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Allegedly when I was, like real young, I also like set my house on fire.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? Allegedly Did the house burn or not?
Speaker 1:We don't got a lot of like old pictures of me and shit. What do you mean by that? Apparently, I was like real young, like four years old, why?
Speaker 2:are you saying allegedly, when you know this shit happened, it's allegedly man, Yo what's happened when you was four.
Speaker 1:I may or may not have had a fireplace in the den.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I may or may not have been throwing all of our phone books into the fireplace.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:But I fuck with fire though. You know, when you young, looking at shit like that make you like.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm glad everybody's safe, Everybody good yeah. But Jesus Lord, have mercy. What's?
Speaker 1:going on, y'all. It's Kenny Mason. You might have heard my new album now.
Speaker 2:Not go out and get that. Nylah, what's up? We need to talk. What's going on, guys, and welcome to another episode. Oh, we need to talk. I go by Nylah Simone. Today I got a very special guest in the building. We got Kenny Mason here. How are you? I'm good how you I don't like how we twin in today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, black black, the safe way to go not for sure I'm always wearing black, though that's the fit heart, thank you, yeah, legacy, resilience, new brand just supporting black on.
Speaker 2:But you know, yeah, um but man new project out, nine fire project, I will say, will say I'm a new Kenny Mason fan.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2:Listening to the project. This project is my introduction to you. The rock record threw me off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then you reeled me back in towards the end of the project.
Speaker 1:So you listened without knowing like context or like without knowing nothing, and you just heard that Well, I watched one interview of you.
Speaker 2:Then, after I watched the interview, I felt like, okay, I got a good gauge, and then I listened to the project.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I knew Stick already.
Speaker 1:That's like rock adjacent. I'm screaming on that one for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, yeah, it is actually, it really is. But, this record. I feel like it's even another layer of that. But before I dive into the project, just how are you, how are you feeling right now?
Speaker 1:I'm good, I'm resting. I got a few days off from tour so I'm really just getting some rest in, some shopping in a little bit in New York and doing all the nine stuff. But I feel great. The tour been fine, so I'm in a good mood. I'm great.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. How many days apart from show to show has it been usually we? How many days apart?
Speaker 1:from show to show has it been. Usually we did probably like seven shows in like nine days. So we did, we only had up until this point, we had only like one day in between a show.
Speaker 2:How do?
Speaker 1:you train for something like this. I had to start drinking for real for a second and just exercise, really Rehearse. Rehearsing is kind of like exercising, like making sure I can do a whole like hour, almost hour and a half set. You know what I'm saying? All in one sitting, just practicing, I guess. Yeah, but then even down to like the travel, the lifestyle, the lack of sleep thereof, you just got to jump head in. It ain't really nothing.
Speaker 1:There ain't nobody around me that can prepare me for that shit. You just jump head in, I get that. We got the van, we routing it, we just got to do it.
Speaker 2:Any how should I say this? Any unforeseen things have popped off while traveling, or any things that you loved while touring uh I'm looking for the wild tour stories like what are they?
Speaker 1:this tour has been chill. Okay, all the wild shit happened. I ain't like all the wild shit happened when we was in europe last, like no, two years ago. But this, this tour being like straight and ain't nothing weird, happened like just what was the worst shit in europe? Bro, we got, we got in a fight in london with some, with some some tweaking niggas like some mandem some white boys. We got to hook up with some white boys in the hotel with some white boys.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't know they were white. That's another layer, okay my fault, yeah I feel like that makes it even worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, add context.
Speaker 2:Over what.
Speaker 1:Nah, they was just high you know out there they do the shit in the balloons. What's it called Whippets the whippets? They got like there's something with the oxygen in the balloons that get you high.
Speaker 2:Like the helium.
Speaker 1:I think so I don't really know how.
Speaker 2:People were getting high off of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And they got down, just came in the hotel. It was really on some racist shit, because the hotel people tried to kick me out and he's like nigga, I'm staying here. These folk came in here.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it was low-key fun.
Speaker 2:Did the police get caught?
Speaker 1:No, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's enough for me I'm like fighting in another country. That's dangerous Niggas, don't be making it back home, ending up in jail and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Nah, we had good eyes on this for real, not getting police calls.
Speaker 2:Good.
Speaker 1:Because that would've been, I wouldn't been telling this story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what? Or who knows, Maybe we would've got a 56 nights or some shit. I don't want that. That's a pleasure yeah no, you're right, I'm with you on that, but okay, that's funny. So this one is calm. Is it because You're in America? Is that why?
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't know. I think that was just Some random shit Like maybe, or maybe we do know how to move around better, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Fair enough. Okay, so for those who aren't familiar with you, before I dive into this project, give them, like the Kenny Mason Starter pack, like what are three records you should definitely know.
Speaker 1:Like when you come to the show. You probably should know that's kind of hard Because it be it be spread around.
Speaker 2:You have different Genres all within. Your umbrella yeah.
Speaker 1:You probably should know Hit. That's the first song that really popped me off and they always go crazy at the shows. I think the new song Jumping In is the new. We opened the show with that and they be going crazy. I think it's real easy to rap, easy to sing, so that's why they fuck with that shit. So I feel like you should know that and stick, stick just always. It's just debauchery.
Speaker 2:Definitely debauchery. So I do. I like that you kind of have different sounds, like we can't put you in a box Growing up. What was it that you were listening to?
Speaker 1:I would definitely listen to a lot of like alternative and like emo and shit. I would play like WWE. You heard of WWE Smackdown versus Raw Mm-hmm. I played games like that and the soundtrack I have like a bunch of Raw shit on it.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I would like look it up. You know what I'm saying. In the soundtrack I have like a bunch of rock shit on it, okay, and I would like look it up. You know, I said like actually go look at the song, listen to that shit, and I really as a kid I was kind of like a loner or like a rebellious so like if some if, if people wasn't doing some shit, it made me want to do it more, like when nobody in my neighborhood, like the the streets I played around in, nobody listened to rock music.
Speaker 1:So the fact that nobody did it made me like type shit. It was like mine for real yeah.
Speaker 2:But now you're kind of infusing the two rock and rap. What was your introduction to hip hop?
Speaker 1:My dad used to play Tupac and shit when I was real young. I actually used to hate when he played that shit because when I was a real young kid Tupac voice it used to scare me. I used to be scared when he put that shit on.
Speaker 2:It's so positive though.
Speaker 1:Hell no.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Hail Mary is not positive.
Speaker 2:I mean he got positive music for sure. He got His. What Hail Mary is not positive, oh, oh, oh. Oh, I mean he got positive music for sure.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I forgot, he got positive music, but my dad didn't play the positive shit.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right. He played that you don't want to fuck with me, with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit sound like a horror movie.
Speaker 2:You know what that saying? That was my introduction for real. So shout out to your pops for doing that and traumatizing yeah. What would you say is um, like your entry point, like what was the first project? You was like, oh nah, I gotta go cop this. Or like I gotta go burn this.
Speaker 1:Offline it was it was uh lil wayne. The dedication three mix tape damn man, I wish I. That's off the line of words. It was Lil.
Speaker 2:Wayne the Dedication 3 mixtape.
Speaker 1:Damn man I wish I grew up in Atlanta. During that era it was lit for real, and that's what made me start rapping. I really didn't have shit else to do because I was broke as fuck. I couldn't do nothing else but listen to music. I had this little CD player and that's back when people burnt CDs Yep.
Speaker 2:And I had a bunch of little we sound mad.
Speaker 1:All right, I swear they want to say that. You see, I look at the camera. Anyone say that. But I had all his and I had shit else to do. So, um, I would write all his raps down and learn them and then like kind of like I'm like 10 years, I'm like maybe 11 years old. I will, uh, just replace his name with my name and just act like I was fire but that was like the start of me, like writing raps.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, because I'll tweak this and change this and eventually it'll be my whole own first that's actually tough.
Speaker 2:I Look your villain origin story right there, inspired by Wayne. Yeah, that's cool. All right, let's get into this new project. Nine, why Nine?
Speaker 1:Me and my homeboys, like my group of friends growing up we called ourselves House Nine and like a lot of the songs and stories on this album was inspired by that time of like me coming up with them. So it's just like 9 shit. 9 is a cool number. I think it's real simple and clean, marketing-wise and like yeah, it's a look fire for real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. Now it says the Atlanta rapper jumps in with nine reflective tracks, and I definitely do think they're reflective. My favorite two are the ones on the end, but we can start with Jumpin' because it's moving right now.
Speaker 1:You going to go through the whole thing.
Speaker 2:I'm going to skip around, why you don't want to talk about it?
Speaker 1:No, I was just asking. I'm with you.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:What was the inspo behind Jumpin' In? I kind of I don't know. We was just in a sample bag me and Coop.
Speaker 2:Sample was great, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like kind of, we did some digging for like a couple days actually trying to find samples.
Speaker 2:to stress out my A&R later Wait, that should make their job easier. I feel like.
Speaker 1:Hell. Nah, it made both of our jobs harder. We actually had like a thing where we had a bunch of songs that we wanted to put out. None of them got cleared, but we was like these, the fire songs. So we literally was just like let's make a song that we can't get cleared. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:That was behind this one.
Speaker 1:And we fucked around and ended up getting it cleared.
Speaker 2:That's so silly.
Speaker 1:Thankfully, but yeah.
Speaker 2:It's so silly, thankfully, but yeah, it's so funny. I literally just tweeted yesterday. When I hear a familiar sample, it actually bores me, but this one it didn't work I hate shit.
Speaker 1:That my fault, but right, I hate shit that everybody knows. Yeah, you want to find shit that ain't nobody ever heard? This was good, at least, just like most people ain't heard. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was good, so found it Actually, got it cleared. You guys were surprised.
Speaker 1:It was the only one we got cleared.
Speaker 2:Oh, we probably had like, so is that never coming out?
Speaker 1:I mean I might have gotten it on SoundCloud or some shit, but I think you should. That was like the only one sample that we got cleared, and I was. It's my favorite one too.
Speaker 2:So that's tough. I love that. I feel like, yeah, people ain't doing samples Right, so I like how you guys treated that one.
Speaker 1:Um shout out, boy Coop man, he whipped that one up.
Speaker 2:Good job, cool. Uh, let's talk about easy dub featuring baby drill.
Speaker 1:Yeah, drill, yeah. Um, they think I made the song because I lost the madden game but that ain't really what happened.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying wait, wait, I need who do you lose?
Speaker 1:the madden game to. Oh, he ain't even in here.
Speaker 2:He cheated okay and then I'm gonna ask him when he comes back, but go ahead and then I just so happen to make that song after that.
Speaker 1:It ain't really got nothing to do. Oh, that's petty as fuck. I'm just letting you know the conspiracy theory. Yeah, that's so petty Because they're going to try to give you a conspiracy theory, but that ain't what happened.
Speaker 2:It just inspired, it right after all.
Speaker 1:coincidentally, Nah, I just so happened to make the song.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:They just so happened. No correlation, for real, yo, that's so petty.
Speaker 2:Well, you ended up making a hit, so actually shout out to him whether he won or lost. It worked out. And then you just threw Baby Drill on it. Or was he in the studio with you, we?
Speaker 1:made that song. And then Coop was working on Drill Project too, so he was just FaceTiming, bro, and he was like oh, I'm out here with Ken, and he handed me the phone, drilled just like shit, send me a song. Fire and we had just made that song and we just sent it to him. Good, we just happened to be working on projects at the same time.
Speaker 2:That's fire. Between that and the V's feature 4, my very, very tough too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really all Coop. Like Coop got down when he made that shit happen.
Speaker 2:Niggas got a good ear. Let's talk about Chosen, which I love. The message behind this record who pissed you off? What bag was you in that you felt like you had to let these niggas know.
Speaker 1:You feel like I'm pissed off on Chosen?
Speaker 2:Nah, I feel like you pissed off on the following one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:You was.
Speaker 1:I don't know about pissed off, I just be talking shit.
Speaker 2:You was just in your bag.
Speaker 1:I'm a shit talker. I'm real good at rap. I'm one of the best niggas at this shit, so I'm going to be talking my shit with it.
Speaker 2:I like it. You're supposed to, but Chosen.
Speaker 1:Chosen is really me. It kind of wrapped up the whole album because in a lot of moments of the album I'm talking to the city of Atlanta. You know what I'm saying, personifying the city as a person. So, into the city of Atlanta, you know, saying like personify the city is like a person. So it's me speaking like kind of having like a almost like a therapy session with the entity that's seeing how it's changed me and how it has changed. Just me seeing it's changed over time too, especially on the second verse, a chosen. So I mean I think I'm seeing the city as like this, like woman figure that's like kind of changed over time that I'm in love with, but like changed over time, you know, and it is changing and I'm changing too, and acknowledging that like you know what I'm saying and I feel like I was chosen by this city to like be this person type shit, it's just me going through all that.
Speaker 2:It's real artsy shit. Yeah, I like how you said. I think it's on Chosen where you're like all I need is the A, as long as I got that.
Speaker 1:That's on Luminous, but that definitely goes back to that. For sure, them two songs Kind of go together.
Speaker 2:That was a fire, fire ass bar, but definitely let's talk about Luminous, because you was talking your shit on that one. I was like this is a good way to end the project, though, honestly For sure, yeah, what bag was you in?
Speaker 1:Just on the bed in there, body tight shit. Just you know how I got to be. I feel like I got to be that way, make a name for myself and shit. You know what I'm saying. Like I'm competitive with it, you know.
Speaker 2:Atlanta has a lot of different styles right now, but my favorite is rappers who rap this rock element. Hold on the rock element that definitely.
Speaker 1:I feel like. I feel like anything like have whatever niggas want to get on, I'm there. When we lyrical rock, trout mumble how we want, I want.
Speaker 2:I feel like I can do all that better than anybody when you get in the booth, uh, or in the studio with your producer, how do y'all pick?
Speaker 1:like the vibe it really just be like natural it'd be the beat first. You know what I'm saying. Most of the time we build a beat from scratch and whatever the beat is saying, it's like whatever the beat for real. They're kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2:Or do you feel like, well, I don't know, but do you feel like you have to cater to different audiences with your music? Do you feel the pressure to do that or no? No, you feel like people kind of just take it.
Speaker 1:I don't feel no pressure. I feel like the folk, that folk with me, understand what they gonna get like. Even you like, as a newcomer, like seeing, okay, this shit might go rock on track six out of nowhere, like now you know you know, and it's like that's the kind of culture I created with my um, with my listeners, the pups.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying they expect that type of shit. What's the kenny mason show like, like? Is it gonna be like the two cool guys bobbing their head, or is it like?
Speaker 1:no, I'm gonna tell you exactly what it's like. So the crowd this is the light crowd, right, it's a square, it's a circle in the square.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:That's the mosh pit.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:That's the ragers, all the motherfuckers that's turnt up, they having their own party right here in the middle. Sometimes it's two, but on the outside in the corners.
Speaker 2:I'm like I got to be up top watching down. Nah, I'm going to tell you it's two, but on the outside, in the corners, I'm like I got to be up top watching down.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you it's where you go in the corners. Okay, Usually the front two corners. The back two corners be chill too, but the corners is where all the lyrical rap motherfuckers want to sit and rap in the words Okay, got it.
Speaker 2:That's where it's chill and safe.
Speaker 1:It's safe to chill In the middle is where them niggas get turned.
Speaker 2:All right, yeah, hell, I might fuck around and do it for one record, but I don't know you can't. But see it's friendly, I'm too little for that shit.
Speaker 1:Bro, I got good mosh pits. I got nice mosh pits. They ain't going to fuck. Nobody gets hurt ever.
Speaker 2:And then you can go. They might be sweating and shit niggas be having full blown workouts in that mosh pit they do.
Speaker 1:Nah, I'm telling you, the whole setup is great. It's on there for everybody, it's a space for everybody alright, I might have to pull up.
Speaker 2:Alright, we're gonna play a game called questions that need answers. All you have to do is fill in the blank.
Speaker 1:The older I get, the less I blink the older I get, the less I blink, the older I get the less I drink.
Speaker 2:We love that. Yes, that's good um.
Speaker 1:You would never believe me if I told you blank you would never believe me if I told you I'm allergic to ducks to ducks yeah, don ducks yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't nobody ever believe me when I tell them that.
Speaker 1:Well, how did you find that out when I was real little? My dad took me to the park, okay, and there was ducks there and I was feeding the ducks this allegedly by the way, not this. Allegedly, this is what he told me though he was like you can't ever be around ducks this allegedly by the way, not this, allegedly, this is what he told me, though he was like you can't ever be around ducks.
Speaker 1:Okay, he was feeding the ducks bread and shit, you know what I'm saying. And I broke out with the hives Like real bad. I had to go to the hospital.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:And he said I don't think that's allegedly Allegedly.
Speaker 2:That's nothing to play with.
Speaker 1:You got high. I ain't never tried it again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think you should.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe your dad, I believe him too.
Speaker 2:Have you tried eating duck?
Speaker 1:No. Or you just stayed away from it completely. I always felt like it was going to kill me or something.
Speaker 2:All right, fair enough. I can't believe I actually blinked when I was younger.
Speaker 1:He said I done, did some shit, shit I can tell, but that's smart, go ahead, this another allegedly oh my god, all right, allegedly when I was like real young I also like burnt set my house on fire.
Speaker 2:What, yeah, what do you mean? Allegedly did the house burn or not?
Speaker 1:we don't got a lot of like old pictures of me and shit, so I I was apparently, I was like really on like four years.
Speaker 2:Why are you saying allegedly, when you know this shit happened? Why are you saying allegedly Yo, what's happened when you was four?
Speaker 1:So I may or may not have had a fireplace In the den. Okay and I may or may not have been Throwing all our phone books into the fireplace. Okay, and I may or may not have been throwing all of our phone books into the fireplace.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:But I fuck with fire though. You know, when you're young, looking at shit like that make you like.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm glad everybody's safe, everybody good. Yeah, jesus Lord, have mercy. Okay, lord, nah you. You was a badass, kid.
Speaker 1:So I've been told.
Speaker 2:Did you outgrow this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to be setting houses on fire now.
Speaker 2:No, I hope not.
Speaker 1:She said are you still an arsonist?
Speaker 2:Are you? Because you know when kids are bad early. You know like Four by the time they turned, like 16, they done, did so much.
Speaker 1:Nah, I got my ad. He put a stop to it. My dad with my ad. He was like nah.
Speaker 2:Shout out to fathers you guys are so important. Let's see, I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about blank. Anything you want to learn more about?
Speaker 1:I don't know because I be thinking I know everything.
Speaker 2:What's your sign?
Speaker 1:Try again.
Speaker 2:Virgo. Oh, you said thinking I know everything that sound like some Virgo shit. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, I guess that's it. I guess that might be true too.
Speaker 2:You act like I can't Google this.
Speaker 1:I'm about to Google it. You didn't even try for real.
Speaker 2:I did try. I said Virgo, all right, let me see. No, you're not going to answer the question.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought you were Googling it.
Speaker 2:I am Googling it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you want me to answer it before you Google.
Speaker 2:That's all right. Oh, december 17th, that is a Capricorn.
Speaker 1:Mm-mm.
Speaker 2:A Sag, mm-mm. Oh, I like Sages, matt's a Sag.
Speaker 1:Okay, Matt.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Shroom Matt.
Speaker 2:Yo how you just gonna put my man business out there, my fault.
Speaker 1:He don't do that, y'all.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, I'm gonna edit my fault, Tony.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we edit it out.
Speaker 2:But okay, okay, damn. What was the question?
Speaker 1:What's my sign? No, it was.
Speaker 2:I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that I know so little about.
Speaker 1:Astrology.
Speaker 2:Oh, all right.
Speaker 1:I ain't even really embarrassed about that, though it's my fault.
Speaker 2:You should be.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:You should know more. No, I'm just joking, but I do love astrology, Saj and Leo's. I'm a Leo.
Speaker 1:We get along. Oh, you're a Leo, yeah, you're a Leo girl. Y'all dress fine.
Speaker 2:That was a nice cleanup. That was a really nice cleanup. You know what I'm going to take my compliment Alright. Who hurt you?
Speaker 1:Nah, who hurt what You're not doing, that You're not doing that. I'm embarrassed about not knowing more fashion shit.
Speaker 2:All right, Okay, fine. From time to time it's good to do blank.
Speaker 1:From time to time it's good to slap somebody Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know you should look into boxing, I might, I feel like you would into boxing, I might. I feel like you would like that.
Speaker 1:I feel like you think I'm an angry person.
Speaker 2:I don't think you're an angry person. You think I be burning houses down.
Speaker 1:I don't think.
Speaker 2:Allegedly, that's just what I heard. Allegedly, it's the fact that you're alleging to your own life, Like you don't know this shit, you can't snitch on yourself.
Speaker 1:Everything is alleged. Oh, okay, okay, my personality trait is blank. My personality trait is Wait like wait. Can you give me an example?
Speaker 2:If I had to pick a word, I would say vibrant for myself.
Speaker 1:Oh, my personality Like. So just describe my personality Mm-hmm, I'm chill. My personality is chill, for sure, I'm chill. My personality is chill, for sure.
Speaker 2:Chill yeah. All right, I get that A little mischievous, but chill, chill, I like it. All right, so you're on tour right now. New project out. What else can we expect for 2024?
Speaker 1:Maybe you can expect some more songs and more music.
Speaker 2:Deluxe. Maybe, Okay, I ain deluxe maybe. Okay, this is a good number. By the way, on the, I'm so happy, I'm sorry, on the project.
Speaker 1:A good number of records that's why I was trying to make it like small and concise, because if I could be dropping 30 songs, yeah you could get through it.
Speaker 2:I can actually listen to it again, pick the ones that I want to have and repeat like that.
Speaker 1:That was a great number, so if you do a deluxe, I think yeah, I'd rather like drop three nine song projects, doing a 27 song project we appreciate you.
Speaker 2:If nobody told you today, we appreciate you. Shout out your grandma, everybody know where they can follow you kenny mason on everything mason on everything. Just kenny mason man, make sure you guys tap in until next time. Peace.