Welcome to #WeNeedToTalk, where conversations transcend boundaries! Hosted by the dynamic #NylaSymone, this episode features the incomparable #AmandaReifer. Join us as Amanda shares her extraordinary journey, from meeting Kendrick Lamar to leading a band in Barbados. Get ready for exclusive insights into her creative process, plus tantalizing hints about her upcoming projects. Don't miss this captivating discussion that promises to inspire and entertain!
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Welcome to #WeNeedToTalk, where conversations transcend boundaries! Hosted by the dynamic #NylaSymone, this episode features the incomparable #AmandaReifer. Join us as Amanda shares her extraordinary journey, from meeting Kendrick Lamar to leading a band in Barbados. Get ready for exclusive insights into her creative process, plus tantalizing hints about her upcoming projects. Don't miss this captivating discussion that promises to inspire and entertain!
Talk Soon! ✌🏾
Stay connected! Follow @wnttlk on all platforms.
I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked.
Speaker 2:I mean wait what.
Speaker 1:Who you laughing?
Speaker 2:off screen, my first time at the Grammys, nominated at the Grammy. We get there and I'm in this incredible gown that I have just never worn anything like it. Like when it touched my body I was in tears because I couldn't imagine I was wearing something like this. And I'm on there and I'm there with my manager and.
Speaker 2:I just am like so when do we get on the red carpet? Right, because I'm just excited. This is so cool. I've only ever she's like look down. Right, you were on the carpet. I looked down and was like oh, so we're on here.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're on here.
Speaker 2:All right, cool, cool, cool. So yeah, I made a fool of myself. Luckily there weren't that many people to hear me ask that question.
Speaker 1:We hadn't really gone too far down.
Speaker 2:But I was on it already for a good long time. Hey guys, this is Amanda Reefer. You might know me from Die Hard with Kendra Lamar and Blast. I got new files on the way. Nyla, we need to talk though.
Speaker 1:What's going on, guys? Nyla Simone here with another episode of we Need To Talk. What's going on, guys? Nyla Simone here with another episode of we Need To Talk, and today I got a very special guest all the way from Barbados. I have Amanda Reefer in the building. How are you Hi?
Speaker 2:I'm good. How are you doing, nyla? I'm good. It's so good to see you. I love this outfit, thank you. I'm here just staring at your face and thinking to myself how flawless, oh my God. Like teach me. I told you I need to know. Whatever that is, I want it. Did you do your makeup this morning?
Speaker 1:I did my makeup but it don't look like your makeup. It looks good, though it does. It does. It looks really really good and I love how you wear your hair. Thank you very, very funky. All your artwork is always like funky, with a lot of personality too um, it's an ode to my culture, my heritage in barbados.
Speaker 2:We have, um, historically, we have these women who we call them mobby women, and they carry, like these I don't know what you call them containers of a drink called Mabi. It's like a traditional Bajan drink, okay, and they go around town and it's huge and they serve it and it was just like a historic thing for us and it's just so much charm and charisma and grace, and so this is inspired by that. Is it heavy? No, it's not heavy not heavy.
Speaker 1:What is the drink like?
Speaker 2:made of Mabi yeah, it's actually like from the bark of a. It's not heavy, not heavy, no, no. What is the drink like? Made of Mabi? Yeah, it's actually like from the bark of a tree, but it's like a syrup and you mix it with water. It's an acquired taste. If you've never had it before, I'll say that, but it is one of our traditional drinks called Mabi. Wow, but it's. There are not many. No, we don't really see it walking around like that in town anymore, but this is an ode to that.
Speaker 1:I love that, so does, or I guess is it more of like a tradition thing. So if you guys are celebrating like people will bring it out.
Speaker 2:No, you can drink Mabie anytime, girl, if you want Mabie. No, you can drink it Morning, breakfast, noon, lunch, dinner, whatever you want.
Speaker 1:Nice noon, lunch, dinner, whatever you want. Nice, okay, I really want to go to barbado, that I gotta admit. Especially after hearing your beach snob stories I'm like now I gotta go check it out you have to.
Speaker 2:And what? Just be prepared? That once you go and you swim in our water, you will be ruined like you'll never want to you'll never want to swim in any other water unless you can see your whole full toes all 10 of them when you step in the water I mean, makes sense.
Speaker 1:I think that's how it's supposed to be so.
Speaker 2:I'm like wow, this is fascinating. Because that's like all you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I love it. So, growing up in Barbados, just tell me what that was like and how it kind of influenced you musically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean growing up in Barbados like you've seen it. It's fantastic. It's a place that's big on community and so I feel we're good to each other and we're good to visitors and people. And so when I was growing up, you know, I grew up in the country of Barbados, which is like around like a lot agricultural land and like sugarcane fields, and so I was barefoot most of the time. I was definitely outdoors.
Speaker 1:Did you like garden and farm?
Speaker 2:I didn't farm. My granny has a farm, so I used to visit her farm and like look at the pigs and all that stuff and the chickens and all that.
Speaker 2:Me personally, I wasn't farming, but I was on a farm a lot of time during my childhood. And then also it's such a small island, so not only do you get that country life and that country air and that rootedness to the earth, you get that country life and that country air and that rootedness to the earth, but we got the beach and we have, like, incredible food and culture and, um, everyone's always sharing. So I, I love that. And musically, you know, we grew up we listening to, of course, the old right, old school reggae records and dance hall records and caribbean music soca, calypso, spooge, you know all of that is there, but then we're getting r&b and hip-hop and from outside.
Speaker 1:So it's a real fusion of what we receive and what I grew up listening to and what has influenced me right now as well, musically that makes sense because you're like I can't really put a genre on like the type of music you make, because some things would be like more caribbean, where more things is more pop, some is more r? B. So I guess that that makes sense, based on what you grew up listening to thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a fusion and the the hardest question for me to answer is when people ask me like what, what is your genre of music? So you're saying that because you're you know music, so it's. It's a difficult one for for me as an artist to just put in, uh, in titles, if that makes sense, because my approach to creation is, is, is wide and and true to what I'm feeling, you know so I like that you're able to recognize that blend.
Speaker 2:Thank you it's more like just feel good well, yeah, it's feel good, it's feel vulnerable, it's feel independent and strong. It's attitude is feel love, is feel sexy, is feel all those things.
Speaker 1:It's not all the emotions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel hurt too you know, I definitely try to incorporate all of the elements of who I am and my experience as a young woman and my experience as an artist, all of the different uh different emotions and feelings that I go through and have experienced in my music, you know. So it's not just one thing you're experiencing.
Speaker 1:So what year did you create your first record and actually like put it out, did it start in Barbados or did it start in America?
Speaker 2:It actually started in Barbados. I was the lead singer of a band. We were straight out of secondary school, which for Americans is like high school right.
Speaker 2:So straight out of high school and we were after school, we would go and we would play in the basement, we would put up like songs on YouTube and stuff like that, and that's how we got discovered as a band and we actually got signed over in the UK. We released a lot of music and we had a lot of success over there as a young, feel-good pop band. That's what we made at the time. And then we, after a few years of doing that, we had a number one, three top tens, five top forties over in the UK and Europe and we were doing that and touring. That was great. But after a few years, you know we're growing. We're growing growing up where tastes are expanding and diverting, and so then I decided to do my own, my own project, as well as the others in the band who are doing their other things, and I think that in addition to that, there was just a lot of growth that needed to happen.
Speaker 2:You know you're young and you're figuring yourself out, and so a big part of that skipping over that very long journey was then going home to my family, reconnecting and just getting rooted and deciding what it was I was gonna do as a young woman and to be able to stand on my own feet, not defined by a band of guys around me. It was all guys. It was all guys. Yeah, I was the lead singer. Yeah, that had to be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was fun, it was fun. But it wasn't without its hardships and it wasn't without its struggles behind the scenes a lot too, you know.
Speaker 1:Anytime you work with more than one creative, it's a well. I think you know what I mean, yeah, so that's understandable. But then, on top of that, you're the only girl, so I feel like it's probably really hard to get your point across.
Speaker 2:It's important, I think, for young women to also be able to recognize when it is time for you to center in on your voice. You know, and it's not about dismissing anything else, but it's about recognizing there's a time as a young girl and there's a time as a young woman, and stepping into your womanhood and being able to separate and stand on your own in order to really know that about yourself and know what you can and can't do you know.
Speaker 2:So that is a journey yeah, it's a journey and it's hard like you feel when you you you rely on certain things for so long and certain people. You think that you don't know what to do without them, and so, for sure, it was a lot of recalibrating, a lot of rediscovering and decoding of things I may have picked up or weren't mine, or you know all these different things. So, for young women, I think it's important that you can express yourself authentically and use your voice, because you have to. You have to.
Speaker 1:That's so real. And also the world just doesn't encourage women to do that. So, like a lot of times, you'll second guess yourself, because just you don't see other vocal women. You know what I mean. Or they're called the bitch. But you're right you gotta like reach a point where it's like you gotta be assertive and do what's best for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah like look at what you're doing, you know it's incredible. I love that, like that inspires me. And so, anyway, I set out on that journey, which was I had to really start from scratch, even though, of this history we had had, I had to walk away from a lot of things and really start my journey from scratch, in all areas of life, to be honest, and in my career as well. And so I went home recalibrated and then I was like I gotta be in la because I'm a.
Speaker 1:I'm aware no no, this is before that.
Speaker 2:You know I'm a when something speaks to my heart, I gotta do it. And it doesn't always make sense, and it usually doesn't make sense, and when I think back on, I'm like I can't believe you did that.
Speaker 2:And so moving over to LA was definitely a crazy move for me, because I had to. You know, I didn't have any financial standing or didn't really know that many people I knew a few but I did it. I went over there, slept on some couches, figured it out and decided that, you know, writing was what I knew how to do and I've been writing my whole life and I've been writing my whole life and I've been writing in the band and I know writing can provide for me. It's my art, it sustains me. And so I started writing in LA. I was writing for other people in sessions, in and out, and that led to like producers obviously going oh your shit's dope.
Speaker 2:Sorry your stuff is dope, like are you an artist? And I'll be like, yeah, I'm working on my stuff too. And they'll be like all right, cool, we'll be coming to the session early or stay late and we would work on stuff and I would release via TuneCore, like independently. No one told me that there's a good six week window just for anyone trying to release independently. There is a six week window that you should upload to give yourself time, um, to get considered for things. I didn't know any of that.
Speaker 2:I was just uploading my songs and oh the day before for the next day, um okay, co-directing my own videos on zero dollars, you know, but it's all skills that helped me develop develop yeah and prepare me, and so I found a great team, eventually an incredible team, and um, they're, they're with me always. Title nine is an incredible company and it's a woman owned yeah, carmen, I'm gonna shout you out.
Speaker 1:There you are um and she.
Speaker 2:You know, when we, I told her where I was at, what I had done and where I wanted to go and what I needed, and she is an incredible person. So we partnered and it's just great to have another woman to mentor you, to guide you, to support you and to meet you on a creative level and a business acumen level, in a way that gives you your power, you know, and doesn't take it away, and so we started working together and when you're around great people and you have great people in your corner, like good hearts of people great opportunity shows up too, and, um, that led to an opportunity for me being in the studio. Um and I ran into kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1:I was definitely going to ask can we talk about Die Hard yeah?
Speaker 2:When I say I ran into, it wasn't really like a run in Like it was. It was like I was working on my project in the studio and I turned around and he was there and I did not know he was going to be there, you know, but that opportunity presented itself because of the people I was around. That was just really great and I just it's an opportunity you pray for. It's the kind of moment that you can only dream of. Yeah, and so I played him some of my records that we were working on at a time because we were working on my working on my projects now officially, not just my independent twin core releases, um, and he really liked it and I that that validation was great for me as an artist.
Speaker 2:You know from the master of the pen and you know like that was really an amazing thing to have experienced and that led to me being invited to work with him and his guys and the producers Dahi and Sunwave and all of them on the project. He had an idea for what where I could maybe fit in on something and that was Die Hard and that was just such an incredible. I'm so grateful for that opportunity, which led to the Grammy nomination and I'm just like what, yeah, you know, um, and those guys are just the mad, like you know. You just they're incredible. Yeah, they're incredible musicians and incredible talents and producers and I'm just grateful to have been able to be in that room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's phenomenal. Worked with a goat man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's a very long, short, long version of how music happened for me or is happening for me.
Speaker 1:So how long were you in LA, I guess, before you were able to like, build the team and, you know, start getting into these rooms, because there's a lot of people probably watching, listening and just people that I know who came and be like man. I was in LA five years, dead, broke, you know, on a couch like how long was it for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, years yeah, years I was. I was independent for a few years and trying to figure it out, before I met Carmen at Title IX and before I had the opportunity to work with Soundwave and all of them.
Speaker 1:What kept you going through it? Because, especially as a woman, people look at you like you're nuts. Because you don't have to do this. You know, like that's what I used to get all the time, but you do have to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's what I have to do. This Like music is this is what I do, yeah.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I'll always do it and I'll do it when it, if it pays me or not Like. It's not about that for me. It's about the passion, it's about the how it fulfills me, my ability to express and create and to connect and to share and to have moments like this and to inspire and be inspired and to just keep growing and keep working on my craft. I have to do that, I have to do that. So there's no, there's no, not doing it for me amen to that.
Speaker 1:I love that, love the passion. Um, in regards to being in the studio with Kendrick. So obviously it's Kendrick Drake Cole. You know that's the three-headed goat of rap, but did you like learn or pick up anything like in being in this the session with him?
Speaker 2:all I could do was just sit and try to absorb not even that, but I wanted to be a student as much as I could, in that room with Kendrick um, with Soundwave, with Guy. Like I, I've been trying to absorb as much as I can and learn as much as I can and give the best that I can give. You know, in this moment, because you are presented with something like that, you're sick to your stomach, you're like I have to write and what in front of who you know. But you like, for me, I just had to give the best I could and then try to learn as much as I could, and I really do feel like it has. That experience has taught me a lot and allowed me to now work on a project that I is beyond even what I could have even initially wanted, and that is a lot to do with their direction and learning from them, and I'm just really grateful for that writing experience and that to be able to be in a room to absorb that sort of mastery yeah, that's fire, I think.
Speaker 1:see, I didn't know the back story about the band. I didn't know you come from a band, background From band culture Very loud.
Speaker 2:Very very very loud culture Very loud.
Speaker 1:But also you're just very familiar with production, you know, and kind of like, what you want lower, higher, add this type of thing. So when it comes to, you said you're making your new project, how involved are you on the production side? Or like, how is it? What's your process right now? Oh, man.
Speaker 2:I have been super blessed to work with some of the best, especially on the heels of the Die Hard record, and I am still in reverence and awe of them, you know, being a part of everything. So I but I have based on my history in the band and always having written my songs and being in a studio and working with producers and working independently. When you're independent and things aren't given to you and people can't aren't doing things for you, you have to learn a lot. Resourcefulness is important and that comes from paying attention. So when I'm in the studio, I'm paying attention. I'm understanding the musicianship, I'm understanding the, the production on the musical end, but also I'm working on my own vocal productions. You know I'm doing my arrangements, my harmonies and those things, and all of that comes with years of practice and I didn't start off with all that knowledge, but always just trying to be a student in the moment has has equipped me with that sort of experience and knowledge that I now apply to my work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fire is um. Is there a name already for the project?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't Not yet, Not yet. Okay, it's coming though.
Speaker 1:I'm excited because this is going to be your first official solo project, right? Yes, wow, because everything's just single. You just keep dropping dropping mad things.
Speaker 2:This is your first.
Speaker 1:So I'm like what is the statement? I can't wait to hear the name, because I know it's going to be yeah.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to share with you everything and I'm just eager. You know we're finishing up, but you know a lot of the music too. The music component is so important, and not only in expressing the music. For me, like I told you, like expression for me, period, artistic expression I need to do, and so that also includes visuals. So for this project that's gonna come, you know, we made it a point to really just get rooted in the visuals as well. I go back home to Barbados and work with local, dope, local creatives I say it's not that many, is a few that I wanted to work with, just small, small hand and with our small crew and small, small, zeroed up budget.
Speaker 2:We created all these visuals to kind of give an expression to the music, but from home and from within the culture, supporting the culture, supporting, you know, female owned boutiques and brands, and designers and um, the local creatives, like I mentioned that we worked with um and I directed and co-directed all these visuals with, as well, um, and it's really important to me that when people see see the visuals are going to come, they understand that it is was a very three-man effort. Being the one of those three men, I'm wearing all of the hats. You know it's like here. It's makeup is in front of the camera, behind the camera. It's all of that is is not. It's not in a big production, but if it is intentionally, it's so intentionally so. So it's personal production, but it is intentionally so, intentionally so, so it's personal and so that it is from the lens of inside Barbados and how we experience it, not from outside. Oh, it's so beautiful it is, but this is how we live life here and this is where these songs live in the context of that.
Speaker 1:That's dope. I like that You're taking us into your world. Yeah, come visit me, come to my world of that.
Speaker 2:That's dope. So, yeah, I like that you're taking us into your world. Yeah, literally right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come, come visit me, come to my world, which also, by the way, I've this might just be a personal opinion, but I feel like overproduced videos are like not as great because they're so produced, like some of the best things are low quality because that's when you're really getting people in their most rawest and their most vulnerable. So, personally, I prefer people before they get the budget. Once they get the budget, then it just becomes like fucking.
Speaker 2:No, I think resourcefulness. You're right To be fair, I personally don't sometimes understand what did you do with that budget. But resourcefulness, it inspires creativity, it forces. You don't sometimes understand what did you do with that budget, you know.
Speaker 1:But resourcefulness.
Speaker 2:You know like it inspires it forces you. Yeah, okay, well this is all we have to work with. It forces you to look at things differently and and think with different angles and approaches and be creative with how you achieve things, and it's I can't wait so you can see this stuff, because I would love to tell you all the stories behind it.
Speaker 1:Um, I mean I'm gonna have you back, girl. I'm gonna be asking yeah, you're right, but talk to me about um real bitch juice oh, what rich bitch I mean rich bitch juice, I'm sorry, rich bitch wow, you went back. You went back and listened to that. I, I did. Yeah, I'm like, what was she on? Did you just get your first?
Speaker 2:check. I was on my Rich Bitch Juice I was on my Rich Bitch Juice.
Speaker 1:Did you get? Your first check Was that like a.
Speaker 2:You know what's funny, rich Bitch Juice was like an audio mood board for me, because I didn't have no money when I wrote Rich Bitch Juice.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So Rich Bitch Juice was like I'm speaking this into my life. It was my affirmation song. It was me knowing that that Uber I just took was my dinner for that night you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I'm, like I don't you know, I I gotta speak into my life what it is I want in my life. And so Rich Bitch Juice was actually like one of the producer I work with Charlie on that, you know I he came from one of those sessions I was telling about you're writing for other people and you make, so we did that record and it's just funny that you asked that because I did not have a check. I was still fully doing everything on my own um and I I just was speaking it into my life like I I'm. I want to speak success and I want whoever's listening to that and singing it and playing that before they go out and playing out before they start their day or during their day when they're singing those words, is you're speaking it into your life?
Speaker 2:I like that yeah you're, you know, so I need that every morning girl it's like a bit. It's like your visual vision board, but in audio form. I love that.
Speaker 1:No, I think it's important because music, like you said, you're chancing it. That's why certain concerts I can't rock with certain energies. Musically I refuse to be with a bunch of people yelling all my friends are dead. I'm just not.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, let's talk about Crazy Love, the that like I'm just not.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, yeah, but um, all right, let's talk about crazy. Love the cover art for this. By the way, thanks, super fly. Did you do the direction of that too? Yeah, and the cover art, wow, and for rich bitch juice. That that was um. That was also edited. I edited that cover art as well and crazy was a as a co-collaboration with my um, with my. I told you about title nine. She's my partner, my business partner and creative partner.
Speaker 2:We go back and forth on the direction for stuff like that, yeah y'all did that.
Speaker 1:Love, love, love. Okay, talk to me about that record. Who did it? Crazy is awesome, shit crazy is awesome shit okay, let's be honest it's.
Speaker 2:It's fun, it's sexy, it's flirtatious, but it's like on some attitude.
Speaker 1:Like is this the real Amanda? Like are you giving me the nice girl?
Speaker 2:but this is the real you Everything you get is the real me, but I have different sights.
Speaker 1:What's your?
Speaker 2:sign I'm a Pisces, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, okay, that makes sense. Artsy, what Pisces is so fucking artsy we?
Speaker 2:can't help it. But you at Pisces, be so fucking artsy. We can't help it. But yeah, we have our moments when we're on our shit, so Crazy is one of those. I love Crazy because it's again, it's just the audacity of it, those lyrics, those you know yeah exactly, and for me it's.
Speaker 2:It's important for me that I know that I'm I'm confident and comfortable expressing all those sides of me, because they all exist, you know, and in different contexts maybe. But crazy is just another one of those sides. And I think that, as women, we are so trained to define ourselves in one way or the other, or this or that, or and I, just after my experience and previously, you know, coming out of a group and all of that I just don't want to cut off certain parts of myself, for another to exist, and I think it's important for us to embrace the idea that all can exist at once and come out at different times and that's fine, like you can be independent and confident in one moment and strong and boss and you that rich bitch, and then you can be completely vulnerable and heartbroken and and that's the truth and you can express that and that's OK that they can exist in the same world.
Speaker 2:You know, you can have insights and intuition and knowledge and you can be spiritual, but you can be sexy and you can be sensual. And you can be the shit you know. All of those things are what make us who we are, and to deny one of them for the sake of another is not fair.
Speaker 1:it's silly actually, yeah, yeah, everything that you're saying is things that I'm learning as I grow too, so I'm like, no, that's very real we in this together.
Speaker 2:We really are. We're in this together and like the more we can, I think, talk about these things and share them between us without feeling the more we can, I think, talk about these things and share them between us without feeling judged. Yeah, you know, it's beautiful, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1:I think so too, and honestly, even just from like talking to other artists and influencers, like we're all like wait, so is this normal? Because I don't want to do this anymore. You know, we kind of just outgrow things, but I have to ask this before we play this game have you met Rihanna yet?
Speaker 2:yes, yeah, so the queen man okay, fire. I met Rihanna when I was in the band, actually nice yeah, we opened for her in Barbados. Um, and I just I'm in awe of her and her career and just she's so inspiring just out of what she's done. I, I just, oh my gosh, just she's also a national hero in barbara, so she means a lot to my, to my country and to me and um the world.
Speaker 1:In my opinion, yeah no, we love rihanna yeah like that's our girl. Yeah, exactly exactly that's fire. I love that. I always I feel like, um, like when I talk to people from toronto, it's always like drake, drake, drake, drake, drake. So is it the same like when you go to barbados? Do you hear a lot of rihanna?
Speaker 2:yes, yeah, it is yes, and it better stayed our way that's awesome all right I love that.
Speaker 1:okay, let's get into this game. It's called questions that need answers. Okay, you just fill in the blank.
Speaker 2:Questions that okay.
Speaker 1:The older I get, the less I blank.
Speaker 2:Oh, the less you blank. Okay, I thought you said the less you blank, sorry. Sorry, the older I get, the less I care how I'm perceived.
Speaker 1:I like that, Just because you're more comfortable in your skin right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it matters more to me what I think about or feel about me.
Speaker 1:I can't believe I actually blinked when I was younger.
Speaker 2:I can't believe. I actually I can't believe. I actually doubted myself when I was younger.
Speaker 1:I like that. Talk about it. I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about blank.
Speaker 2:I'm a little embarrassed about the fact that I know so little about the geography of the United States, because the way California is so big, yeah, and I just thought like Milo, I'm sorry, but the way these states are massive, yeah, it's going to take me years, okay.
Speaker 1:It's not going to take you years, it is. It is Especially once you start touring You're going to be like, oh, I'm over here now no, no, no, you don't understand.
Speaker 2:My island is very tiny, okay oh even just new york city. Like yo, I love new york city and it's just. But there's boroughs and there's, I'm just like it's a lot, a lot yeah yeah, so the geography? Whew, let's not talk about it.
Speaker 1:That's funny. Actually I'm insecure about how little I know about American geography okay. Don't worry. Don't worry, it takes time. I forgot. You grew up on an island, so the radius Very different. Yes, very, very different.
Speaker 2:Okay, but it's fun though right, yeah, yeah, I love it, yeah, but it's just funny when I'm in LA and my mom is calling me oh my gosh, are you a kid? There was a disaster in California and I'm like that was like in San Francisco.
Speaker 1:I'm like that's not.
Speaker 2:it's not the same and it's just like learning the geography here is crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good one. Sometimes I look back at my life and blink.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I look back at my life and blink. Sometimes I look back at my life and give thanks.
Speaker 1:Love that.
Speaker 2:Um, I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked. Um, I mean wait what wait?
Speaker 1:who are you laughing?
Speaker 2:off screen, the red carpet, oh my gosh. So, um, my first time time at the Grammy's, nominated at the Grammy, my first time. I was super excited, of course, but, like you know, when it's just, you're in a trance, like you don't really really know what's going on. So we get there and I'm in this incredible gown that I have just never worn anything like it, like when it touched my body, I was in tears because I couldn't imagine I was wearing some of this.
Speaker 2:And I'm on there and I'm there with my with my manager and I just am like, so when do we get on the red carpet? Right? Because I like, oh, so, we're all we're on here okay, we're on here all right, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, I made a fool of myself. Um, luckily there weren't that many people to hear me ask that question. We hadn't really gone too far down, but I was on it already for a good long time.
Speaker 1:No, a good 10 minutes I was just so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I was just so overwhelmed, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just so overwhelmed. Okay, she's like are we there yet? Can you imagine the color red not registering to your eyes? Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1:That's funny, but how was the Grammys? How was it overall as an experience Can?
Speaker 2:I be really honest with you, it's such a blur, because I was so, um, I was so overwhelmed by the magnitude of the moment and like, also just like to be a part of something so incredible, a project so incredible, and to have been given that opportunity, um, I know that I felt very grateful and I felt excited and I know that I enjoyed it. Yeah, but it's a blur.
Speaker 1:No, I get it, I get it. Yeah, that's a moment, man. Yeah, you only get one first, you know. So, yeah, I love that. Yeah, uh, my personality trait is blank, my pers my one personality trait?
Speaker 2:I know girl. I don't know my one personality trait? I know girl, I don't know. I can't answer that question. My personality trait is complex and diverse.
Speaker 1:I like that. Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:Last one is you would never believe me if I told you blank oh Gosh, this is hard. You would never believe me. I have a good one, but I can't use that. You would never believe me. I have a good one, but I can't use that. You would never believe me if I told you I'm walking around with a sprained toe right now. Are you really yeah?
Speaker 2:But the heels had to happen. Does it hurt? That had to happen for the outfit. I will suffer for the outfit and I will suffer for my art. Wow, I'm walking around New York City in seven-inch heels, on a sprain tool.
Speaker 1:You brought some backup shoes right. Nah, you're a bigger woman than me all right. There is no way. Shout out to Instagram. Let everybody know where they can tap in and follow you on there, Hi everybody.
Speaker 2:Thank you for listening. Nay hi everybody, thank you for listening. Naila, thank you for having me. I'm Amanda Reefer. You can find me on Instagram at Amanda Reefer, all socials at Amanda Reefer, because that's my name. So, yeah, of course tap in guys.
Speaker 1:New music on the way very, very soon.
Speaker 2:Thank you right, very soon yeah, oh, soon, soon, oh, literally around the corner, literally, around the corner, literally around the corner.
Speaker 1:All right, talk soon. Peace.