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Welcome to #WeNeedToTalk, where conversations get real and perspectives collide! In this episode, host #NylaSymone sits down with the one and only #Jaewon for an unfiltered discussion. From exposing BBL Bandits to navigating scars from past relationships, Jaewon dives into it all. Plus, get ready for exclusive insights into his upcoming music projects and scorching hot takes on trending topics. Don't miss out on this must-watch episode & comment your takes ⬇️⬇️⬇️
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It's like if New York was to say we started Air Force Ones. Technically we did. Y'all started Air Force Ones, but let niggas tell it Nelly started that.
Speaker 2:Y'all didn't make Air Force Ones hot.
Speaker 1:How didn't we? Nelly just made a song about it.
Speaker 2:And Nelly made it hot.
Speaker 1:But Nelly only started winning Air Force Ones because he had Kuda Love with him and Kuda Love is from Harlem.
Speaker 2:Oh, like I said, I like living in New York. I don't want no problems, so I'm not going to do this little tit for tat.
Speaker 1:Killed her just now. What's up y'all? Really J1. You might have heard my new tape. If you haven't, go get it One of them ones. What's up, nala? We need to talk.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, let's start the interview now that you don't raise my blood pressure. Um, what's up, guys? And welcome to another episode of we need to talk today. I got a very special guest in the building. We got jaywan in the building. How are you? I'm great. Thank you for having me. Yo, you great. You came in here being a menace, starting fires, fucking coming for everybody. That I love, but it's all good. I'm a fan of your new project, thank you. You've been going crazy with the freestyles. Actually, I should start there.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:What, I guess what kind of started you, what inspired you to take rap seriously?
Speaker 1:Basically, like I have a conversation we just had before we started.
Speaker 2:All your critiques.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Honestly like, and then just like, having a lot of like ideas and paying attention to a lot of shit, and being like yo, I think you should try this and niggas not trying it. And being like you know what, Fuck telling y'all what to do, I'm just going to do it and watch how you, and that's really what they're difficult.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you're just tired of where the game is at right now? Yeah, okay, I feel that and, that being said, because I feel like rap and I got to be honest, I'm a big rap fan. I grew up off of all the OGs now, but for me, I've been listening to different genres just because rap has been underwhelming.
Speaker 1:Very underwhelming.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What are you listening to right now? R&b, r&b. No rappers, raw wave okay, a little bit of little baby. Who else I listen to? I like underground and like not really major artists for real. For real, that's what I listen to, and a lot of my shit and a lot of your shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you? Do you have um a project in the works? I know you just dropped the EP straight freestyles, but are you working on?
Speaker 1:I do yeah, I actually got two projects done right now and I got mad like EPs done. I got I'm working on one right now with Smoke, dizzo, fire me and 24 hours got an EP together and then me and Seth Gnarly from the Bronx got a project together, so we got mad projects.
Speaker 2:We got mad projects, I see. So what's the plan? I like the freestyle that you're dropping, though, because it just reminds me of the type of rap that I grew up on, even having Clu's voice on it and shit like that. I'm like this is dope, this is nostalgic. Was that on purpose? Yeah.
Speaker 1:My engineer stole that off of YouTube. Like that, I'm like this. This is dope, this is nostalgic. Was that on purpose?
Speaker 2:yeah, my engineer stole that off of youtube, why you just say hit clue. You can hit clue. Clue still active.
Speaker 1:Don't sleep not cool actors who's still active?
Speaker 2:I?
Speaker 1:don't know. I just feel like, like at least from my experience like a lot of people be watching my page and stuff and then like might not follow or might not click Like. So it's just like I see you when I see you and you feel me. That's expected, though, yeah, that's expected. It's weird, the industry's weird.
Speaker 2:The industry is weird, but you should be used to it.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:You done seen it. You done seen it your whole life.
Speaker 1:I did see it, but it's just like, don't be weird with me. Like don't be weird with me, especially because I'm a person, I'm cool and I give people their flowers. So if you're gonna be weird with me, it's just gonna be like all right, you know what? Now I'm gonna show you why you shouldn't be weird with me.
Speaker 2:I get it all right, so I want to talk about influences. Growing up, obviously your dad has played a role, but like? Did you always want to rap or did you see yourself doing a different career path?
Speaker 1:I think I did want to rap. I just tried to avoid it for a very long time.
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Huh.
Speaker 2:Pressure.
Speaker 1:Nah no pressure.
Speaker 1:There's never no pressure. It's honestly like the critiques, like you feel me, why we don't never look at Gerald Leverert and be like he ain't never going to be like Eddie LaVert. We ain't never see a truck driver start driving trucks and then be like they son not going to drive like that. Like it's just weird. Like rap is so weird and like just, and then people don't ever give you it a fair air, like they listen to it with the expectation of hearing who your predecessor is. It's like, bro, that's weird. Yeah, now I get it. It is hard, even with sports. Like you feel me, like michael jordan's son wasn't jordan, yeah, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But it's just like, oh, bro, like you guys are like the first era, of like having a og already in the game because hip hop is only 50.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you niggas is about 50 years old.
Speaker 2:But this is the first time we're seeing Domani TI Sun. This is the first time we're seeing, I guess, the next generation of rap. But I do think I don't know what it is like why they're always compared, but that's why I try not to even really bring that up when I talk about people's music that's because it'd be a time stamp, like it'd be everything.
Speaker 1:People like the, our predecessors from my era, so you just looking for that ever, the whole time. It's just like real life is different, like some really probably never been at a certain experiences. So it's just like, bro, why are you looking for that from them?
Speaker 2:like yeah, that's true. When a lot of people love to feed into that narrative like they love the lie, I can't relate. He said the shit I rap about.
Speaker 1:That's real I can't relate, but people do love the lie. I feel like you should do it, like you should do it. You feel me. It is entertainment at the end of the day. We see telling the truth is getting artists indicted and shit. That's a fact. I feel like you should be honest, be real.
Speaker 2:So you graduated high school out here and then went to college in Atlanta. Correct, talk to me about spending time in Atlanta, because it's very different from living in New York.
Speaker 1:Atlanta was amazing. I'm not going to lie, atlanta was amazing. The party scene Going up to so so Def Studio spending time there, it's like damn. Some of our classic favorite records was born. This is where Bad Boy recorded this at. It's crazy. And then just going to different landmarks and being in certain areas, it's like wow, like niggas used to talk about this, niggas used to rap about this and you hear now this is crazy.
Speaker 2:This is amazing, anything you learned musically.
Speaker 1:Atlanta.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You just got to make some shit that make people move honestly.
Speaker 2:Because you know, they say what was it? The South got something to say and then the South has had it ever since. Nah didn't have it ever since that is definitely what they say.
Speaker 1:They say it, the South didn't have it ever since. I feel like, honestly, you want to know what I really think.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'm a little scared actually. Nah, I feel like.
Speaker 1:DJs followed what New York DJs was doing, like the platform and the blueprint New York DJs did, and then, randomly, new York DJs just started following Southern DJs and lost the whole concept of how to be a real DJ. You feel me? I feel like it's cool, though, because, with the DJs following Atlanta, atlanta start putting on local artists, because Atlanta is different from New York. The locals and celebrities all know each other. They all go to school. It's not like New York, where it's hard to see a celebrity or get in contact with them. So I feel like that played a huge part. I appreciate that, but yeah, I don't know. Atlanta has a real sense of community. I feel like that played a huge part. I appreciate that, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Atlanta has a real sense of community. I feel like when it comes to that they do.
Speaker 1:But they don't. It's like they got community like they like to see you win, but other than that, it's like all right, you won.
Speaker 2:Now get out of my face no, it is not like you won.
Speaker 1:Get out of my face, it is it's like all right, you won, you won. You putting on for the city. Now Stay over there. You're not over here with us.
Speaker 2:Sure, but at least they show up for one another.
Speaker 1:If they fuck with each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1:I fuck with it.
Speaker 2:I like it, I like Atlanta a lot and I think, compared to New York, I wouldn't even say New York DJs follow Southern DJs. I just feel like New York DJs stayed in their own routine and didn't evolve with the times.
Speaker 1:Nah, I think they did follow them. They did in the music they playing, but Atlanta DJs whoever would be equivalent to Funk Flex in Atlanta is going to go to a hole in the wall club in Atlanta or go to the biggest club in Atlanta. So they're going to hear what the people want to hear, like the streets, and they're going to hear what the fans, who are already big, want to hear. You get what I'm saying. In New York we don't got that. Djs, a&rs, all of that. They're not going into the streets and singing with the streets on their head like they're waiting for you to pop somewhere else then to be like, oh, like, it's weird musically, do you feel like?
Speaker 2:well, when you went to school, what'd you go to school for?
Speaker 1:psychology psychology.
Speaker 2:So you're not even using that shit. So when you, no, I do, though.
Speaker 1:That's why I be paying attention to shit and looking at niggas and and be like yeah, that niggas is weird. I use it to stay away.
Speaker 2:So you roll with a tight team. Yeah yeah, Since being back, you're back up here right. Since being back. How has it changed you musically? Because obviously New York's traditional sound, atlanta's sound is very different.
Speaker 1:I think it's a blend, because I listen for beats that'll sound good in a vehicle, that sound good in the club and then, just like I also listen for stuff with like you gotta have a good mixture. Like if you pay attention to like athletes and then like me playing sports briefly and like my friends playing sports niggas, like working out to good music, like you need music that's going to be motivating you feel me. But then new york we got a different culture. So atlanta got driving, it's all driving in atlanta.
Speaker 1:There's no public transportation for real, so non-stop niggas are listening to they just want to be turnt while driving, versus here we need music that you're not gonna fucking want to listen to a whole Migos album riding the subway. Like you get what I'm saying you need. So you need balance with New York. So I think for me it was just finding that perfect balance, like and be able to create a mixture of music where, all right, this would be great for the club, this would be great for the car, this would be great for public transportation, or, like you just trying to get your mom right.
Speaker 2:New York definitely requires a balance, Do you think? Do you think, I guess, coming from the background that you come from musically and then now entering this climate, you don't feel no pressure? Nah you just feel prepared.
Speaker 1:I just feel like it is what it is Hate going to always be there. Expectations going to always be there. All I got to do is just show up and do what I do Because it's been working this fall. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's really how I operate. It's been working this fall. Even before I dropped my project in August, people was like yo, when you going to drop some music, when you going to drop some music. And I was like all right, I dropped Halo to Music, Go listen.
Speaker 2:How did your dad feel about you taking it seriously?
Speaker 1:We don't really talk. We just start really talking about it now. So it's like you can't say nothing. It's like you got a lot of emotion. The only shit I could do is be supportive of it. Like before, it was just like all right, we're gonna see what you're gonna do now.
Speaker 2:It's just like all right, but I feel like that one freestyle in the car should have been the one where he's like ah, that was a few other freestyles before that.
Speaker 1:That like that he heard, that wasn't, that didn't go get put out, and he was like something there yeah, but he just don't, he won't say it to you like he's real, like he's a gemini okay, he'll tell other people, but he can't he can't let you know that's funny.
Speaker 2:That's just dads for you. Actually, my dad's the same way. Love you pops, but I know um all right, so um, you're dropping tapes this year and and then are we getting an album. Are you trying to sign? Are you doing the independent route?
Speaker 1:Like what's the plan? Yes, I got multiple projects dropping and shit. I would love to sign just for the experience. I feel like that's fire to have. I have been in conversations with different labels and everything. Do I want to sign. I want to do whatever makes the most sense. So if I could run this shit up independently, I'd do that. But there are certain access that labels have that you won't get independently until you hit a certain ceiling or a certain peak. So it's like if it makes sense, I'm gonna do it, whether that be signing, remaining independent, a partnership, whatever makes sense.
Speaker 2:I get it now. The machine is the machine at the end of the day yeah, you can't do nothing about that machine you know. I see they doing mad budget cuts and it looks like is taking a different turn, especially, I think music is taking a different turn yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like right now, music was well, 24, 2024. Music is going back like it's a hard reset on music, thank god. But prior to like the last, I say, seven years, music was in that weird phase, like from 2007 to 2014. You remember that phase when like just rad, weird shit was coming out, like you had songs like Looking Boy Party, like a Rockstar you get what I'm saying. It was just mad, just non-traditional records that was blowing up and it was just like Walk it Out is not one of those, by the way.
Speaker 2:Walk it Out is definitely not one of those. It's really not. But go ahead. I hear you.
Speaker 1:It is a Atlanta classic.
Speaker 2:Yo, and then the andre 3000 remix.
Speaker 1:Every time I hear it. You're gonna act like jim jones ain't have a crazy verse on that.
Speaker 2:See, we're not gonna do that but we're not gonna do that it's andre 3000, we know that salute to jim jones, because out of dipset, jim jones is the only one that's still fucking putting shit out. But andre 3000, don't walk it out. That is the and we.
Speaker 1:And we got to give Jim Jones his credit. Jim Jones was like a hype man. I know, so for him to have the career he had is like he really came around a lot of niggas.
Speaker 2:But he be putting in the work he did.
Speaker 1:Like he's the only one that still actively. Hard work beats talent, if talent don't work hard.
Speaker 2:That's true. Yeah, I know I salute to Jim Jones, but when it comes to walking out, don't act like that was the moment. The moment was obviously Andre.
Speaker 1:It was Out. It was Andre because Andre 3000 don't put out a lot of music. That's why it was Andre.
Speaker 2:It wasn't Andre, because he just Yo, whatever the fuck the reason is, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1:It does, though that was the moment With rap. There are a lot of submenantics you got to keep in mind with certain verses and songs and stuff.
Speaker 2:Sure, nah, not with that, but okay.
Speaker 1:This is.
Speaker 2:Why? Why you say that?
Speaker 1:That's with anything, even R&B. Amber Hole came through with the Baldy, then R Kelly come through with the Baldy. Amber Hole ain't been the same since.
Speaker 2:But you think that's on purpose.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, Bro, think about it Atlanta artists look like New York artists right now and Chicago artists look like Atlanta artists.
Speaker 2:Atlanta artists look like New York artists right now.
Speaker 1:A boogie came in had niggas wearing their Marys. Atlanta niggas start wearing their Marys. Chicago, niggas wearing their Marys Niggas every state right now looks the same.
Speaker 2:I gotta be honest, I don't think that New York is the leader of the pack with that.
Speaker 1:With fashion, you bugging the fuck out.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not you bugging the fuck out, I'm gonna say this, and I go to many cities and work with artists, but something about New York New Yorkers care more about fashion than they do music. That's not true.
Speaker 3:No, wait, wait, wait. I'm not going to let you do that.
Speaker 2:These niggas are going to blow their whole bag on a new wardrobe and then don't have no marketing budget and then wonder why the fuck they can't do their music. I'm telling you Hell no, new York. City artists are so worried about how the fuck they look and what the fuck they got opposed to actually working towards the music.
Speaker 1:That's not true. You hear the music that's coming out of everywhere else. That should be ass. Okay, new York got the best rappers, but New York artists don't get the shine because the DJs here are not in the streets. That is not true, it is a fact and all of our rappers are scammers, so of course you're going to be fly. Niggas is getting money. Why wouldn't I be fly? You said all who rappers, all of the artists up here and their friends, and everybody is scammers.
Speaker 1:Nigga there's scammers everywhere Nah but not like New York.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Not like New York. All right, I just.
Speaker 1:New York on a different level, like look at Detroit, detroit artists don't focus. Detroit got they all. This music is OD crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying their music is OD yes and no. Is their music OD no? They got a wave right now.
Speaker 1:They having a wave and I love Detroit artists. I love like they beat, I like their whole flow.
Speaker 2:I'm saying New York's not leading the pack because it's and music or fashion.
Speaker 3:In either and I think rocky made niggas wearing rick owens right now. Niggas wearing rick owens right now. Niggas are wearing rick owens right now. Right, listen, right now niggas are wearing rick owens because rocky made it cool to wear rick owens. Oh my god, did he not? Did rocky not make it? Did rocky not make it cool to wear rick owens? Did rocky not make it cool for niggas to wear skinny?
Speaker 2:jeans, that's 2010.
Speaker 3:Did he not do it? Niggas wasn't wearing skinny jeans since the 80s, before ASAP came out. No, yes, what Wayne Wayne? Wayne started wearing skinny jeans because he was hanging in New York. Wayne's style is, you said, rocky.
Speaker 2:Rocky started that I'm telling you. Wayne is the one who started the way Wayne not start that.
Speaker 1:Hold on.
Speaker 3:Lil Wayne was never a fashion icon and he got the red skinny jeans from fucking Get Light Niggas. Get Light Niggas was wearing colorful jeans, getting light. I don't like your tone.
Speaker 2:Am I lying? Y'all are from New York, am I?
Speaker 3:lying? Am I lying? Wayne's stylist has always been from New York.
Speaker 2:I know Wayne was fucking with New York niggas so I'm not gonna say when wayne went crazy.
Speaker 1:Look the one who, when wayne, when wayne went babe crazy, he got that from currency, right, but, and did yes and no, and, and if you watch a recent interview, currency just did, you know who he said the first artist he seen when babe and bbc for real, jayda kiss for real jayda I swear to god, I'm not even giving him that.
Speaker 3:all right, fine, we started this shit.
Speaker 2:Fine, fine, fine, fine we did this, but I feel like everything you just named is like shit that was hot 2010 Soho kid shit.
Speaker 1:And it's still going. Lil Yachty dress like he hang in Soho.
Speaker 2:But it's like is that really what it's now?
Speaker 3:It's a pride.
Speaker 2:I feel like if I see that, it makes me feel like high school, it makes me feel like I'm entering college again, like I'm not trying to wear that.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's you. You have a sense of identity, but these niggas don't got no Shout out to DMV. These niggas don't have identity. All right, okay, if they did, why everybody got dreads? Why? Why does everybody have dreads? These niggas don't got identities. Okay, when everybody had braids, guess what nelly had? He had a fate. Like these niggas lack identity.
Speaker 2:the best artists are the ones who have identity can't disagree with you on that, but I will, I guess, my whole thing, regardless of who started what or who's inspired by what, is that? Because of the social media, everybody is just inspired by everybody started all this shit, these niggas singing got that from max b.
Speaker 1:New york started all of this shit. We've been leading the pack. Niggas. Just don't give us our credit. Niggas are singing because of max.
Speaker 3:No, yes what no niggas are singing because of max b. Ask wiz khalifa, who his biggest influence is, when him and kylie was doing the harmonizing and shit.
Speaker 1:and when him and fucking Kanye was arguing on Twitter, when Kanye was about to name his album Waves, you heard what Wiz said Nigga, you got that from Max B. Nigga, max B influenced me. Max is the founder of this fucking harmonizing shit.
Speaker 2:When you say you mean Drake-style rap, rap, or you mean I'm talking about singing.
Speaker 1:All of the harmonizing and all of that that niggas is doing is because of Max B. How Boogie put it together, all of that is a descendant of Max B, bro. Max started this shit. New York started this shit. We started this shit. No matter where it's hot at in a moment, we are the forefathers for this shit. Roddy Ricch is an la artist who was doing. Who harmonizes? True, who the fucking la harmonizes by the way besides nate dole
Speaker 2:god bless the day I didn't think rowdy was from new york.
Speaker 1:I thought rowdy was from atlanta I did too at first, but he from, he from la and he put on for la he did, he does, but he gives more.
Speaker 2:At vibe, I mean designers sounding like future. What's that?
Speaker 1:I have no idea.
Speaker 2:It's just all a blend right now but that's what niggas don't have identity. Well, that's why I fuck with your tape.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:That's why I fucking say because you're just in a lane of your own right now, so just talk to me about these freestyles.
Speaker 1:When do you think I recorded those?
Speaker 2:I mean, they just freestyle, so I assume you probably just did them and then put them out, nah, like within the the newest one was the looking at me All the mother shits from 2013, the early 2023 and 2022. Oh, these are old as fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you're just getting this. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They just can't fuck with me. So just imagine what all of the new shit sound like. But I think it was just a matter of feeling like New York, and then for me it'd be working like lyrical exercise, like you got to just practice, you feel me, you got to practice, practice, you feel me like practice. So it's like y'all need to put something out now, and I don't want to just put my project out, especially with all the conversations with different labels and shit, because then I could just give them these projects and be like all right, yeah, how does it?
Speaker 2:I feel like usually people sit on stuff so long that they be over it are you like that, or yeah, I don't like.
Speaker 1:once I get it out it's, I'm cool on it, I'm up for it.
Speaker 2:All right, Is what was I going to say? Freestyles bringing back the nostalgia. Do you have, like, any other plans to kind of, I guess, recreate what rap used to feel like outside of the freestyles, Because it is an interesting place to be in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody else is doing it. I feel like me. I bought style was like. It feels like what new york would feel, like it ain't fucking drill music, it ain't harmonizing, it's legit, just like rap, good rap like. I can hear that from a new york artist. It's great songs, it's music for women that women enjoy. I make music for niggas that, like women Like a lot of these artists, don't like women. They like sex with women, but they don't like women.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You feel me Like niggas. Rather be around a bunch of men than all of that. Like I like women. Like if I go to the club I don't want to see a bunch of niggas fucking getting sturdy in one session.
Speaker 2:You feel me.
Speaker 1:Like, let the women sit, Like you feel me Like women get dressed. Women know music better than men Like. So if women not bopping and shit, women don't like your shit, bro. You're doing some bullshit. Think about it. All of the drill music got niggas beefing and doing crazy shit and wearing pooch-ice these that shit feel intense, crazy shit, and we ain't push ice these that should feel you, feel me. Women get uncomfortable when they see that shit like. So I'm just here to make women comfortable again.
Speaker 2:I like that. I'm just here to make women comfortable again. You need to do that as merch. I like that.
Speaker 1:I do, you could design it okay, stay less.
Speaker 2:Um, all right. So bringing the freestyles back, bringing back women to the Forefront and music uh, what about videos?
Speaker 1:videos. Videos is going to be crazy. All the videos is going to be a vibe. It's not going to be some going to be like run and gun, but most of it is going to be a vibe, so it's going to be. I want it to feel like what I grew up on watching BET film me like. I want it to feel just like that. I don't want it to just be on some. All right, they shot this boom like nah, like let's, let's, let's put money into it. Like let's go rent a house, let's go fly out the state, let's do shit like that and make it fun shit, I'm looking forward to that you doing visuals for one of them ones and uh yeah, we did the looking at me one.
Speaker 1:I think I'm gonna do an all I need visual um and I'll probably do the Welcome to Yonkers. It'll probably be like a run and gun when it gets warm out and everybody chilling on a block. That's my vibe. The All I Need one was hard as fuck. Word. That was my favorite joint. That's my favorite one on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's play a game. It's called Questions that Need Answers. Dun, dun, dun a game. It's called questions that need answers. All you gotta do is fill in the blank. I'm ready the older I get, the less I blink the older I get, the less I care.
Speaker 1:I didn't care now like that. The older I get, the less, the less I like young people damn what you mean their taste no, young niggas ignorant as fuck oh, you're young though yeah, but young niggas are like young niggas is like bro, like what's up, like niggas is burnt out what do you think it is?
Speaker 2:who's the you?
Speaker 1:really want me to break this down right now.
Speaker 2:Social media.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:So the Reagan era and all of that like it affected our grandparents and some great-grandparents, right, they got hooked on the drugs, the hard drugs, coke, crack, all of that shit, heroin, Yep. So our parents essentially not mine, nobody in here like would be future crack babies, dope babies, right. So boom, whether they really suffered from it or not. Like that boom. Then that generation niggas born in the 70s, 80s got on e-pills in the 90s, so and then it would be our generation of niggas who fucking Like you get what I'm saying, it's just like. It's like the drugs is just A nigga system and it's just changing what drugs they choose to use.
Speaker 2:That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:So this shit is all the government fault.
Speaker 2:And even if you want To crack baby, I blame the CIA.
Speaker 1:Huh, I blame the CIA.
Speaker 2:Fair enough. J Edgar Hoover Yup, yeah, alright, I can't believe I actually blinked when I was younger.
Speaker 1:Can't believe I actually believed women, damn.
Speaker 2:What, what, sorry Okay.
Speaker 3:Yo, why we gotta? Why are?
Speaker 1:you doing shots at us. I'm not, but word bro.
Speaker 2:You can't believe. You actually believed in women who lied to you.
Speaker 1:Bro, nah, I got a big family, but I got a lot of female cousins.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And a lot of female friends. Women are evil bro.
Speaker 2:Niggas be evil too.
Speaker 1:No, niggas be dumb. Women are evil. Women are evil. Broiggas be evil too. No, niggas be dumb. Women are evil. Women are evil, bro. You be on Twitter. You see this shit. They say I hate.
Speaker 2:Twitter. By the way, Word Twitter is so toxic. I feel like.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna lie. You gotta get in tune. Women are fucked up, bro. Niggas is fucked up too. No, niggas, be cum women are all every guy. I don't know one guy who origin story just started cuz he just like I'm gonna be a fuckboy one day. That shit Started from a girl doing some fuck shit. Okay, sure if I lie, had your origin. Did your origin story start from a girl doing some fuck shit? You see what I'm saying. Mine too. Niggas do fuck shit, too niggas do fuck shit. After fuck shit was done.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. Niggas do fuck shit. And then girls aren't even allowed to have a villain story, because no women just start off awesome, you know what it is.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is perfect. Women are and their women are so much in competition with each other and other women's, like I've done, sat around my female friends and they talk about oh, this just happened to me, and they'd be like I never had this happen to me. And then they go do some shit to make it happen to them. It's just like like they just want to compare and shit like so much so they could be in agreeance with each other. Us niggas they could be like yo. Nah, this shit happened to me. Like shit that ain't never happened to me.
Speaker 2:Like I'm cool Lord, and that like and you don conversation thing for y'all, like y'all gotta stop talking. I'll say no, niggas need to stop talking and I'll say that I feel like everybody needs to experience life like I'm not saying to compete with other people, to have more trauma stories or better.
Speaker 1:No, but that's what it really is. Right, look, but that's what I said. People lack identities and I think that's my whole brand is about being an individual, because men like right now, especially seeing rap. It was a point in time when all artists had different chains. Things might have had jacob watches had different chains, things had different styles, right even down to the women. But now it's like whoever starts saying birkin bags and all the girls want birkin bags, down to the who's bartenders want birkin bags I'm telling you that should is just because of social media.
Speaker 3:Because they be wanting to be like each other.
Speaker 2:Even on Twitter, like I do think like social media encourages women to want to like one-up or big-up, like the next woman, but I do feel like men be online looking at.
Speaker 1:When we was growing up.
Speaker 2:I'm fine, I'm going to cut you off right Wigs was for old women.
Speaker 1:Okay, when the fuck y'all start wearing wigs After Nicki Minaj, when Lil Kim was wearing colored wigs? Women wasn't doing that. Women was doing they own thing.
Speaker 2:That's artistry. Eyelashes.
Speaker 3:When the fuck y'all start getting.
Speaker 1:Extended eyelashes. Like it's just like. It's certain shit, just like Yo, like y'all, start getting extended eyelids.
Speaker 2:Like it's just like it's certain shit, just like yo like y'all, just want to be like each other. They look good though. No, no, no, no BBLs, everybody got the same BBL, Okay, okay okay, like that, shit is just corny, bro.
Speaker 3:I can't speak on BBL, but it's just corny.
Speaker 2:Everybody corny as fuck Yo. Your hair can grow while you wear a wig. Keep it braided. Let your hair grow Like it actually helps you it does. And eyelashes they just make your eyes look bigger, like it's an amplifier. Amplifies the beauty. That's like you not getting a lineup Nigga, you need that lineup. That shit amplifies your face Like it shapes your face.
Speaker 1:Nah, yes, earrings amplify.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure it doesn't matter. Don't come for bitches because they want to wear wigs and earrings. I'm cool.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the natural women. Don't let nobody tell you natural women not in man. All that extra shit, that shit, corny, just throw on some lip gloss with some lip liner and you got it. Nice French tips.
Speaker 2:I can't deny that. We're here.
Speaker 1:We're here with that, you feel me and stop wearing lingerie to the club. That shit not sexy.
Speaker 2:Is there anything else you want to get off?
Speaker 1:It is a few things.
Speaker 2:It is a few things I feel like men be hating women Because of shit they see on Twitter, not realizing that Twitter is not real there are real bitches out here.
Speaker 1:Twitter is not real but it's dope. But then you got like the women who are real being sidetracked by that shit, like it'd be like no, these niggas is we already established that niggas is corny, niggas are fucking losers as long as we're saying yo niggas be sidetracked, it's losers, bro, like these. These niggas are losers like all, jokes aside, niggas are really losers niggas are going twitter.
Speaker 2:Niggiggas are going Twitter.
Speaker 1:Niggas don't like women. These niggas don't like. Not for nothing. If I can't say this, I don't want to be canceled, but if being a member of the LGBTQ plus community was celebrated, it'd be a lot more gay men and openly gay men in the world.
Speaker 2:I think so too, Especially out here, Like you feel me.
Speaker 1:Like niggas want to be other men Like this shit is these niggas is losers. No, it's a lot going on. But women are destroying themselves with the surgeries and all of these unrealistic expectations, because think about it.
Speaker 2:And you don't think women are doing that because of what they're seeing online. What men like online?
Speaker 1:No, but think about this you done been in a store. You done like some shit. You ain't buy it. You done been in the store you done like some shit. You ain't buy it, you ain't take it home, you just liked it. It was cool, it looked nice, all right. You didn't take it home. Niggas like some shit, like it might look nice, that ass might look fat, but I'm gonna go home here with this yeah, but niggas, some niggas, is going home with it no, some niggas, they're paying for it.
Speaker 1:These niggas don't got no game niggas treating it like trophies, these niggas yo you gotta remember, especially with artists or niggas who just start getting money. Before niggas became cool, like a lot of these niggas ain't him like so before they got some money or cool or any clout niggas ain't have no girls like niggas ain't know how to talk to, these niggas was losers. Like like you feel me like I know niggas that just start getting money since the pandemic and all of that.
Speaker 2:Now they bro you like, come on, let's be real I know you wasn't that I know these niggas, but the world doesn't know, because perception is reality to them, so that's why they get it and you meet niggas like me or other niggas who know them and be like bro.
Speaker 1:That's not true, bro.
Speaker 2:That ain't true but what can we do? The the world? The world isn't holding.
Speaker 3:Be an individual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can encourage that, but the world don't give a fuck. It's whatever's the loudest, whatever's the most popular.
Speaker 1:Be an individual.
Speaker 2:I think authenticity will shine through. But we're here now.
Speaker 1:Then that's why I'm here to change this shit.
Speaker 2:Thank God. Then that's all. I'm here to change this shit, thank God. Oh, no, bbl bandits in my videos. Bbl bandits, that's the nickname for them. All right, some BBLs are very well done, though I will say no, they are Some are very well done If you got a nice BBL. I respect it, I commend it. But I think they could be in the video. You feel me, I think the obnoxious ones are obnoxious, I think, when it's like cute man, listen, okay, okay no.
Speaker 1:BBL bandits in here. Nah, you got to think, bro. You got to Because, you being a BBL, now you got to hit the gym. And a lot of them do, by the way, why you only just hit the gym before.
Speaker 2:All right, anyway, I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about. I'm so mad, you said women be lying. Like niggas, don't be lying.
Speaker 1:No, these niggas is liars too. They lying about their lives, but I'm embarrassed that I know little about skating.
Speaker 2:You don't know how to skate.
Speaker 1:No, like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Gotta learn how to skate. It's fun.
Speaker 1:I know the basics, but like I don't know Gotta learn how to skate. It's fun. I know the basics, but like I wouldn't do ollies and shit like that.
Speaker 2:Skateboard or like rollerblades.
Speaker 1:No rollerblades, niggas can't fuck with me on the inline, can't fuck with me.
Speaker 2:All right. Sometimes I look back at my life and blink.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I look back on my life and think why the fuck did I want to be an adult?
Speaker 2:Talk about it.
Speaker 1:Ghetto hair Stupid as hell.
Speaker 2:I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked.
Speaker 1:Believe the woman.
Speaker 2:You have to stop. You have to fucking stop man who hurt you. Why do you keep attacking us?
Speaker 1:Nah, nobody hurt me. Nah, I made a complete fool of myself when I expected shit from other people.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, don't People ain't shit. That's across the board. It has nothing to do with gender.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you as a man you less likely to believe another man, unless that's like a close friend, somebody you really like them with.
Speaker 2:Don't believe none of these niggas. Adults, niggas, adults, niggas your age, men, women, it don't matter. This shit has nothing to do. Stop attacking us. I want you to know.
Speaker 1:It's a people thing I'm not attacking y'all.
Speaker 2:People ain't shit across the board.
Speaker 1:No, people ain't shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's period, but Stop Nah, nigga, stop Nah.
Speaker 3:Alright.
Speaker 1:Niggas ain't shit. Yo bro niggas ain't shit. Yo bro niggas, ain't these niggas. I just told you, see, it's easier to say without attacking niggas. It's like these niggas is losers, these niggas got no identities. So across the board you can just look like, yeah, that nigga he burnt out. Women will really tell you yo, nah, I'm not that way.
Speaker 2:And then pow.
Speaker 1:Nah, y'all don't be reading between with a nigga. Say you first start talking to a nigga, a nigga be like yo, nah, I'm on some cool shit, that's a lot. What the fuck does cool shit mean? Y'all not reading the fine print in what niggas be saying.
Speaker 2:niggas will tell you they a fucking loser bro, and you just y'all don't be seeing this shit sure and niggas will be lying niggas alive and stick to they life for a good 3 months, 3 to 6 months, women will die lying.
Speaker 1:Women be giving birth to men, kids, and knowing that, ain't that man kid? And having them raise them a nigga ain't never did that a nigga ain't never did that.
Speaker 2:That's some fucked up shit.
Speaker 3:A nigga ain't never did that Nigga know it, nigga gon' say he ain't his kid, but a nigga ain't never. A nigga can't even make you raise another person's kid. Without you, you ain't give birth to it.
Speaker 2:I know that ain't my kid, but niggas is having kids outside of they family. Don't act like nigg.
Speaker 1:No, they are doing that, but a nigga ain't making you raise a kid that ain't yours. You will carry a kid for 10 months, 9 months, 10 months and make a nigga think it's his kid.
Speaker 2:Yo, you got to stay off Twitter. Nah, that shit is real bro, you got to stay off Twitter. Nah, you know why. There's some healthy relationships out there. I ain't no healthy relationships, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, there's some healthy relationships.
Speaker 2:The you to know these two fine gentlemen back here just got married or been married. They got good women that support them word yes, your thing is crazy nah, I'm fucking with you.
Speaker 1:I see, I would love to be married. I would love to get married, you feel me, um. But someday nah, I'm a little scarred because I've met married individuals who told me not to be, not to get married, or like I've met married men. No, I've met married men who said shit. I met married women who said shit.
Speaker 2:It just like wow I think you just gotta find the right person. That's it find the right person and be a good balance. I feel like a lot of people, especially like older couples. It's circumstance.
Speaker 1:Nah, because even our grandparents wasn't shit. The side bitches just held it down and our grandfathers did what they had to do.
Speaker 2:Look, different era, different era. You could do things based off love.
Speaker 1:Now, Nothing is based off love. Think about it From the beginning of time. Look at every Disney fucking, every romantic movie, comedy, disney movie right.
Speaker 2:Disney's is bullshit, though.
Speaker 1:Disney is folklore. Let's look at Holes. Holes, yeah, stanley L Nutt Sr. The father traded the daughter to whoever gave him the biggest pig. From the beginning of time, niggas would arrange marriages off of wealth. Bro, this shit was never based off love. People always ran away with the person that they wasn't supposed to be with for love. That's why so many side bitches and side niggas in the world Because that's what they really love. That's what they really love. That's what they really love. Now we're in an era where you can do for love. You can, if you want to. You have a choice. Yes, you know you can. Women will not stick with you if you ain't gotten, if you cannot provide a good woman will, and she'll help you.
Speaker 1:You know what helps you lead with the top things and leading divorces, bad sex or finance.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And religion.
Speaker 2:Definitely finance. I'm not saying it's okay. I personally don't think you should date while broke.
Speaker 1:Love is a fucking idea.
Speaker 2:You shouldn't date while broke, but I think love is real.
Speaker 1:Love is an idea. Okay, explain love. What is love?
Speaker 2:Love is what is love.
Speaker 1:What is love?
Speaker 2:Love is an act. Love is a choice.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Love is a choice, but there's.
Speaker 1:Cameron. What is Cameron? You feel that for a person, right, you feel for a person. So love is an idea of a bunch of things put into one pot.
Speaker 2:I'll say this when getting married I think it's love plus this, that and that Then why you got to sign a contract. I thought you said you wanted to get married. Why are you questioning it?
Speaker 1:I said I would love to get married. I didn't say I'm guaranteed to get married.
Speaker 2:Well, I hope you get married and I hope the questions that you have in regards to it get figured out along the way, but I think once you find a person, because life is lonely as fuck.
Speaker 1:Who said I didn't find a person?
Speaker 2:Okay, so I hope you and your person figure it out. You need somebody to be with you on your journey. Everybody deserves that. I feel like oh fuck, do you really?
Speaker 1:But you got to be selfish.
Speaker 2:Who got to be selfish?
Speaker 1:If you got a career that you're chasing right, a goal that you're chasing, how can you focus on loving a person, giving a person what they need, the attention and time, and all of that and your career. It's all balanced.
Speaker 1:There's no way to balance that figure it out, not a basketball player, only gonna get better if they always in the gym, they on time to practice, they stay late and they going hard and they really, they really zeroed in on what they doing Well, date somebody who's going just as hard for what their passions are.
Speaker 2:and then you guys just meet.
Speaker 1:A lot of people don't got passions these days.
Speaker 2:Well then, don't date a passionless woman. Stay out there, because men be thinking they want a passionate woman who's career focused and shit like that, and then they get one, and then they're using this don't be having nothing going on.
Speaker 1:That's why I'd be bothering them. That's the problem. Yeah right, she telling these niggas is loses.
Speaker 2:Alright, last one is my personality trait is Blake.
Speaker 1:My personality trait is being an asshole.
Speaker 2:I see that.
Speaker 1:Scorpio.
Speaker 2:Oh hell yo, that makes perfect, fucking sense.
Speaker 1:Okay, what is an asshole? Is it just brutally honest?
Speaker 2:Two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 1:That was mean.
Speaker 2:Make sure y'all follow J1 on Instagram. If y'all haven't already. Tap into one of them. Ones His new EP that's out right now yeah, soundcloud, youtube and on Untitled. Untitled. I love that app.
Speaker 1:You feel me Untitled? Is fire right? You like how I pulled that off right? That's tough, that was tough.
Speaker 2:But shout out to Graham, so they know where to follow you.
Speaker 1:You can follow me at ReallyJ1. Juan Ornugg, J-A-E-W-O-N-O-R-N-U-G-G. You feel me I might say some shit that you don't like on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't follow the Twitter and I don't mind arguing with nobody.
Speaker 1:Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Until next time, guys, because I'm tired of arguing. You ain't lying about that. Until next time, guys. Peace.
Speaker 1:Peace.
Speaker 2:I think everyone in the DMV is behind. How?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean dc not dc, kind of like proactive. And how the fuck is maryland behind? How's maryland not? You ain't give me one way that it isn't I?
Speaker 2:okay, let me just go back to my first statement. We're a step up from atlanta, because atlanta is so black hollywood, it's so focused on the wrong shit.
Speaker 1:We're like at least in dc, but is's so focused on the wrong shit when, like at least in DC, but is it really focused on the wrong shit?
Speaker 2:I feel like it's focused on the wrong shit. Where in DC there's some class to it?
Speaker 1:DC is like DC is Morehouse. If it was a location.
Speaker 2:Howard. We don't need a Morehouse if we have a Howard.
Speaker 1:But Howard people aren't bougie Like Morehouse. We have a Howard, but Howard people aren't bougie Like DC, like Morehouse and Spelman, isn't that a? Good thing no.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Nah, DC is very stuck up and bougie.
Speaker 2:I thought you just said Howard's, not bougie.
Speaker 1:No, Howard, the school ain't, but the district of Columbia is very bougie. And they ghetto as fuck too All right.
Speaker 2:When's the last time you've been to DC?
Speaker 1:It's been a while, but I know they ghetto as fuck.
Speaker 2:No, I think you have the wrong impression. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I know people from DC too.
Speaker 2:And they're great people, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:Terrible people.
Speaker 2:Who you met, somebody in college, you know, college really be your representation in different cities.
Speaker 1:I really know People in DC, isn't they fucking with bright-ass colors?
Speaker 2:Oh no, we have the best fashion.
Speaker 1:Y'all do not.
Speaker 2:We definitely have the best fashion.
Speaker 1:Y'all have good pieces, but y'all don't got the best fashion.
Speaker 2:No, we don't. I think people sleep on Wale, wale, really, wale really Baleza like he's a mix between hype beast and comfort.
Speaker 1:Is it really hype, beast though it is? I don't think so it is.
Speaker 2:That nigga was really leading the pack with phone posits, new balances.
Speaker 1:I mean, but that's because y'all believed that we was wearing that type of shit up here. No, the fuck, y'all wasn't how you know.
Speaker 2:No, the fuck, y'all wasn't. Y'all was wearing Timbs.
Speaker 1:Y'all was wearing Timbs. No, we was not Chubbs. Can you tell her?
Speaker 2:Y'all was wearing New Balances.
Speaker 1:Yes, since when we been wearing that, my great-grandfather was wearing 990s with Dickies. All of my youth. What year, too, mean he been wearing that from 96?
Speaker 2:until he died in 2011. Anyway,