Viv chats with Chris Ratcliffe, a man ahead of his time. With Elain Connell Chris created Pennine Pens, published Jill Liddington's book on Anne Lister which informed the TV series Gentleman Jack, started possibly the world's first literary online forum on Sylvia Plath and created Hebweb an early community news website, which is still providing the opportunity for open discussion and debate three decades on.