmann:

You do not think about it. You never want to think about it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

No, because what I look at when we sit here and make a podcast is, of course, what I experience. Or if you hear someone snoring or a man is snoring or a child is snoring or something like that, then I have heard that he snored at me. So that is what I have experienced. But if our child snores, then we think that he is not known. He is also super busy. What is it now?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

The other time we think I am just such a bad mother. Why can't I teach him how to be okay? Or maybe we think that he is also because he has it. I am very sorry for his loss. It is nice that he has so much to do that he is needed to snore to come out of it. He has done the same thing and we have had three different experiences, because we were just three different places where he did it. One day we had to go through, the other day we did not have so much to do. It is very different where we are, and then we experience what is happening around us again and again.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

What do you do when you are in these situations, for example, with a child who has snored, or a man or yes, the more I look at my experiences being created from myself, the less I think about what they do, because I know what it is about. I also know if I am in the cold, there is not much to do before I snore. So when they snore, I know what it is about, what it is about what I am and because I know it, I have really seen it for myself. So it is not a technique I need Now. I also have to remember when it is something with an elevator If it was, I would not use it for something because we react with it together. So I cannot think about a lot of thoughts at once. I cannot make a technique for being more normal, but because I really have seen it, it is how I work. I know it works. Then it just takes a little. I sometimes cry because if I am in the elevator, I am just a snore, so it is not.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

But if I am at a place where I have a snore I know how it works then I do not have to take it personally because I know it is not about me. It is different when you do it. It is never about me, never, because it is about where they are.

Tina Hofmann:

But it is also the place you come to, because I can hear when you say it there, then you have to have a snore to think like that Now with our son, who can do well. When you have such a son you can also flip a lot of things out. If I am not in the elevator, then I cannot. Then I simply cannot think what you do there. I say I know I will respond to that. So it's also about investing in. Now I have to learn my way of life and get to know myself so I get a balance and a peace, because it's not something to just say well. Then I start thinking about it because it's so easy and now I work into it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, exactly Because it's just a understanding. It's something to start being curious about yourself and say how do I react? How can I feel? We talk about having an elevator in you. We can be in the cold. We have that as a real shit. Our imagination is really bad. We can't see anyone's solutions. Everything seems to be difficult when we are there, if we give a little slack in our thoughts and it will automatically come to us. If we don't stick to it, we will just sit still and look at the elevator and then we will get more excited. That's what we are most creative about when we are in the upper stages. So we can fully see solutions to any problem we can solve. We can clear everything. We have a lot of worries, even if our youth is being carried away or our minds are being created, whatever it is.

Tina Hofmann:

So we are just very optimistic and very creative Can do everything we can call it hyper mode here with our brains, and the brains are just extreme with the bucket top. There is the course. It's enough to be new today what's happening when I'm here?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

that's what you mean by going to the gym yourself Exactly, and the more you look at and recognize where I am, the more you can feel that I know that I am, or at least in the moment I am, down in the elevator and that becomes a consciousness for you. Where am I actually? When you know you are down there, you also know that you are not going to set a new project. Maybe that's where you are going to get into and talk to the kids about that.

Tina Hofmann:

Now they are also going to talk to each other.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

So you can better navigate, so it becomes so much easier to be human, because you will be able to do something at some point in time where it is easier to do it than and you have to feel it when you are down there in the basement. Now it is, I'm going to have the conversation. It's so tight at 11 in the evening, when you are completely tired, that you say to your husband we will have to talk about blah, blah, blah, even though it's the worst thing you've ever heard about.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, and it's obviously because we are so impulse-controlled, as some people say, a little bit.

Louise Mejborn:

I would just say that it's a bit difficult to judge. You can think, now it is, there is something here in the back of your head that says blah, blah, blah, but it hears the word it says now and then it stops.

Tina Hofmann:

It's serious when you think about it. But I can also think about that.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It's not like that at all. When this first decision was made, it was very wise.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, and at the same time, you will be so enormous a press so you don't stop thinking, and I think that's why I need people to think there is no quick fix. It's not just thinking, it's just thinking. It's just thinking quickly. There is nothing, that is just fast. When you have to dive down yourself, you also have to give yourself space to say a thousand times in the podcast that I have sat here in this summer house for two and a half months and just been completely stupid. I had to be alone, I had to feel myself, I had to find out what is happening in my mind and it's just to invest in it. And I think there are many who don't know how to do it. What should I do? What did you do yourself that you?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Well, it's what you say to invest time in it, to have an interest in it. What is it really like as a person and how does it work? So you don't want to listen to podcasts or read books or watch videos. And when I stood on this understanding, I contacted some of them who worked with me and said, hey, can't you get some conversations with them? It wasn't because I was, so.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Some people think that if you have to go to a psychologist or a coach or a therapist or something, you have to have a big issue to work with. And I didn't have that. But we just wanted to know more about it. So we just talked about my life from this understanding and it started to set a lot of things in perspective and it started to show something different and it makes the dialysis system react differently. So before I had that annoying reaction because this one said oh, that's important, you should react to that or you shouldn't find it there or Then there was a lot more calm because I had received a response to all the things that didn't go into my thoughts.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

So I didn't listen to it that much, I didn't believe it that much anymore. So that's why there was a break, and it's not more than a split second. But you could just get to it and ask yourself this question hey, are you sure you're going to react to this? And it's a bit of a lie. And then you could just wait and say no, I'm actually not, I'm just waiting for a moment.

Tina Hofmann:

Have you ever talked about at home, can your husband, can he feel a difference between what you're feeling or how he reacted to it? That you suddenly felt more calm, that you could feel it in the back?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

and what happened there. I don't think that there's anything that someone could feel that it just happened, because it's something that happens gradually. The more I got this understanding, the more fun it was for me, and then it also hurts for those who are together, so the more fun it was for them too. So there is in reality, just a very funny, very interesting thing.

Tina Hofmann:

Oh, I could have lived with that.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

But I think it's not like. There's always a way to keep calm. You know Axler and Jule, my children. They can also find ways to write and write. It can be all children. It can be the other way around when we get angry or upset, but because I know how it works, I don't have time to provoke it as I might have been before.

Louise Mejborn:

Do you talk to children about if they're upset about it with a little indirect and tell them about the understanding or how.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I talk a lot to them about it, not while they're upset, because it's a really bad time. I try to learn something, so I try to be quiet and listen and give them a hug or whatever they need, but I talk a lot to them about the fact that they're all calm and help them to see it. So they get angry because it doesn't help when I say that they have to see it. How old are your?

Louise Mejborn:

children.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Nine or ten, but I've talked to them about it since they were two, so I can't say that.

Louise Mejborn:

You get some calm children.

Tina Hofmann:

You also have calm children. We get a lot of complaints on Instagram and we can hear that a lot of what's happening again is that you have children who are completely out of the spectrum in their experiences. We also have where there's a lot of chaotic, and then we have them where there's pressure but no one says anything. There's just a little silence. We're in and you know. You tell how it's been when your father had a stroke. Something I've found out about it is that when all this is happening, we start. I think it's our children's problem or our elders' problem. I can see it well now it's me. So when you say this, it's clear, it hurts and you get more calm. There's also calm children, and that's why it's important to have it in yourself, and it's also generally a society that has been affected by the symptom treatment. So it's not medicine but the school that has been affected by it. It's the children who should be focused on it all the time, where, in reality, it's about the parents, who should have this help and this understanding of themselves.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, I really think it's the best place to put it, because children always try to get it in order. They don't want to get it in. We really don't want to do that. But if we get a understanding of how we work, so we get more calm. I automatically know that, because if you react and you're the one who reacts against you, then it becomes big and violent.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

But if you react and the other one is in peace, then it's a little bit out of the one who has been so-and-so. You can't get along with one who's not back. That can't be done. But if the other one is back, then I can also be back. When you look at it like that, it's been a struggle. But if we as parents can be calm while our children are moving out and that's what it does and it's natural but if they can feel that we can be with it and they can also feel that we accept them even though they're moving out, and that doesn't change the way we love them or the way we see them as they are, then it gives them a sense of security and creates more peace.

Tina Hofmann:

It's so important. You say that it was something that Peter got to know about me and how she gathered it with a sub-woofer. If you need a picture, I think about it every time. I have a lot of trouble with the management when it comes to being sad, but I'm more than happy to be in today and it's exactly the picture she also mentioned, If you're just in peace it's really important to keep going, but it's hard.

Tina Hofmann:

It's not something you just go in and do. But again, what's new to you? What's going on? I really get to sit on my hands and bend my knee on my tongue and say something. I think it can really help a lot. I can see what's going on in us when I try to hold my mouth and be shy.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, and also be careful with yourself in the reality, because we're going to get up and respond to our children's needs, it doesn't really matter, it doesn't matter. So let yourself be in the head when you're going to do something wrong, because then you're just more likely to get stronger than it is now. But help yourself by saying okay, now you fall again, let's see what you're doing.

Tina Hofmann:

When you're a coach, are there all kinds of people who come, or do you have a monster of people who come?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

No, it can be all. There's something wrong in one way. Is it hard to do something? Is it anxiety, depression, is it just hard to be in life with a job, or is it hard to be a family?

Tina Hofmann:

Are there things that you just do when they come in and just run? Then you just need a bank to pay for the whole system? Are there things you say to them they should start with and do, or is there a certain thing you can? Is there a certain statement you give them to them to calm down, or what do you do?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

First and foremost, I try to keep myself in peace and with the parents' world. I'm happy to be with them today, so if I'm involved in their stories, it can be sometimes a bit too late, because people have some really superstitious stories about whether it's their boss or their husband or whatever. It's completely unfair and it's never good and if you're being asked about their stories you can't help yourself. But when it comes to the stories they tell, some people also come up with superstitious stories about their children, about the parents who have been really ignorant about their parents, or what it is now. But when it comes to the stories they tell right now, it doesn't happen through their thoughts all the time, so I don't have to be caught by it, so I can be in peace with them regardless of what they're coming up with, and that helps a lot with falling into peace. When you start falling into peace, you can start hearing something, and I really like to have people listening to the heart instead of being intellected, and that's difficult because we really want to understand it all. That's what we're used to in our society. Everything needs to be understood with our heads. But trying to help people with listening to the back of the intellect, and that's what makes it easier to talk calmly with them and help them to understand how they themselves have seen it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

When you say you have it very difficult, is there a point in your life that you don't feel so difficult? Do you ever get up in the morning and there's just a little bit of rest? No, you say that right, but then they might come up with something else. When I go on a trip to the beach with her, I can actually feel it. Where does it come from? Is there something you can't find anywhere? No, maybe it's just because it's lying there for a day. So when you turn your back and get off the beach, you're doing it again.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

You also have to remember that now you're coming home and you have to go to sleep, Then we forget that peace is there really already, Because then we think that it's the talk that comes into our mind. But when they start to look at the God, the peace that I would like to have, the one I would like to find, the one I live after, the one. I'm so sad about is there actually. I just see it in some tiny little glimpses, Because then I'll catch it again.

Tina Hofmann:

So there are also some where they can feel that they would like to have that peace, but how? But that you don't have much peace. It's a little bit like that. I can hear that if you just have a little bit of your summer clothes, then you could come here, to get some peace, but it doesn't have to be there.

Tina Hofmann:

There's also peace in the head. It could be the same with many of them, but I think that at the start they don't know how to find that peace and be in what's happening down there on the beach and they have the balance there. I don't know what my question is, but I think it's just a statement that it's chaos that makes you think.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, but that's completely right, because then you can experience that when the peace is out in the summer house or the customers go to the house and say they have to move out of there.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, but it's a little bit. But I can't do that because my family lives at home and I have to be with them. That's why I've just been given a gift. But where we can start to get an eye on the peace is also in the present day. Maybe you've forgotten, but it's actually clean. But as soon as we've gotten an eye on the peace, it gives us hope, because I thought that it wasn't just the summer house or maybe somewhere else. It can also be someone who just well, I never experience peace. When you're so curious about what you experience, you just have a small, less bad feeling than you have. That can almost all be true. I might have gone to the bathroom or something. You're standing under the bridge all day. I've never been to the bathroom.

Tina Hofmann:

I mean I'm going to cry.

Louise Mejborn:

You were talking about your next question. What if you say I have peace in the bathroom or down on the beach? What do we do from here? Do?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

we go down on the beach in an hour.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

No, because you get an eye on the peace in the present day, then you can start to get an eye on that when I'm at home, where it's all running. So now I've gotten an eye on the peace actually. Can I maybe also get an eye on this? Where are you at home? Well, when I'm just going out to cook and cook, I might as well get some sleep. Or when the young people just put me in a cup of tea or a glass of water or whatever, I'm on in the sofa, then there's also a split second of peace. And the more we get an eye on the small eye-like moments of peace, the more they start to get spread, because that's what we get an eye on. It grows in our lives, right. So if we start looking after it, it gets bigger and suddenly we get a manly look in the present day where there's peace. So it's only these five seconds down on the beach.

Louise Mejborn:

Yes, because you have to think about it. It's only down on the beach, but then you go to the door where there's more.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, since we've talked about it over a few times, can you also get people to try to put a feeling to it?

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, they have a whole time to do it, but they just don't have a feeling for it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It's just that. So when I start to get into it, if they hadn't been there, people wouldn't be able to pay for it, but people can always do that. I've never talked to people who say there's never peace. It's good that they say it first, but when we start to get into it, they find it.

Tina Hofmann:

But it's also because it's so important to talk to people and it doesn't always have to be.

Tina Hofmann:

It's not just everyone who has the right to go to therapy or to a coach. There are some who really are pressed Sometimes. It just has to be understood because there are a lot of positive things in one's everyday life and of course we've also talked about it, about the differences we've taken. Sometimes I've also had the tendency to be a little happy-go-lucky and then you've been able to put it down negatively when you could have taken the dialogue about it. It just wasn't there. It wasn't there or you wouldn't be able to be mean, wouldn't you? You can have a tendency to dive deeper into the darkness when the children are tired, when you have to meet at school and just say the words Just the network meeting, you're just about to die because you're just so dry and dry. But I really think that having the light-signal for me is a lot. I get very happy when I think about the light-signal. I get a picture in my head what makes me happy, because it's not the whole day that I'm negative and I have someone I really write to who is really pressed.

Tina Hofmann:

A young girl who lives far away from here and she doesn't really have anyone and talking to her is really pressed. She has a data that goes to special schools and just started in zero and she is very challenged. She is out of school with a PhD and hasn't gotten much help. She just has a cheap hand and she doesn't have anyone to talk to. She hasn't worked, so she is on a transfer income and her husband is paying a lot of money, so they don't have money to go to therapy and the only thing she has to be able to read is to understand her. She uses me as a diary and I talked to her today about the fact that I actually used her as an example, and I also have a conversation with Heidi and I think she has a lot of use for a positive country and her hate for it. And it's hard when you don't know her, you don't meet her and you only know how to get back together.

Tina Hofmann:

Can you say something else? I don't know what I want to tell you. I think there are really many people out there who are in this situation, like the mother here who is bitterly saying. She ends up writing 10 days more. I don't have more to give up and I really try to be the good mother who tries to be calm, but when she has said 15 times now you have to eat your food because we have to go out of there, she runs in the air and stands up and writes as if she had another psychopath.

Tina Hofmann:

I almost said it sounds scary, but that's what I do too. I can burn all over a country where you think what's up? It's stupid. You know it's stupid. Why are you doing this? But you're ashamed to be afraid of yourself. When you have heard such a story, I don't know how I want to. I think it's just a misunderstanding. What is it that people are actually standing with you that doesn't have a chance to go down to you and get the help? Can we get to a point where you can start this? Well?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, but I really think that you can do a lot yourself, by yourself and by yourself. In this understanding, I'm not an expert on how her life is, so the reality is that she is the one who should find out what can work for me, and if she tries to listen to some of the videos that I have made or some others have made, what is your?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

YouTube channel called you are what you seek, and you can also go into 3pidk, where we have a meeting in Denmark where we try to spread this understanding, which is about the world's free materials from them. They actually have a mentor order where, if you sign up, it costs 300 crowns per month. You can come to talk to one. It's not necessarily a run-of-the-mill, but it's, among other things, me and many others who just know this understanding, and then you can talk to people about what do we see in this and why it helps us and how it might be helpful for you. So the most important thing for her is when she starts to notice what she is calling and that she can say 15 times eat a little of your food. That should be really good. That's not all I can say.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I can at least run into the air after that.

Tina Hofmann:

And then you have been to write two books where I also think that it is. I am just sitting with one of them where there are 16 stories from people who have, who share, the same understanding of the three principles. I also think that there is something more to recognize yourself there is one your story.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, there are a lot of these books there are some sound books as well, so if you don't have time or a chance to sit and read your physical book, they are on the e-mail, so you can just download the e-mail app and then you can download them for free on the library. There is life. Life always has it, as they think. I have been to write. A psychologist named Medellisa Holland has also written a book called the Self-Defense, which has almost been the book of all readers in Denmark about this understanding, and it also has the book of the Priya, which is the book of the book, and of course we should put it in the description or in the book of the book of the book yes, so there are a lot of free resources as well which you can reach out to and what she reaches out to you.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

we have already seen that she has something in her which guides her and helps her to get on with it, but we will also see that we have this inner guide.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, you don't think. Now I know that you are one child, so there has also been some things you have gone through yourself and you don't need to be one child because we are also three siblings at home, where there are eight of us, lue, where you can also feel kind of alone and have this feeling, which you think is the only thing in the world that is jumping in the air after 15 times, where you have said this. Sometimes it can also be said highly and then it can also be a bit of a mess to try to find the humor in it. And, as you say, if you just practice to say it 15 times in a peaceful way, it can be very difficult, but it is actually a mega big deal and it is actually mega smooth to comfort yourself from it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I really think it is important to be kind to yourself.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

We are so hard-working ourselves. We hit ourselves all the time that we are not good enough, that we do not really think that other people are expecting something else than what we can do. We are all the time over ourselves. So we also look at it in the right way. We have to eat the right things. We have to serve to make the right emotions. There are so many demands. We are still up for ourselves and in the eyes of women yes, it is extremely for women, but in reality, try to be kind to yourself and look at it. Hey, there are actually many things I do really well, so there are also things I do bad, but then it is for all people. There are no people who can do it right. But the problem is also that we are looking at ourselves with the lens when we are looking at Instagram or other places and saying, hey, she can do it all.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes on that picture.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It was a split second of her life. What were all the other hours that was on that day? I don't know if it was so nice and new, but it was all the time.

Louise Mejborn:

It was not enough. It is also important that when we share something on Instagram, it is a lot of them. I walk 10 kilometers and then we wait and then we do what we want. It looks like he just looks so narrowed out and be also sometimes. But that is also why we also made this podcast, because we also said those things. We also say that on Instagram, but of course, we get deeper with things here. But that is when you sit and look at it because you think, god, I live in Scotland. I go 10 kilometers, I live in Scotland. I start waiting for the bad. I live in Scotland. I start to look at the small ones in the morning and you forget to say what can I feel right now, instead of the society as the others? I think that is very important when we sit and look at it on Instagram.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, and we also think that when we have small children, we are almost always going to know all these things, but when we have small children, we may not have to know anything else.

Louise Mejborn:

And you forget to say, on the other hand, she may not have the same job like a man or yes, there can be thousands of things.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

You have found her. Yes, I have found her and we just came to talk about that. It is fun that you also have to look at her, that we are happy. Before the year, since it was a very small wave, everyone who visited us was very calm about how this woman could be so happy, because it was a small wave where normally people were going around and being all over the place when there were guests and it was really just very fun, because it has not been all possible pieces and everything that Valper does, of course it is, but it is very fun.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

And it is just to say this that when I invest time to find out how I work and find my peace, which is behind me and it is at home together, it helps the rest of the family. Sometimes we can feel that I do not have time for that or advice. I can not take time to talk to someone or to read something that is only for me, or, yes, because it actually helps all of them. When you are around, when you get calm, then you throw them away.

Tina Hofmann:

It is not only about the woman, because you have also known her.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, will it be?

Tina Hofmann:

enough. It is also fun. Are they not sure about it, or are they not? No?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

There is no doubt about it.

Tina Hofmann:

I am just going to start with 3 points. So I want to say, now that you say it with animals, we have got a cat. We have two cats, who you will hear now in a break, so I have not completely heard about it, and you have actually told us what it would be like to get a cat. The first time you had a cat, when you were three years old.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I had a cat before we had children, so we had a cat many years ago.

Tina Hofmann:

It really does something good. It is a thing that happens here. I do not remember seeing it when it was killing us. I really wanted to have it.

Tina Hofmann:

But Peter hates animals. I think animals are the most annoying. They smell, they eat and the cat just he. He has really been calm that we have got these two cats here and then he tells me the other day that it is just one of the best things we have done.

Tina Hofmann:

I actually got these two cats and that is because I can feel that he is in peace and Tristan has actually been in peace. He is so tired of the cat. He just does all kinds of things that we did not think he would do. But that is because he can feel me and Peter in peace with the cat and we actually think it is a really good idea that we have got them here and that we are in balance with it. I must say that when you tell this how you, how I am, she is, and that it does not hurt, it is clear that it also goes down to the children and it is not because they are making a huge effort to buy a dog and cat, because of course you have time to have the courage to have it, and it costs a little bit of animal training that we have found out?

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, so it goes up, but when it is said it is really, it is probably because Carol is lying there like half dead and it is lying there when you are so calm, I know, but it is also about the sick because I am also a little bit of a pig.

Louise Mejborn:

I also fail to tell a strange thing. So is it also possible that this way it can be possible.

Tina Hofmann:

And then I am very hyperactive hyperactive up and running. Therefore my children are also a little hyperactive up and running, and our cat can also go a little bit of a mock sometimes. God, it is hanging together.

Louise Mejborn:

It does it. Do you know what?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

we move in here, it is also important to say that it is not to get a cat or a dog or any other animal that does it, that when it gets so calm, the calm is already there, it is just behind, but we forget to listen to it because we are so tired of listening to our thoughts and we think that it is a radio that only sends truth. I mean, I should hear it all. It is important, and I should follow it to the point of breaking the fact that it is coming, but then we get stressed because we can not do anything that comes. I do not know how many hundred thousand thoughts have been there. There is no one else who can follow me.

Tina Hofmann:

One last question. It is a little bit like that when do the thoughts start to run? What do I do? I observe thoughts. What do I do there?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

You start to get an eye on what's happening to them if you don't do anything to them. You start to get an eye on what's happening. You disappear. There's never been a thought hanging in your head.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I can just imagine that our scene is a little like the blue sky. The life force to take these three principles can be the sun, the eternal energy that we are always here. It's just the power that we do in humans. And then our thoughts are the shadows or the world. Sometimes it rains. Sometimes it's white, dark shadows that pass over. Other times it lights up the tower. It's also inside our personal world, inside our head. Sometimes it's still and calm thoughts that pass over. Other times it's the wildest storm that's running in the air.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

But, just as we know with the sky, that's what we've found out. We know that we can't do anything about it. A little child can sit down and pray that it rains because it wants to go out and lay down, but we know that as a adult, we can't do anything about it. It's not good to be in a band over there and say, oh, that's also a 30-year-old thing. I thought I'd like it to be so, but we know that we can't do anything about it. We don't get so tired of doing anything about it, but we don't understand that with our thoughts.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I think that it's me who should suffer and get control over all those thoughts. So I think that I should listen to them, that I should categorize them, that I should try to win them over so they can be negative and positive. Try all kinds of techniques to get control over all the alarms in your head, but in reality it's more when we try to control it. So if we just want to try to get an eye on something, if I don't do anything, it's just standing there.

Tina Hofmann:

My brain can run around a lot in whether I should go to a network meeting or whether there have been any challenges with the school or something. You still want to say that because I know I think there are some who want to think. Well, it's them who want to say because you don't have children in the nursery, many of the people who are sitting here with you have children in the nursery or they are just in the month and it's really hard to get something to do with it. So they probably want to think what do?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

you do there, if you, for example, go to a network meeting, because before you can't know what's going to happen before you are there. But that's what our intellect is doing well. So we have played the game in the head seven times before we sit there. Is it okay? Yes, I sit here and cry a little, but it's not completely unhelpful. And when we first start to get an eye on the real help that we actually do, then it can be the next time we go to the network meeting instead of playing the game seven times, when we have to play ten times before we get stopped and say, hey, I actually need to do that.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

We also come a long way to try to solve problems with our thoughts. But our thoughts are a little like a computer. There is what has stopped in the previous line. If we have to solve a problem, we have to finish something new, and that's one of the things we haven't talked about so much. But we have an inner guide system. It's really what our life is like, or what makes us human. There is something inside us that guides us and that helps us to get up with solutions, but they come to us when we least wait, when we don't sit and try to dig them up from the heart.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

I don't know if you've experienced that, but I experience it. If I go on a tour or take a bath or do something else, where I don't speculate about it and suddenly there is an idea in my head how can I solve it in that way? Or if I just ask her, then it can be that something is happening and even though I had sat and dug it up in a long time, I didn't have any thoughts about it, because I dug up what was already in the previous line. So there is something new to it. And those new, fresh thoughts. There can't be room for them if I feel my head up with what I'm doing and what I'm doing and blah, blah, blah. But when I get a little bit of peace on it and it comes to me that we don't need to do anything about it, it comes to me when we go on a tour or take a bath or what it is that will work for you, and suddenly it suddenly goes up hey, I could try this.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, so it goes with the idea because it's also the one that can be difficult to feel really go with the idea and stand on it yourself and that you feel, yes, exactly.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Because we all have this intuitive power in us that helps us guide us. But again, we will keep hearing it because then we might hear if it would be good to do that and then think again what other things?

Louise Mejborn:

can you not do, or that I?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

don't have time for, or the area to, or blah, blah blah and what it is now right or no? It's better to keep to what I know, what it is, and not do anything new.

Tina Hofmann:

Yes, and I think it's actually the same. When you sit in these meetings, what do we socialize and think about it, and how, all the time? What other things do you have in yourself? How do you want to have it best? And can you be in it and the thoughts run? Can you be in it all the time? Do you know what? I actually know I'm a mega good mother. I actually have done everything I can for my child. I actually have been, I actually have tried to do whatever they want, what they want, what they want to do around, things they want to say, and then I'm in peace with it, because then it comes naturally, I think, the thoughts they don't just fire at the place with everything possible, because your mother, she has told you try this meeting, it must go well. It will go as it is now because you can't change it, regardless of what, and it fits so fine with what you said at the start.

Tina Hofmann:

But we sit with each of our opinions how it went and it's important that you sit as the one who has, as it is the individual who has these thoughts, who sits and listens to what we say now. Well, are you there with a good understanding in the body and you really know you have done what you could, and with just a yes?

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

then it should go well.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes, I'm thinking, look at this when we as parents sit and talk to the schools or who it is now about our children, then it is despite everything also that the children know the children best and know our everyday best.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

For a year since the one school closed and our children should start a new school, we had met with the school because our daughter in the whole zero class had a knack to go to school. She was coming up but it was with wild protests and what ever morning. It had been really difficult for her in school and we thought how the whole world should go when we go from zero where you have a well-known teacher in all the hours and then suddenly I have many different and it becomes a new school and the classes. It will also go completely wrong. So we had a meeting before the school where there had been a PPR psychologist to observe her and the psychologist says together that they thought she was afraid and my husband I can say we were completely shocked because she had no way of being afraid. She just went to school.

Tina Hofmann:

She was not able to go to school.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

She was a completely idiotic idea and she had to express that there were different adults, that the children were lazy and that there was a lot of anger and so on. She had nothing to do with what you normally would understand. But if you don't stand on it and if you are light and stiff, then you will be completely lost, thinking oh God, my child, I'm afraid I'll be gone with it. So it's so important to listen to what it says inside me. Then it could be that there are some experts who say it like that. If it doesn't feel right inside, then listen to it, because we know something inside yourself that experts cannot notice.

Tina Hofmann:

And I think it's so important to stop, because there are a lot of people who are being thought of by authority and thinking about it. But if the PPR psychologist sees it, then it's like that. Or if we get a response that it could also be that you were afraid, but the PPR psychologist had said it wasn't. Yes, it could have been a good idea For us. It was a good idea that there was nothing, but I know where it is it could have been the feeling of the mind that it was there.

Tina Hofmann:

And I think it's really important to stop with it and listen to what your mind tells you, be so self-confident that you think they know best, always the best, because you know your child and you know yourself. Exactly.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

Yes.

Louise Mejborn:

I really just want that. When you go to bed and the doctor says you're afraid, you're depressed, you're a pale, what's good that there are just several of you.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

If this is the case, that would be nice, that would be really nice.

Louise Mejborn:

Because then you get the response to a psychologist and then you sit there for ten hours and you might not get it that much out of it, but this you get it.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

It's like I thought that the scientist would go to a traditional psychologist and then go to wait. It's a psychologist or a coach or a therapist who works out for this, and then you sit there. When you go to a psychologist, you're afraid that you're in trouble. When I talk to people, I don't look at their problems. I would like to talk to them about their problems if they'd like to. That's just it. But I look at them all the time.

Sanne Schroll Lønborg:

After their health, I look after what it is that it should be inside them and help them to get it. And the more we get it, the more we get it that we actually want to get it back, because we're all the things that we're going after. The more it gets, the more it gets the problems that are now there. And we have all the problems in our lives. Some have many, others some have big, some are small, but there are no people who go through life without all the things. But the more we know that there is what we have used for ever, the more we can relax today. No, I really think it's not good.

Louise Mejborn:

I think so too. No, it's not good, I really hope that I, who are sitting there are.

Tina Hofmann:

I've just got a little. I'm sitting there and listening to you that you've really got what we've really been good at and I, I'm Tom, I'm Tom for over.

Tina Hofmann:

I'm Tom for over. I really think that it's been really good. Yes, it's been a pleasure to be with you. Thank you for inviting me, welcome. And then we just want to once again give you the opportunity to go in and share our podcast with all of you who you think that you should listen to, and you go in and subscribe to the podcast so you get a message every time we come out.

Tina Hofmann:

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