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Real travel stories and practical guides for exploring Europe with teens, pets and curiosity.
Welcome to the getAwayZ. We’re Erin and Lisa, friends and roommates who moved from the U.S. to Europe in 2017. With Erin’s teenage son and Lisa’s dog, Rex, we’ve spent years traveling across the continent, uncovering hidden gems and navigating the quirks of life abroad.
Our podcast is all about sharing the adventures of exploring Europe, from finding dog friendly destinations to discovering activities that keep a teenager engaged. We bring you personal stories, practical travel tips, and an honest look at what it’s like to live and wander as migrants in Europe.
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Rome Travel Stories: Why We Keep Returning to the Eternal City
They say all roads lead to Rome, and somehow, ours always do. In this episode, we’re sharing the Rome we’ve come to know over multiple trips: the neighborhoods we love, the food we keep craving and the tiny details that make this city unforgettable.
From quiet mornings in Monti to late walks through Trastevere, we talk about finding the best supplì al telefono, the surprise appearance by the we Pope at the Vatican and what makes every return to Rome feel brand new.
If you’re planning your first visit or heading back for more, this episode covers where to stay, what to eat, and how to experience the city beyond the postcards.
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Y'all cleared up? Oh no. Hello and welcome back. I'm Lisa. And I'm Aaron. And this is the Getaways Podcast.
SPEAKER_00:It's been a week. We've had we've had fun visitors. We've had a lot of visitors. I've been to Dublin and Prague in the last 10 days.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So Aaron's brother and girlfriend were here, and then my sister and brother-in-law are here. So we have been being tourists for a little bit. Eating at a lot of restaurants. A lot of good food, too.
SPEAKER_00:A lot of good food, but I'm ready for some serious home-cooked food.
SPEAKER_01:Well, if you go to the city that we're going to talk about today, you don't want to cook at home. You don't. You don't ever want to cook at home. Because we're going to Rome, man. All roads lead to Rome. And all food is delicious in Rome. So we've been there between the two of us, we've been there quite a few times. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I went there once a long time ago with a guy for like a few days, but I don't remember. So I'm not going to talk about that. Well, I just did, but I'm that's as far as I'm going to go. But the first time I really went there was in 2010 when I went on a birthday trip with a friend to Capri and we went to Rome at the end of the trip for a few days. And it was we stayed at the Hassler, we had private guides to the Vatican. It was it was quite a trip.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But but when you went normal people time, was that the first time really with us?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I enjoy it more normal people time because you get to do what you want to do. You know, you're not stuck with a bunch of people doing what everybody wants to do. You know, like I'm gonna keep that in there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, it's nice, you know, both ways are nice. It's nice to have a fancy trip, and then it's nice to have a little bit more of a you know, pedestrian do what you want to do trip.
SPEAKER_00:So the first time I I would say that I really went and really like experienced Rome, that's when we went to Cortona, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's when we were there. Yeah. Christmas time, like 2016? 2015. Yeah. And so we spent, I think only like three or four days in Rome. It stayed at a really central hotel right at the base of the Spanish stepped.
SPEAKER_00:It's not there anymore. But it was a very Ralph Lorney vibe hotel.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. It was so cool. It was really nice and so easy to get around everywhere. Yes. And then the next time we went, we went with my nephew BJ, and we stayed at a fabulous Airbnb, about 15 minutes outside of the street.
SPEAKER_00:No, it was like a 40-minute train ride. Is it so far? Yeah, it was pretty far. I mean, not pretty far, but it was far. Okay. At least a half an hour in the middle of nowhere.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But we stayed, so we were out a little bit away. Easy to get on the train, but we had much more space and quiet, and we had cash then.
SPEAKER_00:So it was also just a little No, it was cash. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It was cash.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you pointed to Rex, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say the dog, but that's not the dog that was with us. It was cashy. But it was nice because we had like a lot of room. It was a big villa. Yeah. Then the next time we stayed in an Airbnb over on the other side near the Coliseum.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Which was a fine Airbnb.
SPEAKER_01:And again, it was fine for the dog too, because and plenty of places to walk that were a little quieter and a little like kind of off the beaten path. And we could walk to the Coliseum every day, which was kind of cool. And like the little park area around there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And still an easy walk to get into the center.
SPEAKER_01:For sure, for sure. And the public transportation's great.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:So, you know, you can stay, if you don't want to be like in it, you can stay on the peripheral areas and still have good access and you know be able to do things easily and and quickly.
SPEAKER_00:I liked staying there. And then our friend Katie had an apartment in the same neighborhood, but a little further, a little closer to the Coliseum. I like staying in neighborhoods like that a lot because it's more like living in Rome versus I feel like when you're in the center, you're it's like visiting Rome.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, I just don't like being, I mean, I know like when we lived in Florence, we were very much in the center, and I did like that on certain aspects, but I like being a little out and like being just kind of quiet and you know, having your like neighborhoody shops instead of like the touristy shops and that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, real grocery stores.
SPEAKER_01:It just depends on your vibe though, of what you're looking for and how much how much you want to be in it. Like if you're gonna go out at night and like you know, you want to probably be in the center. No, that's true. But we're old. We are old. And we're not afraid to admit it, damn it. All right. So should we talk about the most important thing about Rome? I mean I I'm gonna guess food. Uh you got it right.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, food in Italy, you just can't go wrong.
SPEAKER_01:No, but like Rome in particular, there's like the four pastas that are famously Roman, right? Yeah. Which I've actually never had the first one.
SPEAKER_00:I've never had Griccia either. But it's the I think it's the it's the base of the other three.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and they call it the white. Oh, what's the other one? Cacha Cacha Pepe Pepe. Yeah, that it's like that, but with guanchali added, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Okay, so Cachaya Pepe has pecorino and black pepper. Basta. Gricha has pecorino, black pepper, and guanciali. Right. Carbonara has pecorino, black pepper. Does it have black pepper? Guan chali and eggs. And then my personal favorite a macho chiana is this tomato guanchali. And I I like to put, they say to put a little chili in there. I like to put a lot of chili in it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, because it's always got a little bit of a cake. A little bit of a cake.
SPEAKER_00:That is my favorite. Yeah. So those are like the four table eggs. That's a weird thing to say. That's a weird thing to say.
SPEAKER_01:And then I don't like the next thing, but you do because I'm not a rice fan.
SPEAKER_00:I do. I love a soupli. It's kind of like an aren't, but it's more well for people who don't know what it is.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:So an arancini is like a big triangular y circular rice ball, basically, like a rice pyramid. How would you describe that?
SPEAKER_01:Is it fried? I think it's fried. They're both fried. Okay. So it's basically a rice ball that's fried, but it also has other ingredients in it. And the difference is the shape between the two things, right?
SPEAKER_00:Supli is a little smaller. Okay. And the aroncini I always get has ragu in it. Though the soupli I get usually is just like a tomato sauce and cheese. But in Rome, they have it's called soupli a telefono. And it's because of the cheese pull. When you pull the rice apart, the cheese, the cheese pull at twist, and it looks like an old-fashioned telephone cord. So from way back in the day when they had phones like that.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say Generation Z has no idea what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_00:So way back in the days when we were kids, they the telephone cords were like spirals. They're so good, and you can find them all over, but e Soupli has the best.
SPEAKER_01:Well, then it's like a street food.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Like it's something you would get, like you know, from a cart walking down the street.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. So I am gonna do a restaurant list for Rome, but I will talk about Dol Enzo 29 because I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Is it considered a tourist restaurant? I feel like foodies know it. I don't know that I don't know. I didn't go, so I don't really know.
SPEAKER_00:It is it's so good. And there's always a line. It opens at like six, I think. So we got there around probably seven, and we had to wait maybe 45 minutes. They don't take reservations. There's probably like 15 tables, maybe, but and they only serve a few things, but they serve the best carbonara in town, they serve the best of Machu Chiana, in my opinion. And it is so good. And and Dylan loved the terramisu there. It is so good. Like if there's one place you go, if you were gonna listen to me, if I was going back, Dal Enzo 29 would be my first stop. And I would go there for the first time.
SPEAKER_01:Because I had to work that night that you went to.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she did. She had tuna from the grocery store.
SPEAKER_01:Delicious. Okay, we need to talk about pizza. So Roman pizza is thin, crispy, delicious.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's my favorite kind of Italian pizza, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01:The pizza that we had in Naples, the original margarita, was not thin.
SPEAKER_00:No, because that's not Rome.
SPEAKER_01:Oh should we skip to what to do there and then come back to where to stay? Yeah. All right. So the first time that the three of us went, we did something that's ridiculously touristy and dumb, but we had so much fun. And the it's something that will always stand out in my mind as like the weirdest and funnest and stupidest thing I've ever done.
SPEAKER_00:Now, a precursor, Dylan was eight years old.
SPEAKER_01:I was not.
SPEAKER_00:Neither was I. Well, you didn't do it. I did not.
SPEAKER_01:I did not do it. But we took gladiator lessons, and it was in a little building not far from the Coliseum, but not in the actual Coliseum. And it started with a whole history and historic background of everything where we learned a lot of interesting facts and saw a lot of the like original helmets and suits and all of and weapons and all that kind of stuff. And then we went outside and we did it. We trained. We trained, we like practiced with swords, we did, we threw like javelins, we did all kinds of stuff, and it was so much fun. And I wasn't the only adult though, right?
SPEAKER_00:No, you weren't, which I kind of found odd because they did not have children.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, the other people? Mm-hmm. But yeah, it was just it was really cool and you know, yeah, like totally touristy, totally dumb, but so much fun. And I think Dylan will remember it forever.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I mean that is one of the things like we tried to always in cities do something that we wouldn't normally do, but that Dylan, when he especially when he was younger, would enjoy. But this wasn't for me. No, it was not for you, Lisa. But you did enjoy it just as much.
SPEAKER_01:But it was really competitive. You were okay. So highly recommend the Gladiator School. Oh, definitely. We've talked about this before, but Sistine Chapel and going to the Vatican, there's no question that you need to plan ahead. You need to get your front-of-the-line tickets, you need to either do like a I mean, we had a small tour. I think we were the only ones though, weren't we?
SPEAKER_00:Well, no, we went in with them and then we said, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:You don't have to stay with them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So, I mean, that's just kind of a non-negotiable thing, is that you need front-of-the-line or tour tickets to get in quickly.
SPEAKER_00:And it's worth it. It is yeah, it's what but you have like she said, you have to get those front-of-the-line tickets because people wait in line for five or six hours if they don't have to. No, the line is ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01:And then it's it is, it's one of those bucket lists, like, you know, if you someone makes any list of things you should do in your lifetime, like it's on it. So just do it smartly.
SPEAKER_00:I think that time that we all went, Yumi and Dylan, we booked the tour. I don't think we followed her with it, but she then got us in the elevator to go up to St. Peter's Basilica. It was not a cheap ticket.
SPEAKER_01:No, it was not, because we did not plan ahead, remember?
SPEAKER_00:No, it was we found that same day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And there was like a little like shop down the street, and we went and bought tickets and then went and did it. And then went to did that whole thing and then went over to St. Peter's.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Which, if you can go at Christmas, the nativity setup inside of St. Peter's Basilica is amazing. And I was trying to find pictures of it the other day. I don't know if we were allowed to take pictures because I've got nothing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, it's kind of weird because you're you are in St.
SPEAKER_00:Peter's.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah. And it's and it feels very even if you're not a religious person, it's a religious moment because you're like the way they did the lighting and everything is just it's really spectacular.
SPEAKER_00:It's beautiful. And then we went up. We climbed up to the you guys climbed up a lot faster than I did. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And it's not for the faint apart if you're going up to the to the top of the basilica. It's a not for the claustrophobic. It's a very narrow, very steep, very short. Like you like, we're not tall people, and we had to bend over at certain points to like get up the stairs. And then I will warn you, particularly for the ladies, that it takes a while to get up. And then when you get up, the bathroom situation is quite difficult. So if you can avoid it, I would.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I didn't go in there, but I heard about it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's it's very primitive. So it's just a hole, right? Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to be all classy and call it primitive.
SPEAKER_00:We're not classy.
SPEAKER_01:But the view. The view is spectacular. And I mean, if you if you're into that, it's totally worth it. Just again, be prepared. Like, this is not a walk through the park. Like it, it takes a minute. It's not the most comfortable thing in the world. And, you know, but you get a great view.
SPEAKER_00:I I wouldn't do it again, me personally.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't know that you need to. Once you've done it once, like, I don't know that you need to do it again.
SPEAKER_00:No, but sometimes I feel like when you take people to Rome, you should do it. But anybody I would take would be my brother, and he's not gonna show them the stairs and meet him after see you in a few hours.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, and then I have a very funny story about St. Peter's Basilica. Oh, oh, I know which story this is. So the time that I mentioned that we went with my nephew BJ and we stayed a little bit outside of town, we went in and we were gonna go to the basilica. So we were walking up to go inside, and there was this like big security area. And we hadn't been there in like a couple years. Yeah. So I was like, wow, it you didn't used to have to do this. Like, I wonder if it's if they've had a problem or if there's some sort of special event or anything. And we kept hearing this microphone and and this talking in the background. But you know, there was a lot of people, there was a lot of people going through security. And and I looked at my nephew and I go, watch, it's gonna be the Pope when we get in on the other side. And we get through security, and guess who was there? It was the Pope. And there weren't even that many people like sitting there listening to him.
SPEAKER_00:It was like we got the cheesy pictures of standing there putting our finger so you could the Pope, it was fun.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean, and it was just so rando funny, but like, you know, who gets to see the Pope in their lifetime?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's pretty cool. The next place we can talk about, you have never seen, it's not your cup of tea. Correct, but the Cappuccin Crips near Piazza Barberini. I found out about this place when BJ and I went into Rome at night and Lisa had a probably a work call. No, I said home with Dylan. Oh, because it was a scam. We went on a haunted walking tour of Rome and they took us there and they told us stories about it, and it was really cool. And so then I've been back. And it's it's it's so cool. There's more than 3,000 friars that are arranged in patterns. Like so the pulpit is made out of bones. There's more bones there because the the I don't know what term to use, but I'll just call them like the death doctors back during the plague. They would wear their like masks and everything, and they'd walk around town with wheelbarrows and just collect the dead, and then they would bring them back, and then they would use the bones to create this whole thing. It's fantastic if you like bones and creepy, which I do.
SPEAKER_01:You guys that was Halloween. We were close to Halloween when you did that, or when you guys did that, but when we took that trip, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:We found out a lot of scary stories. Maybe I'll do like a post. Yeah. Not not anytime soon, maybe for next Halloween.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but you guys did a whole night tour.
SPEAKER_00:So we took the train from the little town we were in into Rome, and we were running late, and we had to get a cab. I don't know if I can tell how. How is that cab ride? The cab ride was terrifying. I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong. These Italian men were great, but they they were like, we'll get you there, we'll get you there. So we had to walk from the train station around a corner into an alley to get into their car. And they sped through, they sped through past cops, past through red lights, and got us to the tour on time. But I don't know, I don't know. It was so weird. Like, why were they speeding? Why were they speeding past cops?
SPEAKER_01:So, and then I was on that tour that you were introduced to one of my favorite squares.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, Campo di Fiore.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, which is now I don't remember. Do you remember the story of the statue in the middle?
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so the statue is of a philosopher named Giordano Bruno, who was burned at the stake right there in 1600. And there's lots of like folklore about people sense weird things being watched and right, yeah. And this there's this bar that's kind of like in the gaze of it that people like to sit at.
SPEAKER_01:So if you believe in that stuff, which I'm not sure if I do or not, but I love that square because there is so many, it's like a big open-air market with like the best food, yeah. Like meats, cheeses, yeah, fruits and vegetables, flowers. And then along the perimeter are loads of fantastic restaurants. Great restaurants. Like we've eaten there several times, always at a different restaurant and always have a great meal. And it just feels so Roman. Like it's just it's so lively. It's so, you know, everybody's yelling and like having a good time, and it's it just feels like like a little, I don't know. It's just one of my favorite places. And then there's a bunch of little streets off of there that are tiny and winding that you can just kind of get lost in, definitely, which is really cool.
SPEAKER_00:Have you ever been to the Borghese Gardens? No, I don't think so. I've been there once. I I didn't spend much time there, but it's supposed to be lovely.
SPEAKER_01:So, and then obviously there's like, you know, the other staples, like the Coliseum. The Coliseum. Yeah, which I've never actually been inside.
SPEAKER_00:You haven't? No. Oh, I oh, I've been to Rome with my brother too. I went inside the Coliseum. I guess the first time and only time was with my brother and my nephew. And it's really cool just to be inside of it. It was built in 70 AD, and it once held 50,000. Can you believe that? Yeah. That long ago, 50,000 spectators. It's obviously where the gladiators fought the lions and stuff. But inside, you get a you get a good view of down below where the animals were kept. There's all sorts of different tours. Jonathan did the nighttime tour.
SPEAKER_01:Jonathan's a nighttime tour, and he didn't love it because he didn't feel like he could actually see everything. Yeah. Which I was disappointed with because I thought that would be really cool to see it at night, but it didn't, it didn't meet up to his expectations.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, it definitely it's a cool, it's a cool moment, like just walking around in there because of how old it is and all the stuff that went on, basically. Yeah, it was kind of like the center of the universe for a long time, I feel like. And then right across the street is the Roman Forum in Palatine Hill, which you've done. Didn't we do that? You haven't done that either? No, you did that with Rod, I think. So it's it's a bunch of ruins, it's really pretty. So that's literally right across the street from the Coliseum. So definitely worth doing. You can get a two for one ticket, I think. But what I should just make that up. Uh I don't think so. Two for one ticket? Well, not two for one, but you can buy visit both places in one ticket. That's what I meant. Not like a freebies. What are you doing? You track the sales? No matter what. What I will say about the Roman Forum and the Pantheon is cats are protected by law to roam freely around Rome. And they are all over the ruins. Like they there are so many cats, it's crazy. So just be on the lookout.
SPEAKER_01:It was fun walking wrecks in that general vicinity. Yeah. Okay. And then the old standby, the Trevy Fountain, which now they're gonna implement. They're gonna charge you. Yeah, and and limit how many people can come in at a time. Which I think is ness is not necessarily a bad thing because it got two bananas.
SPEAKER_00:It's what I what I will say, and it's Rome and Florence and Venice and Amsterdam. I will I feel like I've witnessed people come and just be so rude. Yeah. Not not the majority, but there are some people that just come and like the people who write on statues or yeah walk into the Trevy Fountain. It's just like that's so disrespectful. Yeah. I mean, they are also made they you're not allowed to sit on the same banished steps anymore.
SPEAKER_01:No, well, well, I mean, but that's the same thing. Like in Florence, you can't sit down and have a sandwich anymore because it it was just becoming crazy. Yeah. Like where people couldn't even walk and get through. So it it was too much. Yeah, you know, and it's not good for it's not good for anything because people aren't moving through the area, and then people there's more trash, there's more, you know, it gets dirtier, those things get worn down, like it's just becomes a big huge cycle.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So the the coin toss in the Trevy Fountain, there's a whole bunch of different ones. Yeah, I've never done any of them. Oh, I've just done the one. So if you toss one coin, you turn around and you toss it over your shoulder. Did you see that video on TikTok of the woman who chucked it over her shoulder and nailed some guy in his eyeball? So you toss it over your shoulder. Perhaps be a little closer to the water when you do that. And so you're you do one coin if you to return to Rome. You do two coins for love. There's a movie that Kristen Bell's in called I don't remember, but she went to Rome and did that and she found love. And then there Well, clearly it works then. Yes. And then you do three for marriage. So that's cool, I guess. But over a million euros a year are collected and donated to charity.
SPEAKER_01:It's like 1.3, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's bananas. That's probably why you see people trying to jump in there and grab some, grab some cash every once in a while. Yeah. So let's go back to where you should stay. Oh, wait, one more thing before we go on to places to stay and what areas and stuff. We usually do, I think we've mentioned this before, but we usually do like some sort of scavenger hunt or walking tour or some sort of thing to introduce ourselves to the city. And we did a little scavenger hunt with Dylan. We did. And in the heat. Yeah, it was hot. Which, but it's just a nice way to like see everything and kind of orient yourself with a city. And speaking of heat, all of the water fountains in Italy, but in particular in Rome, are drinkable water. Yes. So you can take your bottle with you, fill it up there, and drink as much as you can drink. But they're all fresh and clean and all over the country, but specifically all over Rome.
SPEAKER_00:But a lot of the fountains in Rome are special from any other fountain in the world. Okay. You put your thumb up on it, and then there's a hole in the spigot, and it shoots up so it comes up to mouth level. So you don't have to like bend over.
SPEAKER_01:Which, by the way, it took about 10 times the filling up bottles and drinking with our mouths under it all awkwardly before someone finally showed us that. All right. Moving on to where to stay.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so we've stayed in multiple places, as we said. So the center, the historic center, is always a good place. You're center to all the sites, everything's walkable, but you also, it's gonna be a lot of uh more tourist restaurants and stores and stuff, right?
SPEAKER_01:And probably louder.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Yeah. And then where we stayed, where we liked was Monty, the Monty area by the Coliseum. Definitely feels more family neighborhood.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's more grass, there's more, or there is grass, there's more sort of quiet walks, you know, yeah. That kind of vibe. All the regular stuff of cafes and stores and stuff, but they're just all a little bit on a smaller, yeah, more like, you know, homey scale.
SPEAKER_00:And then Praty, that's where Margarita stayed, isn't it? Right by the Vatican.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So if that's very it's still centrally located. You just walk across a bridge and you're in the center. It's probably not Vatican City, but it's right right, like right at the Vatican.
SPEAKER_01:But I mean, it again, like there's I don't think there's a particularly bad place to stay. It's just what you're looking for. I mean, you know, we're not so interested in staying in the nightlife area and and doing all that. But if that's if that's your vibe, then, you know, there's something for you too.
SPEAKER_00:Now speaking of the Vatican, fun tip. You ready? It's the smallest country in the world, and it has its own stamps. Euros, it has its own Euros?
SPEAKER_01:Is that yeah, I knew stamps, I didn't know Euros and its own passports. Yeah, I knew that too.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't know that. Well, now I want to go back to Rome. Take me back to Italy. I'll go anywhere. Yeah, same. All right, so that's that's our story about Rome. That's Rome. You should go. I mean, like, that is definitely a staple of somewhere people should always go see.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I wouldn't go for less than like four days.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no.
SPEAKER_01:Because I think that you it's a minimum of four days to like get yourself oriented, get yourself like understanding the food and what what you like and being able to try different places, seeing even just the big sites is gonna take you that long, even if you're well organized. Oh, definitely.
SPEAKER_00:Because you don't we still haven't seen everything.
SPEAKER_01:Well, no. I mean, I don't know that anybody who hasn't lived there their whole life has, but I mean it's you know, it's there's a lot to see and do, and it's not a place that you really want to kind of rush too fast through.
SPEAKER_00:No, we need to go back and go to all the restaurants Stanley Tucci went to. No, I know.
SPEAKER_01:But all right, we will keep you posted. I'm sure we will be back in Rome before too long, and maybe we'll hit you with a part two. Yeah. But that's room for now. Thanks for listening.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and check out the website www.thegatawayswith.com.
SPEAKER_01:And we'll catch you next time. Thank you.