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Dubrovnik Travel Guide for Beaches Walls and Islands
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Dubrovnik is stunning, but it’s not the effortless postcard people imagine. We’re fresh off a rough stretch of sickness and finally back behind the mic to unpack what Dubrovnik, Croatia actually feels like on the ground: steep cliffside neighborhoods, relentless summer heat, and the kind of views that make you forget your legs are shaking from the stairs.
We walk through our full travel logistics, from taking the Ancona to Split ferry during the COVID era to sitting for hours in blazing heat at immigration, then driving south through the strange little Bosnia and Herzegovina corridor that splits the Croatian coast. Once we land in Dubrovnik, we get specific about where to stay near Old Town, how to navigate the elevation, and why walking can be exhausting but also the best way to see the city.
Then we hit the Dubrovnik essentials: an Old Town tour that pairs fairytale architecture with visible war scars, the Dubrovnik city walls walk at the crack of dawn, and how cruise ship crowds can flip the experience from calm to chaotic. We also share our favorite escapes, including a Lokrum Island day trip, a private boat day with swim stops and lunch on Lopud, and beach notes from rocky shores to the dramatic cliff-access Pasjaca Beach. Along the way: seafood, ice cream, and the Bosnian favorite Taj Mahal, plus a haunted night tour that ended up being one of our most memorable nights.
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Welcome Back After The Plague
SPEAKER_01Hello and welcome back.
SPEAKER_00I'm Lisa. And I'm Aaron. And this is the Getaways Podcast. Okay, the plague has finally lifted. It's been a minute. I got sick and then lost my voice.
SPEAKER_02And then Lisa got sick and then I had a little surgery. So it was like we've just been housebound for a long time and no appropriate voice for you guys to listen to.
SPEAKER_00So we were pretending like it was spring break, but it wasn't. The plague had just landed.
SPEAKER_02It was a terrible spring break, in fact, because we couldn't do anything.
SPEAKER_00But we horrible. Yeah. No, no good. It's Easter Monday here in the Netherlands right now. So happy past Easter for everybody.
SPEAKER_02Which is a holiday across most of Europe. So it's sort of nice to have that extra day of the weekend.
SPEAKER_00Yes. So today we're going to talk about on the website. One of the most clicked posts that we have is Croatia. Oh yeah? Yeah. Well, the best beach is in Croatia. And we're only going to cover Dubrovnik today, but people seem interested in Croatia.
SPEAKER_02And especially after the Game of Thrones phenomenon, they shot a lot of it in Dubrovnik. They did. And surrounding areas. They did. So we were there.
SPEAKER_002021.
SPEAKER_02Okay. So that was still like a COVID summer.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. We were wearing masks. Yeah. Like as soon as we start talking about how we got there, maybe you're reminded how COVID-y it was.
Overnight Ferry And Covid Testing
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, all right. So you want to start with how we got there?
SPEAKER_00So we spent the first week in Puglia, which we've talked about. And then we drove up to Ancana in kind of up the coast from Puglia in like Marque, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_00And took a ferry from Ancana to Split. And it was peak, not peak COVID, but we had been in more lockdowns in 2021. And so they were taking, I believe they were taking temperatures, weren't they? At the port. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They weren't doing COVID tests, but they were taking temperatures. And Dylan got really sick the night before we were supposed to go, remember? Like flewy.
SPEAKER_01No, you did have to take a COVID test, remember? Because we went and you had to have a negative test to get on because we had to go to that weird place, like at the port and get to no, I remember that.
Heat And Long Lines In Split
SPEAKER_00I just thought it was it was temperatures. It was COVID tests. It was COVID tests. We would have never gotten on had he had COVID. But when we got to the port, he just he looked poorly. Such a 1920s thing to say. And so we all were fine. We got on the boat. Dylan didn't leave the room. He stayed in the cabin the whole time. Yeah, on the boat. And then we just took an overnight ferry over to Split. And then when we got to Split, because Croatia was not part of the Shagan, is it now? I think it might be, but I'm not 100% sure. The line, once we got in our car and off the boat, which is always a stressful thing, the line to go through immigration was so long. Like we were in line for like two or three hours.
SPEAKER_02And what they well, what you don't think about is that when you get off the boat and you have to wait like that, it was like hotter than the center of the sun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And you don't think that you're gonna need a full tank of gas the second you get off the boat just to get into the country to be able to get gas. Like it was, but we sat there for hours.
SPEAKER_00Hours. Hours. It was not fun. It was not fun. And so then once we finally got through there, it was a pretty easy drive down to Dubrovnik. I think it was what, like two and a half hours?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you have to go through Bosnia and Herzegovania.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So what's interesting about like at the war in the 90s when they split up the land, Bosnia wanted Herzegovania wanted a bit of beach. So they gave they negotiated a bit of beach. Like a mile. Right smack dab in the middle of the Croatian, what was the Croatian coast? So you go Croatia, da-da-da-da-da, Bosnia. Then back into Croatia. And like it's kind of just the weirdest thing.
SPEAKER_00It's like it really isolates Dubrovnik when you think about it though. And remember, Katie wanted to stamp so badly in Bosnia, but they don't, they didn't do it. They didn't do it.
SPEAKER_02Croatia did it. But they we got stamped going into Croatia, but not into Bosnia.
SPEAKER_00So then once you get into the little area past Bosnia, on the way into Dubrovnik, we were kind of on a mountain road, not a mountain road, like a cliff kind of. And remember there were fruit stands on both sides of the road all the way down the like really elaborate road.
SPEAKER_02Elaborate, like trucks pull in, but they have like you know, like coconut fountains. Yeah, I mean it was but we went through quite a bit of the countryside right there because there was a lot of farmland and stuff. But a very nice drive and an easy and a nice way to kind of see a little bit of the countryside.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's really beautiful. Yeah. So then we got into Dubrovnik.
SPEAKER_02Dubrovnik, yeah, which is so like most European cities, there's the old town and then there's sort of the surrounding areas. So we stayed just and the old town is surrounded by city walls. And that is old town. I mean Old Town. Yeah, and and we'll come back to that. But we stayed just a a few blocks away from Old Town. But the whole on a cliff. The whole city is built on a cliff, really. I mean, there are except for the old town, because that's down below. But even still, you have to take stairs from the top of the walls to get down to like the base of Old Town. Yeah. But the there's staircases probably every hundred meters that go all the way from sea level to the top of the city, really. So like our Oh, like where we were.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So our Airbnb was probably five or six staircases from sea level. It was high. Yeah. But I mean, everything was. I mean, there was no unless you literally just went straight out your door and and parallel to the sea, you had to go up or down. Yeah, yeah. So like it was and it was hot. Yeah. So walking wrecks was like having a, you know, climbing a mountain every day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. If you stayed outside of the old town and not on the cliffs where we were, like if you stayed in the newest part of the city, you could drive and there's a parking lot down right by the walls, and so there's no stairs.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You just walk by that that place where they used to quarantine plague victims and go right into the woods.
SPEAKER_02Which that place is funny because we were just coming off COVID. Yeah. But that was like the original plague, like the Black Plague, is where they housed people that were sick, but they have since turned it into a club.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, and a and a like a tourism shop. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So it's kind of interesting. But I like walking around. I mean, I know it's exhausting because there were so many stairs and stuff, but you get to see so much more when you're just walking around there.
SPEAKER_00Yes. And getting down, I I never mind it bothered that. That was not a bothering. It was easy, steep, but it was easy. And then once we got down to the main road, we walked past Banja Beach. Was it Banja Beach? Yeah. And right into the city. Yeah. Which was great. Now coming home was always dreadful. Yeah. It's a lot of stairs.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Just be prepared. It's not really that bad, but you just just should be prepared.
SPEAKER_00Getting to any of the beaches stairs.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean it's it's a it's an active city. Like you you can't be you can't have very many.
SPEAKER_00Correct. It's just something to keep in mind.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. All right. So should we talk about downtown, about Old Town?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So Katie and I took a tour, like then first morning we met the guide, I think, at like 8 a.m. or something ridiculous. And she took us on a full tour of Old Town, which is absolutely beautiful, and it's right on the sea, and it's just beautiful. But what she sort of concentrated on was a lot of the war and like tell explaining to us what happened. And we'd literally be walking by the most beautiful buildings, and she'd be like, Look, and she would point out you could see just bullet holes like all around the sides of the buildings. That was recent. I mean, it was in the 90s, yeah, like late 80s and 90s. So, you know, that was sort of an interesting thing because it it's got so much history going back, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years, and also, you know, in our lifetimes of destruction and change, and you know, even talking about the borders changing. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's still a very much alive and evolving place. Yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_00I will make a I preface this by saying because it was still COVID, cruise ships were still banned from coming in. So we got very lucky on this trip.
SPEAKER_02Yes, because we heard from a lot of people that cruise ships really kind of invade and overtake the city. So much so that we heard from like two restaurant owners, remember, that they wouldn't let cruise people come in and even use the bathrooms. Yeah. Which I can understand. But as you're if you're a cruiser, what the heck do you do? I mean, because there's not really like that many public places to go, you know.
SPEAKER_00The cruise companies, they've like really like tried to capitalize every dollar they can, and they're bringing in too many people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, and and it was definitely like I felt like people were relaxed because they weren't there.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it was it was the perfect time to be there. It was so nice and not crowded.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But Old Town is really, really, really beautiful. There's tons of great restaurants, there's open air markets, there's like I said, there's a lot of Game of Thrones stuff. If that's your world, it is not ours, but there are specific tours for it, there are shops for it, there's all kinds of things. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's a tiny, tiny, tiny old town.
City Walls Walk And Icy Coffee
SPEAKER_02Tiny, tiny, yeah. And then, like I said before, the whole old town is surrounded by the walls. Which we did the next day.
SPEAKER_00Which we could actually take wrecks. We did take wrecks. We went very early in the morning because it was very hot and there's no shade on that from the top of the walls. You're literally walking on top of the walls, and they've got some little restaurants up there and some like guard gates that you can go into, but you're just literally walking around the city. Yeah. And it was really cool.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's a really nice way to get a bird's eye view of the sea and the coastline and the city. I mean, it's just kind of a perspective that you wouldn't get on any other way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And if you do do that, there's this place over on the ocean side of the wall that serves coffee drinks, and they have this coffee drink that's just full of ice cream. It was the best thing I've ever had. Yeah, well, plus it was like, I mean, we keep saying it was hot, but I mean, it was hot.
SPEAKER_02It was, you know, in Fahrenheit, it was probably like 110, 100, yeah. And it was brutal even at the crack of dawn when we went to do the walls. So it was just kind of like the perfect, the perfect way to end the two-hour walk around the walls before heading to the beach.
Lokrum Island Scavenger Hunt
SPEAKER_00It was. So do you want to go to beaches or do you want to go to I Islands next? We can go to the island because that's right there. Okay. We had we went to two different islands on this trip. We went to Locrum Island, which is a just a what, a 30-minute ferry ride from Dubrovnik, old old town. And you can see it from our house. You could our house, if you sat out on the balcony, which we had a great Airbnb with a like a cold plunge pool. It wasn't supposed to be. It was supposed to be a hot tub, but we made it a cold plunge pool. And you could see Dubrovnik, old the old city, and then you could see Locrum Island. So it was like the views were crazy. Yeah. And so you catch a ferry down in like in a port by the city walls, and it's like a 30-minute ferry across to this island, and it's a not a big island. We walked around the entire thing. There are peacocks everywhere. I remember that.
SPEAKER_02Well, we went there because we did we signed up for like a scavenger hunt kind of thing.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_02And so we met this woman and she gave us this like list of clues, and we just kind of got to then follow them and explore the whole island. And there were there was a lake in the I mean, it was beautiful.
SPEAKER_00It was beautiful, so many beautiful beaches. I mean, I wouldn't say beaches, places where you could climb down to the ocean. Yeah. But they were packed, and not packed, but they were they were people were there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But but there was restaurants on the island, and we ended up having lunch there. We did before we came back. But I mean, there was gardens, there was but there was that big like museum house-y kind of thing with the gardens all around it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And then they had one of the original from the Game of Thrones thrones there. Remember, don't take a picture in the film.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So just like, you know, you wouldn't want to spend days there. I don't even think there's a hotel to spend the night there. There might be.
SPEAKER_00We spent a couple hours there.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, I mean it's like an afternoon, you know, where you can go have a nice walk around. We actually got lost, remember that? We did.
SPEAKER_00Which I don't know how because it's not that we did get lost.
SPEAKER_02But you could have a nice lunch. And it's also just nice to get out on a boat and sort of get off the mainland and see a little bit of island life.
SPEAKER_00Now we did that and which was great, but for other people that like have other interests, Katie did not go with us, she went scuba diving to shipwreck and had a great time. So that's something else we don't do. But like if you are into that, there's a lot of good scuba diving there.
Boat Day Swims And Lopud Lunch
SPEAKER_02Yeah. All right. And then our boat day, we went to another island.
SPEAKER_00Yes. On our boat day, we went to an island called Lopood. Lopud. It was it was a boat day, and that was just a stop where we stopped. We stopped a lot of swims, but he took us to this island for lunch.
SPEAKER_02Well, so we rented a boat just for us. Yeah, just for the half day. Four of us. Yeah, but it was only like a hundred bucks or something stupid, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But anyway, yeah, it was just us a little speed boat, like and our own guy just kind of took us around.
SPEAKER_00So he took us around, we stopped for some swims, and then he took us to Low Pood Island, which is a very small island. I there's no cars on it, correct? And so I just remember we were pulling up. We had he couldn't get us all the way to the island, obviously. It's a boat. So he got us as close as he could, and then we had to swim in, but we all had our phones and we were trying to figure out how to maneuver with our phones. And as we're pulling up, there was just a naked man, nudie, just nudie or standing on the rocks. I don't even know how we got out there. We see a lot of naked men in Croatia. Yeah. Remember Pog Island? Yeah, no, definitely.
SPEAKER_02Um, which is all like all good. It was just surprising because we were like, you know, trying to manage our like holding our hands like way above our heads, like trying to waddle through the water, and all of a sudden, well, hello there.
SPEAKER_00So this beach is a was a sandy beach. Yeah, one of the only, yeah. So rare in Croatia. And so it was a sandy beach. It was lovely. We didn't really spend a lot of time on the beach. We went to this like beach cafe, which was so amazing. Yeah, we had good food there. We did, and we just ate and then we left.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, because we still had the boat and like wreck and it was on the clock.
SPEAKER_00To go back to yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So it was just kind of like getting to explore. But the beach, the sand was like white, fine sand.
SPEAKER_00And I think the only way there is getting a private boat to take you there.
SPEAKER_02But most of the beaches in the Dubrovnik area are rocky, which is small pebbles. Well, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, not sand. Yeah. But I mean, which is kind of a blessing and a curse because it kills your feet so much to walk on them, but it also uh lets the water be crystal clear because there's nothing getting kicked up. Yeah. So you definitely have to wear water shoes, but it's worth it. So then closer to or on the mainland, like from Dubrovnik, we've got we went to Banyer Beach a lot.
SPEAKER_00That was the main one that you could just see the old town.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, where you just went down, down and it's you're there.
SPEAKER_00That's the only one that I went to in Dubrovnik from our house.
SPEAKER_02Right. And then there's the one that's You went to Plaza Beach. Yeah, which is just on the outer. A little bit further away. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's a lot of steps to get down to that one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Which is why I went alone.
Rocky Beaches And Pasjaca Payoff
SPEAKER_00Yes. And then the Peace de Resistance, did I say that right? Yeah. Okay. Was we had to drive, what was what, like 40 minutes, 30 minutes?
SPEAKER_0230 minutes south, yeah. It's called throw that down, would you?
SPEAKER_00Basyaka. Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_02That was like a kind of a strange accent, but I'm gonna go with it.
SPEAKER_00Basyaka beach. And it's you park in this like dirt lot, and then you're like, where do we go? Where do we go? And you have to hug a cliff, and it is the longest, steepest walk down to this beach. Then you get to like the steepest staircases ever.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think I've told this story before, but this is where that guy, because I had just was still getting used to my hip, my new because I had a hip replacement, and I was still getting used to it. There was nowhere really to hold on. So some strange man just had to kind of catch me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh yeah. We did talk about this on the Croatian Beach episode. Yeah. But it, I mean, like when I say you're hugging a cliff, like it is a cliff walk. Like it is a I'm afraid of height, so it it was a little, it was a little getting there down to the beach freaked me out a little bit. I would I I motored through, but I couldn't talk to anybody. It was a moment. And getting back, I was like, oh, this is really gonna suck. But it getting back up and getting to the car, like it felt like it took two minutes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, the thing is when you're going down to you don't you can't really see where you're going. Yeah. So it just feels like you're kind of meandering and unsafe for a really long time with no payoff. And then when you make that last turn and you almost fall down the last set of stairs, yeah, then you're like, oh my gosh, this was so worth it.
SPEAKER_00And I think I may have said this in the Croatian Beaches podcast episode, but when we were standing at the top looking down before we started to descend the staircase, I was like, what the heck happens if some somebody gets hurt down here? There is other than boat, there is no way to get there.
SPEAKER_02Or helicopter and like airless. Where were they gonna you just drop? You drop something and put them on that stretcher.
SPEAKER_00It is so as we're down there and Lisa and Katie decide they're gonna try to swim to Montenegro. I'm just sitting there going, I hope they make it back because there's no help coming.
SPEAKER_02Katie and I are both very good swimmers.
SPEAKER_00But was there cliff jumping? No, that was that wasn't there. It was it's like so beautiful. There's pictures up on on our website. It's it's just hard to explain because you literally, when you're walking around the cliff, you all of a sudden that you can see below you the beach opens up and you're just like, oh yeah, and there's like a little river behind it. It's so nice.
Seafood Ice Cream And Bosnian Takeout
SPEAKER_02I mean, all of the beaches that we went to near Dubrovnik and in Croatia in general are are pretty spectacular. I mean, there's a reason why tourism has spiked and cruise chips go there, and it's because both land and sea are pretty phenomenal. And I mean the the old town, you know, like I said, there's great shopping, there's great restaurants. We had really nice seafood. Oh, we had great muscles. Yeah, I think we all know how much I love muscles. Yeah, I mean, like they do the nice like aperitivo situation. You know what's funny? And I I was thinking about this when I knew we were gonna do the podcast. Do you remember the thing that and now it's one of Katie's like staple foods, but she said over and over and over again about the food in Croatia that the chicken was exceptionally good.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the chicken was really good. It was really good, and when we get to split, we've got a funny chicken story. But it was really good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean it you know that's a weird thing to say, but it was there's just something different about it there. I don't know what they do, but it's just different.
SPEAKER_00Their grocery stores are really good, really good, yeah. Yeah, it's it's such a special place, but we tried to go back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, like I said, the seafood is really great. The all the ice cream is also really great.
SPEAKER_00Ice cream is great, yeah. But we actually had Bosnian food. Taj Mahal. Taj Mahal in old the old town of Dubrovnik. We brought it home. We did take out, yeah. Um, but it is it's famous. Like everybody told us to try there. Yeah. But it is the Bosnian food is so good.
SPEAKER_02And such a weird name for Bosnian food. But ignore that and just order because it's really, really good.
SPEAKER_00And and that's the only place I can remember the name of, and the only meal that really in Dubrovnik, everything was good, but that meal was Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We went to another place that was on the opposite side of like the beach for like where I would walk Rex, that park that you and Katie went to.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
Haunted Tour And Crowd Timing
SPEAKER_00I it's on our blog on my blog post about Dubrovnik. I didn't write it down. Okay. It's good. It's got like cute fancy drinks, and it's got like a little like terrace that overlooks the city. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I did have well, I found them because we did that haunted tour.
SPEAKER_00Yes, which we should talk about really quick. We did do a haunted tour at night.
SPEAKER_02At night, yeah. But it was really cool. Yeah, it was kind of this woman in like she was almost wearing a black tape or something. Yeah. And she took us through the cemetery and she told us like all of these stories about things that happened there, and and then took us into kind of this party tour, a sanit sanitarium, too, right?
SPEAKER_00Like a mental, like a little mental.
SPEAKER_02Like we walked by like a little mental. I may have gone to my special place while she was talking about that. But then we like came across the street to the seaside and went through this like foresty park. Uh-huh. And it was a little creepy because it was night, and she was talking, you know, in her woo-based.
SPEAKER_00There were all these battles back in the way in the your wouldn't happen.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, but that during the day is actually where I would walk Rex because it was a beautiful park. It had absolutely spectacular views of the sea. I mean, you're so far up on these cliffs and you look down and you can see the sea floor. Like it's ridiculous. But the the haunted tour was fun.
SPEAKER_00The haunted I one of my favorite things we did there, to be honest. I love a look, I love a good ghost story. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't, but it was nice. And it was nice to just sort of see another area that we hadn't seen before.
SPEAKER_00So we were only there a week, and that's our week.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But we did a lot. But the surrounding area outside of the especially up and sort of behind Old Town is pretty modern.
SPEAKER_00It's very modern. Yeah, there's malls, everything, movie theaters. Now you're also like just a really quick drive to Montenegro from to Brovnik, which we really want to get to sometime.
SPEAKER_02And Bosnia. I mean if you wanted to go into Bosnia, like I mean there's obviously the whole mile of coast that you can explore. But you can also drive into like Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We've never really done any research on that.
SPEAKER_02We should no I mean Sarajevo somewhere I've always wanted to go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I only know that from like the news. I know that from you too. Oh yes. So the moral of the story is Dubrovnik. Big thumbs up.
SPEAKER_02Big thumbs up yeah no and I think that the beaches are fantastic but also you know you should be aware of the cruise ships I believe are 100% back now. So you should you know sort of weigh your options of what time what what you want to experience. Like if you don't mind the crowds go in summer. But be prepared for hotter than the setter the sun.
SPEAKER_00I think I would really have to consider when we went if we went back knowing the cruise traffic.
SPEAKER_02I mean I think Old Town gets B A N A N A S. Yeah. I mean I think that it's just like like Disneyland. Yeah yeah so keep that in mind. Yeah. And then go in the fall. Well that's what I'm saying. Like just depend it depends on what you really want. Like if you want a beach experience and you're willing to do that or you're gonna pick a special time that you're gonna go into Old Town like just just navigate navigate with that information.
New Weekly Episodes And Website
SPEAKER_00So good news is we're back. We are we're back till summer break so there'll be new episodes every week and check out the website www dothetawayswiththez.com check out all our old episodes we got a lot of really good summer beach episodes up so if you're coming over to Europe check them out man and thanks for listening and we'll see you next week