Normandy Travel Guide: D-Day Beaches, Omaha, Utah, Pointe du Hoc & Mont Saint-Michel

This is Part 2 of our two-part series. After covering Giverny, Honfleur, Étretat and Rouen in Part 1, we head to the D-Day landing sites. The beaches, the history, and the places that make this region unlike anywhere else in France.

In this episode, we walk through Omaha Beach and the American Cemetery, Utah Beach and its museums, the craters at Pointe du Hoc, the airborne town of Sainte-Mère-Église with its famous church and we end on a high note at Mont Saint-Michel.

We share what each site is actually like to visit, what to expect, which museums are worth your time, tips for visiting with kids, and how to fit all of this into 2–3 days, whether you're adding it onto a Paris trip or making a dedicated Normandy getaway. We also have a special guest this week: Jonathan, who visited the beaches with Lisa and shares his experience seeing it all for the first time.

Whether you're a history lover, a first-time visitor, or planning a family trip to France, the D-Day beaches are an experience that stays with you long after you leave.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello and welcome back. I'm Lisa. And I'm Erin. And this is a Getaways Podcast. We have a special guest today.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Hi everyone. I'm Jonathan. I'm excited to be here.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Nice to meet you, Jonathan.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Nice to meet you all. Excited to be here on Getaways with a Z.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Gotta hit that Z.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

Jonathan. We've talked about him. He's Lisa's nephew. Megan's brother. Megan's brother.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

So it is all coming around, and you're meeting the whole family. So we are going to talk about this. We did the part one of Normandy. Today we are going to cover part two, which is the Normandy beaches. Which I've been there twice, once with Aaron and Dylan, and once with just me and Jonathan.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Specifically the D-Day beaches, correct?

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Yeah, exactly. All right. Should we dive in? Dive in. So in the D-Day beaches, like starting off with, I guess, Omaha, because that's I think that's my favorite beach.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

That's the one I think that gets the most credit for the American involvement in D-Day.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Saving private Ryan.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Is that where it was supposed to be set?

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Which it wasn't actually shot there. No, right. You guys are thinking UK, right? I think that's what it is. I thought Spain for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Might be some of Spain.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

But anyway, Omaha Beach is the American landing was there in on June 6th of 1944. And it's hard to imagine a beach that beautiful and that peaceful today was that violent at that time.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

And it is extremely peaceful today.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

And just you feel the nature, you feel the waves, you feel the wind. And it's hard to imagine that much violence and noise and destruction.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yeah. And lives lost. I mean, like just the amount of bloodshed on that beach is such a polar opposite of the feeling that you get when you are there. Yeah. I mean, in the morning that we went, Jonathan and I went, we had wrecks. We were there pretty early in the morning, like before nine, yeah. Yeah. And the it was something I'd never seen before. And that the waves were like, there was way far out, there was a wave, then there was a bit of sand, and then there was another bit of waves, and then there was a bit of sand, and then another one. So it was like three layers of beach and sand. And we were maybe one two of five people in the area.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

Yeah, there wasn't many. There was just a few people out there, and to your point, the beach stretched out quite a bit to the water. And to stand out there and think, I have to make this 500-yard, 400-yard stretch while getting shot at is just unbelievable and so inhumane.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Yeah. And at that moment, also thinking how incredibly beautiful because the sun was coming up. Like, I mean, it was a spectacular morning. And Rex was running around like a fool, like, thought he was in paradise, like running through all the water and the wet sand and chasing the ball. And like it was just such a like beautiful morning that it was just, again, such a reminder of how crazy the juxtaposition between now and then, you know?

SPEAKER_00 3:15

Right. Well, I think too being coming up in my generation and seeing kind of our introduction as millennials being saving private Ryan, it's not that. When you get there, you don't feel that it feels like a beach. Right. And nature has taken back the bunkers and everything, and it's a lot of it's overgrown. And you're like, this feels like a really nice beach.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

And then you remember I'm standing on like basically a graveyard. Yeah. And even being in the water makes you feel a little bit apprehensive, like, should I even be here? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Well, no, that's it. It's a it's it is a little bit of a hesitation of like, is this respectful? But but like you said, nature's taking it back. So it's like, and it's also important to learn all the things.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

So well, nature's taking it back, and the United States, Britain, Canada, France, all the allies forces took it back.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Yeah, no, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

So it is it is France's to enjoy again.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Yeah. Do people like go there in the in the summer and swim and stuff? Yeah. Oh, they do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I mean, we saw people swimming, and it's it's very much a recreational area, I think, now.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Yeah, and especially to the north and south of specifically Omaha Beach where the bunkers are and the monuments, you can see resorts and people with those sand, wind sand surfing things further up and down. So it has its little area of homage, does that make sense? Yeah. But just north and south of that, it does pick up as you would a regular beach.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Right, right, right. There was nobody really on the beach when you and Rex went, when Dylan and I went to the museum.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

No. Well, there was a tour actually there the morning that I was talking about. Do you remember that? There was like five people on a tour. Yeah, there there weren't a lot of people. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it's like a destination you would go as a non wanting to be to experience the D-Day aspect of it. I don't know. I don't know. But but so then right above the beach that we're talking about is the American cemetery. Which is crazy. Incredibly powerful and emotional.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

And well done.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

And well done.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

I mean, it's beautiful. It's beautiful, yeah. Our government's putting the money, well, the American government's putting money into it. Yeah. Which is good to see. Yeah. And it's well kept, well maintained.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

And it is, it's in the beginning of Private Ryan, too. Isn't that where Matt Damon's walking down? Yeah. And I mean, it is, it is, it's pristine. And the whole place is it's just, you know, when you see the number of graves, and it's it's overwhelming and emotional, and a lot of things I didn't expect to feel. And that's the third time I'd been there. I've been there three times.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Well, because when we went, you said that the first time you went, you were allowed to walk along the graves. Now you can't. You have to stay on the sidewalks. Yeah. I guess maybe if your family's there, you they you get special access or something.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah. But no, I remember kind of weaving in and out and and looking at specific names and dates and you know, but but you you cannot do that anymore. But it doesn't get less powerful the number of times you see it either. I mean, it's it still kind of takes your breath away in a lot of good and bad ways, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

So at Omaha Beach, Dylan and I, and you went to it as well, right? The Omaha Beach Museum down by the beach. That was I liked that one a lot. It's very small.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

No, that one you didn't go to. You went to the one in Utah on the beach, but the Omaha Beach is the one down that you drive down there.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Yeah. You went to the Overlord, which is by the cemetery as well. Correct. But away from the beach. Up the hill. Yeah. Dylan and I went to the one right down by the where you drive down almost to the we took you down to the beach and then turned around. It's like, it's probably like three blocks back up towards the main road, towards land. And it's it's a small museum. It took us maybe an hour. It had a lot of memorabilia, a lot of like guns and bullets, because Dylan really found liked that. And a lot of like almost interactive. Like it felt like there were rooms where it felt like you could hear the guns and you could hear the voices and stuff. It was very cool, but very small. But we enjoyed it. That was our second museum. And then you went to the Overlord, which I went into to get Dylan a sand jar and a bullet from one of the guns that they used, Keychain. But we didn't go to that museum. So what was that like?

SPEAKER_00 7:53

That was it. I think it was pretty similar. It was a lot of mannequins dressed up in uniform, American, British, and also German.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

But same kind of thing. They had the sights and sounds and kind of gives you that band of brothers or saving private Ryan feel inside the museum. I will say, when you go to Omaha Beach, if you're expecting to see the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan, it's not it. Like those bunkers weren't in that part of the beach. Nature's taking it back. Like, don't go there expecting that opening scene. But those museums do kind of lend more of that feel. Yeah. Um, to where it kind of especially people my age that kind of grew up with video games and stuff, and it not to bring it all back to entertainment because it shouldn't be entertainment, but it's the way to get people to pay attention. It is.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

And the way to teach people on a certain level, you know. I mean, it like you said, it was your introduction to World War II in a weird way, and like that there's there's a reason for that, and that makes it memorable and consumable, you know, so that then you do want to go visit places like that and learn more about it. So I don't think, I mean, coming from somebody in energy, I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Okay, so then if you're leaving the over Overlord? Is that what it's called? The Overlord Museum, just down the street is a place called Point de Hoch, and that is crater park. Yeah, and it that's literally what it is. And and it's so funny because now I notice them everywhere. Like I said, we were driving the other day in where were we? Maybe on the way home from Sweden. Oh, yeah. And I was like, is that a crater for like from a bomb? It was in Germany, yeah. It was in Germany, yeah. But like it's so distinctive when you then know what you're looking at, right? Yeah, but describe you did you didn't go.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Did no, I sat in the car with Rex because dogs aren't allowed there. Did we find that park from that podcast that we listened to when we were driving to Point Aha? I think we did, but I don't remember what podcast it was.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Do you no?

SPEAKER_02 10:03

But I'll find it. I'll find it because it was a really good podcast. It was some it was a veteran, right? Him and his dad came over and yes, and I think his dad serves, didn't he?

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Yeah. That was the first time that he had been there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

So I'll find that podcast and put it in the post whenever this goes up at some point during the week because that gave us a lot of information and we kind of planned all of our beach and museums around that podcast.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

And we hope that you will do the same after you listen to this podcast. So yeah, point to hawk. I stayed in the car because dogs are not allowed. So yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

So Dylan and I walked around and then Jonathan, you walked around.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

I walked around for a while. You correct. It was the point where the U.S. Army Rangers scaled that big cliff to get to the top. Just unbelievable. And then you do, you see, it's almost like you would expect like a moon. Yeah. Like a moon surface. It's just these giant craters that are 80 years old but still have such an impact. And the bunkers and everything up there.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Yeah, tons of bunkers. But the the thing that's weird to me, and it it goes back to what you said earlier about nature taking it back, but they're all green.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

And you and it's like part of me was like, but these were bombs. Like, how can anything still live and grow and be there? But it's, I mean, it can be lush and green and like just have these enormous indentations of destruction. Like it's such a weird thing. Do you have to pay to go in there? No. There's a museum there too. Did you did you go? You went through real quick, I think. I think we went to the bathroom there.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

But I remember it being a little bit, it wasn't unkept, but you had to be certain areas you had to be careful where you were stepping. Yeah. Especially if you're going in and out of the bunkers and there was there's water in there just from rain and the weather. So I think maybe the no dogs is something to do with just the ground service. There were areas where you walked across metal plates and and that like grid.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

Like safety purposes, maybe. Can you walk down into the craters? Into the craters? No. But you can go into a few of the bunkers. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Bunkers and the anti-aircraft.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

So from there, then Utah.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

But Utah Beach was interesting. The museum was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

That was our first the first place we went. Right. Was Utah Beach. And so we went down on the beach with you at the very beginning, and then Dylan and I went up to the museum. To the museum, which is really cool. It was more like vehicles and airplanes.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Yeah, I felt like it was more aviation-based than anything. And flags and different troops and divisions and all that.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

But that was our first stop. And so Dylan found there, you can buy empty jars that has the name of the beach on it that you go down and you put sand in it. And so he that he did that. He got that for Omaha and Utah. But at the Utah Beach, we came back down after, and Dylan was dead set on just digging around. He's sure he was going to find an artifact from the war. Remember, he's like, there's got to be a ring or a bullet or something around here.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Well, he was a lot more affected by that part of the trip than I anticipated. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

I didn't think he was going to enjoy it at all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

And he really did. I mean, he was he was fascinated by understanding what happened and why and how.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Because the museums do such a good job with that.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Because he didn't learn, because we left America in when he was in third grade. So he hadn't learned anything about the wars then. Right. And then I don't even know if that he learned about it in Italy. Well, it's gonna be. And he didn't learn about it here. Yeah. So yeah. So that was really his first entree into learning about all of it.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

It's called a hands-on education people. And there's a little cafe there too. So you can you could spend really an afternoon at Utah and have you know be able to really kind of take your time and go to the beach and have lunch and go to the museum.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

All right, we moving on. Yeah. San Maregali's.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

That was my favorite. That's my the town. That's that's the church, right? Yeah. And so there's this church in this town. What's the town called? That's the name of the church.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

I mean, that's the church in the church. That's the name of the, I think it's San Mare. And then the Eglise is the church.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

So in this town, it's where all the airborne people flew into, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

And there's this big church in the center of the town. And I don't know if it's a true story. I think it is. I read it in several sources when we were we were arriving there. One of the parabroopers? Troopers, is that what they're called? Yeah. Got stuck on the chapel with his his parachute. Parachute. Did he die? No, he pretended to be dead so that everybody would leave him alone. Yeah, yeah. So now the church has a a mannequin, a replica, up there all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

And they have the stained glass with uh, I think believe Mary. And on either side of Mary or two paratroopers.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Oh, really? Oh, I didn't know that was the shirt.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Oh, I didn't, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Yeah, no, we went into the super interesting.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Yeah. The town is super cute. And when we were there, there was also a big market. I think it was there when we were there too, was it? I don't think so now. But big open air market. We like got sausage from a little stand and like great sausages. Oh, because yeah, because we had a hard time finding food. Yeah. Rex and I explored everywhere, and it was a really, really cute town. But then you guys went to the airborne museum. Did you go to the airborne museum?

SPEAKER_00 15:29

I did.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Yeah, that was that was a good museum.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

Airborne museum was a very good museum. Yeah. You could walk inside one of the planes that the paratroopers jumped out of. Kind of similar to the over Lord and the Omaha museum.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Yeah, so it's very like tactile and like you feel like you're there. But it's dedicated to the U.S. airborne divisions, and it's the focus is on the paratrooper drop before the dawn of June 6th. So I guess June 6th was the day. Okay. That was D-Day.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

That was D-Day. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Yeah. But I will say that separately, the three of you said that the airborne museum was the your favorite thing. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

But you know what's not on our list here that I forgot to put is you went to the German cemetery.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

The German cemetery, that's right. Yeah. Different feel. A lot of the same people that were at the other cemetery were there, kind of people history people looking to see what that was.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

What was it? Why is there a German cemetery?

SPEAKER_00 16:28

So that's what's interesting. They have an agreement. Certain countries in Europe, France and Germany are a pair of them, where they agree to based off what I read, they agree to bury each other's dead or have a s cemetery for the other countries dead in certain areas. It sounded like it was dating back from World War One when they had those rules between themselves. It doesn't sound like Russia participated with Germany in those rules, but that was a although the same war, a different conflict in a way.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

It's very civilized.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

I mean, because you would you think, especially back then, that people would be so mad still that they wouldn't want to honor the other countries dead.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Right. Yeah. That's what that's what I would think. Why would you want them in your land? Get rid of them. But going through that museum, you found that they're they're the devils you think that are there, are there, and that museum shows them and talks about them. And then there's a lot of people that are buried there who were fighting for the Germans who were from other parts of the world, other parts of Europe, Eastern Europe, that maybe joined the German Nazi Party not really realizing what they were getting into, or were forced to do that more than likely when they took over their area in Eastern Europe. So it can get a little complex, but it's not nearly as grand or as impressive, obviously, as the American uh cemetery.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

It's much darker. I didn't go in, but but Rex and I walked in front and the the gravestones that's what they're called, right? Tomb gravestones. And uh in the American are all white. Why either white crosses? Marble, I believe. Or yeah, or Star of David for the Jewish people that fought. Oh, they're I didn't know that. Oh yeah. You go to the German cemetery and the tombstones were I don't know what they were made of because I didn't get that close, but they're quite dark.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

They're yeah, they're very dark and double-sided. But I would say that the German cemetery is worth a visit. If you're into the history and you're into the history of World War II, I would say it's worth a visit. It's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

All right. So should we switch gears entirely? So Mont Saint-Michel, which is at the very tail southern end of Normandy. And you've all seen it. It is it is the Instagrammable most perfect. Yeah. I mean, it is and the abbey on top of the it was an old monastery and then a prison, but it's from the eighth century.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

And it is well, that means the 700s.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Yeah. And it is it is a hundred percent worth a visit. It was a prison during the French Revolution. Did you know that? Well, I just said it. So yes, okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

I was like, wait a second. Try not to be getting confused over here.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

I guess I can't read and listen. Those headphones on. I'm gonna take them off.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

I can believe it, in fact. So it is basically like one tiny little walkway pathway going up. And then it ends at the abbey, which is the building up at the top, which we toured.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

It's it's a hefty hike. It's it's a lot of uphill. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

It's it's crowded. It's crowded. It can get very crowded.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

We we fueled our body with some. I don't think we had galettes there. I don't know what we have. I did. You did? Yeah. With some food and some really good cider. Some amazing cigarettes.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

To make it up to the top. I know you like your cider.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Oh, it's good. It's so good. But okay, so Jonathan and I took the tour of the Abbey with the audio tour, which the tickets were 11 and the audio tour was three each, but there was a ginormous line. That's why we never did it the first time. And we could bypass, didn't we bypass all that whole big line when we went in?

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yeah, we passed the whole line. I don't know how. We have front of the line passes.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah, I bought tickets before, knowing that it was going to be a long one. So it was a front-of-the-line pass, basically. Well, I don't know. I think we just could walk up to like get in because the other people were waiting to buy tickets. Okay. And I'm still convinced Derek McCormick, who's an actor and an Irish actor, I'm pretty sure is the one who does the voice record for the audio show. Do you remember that? And I was like, this is the guy from Bad Sisters. So Derek, I've lifted it up and I can't find it. But I'm convinced that that's him. But anyway, I digress. But it is the tour is really worth it, I think, if you buy your tickets in advance and you don't have to wait in the mile-long line. You agree? Is it pretty interesting?

SPEAKER_00 20:58

The number one tip from Getaways with a Z is get a front of the line pass.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Front of the line passes everywhere. It is worth it. You will waste away your vacation in lines.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

Yeah, no, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

In the on-season in Europe without it.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

But yes, definitely worth it. It's beautiful. It's interesting. You have a fantastic view from up there of like out some of the little balconies of the whole area. You go in the church. You go in the building. It's not a church. It's an abbey. Right? I mean, what's the difference? Yeah, I don't know. But it wasn't a church. Because there was like housing and it was all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

I believe it was a prison at one point.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

There's no way of knowing. There, every inch of that place was interesting. Yeah. From the abbey to the roads going up to the poop chutes.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

It was all kinds of things. Did you guys walk like we walked on the outside to come back down, or did you walk down the main road?

SPEAKER_01 21:57

No, we we kind of cut in and out and went all over.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

It's super cool. And we could have spent the whole day there.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

And we should say this. Okay, so getting there, we stayed, Donovan and I stayed at Little Airbnb very, very close. It was what, like a five or ten minute drive.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

And then, but you park, there's not a whole lot of housing around there, but if you can find it, great. But there's a parking lot at the end, and then you either take shuttle from there to the base of Mont Saint-Michel, right? Or you can walk. But the walk, walk is a good long way.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

The walk walking it is further than it looks. Yeah. It can be a little warm and a little ripe in the shovel, in the shuttle.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

Oh, both of those things. Both of those things.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

But the walk is long, but it's beautiful too. It's yeah, it's an interesting walk.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

But yeah, so but just be prepared that it's not like you park right outside and walk up. Like it takes you a hot minute to get to the actual base of it.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

It's so worth it.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

And it can be very weathery.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

It was very windy.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Very windy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Because it's right on the Atlantic Ocean.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yeah, but that was one of my favorite things. We were trying to take a selfie with Dylan, and his hair is like in my face now. But no question, is it worth it? Like it is a hundred percent worth it. Just like everything else, you just got to plan accordingly. Like, if you want to go in the Abbey, buy your tickets in advance, be prepared for there to be a lot of people in front of you as you're walking up the path. But there's tons of like cute, adorable, delicious restaurants going up, tons of souvenir shops, tons of like artsy shops. And none of these places that we're talking about were like expensive. All these museums are nominal fees. And like I said, getting into the Abbey was like 11 euro. Like you're spending the money on your lodging and your car rental because you need a car. Unless you're on a tour, you need to be renting a car.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

And you can really do all this in two days if you wanted to. And so it could just be a little add-on to like a Paris trip or the other part of Normandy trip, which is super special. Or Brittany. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Yeah, which there's a lot of areas of Brittany and just that whole, you know, northern part of France. Like there's so much to do. So yeah, I mean, you could certainly do it in two to three days and and have plenty of time to go shopping. I would say though that I planned this with both of you guys. Yes. And that we ended with Monsieur Michel because you end on sort of a little bit of a higher note instead of starting happy and ending a little sadder. Right.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

It was funny though, because after going to all the beaches, I don't think any of us felt sad.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

No, but there is sort of you are sort of bombarded with pain and violence. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Yeah, an emotion. Similar to if you've ever been to the Pearl Harbor. Yeah. Yes. In Hawaii. Kind of a heavy, a heavy feeling. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that was that's a good place to end, is Mont Saint Michel, because you do get kind of a medieval vibe from there.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

It's a bit of a palate cleanser, right? I mean it kind of like lifts lifts the spirits a bit.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Yeah. And you know what else if you just keep drinking some apple cider while you're there? Yeah. Lifts the spirits anyway.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Nothing can ever be bad as long as you have a little spirit.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

All right. Thanks for joining us, Jonathan. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Well, it's always exciting to be here on getaways with a Z.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

I'm gonna tell you something. We're setting up where we can do this by phone.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

And so maybe you can join us for the Super Luxembourg edition.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

All right. Sounds good. Coming to you soon.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

We're going tomorrow. All right. Well, thanks for listening. Check out the oh, you want to do it?

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The getaways with a Z.

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Oh, oh, oh. That's T H E Getaways with a Z.com.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

See you next week. Thanks. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Bye.