13th & Park
"13th & Park" hosts insightful conversations with special guests covering a broad range of topics from politics and government, to technology, culture, economics and the media. Listeners eavesdrop on what feel like private conversations featuring the savviest and most highly regarded minds in the country. The show, co-hosted by media veterans Adam Goodman and Justin Sayfie, is produced by Ballard Partners in the Ballard Studios in Washington DC.
13th & Park
Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin on Loyalty, Leadership & the Fight for America’s Future
U.S. Senator Markwayne Mullin joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the forces shaping America’s future — from energy dominance and AI-driven power needs to tribal sovereignty, economic pressure on working families, and the personal story that forged his approach to public service.
A Cherokee Nation citizen, rancher, and lifelong entrepreneur, Mullin discusses why Congress must recruit leaders with real-world experience, how permitting reform is holding back U.S. energy capacity, and why America’s ability to compete in the next era of data, defense, and AI depends on unleashing domestic production.
He also reflects on the deeply personal moment when President Trump intervened to help his critically injured son, a story that illustrates a side of Trump rarely seen publicly — and one that shaped Mullin’s understanding of loyalty, leadership, and service.
From housing costs, inflation perception, and the economic mood, to the future of energy, Native American sovereignty, and the senator’s own journey from overcoming childhood challenges to running a national-scale business, this episode offers a candid look at a leader shaped by adversity and grounded by family.
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