First Look Gnomes: The Archives – First Time Parenting, Newborn Survival & The First Day After Birth

From the archives of First Look Gnomes…

This classic episode takes a funny, honest first look at becoming a parent — from the moment you leave the hospital to surviving the very first day after childbirth.

We talk openly (and hilariously) about what first-time parents are not prepared for: exhaustion, emotional overload, newborn logistics, and the sudden realisation that someone has let you take a baby home. Expect real stories, relatable panic, and practical reflections on how to prepare for life with a newborn.

Perfect listening for new dads, expecting parents, or anyone who wants reassurance that chaos is normal. Whether you’re counting down to birth, navigating those early days, or looking back and laughing, this archive episode captures the reality of early parenthood with warmth and humour.

A must-listen for anyone searching for first day with a newborn, new parent advice, or what to expect after childbirth — with laughs guaranteed.

A midseason vault opens into a candid first look at fatherhood, where sleep deprivation, newborn surprises, and a chaotic first night home collide with humour and perspective. We also fall hard for PSVR2, unpacking why immersion finally makes sense and how to keep it safe around kids.

• newborn realities from muconium to flaky skin
• the surprise of swollen baby testicles and what to expect
• first car ride home stress and partner anxiety
• dog meets baby and household reset
• learning rhythms without a manual and saving energy at 3 a.m.
• humour as a pressure valve with names, emails and dad jokes
• VR immersion explained from plank demos to PSVR2
• motion sickness, presence and why GT7 and Horizon shine
• setting boundaries for kids and VR safety
• finding balance between real life chaos and virtual wonder

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Midseason Vault And Listener Mail

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Whilst the gnomes are busy celebrating birthdays during this midseason break, let's open up the vault and look back at the first look archives. Don't forget to write in to firstlook gnomes at outlook.com. We're in seven. Seven. And that was all second verse.

SPEAKER_02 0:18

Okay, second verse.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

So I'm still laughing about the pre-ject. In your heart. It isn't too hard to see. We're in seven. We're in seven.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Very good. I wasn't expecting that, Wallyams. I certainly I wasn't expecting a second uh a second verse as well after the first verse, but I'm not gonna lie, I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Joining us or joining us for a first look at various nonsense, I suppose.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Not nonsense this week. It's it's almost I'd almost got.

Teasing A First Look At Parenthood

SPEAKER_01 1:02

We'll get to a first look later on, but the first look that I'll be doing is a first look at parenthood. Parenthood. So fancy word for we just had a nice healthy baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

They've had a lovely little baby. For those of the you who are just joining the podcast here on episode seven, uh good chum here, Wallyams, and his lovely wife to be baby's all that you've got now, Wallyams, and his lovely wife to be Georgie have uh just welcomed a lovely baby boy into the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

On that note, so what yeah, one day last week, two gnomes, Frank and Bob. Frank and Bob? Yeah, Frank and Bob, you know Frank and Bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so two gnomes, Frank and Bob, they were they were out fishing at the fish bono funeral. Oh yeah. And a uh a funeral service passed over the bridge on the fishing by. That's sad. And Bob takes off his heck you know takes off his hat and puts it over his heart. Mark of respect. He does this until the funeral service passes by. Frank says, Gee, Bob, I didn't know you had it in you. Bob replied, It's the least I could do. After all, I was married to her for 30 years.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Blonde woman. Oh, uh, and I think it was her and Aston Kutcher, and they wanted to get a divorce. And the judge said, So this was my father-in-law talking about my mother-in-law. He said, You know the judge in that says, you know, I want to burn, I want to grab her and a butt set her on fire every day, but I don't. And he was he was bent, and I was like, You're okay, John. And then today he sent me uh he sent me one of these memes, and it's a man and a woman who are on like a deserted island and the sea of boats, so they're waving the things, and then exot, she's on the boat, and he sat on the island reading a book, quite happy. And I was like, I think I need to take this man for a couple of beers and just make sure he's okay. So yes, good old, good old Bob Lano.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

Subject line. Two words. Subject line. Two words. Two words.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Mastermates. For those that don't get the context of that subject line. Was it the last episode before? I think it could have been the episode before.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

I'm not sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Well, listen, listen to all the episodes and you'll you'll you'll find out what it means. Hello, gentlemen. Hello! Exclamation mark, exclamation, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. I use that term loosely, winky face. Oh, saucy. When I worked at a fern resort with Mr. Williams, I worked at the front desk and remember very clearly one of the guests' name was Willie Handler. Willie Handler. Not William, not Will, not Bill, Willie. Alright, Willie. Let that let that settle in. Love

Gnome Jokes And Name Shenanigans

SPEAKER_01 4:20

the podcast, guys. Exclamation, exclamation, right, exclamation, right, exclamation, right? And again, so so so happy for Master Sprout's arrival.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

I was anxiously awaiting his arrival. Oh, that's a great, that's a great nod to the non-previous content. I think I know who probably sent this email in. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

There should be a package arriving. Thank you very much, Alice.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Yeah, thank you, Alice. Lovely to hear from you. Willie Handler. Someone's called Willie Handler. You just wouldn't know what to say, would you? You'd literally just be there thinking, Mr. Handler? Call me Willie. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Do I have to? I mean, yeah, I don't I mean I could I could call someone Mr. Handler, I could call someone Willy.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

I couldn't call them Willie Handler. You you wonder though as well, like Willie, like it's a funny word to English people. It's such it's a bit like You could turn it to William. You could turn it to William, but you know, like English humour, you know, like Mr. Bean. Like and and you know, go back to the olden days of you know, like Benny Hill and the you know the word Willy. It it it sounds like such a British child playground word.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean at school I used to add the the fun technique. I mean just for my last name, the guy Willy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

Daniel Willie You do realize now I'm I'm only gonna I'm gonna only go only going to address you as Willie M.

SPEAKER_03 5:47

Mr Willy ooms that's brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

You should never have told us that. That is one of those things that we should never ever have known. But now now that you do, we'll we'll only ever refer to you as Willy Mms. But like North American's though. Do you think North Americans well obviously if Alice has been there and was working there and had someone called Willie, it must it must it must cross the sea. But I just imagine Willie just being such a British thing and not at all Americans finding the the name Willy funny.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

But Canadians are kidney pie, well not kidney pie, just steak pie. Nice steak pie with uh Party Kids. Oh, very nice, very nice.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

It's um it's it's funny. So my wife went there for university, so when we started dating, she took me over there, and it was a perfectly fine place, Wall City, so there's a lot of history there. But like we went again last summer, we had some friends over, and we went to because it it's very close to the Republic border. So uh if you go across the border, you there's a place called a moth. And we went with two gay friends in Moff, yes, as in Moff. So we went with with a couple of our friends who were insistent that they wanted to get a picture of Moff or in Moth. Your friend Willie Willie Handler, no, not Willie Handler, no, but wanted to get a picture in Moff. So Frank and Bob. Frank and Bob, yes. Took them to Moff and stayed in Londonderry for the day, Londonderry slash Derry. And we just called it legendary, just have to call it legendary because that we we did a wall tour there, and the guy said, look, it's very contentious,

Emails, Old Colleagues, And Laughs

SPEAKER_00 7:20

depending on what side of the community you're from. So just called it legendary, we just call it legendary, and I thought that's brilliant. What a great, great little way to call it. And it's it's so like obviously the Derry Girls has made such a big impact on there. They've got the lovely mural there to it, but it it's just it's just a great place. We had some great food, great drink, it's it's lovely. So hello to the people of Derry, slash legendary.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

No, that was the second thing I saw. No one tells you, Craig, or parenthood, about swollen balls. Why isn't there a warning about swollen balls? So perfect little baby Logan is born, his balls are swollen. Oh, God love him. Like any shit, bless him, and they are humans. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

I'm not I'm not gonna lie, that's not where I expected you to go with the first look at parenthood, but you know what? I'm glad you did. So yeah, I thought from the start from the first you know, the first couple seconds. But I don't know, it's is that a phenomenon? I I don't know if that's a normal thing or apparently it's quite common. Okay. Apparently it's quite common. When you say swollen, like what are we talking?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

I think, yeah. So apparently, apparently they're they're they're swollen at birth, or maybe particular types of birth, I don't know. But um they were swollen, they were huge. I didn't know it's because they were swollen. Okay. Are you sure he's not just a lad like lad? No, they have shrunk. Okay. They have shrunk um to a normal baby size. Very good. But they were adult size. Well, in my mind, they seemed adult size when they were born. Adults had testicles on a child. So that was a bit of a shock and took it away from the magical moment. But um, yeah, after that first couple of seconds, I did get to focus on his eyes that were, you know, he was wide open and he was yeah, he was very inquisitive about the world. So that was a magical moment. But to be honest, yeah, I was distracted by the swine balls.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

It's it's amazing though, Wells. You think right? This is you you've you've been through you've been awake for 30, 40 hours. 40 hours. The person you love more than anything in the world is in agony and pain and in distress, and you really can't do much about it. And then you've also got a new life come into the world. You really don't know how you're gonna react. This is not something you do every day, it's not something you can really prepare for. So again, you have an art you have in your head an idea of what a baby looks like when they come out, and if it comes out and there's uh adult-sized testicles on a small table.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Why hasn't anyone said just to prepare you when he's out? It's balls will be big, but you know, don't don't worry, they will they will calm down.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

But no. Well, this is no one said that after. Well, thank goodness for first look at gnomes, where we can raise the issue. So we need to get a hashtag going, okay? Yes, yeah. I mean get it out there.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

I mean, there's lots of I mean I mean these days compared to you know 20 years ago, 30 years, 40 years ago, there's so much more information out there and you know you you can prepare yourselves for it, but I was never told about that.

Travel Tales: Derry To Moff

SPEAKER_01 10:31

And this is part of the NHS service, I think.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

It does. Well, thank you for bringing attention to it.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Yeah, and then I've always I've always had yeah, fairly hairy nostrils, crazy. Well, you know, you're a you're a real man, Williams. But within a week, you know that scene in in The Last of Us where those those fungus string things are coming out of coming out of the zombie's mouth. Imagine that coming up my nose. So literally they just started growing out like crazy. Yours, not Logan's, yeah? No, yes, mine. Yes, yeah, something in my dad, so my nostril hairs they just start coming out just reaching out. So yeah, so literally in maternity, I bought a nose trimmer. So that I've had a first look at a nose trimmer. Was this your first time at a nose trimmer?

SPEAKER_00 11:22

Yeah, oh wow, it might be because my my son's older, so I've I've had this phenomenon for a while. Exactly, exactly. I didn't tell you about that, do they? I bet you started when he was born. I didn't make the correlation between having a child and then fuse wire nose hair. Yeah, you get it. That's yeah do you know what it is, but it's the first look for it. You get the you just it's just one random hair that just like appears and it's as thick as a 13-amp fuse wire. And like, where has this come from? It's it is it is bizarre.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Yes, I went from hairy nostrils to their reaching out trying to grab people.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Well, you are a man of a certain age as well, you know.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

I know, but the fact that it happened in the first couple weeks, uh there's definitely something there.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

And like you said, my beard's got a lot of grey. You but you do look you do your beard. The first thing I noticed was I was like, wow, that's a silver beard.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

And uh so yeah, I've put on nose trimmer, my beard's gone a lot more silver than it was, it's gone from salt and pepper to silver. Yeah, so these are all things that happen in your first couple weeks of parenthood. Sorry, fatherhood, let's just be specific.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

There have you enjoyed have you enjoyed the experience? How what's it been, you know, you've got a new baby?

SPEAKER_01 12:35

The first couple weeks I was doing a lot more domestic rodding, which uh which is good, but just you know just constantly on it. Yeah. And probably part of that was just the adjustment and I need to do stuff maybe, but yeah, I was busy.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

There's no there's no easing into it, is there? You just in and then all of a sudden they send you they send you home after like a couple of days.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Yeah, I mean, I I don't know what happened, but they never for some reason we never actually received our instruction manual. Which um I presume you got an instruction manual for Brayden.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

I I would say yes, but I can't remember. I don't think there was I don't think there was anything. They literally

First Look At Fatherhood Begins

SPEAKER_00 13:15

we had a red book, which was the just the I was joking about it. No, I no and and and sorry, yes, I do understand. No, I appreciate that. It's a very, very serious tone. Yeah, I don't think No, no, sorry. I'm I just mean like in general they're just you are pretty much just there you go, go home, and you're like okay, what what do we do now? And you just you just have to kind of I rem I remember what was it like for you putting him in the car and then driving him home for the first time and stuff. What was that like?

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Yeah, so that was a big that was a big moment because that's the first stage of oh, we're looking after this small, fragile, tiny human being. Again, I was late because I won't get into details, but she's gonna stay in for a little bit, but uh not too long, but we left the next the next evening and it was all going fine because he was he was quite sleepy and yeah, little grumbles in the hospital, and then got into the car, the car was fine, but that's the first time that the fiance fiance didn't have didn't have direct eye line contact with the baby, so that's a big step, big step for her, and then me driving, like I mentioned in the previous episode, not that experienced at driving because I did stop for quite a while. Uh so that so I've got a baby in the back. A mother that's suddenly can't see a baby. So then she's panicking, yeah, and then nighttime driving. But yeah, on the way home, and Georgie's the experienced driver, and I'm not as experienced. And then suddenly I'm pretty confident it's not, but she starts shouting, you're head, you're getting towards a roundabout, slow down, slow down, stop, stop, stop. This is not night time in the car's coming up. And I'm like, pretty sure it's not, and then she starts shouting, stop, stop, stop. So I thought slow down, as oh, it's not a time to be so it was all quite a stressful experience getting back. And then we got back, and then it just kicked off. Like we've not heard him cry and everything yet, and then he's crying, he's pooping, she's trying to change the um Logan on the slayer whilst I'm trying to calm Mika down. So this is the first time we've met the dog. He wasn't Sean Georgie, so because he was like, something's wrong here.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Like he was he was obviously worried, like George, you know, slightly damaged. Yes, yeah. I need to stay clear of you. So he was he was he was really good. But he was he stuck to he stuck to my side, he's like something really strange has happened. Yes. What on earth is going on? But he was really good. Yeah, really good at the baby. Just a bit. Who are you?

SPEAKER_00 16:15

What the what's what's this thing that's going to pull my hair?

SPEAKER_01 16:19

But uh yeah,

Newborn Surprises And Hospital Basics

SPEAKER_01 16:20

so the first yeah, first 10-50 minutes, whatever it was, in the house was just it was all kicking off. I don't want to say adjusted, but adjusting. You're finding your groove. And uh yeah, finding our groove and my the definitely in the first sort of couple weeks, my calf muscles, because the fiance, fiance was fairly bare fairly bedridden for the first sort of week. But yeah, so my calf muscles from going up and down the stairs were definitely uh increased. And that was quite a funny moment because obviously, you know, she's gone through you know, she's on agitating those painkillers and been in a lot of pain. Yeah. And so I can't remember what it was now, but I think I like stabbed my tail or something, and I knew straight away I cannot complain. I cannot complain about stabbing my toe because it's you know not even a percentage of what what she's been through. And she just sees me, I'm just like gritting my teeth. She knew I wanted to say something. What's the matter, Daniel? Nothing. Yeah, I just knew I think she asked, yeah, you're right. I was like, I I can't answer that question.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

I really what can I say? You need to sit in a rubber ring. I've stubbed my boo. I've done my boo boo too.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Yeah, it's nice, it's just little things are quite enjoyable. Just um so late lately he's gone from wet farts to like proper man farts already, like proper trumpet lads, what a lad.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

You just sat there sometimes and said how many how many times have you said that's my boy? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

It's like good lads. That's my boy, but like a man. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, just just yeah, typical lads.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Yeah, proud of the sound of his father. It's it's quite something. It is it's quite something because you just you're kind of in the eye of the storm, you don't know what you don't know what day it is, you don't know what's you don't really know what's going on. You you're trying to be, you know, as normal as you can, but it's in a it's an abnormal situation because you've gone from basically a responsibility to just you, Georgia Amica, to you, Georgia Mika, and a child who literally can't do anything without yours and George's help. So, you know, you just I I remember it took a long time for us, and you'll have this too.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

You you're so quite robust because I've always been with babies, uh I still am with other babies, yeah. I I imagine I am, but but they're so fragile. So when I've uh I'm not very good at sort of holding babies. Yes. I still I'm still not, but with Logan now, I've got to the point of just pick them up and throw them around. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

But you you tune in well robust than you think. They they are, and you you're probably are you I'm I'm assuming like when you've gone to sleep, have you been fully asleep? Because you're always you're ears you're just slightly awake, aren't you?

SPEAKER_01 19:26

No, my uh I'm pretty sure my anxiety levels were through the ring.

Coming Home Stress Test

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yeah. Like the other day, Georgie was calling my name, but I for some reason I just didn't hear it because I think I was using the prep machine or or something. Yeah. So then she escalated to basically go dance shouting real loud. But that's that's the only bit I heard, so obviously I go straight into there's an emergency in panic, so my heart's beating a million miles an hour, gone up the steps in like half a second. And I and she says, Yeah, I can't remember what she asked for, but it's something that really scratched my back. Yeah. I'm just like panting away. Yeah, panting away. First eight kit out. Yes. 909 half dialogue. But uh no, yeah, false alarm, but yeah, so that's that's different. Yeah, very much on alert all the time. A little bit less so now than perhaps the first couple weeks, but still very much on alert.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

It's an it's an adjustment, mate. You'll you you will just find your groove and just kind of get into it, but it it's a massive and Williams. How did you did you uh experience the muconium? Because that's one of the things I remember. I remember the afterbirth and the muconium.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Is that the stuff that's still in the lungs, or is that the stuff that's on the no, so that was at the plugged up?

SPEAKER_00 20:54

That's the black poop, the tar poop, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Yes, yeah, black poop went through all the different stages. So we went through a pesto stage. Um the colour's unbelievable, isn't it? They went through a what we called a Uncle Pi K Chinese chicken carry. Oh, very good. Because my Uncle Pi K, he always has a Chinese chicken carry. So I'm referring to that. So um I don't know if it's put him off his Chinese yet, but I haven't told him about it. But uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

The muconium though, the like the black tari stuff. Did you did you have but that I mean but that's fine because that they tell you about. Yeah. What they don't tell you about, it's a swollen ball. That's true. Well well, yes. Swell swollen b hashtag swollen baby balls, it's a real thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

We uh 'cause at the start we were also quite worried because his his skin started looking quite dry and flaky. Yes. Um but yeah, there's loads of information out there. It says, yeah, that's quite normal. Oh yeah, brain like that, like cranal cap and stuff. That initial skin layer, and they're basically growing new skin, that they're basically shedding their skin.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Page 974 on Google. Raise awareness, Williams. Raise awareness to bring the cause forward.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

I mean, to be fair, it's not the most important thing to know about. A little bit, a little bit, a little bit of heads out would have been nice.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

You're an animal. You're an absolute animal. That was very funny. So we were around our friend's house and they had the MetaQuest two. And I actually hadn't played an actual virtual reality machine. I've played them in the arcades and stuff, but not an actual home one. And they put me on this game called Walk the

Dog Meets Baby And First Night Chaos

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Plank, where again, as someone who's not a I think you might have seen that on TV or something. It's it's very cool. So you put the heads, you put the headset on, and you you get you go in an elevator and you go to the top of this building and you have to walk the plank. And it really does muck with your mind. Because even though the graphics are computer graphics, the immersion is like this is real because you look around and there's a helicopter comes over your head and you're like, wow, this is unbelievable. And I was a bit skeptical about VRs. We're like, I don't want to be scared of heights, it's probably a good training technique. It felt real. Like, you know, you you felt like you were there. Your senses, your brain doesn't quite know what to do. Can't quite work it out in it. You can't quite work it out because you can't obviously you know because you're using your eyes and your ears, which is obviously well, this is a big chunk of you. This is something I found as well. It's like playing VR, messes with my ears a little bit because of obviously because of balance and stuff. But we we had to go on this one, and I was like, that's unbelievable. Because I'd always been skeptical about it and thought, I don't know if if I want to invest in VR, because obviously owning playing a video, you see all these games, you're like, oh, it looks pretty good. I'm not sure, I'm not sure. Because until you try it, you don't know how awesome it really is. Part of my language, but that I was literally just like, this is unbelievable. This I can't believe I've not actually played one of these before. So then I came home and I was like, it's my birthday, I want one, it's my birthday, I want one. So PSVR 2 was coming out, so I ordered myself one and it arrived on Wednesday, and I've got myself a few games for it. I got myself GT Gran Teresa My Seven, and I got myself Horizon, Call of the Mountain, and I got myself Resident Evil Village, and what else did I get? Oh, that's what a horror horror game. Yes, horror game. And I got a kayaking one where you go kayaking.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Uh I'm quite yeah, virtual reality games sound good, but not the horror ones.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you my experience of it so far. So when you get it all set up and stuff, the first game I did was the kayaking one. Yeah. And it is so real and immersive. You it looks fake, but it's not fake. It's it's so weird to explain. But because the water's moving, you feel like you're moving. Like I got motion sick. The the first few times I played, I was like, I feel a bit motion sick. I you know, had to get your had to get your VR legs, so to speak. But um after I played it last night for a few hours. Well that's it, yeah. So it's and but it's the the VR2, the PS VR2, the the way it wrapped around your eyes, so there's there's the the field of view is pretty good, so you haven't got too much that you can't see. It feels like you are in the world. You look like a wally because you've got this big faceplate on. But I put Leslie Allen on the kayaking one for the first time, and she was just like she was she was blown over. She was like, This is just mental because we can see what they see on the TV screen, but it's flat. But when you put the helmet on, it's just it's like a different world, like you can

Finding A Groove And New Dad Anxieties

SPEAKER_00 26:00

you feel like you can touch it, like your mind your mind is convinced. So it's the the the depth perception, is that it's just unbelievable. So I'll tell you, I'll tell you the the game I got the call of uh horizon call of the mountain. So you go in and you're kind of on this, you're up high, but in the distance you've got these mountains and all these things, and I just stood there and looked at it because it's not like computer graphics, it's it's like you're actually there, it's just unbelievable, but it's really hard to explain and to because unless you actually put the helmet on and see it and hear it and feel it, it just looks like a video game. But as soon as you put it on, oh it's it's unbelievable, mate.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

I just I was the early ones, there's lots of problems because the basic when you when you turned your head, the images weren't quite keeping up to the same speed as your eyes or neck were meaning. Yes. Whereas now it's a I think it's a lot more well in cheap.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

In geek in Geek Talk, this one there's there's none of that at all. It's 120 Hertz refresh rate for eye, so each every image you get is super smooth because there's so much going on. And obviously, because it's connected to your PlayStation 5, which is a badass powerful system, it just it just works so well. But I have been like blown away by it, and I love it. I am I am yeah, GT7. So it it feels like you're in a car. So you sit in the car, and the car is perfectly rendered, and you can go into like a VR showroom and you can drive, and like it does it messes with your senses, like it you get that feeling when you drive up over a hill, you feel that like woo. When they start adding things like smell and touch, that's where it's gonna be. So now we're 2023. You think where it's come from the likes of playing Super Mario and NES, which was 30 years ago, yeah. I think where they're gonna go now with the processing power they've got, and it's it's just it's class, I love it. Um I'm really excited for where it can go. And we had Brain on it, and he was playing Call of the Mountain. He's not meant to, because he's under 12, but he wanted to have a go on it, and he's there. And we fill I filmed him playing VR and when he was on the kayak one, sorry, he was sitting, he was sitting on the chair. We'd move we moved the chair into the middle of the room, and he's on this kayak one, and he's looking around, he's like, Oh daddy, look at that. Because he's like, What he's looking at is like, oh daddy, look at that bird, and like, oh dad, I can touch this, and he's there, so he's literally sitting on the chair and he's putting his hand over the side to try and touch the water because he's so immersed, you can see he's he's like, Oh, I want to touch the water. He's like, There's a fish, I'm gonna touch the fish, and he's trying to reach out and touch the fish, and you're like, You can't.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

You've got to be careful because the um, I'm sure you've probably seen the the video or or or similar, but they filmed the kids, I think it'll be a little bit older, 10 or something like that, and there was like uh a platform game where you you go around and you have to jump over two blocks and things, and that they're telling him, 'Oh no, you need to jump over that bit.' No, they say no, why don't you do a run-up, run and sort of jump over the thing, uh-huh? But then he actually physically runs and sort of runs into the TV to jumps on the water. Oh wow. Okay. Yes, you've got to be careful.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Oh, 100%. 100%. And it it does come with a warning about under 12s, like this isn't 400-12s. So we'll let Brain have a little fugoes on it and stuff, but it's not a kid's toy. It's um, you know, it's it's but it it's very cool. Even as an adult, you must forget yourself a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

So yeah, it's been really cool. You said you got Resident Evil. I've got different things and things.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

No, it's it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah, I like the Resident Evil games. They've got Resident Evil 4, which was one of my favourite ever games. I would actually poo my pants.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

No, because you you know it's retrograde, yeah. Why not? You can't even sort of just I don't know. I suppose you could still close your eyes.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

Well, I haven't played Resident Evil very much. We've we've mostly been playing the kayaking game and the horizon call of the mountain game, but obviously it only arrived on Wednesday and a full-time job, so I haven't really had a great deal of time. When it came on Wednesday, Brayden played it more than I did. So Gran Turismo is excellent as well. So like Brain had to go on Gran Turismo, and you use the the control pad and you can

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SPEAKER_00 30:20

steer with it as if like like like on the Wii with Marakart, but it feels so good, and you can change the settings to help kids play. So he's there with his helmet on driving a mini around Bruns Hatch, and he's really good. He's driving, he's taking the corners, and I'm like, it's it's very cool, but it's it is gonna have to be one of those things that we limit. But no, it it's as I say, for anybody who is sceptical about VR or is like uh that's just a fad. I can see it being the future it's gonna sound really geeky, the future of gaming wells. It's the future, it's the it's garlic bread, it's the future.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Fly through some. What do you call a man who can't stand? I don't know. What do you call a man who can't stand? Neil. Why did the chicken cross the playground? I don't know. To get to the other slide. I enjoyed that one. Uh what what did the left eye say to the right eye? I'm not sure. Between you and me, something smells. Uh very good.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

What is a tree's favourite drink? Uh I don't know. What is a tree's favourite drink? Root beer.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Ah, very good. How did two arsonists hook up?

SPEAKER_00 31:44

Um no. A match on Tinder. I was about to say match.com. That's a clever one. Yeah, that's very on Tinder. Very good. Why couldn't Dracula's wife get to sleep? Um not sure.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Because of his coffin. I won't do all the lays then, but um final one. How'd you organise a space party?

SPEAKER_00 32:10

How'd you organise a space party? I don't know else. You plan it. You plan very good. Very good.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

Well, it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Um snackman.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

So is that whether you're getting milk or some what sits for Georgie? Yeah, mainly.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Um, but yeah, yes, uh the snacks are are available.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Um we shall find out. Not the best company, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

Bye everyone. See you next time. I mean, have I stopped? I haven't stopped. The second part of season four will be coming soon. Email firstygnomes at outlook.com and don't forget to follow or subscribe to get future podcast episodes.