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Talk Music Podcast with Will Dorsey Jr – Guest Greg Crane - Episode 0018 (S02E11)

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Join us this month for episode 18 of TalkMusicPodcast with Will Dorsey Jr, your favorite monthly podcast for musicians and music fans. Will Dorsey Jr is the Grammy Award winning drummer of Body Count and your host. This month, Will interviews Greg Crane, the Artist Relations Manager for Yamaha Drums USA, who has 300 plus endorsers for Yamaha, which keeps him more than busy enough. However, Greg is also a very talented drummer and plays drums for a Los Angeles Kiss tribute band called Dressed to Kill. Greg is also working on some other projects and will be drumming for an REM tribute band, a Johnny Cash tribute band and a lastly a new Tesla tribute band. 

You don't want to miss this episode! Greg and Will reunite as old friends from their days at Guitar Center as well as from the industry as both of their careers have flourished in the music business. Watch this episode as Will and Greg have an amazing time catching up and learn some new things about each other. Greg has been the Artist Relations manager at Yamaha Drums USA since 2012 after having been the Regional Division Manager for Drums for Guitar Center in Southern California. 

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SPEAKER_02

Hey, what's up everyone? This is Will Dorsey Jr. of Talk Music Podcast with Will Dorsey Jr. My next guest, my friend Greg Crane. Good dude, great drummer. He plays in a tribute band called Dress to Kill. Gets all into makeup and everything. He just kills it with uh with Dress to Kill. And he's also an artist relations manager for Yamaha for the U.S. Want you guys to get into this story. Everybody, welcome.

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SPEAKER_02

What's up, man? How are you doing, man?

SPEAKER_03

I feel like I I saw you very recently. Yeah, good morning. Good morning. What's going on?

SPEAKER_02

Not too much, man. Um, I'm gonna do a big old introduction uh for you. Um, I want people to know who you are and whatnot. And um, we are actually drinking the same stuff, you know. I don't know if we can advertise it or not, but I don't know. Don't know. But um, this is my friend. This is Greg Crane. He's the artist relations of Yamaha, and he also plays in this very, very cool uh Kiss tribute band called Dress the Kill. Um yeah, uh man, I just can't wait to see you guys, you know, eventually. So welcome to the show, Greg. Thank you for coming on the show, man.

SPEAKER_03

Jumping around and you know, and makeup and high heels, you know, it's like a regular Monday night, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, man. Hey, thanks for coming on the show, dude. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Yeah, I appreciate it. You're welcome, man. It's good to see you. Man, good to see you. Um, dude, where where'd you grow up, man?

SPEAKER_03

I grew up in uh northwestern Illinois, yeah. Really, really tiny, small town called Hillsdale, kind of outside of the um the quad cities, like on the uh Illinois-Iowa border.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, like really, really small, about 800 people.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

When when'd you move to California?

SPEAKER_03

87, 1987. We literally like I I came home one day, my um him open school one day, and my dad said, you know, hey, we're gonna move. And I said, move, you know, where are we gonna where are we gonna move to? He's like, Well, we're gonna move to Los Angeles. I'm like, what? Yeah, because my my uncle, my uncle had started a uh a painting business, right? So he had moved out first, and then he called my dad and he's like, hey, you know, you should come out and and uh you know, we'll kind of start this this business together. He said, Yeah, okay. So we literally loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly. Really? You know, yeah, it was you know, and and to go from you know, such a small town and and you know, cornfields and and stuff like that, you know, it was it was kind of a shock, but my my dad made me a deal. He said, Look, if you if you go along with program, which I had no choice to go along with program, but he goes, you know, if you go along the program and and you get you know settled and get some friends and get school going and stuff like that, I'll get you a drum set. So that was that was the deal. So I was like, Yeah, cool, I'm in. Because I just played my brother's kit. I just played my brother's kit in the basement forever, you know, kind of a mishmash, yeah, yeah, kind of drum set. And so I think I got like a like a toma swing star or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. But uh anyway, yeah, I was uh moved out when I was 15.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, okay. Now when you moved out out to to LA, were you surprised that they didn't have basements in basements and uh yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, it was you know the first time the first time having like you know Thanksgiving dinner with shorts on, you know, it was like whoa, this is crazy, or like Christmas and it's you know beautiful and you know 75 degrees outside. I was like, this is nuts. I love it. I was I was totally all in that.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. Yeah it it is it it is it quite different, you know, being out here compared to you know everywhere else, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

So I'm gonna move out here from Becky.

SPEAKER_02

Um yeah, I'm from the East Coast, I'm from Maryland. Um yeah, born and raised there, and then I just decided to you know take a dive at coming to LA and and try to see what I could do out here. So yeah, and I moved out to to Studio City. So nice. Yeah, so um, but I wanted to ask, you know, like um, do you remember when when we first met? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was the old guitar center days, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. Those are awesome, man. Those are those are really good years, you know, back then, you know, like you know, I just I just loved working there, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I was just surprised at you know how you know like how much more like business was out in California compared to everywhere else. Not that I'm I'm fashioned, you know, like everywhere else, but it just seemed like it was meaningful uh out in California and people were doing their thing. And I don't know, it was just different, you know, out out here compared to being on the on the east coast.

SPEAKER_03

Like the music scene, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Like like there was stuff to do. I need to get this done. I need to get I I have to get this done, you know. So yeah, that's that's how it felt like to me. Um, but yeah, like Guitar Center, man. Um we're gonna be talking about them a lot, if you don't mind, you know. So oh sure.

SPEAKER_03

Sure, man. It you know, back then when I first started, it was like '92. Yeah, and it was a it was a whole different vibe. Like, like it was, you know, we I think we had 17 stores when I started. And uh, and it was just, you know, every store was like its own little, you know, uh its own little world. Like, and it, I'm sure still it is now, but you know, it was kind of these independent little places, you know, that they had rivalries between the stores, and yeah, you know, you never knew what was gonna, you know, you could have a Saturday morning and the store manager's like, you know what, man, let's get a barbecue and let's uh let's have a barbecue outside. And all the time you'd be like, uh, hey, ain't no any bands that want to come out and play in a parking lot today? Like it was just like random things that that they did that was so cool. And and uh I don't know if they they still do that now, but you know, it was just kind of a different time, but yeah, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Uh right. I I remember you know they were they were doing stuff like that, you know, like just getting different bands to you know just to be outside of the you know out of the guitar center, you know, so we could still conduct business in inside, you know what I mean? So you know, but it was like a whole big event, you know, working at Guitar Center back then, you know.

SPEAKER_03

It was high profile, man. It was like like if you were like a GC, if you were a salesperson and then you would be walking around somewhere and be like, hey guitar center, covina man, what's up? You know, and it always and it always ended like no matter what the conversation was. It was like, oh yeah, man, I saw you in there. I'm like, hey dude, can you give me a deal on uh some sticks or so like the same request? Yeah. But I loved I love going there, you know, I love going to work every day because that's where my friends were.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, that's where we were all in this in this world, like to where, you know, it was, you know, that's that's where all your friends were that you spent the most time with, and people hung out afterwards together, you know, and you just come in and and there was you know relationships started and you know fights and uh you know birthday parties and weddings and like everything you just shared this world of you know 23-year-old numbskulls, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Do you do you mind telling people where you used to uh work at which which which uh location?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. I was in Covina and then I went to Sherman Oaks. Oh, and then I worked in Hollywood. Okay, and then towards the end of my my time there, I was uh what was called an RDM, like a regional division manager. So I would go to the the different drum shops in the stores and not really do sales training but do like um merchandising and talk about merchandising and talk about uh product training, yeah, things like that. And I did Arizona, California, Nevada.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, oh really, yeah. Oh damn, I didn't know you did all that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was it was that was pretty fun, you know, just to you know to see people grow and you know, see the salespeople, you know, really get um, you know, uh get what you're talking about and and grow and make more money and stuff like that, you know what I mean? It just really was pretty satisfying, you know, to be able to be there for those folks.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Did you did you end up meeting any like famous people coming through any of the shops that you were at?

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, oh yeah, all the time. Well, especially like in um in like Sherman Oaks in our Sherman Oaks store because it was a little off the path, you know what I mean? It wasn't Hollywood, it wasn't it's like it that was the place where people would come in and they would be, you know, multi, multi-millionaires, but be wearing flip-flops and shorts, and you know what I mean. They could just they could just kind of do what they uh I think the one the one guy that I was kind of a little starstruck or whatever was Gary Oldman came in one time. Oh, oh okay, yeah, and he would just kind of walk around. Andy Garcia used to come in um a lot and Eddie Van Halen. We'd see Eddie Van Halen a lot. Wow, because it was like it was like I said, it was a little bit more of a of a chill vibe to where they knew they weren't gonna get, you know, they could just come in and look for a mic or you know, sticks or drum heads and then yeah, you know, skate out of there. But Gary Oldman was cool, he was really nice, and and uh I was just like, whoa, it's Gary Oldman.

SPEAKER_02

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he was really cool.

SPEAKER_02

I I I loved I loved that shop, and you know, like um at the Sherman Oak store because that that's where I worked at too. Umstairs when the drums were upstairs, upstairs, yeah. Upstairs, and unfortunately, they they remodeled it and not upstairs anymore. It's a shame, but I mean that's I mean it just seemed like it was just our world of just this drums up there for me, you know, like that's what I I loved about it, you know, like because it was just like any anybody that came through there. I I mean, like I seen like Dave Grohl come through there, yeah. I of course I seen Paul Stanley, you know, come through there. Um, you know, Sinbad would come through there. Yeah, you know, it was it was kind of weird, you know, like you know, like what Sinbad's in here, and um it didn't, you know, I I would see like uh Karma Electra come through there. Um but it was this it was this uh you know a time where you know it it was this cool people just rolling through and they felt no I I think they felt more comfortable at that store, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, they knew they could kind of you know blend in, do what they needed to do, and it wasn't gonna be crazy with like you know nothing as tours, but you know, like a lot of tours, tours would go by the the other stores and and you know, people kind of looking for the celebrities and and and shrimp oak because it was a little bit more casual to where they could do what they need to do.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Was was Hollywood like that too?

SPEAKER_03

Or Hollywood was a little bit uh I mean, yeah, I mean they definitely had a lot of high profile people coming in there, but it was a because it was a flagship store, still is, yeah. Um, you know, there would you get tourists and things like that that you know they just want to see it, you know. They've caught heard of, you know, I think that was before like online, but you know, they'd heard about it forever, and uh they just want to walk in and see the the the giant gongs and the yeah you know the crazy guitars and stuff like that. But I I loved working there too. It was it was a really that whole like early 90s to early 2000s, that whole era was really really because you know, especially like mid-90s, because music was changing, and yeah, you know, I remember somebody coming in, like, yeah, there's this new band, Stone Temple Pilots are gonna be really cool. And I was like, Oh, really? That's kind of a weird name. You know, like, oh, okay. You know, it was just that time, you know, we're all these uh music was changing and and things were getting super exciting, and people were getting into playing playing music, you know, more people were getting into playing drums and playing guitar because of you know, because of nirvana and pearl jam and sound card and all that good stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So after working at Guitar Center, when did you transition into getting over to Yamaha? How did that actually happen?

SPEAKER_03

It was it was really it, you know, I loved, like I said, I I'm super proud of working at GC for so long and and loved it so much and loved the people. It was just at that time I was traveling a little bit. Um, you know, I was traveling a lot, and it kind of is the opposite of what people usually want. You know, I was like, I kind of want a desk, you know, I kind of want a cubicle, you know? That's kind of what I'm going for. Can I find a cubicle? And um, you know, and I wanted to just get involved in other things, you know, just it was it was time. It was time just to kind of switch things up, but stay in the industry, yeah. But just into a different world, you know, see the other side of things.

SPEAKER_02

Man, so did you go right into like a product specialist like right away when you went to to Yamaha or no?

SPEAKER_03

I actually um I started working with um with Guitar Center. I started working with Guitar Center. Um, there was we had a national account manager at the time, and I was his assistant. So, and there's a train going by, and um everybody enjoyed the train. So, yeah, that's what I did. I just actually worked with guitar center. Oh so that was kind of weird at first, right? But then it it quickly, you know, it got to be cool and it was fine, you know.

SPEAKER_05

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03

It was always fine, but it was just you know, kind of weird for me to see the same people, you know, like oh, but I'm on a different side of things. So I did that for a while and then um moved into um along that time, they were looking for somebody to do warranty work okay to handle warranty replacements, and um the the amazing his name is Dave Seyke, and he was actually back in in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he had been there forever, and he was the guy that had drawers and drawers of everything, like every little wing nut and every little hook and post, and he knew everything, and artists love him and consumers loved him, and he was just amazing. So he um was gonna be leaving, and he's like, Well, you know, you should being a drummer, you should you should check this out. So I went in and and started working with him and and started kind of learning more like nuts and bolts things, right? And which was was really cool, and that's how I sort of uh had a relationship, started a relationship with some of our artists that way because I would get, you know, hey, can you send whatever, you know, this chain, pedal chain, and it needs to be in in Miami tomorrow, you know. A lot of that would come up, and and I dug it, I really did. Like I dug that challenge, and I still do, you know. I like that challenge where it's like, okay, how can I pull this off? You know, this has to get there, and how can I do it? You know, because there's no room for error, right? So I I dug those little things when they when they popped up. So anyway, that and then that's and that was that was for a little bit, and then moved into being a product specialist for drums and our marketing team with our marketing team the Dave Jewel and Jim Haler. You might you know you know Jim Haler, yes, just retired, yeah. You know, he's out in Missouri now, and uh um and then yeah, and then artist relations came in in 2012. Wow. Okay, so that's your role now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That started in in 2012.

SPEAKER_02

2012. So how you digging it now? How you like being like you're the guy now for the US?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of folks on the team. I just you know, I'm just drums, you know. I mean, I just they just that's uh you know, that's uh stay stay in my lane, man. Drums is that but no, it's it's great. I mean, it's um there's always something, you know, there's always something going on, and I still get the satisfaction of being around drummers and drumming and people who are excited, you know, obviously our artists, and you know, we have artists from every you know, walk of life, you know, and every you know, uh educators and um uh you know, obviously studio musicians and pop and rock and metal, and you know, so it's cool because I get to like have a little education myself in jazz or or in you know studio, you know, learn about that sort of stuff. So that's pretty exciting.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Wow. So like how many like like roughly this is a b I know that's a huge number, but like how many people are you uh endorsed about 300 in the US?

SPEAKER_03

Because I just do the United States, so uh in fact we we have a new uh artist website that's gonna be launching pretty soon. Really? I had to kind of like go through all of it. I think with electronics and um acoustic drums, I think it's around three, a little bit over 300. Man, 300.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and there's I mean, in our department, um, in our artist relations department, I mean, there's um, you know, percussion artists and percussion artists and keyboards artists and guitar artists and winds and strings, and you know, so there's there's department cat, you know, uh categories that have pro I think even more than that. More than me, you know, and they're being um, you know, they're being taken care of by different people on our team.

SPEAKER_02

And man, um, so like after, you know, like you know, like dealing with all all these uh, you know, endorsed drummers, you know, is there like a priority that that you need to take up care of first or like compared to you know anybody that's on your your RASA right now?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's never you know, I mean we take care of everybody everybody the the same. You know, sometimes things do pop. Up that are like this, you know, like before with in being in warranty, you know, this needs to happen today. You know, this needs to happen right now. There's no room for error. And you know, that doesn't pop up luckily as much, but but when it does, it's you know, we we take care of it and we we make sure that the show goes on, you know. The the old the um the saying that we have is you know, we never want to we would never want the show not to go on because of something we didn't do. Right. And I mean you just can't live with that, you know. So we're always jumping on things when they when they need to get uh taken care of immediately. Right.

SPEAKER_02

So do you have any advice like how you know like people well any dr drummers out there that don't want to get over to Yamaha, do you have any advice for them to to do to try to get you know to try to get into to Yamaha?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean uh it could it could you know not necessarily be you know a specific drum brand like like mine, but I mean like anybody that's looking for endorsements through anything, through sticks, heads, symbols, drums, things like that. Just always it's always better or it's it's better for us on our end if somebody comes in and they're like, I already play, you know, this, you know, I play these symbols. I already I use these sticks all the time. I use these heads all the time, and I know them and I love them, and they help me make music. Um that's the the best approach, you know, know the gear that you're talking about, and or that, you know, and and really make sure that whatever you know company you want to endorse because is is the right company for you, you know, is the right, you know, is the right fit. It helps you make the music that you want to make. Because, you know, art uh companies aren't are never looking for they're looking for long term. You know what I mean? You're gonna be part of that family for a long, long time, hopefully. Yeah, so you gotta feel comfortable, you gotta feel like, okay, this is this, I'm where I'm where I'm at, you know. So that's that's my best advice. Just to really find the company that fits and know the gear. Yeah, know what you you know what you're talking about when you when you reach out.

SPEAKER_02

And thank you for explaining that. Um because I mean you are one of our our first, you know, uh, you know, guys from uh a major company like yours uh to be on my show. And uh thank you for explaining that. Um I hope people are listening, you know, like to that what you're saying, because that is definitely true. Um, because even though I'm you know in a band and they people come up to me and ask me, like, how do you get endorsed and how do you get how do you do that? And that's like, man, you know, like, but I love the key thing that you were saying, know the gear. I like that, you know, like you have to know the gear, um, especially with your, you know, like with your plane or that you're trying to represent, or you know, that's that's the whole big thing, you know, for it, you know. So you can't just like, oh, I think I want to go over to here, you know, like you can't just just do that, not like not like that if you're not a you know, a fan of uh have the passion for right because as an endorser, you're an ambassador for that company, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, you're outperforming. Um, so when somebody asks you, you know, like oh a uh a youngster or an old star or whatever, you know, comes up to you after the show and they're like, man, that you know, right, your ride is amazing. Like, why I just want to I want to get one of those. Well, like, where can I get it? What is it? And they're like, Oh, it's um yeah, I forget what it is, you know, what what model is it or whatever. You know, it knowing the gear that you play and being passionate about it because you're gonna go out and and talk to the public about it, and and that's and that's amazing. You know, we we um it's always important to to to note that like I'm just speaking on our roster with our drummers, but yeah, like we have like other companies do, you know, some of the biggest drummers in the world, you know, and and you know, the most iconic drummers in the world and household names and people you know that aren't even drummers know them, you know. But we never want to forget, or I never want to forget that that's what they do for a job. Yeah, that's their job. Yeah, you know, it's like that's how they that's how they pay the bills, man. It's like, you know, yes, iconic rock and roll hall of fame, you know, on TV, you know, videos online, everything like super famous, can't walk down the street. But if you break it down very basically, that's what they do for a job. So my job is to help them, you know, to make sure that they can go out and do that session or do the you know, and make sure that they have the right tools they need so they can do their job. Yeah, you know. Um it sound corny, but yeah, it's it's you know, we we gotta gotta do what we can to uh to make sure they're out and they're keeping everybody happy with beautiful music, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, that's that's sick, man. Um I saw you um which which I I thought was awesome, you know, like you get to work with Tommy Aldridge. Um and I saw you do it, like it was uh someone did a like a video of it, and I saw you. I'm like, there's Greg, you know, hoping on Tommy Aldridge, you know, during during uh a clinic, man.

SPEAKER_03

You know, that I mean, how's how's it how's that, you know, working with like a person like especially like Tommy Aldridge because man, that I mean Tommy, for example, man, I just um I try not to fanboy out with him, man, but I just he's so iconic and so nice and so humble. Oh man. And literally, like when we do drum clinics, there's people that are you know, they come up and they haven't signed their uh you know, uh their albums and they're almost in tears because they're signing his you know the Randy Rhodes tribute record, or they're you know signing Speak of the Devil or all that, and he just so nice. And I look at him, yeah, look at the folks they talking to, and they're just like, oh my god, it's Tommy Haldridge, like, hey, let me see it. Okay, what you got here? You know, and he's so likable, right, and just a monster. I mean, behind the drum. We did the the coinics you're talking about. We did him, I think, last year, I think it was in August in in Florida. Oh, okay. And uh, and we had you know, we did them at some guitar centers in in Florida, right? And so we had a lot of time. It was myself and our marketing manager, uh, Matt Ruden and Tommy. So we had a lot of time, you know, driving from because I guess we didn't own a map or something, and we decided we can make it from the top of the state to the bottom of the state in an hour and a half. Oh so we were driving and and we're just talking and and listening to stuff, and uh, and we saw this place called Gatorland, like one of those, like those, you know, where you go and you feed the alligators in the middle of Florida. Yeah, so we me and Matt were like, Hey, Tommy, you want to go to Gatorland? He's like, sure, let's go. Really? But we had a blast walking through and feeding alligators and you know, crocodiles and all that stuff. It was like one of those roadside attractions, you know. But we just had a blast. So just being with him and and him being so iconic, but he's also super humble and just really like there's no like, yeah, no, I don't want to, I need to, you know, I don't want to go to Gatorland. He's like, Yeah, no, let's go to Gatorland. Oh, yeah, and he stays busy. I mean, he's he rides every day, rides 15 miles a day on his bike. Uh, and uh, you know, that's why he stays in, you know, still has the best hair in rock and roll. Yeah, yeah, he does. He's just awesome, dude.

SPEAKER_02

So do you you also I I know you got a whole mess of great drummers out. That's all your Rosa, like Shannon Larkin. Um, yeah, Shannon's great, which is uh a Maryland, you know, uh uh he's just a Maryland icon over in Maryland, you know, like you know. Oh yeah, yeah. So I you know, Shannon is you know awesome, and you have Dave Weckle and Steve Gadd and Carter Burford, and I mean man, is it's just not sickening, it's just awesome how many guys you you guys have, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

So, dude, it's and and so many of those have been with us for I mean Tommy Aldridge has been with us god over I think 45 years, and Dave has been with us over 40 years. Weckle. Uh Gad, we're coming up on 50 with having Steve on the roster. And um you know, that's that's something we're we're you know, globe. I mean, globally, we're we're super proud of, you know, that yeah, these iconic um you know players have have stayed with us, you know, and they you know, just like I said, it's it's what you know, it's the instruments that help them make their sound, you know. Yeah, and it would be different if it was something different, you know, it wouldn't sound the same, it wouldn't sound like them in my opinion. But I mean it would because they're playing it, but but there is that sound of those recording customs with pinstripes, you know, you know exactly when you hear it, you know exactly who's playing it. Um so yeah, so yeah, super proud.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think 50 ways would would would sound you know, like come on, man. You know there's no yamaha's man, you know. Oh yeah, you can hear it, especially in in in Carter's playing as well, man. You can smoke hear his eight, the eight-inch time. There's nothing that else that sounds like like that, especially when he he does goes through his roles and whatnot, you know, like come on, man. That's a Yamaha, you know.

SPEAKER_03

So how can you not, whenever you have a kid that has an eight-inch tom, how can you not just like do that like that? You just have to, and every song ends up having that. I mean, you're playing uh you could be playing, you know, happy birthday, but you're still gonna do some tom roll because you got an eight-inch time on it, cranked up, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, dude, that's so so awesome, man. Um but can you uh so I'm seeing something new uh with with you guys, uh, which are like some of your your products uh with the the EAD module. Um yeah. How can you explain that at all? You know, like about that with that module now, because now it's not just the the EAD thing on on the kick drum. Now you have a module with it. What can you explain that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. EAD50 we just launched this last January. And if you're familiar with EAD 10, um we took all the the you know comments and thoughts and feedback from you know consumers and dealers and artists and things like that, saying, like, if you do another one, here's what you should, you know, here's what you should make, you know, here's what you should add on to this. So you know, we had a lot of people that were saying, well, you should be able to plug in um your own microphones if you want to. And we're like, yeah, that's a good idea. You know, that's what I love too, because we we listen and those ideas end up, you know, getting put in the in the motion. So it's like it's like then when I saw it, I'm like, wow, okay, cool. This we can plug my it's like it's a digital mixer, it's um it's uh digital recorder. It it's for the deep dive, you know, to have in the studio. If you if you want to go super deep into recording, um uh and and uh and mixing EAD50 is the total way to go. I'm still learning about it myself, immediately. Yeah, uh, I need I'm gonna dig into it and and really get my hands on one and and start and start playing with it. But uh it was you know, Simon Edguse at the NAM show was was demoing it, and people were just like around the the little demo booth all the time with the headphones and they were coming out like this is unbelievable, right?

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, wow, man. I'm I'm I'm impressed with the with the other one. Um I'm just like man, this is this is great, you know, like because any any videos I see, of course, of you know, like Eloy Casagrande, um man, he's just the drums just sound great, and that thing just picks up everything. And I'm I'm still in shock about it. Um the way it's just everything's just sounds, it sounds great, man. You really don't need that much to to have that thing work.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh, I tell I I like to tell folks that like the cool thing about like E80 10, you know, the the original, right? Was like it, yeah, there's nothing worse than buying something, especially like any kind of electronics or tech thing or whatever, and then you get it, and you have this idea in your head, like what do you want it to do? And it's supposed to do that, but it doesn't do that unless you get this and this, you have to add on this, then you have to download this and whatever, and it just ends up being kind of a bummer. But the cool thing with E810 is that it's you it's it's ready to go, like in five minutes or whatever, you know, like you you know, the microphone right on the kick drum, plug it, you know, into the module, dial up what you want, and you're ready to go. And it does cool stuff like right off the bat, you know, whether it's for live or for recording or just even in your house, you know, putting on your headphones and and you know, just listening to, you know, you know, playing along, you know, playing along with your favorite records or something like that. And and it's it's really, really cool. We were super proud of that when it when it came out. We knew, you know, just and I I say that not because we, you know, we I work here, but like we all play our own stuff, you know, we're like all of our marketing folks and and myself and you know, the sales folks, like we all play our own gear, we get excited when something cool comes out because we're like, yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, so when we got a chance to play it, we're like, all right, this is gonna be this is this is something completely different, and uh so you should try one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, plug it, plug it.

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SPEAKER_02

Let's get into about your whole kiss thing.

SPEAKER_03

Ah, and there's my dog. He's so excited.

SPEAKER_02

All right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, about the kiss thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let's like, man, dress the kill. Um, when I when I first noticed, you know, like you actually playing with it, because right now I can't see you without the makeup on right now. All right. You know, like I'm drawing it myself. Like, you know, that how long does that that take to to put on about an hour and a half makeup?

SPEAKER_03

Really? Yeah, I think I, you know, the old the old uh kiss joke or whatever they used to say, the actual guys would be like, you know, I guess we could do it in a half an hour if the plane is late. Right. But yeah, I could probably do it maybe in a half an hour if I had to, but it's just it's just best when you can just kind of relax and do it and and not have to you know rush or whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But uh, yeah, it's fun to do. I mean, that's that's my favorite part, probably of the of the show is is doing that because it just just gets you in a good mood and you're like kind of getting ready and you see everything, you know. Unless you mess up, then you gotta take it off and redo it. And that sucks. But oh I reverse. No, I haven't I haven't totally messed it up, but there's been times like, yeah, it doesn't really look. I'm gonna, you know, you take some part of it off and gotta redo it. But uh, but it is, it's super fun, man, because you you get to, you know, you get to pretend. Yeah, you get to pretend for an hour and a half, you know.

SPEAKER_02

So so when you're when you're preparing at do do you have like it you you have to have a drum tech, right? For those shows or no?

SPEAKER_03

Uh my my kit?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for your kid. Do you have a drum tech? Do you have a drum tech for that your kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I well, Mariano, you know Mariano started, yeah. Yeah. So Mariana comes out and helps me. Um the thing is, like, when when I take my glasses off, I can't see anything. So it's like I'm walking around, like so to have to, if I would have one being in makeup and setting up your stuff is kind of a bummer. It kind of kills the the vibe because everybody's like, oh, didn't I just see you taking your symbols? I've had to do it, but yeah, see you taking your symbols out of the bag, you know. Um, but Mariana helps me because like I said, I wouldn't be able to see, you know, to to to move stuff around. So he'll come out set up and does awesome. And I've known him. Well, you've known Mariana forever, too. Yep, I have.

SPEAKER_02

I should. I I need to get him on on here, you know. So that that'd be another great interview to do, you know.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, king of the king of TikTok himself, right? The far post on TikTok. The far post.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man. How did how did uh dress the kill uh form?

SPEAKER_03

Um they they were already together for a little bit. Um, and then not, I mean, just not for very long at all. They just did a couple shows, and then I actually saw an ad on Craigslist. If you can imagine, I don't even know Craigslist is still around. But I was just looking for a band, and uh I saw like Kiss Tree band. I'm like, oh, this is it. Right. You know, so I called our bass player, uh Rich, and I'm like, hey, you know, um, you know, just calling about the ad you had. He's like, well, I'm at work, man, so you know, call me a little later and we can talk about it. I go, what time do you got off work? It's like, I'm just like, like, what time do you get off work? Okay, I'm gonna call you at at 5 01 because we gotta make this happen. So I was super excited. Then we got together out in uh rancho and uh and and played, and it was it was really cool. I remember they go, uh, Rich asked me, like, you know, whatever you do on edition, they give you the song list, you know. Songs to learn. He goes, Well, well, how many songs do you know off the list? I go, All of them. Really? I go, Yeah, we can we can do all of them. Yeah, let's let's just go. And not and not saying that because I'm so cool, it's just that I was so into it, and I'd known the the the tunes for you know since I was a kid. So I was like, Yeah, I actually get to play with with human beings, you know, and and do this, yeah. And and then that was it, man. We got together and um just started to do shows, and and it's always remained the band is pretty much from then has been Rich and Johnny and me, and then we've had a few different guitar players. I don't know what it is with guitar players, but I don't know what it is, man. Yeah. Everybody's got a guitar player story or a bass player story. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's pretty much been us, and and uh we're you know, keep keep plugging along, you know, doing the shows.

SPEAKER_02

Can I can I ask why were you told that you had you had to uh put on Peter Chris's makeup, or could you bend Eric Carr?

SPEAKER_03

No, well I think that the the era of the tunes that we do are more Peter, you know, or are 90 95% Peter stuff. So yeah, I thought about doing Eric once for like Halloween or something, or just do it different, but there might be people in the audience who who you know might not recognize it because you know they they see Kiss and they know a few of the songs and they're excited, and they you know, we're doing a show with a bunch of different bands, right? And then we come out, they instantly would recognize the Cat Man makeup, but might not recognize the fire. I mean, yeah, they just they might not know what is that one again, and and I probably wouldn't do the makeup very good anyway. So mess it up. But most of the tunes we do are are the Peter Arrow stuff anymore.

SPEAKER_02

So from what range from like the first album of Kiss until like Kiss dynasty or uh unmasked?

SPEAKER_03

Unmasked would be the last one. Well, Peter wasn't on Unmaster Dynasty, but um Yamaha artist Anton Figg was.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yes, yes, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. There it is. Anton Fig. There it is.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway, yeah, well, I think we do up to like dynasty. I don't think we do anything of unmasked. We want to do like is that you right and uh Shandy, but we'll you know we'll see.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. That's that's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's fun, man. It is. And I was saying you gotta come out and play some tunes. I would be honored.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta honored to play some of those tunes, man. Because I was just listening do you guys do uh watching you?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you do, yeah. It's kind of a long song, so we'll do it like if we have a lot of time. You know, if there's like a you know, if we're doing a show where it's like we can do like two hours or or an hour and a half, we'll we'll do that one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Dude, how how long? Oh right, okay. How long is normally like your your guys said?

SPEAKER_03

We can do like the the 40 minutes, or we can do, I think uh kind of top out at like two hours. Because you know, after so long, either we're getting tired or the audience is getting tired. Oh, right, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like you know, Beatles reunite after two hours, you're like, oh man, I'm gonna get out of here.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Like, we're old, man. We got we're old, I gotta go sleep. Right. Oh, you notice as you get older, like everything revolves around parking. That's what it is for me. Yeah, really? Parking. Like, do they have good parking? Yeah, really. You know, it's like, like, oh, this is great, man. We're gonna go to so and so, we're gonna go see so and so. It's the biggest show of the year. Great. How's parking? Is it easy? Do you gotta park in a garage? Like the everything. Oh, right. Oh you gotta go in the garage, you gotta park in the street. I don't know, right?

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, the question, uh, of course, about the the whole kids thing. I and I got so many more uh questions about you know, like you being actually Peter Chris. Um, when you put on a makeup, does it feel like do you feel restricted on your face? Like, like, do you have to be careful like drinking stuff or like or yeah, oh yeah, I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I it yeah, you have to kind of like pour like a bottle of water, you kind of have to kind of pour it away from your mouth because then you'll get lipstick or or uh or microphone sometimes, like from singing and I'll rub my face and it smears, you can smear and stuff. But you know, I used to dig those pictures of Gene, especially like where he was like all drippy and make us kind of smear, and he's got bloods. Like after the show, it just looks kind of cool, you know. It's like he did like he did something, but you do gotta be a little bit more careful. Oh or you'll scratch your you know, scratch your nose, or yeah. You gotta scratch your nose and make up all over your hand, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man. Um I know you're you're you're a huge kids fan, and you you shared some some pictures with me. Do do you mind if I showed some of those pictures on episode? Because man, this dude, you, you got the hugest, you know, for for me, and and and I need to stop by over your over your place of like, and I'm super jealous, man. Uh how much kiss stuff did you actually have? Um, got a lot.

SPEAKER_03

I got a lot, but the thing is though, like there's you know, John Five has probably the biggest KISS collection aside from Gene Simmons, um, you know, John uh Mala Crew and so and and uh his collection is just out of control. My friend Chris Arbanitas, who's in uh Rancho, has probably number two. Um just you know, cases full of stuff, and he's super obsessive. God bless him. But you know, and uh, you know, no, I got a lot of stuff. And then I just like to I like the the satisfaction of like looking for something and you know finding ways to you know ways to get it or ways to um you know trade for it or hey, I know a guy who knows somebody else that has some tour books that his brother left him when he went to the army or whatever, and I'm like, oh cool, can I check him out? You know, it's you know, it's just those little areas, and I'm sure everybody that that collects anything, yeah, you know, does the same thing, whether it's baseball cards or you know, marbles or whatever. But um yeah, and and the problem is, especially with kiss stuff, is everything or a lot of things were in fours. Right. You know, there's a there's a gene pen, there's a Paul pen, there's a Peter pen, you know, there's an ace pen. You're like, okay, so if you get one of them, you're like, oh, this is great. I got the Ace Pen. And you're like, oh man, now I'm set up. I gotta find I gotta find three more of these. And you'll just obsess over it and obsess over it until you find a kid. Wow. Buttons and yeah, all that, all that stuff. But yeah, I like all the toys. I I don't really do um posters or or vinyl or anything like that. I know those folks that that's exactly what they collect. I just like the toys and the the stickers and the buttons and the viewmasters and the books and the clothes and the dude. You got Viewmasters. Yeah, yeah. I got I just got the um uh uh uh the um show uh show uh show beam. It was um it was like a you would you would take a cartridge and you could shoot it on your wall and it would have it was like a look like a lightsaber, like the bottom of a lightsaber, and you put the the cartridge in, and you could when you were a kid, you could click through it and it would push it would put pictures on your wall of like you know, it could be anything, it'd be you know, yogi bear or whatever. They had a lot of them, but then there was a kiss one. Right. So uh the um I got that not too long ago, so that's pretty fun. I haven't used it yet because I can't find the actual. If anybody's watching this and you have one of those, right? Contact will need one. It was like a plastic, yeah. It was um, yeah, like a plastic, it looked like the bottom of a lifesaver.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, dude, that's that's sick, man. What what was the other thing that you that you showed me? It was that pinball machine.

SPEAKER_03

You what was yeah, I'm sure I got a pinball machine and not a kiss pinball machine. That's the that's the big one. That's yeah, I want to get one of those. Yeah, no, I just I kind of inherited this pinball machine and then um got it to the house, and then like anything, you know, like we talk about like old cars or whatever, like I'm just discovering, you know, something didn't work, and then or something was broke, and then I don't know anything about these old, it's a 1977. So everything is switches, like there's no, it's all mechanical. So I actually found a guy in Santa Ana that that came up and and was like showing me how to do do the you know, change these and do that. And so anyway, now it's up and running. It's it's doing it's doing good now, but I gotta I gotta find some I gotta find some other little pieces and parts, and you can get, you know, though those old parts aren't expensive or whatever. They just gotta find it, you know. Then you get it, and it's the wrong size or whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, oh man, man, thanks for even just explaining some of your memorabilia. Uh yeah, you know, like man, because man, I've really I need to stop buying your place, man. You gotta come over, you know. So dude, um just switch things up again. Uh, is there anything that you would like to ask me uh at all?

SPEAKER_03

What is that other award next to your Grammy?

SPEAKER_05

Oh that's funny you would ask. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So is it just Darth Vader or is it a thing?

SPEAKER_02

Oh it's just Darth Vader, you know, so yeah. I like Darth Vader, you know. Like, I don't know, anything that's you know, like I just love his uh you know, his character, you know, because he was just so evil. When I was a kid, I was like, man, this guy's evil and he scares me, you know, so kind of like like like like like G Simmons did. Oh yeah, man. Like because even even on the Kiss movie, you know, I was I was scared of him, you know, like yeah, I was a kid, you know, like I wasn't inspecting, you know, like some of the things, you know. But now going back to to watching the movie of you know, Kiss Meet uh what Kiss Meet the Phantom or whatever.

SPEAKER_03

So goofy, it's so cool. I love it, it's so corny.

SPEAKER_02

It is very corny.

SPEAKER_03

Whenever Gene would roll his eyes, still to this day, whenever he rolled his eyes back in his head, oh god, it would just freak me out, and I loved it. Oh man, you can sing his tongue out and roll his eyes back in his head, yeah. Find pictures like that or whatever, it just freaked me out. And even as a kid, I would just like I'm super scared, and that's really freaky, but god, I love it. This is right, you know, and I can't do that. I wish I could roll my eyes back, man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, like like that, yeah. Like, I don't know how he how he does. Oh man, that's just too much, you know.

SPEAKER_03

So but I do love the the star, yeah, and and next to the Grammy, so it's just far enough off camera to where you could pile a bunch of them back there, and everybody would be like, Wow, look at all your awards! Oh and they don't know it's just like Star Wars characters, like right, yeah. This is Star Wars character. Where did you get that one award that looks just like Boba Fett? You're like, oh uh special European uh video um uh uh award. Can't really get into it, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um when you first got your Grammy, were you just like just surprised? Like, is it is it heavy?

SPEAKER_02

Um fairly heavy, right? It it got some weight to it. Um it's it's actually, you know, like I I wasn't expecting the yeah, like like you're you're saying, uh the weight of it.

SPEAKER_03

It it's yeah, because you knew you're like I won this and it has substance and it's big and that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Uh dude, thank you, man. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, that's so killer. Um but uh man, I you know what I forgot to ask ask you. Um of your other projects that you've been doing, um, besides doing the Chris uh tribute band of dress the kill. What what else you you've been getting into?

SPEAKER_03

There's a few different people I play with because you know everybody in like that the the tribute scene in in in LA or Southern California, like a lot of people like play with each other. It's like it's very like oh well this this guitar player also plays with this guy and that band and whatever. So a lot of people kind of switch off and and play with different people. So there's a there's one band that we have. Um and it seems and my brother-in-law, my brother-in-law is a guitar player, and it seems every band I play with I drag him into. So he actually plays my and my cousin Sean plays in an REM tribute that we just uh got up and running called Moon Men. Oh that we're super happy with, super happy with. Unless this airs after May, and I'm like, that was great. That show is amazing. Our first show that we did was so it was pulled out. It was sold out. So I don't know when it's gonna air, but when it yeah, um, and then uh there's a Johnny Cash tribut tribute uh that I play with my friend Jason Marshall, and um that's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's you know, it's very uh train beady, yeah. You know what I mean? It's like I gotta kind of switch it up every now and then because the the the a lot of the beats are exactly or close to the same. Yeah, so you gotta kind of like alter it a little just a little bit to where you're not back there going like, oh man, you know, I gotta do you know play the same thing again. So I'll kind of switch it up and and so that's a lot of fun. So I know Jason forever. And um, so then that and uh we're actually coming up in a few weeks. We're gonna do a show with the Ramona Bowl. Okay, um in Hemet with it's dress to kill, obviously with no makeup, but there's another um another guitar or a singer from a band called the Moon Colony, and we put together a Tesla show. Oh, you kids remember that Tesla, yeah, yeah. You can hear you can hear everybody just googling Tesla right now. Right, like anybody out under 45, right? Is that a car? Is that the car tribute band? No, um you can hear him googling it, but yeah, that's pretty cool. And that was one of those bands, like I forgot like how many hits, like how many hits that band had. Yeah, and then so uh, you know, we'll see how you know after this show coming up, you know, we'll see what happens with it. But uh, but yeah, it's uh that's pretty cool. And just keep, you know, who knows? We did a spinal tap show not too long ago. Oh, we put together it, yeah, yeah. Like the same, you know, like I was saying, a lot of everybody plays with everybody else. So we just I talked to a few people, I'm like, you want to do a spinal tap gig? Yeah, so we did, and that was that was crazy because uh that stuff's really complicated, yeah. As for a drummer, yeah, I believe it. Yeah, you know, everybody thinks it's like you know, big bottom, big bottom, you know. And it is, and it's fun, it's funny, but like there's drum parts on there that are like Stonehenge, you know, you're right, you're charting it out, and you're like, how come I'm charting out Stonehenge?

SPEAKER_02

Right. Kier's question for you. Um, and uh going back to you, REM uh Faye. Do you guys do the song uh Superman? Yeah, do you? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

In fact, I just like that. Um we want to add a couple songs and in Superman and Crossroad Eyeliner came up, and okay, and we want to pick something from like way, way early, just as like to have that one that's kind of off the beaten path, you know, like a really early REM song. I don't know which one we're gonna do, but uh there's my dog, I think. Oh no, uh that's my wife, actually. Not my dog. Um, anyway, so yeah, yeah, we'll see. It's gonna be cool, dude.

SPEAKER_02

That's awesome, man. Well, Greg, dude, thank you for so much for your time. I know you're busy, and and I'm I'm grateful that you got to do uh this is a good thing. Awesome to see you, man.

SPEAKER_03

I'm so happy for you. I mean, all these years we've known each other, man. I'm so proud of you, man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, thank you so much, man. I I just I just can't believe, you know, like you know, like we get to this plateau, you know, like you know, we still respect each other, even though I'm I'm not with Yamaha, you know. So but I I remember, you know, like there was one time, you know, it's like so when you want to play some real drums, it'll say we well that was always that's always kind of fun, you know.

SPEAKER_03

We just joke around and I'm like I'm like uh you know, hey, uh come over and you know play some stuff, you know. Yeah, and but that like I said, when you know each other as long as we have, you know, we each gotta kind of keep it fun and light. And and you're doing you're doing so great, man. I'm so happy. Thank you so much, man. Everybody, great crane, everybody. Thanks, everybody. And you gotta get a hold of Mariano too. Oh, yeah, Mariano. That'd be great. Oh man, I gotta get it. He he has old school guitar center stories that are like really good. Like okay, he was in the Hollywood store for for a long, long time. So he's got some funny ones from really funny.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, that's sick. Tell Tom Mariano also what's up? I will. Yeah, dude. Thank you again, Greg. Appreciate it. Thanks, man. Take it easy, man. Bye, everybody. Bye. Hey, did you know that we have a website, Talk Music Podcast with Will Dorsey Jr.? Um, we got all kinds of stuff on there, man. Uh, check it out. Got some cool swag on there, like like a sweatshirt or a hoodie or a coffee mug. Check out the gear. Hope you like it, and support Talk Music Podcast with Will Dorsey Jr.

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