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MariaDB Foundation CEO Kaj Arnö on Open Source Sustainability and the Role of Foundations

March 30, 2023 Matt Yonkovit & Avi Press Season 1 Episode 22
MariaDB Foundation CEO Kaj Arnö on Open Source Sustainability and the Role of Foundations
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The Hacking Open Source Business Podcast
MariaDB Foundation CEO Kaj Arnö on Open Source Sustainability and the Role of Foundations
Mar 30, 2023 Season 1 Episode 22
Matt Yonkovit & Avi Press

In this episode of the Hacking Open Source Business Podcast, Scarf CEO Avi Press and HOSS Matt Yonkovit are joined by Kaj Arnö, CEO of the MariaDB Foundation. They discuss the challenges of managing support expectations in open source projects, including balancing limited resources with important user requests, how non-profit organizations like the Wikimedia Foundation align with open-source goals, and why many organizations use open-source software but don't support it financially.

Kaj also discusses the importance of community in open source sustainability and the need for companies to sponsor or promote the software they rely on. Then also delves into the systemic problems in the open source community, the business logic and ethics of open source, and the societal issues contributing to the lack of support. 

Tune in to learn how you can help contribute to open source sustainability.

In this episode, Kaj shares some interesting takes aways, including:

  • Users of open source software expect it to be open and free, but not necessarily supported
  • Organizations that understand and prioritize open source often make reasonable requests for support
  • Balancing limited resources with important user requests can be challenging in open source projects
  • Non-profits like the Wikimedia Foundation are often aligned with open-source goals
  • Many organizations use open-source software but don't support it financially
  • Open source sustainability is dependent on sponsoring and promoting the community
  • Lack of support is a systemic problem in the open source community
  • Separating business and open source entities can lead to success in open source projects
  • Effective open source strategies involve balancing commercial goals and community values
  • Indirect metrics like website traffic and brand recognition are used to measure adoption in open source projects.


Checkout our other interviews, clips, and videos:  https://l.hosbp.com/Youtube

Don’t forget to visit the open source business community at:  https://opensourcemetrics.org/

Visit our primary sponsor, Scarf, for tools to help analyze your #opensource growth and adoption:   https://about.scarf.sh/

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#opensource #opensourcesoftware #business  #podcast 
#mariadb #OpenSource  #mariadbfoundation #foss #database #opensourcefoundation #open

Checkout our other interviews, clips, and videos: https://l.hosbp.com/Youtube

Don’t forget to visit the open-source business community at: https://opensourcebusiness.community/

Visit our primary sponsor, Scarf, for tools to help analyze your #opensource growth and adoption: https://about.scarf.sh/

Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite app:
Spotify: https://l.hosbp.com/Spotify
Apple: https://l.hosbp.com/Apple
Google: https://l.hosbp.com/Google
Buzzsprout: https://l.hosbp.com/Buzzsprout

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In this episode of the Hacking Open Source Business Podcast, Scarf CEO Avi Press and HOSS Matt Yonkovit are joined by Kaj Arnö, CEO of the MariaDB Foundation. They discuss the challenges of managing support expectations in open source projects, including balancing limited resources with important user requests, how non-profit organizations like the Wikimedia Foundation align with open-source goals, and why many organizations use open-source software but don't support it financially.

Kaj also discusses the importance of community in open source sustainability and the need for companies to sponsor or promote the software they rely on. Then also delves into the systemic problems in the open source community, the business logic and ethics of open source, and the societal issues contributing to the lack of support. 

Tune in to learn how you can help contribute to open source sustainability.

In this episode, Kaj shares some interesting takes aways, including:

  • Users of open source software expect it to be open and free, but not necessarily supported
  • Organizations that understand and prioritize open source often make reasonable requests for support
  • Balancing limited resources with important user requests can be challenging in open source projects
  • Non-profits like the Wikimedia Foundation are often aligned with open-source goals
  • Many organizations use open-source software but don't support it financially
  • Open source sustainability is dependent on sponsoring and promoting the community
  • Lack of support is a systemic problem in the open source community
  • Separating business and open source entities can lead to success in open source projects
  • Effective open source strategies involve balancing commercial goals and community values
  • Indirect metrics like website traffic and brand recognition are used to measure adoption in open source projects.


Checkout our other interviews, clips, and videos:  https://l.hosbp.com/Youtube

Don’t forget to visit the open source business community at:  https://opensourcemetrics.org/

Visit our primary sponsor, Scarf, for tools to help analyze your #opensource growth and adoption:   https://about.scarf.sh/

Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite  app:
Spotify:  https://l.hosbp.com/Spotify
Apple:     https://l.hosbp.com/Apple
Google:  https://l.hosbp.com/Google
Buzzsprout:  https://l.hosbp.com/Buzzsprout

#opensource #opensourcesoftware #business  #podcast 
#mariadb #OpenSource  #mariadbfoundation #foss #database #opensourcefoundation #open

Checkout our other interviews, clips, and videos: https://l.hosbp.com/Youtube

Don’t forget to visit the open-source business community at: https://opensourcebusiness.community/

Visit our primary sponsor, Scarf, for tools to help analyze your #opensource growth and adoption: https://about.scarf.sh/

Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite app:
Spotify: https://l.hosbp.com/Spotify
Apple: https://l.hosbp.com/Apple
Google: https://l.hosbp.com/Google
Buzzsprout: https://l.hosbp.com/Buzzsprout

Getting to Know Kaj Arno, CEO of the MariaDB Foundation
Working with sponsors of your open source project/foundation:
What sort of benefits do companies get from sponsoring an open source foundation or project?
Turning your open source project into a foundation or not for profit
Dangerous time for open source? Startups talk the talk, but don't walk the walk
Does the foundation get involved in supporting their sponsors or users business inititiaves?
Measuring the growth of the project: how the MariaDB foundation looks at adoption
Collecting and listening to community feedback:
What sort of things improve a user or contributors engagement with a project
Expectations from users and sponsors for support or help above and beyond
How do we get more companies to help contribute to and sustain critical open source projects?
MariaDB has a unique split between commercial and foundation. Is this a model you would recommend to others?
Kaj's side project with Python and data visualization
Closing Thoughts