Brace yourselves for the magnetic charm of Olly Sholotan, the actor who brought Carlton to life in "PeacockBel Air," as he joins us to swap tales of tackling New York's frosty embrace and the cultural cocktail that is the city's social scene. Ollys's candid revelations about his first winter, complete with tales of puffer jackets and the quintessential New Yorker's battle with parking, will have you chuckling and nodding in solidarity. But it's not all snow and street signs; we tap into the vibrant Brooklyn nightlife and the eclectic allure of Queens, setting the stage for a conversation as unpredictable as the boroughs themselves.
Our melodious journey through the world of Afrobeat and Broadway is where cultures collide and language dances to the beat of music. Olly recounts the intricate dance of mastering Spanish to honor the legendary Ibrahim Ferrer, offering a glimpse into the rigorous process of transforming into a character whose native tongue is not your own. We peel back the curtain on the intersection of Afro-Cuban rhythms with Broadway's sparkle, and the often underestimated power of words in music, leaving you with a newfound appreciation for the lyrics that move us.
But wait, there's more – from the nitty-gritty of black representation on screen to Olly's foray into music production, this episode is a treasure trove of introspection and inspiration. Ollie doesn't just share his artistic journey; he invites you into a conversation about the evolution of an artist and the pursuit of creative freedom. And just when you think you've heard it all, we spin some tales on "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" and share a laugh over our DJing foibles. So tune in and get ready for an episode that dances to the rhythm of New York's heartbeat, with a side of personal anecdotes that are as memorable as they are enlightening.
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Brace yourselves for the magnetic charm of Olly Sholotan, the actor who brought Carlton to life in "PeacockBel Air," as he joins us to swap tales of tackling New York's frosty embrace and the cultural cocktail that is the city's social scene. Ollys's candid revelations about his first winter, complete with tales of puffer jackets and the quintessential New Yorker's battle with parking, will have you chuckling and nodding in solidarity. But it's not all snow and street signs; we tap into the vibrant Brooklyn nightlife and the eclectic allure of Queens, setting the stage for a conversation as unpredictable as the boroughs themselves.
Our melodious journey through the world of Afrobeat and Broadway is where cultures collide and language dances to the beat of music. Olly recounts the intricate dance of mastering Spanish to honor the legendary Ibrahim Ferrer, offering a glimpse into the rigorous process of transforming into a character whose native tongue is not your own. We peel back the curtain on the intersection of Afro-Cuban rhythms with Broadway's sparkle, and the often underestimated power of words in music, leaving you with a newfound appreciation for the lyrics that move us.
But wait, there's more – from the nitty-gritty of black representation on screen to Olly's foray into music production, this episode is a treasure trove of introspection and inspiration. Ollie doesn't just share his artistic journey; he invites you into a conversation about the evolution of an artist and the pursuit of creative freedom. And just when you think you've heard it all, we spin some tales on "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" and share a laugh over our DJing foibles. So tune in and get ready for an episode that dances to the rhythm of New York's heartbeat, with a side of personal anecdotes that are as memorable as they are enlightening.
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You know, we're trying new things, you're my first guest on the new set.
Speaker 2:Okay word, am I? Yes, Love that. Happy New Year. New Year, new Guests, new set. New Year, new Guests, new set. What's up? It's Ollie Sholleton. You might know me as Carlton from Peacock Speller or on my latest Off-Broadway show, buena Vista Social Club. What's up, nyla? We need to talk.
Speaker 1:What's going on, guys? Nyla Simone here with another episode of we Need to Talk, and today I have a very special guest in the building. We got Ollie Sholleton here. How are you?
Speaker 2:What's up? I'm great. How are you doing?
Speaker 1:Nah, you're just too cool for me right now. I don't like it. No, you're too cool for me.
Speaker 2:What that's crazy. Here's the thing. It's crazy that you say that, because one of the first things I remember when I met you, I remember thinking I was like why is she so cool? Like what? How dare she walk around like be so, like you're just steezy. I don't know what it is, you're just like you ooze cool.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, yeah, yeah, you're doing it, though today it's cooler than me and I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I'll take it.
Speaker 1:The name of Skilla Baby, as he would say.
Speaker 2:It's cooler than me. I don't like it.
Speaker 1:But how have you been?
Speaker 2:I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm really good. I'm in New York.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I've been out here for the last few months. I'm working on an off-Broadway musical Down in Chelsea. Right now it's winter, so I'm struggling a little bit. Yeah, this is good for you right, I'm not gonna lie to you. I was raised in Nigeria and then I moved to Houston and then I moved to LA. None of those places are cold.
Speaker 1:None of those places are the same vibe-wise At all.
Speaker 2:Either yeah either, but none of those places are cold, and here I am, and it's expected to snow this weekend.
Speaker 1:I know, and I'm really not looking forward to it. Is this gonna be your first time seeing snow?
Speaker 2:I've seen snow before but where it makes sense, in the mountains, like I've been hiking and I'm like snow belongs here.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Snow doesn't belong on 43rd Street. I think that's insane.
Speaker 1:I'm with you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like what do you mean? I have to put on two pants.
Speaker 1:You got your thermals. Now, though, right.
Speaker 2:I bought a puffer jacket for the first time. I finally bought a puffer, but do you have the thermals?
Speaker 1:You gotta get thermals. We'll work on it.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go get thermals right after this, but you got the puffer.
Speaker 1:That's a great start yeah.
Speaker 2:OK, ok, yeah. So like other than that, though, I'm great, like I'm really good. I feel like I'm really like in my artist bag. You know what I mean. You're loving New York. I'm loving New York. I didn't think I'd love it as much, but, like I'm loving, brooklyn is my favorite part.
Speaker 1:Ooh, Brooklyn Am I about to start a war, lucky you might, but it's OK, I love Brooklyn too, I think, where it's at as far as like social life, brooklyn has it right now.
Speaker 2:What's your favorite part of New York?
Speaker 1:Right now Brooklyn, OK.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But if it's like to live, it would be Queens.
Speaker 2:Really, I love Queens. I haven't been out to Queens yet.
Speaker 1:Queens is like half suburban but still city, like I could drive and go to a drive-through and get food, but I could still take a train.
Speaker 2:Oh, you have a car here.
Speaker 1:I had a car here. I had to get rid of it. I ended up owing like $6,000 in tickets and then they suspended my license $6,000 in tickets.
Speaker 2:It's a whole lot of stuff. Wait, what are you doing?
Speaker 1:Alternate side parking. So in New York they have this thing called alternate side parking where, like on Mondays and Wednesdays, you can't park on the left side of the street. Ok, and on Tuesdays and Thursdays you can't park on the right side of the street.
Speaker 2:Word.
Speaker 1:So if you left your car on the left side of the street, that's a $50 ticket. And if you want to pay that $50 ticket within a two-week span, it doubles, and then doubles, and then doubles, and then doubles, and doubles, and not in $6,000.
Speaker 2:You know what? Actually I'm glad you told me that, because until you told me that, I was like I'm never getting a car with you, because I'm like do you get these tickets for speeding? I'm never getting a car with you, but I get it. It's parking that happens, it's parking.
Speaker 1:I mean, I had a few speeding ones too, but neither hand over there.
Speaker 2:OK, never get a car with you. I think you'll trust me.
Speaker 1:I'm here. My driving record is pretty clean outside of that. The last time I got in an accident was high school and it was three days after I got my license, and I haven't been in one since.
Speaker 2:OK, I'll take it. I'll take it for now that was a long time ago. I'll take it for now. For now, I trust you a little bit. Ok, yeah, all right Let me silence my phone because it keeps buzzing, it keeps bothering me. I want to give you my full attention. Ok, all good, because you're important to me. Ok, let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So tell me about this play, Wait, wait, wait. So out of all the countries you've been in, could you say Nigeria, Houston, and then LA?
Speaker 2:What were?
Speaker 1:the ages per each country, so I was born in Atlanta.
Speaker 2:I know, I know I was born in Atlanta. At like six months old, moved to Nigeria, live there until I was 10. Then moved to Texas, houston. Went to the same high school as Beyonce, by the way.
Speaker 2:No pressure hey it's a performing arts high school and that's the thing the thing about. It's called Kinder HSPVA and the thing is you're only allowed in if you're as good as Beyonce Stop. And so when you do the audition, they're like do you have the Beyonce factor? And if you do, they let you in, and if they don't, they don't Shut up. So I went there for high school and then I moved out to LA at 17 for college.
Speaker 1:Oh, OK, OK.
Speaker 2:And so I've been there since.
Speaker 1:What school did you go to?
Speaker 2:UCLA.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a bro in.
Speaker 1:Mixing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that's the thing it's been, so it's been so mixy and I think that also has been a huge gift as an artist, right, because, like I I don't know my music and my acting. I'm always taking inspiration from so many places because, like, I've been exposed to so many different things, like I know so many people that are just like I hate country music and I'm like I think that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Sure, like country music isn't my go-to genre, but living in Texas, I got exposed to so many different sounds and different types of country music. I'm like, no, no, no, I get it Like I see, you know, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, what is your go-to genre? What did you say?
Speaker 2:Right, I mean Afrobeat.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, like, it's having this moment and it's like that's the. Those are the sounds I grew up on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like we've even just talking about before this interview started. It's like these are words that I sang my whole life and I've known what they mean and you know to like go to the club and hear people like I need Igbo Shao and I'm like y'all don't know what that means, but like I grew up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have no idea what Igbo and Shao is.
Speaker 2:Oh, igbo is weed and Shao is alcohol, so I need weed and alcohol. Ah okay, okay, like, and so I just think it's cool, like there's something so special about hearing words and yeah, hearing words and ideas that I don't know I grew up on as a kid, so like that's, and I love that Afrobeat is breaking the it's like mainstream yeah, the limits of even what like traditional Afrobeat sounds like yeah. And so now we're adding hip hop, pop, r&b. It's cool.
Speaker 1:No, it's fire, I'm loving it too. It's new for me to not know what I'm singing as I'm singing it. You know, like I'm sure it's been reversed for many years, Like everybody's been not understanding our music. So now it's weird having to like take a seat.
Speaker 2:But also we've also talked about this. I'm a pop nigga, like I love pop music. I know, I know, I know, oh my God, there's this musical out here is called and Juliet, and the whole thing is it's all music written by Max Martin, who I think is the greatest pop songwriter producer of our generation. Incredible musical. I went. I was foaming at the mouth by the second act. I was barking, I had a great time. I had a great time, like I do want it that way.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, you do make me want to actually go, though. Oh, you should go.
Speaker 2:I would go again. You want to go?
Speaker 1:Let me know, All right let's go. Tell me about your play, because when I said, you came out here for the play.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What is your role?
Speaker 2:So the show is called the Buena Vista Social Club and that probably sounds familiar because back in I want to say it was 90. I don't remember exactly when in the 90s, but it was back in the 90s the Buena Vista Social Club was this incredible huge Afro Cuban album that it was released. In it I'm fairly sure it won a Grammy. I play Ibrahim Ferrer, who is one of the members of the Buena Vista Social Club, and it's sort of this musical about how a lot of that music came to be and it's a musical celebrating that music and it's just. It's been a really cool experience because all the music's in Spanish and before this I did not speak Spanish and so it's been it's been a huge learning experience.
Speaker 1:You learned Spanish for this role.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I learned Spanish for the and don't get me wrong, I'm not like fluent. Fluent, I understand it pretty well. I speak it fine.
Speaker 1:Let me hear something.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can sing a little bit Dos gardenias para ti Con ella.
Speaker 1:Quiero decir te quiero Wait wait, wait, wait, so you can sing Spanish, but you're not that great at speaking Spanish, so when you travel, you're going to be like agua.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like you know and I don't know, but I think that's kind of what I think is so beautiful about the musical right. It's like music extends beyond culture and language, like we were just talking about how you're saying words that you don't know what they mean.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And like, obviously I know what all these songs mean because, like, I sing them every night, so like I, you know, translated them. But yeah, it's been this beautiful cultural exchange. But then also it's really really cool about the music that Ibrahim sings specifically is it's not in Spanish, it's sort of in this Cuban African creole, because, you know, because of the diaspora, a lot of Afro Cuban music, afro Cuban, it's inspired by sounds from Africa. Like when you see the show, most of the instrument because we have the band on stage and most of the instruments on the stage are African instruments, right, and so there are words that I sing that are even Yorubin, that they have like roots in the Yoruba language and Yoruba tribe. So it's also just been really interesting. It's been healing in a weird way.
Speaker 1:It's all original music. None of it has been altered.
Speaker 2:Or original in the sense of like this is all the music from the Buena Vista Social Club album and like we've changed arrangements here and there, but yeah, it's all in its. You know original Buena Vista Social Club, you know glory.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. So how long did it take you to, I guess, get your script down and, since you're doing it, another language?
Speaker 2:That did mean that everything took a lot longer. Learning the songs was a lot harder, because I wasn't just. You know, it's like when you hear a song and you know what you're saying, you just kind of it's easy because it's your language.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 2:I remember I would. I would have rehearsal all day from like 10 to 6 and then from 7 to maybe 11pm. I'd sit just listening to it over and over again and singing, and what I would do is I would sing it into the mirror, because so I'm also a dancer and so we didn't even get through water yet, like we didn't even touch the surface.
Speaker 2:And so it's just like I'm a very physical person and so I was just like, if I can memorize how my mouth moves, right, like the shapes that my mouth is making, I'll be able to memorize the words easier. Because also, that's the thing Consonants in Spanish and English don't sound the same At all, right like those gardenas para ti. I said para ti, not para ti. You know, like in English I'd say para ti, but in Spanish is para ti. And so once I would memorize how it felt in my mouth pause, no, that makes sense. Once I would memorize how my mouth moved.
Speaker 1:Yo, you know what? Let's just, let's now, let's just look it down, though that makes sense it made it easier. Yes, oh, easier, whoa.
Speaker 2:It's here, isn't it? It made it doable, it made it doable, yeah, what are you doing to me? Nah, what are you doing to me? Hey, you said it to yourself. Wait, wait, but like you made a trap, you know what I'm saying. Like, what are you doing to me? Like, come on, all right, all right, all right, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be respected when. I walk out of here, no you are much respected.
Speaker 1:You are a freak talent.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:A freak talent, and I don't even know why you didn't answer the question by saying it took two weeks, because I remember when you got the role and then I remember two weeks later when you were singing in Spanish already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was quick, it was like it was. Yeah, it was like two weeks.
Speaker 1:It was quick. That's ridiculous. Who does that? Freak talent, freak talent.
Speaker 2:Freak talent. You don't say I'm committed. I can't say Nothing but respect. Thank you Most respect. Actually, Thank you.
Speaker 1:I feel like of artistry, Broadway is like the top of the top.
Speaker 2:They are crazy, yeah, and, like you know, because a lot of the artists I'm working with, like they have done so much more theater than me and I'm learning from them every day because I mostly do film and TV.
Speaker 1:Is this your first time doing theater?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, Like I went to school for musical theater, okay, okay, so, but this is my first New York professional production, yeah, and so, like I'm just constantly learning from everyone, because they are incredible and they are just they are. They are talented.
Speaker 1:That's good. What are some like techniques? I guess you've learned from your castmates.
Speaker 2:Warming up and warming down, Like it's because I have a show tonight.
Speaker 1:Voice wise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like voice wise, vocally, even body wise, but specifically vocally. I have a show tonight, so it's like I have to use my voice in a smart and safe way throughout the day, and then, when it's time to sing, I got to warm up and then when I'm done, I got to warm down, or like my voice is still you know, my vocal cords are still tight, everything from that to just vocal care. I got mad sick last week, a week before, and I, you know, I did the show and it's like so when you're not sick, of course, you can sing, but now you're sick, so like you need to rely on the technique you feel it it's harder. Each note is a lot harder.
Speaker 1:The high notes.
Speaker 2:You know what are you going to do, and it's like you have to then rely on technique and you know, yeah, it's been cool, Like it's been a really, really incredible learning experience and I've learned a lot.
Speaker 1:You see yourself doing more, more Broadway, more theater.
Speaker 2:Oh, I want to, e-got you know so like, why not? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it looks like you're well on your way to that. Thanks, let's talk about Bel Air. Of course I was going to ask this. It's just a joke, but how similar are you to Carlton in real life?
Speaker 2:You know what's funny? Oh, in real life, yeah, not at all. I always say Carlton's like my little brother, you're a little brother. Yeah, like he's like my little. It's like, well, maybe a little cousin, you're a little cousin that like you see it like Thanksgiving and like every family get together. They have some crazy story for you and you're like I love you so much.
Speaker 1:And I want better for you. I want better for you.
Speaker 2:I wish more for you, my sweet child.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's kind of how Carlton is for me, it's like you know he's going through it, he's a special case, but also I think he speaks to so many young black kids experiences, right, I remember after the first season it aired, you know it was just crazy going out like in LA, because whenever, as a cast, we would go anywhere, it was just like, oh my God, bel Air, bel Air, this.
Speaker 2:And it was really overwhelming and like I don't know, I would always find it overwhelming and always just like, ah, and there was this one experience that really humbled me because I was like I've always known that what we do is important, but I remember it was this family that all said hi to me and in that group there was just like this one little boy, like it was a black family, this one little boy and he was kind of shy and he was in the back and I could tell that he wanted a picture because he was with everyone. I was like yo, like what's up, little dude, like how's it going? And he's just like you're the first black boy I've ever seen cry on TV and like you know, like that's how much this stuff matters Showing young black boys that you're allowed to express the full range of your emotions right? You are allowed to be vulnerable and you're allowed to need help.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the scene that actually made me cry is when you and Uncle Phil are crying, because it was like, because even Uncle Phil cried too, it was like, oh, you don't to this point.
Speaker 2:you don't see it, you don't see that.
Speaker 1:Wow, I didn't realize that's why it made me cry, but I think that is why.
Speaker 2:You know, and it's a beautiful thing to see. So like I am nothing like Carlton in real life, I'd say our similarities is we both love clothes. I think he's a little more preppy than I am, but like we both love clothes, we both do also kind of think that we are God's gift to this earth. You know what I'm saying. Like can't help it. Well, other than that, other than that we're not very similar to him. That is hilarious man.
Speaker 1:I think. What do you think of similar to him? Right, you don't? No, I don't think you're similar to him, All right cool, cool. But I think it's funny. Now watching the show and then knowing you, I'm like this you do a damn good job.
Speaker 2:Thank you. No, it's so funny I could tell whenever people meet me they're like you've got a constant. I'm like, eh, relax, it's fine, you got that stuff no.
Speaker 2:Hey, keep that stuff out your nose. I don't even. It's a TV show. You know how death threats? No, for the first like six months of the show airing, my DMs were crazy Death threats about what Of like if I see you in the street, like it's not a sight for real, like you're, because you know and I get it right. It speaks to how important it's a character. Yeah, and so they a. It was death threats, for how dare you change this character that we love so much?
Speaker 2:So that but then also why you so mean of will Like, why you so, which is crazy to me because I know that in order for you to find my DMs, you had to this type in actor that plays Carlton. So you know that it's not real, which is crazy to me. But yet like to the point where I remember our Our producer at the time. He would like call me every week Just like hey, how are you doing, ta-da? And I was like this is so nice. And I remember I checked it with my other castmates. I was like you know, like you get phone calls every week, right, and they're like no. And Then the next cause like you know, like what's? I appreciate these phone calls, like what's up? He's like I just want to make sure that you're doing well, you know, because it's a lot. You know he's hard to make sure that I wasn't going to do a depression, which I really appreciate, that's love, that's love.
Speaker 1:That's love. Because, yeah, death threats over a character role is crazy.
Speaker 2:But I take it as a compliment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that means you're doing your job Well, cuz I'm still mad at the guy from. Why did I give no not? Why did I get married, angry, died with mad black women? I remember the ball dude. I Can't remember his name right now.
Speaker 2:This is not damn when she threw him in the wheelchair and you have to cut this out because we would lose so much street cred. Okay, we admitted to not knowing.
Speaker 1:This is yeah, but that's seen, I can't stand his ass. Yeah, other roles, I'm like uh.
Speaker 2:So yeah, people say even my mom, like my mom After, like some of those season because season one Carlton was unhinged, yeah and after after some of those scenes, my mom will call me. I should be like I know you're my son and I know I love you. Why are you letting them represent you like you feel?
Speaker 1:like. This is another side of another notch that you just never got to live, and this is you living in.
Speaker 2:That's an interesting perspective, huh.
Speaker 1:It might because, honestly, another reason why I think the role is important is just because I don't think we realize that we do have like black elites now. Yeah, it wasn't a thing before, like, but 20 years later it's.
Speaker 2:We're getting more of that and it's like and what does that look like? Right, like how. How do black elites See themselves in this world as black people? And their kids and their kids? Right, it's like what? What do their kids go through growing up? Yeah in because you know it and it sounds so dumb to say it, but it's like you are a black kid in a white Community, so your understanding of your blackness is so different. Yeah then anyone else in America really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you didn't have that experience because you was in Houston. Houston black as hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, black as hell, nigeria black.
Speaker 1:Cultures are very, very different from music.
Speaker 2:Yeah food.
Speaker 1:Do you have a preference on like what has been your favorite so far?
Speaker 2:You know, and I would make fun of New Yorkers this all the time a bacon, egg and cheese is premium. I Love a bacon, egg and cheese angle. Hold you, I maybe have had it every single morning? No, not every, but like most morning. Are you serious, yo boss? Can I get a bacon, egg and cheese? Not the boss, no, but like dead ass on my father. Like, can I get a bacon, egg and cheese real quick? You don't say I love? Oh, my god, I love it. Ali is.
Speaker 1:Is 20 24 and you got to eat better. Okay, okay, but you gotta eat cuisine?
Speaker 2:do I like? Bet it like over a lifetime, right, are you saying lifetime or like right now?
Speaker 1:No, I'm just concerned. Could you say you've been eating bacon, egg and cheese is all the time they're good.
Speaker 2:What am I supposed to do not not eat them? They're good.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I probably went through a phase of eating it often as well, but oh, you mean to tell me you don't like bacon, egg and cheese anymore?
Speaker 1:anymore. I'm sorry I don't, but I've been here 10 years.
Speaker 2:You've been here like three months literally, I think, five months, yeah, five months.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, you got a little more Ten year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, the other day. What was it? The other day? I was on the sidewalk and like some guy was on his bike and he like rode past me and Like I was on the phone with someone and I was like, yeah, I'm about a dog walk this motherfucker right now. Who is that? That's not me. I wasn't actually gonna do anything, mind you. No, why is she over here proud?
Speaker 1:She's proud and she's from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I'll bark no bite, but in my brain I was like he almost hit me. I'm about to dog walk this, so you know New.
Speaker 1:York. Yeah, when you go back to LA you have to like I'm gonna do some chill. Yeah, I was like I dress different.
Speaker 2:That like yo, that ass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like New York, no you can keep the dress, okay, okay, okay, you eat that. That's what I can layer more here, yeah. Yeah, oh, so it's like I could you know yeah, but it be cold in LA low key Nippy nippy. Yeah, I don't like being cold, so any little sign of it. It's a problem in.
Speaker 2:Africa, like any side, I am not happy. It's a tell me either the equator, you know I mean like so we talked about your acting, your theater work.
Speaker 1:We haven't even mentioned the DJ, the DJ time you've been putting in, but let's definitely get into your artistry as an artist. Word um, I know you're working on a project right now, are you still?
Speaker 2:working on a project I am.
Speaker 1:Can I say the name, or is it not supposed to be released?
Speaker 2:You know, let's not say the name yet. Let's not say the name yet, but, like I will promise you, when I do announce the name It'll be on your show.
Speaker 1:Okay, great.
Speaker 2:Because it's a cool name. It's a great name, dope name. But I'm working on a song. I will be putting out a song in the early part of this year. It's called wish. Wish, I Think you've heard. I think I played it for you. It was one of the songs that played for you first or second one I think it was the first one, okay.
Speaker 2:I think it was the first one that I played and, yeah, like I Kind of like music was one of my first loves, like I remember, every Sunday after church I would come home and go to my parents room and I'd watch every Michael Jackson Music video like ever that I've seen every single one. Like I loved music and I was just kind of like you know what, I don't know something about where I was at the time. I guess I just wasn't really ready to do it and so, like I fell into acting because I watched high school musical and I was like you know, this acting thing, it's kind of cool. So, you know, fell into acting and that was the thing that I did for a while. Then, while I was at UCLA, I had taken this music industry course and they were talking about how you know, the time of Needing a labels, kind of it's not really a thing anymore, right?
Speaker 2:So, like, artists can come from anywhere and I was like you know, I want to do this for real, so I started writing and then they're like, okay, well, if you want to, then you need a producer, and I'm impatient, so I don't really like waiting. So I was like, yeah, rather than like finding a producer and then it doesn't work. And then da, da, da, da. And then I was like, fine, I'll just learn how to produce myself. And so that was like, fine, I'll just learn how to mix. It's a long story short. Here I am and I produce, right and Sing, and you know, and it's just kind of like yeah, I never, I don't like waiting for people's permission to do my art. So it's like that's a bar.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying so. It's like I'm gonna do it like if and so here we are. You know, I feel like I've spent the last year Really just kind of honing in on what my sound is.
Speaker 1:What is it? What did you sum it up?
Speaker 2:Where I'm at. Where I'm at is Is because you know, at heart I'm a pop nigga, I love R&B and I look so like but it sounds like Worldly yeah, it sounds so like I think what we settled on that day was like, if the weekend did, afro beat Was kind of where, where we landed. I like that that day, the context of this is Over at. Yeah, you're there like.
Speaker 1:I wasn't there.
Speaker 2:Well, basically we're over Angie, Angie Martinez's place and first of all, I'm a mean DJ, like I'm really good.
Speaker 1:I'm not actually.
Speaker 2:You know, I was just like playing my music. It was great, like you gave me a lot of feedback, just like a lot of Questions I really hadn't thought about as far as like who's this for, like what? What am I trying to say with my music? And that has been kind of my biggest journey Because, you know, I think as an artist you can say anything yeah right, but it's about what do you choose to say? What parts of yourself do you choose to show to the world? And I think I've settled on it. So you know, I'm excited to share it with everybody coming soon coming soon you.
Speaker 1:Q1 of this year.
Speaker 2:Oh, q1, definitely Q1.
Speaker 1:I mean you have a lot going on plays. You're going back on no, literally we're going back.
Speaker 2:The reason why I'm going back to LA is because we start shooting Bel Air in. Am I allowed to say the date? I'm sure I am. I'm sure I am. We start shooting Bel Air in.
Speaker 1:February, soon, soon, soon February. Okay, wait. So you have a one week break of relaxing and you plan on dropping music somewhere in between.
Speaker 2:The crazy thing is I don't really have a one week break of relaxing because I have pre-production and actually while I'm shooting this I'm going to be going to LA for like fittings and stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, alright, yeah, just yo, I had to convince you. You know why the heart is working. Thank you. No, thank you.
Speaker 2:I had this joke. I had this joke to all my friends. I'm like, look, I just want to find me a rich woman, settle down and like, have her, like you know, like you're a liar and they tell me all the time you're a dirty liar. If I was paid a million dollars to sit at home, I would find a job.
Speaker 1:You would drive yourself crazy, I would be insane.
Speaker 2:Like I love, I don't know, I love doing shit, you know so. And then in that week that I'm going to be back here, we have readings, we have pre-production, we have to get ready for the show, and then we start shooting. I don't know, I think I'm my best self when I'm creating, and that's the thing. Like with the music. I've shot the visuals for it. Like I shot them while I was out here. What? Yeah, like you know, I shot them while I was out here. I'm excited.
Speaker 1:So this is New York Alley.
Speaker 2:I guess, yeah, I guess it's New York Alley and I would say, after this, I'll show you the music video. They don't get to see it, but I'll show it to you Please. Yeah, yeah, I shot the visuals while I was out here. I finished the song before I got out here. I've been writing a lot of stuff while being in New York, because that's also the thing, location inspires what you make too. And so even just being out in New York, and you know the parties that I've gone to and just the places I've been, I'm writing different music here too. So I don't know, it's been cool. I feel like I've grown so much. It's cool.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's amazing. Well, I'm looking forward to it. I do think you should lock in with a producer though Word. You just gotta find the right.
Speaker 2:We just have to find the right one.
Speaker 1:The right one. Yeah, I have somebody.
Speaker 2:Do you manage?
Speaker 1:No, I don't, but I'll just be your friend and tell you if I like it or not. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because that's the thing. One thing she don't lie Like, and I love it. She does not lie Like. I think I played y'all three, four, five songs.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And literally like that one's good, that one's good, I could do without this one. It's not whack, I could do without it and I was like great, thank you.
Speaker 1:Honestly, after that day I was like, man, it's crazy how talented you are. Because it's like, because you have such a good voice, like there is no wrong answer. So that's why I was just like it's really about like how you want to format it.
Speaker 2:What do you?
Speaker 1:want. I don't know. I don't know what you're trying to represent, but yeah, no, it's ridiculous how talented you are. Thank you, I appreciate it. I'm a little jealous, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh look, come on, what are we talking about? Come on, all right.
Speaker 1:So new music on the way, new TV shows on the way. Oh, before I get into this game, then we always play on the show.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it's called Questions that.
Speaker 1:Need Answers.
Speaker 2:You have to fill in the blank, okay.
Speaker 1:I want to add to that. I want to access their dream role that you wanted to do.
Speaker 2:I have a hard time with this question because one of part of my evolution, just like as an artist and as a creative, is not being too prescriptive with my life, because I think you know we love to make plans Like I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, and then you look back and it's like none of the things that I planned happened. But it ended up better because, like little secret, when I was auditioning for Bel Air, I was also really close to another project and I wanted that project way more Really, way more. Like why I don't want to. Like I'm not Alfonso, I'm not gonna do what Alfonso does. Like I don't know, like you can't hit the screenboot.
Speaker 2:I can, can you? Oh, absolutely I can't. I might have to see that. Here's the thing. I might have to see that no one's seen it yet. No one's seen it yet.
Speaker 1:Wait, have you met him and have y'all done it together Like that would?
Speaker 2:be. I have not met Alfonso, yet I haven't met him yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2:But like I'm not gonna say much, I'm not gonna say anything. But you got it, I got it. I don't say nothing, but like I wanted. I wanted something else entirely, like I would have never in a million years dreamed that the role that would have changed my life is Carlton from the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air right.
Speaker 2:It's never what you expect, right it's never what you expect, and so I think I'm trying to stay more open to just like I don't think I know what my dream role is Right. I think the role that will change my life, the role that, oh my god that I don't think I know what it is, I think it's something that it'll come and I will do the Ollie thing and give it my 150%, and only after will I be able to look back and be like dang that thing. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Can I ask what your character personality was for the other project, like, what type of hat are you under with that?
Speaker 2:one, he was a young king. Yeah, he was a young king.
Speaker 1:Dang, I see why you wanted that one.
Speaker 2:No, you don't say I was like the show was about hit. You don't say I was like, oh, that's yeah um you know.
Speaker 1:But honestly, fresh Prince is such a staple, like at least in black american television, that or just television period In the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I have people come up to me and they say I learned English through Fresh Prince, like through the original Fresh Prince of Bel Air. What? Yeah, because it played in so many different countries like this. So, yeah, you know, like it's a staple, it's a staple and now, looking back at it, it's like I can't imagine this role being played by anyone else.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't you know not to like talk about it, I have no grumps. Right, like not to talk about shit, but it's like I. I know how personal this version of Carlton is to me and I know what I've. You know the parts of myself that I have ripped open and put into this that I can't imagine anyone else doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know man proposes, god disposes.
Speaker 1:So you know that was a bar. Yeah, you tried some. You tried some. Just in this interview I gotta say yeah, okay, I like that. Great answer though. Great, great answer Okay to the game.
Speaker 2:Wait, let's talk about me as a DJ. So so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so so I thought we were trying to be taken seriously. No, no, but like seriously, let's talk about it seriously.
Speaker 1:So what happened is so he came to DJ my set, ruined the set and then people thought it was me and it wasn't me.
Speaker 2:I did not ruin the set, you didn't ruin the set that had happened, the one that wasn't blended.
Speaker 1:I mean it was bad, it was all bad.
Speaker 2:What happened was so I was over at Angie's like I'm not talking about half before, like a week.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're doing that Like a week and a half back, okay.
Speaker 2:Angie Martinez was placed like a week and a half before and you know like she has a turntable there. So I was like DJing. I was doing the thing. I wasn't very good, but I was getting the hang of it and kind of. You know one thing about me I'm a quick learner and everyone was just like here's the thing, don't get me wrong, you're not great, but like you are way better than you should be considering. You've never done this before. And I was like you're right, you know what? And so then we met.
Speaker 1:Another person who's really honest is Angie.
Speaker 2:Angie, you're not lying to you, man, that woman will not lie to you. I mean, she's very straightforward, very straightforward.
Speaker 1:So I know she's the one who said not gonna be, not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2:You're pretty terrible, but you're better than Then you should be yeah, and so I took that to heart, because she doesn't lie, yes. And then I saw it, and then we met a week after and I was like this is my destiny.
Speaker 1:And then you came and ruined my my DJ set, and it's okay, it was towards the end, so I'm not too mad.
Speaker 2:But and then, and then, and then? Did you tell them about the part where?
Speaker 1:You redeemed yourself.
Speaker 2:Where I redeemed myself, where, like, I was DJing separately for some other thing, that was pretty good, you know. Rich Barry and I were DJing for some other thing. That was pretty good and I sent it to you and you're like this is cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't even criticize that, I was impressed You've been working, I've been working, you've been working, I've been working. What can I say? So when are you gonna like have time for that in your schedule, because it just doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2:Realistically, I think it's something that will only do recreationally.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't know if you look, you know, you never know, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:Wait, are you for real?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm a 30 on a set of an actual party. Oh, let's see how you do.
Speaker 2:Okay, but can we do it together? Sure, okay, yeah, that's the deal. I'm so down like we could DJ together. Okay, you know what I'm saying. You pick the songs.
Speaker 1:But you're gonna have to open because I'm nervous. You're gonna have to go first.
Speaker 2:Oh, so do you Like not?
Speaker 1:know the party, you can't.
Speaker 2:Sure, that's fine, okay, yeah, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine, all right, cool, but if you like it, then you'll let me continue. Yes, work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, let's do that. We'll have to record that as well.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's gonna be good.
Speaker 1:All right, so for questions that need answers you just fill in the blank. Okay, all right. The older I get, the less I.
Speaker 2:The less I lack patience.
Speaker 1:The less I lack patience.
Speaker 2:Also, you're more patient, I'm more patient now because I I don't think impatience. I think impatience has served me in certain ways, but I think also in a lot of ways it's given me unrealistic expectations for how things work.
Speaker 1:Understood. I like that. I can't believe I actually blinked when I was younger.
Speaker 2:How weird is this? A lot to get.
Speaker 1:It's been weird. It's definitely gotten weird that was one time.
Speaker 2:So for you know what's so funny, I've never told anyone else a story because it happened with just me. It was me and me alone. Okay, there was like a two to three year time period where I didn't wear jeans, Like I didn't wear denim.
Speaker 1:I hate jeans, by the way.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's crazy. I love jeans Now, but the reason why I didn't was because there was one time as a kid I was feeling really lazy and I didn't wear underwear and so free ballin'. Yeah, just free ballin'. So I go to the bathroom and you know I'm done. And I come back and I, you know, pull my pants up and I zip it up like a little too fast, I throw it for you, and when I say it's the worst pain that I've ever felt in my entire life, oh my god, in my entire life, when I was younger, I can't believe I actually zip my nuts up, and now that sounds painful.
Speaker 2:And so now I always wear boxers because we're talking, but I have a fear of, you know, those like quarter zips that go up to your neck Whenever anyone comes. You know, sometimes you're just like playing with people and you're just like yeah, you don't even.
Speaker 2:Like when I have to put my two fingers in and then zip it up, because I'm not a phobia of zippers. Yeah, damn, I feel like you're not alone, though you can't I cannot be the only, but it was what I didn't even tell my parents, because it was one of those things that, like I, was the only one that was there when it happened.
Speaker 1:And they're also going to be looking at you like who did we? Why didn't?
Speaker 2:you. It begets so many questions, yeah.
Speaker 1:She's going to question you now, though.
Speaker 2:Absolutely One thing about my mom she watches every interview I've ever done. What's up mom? Oh my god, love you mom. I send her flowers every month. Aww, like they're just like on auto auto deliver. I send her flowers every month, that's awesome A friend gave me that idea once.
Speaker 1:Mom deserves it, mom deserves it and. I'm sure she appreciates it. Okay, I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about Blink.
Speaker 2:Classic Black Media. I was about to say movies, but music too, like classic black American movie, like I only just saw Friday.
Speaker 1:Last Friday, last year.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying Because I grew up in Nigeria. There's so much that I missed out on that. I'd be having conversations and people would be like, oh, like da, da, da da da. You saw and you don't know the reference or the reference songs, literally. The other day, ange got on me because she was like you've heard, yo, what album was it? Stevie Wonder? Oh, key of Life. Key of Life. You've heard songs in Key of Life and I was like I know the big song. You know, I know the big that's on songs. Yeah, like I know those, but I haven't heard the full album. You know, like I'm working my way through it, but there's so much that keeps being released. You haven't.
Speaker 1:You've been doing the work. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2:I'm really embarrassed by that. It's my friends. Be they be flabbing me every single time.
Speaker 1:That's funny. I was just talking about this yesterday. How, like now, I'm into Afro Beats and I'm a piano and I went to go see Asake Asake, asake. I went to see him and at the concert they're like the DJ's playing all these records, like this is for my OG, afro Beats and they're playing all these songs that I have no idea about yeah, like they're playing P Square, old School, de Vido, alameda, and it's like I felt A lot of people don't yeah.
Speaker 1:I hate it, I hate feeling, I hate not knowing. So I know how you feel, and that's the thing like I will always tell them.
Speaker 2:I'm like do you know about how Yahoozay took over? I don't, all of Nigerian like 2008. I don't, I don't. So like, why are you getting on me for not knowing?
Speaker 1:but I get it.
Speaker 2:But you're here.
Speaker 1:You're here, but I was over there.
Speaker 2:They would have been like and that's the thing. What they always say is like, ali, at this point, you've been here long enough. You've been here long enough.
Speaker 1:So I'm working on it. Yes, you are. I'm gonna have to send you some playlists. Word.
Speaker 2:Send me playlists. We can have a movie night. We can figure it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause there's actually a tweet going around on Twitter and it has, like all of the black movies.
Speaker 2:Please.
Speaker 1:And then per each movie it's a point, so it's a point system. So it's like how black are you Got you. Should I pull this tweet up and?
Speaker 2:I mean pull it up. I know I'm gonna get like four, four.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to do that to you. That's the case.
Speaker 2:I don't think it. I remember this one day on set I think this was we're filming out of season one, of season two, I don't know and it was this one day on set where, like yeah, I was like Jordan, jordan brought it up. It was like, oh, bro, you remember? And da, da, da, da, da. And I was like I don't. It was like no, you remember that movie? I was like bro, I haven't seen this movie. And then Jabari comes in and it just basically everyone it's like me in the middle and it's everyone in a circle just flaming me. Have you seen this? It's like no.
Speaker 1:I haven't.
Speaker 2:Please.
Speaker 1:I'm an accident.
Speaker 2:You know what? Okay, you know what you should do. You know that TikTok audio is like you need a leave, you need to like AI. That.
Speaker 1:We need a talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's what you should do. You should think about that.
Speaker 1:That would be good. Alright, cool, back to the game. Sometimes I look back at my life in blank.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I look back at my life and I don't believe it Because I don't know a lot of. It feels surreal, right Like to be a professional entertainer has been the only dream I've ever had for as long as I can remember.
Speaker 1:It's like damn, I'm really doing this shit.
Speaker 2:No, it's like damn, I'm really doing it Like I got, like I started working on Bel Air when I was 21, 22. And that's so surreal to me, like I'm so young, I'm a baby, so just it feels surreal. I always say I have more gratitude to the universe that I can really ever express. Yeah, I just don't believe it. It feels surreal.
Speaker 1:I love that. Let's see, I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked.
Speaker 2:I made a complete fool of myself when I tried stand up one time.
Speaker 1:You tried stand up.
Speaker 2:I tried stand up. This was in high school. There was a comedy club and I tried. Yeah, I tried stand up, cause, here's the thing, I'm a funny person. I think I'm funny like in conversation, but like I just also didn't get. So what I did was I went up there and I just read funny tweets. I read other people's tweets, funny tweets.
Speaker 1:And then joke on them.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I didn't add anything. I didn't add anything.
Speaker 2:I just I just stood there and I read these tweets in the room, reacted with a combination of like that doesn't translate well into tech, or also it's like. I saw that tweet and then, and then I was like ah ha, ha. And then at some point then I started reading song lyrics because you know, the low wing Pussy so Wet, I'm gonna need goggles. You know, I was like literally, you think I'm just.
Speaker 1:I was like no, I'm not laughing because you thought that the lyric was a joke.
Speaker 2:Cause, imagine me at like what 15 I mean this room. I'm like pussy so wet I'm gonna need goggles, I feel like I hear a cricket. No like it was. That silence was so loud I made an absolute fool of myself. I really did. It was really embarrassing.
Speaker 1:That is hilarious actually, I think.
Speaker 2:I'd be better at stand up now, but I think you're missing technique 100% you know what. I think it's also important to know your limits. No one works and no one doesn't work.
Speaker 1:Yes, I mean you're witty though. Thank you, but you know, stand up. I think it takes a little more than that.
Speaker 2:I'll stick to what I do best.
Speaker 1:Alright cool.
Speaker 2:Which is anything else?
Speaker 1:Alright, my personality trait is blank.
Speaker 2:Relentless, I don't give up. That is a great word. Yeah, my personality trait is relentless, cause I don't really believe in star signs. I really don't. But my manager does. She's super big into star signs and she's like you're an Aries, like that's so Aries of you, and I'm like no, I'm not, like sure, I am, but like I am not, like I'm not a stubborn person, I'm really not, are you?
Speaker 1:That explains a lot.
Speaker 2:Is why you like me so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually, cause I'm a Leo.
Speaker 2:That's why we get along so long. We're fire signs. That's my kin folk for real. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Wait, you just went from Brooklyn to fucking Atlanta just now.
Speaker 2:Kin folk for real. I also love accents Because I love the way people speak, because I think the way people speak tells so much about their stories. So I love the way people speak and I like absorb that.
Speaker 1:How I speak. What does it tell about my story? How I speak?
Speaker 2:Oh my god, it's such a loaded question. See, it's okay. Tell me about myself. No, because you're not from LA. Sorry, you're not from New York.
Speaker 1:You moved here.
Speaker 2:Are you from, like, somewhere close to the south? Cause you have southern tendencies.
Speaker 1:Do I yeah?
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm not from here.
Speaker 1:I've never said.
Speaker 2:I've never said that. You literally did it right now literally adding like I'm. Here's the thing I'm exaggerating like a little bit, I'm over. Exaggerating like a little bit or a lot of no no, like a little bit, but like, where are you from? Marilyn see that's thing. The thing about the Marilyn accent is like weirdly southern for whatever reason, I don't know why well, technically Marilyn is below the Mason Dixon line, so are this out on textbook.
Speaker 1:But if you say.
Speaker 2:You said technically is below the Mason Dixon line. You said line I said line line, you see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:I know, but you know what, okay, fine but honestly, we've completely derailed.
Speaker 2:But what was I saying? We're like oh yes, so my manager, she is so big on star signs and she was like you're in areas and I'm like, but I'm not stubborn, like I don't, I don't like to fight like I don't like arguing, I'm such a like, oh, you think I did something wrong. I'm so sorry, like let's fine, let's move on. And she's like your stubbornness doesn't manifest socially, it's more within your work yeah, it's more like perfect, like if I have decided I want to do something, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's yeah, I'm relentless relentless is a great word, and do you have like a word for the year? You know how, like New Year, people pick, like new mantra, new mantras for themselves this is so aries of me?
Speaker 2:no no, no, no. It's like I don't really believe in, like, new Year's resolutions. Oh my god, let me explain why. Let me explain why I don't, even for myself, right, because for other people's, like, do you know, if it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid. That's what I always said, true? So the reason why I don't? Because, like I don't like waiting to improve, like I hate the idea of like, oh, you know, it's starting this day, I'll improve. So it's like I just I set goals all the time. It was like, oh, what are your new years? I have new week resolution.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying like I just set goals all the time yeah and so I don't really have a word for the year, cuz like I don't know what I did last year work pretty well thank you guys appreciate it for real.
Speaker 2:So I don't know I, but if I had to find a word for the year, I guess I guess it would be patience. I think that that really is the main thing that I have been working on is just patience with the universe, patience with myself. I think a double-edged sword of the relentless. The relentlessness is that, like I don't offer myself a lot of grace kind of at all. You know, I'm saying I'm such a like I said I'd do this, I didn't do it and I didn't do it as well as I expected to do it. Oh, I'm trash, you know I was it. So patience is probably the word for the year.
Speaker 1:I think patience is a great word, especially as a creative, because it takes time for things to develop and manifest and just to create, you know something someone said to me once is it takes.
Speaker 2:It can take ten years for an overnight success. And I was like yo, for real, yeah, cuz every single time you hear of like oh, they came from nowhere actually. And then you look back and it's like now they really they've been doing it for a while, they don't come from nowhere yeah, trust me, I get it whoof alright.
Speaker 1:So thank you, ali, for joining me thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:This is dope.
Speaker 1:I'm coming back. You're stuck with me please do, because we got to talk about the album when it drops. We do and announce the name here, of course. Okay, cool you should.
Speaker 2:You only shoot in New York. You should do a show in LA for you maybe.
Speaker 1:Okay for you, maybe. I'm special only for you, though, but okay, it's not actually grandma.
Speaker 2:Everybody know where they can follow you can follow me at Ali show on Instagram. Ali show on tiktok, african Godling on Twitter slash X, what?
Speaker 1:aren't you supposed to have it the same on all platforms? Where the fuck did that come?
Speaker 2:from. So what had happened? Was I? What happened was in college. I was like, oh, you know, like why are demigods always? Because I was a huge like nerd as a kid. So, like demigods are always like Greek or Roman, but like we, you know, in Africa we don't. We have deities too, so we don't have, you know. And I was like Godling. I like Godling is like a so that's your. Yeah, so African godling yeah, that's actually pretty dope right, that's pretty dope.
Speaker 2:One of those names to someday I'm gonna change it, like probably one day I'm gonna change it, but for now it's African Godling. I like. Ali show on everywhere else. Yeah, yeah, you know how Rihanna has back out bad yeah yeah you know? Do you remember? Oh my god, do you remember this tiktok video? It just came to my brain where's his pastor, and put the blood, put my face like it's me a cup. Do you know I'm talking about? Oh my god, I'm about to change your life.
Speaker 2:He's in church later, later, yeah, but he's in church and he's like he's oh my god, it's the most incredible thing hundred blood, hundred blood in church. He's in church. It's incredible. I think he's in Jamaica never seen it it's incredible. I'll send it to you all right.
Speaker 1:All right until next time, guys. Ali, thank you for coming. Talk soon, peace.