Episode 99 Clays and crows

This week Anto and Rob discuss their annual clay shoot in honour of the founding members of the gun club and they also travel out to a local farmer under huge pressure from a massive number of crows and pigeon.  There is laughs and giggles and plans for the impending deer season , lobster fishing and more !!!

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Anthony Grogan: Roberto!

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Robert Treacy: Anthony.

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Anthony Grogan: You miss me.

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Anthony Grogan: Go on. Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: I need you to come back. This is no fun without you. And can I say you're a lovely shade of mahogany? There.

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Anthony Grogan: Well, you're mahogany man. I'm teak.

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Robert Treacy: You enjoying yourself.

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Anthony Grogan: I am, I am, and I'm I'm glad to be home on Irish soil. I had a little bit of a

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Anthony Grogan: and had a little bit of a break there to Malaga

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Anthony Grogan: with the the young lad on the soccer ship. And

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Anthony Grogan: but you know me now I'm creature comfort, and

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Anthony Grogan: I'm not exactly the most sociable creature in the world, so it's completely out of my comfort zone.

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Anthony Grogan: And so I'm happy to be home on on good old Irish style.

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Robert Treacy: Same as myself. I wouldn't like to mix too much, so I understand where you're coming from.

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Robert Treacy: I was talking to you when you were over there now you seemed you seemed happy enough to know I was talking to you. Did you have a couple of fizzy pops.

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Anthony Grogan: I could have had a maybe a phantom. I was there.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, no, I was looking. It was. The weather was like 35, 36 degrees. I was with me, young lad.

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Anthony Grogan: and all happy, happy out, and probably the

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Anthony Grogan: look! There's loads of people I don't know. I I love chatting to see if I get to meet a person that's that I know, and has similar interest. But loads of people don't have similar interests to us. So that's where I kind of get

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Anthony Grogan: a little bit, probably socially social anxiety. So I go to.

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Anthony Grogan: When I went to the the bar the pubs I tend to just like kind of nestled down into the corner on my own, and loads of people would be saying to me, Oh, come on and join us, and don't be there on your own. But I'm.

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Robert Treacy: No.

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Anthony Grogan: I'm quite happy in the corner. I was like there was. There was a I'll give you an example right. There was a there was a team meeting, and so I go right back. This is a force habit right back to the bottom of the class, you know, right to the back and sit in the seats right at the back. So that's from my formative days in school, and that I'm happier.

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Robert Treacy: Allowed in you were allowed into the class. Were you.

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Anthony Grogan: You are in trouble.

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Anthony Grogan: Here's the points. There's the points.

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Robert Treacy: It's like that. Meme. Do you ever see the memes where they?

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Robert Treacy: There's someone at a family function? Do you hunt? No, of Grant? And then he just doesn't talk.

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Anthony Grogan: Kind of now in fairness there was. There was a lot of people who were kind of interested in it. I think I don't know where I told you or not. But this is probably one of the things where, where the

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Anthony Grogan: the reach of the podcast which we wouldn't normally appreciate but one of one of the coaches a big shout out to Garrett, and actually he has asked me to give a shout out to his Buddy, who I don't actually know his name yet, but I am finding out.

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Anthony Grogan: I was messaging about something completely different. It was actually just a sponsorship thing which we were both trying to to push, and

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Anthony Grogan: we're back and forward a little bit, and he obviously played out a voicemail or a voice message from me.

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Anthony Grogan: and then he rang me. He said, you won't believe this. I just. I played that message out loud in my office, and he obviously works up in town somewhere like completely random, and somebody said, Play that message again. There! Who? Who is that? And he said he looked over and said, like, Geez! I'm after making a

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Anthony Grogan: and he said, It's a guy I know from Enfield.

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Anthony Grogan: I know that voice play it again. So he played a little bit of it again. And he answered, That's your man from the podcast the Irish. I listen to him all the time. So there you go.

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Robert Treacy: You did. You did actually tell me that, and it is mad you don't. You don't fully grasp the reach that it has. I actually seen. It's 90

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Robert Treacy: 3 countries.

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Anthony Grogan: I think it's in now.

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Robert Treacy: That's nearly half of the world's country. So I looked it up. I had to Google it. I had something similar where 2 lads in work. Now, after the predator challenge you put up the clip of I shot like a dickhead. I was walking into the mess, and someone goes. I heard you shot like a dickhead.

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Anthony Grogan: Really strange man, you know, like and and like for for you said there, that you have to have the countries in the world that's that's that's quite a lot for 2 people who aren't great at maths, you know, to be half the countries in the world. But yeah, no, it's freaky to times. That's because it's very, very niche, obviously, but nonetheless, I think

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Anthony Grogan: the cool thing about it is the most random of conversations you'll get involved, and people kind of still are interested like, why would you hunt? Why did you like so? There is still an underlying current of of interest, even though what would you say? The

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Anthony Grogan: the Populist majority would be all hunting. That's for back in the dark ages. Kind of thing, you know. But there, yeah, there's still a there's.

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Robert Treacy: How can I explain it? We're not talking about this. But recently I went fishing with a group of lads who didn't know each other.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Robert Treacy: It would take probably a year of them like meeting on and off to get them as close as they are now. After one day doing something. I won't say primal, but it's weird. Hunting and fishing brings out something different.

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Robert Treacy: No, I won't say just in, lads, maybe, lads and girls, but it bonds yet really, really, quickly.

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Anthony Grogan: Without a doubt. I think you hit the nail on the head. Obviously we can only speak for the the male contingent, and maybe it's the same for the females, and we know there's some really, really

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Anthony Grogan: what was top level. Female hunters and fisher women out there, but we can only speak for the males, because that's that's our perspective. But definitely, I definitely think I was writing. Actually, I sent it to you today. But a little bit of a bio. We're actually working on our website as as well. You know. Both of us are head down, ass up, trying to get a few bits pulled together. And I was I was going through that

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Anthony Grogan: that that kind of bit of text as like how we met. And and I remember like, you know the things that kind of what would you say? Intertwine you are are, I definitely believe, hunting is fundamental to that. It's it's a it's. It's 1 of the links that we say it all the time is kind of to a time gone by, and I think it's a

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Anthony Grogan: once you've done it.

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Anthony Grogan: You have this kind of.

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Anthony Grogan: I think it's a link to the past. It's a link to who you really are. If that makes sense, I know I'm not trying to be.

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Anthony Grogan: But when the young lads came in here today, there's a friend down with Lee, and I have a big lump of venison on the barbecue at the minute, and I said to him, Do you ever have venison? No, no, but he's mad to try it. So even like

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Anthony Grogan: the excitement of trying

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Anthony Grogan: a food that he's not accustomed to or exposed to. And then he said, Do you like hunting? And I said, I love hunting. I make no excuse about it, and he said, Why do you like hunting? And I, said, Dan, I can't explain it. All I can explain to you is that I would encourage every person to try it just once. You know.

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Robert Treacy: Try your best to get him out like I have a nephew coming back in August, and I'm going to try my best to get him out, and I know once I get him out. That's it, he? Well, I don't know for definite, but there's a high possibility that he'll be into it.

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Anthony Grogan: Look, I think there's a better chance than not. I'll put it that way, I think, for definite. If you're saying to lads that they're not going to like it. You have probably a better chance of saying that they will than not. I think it's just. It's ingrained in us. It's something that's

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Anthony Grogan: we know naturally how to do, but we just have to remind it every now and again, and probably me more than more so than most as to how we go about doing it. And but yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Do you not remember the time we said, we'll bring a new lad out, Brandon Moyan.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, cool.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: very first, st Martin. Listen, there's going to be a bit of stalk, and there's going to be a bit of hardship, bit of crawl. We stepped into the very 1st field. There's a dare looking at us, and he pulled off the shot and there went down, and he was like, sure this is easy. No, it's not always like this. You.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, yeah. And he's looking. These 2 lads are bluffing. Man. This is like this is, I've gone through. I've done the license and the Hcap and all that kind of stuff, and everyone's telling me how hard this is going to be, and then I go out with you as pair, and you just like walk. I'd say it was about 50 60 yards, man, into that field over the broad hill, and

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Anthony Grogan: here's a.

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Robert Treacy: You.

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Anthony Grogan: Stanton, you know.

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Robert Treacy: You know I've never seen a deer there.

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Anthony Grogan: Never, never before I never since, never bastard. Yeah, but like

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Anthony Grogan: is not the thing. What was a beginner's look and all that kind of thing, and and greatly so. But he he's been mad to come back out again since, and that just proved, you know.

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Robert Treacy: He wants to come out with the 1st week of the season.

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Anthony Grogan: Now we gave him a little bit of harsh. We met him, and he was a little bit squeamish in the grolic, and then we met him carry it back or drag it back down. I was thinking we should probably should have met him drag that up the hill a little bit. Do you know what I mean? Just.

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Robert Treacy: Come here. How have you been?

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, I'm all good.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, busy, like, just as we're talking. I'm getting texts in there from the Bald Sean Terrell. And he said, Get a new Labrador pup, so he's looking for tips and tricks. Now I am no man to give tips or tricks about dogs. There's plenty of other lads that

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Robert Treacy: that he could go to and and learn proper. But there are a few people after writing in looking for.

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Anthony Grogan: They were saying that the videos were were too.

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Robert Treacy: What would you say? Grand? Not grand. But like 2 up there, they want something down at the basic levels of how we actually build.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: So we might look at doing something like that, like how you get the dog to see and then build it onto the whistle and all that sort of jazz.

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Robert Treacy: whatever.

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Anthony Grogan: Like that, Robert. I think. You see, this is the thing. This is one of the things where like this is not obviously our day to day, but and I take it for granted we, me and you to be talking like obviously every day, and I like that we'd be talking. Oh, what you do with the dog today, and

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Anthony Grogan: what we should be doing with the dog tomorrow, and all that kind of stuff, and forgetting that other people aren't involved in conversations. So we'd be skipping to probably, you know, step 3, and then to step 7 so and then thinking that sure, like everyone knows we've been talking about this, and I like what you said. There.

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Anthony Grogan: probably we take. We take that. Well, I definitely take it for granted that I have access to the likes yourself, and

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Anthony Grogan: and so on. And other people in this community who give us advice and tips and stuff like that. So definitely, I think that's brilliant. And Shawnee, that's a beautiful little puppy, has.

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Robert Treacy: It's really nice, isn't it? Now, like like you said, I'm really grateful

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Robert Treacy: if I'm being honest to the lads right now, you're better off going and getting someone who's actually really good at this. There's plenty of lads there that are trialing and could teach it from the ground up. The problem is, will they teach it because they're so busy with their own dogs?

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: If you can get in with them, get in with them, and if you want to listen to us, too, Ginny Joe's listen away. No problem.

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Anthony Grogan: Okay, I would say, like.

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Anthony Grogan: I definitely look, I've started. I had probably minimal interest in dog training until probably I went to the trials with you a couple, and you were at me and at me, and at me to go to one of them, and I said, I have really no interest in that. You know what I mean. I just want a dog just to put up a board, and I can.

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Anthony Grogan: I can have an ill populate or miss

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Anthony Grogan: not knowing the ins and outs. And then I went to that and that kind of built me interest. And then I start to ask you like a lot more questions. And I thought I knew what

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Anthony Grogan: you know a good dog was, and now I know I definitely know what a bad dog is, which is what I've always probably had

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Anthony Grogan: and I'm being a bad handler as well. You know.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. But just on that right triland

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Robert Treacy: from my perspective. And probably you'll agree trailing and and rough shooting 2 completely different skills. And and what they're looking for from the dog are 2 completely different things. So the trailer man wants a dog in real close, full control. If I tell him to go to that bush, because I know best. The wind is this side. I know that more than likely there's game in there. The dog can't pick up this

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Robert Treacy: where the rough shooter wants to go out and let the dog out a little bit more, walk behind it, whatever direction the dog is going

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Robert Treacy: and then shoot.

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Robert Treacy: So like they're 2 completely different skill sets. And I understand people writing in frustrated. No, you're doing this. You're doing 2 completely different things.

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Anthony Grogan: Without. And and this is where I suppose the the basics are. Probably the fundamentals are probably the same in both disciplines until they start to diverge, and then like

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Anthony Grogan: similar to what you're saying. There, right? I look at like we're on loads of dog forums and stuff like that, and you'd hear them. I want dogs to to be, you know, beaten cover like mad, you know, whereas I am I right in saying this? Well, this is my opinion on it, so I'm going to give it. You can correct me or give yours. I want a dog that's I want to be able to trust me, dog, knowing that I don't need them to beat every inch of ground. I want them

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Anthony Grogan: or her to be able to to work that ground and work the wind, and be clever enough to cover without having to wear herself out within the 1st fucking? 45 min. Would that be fair?

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Robert Treacy: Right? So this is where the 2 differ. That is a rough man. Shoot.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Robert Treacy: Yes, that that is the skill and and what you do the trial. A man wants to click his dog off, cover the ground

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Robert Treacy: properly in his arc from gone to gone.

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Anthony Grogan: Yes. Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Every inch of that ground. It doesn't have to go for 2 or 3 h. It might have to go for

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Robert Treacy: fucking 5 min to 25 min at full tilt, till it finds and sits, flushes.

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Robert Treacy: retrieves, and he might have to do that once, maybe twice, before he's into the next the next part of the competition so completely different.

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Robert Treacy: some of the things transfer transferred over like the steadiness of the dog, all of that, but letting the dog out, not beating every piece of the cover. For instance, if you pass a bird, you'll probably never know if you pass the bird where, if a bird passes someone in a trial. That's it. They're out! They're gone.

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Robert Treacy: Put your lead on your dog, get!

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Robert Treacy: And they could have drove the far end of the country, and now they're 5 min in and get their lead on and head on home. So they're 2 completely different skill sets.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah. And like, I remember you saying, I had Millie out, probably in the 1st year, and like that. It was not too long after the trial, you know so and this is from an inexperienced dog handler like me. I was kind of

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Anthony Grogan: you know. I was getting a bit. Why isn't she? You know I mean beating like mad, you know. She wasn't as busy as I'd seen dealer dogs, and you were saying, relax. She's she's doing fine, and then you seen her kind of work in the wind. You know she was. She was. She was doing her thing, being.

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Anthony Grogan: you know, she was being clever about. She didn't have to jump into every fucking briar and bush, because if she did, we'd be finished, as you said, packing up within the 1st hour, and then the rest of the 4, 5, 6 h that we're out hunting. You're walking on your own. So

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Anthony Grogan: it's complete. It's completely different, as you say, different discipline.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. Now, I don't know how we're after going onto this tangent, because we're actually supposed to be talking about

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Robert Treacy: a day crow shooting and the questions that we had.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, no, we. We have lots of other things to talk about, but but that'll be part 2, because we won't have enough time, and you have a big lump of venison on the barbecue.

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Anthony Grogan: I do. I do. I do. Well, I'm average is in control. That now. Man so like this is, you know.

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Anthony Grogan: child's play. Now, at this stage we've so the manager spoke to me.

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Anthony Grogan: And

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Anthony Grogan: but yeah, we're going to start with the with the clay shoot. I think so. We're going to track back. And we mentioned Sean here a little, and I wanted to just give a little quick share with Shawnee, because

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Anthony Grogan: Shawnee's a great little shopman, and we talked off air about this the other day

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Anthony Grogan: because Shawnee was messaging you about, and he sent me a message of of the the lab, and I said

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Anthony Grogan: we were that busy with the, you know, just going around and trying to keep score and mingle and stuff like that on the day, but he had a cracking at the score, and was right up there with the very best on the day, so, as were there was a few nice shots on that day.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. Oh, you had Marco

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Robert Treacy: Diego Shawnee Terrell, that young lad from? And I was very impressed with that young lad, and yes, on your crew.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, I thought he was very good, and he never shot clays before.

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Anthony Grogan: No, this is actually

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Anthony Grogan: he. This is his 1st year. He's only literally got his his license, probably a couple of months back. So a huge, huge well done to Sean and like that. And we had a couple of young shooters on the day, and

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Anthony Grogan: and it's fantastic, and that that's probably what that's all about, Rob.

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Robert Treacy: A 100% it is, and even down to Jackal.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Taco shot extremely well.

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Anthony Grogan: Absolutely. Yeah, even considering the piece of shit he was shooting, with which we we convinced him to trade in on the day. So

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Anthony Grogan: yeah, I've been at him. It was. It was an excuse. Jack was my brother, obviously, for people who don't know, and he's been shooting there for a couple of years, but he has a

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Anthony Grogan: he's no gun that I've been on to him to to change for the last couple of seasons, and, like myself, he wouldn't be very kind on a gun.

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Anthony Grogan: and.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, it was like it was an all over brown color. We'll just leave it that. But he he yeah, no, he's a he's a decent shot, and I want to try and get out a couple of times with him this year. Hopefully with a dog, and put up a few birds in front of him, and hopefully convince him to get a little little pup of his own. But that's that's the book.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. And I wouldn't mind the shock when he got it's actually nice, because he was looking at it. He was looking at a couple, and

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Robert Treacy: the 1st one I picked up that he was looking at. I was like, I don't like that. Just didn't like the feel of it was too front heavy.

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Anthony Grogan: he actually has it. Now I had it in my hands. So I changed out the chalks from there.

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Anthony Grogan: And he was absolutely thrilled with it. But.

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Anthony Grogan: Oh, no, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. We went through with it with a fine. Who comes? He love his full set of chokes, and, like that, huge, thanks to David Dawn down in Lakelands as well, who spent a load of time that afternoon with us, going through a few different guns and getting to going to fit them the best. So, as you know, Dave is a

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Robert Treacy: I said this, I said this to you, didn't I, about the rival?

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Robert Treacy: I think you said it to him. I don't think I ever said it on the Podcast.

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Anthony Grogan: No, you said that day. Actually, we were chatting.

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Robert Treacy: So I bought a new scope for the rifle and brought it in. And because of the Blazer Mountain system, Saddle Mount. I wouldn't be too familiar with it, so I said it to David. Done! Is there any chance that you could set that up for me? So I was watching him.

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Robert Treacy: tighten it, and then he handed it to me, and he goes, what's that for oil? Relief? No, in fairness the oil relief was spot on, and I said that when I was there, but I walked out of the shop going, and I rang you on the way back.

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Robert Treacy: I did, and I said this lad did not use a spirit level. He used fucking nothing. So I'm going to have to undo all his work and do myself.

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Robert Treacy: That was a waste of that was a waste of time. So I got spare levels, sat down to do it, and that thing was spot on

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Anthony Grogan: He actually said that to him on the day, and he was there. I've done one or 2, and we all know he's done more than just one or 2, but no, in fairness to him. He spent a good bit of time with Keith. There we tried a couple of different shotguns, and he said, I think he kind of knew. Once he had the 1st one or 2 in his hand, he said, No, I've won here for you, and he comes out with the Bretta.

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Anthony Grogan: And look, I have a Brett on myself, and, as I said to Keith, my one has lasted me this long, considering the tender love and care I give it. That's the gunman. Do you know what I mean like that is there? If you a couple times a year cleaner out every now and again, and you'll have a gun. That'll that'll do you, for money's a season, and and he has a he's a beautiful. As a matter of fact, dude.

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Anthony Grogan: it's in the words of Pat Brennan, it it goes up to the minute I picked that up. I I said, Jesus, if if I didn't have my own one, it just felt all kinds of comfortable. It's lovely going to to.

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Anthony Grogan: Control, open your shoulder. So they were night and day, so I was delighted for him.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, like going back. I suppose we would track back.

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Anthony Grogan: And a huge thanks to yourself as well, man, I know it's it's you're probably an honorary member of the club at this stage, even though you're not here.

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Robert Treacy: I thought, I have a hoodie. I have a hoodie. I'm in that club, if they know it or not.

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Anthony Grogan: But yeah, look, we, we've well, this is the second year of the the Founders Memorial, right? And it was, it was we wanted to do something to honor the the founding members. They're still there's still one or 2 of them alive.

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Anthony Grogan: and which we hope to be able to present the trophy. It's the 50th anniversary next year. So we're we're hoping to try and do something around that something cool. But

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Anthony Grogan: you know, national or regional level kind of clay shooting. It was just somewhere people could go have a bit of crack and and shoot a few clays and a bit of slagging, you know the usual crack. So

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Anthony Grogan: And quite quickly. It's

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Anthony Grogan: it was a success in that. Loads of people asked for it to go on again, and it's got bigger this year.

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Robert Treacy: I've seen that I've seen that with the numbers that turned up, and when we're talking about numbers that turned up, you'd have to give a big shout out to Ross Mcquaid, and he turned up to support it again this year, and I think it's great what you're doing honoring past members. That's who set up the club.

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Robert Treacy: So for the 51, we're gonna have to pull something big out. Maybe Noah would let us have a barbecue there. Maybe

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Anthony Grogan: We will, we will, we'll do. We'll do something kind of we'll do something kind of cool, because, like it's, it's a it's a brilliant. It's a brilliant setup down there, and, as you rightly said, and the big, easy, fair play to him, and he gave us a dig out in terms of marketing cards. We got our

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, Marco and Massimo. In fact, they came a little bit early, and they shut off.

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Anthony Grogan: Oh, Marky, no, yeah, yeah, Markie, was he shot in his second in second.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, yeah. But he was with us American cards and stuff.

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Anthony Grogan: and fucking. You're gonna get me in trouble for that now. We could have glanced over that now. But you have to highlight it. So he's gonna be straight on to be there. After this, podcast you know.

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Robert Treacy: Here. He didn't shoot. Too bad. Is he buying a gun.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, he didn't. He shot very well, actually, yeah, yeah, he's he's he's

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Anthony Grogan: we have to get him out more. He's a nice fella. See? The way I turned that around I highlighted you, and then I brought it back. Now again

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Anthony Grogan: one of the men who who introduced me to my to my darling wife. So there you go. And many years ago yeah, he did. He was my wingman at the time.

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Anthony Grogan: The nice value. We may get him out more. He might come out deer shooting this year, would he?

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Anthony Grogan: He would, and he loves fox shooting. I brought him out a couple of times, fox shooting, and he's been on to me. Money's time now, but sure trying to get you out. Fox shooting is like trying to get.

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Robert Treacy: If I if I can't eat it or mount it, I don't want it.

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Robert Treacy: Now. I understand the the

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Robert Treacy: the benefits of doing it. But I'm actually not in a game. I'm actually in the Army Gang Club. But there's there's no foxes around there, and but I understand why other game clubs do it.

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Robert Treacy: I will do it with you more.

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Anthony Grogan: We've we've reasoned. And now we've a couple of we've few vermin competitions. We're going to be running. So you'll have to.

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Anthony Grogan: But yeah, like like that.

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Anthony Grogan: We're doing. All right, man, you're doing all right. We we got 4 in the last time we're Grant. That's that's good numbers for me.

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Anthony Grogan: Yes, we we ran off our around fairly quick. You actually shot very well, and I wish I was. I was actually you hadn't been shooting great up to that. To be honest with you.

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Robert Treacy: Wasn't. I wasn't shooting. To be honest, I wasn't shooting great there, either, like even Dicko. And like when I was shooting Clay's hard. Dicko would have been shooting with me.

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Robert Treacy: and he even said at the end, man, you weren't shooting great there he was, only, I think, one behind me, 2 behind me something like he was right there.

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Robert Treacy: so you can't be great at something if you're not doing it all the time. So I shot all right. Not wonderful. I need more more practice.

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Anthony Grogan: like you shot respectable at the competition which was.

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Anthony Grogan: I was now I was close on. I was close on until I fucked up on the I think on the second last stand, which was, and I had like I wouldn't mind. I looked over old shotgun footage of that particular stand a month or so previous, and I think I was hitting

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Anthony Grogan: complete just capitulation and lack of concentration. I think, in the 1st couple, and then it just led to. I'm like a golf. If I over hit in the 1st one I longer hit in the next one, and that's I was. I was given.

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Robert Treacy: So I wasn't keeping any sort of scars.

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Robert Treacy: I was having the crack, but when we were adding up at the end. And I seen your score. I was like, No, no, someone double check that, because that's not right, because.

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Robert Treacy: I don't know what happened. I know you had one bad stand, and one bad stand is all it needs to fuck you up, and I could have led into that because I was trying my best to fuck you up.

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Robert Treacy: I was even saying, Jesus, you're shooting where one stand now could mess you up. I must have said that 3 times.

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Anthony Grogan: We were actually messed on the 1st couple, which were actually the harder stands, you know, on the open stands out the back.

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Anthony Grogan: and they were the. And there's 1 or 2 of them which are historically my Kryptonites. You know what I mean, the ones that are the ones that are.

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Anthony Grogan: There was one in particular as well. There was. It was a black clay that came from from right to left.

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Anthony Grogan: right until it's on top of you. And and my eyesight is not wonderful, as you know as well. So but like that, and it was. Of course it was a couple of, but I actually shot re like for me, reasonably well on them stands, as I say, it was just the easy stand actually let me down, which

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Anthony Grogan: but yeah. And then the lads quickly followed, followed in, and then we all we all started to to mark cards, and I like that, as I said to you, and some some really good shooting on the day.

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Robert Treacy: Really really good. I was actually very surprised big. I'm not sure if the boys have been practicing, but there was a big up level of scale compared to the 1st year.

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Anthony Grogan: Correct.

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Robert Treacy: Across your dad. I was what like a couple of lads that were shot last year I was watching this year going. Oh, Jesus, Dylan!

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Robert Treacy: There was a couple of them, and not only on that, I'd say Noyle made a couple of euro there on us, because a couple of the boys bought stuff when they went in.

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Anthony Grogan: They did. Yeah, yeah. Like for anyone who hasn't been in Lakelands, it's like you walk in. And of course, the lads, when we were shooting off ours, the lads that come in and run around and were coming out. Do you see the shotguns hanging up there? Obviously there's some premium guns, you know, but like that. Yeah, there was some some nice gear in there, in fairness, you know.

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Robert Treacy: Has it well stocked like. There's very few gun shops to have it. I'm not even talking about firearms well stocked he has that. But even down to let's say firearm, upkeep, oils, and grease is like

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Robert Treacy: other shops, where you go here? Have you got this? Now? We'll have it in 2 weeks.

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Anthony Grogan: Absolutely, and I think the the quality of the stuff man is.

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Anthony Grogan: I I've I've I've shopped in the bargain basement for many years as as many as a hunter, and and sometimes you you've you've to buy 3 times to to.

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Anthony Grogan: me. And you were talking actually, just before air, just a few bits and pieces. We have our

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Anthony Grogan: our eye on that. We we need to to get for the upcoming season. But some of the gear

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Robert Treacy: not the cheaper gear, but the more affordable gear, because it's the only thing I had money, for at the time.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep, bye.

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Robert Treacy: I won't say through my whole life, but even in dishwashers and washing machines. But you get what you pay for. For instance, if I go out and buy a miele dishwasher that's going to last me 20 years, where, if I buy something or €200 that might last me 2 years.

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Robert Treacy: So I've changed my mindset as I got older that I'll buy once cry once.

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Robert Treacy: That's why I went for a more expensive gun this this time around.

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Anthony Grogan: And a more expensive dishwasher and washing machine. And that's really what's grating on your nerves. There, now, Robert, isn't it?

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Robert Treacy: It is a little bit. Yeah. I told you the dogs. No. So the 2 dogs at me little fuckers! They ate me

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Robert Treacy: They were led into the laundry room, and I left them in there because the weather was really warm. And

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Robert Treacy: yeah, they had the inside sales and.

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Anthony Grogan: And your jackets.

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Robert Treacy: Which jacket, because they had me a helly Hansen jacket.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, yeah, they took that off the line, and that. So.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: These motherfuckers wash machine washer. His wash machine is dryer and his bath.

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Robert Treacy: Good jockey.

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Anthony Grogan: Poking Helly, handsome jacket.

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Robert Treacy: Me barbecue me, barbecue the wires on me go barbecue.

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Anthony Grogan: Look.

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Robert Treacy: No one take a voice off me.

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Anthony Grogan: We had it back then, and so we'll talk a little bit about score. So like Ross and yourself and Dico were were kind of neck and neck. Open the top of the queue.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, Massimo Amarco again up there as well, and that was the kind of the

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Anthony Grogan: Cullen Healy, who, I was delighted, for Cullen's, 1 of the younger members in our scope.

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Anthony Grogan: and this was his 1st year, hey? Shooting! And

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Anthony Grogan: and he was there with his dad, Pat and Colin

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Anthony Grogan: outshot me on the day and the rest of the club. I think I was second, and I think Jacko was 3, rd

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Anthony Grogan: and there was a couple in around that as well, very, very close up near there. But I was absolutely thrilled for Cullen, because, like that, that's what the competition was for. It wasn't. It wasn't for lads to come in and be, you know, blasting. It's to keep it competitive, and and so on, and encourage the next generation. And and like that comes a great lad, a big lad

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Anthony Grogan: plenty, plenty plenty of horsepower there, and like like Dylan, and and as well, similar to

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Anthony Grogan: plays, a bit of Rugby, and so on. And but yeah, he was delighted, and and so was Pat, so huge congratulations to to the Heaney family.

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Anthony Grogan: He's the second name on the cup.

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Anthony Grogan: and he'll be there forevermore, and in many years to come, please God, and that that lineage will continue on.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, I know he was like that from an outsider looking in. I was thrilled for that young lad and his father because his father shot very well.

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Robert Treacy: but his son just picked him, and you could see that the father, when you were announcing him who won. You could see the pride in the dad. So look! I think you're doing brilliant things with the club.

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Anthony Grogan: Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

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Anthony Grogan: We all had it back to to to roaches.

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Anthony Grogan: Another one.

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Robert Treacy: Downhill.

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Anthony Grogan: We went. We went. Yeah, it went. It went somewhere, and

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Anthony Grogan: phenomenal, I thought was savage. And and the Oh, yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: Pint. Of course you came in just after, and you bought me a pint of Guinness, and I said, Oh, geez! I'll have to drink it.

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Robert Treacy: You there.

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Robert Treacy: Oh, you're gone now. You're back.

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Anthony Grogan: What's up, Buddy?

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Robert Treacy: Sorry you cut out there for a second.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Robert Treacy: Go on. You had to drink. Guinness.

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Anthony Grogan: It's a growbook.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, I had to drink Guinness then, but the Grube was was savage, wasn't it?

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Robert Treacy: It really was! I think they did the cocktail sausages in some sort of sweet chilli sauce. Who organised that group? Was it Jacko.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Robert Treacy: Very pleasure.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, he, he! He did the food on the day and in fairness to him. And

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Anthony Grogan: yeah, like like that, we'd and a huge. I just want to say, just before you're after prompted me there as well, a huge shout out or shout out to to all the sponsors, and they like we, we phenomenal support from both local and and surrounding

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Anthony Grogan: businesses, which which helped immensely because obviously as part of

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Anthony Grogan: we try and raise a few bob for the club, and we also try and raise a few bob, for we try and incorporate a charity.

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Anthony Grogan: And this year it was little blue heroes. So yeah, thanks to everyone.

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Robert Treacy: Where did you go with that one, Buddy?

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Anthony Grogan: It was just, I think, last year we did muscle dystrophy again. It was it was that was a friend of ours who is younger has muscle dystrophy, and this year it was I was chatting to.

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Anthony Grogan: and we've raised a few bob, as we do every year for for cancer, which is obviously a very worthwhile cause. And

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Anthony Grogan: and but my sister, actually, who's who's a guard? And was chatting

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Anthony Grogan: to one of my other sisters? And she was saying. Do you know it's brilliant. One of the

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Anthony Grogan: or colleagues was involved in little blue heroes. I'd never heard of it before, but it's for

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Anthony Grogan: for kids with end of life and and serious illness, you know.

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Anthony Grogan: and they raise a few bob. And they they make a big deal about the kids, and you know they bring them out. And you know.

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Anthony Grogan: sometimes when when the kids are able, and that they, you know, put the the blue cap on them, and and so on, and give them a bit of a spin in the car and stuff, and and they they organize events and and and trips and stuff for for kids who wouldn't have access to that kind of stuff, you know.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. The only reason I asked is, I never heard about it either. And then I actually did a little bit of looking into it, and it's a great cause. And what the club and what you are doing every year giving back to charity.

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Robert Treacy: It's it's phenomenal, because there's not many

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Robert Treacy: groups that do that on an annual basis, so long may it last.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, look. And that's, I suppose. Look, isn't that what it's all about? I think gun clubs around the country probably don't get enough spotlight for this type of stuff you know there is. There's local barbecues and poker tournaments and all that kind of stuff that are being run around the country, and

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Anthony Grogan: they're all giving their few bob towards worthy causes and stuff. And we're lucky enough in that. You know, we're we're involved in the local club, and we're also able to highlight on social media and stuff. But like that, if anyone else has

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Anthony Grogan: you know, fundraisers and stuff send them into, we've no issue sharing them, because that's what we want to do. Try, try and shine a spotlight onto what what the clubs do and

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Anthony Grogan: and like that our our event. And again, man, you were hugely involved in that, you without you it wouldn't have been possible.

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Anthony Grogan: But

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Anthony Grogan: We managed to raise 1,500 quid for for charity.

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Anthony Grogan: and we were able to present a check to to Mo from port Leash, and she come down actually in in the squad car, and thankfully, for the 1st time in my life when I seen a squad car coming into my.

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Robert Treacy: Hey? You weren't running.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, yeah, it was a brilliant, a brilliant occasion, and it was a proud moment to be able to do it on behalf of the great work that's done in the background. So yeah, it was.

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Anthony Grogan: We ended up.

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Anthony Grogan: You left kind of early doors.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: It went on. Well, early doors was, you know, I probably the following morning I would have been slightly envious that you left at the time you left.

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Robert Treacy: I got out when the time was right. Buddy.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, now, you were kind of moot, and you would have sat around for another one or 2. I'd say.

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Robert Treacy: I would have stayed, but she knew by me that I was starting to get the goo, and she knew she had to move me then. So I was glad I brought herself, and she was delighted because Sean got a little presentation and thanks a million, because that made his day, and that's what keeps youngsters interested. That's why he wanted to go back this year, because last year he got a cup and a cap, and he actually he wears that cap the whole time.

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Anthony Grogan: You don't, because I was like.

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Robert Treacy: He does.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. So.

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Anthony Grogan: And I've no.

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Robert Treacy: Well, it go on.

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Anthony Grogan: That that I think I actually showed up into the school that day right unannounced, and he didn't know I was coming, and he was wearing that cap, and I probably didn't think about the importance of that until that day. Do you know what I'm saying, and that you know you do things like that. And I think

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Anthony Grogan: from that, just to give you an example, you know Ryan, who looks up immensely to Sean. He's a year behind Sean.

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Anthony Grogan: or there thereabouts, but would would be looking at him, and kind of you know. So he's looking at oh, geez! What's Sean doing? And and so on so forth. And now he's talking about, you know. Oh, Dad, can I have a I have a shot at a gun, you know, can I?

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Anthony Grogan: So it's like that. It's like you start.

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Anthony Grogan: You start the the snowball down the mountain, and then it becomes, you know, it gets bigger and bigger, and that's you don't realize that the impact of that, you know. If you get one person, one young involved.

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Anthony Grogan: it has a knock on, and that's what it's all about.

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Robert Treacy: So just to give the context. Anyone that who doesn't know Anthos Club does

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Robert Treacy: conservation work and raises pheasants. So when he says he was in Sean school. They were getting the kids to raise the pheasants, so incubate the eggs and bring them all the way forward, and when Anto turned up to show

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Robert Treacy: the the kids how to do it. All unannounced. Sean actually had the the Anthos Gun Club cap on just by chance, because he had no idea I had no idea you were turning up that day, so like he really does cherish it, and you know where he is right now.

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Anthony Grogan: Go on!

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Robert Treacy: He's out pigeon shooting with his granddad.

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Anthony Grogan: Jeez yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Because, remember, I sent you a message to farmers at the same saying this.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: That there's a problem I drove by, and I was just talking to Jimmy, and that's that's his granddad. And as I drove by the field I pulled over, and there was just crows and pigeons hopping off, knocking over huge portions of crop.

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Robert Treacy: And I said, right, Jim, you need to go now.

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Robert Treacy: And so he goes. Right. Are you coming? I said. I can't. I have to do a podcast with my favorite friend in the whole world. Anthony

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Robert Treacy: wouldn't go. So the 2 lads, Sean and his granddad are gone up there to help out a farmer. So that's where they are. So we see how it grows. He wasn't that big into shooting. Next minute we brought him out once or twice, clay competition introducing the pheasants. How they're reared crop protection all of a sudden you have a young lad who's into the same lifestyle as us.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, yeah. And that's that's the benefit of man, isn't it? You know. Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Now we did a bit of crop protection ourselves.

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Anthony Grogan: Surely we did, surely, and we had one of them days again, is is to put a context here right whenever I say, Oh, we have to go down this this place. It just

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Anthony Grogan: you know, that little laugh. There, that's probably sums up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard this. And then and sometimes it doesn't then very rarely doesn't work out right. But because I did the last day I brought you a spot that it was okay. But it wasn't great, but this was a humdinger man. This was a humdinger.

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Robert Treacy: I'll give you right. I'll give you one thing you've said to me now a couple of times. This spot, this has it.

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Robert Treacy: and I've often turned up and went that fucking this spot I might as well be sitting out my backyard, and you always produce that's trout, fishing, deer, shooting.

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Robert Treacy: and and pigeon, and cross in fairness to you. You do.

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Anthony Grogan: Now like I'd love you're you're you're giving me a big head man, but it's something that

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Anthony Grogan: you know what I mean. It's it's ingrained in me. I go back to the ancestry. It's it's somewhere in the bloodline. I just don't know where.

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Robert Treacy: Say you were down earlier that day, and you licked the you had a magic.

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Robert Treacy: and you knew you just knew they'd be coming from the West in their hundreds. Go on, talk us through it. What was the story.

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Anthony Grogan: And literally, and I was having we set up.

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Anthony Grogan: So there was. There was a couple of fields behind my my house. There was, there was a long grass, and I've been waiting because I've been seeing them coming in. And I was saying, that's the spot. There's a like a fucking old trailer that's been overturned, rusted to bits in one of the corners of fields.

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Anthony Grogan: I like that, and

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Anthony Grogan: I said, that is the spot. So we we set up a little bit of a hide just around that trailer, actually. And we just sat there, and we didn't have to do much other than sit there. And you did a little bit of calling mature your lovely mouth call just before anyone says it's a it's a they might actually think that's a digital call.

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Robert Treacy: That's it.

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Anthony Grogan: That's it. There you go! There you go!

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Anthony Grogan: Record that, or screen-creen.

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Robert Treacy: Should I actually.

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Anthony Grogan: We'll have droves across.

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Robert Treacy: Patent pending on that you owe me a flavor. I was going to use that.

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Anthony Grogan: Brace yourself, man, but yeah, and and literally, man, they just started to fucking pile in on us, didn't they?

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Robert Treacy: Not, indeed. Yeah, and I'll give you. You were shooting very well. You were on fire in fairness to it.

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Anthony Grogan: Now, here's the thing right. I was shooting with 7 halves right?

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Anthony Grogan: I can't remember because it was. It was actually a Lakelands that I got them.

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Anthony Grogan: What was the brand.

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Robert Treacy: Oh!

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Anthony Grogan: But I'm gonna I'm gonna gonna.

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Robert Treacy: While you're there, right, I can actually walk in and find out the brand for you. Right? So you were shooting 7 and a half, and I was shooting sixes of the same.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Anthony Grogan: Yep.

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Robert Treacy: No, I do have them. They're J, and G, that's what they call J and G, and they're brand new into Lakelands, and I was shooting the sixes. You were shooting the 7 and a half, and the 7 and a half seem to be working better.

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Anthony Grogan: They were because I had brought out half a box. And you so did you of the sixes, and

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Anthony Grogan: I think halfway through I think I started shooting sixes, and I was shooting Shite.

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Anthony Grogan: But I taught the 7 halves. Just

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Anthony Grogan: obviously give it a nicer spread. But,

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Anthony Grogan: you you were kind of

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Anthony Grogan: you were probably not, believe me, essentially. That's what I'm trying to say. I can't think of the word, but I think you switched over to 7 halves, and you said, Oh, they're actually shooting! Very well.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah. So I ran out of sixes and you gave me some of your 7 and a half, I think. Yeah. Or I had some 7 I can't remember, but I started shooting 7 and a half, and there was very few things getting away, and where I would be of the belief

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Robert Treacy: when shooting game I would go

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Robert Treacy: like 5 fives, 34 gram fives. And because there's there's no such thing as 2 dead when you're when you're shooting game. I don't want to injure it.

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Robert Treacy: but that that mightn't be suiting might go on in terms of pattern.

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Robert Treacy: and some of the stuff I'm shooting at like partridge. They don't need a 5.

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Robert Treacy: No, like a 7 is perfect for them. So you have to. You actually have to change my mind there on, and you're not the 1st one to say that in fairness, Ronan Garman, and I think Pat Brennan said it to me as well. Would you not drop down shot size.

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Robert Treacy: because the more pellets you put on the animal, the more kinetic energy combined. You would take it down.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, and that goes back. Years ago, Mark Lynn would have been saying to me, you know, like I would have been similar to yourself. I think I would have started shooting a fight with fives, and you would have always said to me, Fives, but I when I go in, I normally, I go for, say 1st November be 22 gram sixes, you know. And yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: and but I would be definitely, you know, you know.

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Anthony Grogan: I'd be definitely interested to try it season. That's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to make up my mind until I try it. But yeah, just probably drop the shot size from definitely. I was experiment last year between fives and sixes. And I'm definitely in the 6 category. And yeah, look, it's it's I know lads have all kinds of different theories. You'll get them on the from fives right up to 7, so

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Anthony Grogan: I am.

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Robert Treacy: We could start this debate about shot, size, or bullet, like cartridge size, and

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Robert Treacy: sure you could go on all day. But I did notice

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Robert Treacy: significant difference now. It's probably the the pattern spread or the density of the pattern that was taking them down more. But I did notice a difference, so I'll give it a shot. I might I might call me bottom barrel 7 and a half, me top barrel.

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Robert Treacy: 6 or 5.

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Anthony Grogan: Here's a question for you. Bottom barrel first, st or top barrel first.st

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Robert Treacy: And traditionally in fixed rokes guns. It is the bottom barrel. Is the loser barrel?

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, in big chokes guns? Right? But

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Robert Treacy: If I'm Hyde Shilton.

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Robert Treacy: I like to have my top barrel as the most open barrel, because then I don't have to open me going fully for it to eject.

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Robert Treacy: So essentially, it's completely up to you. If you've

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Robert Treacy: what you call a multi-choke gun, do whatever do whatever you really want, have have the 2 barrels shooting the same.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Do whatever you want, but for me if I'm in a high pigeon shooting, I I normally go me top barrel the looser barrel. Just so. I don't have to open it fully, and it'll eject.

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Anthony Grogan: I I will be on in in that group. But I was gonna say there because because I only need one shot essentially. But I wouldn't

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Anthony Grogan: and you're after picking up on that one. But there was yeah, there was some. There was actually some very good shots that then it was a particularly good day. There was some some lovely kind of left to right crossers, and they were coming in high and quick, and we were pulling them out of all angles. Man, it was just one of them. It was, I think, we ended up. We ended up over 100 2,130 boards, correct.

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Robert Treacy: That's what we counted. But you know yourself, yeah, yeah, see a leg down, you know, and or you hit it hard. But it has traveled into the neck like it's folded. Yeah, it's it's it's stone dead flying like not flying momentum has carried it into the next field or the hedge. You're just never going to retrieve them words, and but that is the count that we got physically. And

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Robert Treacy: but I love the bit of competition that's there like someone will get a further board. Oh, that shot of the day, and then someone else will get in the oh, I am in! You ain't beating that I just it's just great. Crack!

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Anthony Grogan: It is. It's pretty, because, like it starts off kind of you kind of let them come in. You know what I mean like that you know you can let them come in a little bit, and then and that's grand, and then somebody then pulls out a kind of a worldly shot, and then so then you're starting to pick them off a little bit quicker, you know, and you're trying to. It's great. I think it's great practice, for it's far better, I think, than clay shooting in terms of preparation for game boards, because you're getting you're getting different speed boards. You're getting kind of

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Anthony Grogan: birds are coming into land. Birds are kind of coming over. You cross, and you get the odd pigeon or the grey. The grey is obviously a little bit more. I find the grey is kind of a little bit more.

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Robert Treacy: Hello, sir!

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, you know what I mean. They don't. They're not coming in as stupidly as as the crows. They're a little bit more elusive. So they act a little bit more, I think, like game boards, don't they? You know. Like as in they'll

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Anthony Grogan: they'll take off

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Anthony Grogan: on their merry way quicker. So you have to react a little bit quicker to them, I think, and they're.

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Robert Treacy: An old jackdaw, a jackdaw and wind can can turn, turn a wing and gone within

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Robert Treacy: a split second. They are really hard shooting.

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Robert Treacy: but I would argue that a good day on crows and pigeons

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Robert Treacy: could be argued that it's some of the best shooting that you're going to get.

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Robert Treacy: It is money. It's for free, not for free. But so you're doing a farm or a service, and

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Robert Treacy: you're doing what you want to do.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah.

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Robert Treacy: And but I would argue that it is some of the the finest children that we have.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, if if somebody had to put it like a microphone, we might might just do that. And we might have to fucking edit a lot of it, but in in the.

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Robert Treacy: Microphone in the hood. No Jesus Christ, no.

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Anthony Grogan: Because the slagging it's brilliant. It's great competitive shooting, and it's it's brilliant for 2 people in the height. You have great crack, because if one person misses, then you're you're you're yeah in a nice way. You put a little bit on them. You know what I mean. You can. You can slag them a little bit. But yeah, it was one of the best days shooting. I think I've had in a long time. Man.

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Anthony Grogan: yeah, it lift your mood, wouldn't it?

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Anthony Grogan: It would, of course it would. Yeah.

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Anthony Grogan: The weather was good. They were coming in heavy, and I looked at that the other day, and they're still coming in there, man, there's a

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Anthony Grogan: horrendous amount of them there on there, so we might have to do another little day down there.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, and same same up my neck in the woods. So what have we got to look forward to? The deer season's only around the corner.

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Anthony Grogan: I just text you today, man, we have to. Well, I have to check 0.

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Anthony Grogan: And yeah.

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Robert Treacy: Oh, here's a bit of news here.

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Anthony Grogan: Go on!

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Robert Treacy: Me gun licenses came in. Never told you.

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Anthony Grogan: You didn't.

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Robert Treacy: Fair play to to the guards. They put a wriggle on that, and me deerstalking license just approved today.

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Anthony Grogan: Dead!

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Robert Treacy: So I'm all good to go, and they they're getting my European firearms license sorted with super. So I'll be good to go for September.

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Anthony Grogan: Brilliant. So now, quite quickly, man, we have

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Anthony Grogan: deer season less than 2 weeks away, with the following week.

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Robert Treacy: Wait!

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Anthony Grogan: I cannot wait, and I didn't think I was going to be as excited because no, I'm not really excited until it kind of comes September. Yeah, my fuck. I want to get out. I can't wait. I just can't wait to get the.

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Anthony Grogan: And it seems like an age. But seems like only yesterday we were out so.

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Anthony Grogan: and we've we have some. We have some interesting new spots. So we're we're we're a

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Anthony Grogan: we're mad to get going mad to get going.

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Robert Treacy: So we have that. Then we have. We're heading up to Andrew Henderson.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, the hotel we're staying in.

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Robert Treacy: Worse. And I'm not telling people because they'll turn up in their droves.

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Anthony Grogan: Oh, man, you look so! You're famous!

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Robert Treacy: I won't tell you the hotel, but it's boxed, and so we're going up to Andy and lobster potting. This is part of our tour around Ireland, and other lads have reached out game clubs and barbecues and stuff like that, and we will get around to a couple of them. Just we're flat to the mat with this thing.

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Anthony Grogan: Yeah, it's it's and quite quickly after that. Now, dude.

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Anthony Grogan: we're we're in Hungary. And in the middle of all that Tom, over in Norfolk has just added. And this is kind of breaking news. But when we're gonna

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Anthony Grogan: do a little bit, it was a message actually, after coming through, as we're recording here. I've just seen it.

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Anthony Grogan: He's after adding a huge suite of land with roe deer to his repertoire over Norfolk, and then he's 1 of the. Obviously, we've done a trip over there in January, and

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Anthony Grogan: we're trying to to get a date to get back over to him so. And he's just after send me a picture. I'm going to throw it up on the socials there in in a short while of a beautiful road here he went up to

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Anthony Grogan: to inspect the new land, and obviously got successful quite quickly. So

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Robert Treacy: Okay. So, however, for anyone who doesn't know

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Robert Treacy: he's at again 2 2 estates

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Robert Treacy: to have raw on it. So Tom can basically offer you

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Robert Treacy: for an hour and a half away, and another hour and 20 min driving. He can nearly offer you every deer species.

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Robert Treacy: Now, actually, he can offer you all 6 deer species within his location, and very reasonable, and

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Robert Treacy: a sound fella like no messing down there, chap that which which we like.

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Robert Treacy: and so whoever is interested, I'd reach out to Tom London and tell him we sent you, and he'll look after you.

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Anthony Grogan: Absent.

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Robert Treacy: Isn't that? Isn't that true?

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Anthony Grogan: Man. He is one of the world's good gentlemens, and I mean that he's been nothing but but absolutely fantastic to us, and he's he's

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Anthony Grogan: as he says it he has. If he tells you. Yeah, come over here, I'll get you on, and he will do his utmost to get you on that animal, and

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Anthony Grogan: he's just a really really cool man, and the lads are fantastic. The guys are just really experienced guides. They're what would you call professional. I think that's just about the way to sum them up.

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Robert Treacy: We? We said it before dude. When they say 5 o'clock.

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Robert Treacy: We're not waiting on them. They're actually waiting on us, and we we do be well, some of us do be on time. But do you know what I mean? I've been to other places where you're waiting on guys to turn up. It's not the case with them. They are ready to rock when they say it already, and they have great land.

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Robert Treacy: Happy to be well worth Spain. And then on that topic the bold Janice.

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Anthony Grogan: Yes, a big shout out to Giannis, so St. Hubertus, hunting trips as you've probably seen on some of the socials Giannis is, and this is a huge news, because, like Giannis is one of them. And Ursula, they've literally literally grown up hunting so.

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Anthony Grogan: And yeah, huge shout out to to dash to St. Hubertus. Like fantastic. They're offering.

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Anthony Grogan: It guided my hunting trips in Ireland and

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Anthony Grogan: and abroad South Africa and Hungary. So anyone who doesn't know.

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Robert Treacy: Yeah, and to talk about someone who.

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Robert Treacy: while they've grown up hunting like like I've grown up hunting. I

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Robert Treacy: I I do love seeing other people hunting and getting into it, and all that. But he loves it.

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Robert Treacy: doesn't he?

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Anthony Grogan: He does man absolutely. He lives it, he lives it so.

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Robert Treacy: As I'm talking to you, Buddy, I'm at the scene, Sean and his granddad pulling up. So we're gonna have to cut this short.

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Anthony Grogan: We're going to be back on with our new, with another podcast in terms of fishing. So, Buddy, you enjoy your rest of your evening. I'm going to enjoy being back with you.

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Robert Treacy: Over. And now enjoy that. Tell Avril, I said. Thanks for cooking the barbecue for you.

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Anthony Grogan: You're more than welcome.

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Robert Treacy: Right. Go on, Taj.

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Robert Treacy: Hey! Look, boy, wait, wait! Wait! Wait!