WNTTLK (We Need To Talk)

From Diss Tracks to Dreamvillefest, Wrestlemania Recap + More

April 14, 2024 Nyla Symone
WNTTLK (We Need To Talk)
From Diss Tracks to Dreamvillefest, Wrestlemania Recap + More
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Hip-hop aficionados, brace yourselves for a sonic rollercoaster as Ken and I dissect the latest beats, bars, and behind-the-scenes drama that's shaking the foundations of the genre. Imagine a roundtable where the "big three" of rap—Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and J. Cole—clash, not just with their lyrics but with their legacies. We're picking apart that seven-minute diss track that's got everyone talking, laughing at the unexpected apologies it led to, and reveling in the sheer audacity of hip-hop's competitive spirit.

This episode isn't just about the clashes; it's a celebration of culture, from the Dreamville festival's gutsy response to critics to the unexpected crossovers at WrestleMania where music and wrestling fans unite. Ken's insights shine a light on how even amidst beefs and lyrical sparring, hip-hop creates moments of unity and shared milestones for communities. We share personal reflections on how these events transport us, creating live experiences that transcend the headphones and the streaming numbers.

To cap it all off, we're spinning through the latest albums that demand a deep listen, no skipping allowed. Future's hidden features beckon us to explore the full narrative of his album, while Atlanta's hip-hop Mount Rushmore sparks debate on who truly defines a city's sound. As Ken and I swap stories on how hip-hop has soundtracked our lives post-college, we invite you to consider your musical evolution and join the conversation. Let's keep the dialogue going—hit us up with your takes and tune in for a ride through the rhymes and reasons of hip-hop's heartbeat.

Talk Soon! ✌🏾

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Speaker 1:

With the HD shit, nah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, it's recording.

Speaker 1:

Great.

Speaker 2:

Uh, hello cool. Let's do this intro all over again. Sorry, um, the universe is conspiring against me today, but you know what it was bound to happen. My week has been going too good, I will say.

Speaker 1:

Blame the eclipse.

Speaker 2:

Blame the eclipse, yes, um, but okay. Today Iame the eclipse. Blame the eclipse, yes, but okay. Today I got a very special guest in the building I can't even say guest. I have my friend, Ken is what he goes by. He's not in media but he's pretty popping. But I don't know why he wants to do this whole low-profile thing. So I don't want to blow up his spot too much.

Speaker 1:

I mean, that's just me. I'm behind the scenes. I'm behind the scenes, I guess. Yeah, this right, here's a one and done because I this for you. For you, no, I don't other people could be like yo, bro, why you don't want to? Everybody knows how I follow our podcast. I was like, not hit me up.

Speaker 2:

I got to but can you have such good insight? Because you've been studying this game for a long time. You know the then, you know the now and you have a good like. You be making me feel like an old hater sometimes, because you still understand. You know different. I don't want to talk about the little crew you brought up earlier today where I wanted to just throw a tomato at you, but you be tapped in.

Speaker 1:

You had to tap in. You can't not like the new shit, like you can't be dedicated to not like it I'm not dedicated to not like a new shit.

Speaker 2:

I like some of the new shit, I just like I'm gonna play.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna play you, uh, some of their shit. You're gonna be like oh okay, really I'm gonna play you some of this.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna play two tracks right, you can play it for me. You know it's funny because All right, Fine. Someone literally just told me yesterday at least give it a try.

Speaker 1:

You don't got to like it, but you have to at least give it a try. It's five minutes. Okay, it's four minutes and 12 seconds All right, all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, since you want to start with numbers, let's talk about seven minute this um, because we got to talk about the biggest news story in hip-hop right now, which has definitely been drivel fest, and this apology that jayco did. Now, before we even get into the apology, though, how did you feel about the album and the drill seven minute diss, I mean?

Speaker 1:

the. The whole thing was fire to me, like it was. It was really good, it was surprise, it was a surprise drop. I'm like oh shit, right before dream ville, like it's really like I love we got ab soul verse on there. I love sensuous verse, like I love. Like every. Everything about it was was dope. And then you got to the last track, of course, and I was like this is cool, it's cool. It felt a little bit out of place, it did. I was like all right, because the way everything flowed and like sequences is a big thing for me.

Speaker 1:

So I was like everything flowed but you know that was the bonus joint yeah, that just felt like thrown in there and I was like okay, cool, like like all right, and right after that I'm like, all right, let me give some some, some time to, you know, breathe. And I listened to it in the morning and I was like I don't think this is enough. You can't, you can't jab at somebody who swung at you like full-on swung and I don't know how, how deep we're gonna dive no, we're going in they swung on you because you kind of antagonized them like.

Speaker 1:

I feel like that's the lost part in all of this. The big three talk was started by cole. What the big three? When did he start that first person shooter? He's the one who coined. No, he's the one who coined the big three. When did he start?

Speaker 2:

that first person shooter. He's the one who coined. No, he's the one who coined the big three.

Speaker 1:

The internet has been coining these guys, he acknowledged he acknowledged the big three like it's it's a difference if you're like an artist and people are, like you know, saying hey, this is the class and this is, you know, the biggest three rappers out right now. Now. When you acknowledge it and then you say rhyming with me is the biggest three rappers out right now Now. When you acknowledge it and then you say rhyming with me is the biggest mistake and you say we, the big three, but I feel like Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 2:

Huh, huh, huh, huh. Hey look, look, I can't believe you out here trying to say Cole is responsible for the big three. Now you know, the cream rises to the top and they are the big three base off accolades. I feel like he's not wrong for mentioning, obviously, what we've noticed is that Kobe on Twitter, a lot of the narratives end up in the music and I mean I think it's only natural. I don't think he should get. Don't, don't lead with. He started this shit. Don't do that.

Speaker 1:

It's hard because they have been living uh, it's been cold warish between all three of them yo nah.

Speaker 1:

Kid must be stopped, it's been cold warish and he's the one who went on wax and said the big three. And then you know, first person shooter was obviously a big thing when it dropped and when you just dissect those bars I've been on my ig just posting bars from, uh, from first person shooting, like just circling it, like I everybody step is, in a way I'm about to clean up my plate. You know so you're. You may not look at it as jabs, but the, the man from compton is, is somewhere mexico, looking at you parade around with drake for a few months and all these you know what?

Speaker 2:

sentimental uh speeches on stage yo bro, yo bro, no one's doing it like you. Exactly it's so dramatic.

Speaker 1:

So when I heard seven minute drill, I'm like yeah, this is, this is cool. But kendrick swung. Like he said's there is no big three. Like I look in the mirror and see only me. Like there's nobody else on. Like on this plateau is just me. So I was like yo, you got to come back hard on it and I thought like okay, we will get like a summer jam.

Speaker 2:

I thought we were going to get a summer jam moment too. I feel like the initial disappointment was really because of the expectations that I had set because of, you know, the record drop in. You know, like I felt like we were going to war, essentially. But something you said, something you said about, was it Kendrick? Was it Kendrick? Oh, oh yeah, kendrick being antagonized is that?

Speaker 2:

Um, I can completely see that POV and also I feel like like I really think Cole got up there and apologized because he's friends with both of them genuinely, and you know how like it could be pressure when your friends don't like each other. So I feel like I feel like he did it because of the hype, started to feel the pressure once he saw the response that he was getting from the project, I think the pressure like doubled down and he's like you know what, I don't even want to be a part of this because he really had no business being a part of it anyway. Like to me when first person shooter dropped and even when I promoted the song on the breakfast club, I'm like yo, this video was fire, like I'm here for it, but why would they not have kendrick on it if we talking about the big three, like it would have been dope. Uh, maybe we'll get like a remix. I had no idea. Well, you, you saw, twitter was saying like they asked kendrick and then he said no oh, I don.

Speaker 1:

I don't even think they would step to Kendrick and ask. That would have to be a cold request.

Speaker 2:

That would have to be a cold request. I don't think.

Speaker 1:

Drake steps to Cole and asks him to be on a first-person shooter.

Speaker 2:

But why are you saying in this climate, they got fucking problems?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but you got to remember from fucking problems. It's been smoke since then it's been Kendrick on bt and like drake throwing out little bars on. Uh, what's that? Game track 100 so they've again. It's been cold warish for 10 years between those two wait, I didn't know. 100 was about kendrick that, that that you can. Hey, you can say I'm looking too deep into it, but I feel like that was a subtle shot at Kendrick.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it would make sense it was in Compton he said I will have all of your fans if I stayed on some concert shit Like who else.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I'm just late to the party that was.

Speaker 1:

you know, that's the To Pimp a Butterfly era.

Speaker 2:

Fuck, oh my God, I'm late to the party. I Fuck, oh my god, I'm late to the party. I just never. I didn't know that, dang.

Speaker 1:

Somebody from Rap Genius could get me on that, but I always thought they were sending jabs back and forth with each other.

Speaker 2:

See, and that's why I feel I don't know, this is messy, because this is personal. We're judging the music, but we know it's personal.

Speaker 1:

You were there. Take me Because there is like. I saw it on Twitter and I was playing catch-up. So I was playing catch-up because of WrestleMania.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I was playing catch-up like after WrestleMania and I'm like three hours behind. So I'm looking through the feed, I'm scrolling, I'm like, oh God, Cole, and I pressed the video and I just heard the crowd deflate not deflate as somebody who was there, like what was the energy like?

Speaker 2:

yo, everybody was shocked. I'm not gonna lie. We, like I said, we thought, because all day throughout the festival we're shooting content. We're talking about the disc record, like everybody's either in love with it or they're not fans of it, or whatever the case may be. So when we get there we're thinking we're gonna get a moment, whether it's like a summer jam thing, or maybe even it's him addressing something about it. But even in the first five minutes, like I knew something was off, because he got up there and was like I don't know how many more of these I have left in me. I don't know how many more festivals and I'm like festivals like your beats don't got nothing to do with the festival. You keep this festival going.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I expected? I expected him to do all that and then at the end go man, fuck it, drop that shit. Like that's what I thought was going to happen.

Speaker 2:

That would have been great he was waiting for the Like, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like halfway through the video and I'm like, oh, he's about to start some shit up and I was waiting to get there and we just never got there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now we walked out, but we was already walking out because we was on our feet all day hosting the live stream. We started watching it from our phones as we're leaving it and we're like damn, damn. But then the next day day or at least for me, after I slept on it I'm like ah, it makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and this? This is where the conga gets messy why, this is where it really gets messy.

Speaker 1:

As a human, and as I I read this post about how we, you know, they try to play it like or spin it as hey, us, us, as black people, we, you know, we have to. We can't talk about mental, physical and social health and then want these two you know, prominent black brothers to go head to head. I'm like I get that perspective. But also, we're in a rap like hip hop. Rap is a sport, you know. We're in a rap like hip-hop. Rap is a sport, you know and this is where I get back to where cole kind of started when, when you say you feel like muhammad ali and you're you're, that means you're welcoming every challenger like every, it doesn't matter, it's, it's.

Speaker 1:

At that point, it's abg, anybody gets it. Whether you're drake, whether you're, whether you're kendrick, whether you're, you're unknown, whatever. At that point, these braggadocio bars, like you're, whether you're kendrick, whether you're, you're unknown, whatever, at that point, these braggadocio bars, like you're hyping yourself up, you're on these features, talking yo, nobody wants to rhyme with me, nobody wants to get on the track with me and I understand I may take a toll on you as a human, but you you kind of welcome this. You were saying like, yeah, anybody who wants it is free to get smoke um, my rebuttal to that is that.

Speaker 2:

well, you know what? There is no rebuttal to that, because I agree he jumped out the window. He jumped out the window. If he never would have jumped out the window and just not even said anything.

Speaker 1:

And this is one of the most safest rap beefs ever Like this right here. We know nobody Like. This was the only rap beef we can say all right, no, it's not even beef, you know but it's just the only thing it's sparring.

Speaker 2:

We were like, all right, nobody's gonna get hurt behind this, like but I mean we, we're seeing athletes now um take breaks and say they need mental health breaks. We're in a different era. Like we got social media, we have a lot of added layers to our daily life, to our daily, daily senses. That to me, I think it makes sense. It did but now those brag bars are not going to sound the same.

Speaker 2:

Man. People are saying that, but it doesn't feel like that to me Only because, like there's mad rappers with ghostwriters. Just because Cole felt like that or feels like this in this moment don't mean he might not change his mind later. Cole gotta shoot at somebody somebody's gonna shoot at Cole.

Speaker 1:

Somebody's it already started. Oh my god, somebody is gonna drop the bar about niggas apologizing in front of a set on some J Cole shit.

Speaker 2:

Like somebody's gonna drop that bar and then none of us can say anything yeah, people are doing that, but and you know what fine, I feel like it's fair, they can do it. But just don't don't forget he's still a titan definitely, definitely a titan he's still a titan, like he's still the, or the big four, the. We gotta say big four now.

Speaker 1:

Oh, because.

Speaker 2:

Future is 100% definitely added into the conversation. Now. It's no longer a big three the fact that this nigga added his own. We just got to do.

Speaker 1:

Mount Rushmore. We got to do the current Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 2:

That's the count, that is it.

Speaker 1:

Ah man, but I was disappointed, though. I was kind of disappointed. I'm like the. I was kind of disappointed. I'm like apologies, cool, and I get everyone. We're indifferent. I saw a post it was like 50 might be the first person to sit down, two people and have them beef.

Speaker 2:

That's stupid.

Speaker 1:

I was like yo do we kind of need it Again. All the Titans are outside, everybody's outside, kendrick's outside. We don't know when he's dropping but we hope he's outside. We're not sure oh, kendrick, kendrick, if, if we, if we think um again. There's been murmurs out that the boy is gonna drop something.

Speaker 2:

He's right off tour if the boy drops something.

Speaker 1:

I think kendrick and the team over that have something ready to go well, I'm here for it.

Speaker 2:

I'm here for it. If Cole didn't want to do it in that moment, I really give him grace because those are his friends. I personally have been in situations with people who don't like each other, but I'm like the middle man. I would never even try. You know, I would never team up with this one just to to make sure I don't make my other friend feel away, if that makes sense. So I feel like you know in a sense. I don't know if he knowingly took a side.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean but has to be aware of the optics though yeah, because the optics, the optics ain't good crazy yeah.

Speaker 2:

So therefore I get it, and if anything, that's what I would be apologizing for. Like playing the 50. Playing the 50 and then rapping about it too, it's like damn Like what. This is crazy, but I don't know. Then you know another thing that I thought about. I'm like is any of this even real?

Speaker 1:

What if this is all fake? You think they fabricated. You think?

Speaker 2:

The only thing that seems real like is bitch on Like. That seems like all right, that's real life, everything else. Kendrick Drake, cole, they this might be planned.

Speaker 1:

I don't think Kendrick sits down with. Kendrick doesn't need the media hype. I think I don't think Kendrick sits down with. Kendrick doesn't need the media hype he doesn't. Kendrick loves chaos. He loves chaos and I feel like he thrives in it. So this is where, again, we spin back to the optics word. Kendrick is sitting wherever he is and he's watching these two dance across the stage Big three, big three. And he's the odd man out right, so probably feels like they're placing him at third. And let's, let's be real.

Speaker 1:

People have drake and and cold. They don't put names to it, but they sub all the time. So cold not so much, but cold is like it's more of a blanket. It's more of a blanket statement versus drake. He actually like subs. So imagine kendra just sitting back and not saying, not saying shit, and he's watching. He's watching the landscape. And now you got again first person shooters coming out and you can dissect all the bar, you can take any line from there and they're popping major shit on first person shooters yeah, I'm not major shit and he's like I'm gonna sting you so are we ever?

Speaker 2:

we're never gonna get a big three record I don't, I don't think we get there.

Speaker 1:

It it's. It's too smoky in the neighborhood because maybe no time soon.

Speaker 2:

Naz and jay-z did two records together. Yes, yes, but maybe 20 years from now.

Speaker 1:

it was, it was just naz and hove at that point. This we have clicks, we have crews, we have producers, we have like you got. This is a little early, but you got the weekend setting shots, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, I think the battle of the industry versus Drake that's a thing, and I'm really excited to see how he shows up for it. But as far as the big three, that's always going to be a thing too, and it's own you, let the fans acknowledge it, I mean the big four.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can't acknowledge it as the artist. Well, the moment you acknowledge it as the artist, now it's like again it's a cold war.

Speaker 2:

Well, the bar aged bad, because now it's the Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1:

It's a cold war. Well, the bar aged bad, because now it's a Fantastic.

Speaker 2:

Four. It's a Fantastic Four. But you said you were disappointed when you heard the speech. Did you see what Styles P said online? He said he's confused. Oh, he said he just confused the shit out of my frequencies. The fact that he said frequencies is hilarious because I get it. I totally get it. Yeah, because again, Styles has the whole juice shop. The fact that he said frequencies is hilarious because I get it, I totally get it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because again, like stop we talk. Like styles has the whole juice shop. Yeah, you know he's on the the you know um health wave and stars is like yes, like this is you know we should, we shouldn't be at each other's next. But then styles the mc, like it is like ooh, nigga, what Like did you just apologize for sending a shot back?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it was, and I understand where Cole was coming from. He's like yo, like rap beefs tend to get personal and stuff like that and yes, okay, cool, but it's not like you talked about his family. It was not super ugly, it was not ether.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think it was ether enough for him to apologize All you did was downplay his projects and I'm like that's cool.

Speaker 1:

Nas said Beans is better than Jay-Z. That's cool.

Speaker 2:

And that's why I'm saying it's pressure. I feel like he heard other records where niggas is getting personal.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

And he said I don't want no parts. I'm going to take a step. I'm going to head out Y'all got this.

Speaker 1:

And he literally said that Again, we know how music works. So that verse he just dropped on the Metro. It's old, it's old.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But it's horrible timing, horrible timing. Yeah, I don't know what's the word worst and horrible but that's what it is, because literally what you just said about bowing out is what was said there, I know. So now, if you put the timeline of things, he probably said that first, and then first person shooter came out and he's talking all that hot shit, and then 7 minute drill and he's talking all that hot shit, and then dreamville fest but that's what I've said.

Speaker 2:

How are you on? How are you on? How are you on? Excuse me, how are you on Futures Project? Nah, I don't know if this is real anymore. Either I don't want it to be real because I just feel like there's madness, or this is just damn good marketing. That has me up in arms.

Speaker 1:

I don't believe it's the latter. I legit believe it's the latter. I I legit believe it's. Cole feels this way and everybody else feels the way they do and now he's about to get a number one yeah, because now we're all interested this is yeah this is literally in the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1:

We were talking about rap not being the number one genre. Huh, silly, like it was a silly conversation, you know, or it was early this year or last year. We're like, oh my god, it's been six months since a rap track went number one is the longest job in history. And now we're tapped in to it's spreading apart to where everybody's tuning in. Even though we know metro and future are great, we're tuning in because we're like all right, who's gonna be on this? Oh yeah, who's gonna send a shot? Or what is future gonna say what, what, uh, what clip is metro gonna put in? Is drake dropping tonight? Is kendrick gonna drop something? You know? So every it has everybody, literally like, tuned in, tapped in. Everybody's doing 150 a week, no matter like, no matter who drops minimum 150 a week, because we're all tuned in and we all, we're all engaged in it yeah, but that's why it feels like good marketing.

Speaker 2:

But I don't know. Either way, I'm happy it's here, but either way I'm happy it's here. But it's funny to see some of the the team respond to like the people on Dreamville respond to how people are trying to shit on them. Boz said I've been told y'all niggas be the only family we got, but niggas always want to let the kids from across the street swim in our pool until they take a shit in it. And then Boz tweeted the pool is closed. No more sessions. I mean uh-uh, yo Nah, kendrick got quote to boze, the most quote to boze of the year. Fuck the big three, nigga, it's just big me.

Speaker 1:

And then with Dreamville, with Dreamville fans, you got Schoolboy Q doing that dance across the stage. Party made you know, oh, these niggas really like that. My apologies.

Speaker 2:

Man my apologies. That was. This is. This is too much. This is too much, but um, obviously. Well, I don't know if it's obvious, but did you hear Simba releasing his record about how Cole let?

Speaker 1:

us down. I told you, cole, let he let the door open. Now he's. The door was open because somebody much respect to Simba, simba can spit, he's a rapper, you know. But this opens the door for a lot of people to to poke at the crown. You know, when you say, hey, I'm wearing the crown, I accept all challengers. Nobody wants this smoke and you have a now it's a chink in the armor because people are looking at it like, oh so you won't go against such and such. You better not respond. Like you know, you won't go against somebody who's on the same like tier as you.

Speaker 2:

You better not respond.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, you won't go against somebody who's on the same like tier as you. You better not respond to somebody who's, you know, random. I don't want to throw a name out there, but this is how. This is how it's looking. It's like oh, are we competitive? Are we not competitive? Are we gonna have the competitive bars and then not follow through? What are we doing here? So and this is this is what everybody wanted everybody was saying hip hop is becoming too buddy. Buddy.

Speaker 2:

That's what it was but you know who's buddy buddy? Well, I don't know Simba personally to know if he's buddy buddy with, like the new class, but the whole new class, they're all friends too and it's it's cool to be friends. It's alright to be friends but why don't you punch that way? Don't be punching up right now. Why are you punching up right now?

Speaker 1:

Because when you see the greats, when you see the greats step in, it's like, again, it's sport. When you step into the lines, I can't take it easier on you because we have a great relationship outside of this. No, this is how people feed their families, this is how people put food on the table and this is people's livelihoods and and this is what brings them immense joy Like it is sport. So we got to, we got to uphold that hip hop as a culture was made out of competitiveness. You know so when at djs, b-boys, you know like everything about our culture is communal but we also have some competitiveness. Like you mean to tell me to like, as, as you're a dj, you know like you'll probably peek into somebody else's dj set and be like, oh, I'm going up after them. Okay, I got you. Yeah, that's my mans, but I'm gonna show the yo, I can make you guys sway more than the previous person. That is just what it is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So now all these people are noticed, all these rappers are going to notice that, hey, he didn't really get off the way he said he was going to get off. He's been telling me for five years on his feature run he's getting off on anybody, and now he's not. Oh yeah, like to me I mean, I know, hd uh been dope. Dropped. One too, shout out hd been dope.

Speaker 2:

I was like, and then to the. To me personally, my heart was hurting. I'm not gonna lie it, I get it, but I feel, like how I say this I guess rap is different, but it's for like, it's just not your class, I don't know. It doesn't just feel like a conversation that should be had, and I'm trying to think back to, like have we ever had a moment like this, um, in hip-hop history? But I think about, like, when 50 came on the scene, right, but 50. 50 had how to rob, yes, right, but but 50 was 50. 50 story was known. You know what I'm saying? Like the impact was a little heavier for you to be taking shot, and that's why I said it's punching up, because but the thing with 50 is 50 was known locally, he wasn't known nationally.

Speaker 1:

So when 50 did how to rob, we didn't have twitter back then. But I could imagine some motherfucking west coast, some motherfucking down south was like who?

Speaker 2:

who is this?

Speaker 1:

Who is like dude, you're named after half of a dollar. Like who do you think you are? Like you're, you're, you're shooting that you're punching up and then like what?

Speaker 2:

Well, I never even thought about the half of a dollar thing. I'd never put two and two together, so you probably had a like what, who is this? And then 50 went on a meteoric rise within the next three years. Yeah, now he did so. Is that? Is that your predictions? Is simba?

Speaker 1:

being 50 right now. Nobody can ever be 50 because 50 is a one-on-one, not 50 again. And this is the crazy part 50 50 is once he's on your neck, he's oh, even if you guys are friends, he's always gonna give that jab. Yeah, he's always. Once he's on your neck, even if you guys are friends, he's always going to give that jab?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1:

He's always going to give that jab. This is what we love 50 for. Yeah 50 has been at this since 03.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 50 said it was good too. 50 said that Dreamville was really good. He was doing the bounce with the hands, the little hands I like that All right.

Speaker 1:

so what were some of your favorite performances from?

Speaker 2:

Dreamville Because I was working. I couldn't really like I had to see it from the screen, but I definitely was like, hey, I got to go, I need to see 50, sexy Red Turnt. And who was it? Because I was early I got to see Domani, cheshire Core and to see domani chase your core and um, there's somebody else.

Speaker 1:

Oh, touchdown tizo I love touchdown yeah I love him oh, I'm sorry, yes no, it's not, you know. We know what you meant.

Speaker 2:

Yes, tizo touchdown. He, he was good and he's cool, he's cool. So dreamville fest was, I mean, beside, up until the moment where everybody was shocked and it felt like the world stopped. I think it was a really good festival. Um, and I was a little nervous about the lineup too. Just because of the lineup switch, chris brown, like, came out and I think they skewed a bit younger this year, but, um, it was good.

Speaker 1:

The kids buy festival tickets. The kids buy festival tickets. The kids buy festival tickets.

Speaker 2:

I mean yeah, no, no, no, because we were just talking about lovers and friends.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, like we're the people with the money. Yeah for surely. But to fly, Okay, lovers and friends, vegas, vegas, vegas.

Speaker 2:

The kids buy Rolling Loud tickets. The kids buy Rolling Loud tickets. College students, slash industry professionals by Dreamville and Lovers and friends, people who love music. I ain't gonna put Eight on that.

Speaker 1:

It's a play on nostalgia too.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it is.

Speaker 1:

Like we just looking Through that line and be like, oh shit, like Nelly Ashanti, akon, gwen Stefani yeah, which I feel I was talking about earlier I feel bad because I don't care who's performing on any other stage I'm I'm running to see gwen stefani. Gwen is back outside gwen is back outside. I did not know you were such a gwen stefani fan what I I grew, I grew up on like, no doubt like pharrell, oh, yeah, that whole era right there.

Speaker 1:

So and she has, she like I'm gonna sing you some songs afterwards, but like she has like a great two album run, I don't think gets the proper credit when stefani, when stefani has a great two album run man, I'm definitely not hip to that at all. She's one of my favorite appropriators I only know the singles. I don't know like a project nah, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say your project're going to be like. Nah, this is fire. I didn't know Gwen's bag was this deep.

Speaker 2:

But it's because of Pharrell.

Speaker 1:

I want to say it's because of Pharrell, but I got into Gwen around that time, so it was like, okay, this is my intro and you got to double back and find all the things, and it was like no doubt. And I finding all her things and it was like no doubt. And I'm like oh shit, like this is amazing the fact that she can like yeah, I joked about her being my favorite appropriator, but like she was just like literally just hopping on different beats lord, have mercy.

Speaker 2:

Not my favorite appropriator. Well, speaking of appropriating hip-hop, has been appropriating uh wrestlemania for the past few years. Shout out to wale who I feel like is leading the forefront in that, but I know you went out there right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was it. It was exciting. It was exciting and it was fun because I feel like now more than ever, like the Internet makes the world smaller.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you have all these things you think are niche, but it's like like nah, like a lot of people enjoy it just as much as you do, and the fact that you're bringing together hip-hop, rest like wrestling and all the cool shit that people grew up on and have the you mentioned have the money to enjoy now yeah it was super dope, like shout out to wale and kazim, like it was like such a black space, like I looked up and you see freeway and beans performing what we do and they let the whole verse rock so that was.

Speaker 1:

That was like ah, you know, like that was that, that was dope, they performed, rock the mic, so it was like that's tough it was like yo, like I, like all the things that I love, people who have similar interests all coming together in philly, a black ass city yeah, it was amazing dang man, you do make me want to go.

Speaker 1:

It looked like you really enjoyed yourself yo I told my like I hit the group chat. I was like yo, I'm dragging somebody with me next year. You went by yourself. I went. I met people there and that's why the internet makes the world smaller, like those people that I've interacted with on twitter a million and one times and I'm finally meeting you in person, and it was just like you know, we're just nerding out talking shit like nah, this person's going to win.

Speaker 1:

No, this person's going to win and it's like it was a real great experience, like I implore everybody to. Like you know, travel, go out shout out to WrestleMania.

Speaker 1:

I think I want to watch wrestling, but you can still like keep up right, yeah, you can still keep up and even if you don't like, literally, I was um talking to my homegirl and she's like yo, who's that person you posted? She's like super fit. And I'm like yo, that's so crazy because, uh, that's jay cargill and jay cargill, and like my homegirls talk to me, she's aka just like you and she's like what? Like you know? So it's little things like that where somebody may say, oh, wow, like this is my first time seeing all. Like this was the first time at WrestleMania we had all black woman factions, so you had Jay.

Speaker 1:

Cargill, bianca, belair and Naomi, so it was three black women like in a WrestleMania match. And then you also had like the NXT, which was like the first time two black men headlined a WrestleMania event in like 20 years, since the Rock of Booker T. So it's like a representation and visibility thing where, even if you're not into it, you'll see it, you'll be like, oh, I relate to this person because such and such or this person is a symbol for whatever you know like.

Speaker 1:

I ran into the wrestling club from Brooklyn out there, which is like super dope. I'm like yo, like yo, like, yeah, little homies is out here, and I'm like yo. I never knew this was a thing the wrestling club in Brooklyn. So shout out to them, for sure. Shout out to Cody Rose, because he paid for them to come out there oh, that's so nice question and everything, so that was super dope wait, that is so awesome.

Speaker 2:

I love that. And you're right, sometimes the representation help you to understand. So dang, that's fire. I gotta get into that. Well, it looked like um, wale and meek were getting into a lot after an exchange of tweets on twitter after, uh, wrestlemania and philly. Um, honestly, when I saw the headlines, I was just like why?

Speaker 1:

peace and blessings like that. That right, there is something where you need to sit down because it was spilling off into like street shit yes, you just had like street niggas chiming in where it's like that is something where people got to sit down and you know separate both, but this is something that's been you know pretty I know, but why, why are we still doing this? Because their brands are forever linked, even though, like, like, neither of them are like mmg anymore.

Speaker 2:

Like, their brands are forever linked I don't, I don't want that to be the case.

Speaker 1:

We don't want it, like it will forever, like those two will forever be linked I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2:

When I think about wale, I don't think about meek mill, you don't? He's like he's one of the last. Why would I think about meek mill you?

Speaker 1:

don't. But when people like even though Meek has his own thing, wale has his own thing, right, because of MMG and because, like I don't want to say like polar opposites.

Speaker 2:

They were, you know, they were.

Speaker 1:

The fit was like uh, so anything that happens, you know they're going oh, wale was mmg, beak was mmg so like that's the unfortunate part of it. And yes, they're separate artists, but they're it's like they haven't. You know, picking the wrong baby father, picking the wrong baby mother. You guys will forever be linked, you know we may go out and do great things, but that's a great that's a great analogy, but we are linked by this one thing man, the baby is MMG.

Speaker 2:

Jeez, honestly I did not want Wale signing to MMG. I don't know and I always tell Money this DJ, money is his DJ and just longtime friend. But I always tell him I hate that he signed to MMG because I feel like out of that class of rappers. When Wally was coming out, he's not even in the conversation of Of the four yeah but he's in my four, he's really in my two.

Speaker 2:

I really love Wally and pin wise. He was my favorite and, in comparison to all the guys that were taking off in blog era, I just love the fact that he went the poetic route, like like you can spit, but also you, you, you do it for the ladies. Like you give us poetry. None of them niggas was doing that. Some of these niggas can sing, rap, some of these niggas can just rap and then try to sing and we don't really like that and that. You know what I mean. Like everybody had their niche, but I feel like his was one of his own, like he, he was the— For surely, for surely.

Speaker 1:

I just like just seeing him. I like the way Wale responded, because he had a great weekend. He did good. He had a great weekend.

Speaker 2:

It was coming off— Taking pictures with Ruben. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Oh, like that was like the motion of a row at WrestleMania. It was like like Drewski Wale 2 Chainz. It was Michael Rubin it was like that row was lit, but you know, coming off a great weekend. I like the way he responded. I like the way he responded dude, you're coming off a great week. You're at a high right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let it be yeah, thank god, he was. Definitely we were talking about antagonizing. He was being antagonizing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but you got to let it go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, touche. Okay, well, outside of the meek and wild, do you think this is going to continue or you think this is?

Speaker 1:

No, it has to continue.

Speaker 1:

It has to continue it has to continue, because if them being on the same label and I remember like with the first time it happened, they're being a sit down and now they're not on the same label and there's like really no median there, there's no reason for it. It'll always be smoke. It'll always be smoke, like they'll probably play it peaceful, but it'll always be, because that that's what meek was saying in the tweets like yo, you always secretly hated on me, and then it's like if you feel that way about somebody, it is a go away I feel like all these guys feel like that about each other, about each other, probably, honestly, probably probably, but the fact that you wrote it, um kind of meet needs a publicist as well.

Speaker 2:

Uh, kind of he's been. I mean he just needs to stay off twitter completely.

Speaker 1:

It always comes from his twitter it always comes from the twitter, like geez, just get off of it.

Speaker 2:

but outside of um that beef there's gloria and jt, young miami and jt, saucy santana and jt, and then quavo and Chris Brown, who have all been I saw Quavo hopping in the booth less than 24 hours, less than 12 hours.

Speaker 1:

Hopped in the booth and responded Gave us some bars. I haven't made it through that entire Chris Brown project yet. Dude, you gave me 35 tracks.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

I was like I listened to what three projects last night I was up late. I listened to you know, metro and future yep, uh. I listened to uh, it's not hip-hop but maggie rogers project. And I listened to this other project okay so it was like dude 35 tracks.

Speaker 2:

I can't do it right now, chris 35 is crazy, I will say, because it was originally 11. I don't know how we, how we double, like that. It's like 11-11.

Speaker 1:

I'm like 11, okay, All right.

Speaker 2:

But remember, chris has been doing the triple albums. He's been giving us like 60 records prior to this. Nonetheless, let's get into the beef, because I can't believe. Quavo and Chris are beefing over something. So I think even down to the future, and Drake thing. It's like you guys are beefing. This is a common denominator. Y'all all beefing over something. So, oh, I think even down to the future and drake thing.

Speaker 1:

It's like you guys are common denominator and y'all all beefing over women comment can we get into the metro and future album first though? Yeah, yeah, hey, because I I had some notes, like as I'm making my way do you prefer r&b future or? Rap feature. This is this is the second coming of hendrix. Really this is the second coming of hendrix wait.

Speaker 2:

So you like, um, we still don't trust you more than we don't trust you. Yes, wow, easily, easily, it just came out to easy, it just came out.

Speaker 1:

It just came out, but I'm ready like two and a half listens in the the fact that, okay, so the intro is a long project too for you to say that exactly.

Speaker 2:

You heard, charlamagne was on it too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah that was um, that was a, that was a number one intro yeah, the intro, it was the Bray Idiots so I was like, oh, shout out that they chopped that up, that was fire, um, but literally we still don't trust you. The intro, the title track I. I was like. I like one. The whites are going to love that. The whites are going to fuck with that hard body.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because did you hear the Calvin Harris album Funk Wave Bounces Mm-mm. You got to tap back into that. It came out in 2017. And there's this Future track with Khaled called Rollin', and Future was in that funk pocket, like that pocket right. There was like once I heard that I'm like, oh, this is gonna ring off in the middle of Miami this summer, like like they're gonna love that. And then, um, drink and Dance was more of the same. So I was fucking with it and I also love that. It got super petty because, like Future's pen works very well and I feel like Future doesn't get, like he doesn't get the due credit for his pen, like Future has wrote for himself.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, and he's also written hits for other people.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

So the fact that he dropped this Sunday which is, you know, drake interpolated it and Future has writing credits on Feel no Ways and Feel no Ways is my karaoke song so the fact that he dropped this Sunday, that's a great karaoke song and it's great to sub people too. You can just drop that. If you want to sub somebody, you just drop a lyric from Feel no Ways, just try it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah you sound like that was like a personal shock. But yeah, the fact that he dropped this Sunday and and you, you hear him fill away, fill away, I'm just like yo, like this is future reminding you like dog I have, I have a pen and it works very well, I see what you mean very well, and red leather was another leak that he actually put out. I'm not gonna talk about cole's verse yet, but why no?

Speaker 2:

colds hurt me, that hurt me like he's the only to like.

Speaker 1:

And what do I always say? I always say, uh, come through and chill. When he just starts talking about kaepernick kneeling and everything I'm like dog, like.

Speaker 2:

No woman wants to hear that, not right now even on my.

Speaker 1:

so he gets on his track with future and red leather again. Everybody wanted it to come out because it's been a leak for so long and you're like cool, I love the hey, the introspective shit. This is not the track for that. You talk about monogamy and just not knowing if you want to cheat or not. Nick, get your Dono Jones shit off.

Speaker 2:

Not the Dono Jones. That was Charlamagne's rebuttal too. This morning when I played the record, he was like yo, isn't Cole married? I'm like, yeah, he is. Yeah, it's not my favorite, it's not my favorite, I think it's just bad timing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and shout out to A$AP, a$ap, got some bars off. Yo, the ASAP got some bars off the list is getting longer and longer for the Avengers man.

Speaker 2:

The Avengers versus Thanos. This is getting crazy.

Speaker 1:

This is fun Were you expecting that? Was I expecting ASAP to shoot at the boat? No, I was not expecting that Me either.

Speaker 2:

I did think like, oh, I wonder if there's like tension just because of you know, rihanna, but they seem very happy and he seems so content. I'm surprised. I was surprised because I'm like man, you're living your best life as the prince of.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the day, it's a wrap. It's a wrap Whether I get you back, I know. But now, or six months from now, when I get back in the booth, it's up and plus does. Does asap have an album coming out? I don't know. Does he? Oh, yeah, he does, yeah, he does, oh okay, okay, it's like I. You know, I'm back in the booth, this is what it is. You're gonna feel this it was. It was kind of weak, but cool. You know the fact that he got in a booth and said something I wonder how did they source the features for this project?

Speaker 2:

Were these naturally picked or it feels a bit intentional?

Speaker 1:

I feel like everything's intentional with Metro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to Metro too. Metro is having.

Speaker 2:

He's going stupid.

Speaker 1:

His last four albums, because you have these two Spider-Man.

Speaker 2:

You have.

Speaker 1:

Spider-Man and you have his shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

These beats are immaculate, yeah, floating, and that's why I'm like this is a second Hendrix, because when Future gets to that R&B bag and he just lays out, I feel like he paints a picture very well and a lot of people miss out on that. He paints a picture very well and he'll also hit on these emotions. It's like, wow, like he's really getting into it. So for me it was like oh, this is hendrix part two, and it's what I've been saying to people like hendrix. Hendrix is a great body of work. So the fact that we got this, I'm like I'm gonna I'm gonna cool off with some for some time and listen to it back. Probably. You know it's monday morning, quarterback ish, but not this. This right here is it?

Speaker 2:

I will say my whole um thing with future. So I stopped listening to future about the time I graduated college, just because I felt like it no longer aligned with my lifestyle, like it actually never did. But I guess in college I didn't really care. But then once Dirty soda and a styrofoam.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, but that's college, so college it's fun. But then I think because career-wise I was trying to get into the industry and I was going through things, so hearing the things he was talking about, it just didn't align. So I stopped listening to Future. But obviously, after like that you know I'm tuned into the project I can't believe I'm excited to actually stay up to hear another project. You know just I miss that caring about the music and I'm glad that Future was able to bring that back. You know, like this is, this is intense. I'm on standby every day waiting for a new either verse. When's the last time you've been excited about a verse and they got the features hidden, which I kind of hate too, because it forces you to just listen straight through?

Speaker 1:

I love the hidden features Because on the first listen of an album me I just want to zen out Like I'll look at the name, but it's like all right, cool. I feel like with now, now, once people see that, like once people, if people were to see asap or see anyone else, they're like, okay, I'm going directly to that exactly and it's like no it forces you to listen exactly but this project is lengthier than the last one.

Speaker 2:

It is lengthier, yeah and only yo the.

Speaker 1:

You got weak the weekend sending shots, I know, and the weekend is on four or five tracks. It's not like he's on one track. Like on the intro I'm like, oh, we got some weekend vocals, cool. Then throughout the project we got some lengthy weekend verses and I'm like, oh shit, and he's doing some bridges and I'm like, oh, and then we get to that climax where he's it's a ovo direct shot they put it in rotation he's like, hey, if I would have signed over there I would have got buried.

Speaker 1:

And then he's dropping a lot of, you know, a few, a few, uh, a few shots there. So I'm like this was very intentional and yeah, I'm looking for, I'm looking forward to everything that goes down. I'm like because now people are I don't want to say people are forced to drop, but now again, everybody's looking forward to the responses. Now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Are we going to have more surprise drops? Are we going to see a feature from? Oh, this was the shot I loved.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

When Weeknd said how your shooters making TikToks.

Speaker 2:

Oh Lord.

Speaker 1:

And Baka was making the TikTok. Baka got nice so it was like damn, baka caught a nasty stray. He's from there too, right? Yeah, baka is Drake's guy.

Speaker 2:

No, but I'm saying he's from Toronto.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Man I don't know, but yes, I agree, I'm excited. Man I don't know, but yes, I agree, I'm excited. It feels like I was going to say Future Weeknd and Metro seem like they have their own tape together and this is just some records from a tape that they have put together. If that makes sense, I feel like they might as well have just all did a tape.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the thing is, weeknd said he's no longer doing features, though, so the fact that metro well I remember him and metro have an album and they also have another album coming out, I guess, so the fact that feature is the one. This was to get the last weekend. Features says a lot, or or it's like all right, I was done with, but since we giving this nigga smoke, I'm down to join along?

Speaker 2:

Do you think when and how do you think Drake should respond? That's a question I was asking people at Dreamville Fest too. When?

Speaker 1:

I don't think there's a timetable right, because his why I think is a timetable? Because Drake is a is a fast writer and he's also just come off tour last week, yeah, and I feel, going back to the, the Cole and Kendrick shit, kendrick he dropped that feature and I doubt we hear anything from Kendrick until late summer. I don't think we hear anything from Drake late summer. I don't think we hear anything from Drake late summer, but there have been rumblings that Kendrick has something ready to go. Who knows if that's true or not, I don't know, but I think I've heard those rumblings too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everybody's heard those rumblings.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to the niggas working in media when Drake drops, I don't know, but I know when he drops he's gonna give us 6-7 minutes just rapping like Drake long form. I don't think he's second to anyone when it comes to that. When he gives you an 8am in Charlotte he gives you a 9am in Dallas and he's just going off and he gives you a Tuscan leather. He's going to drop it at like 3am. He's going to drop it at 3am.

Speaker 2:

You think it's going to be a single, not a project. I was saying, see, I don't know how real all the beefs are, how about he pack it into like a scary hour. That's what I'm saying. A tape, yeah, a little scary hours.

Speaker 1:

I would scary hours, that's what I'm saying. A tape, yeah, a little scary hours. I would like that because, again, it's a lot of shots, it's a lot. It's a lot of shots coming out the crown. So it's like, strategically, who do you shoot at first? Do you shoot at kendrick first? And then it's like all right, he probably just heard what we heard last night weekend and asap shooting. So now he's like, all right, now I gotta rethink. You probably had a one track ready to go, but now he's like all right, now I got to rethink. You probably had a one track ready to go, but now it's like, nah, you got to.

Speaker 2:

Now that I'm thinking about it, if I'm Drake, I don't even know if I'm addressing these other niggas.

Speaker 1:

I feel like.

Speaker 2:

I'm only addressing the top, the top, If it's going to be multiple it's got to are top shots.

Speaker 1:

They're all top shots, but future metro weekend top shots pick one. You can't you. I didn't even mention kevin. That's three right there. Pick one. He's crazy weekend had like weekend has been like the uh, it's just funny weekend. He, like his numbers are, are out of this world. Yeah, they are he was literally like the uh, he's been the um. He's been doing the, the theme music for wrestlemania, for like the past five years. That's a great, great bag right there you know, yeah everywhere you stepped in, philly.

Speaker 1:

You're here in fucking weekend. So the fact that weekend came outside to shoot at you and that's your fellow countryman and he.

Speaker 2:

Well, we know they.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oreo xo is always yes rocky, but it's like the past few years we've thought that they've been cool. So the fact that Weeknd has come, it's hard to pick one. It's like if he picks Kendrick they're like ah, you don't hear them shooting at you and then you don't got no allies.

Speaker 2:

You know, I didn't even know that these niggas were a group of allies until this Metro project came out. It's like who does Drake? You can't go with Rick Ross. What is this?

Speaker 1:

And I don't think he Does this make him number one, because if everybody is clicking up and shooting, nobody clicks up and shoots at number three. Nobody clicks up and shoots at number two. Does this make Drake Thanos Talk about the Avengers? The Avengers teamed up to shoot at one person? I know, and I think he has it in him. I think Drake has it in him. I don't know what the response is going to look like, but we know the boy for the subs, the petty jabs, like I loved. I loved his verse on travis scott's uh last album on meltdown because it was like it was you don't know who he was shooting like. You're like oh, is he shooting at kanye? Oh, now he's shooting at pharrell. Now he's shooting that pusha t, now he's shooting at this person. So it was like. A verse like that was tough as fuck.

Speaker 2:

I think it's going to be good, but just because I've never seen a one versus so many what does it even look like? What is it going to sound like?

Speaker 1:

Get Drake in the booth, have 40. Chop up an Aaron Allen Kane sample and then let's get to it. I think just Drake and 40.

Speaker 2:

The question is why At least he has a 40. You know what I'm saying, because I was like. You know Cole doesn't have a 40. And I feel like that plays a part into how you prepare for war. But it needs to be just as Like. It has to hit just as hard, not just the record but the moment, you know.

Speaker 1:

So that's why I'm like so does he do on a feature. So on a feature would make a lot of sense, cause Kendrick's was on a feature but then, but who like?

Speaker 2:

who is it and who allows it? Who allows? Who wants smoke with us? You know what I?

Speaker 1:

mean who goes fuck it. I'm willing, I'm one of the, I'm one of the. Crash. My career, not even crash my career, put my career at risk.

Speaker 2:

Leonardo Wick man, yeah, who wants to smoke with us?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, who's willing to go. You know what Drake get off, because there's been again in recent history. There's been a lot of that for Drake, where Pusha T wanted to get off some bars and people are my track and yeah on that.

Speaker 2:

Now it's the tables have turned.

Speaker 1:

I'm surprised pusha not on the album actually, that that would have that that would have been overkill.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm surprised that would have been overkill.

Speaker 1:

You expect something less than that because I'm a pusha fan, I don't think somebody listen. Somebody can correct me, but I don't't think Pusha and Metro ever crossed paths on any tracks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It would be like we're deplaced and again we like the pettiness, we're like, okay, this aligns Metro and Weeknd. Future and Weeknd make great music together. The ASAP one was the one that we went.

Speaker 2:

Huh, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But also ASAP was on Metro's last few projects. Remember he was the last track of the heroes and villains album and they have crossed paths in the past, so throw in some synergy don't push it in there. It would just be like oh, oh, now you niggas is just, you know I. I like the way fuchsia took it. If we just like yo, my pen works. Let me throw out this track yeah, let me throw out this track.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let me throw out this right here. So for Drake, we want Scary Hours.

Speaker 1:

It has to be Scary Hours. This would be five Scary Hours five. You had Scary Hours three and then you had, for All the Dogs, scary Hours. So that would be the fourth one. This would be the fifth.

Speaker 2:

I don't doubt the pen. I'm just trying to wrap my head Around the moment Just because the Kendrick verse Was so Out the box, like I just didn't see it coming. That Now, because I know Something's coming, it's like how do I not See it coming?

Speaker 1:

And what we're in. We're in April. Yeah, you gotta drive something before OVO Fest OVO.

Speaker 2:

Fest. That's like the end of the year, damn near.

Speaker 1:

That's like the end of the year, damn near.

Speaker 2:

That's August. Oh, it's August.

Speaker 1:

It's.

Speaker 2:

August. I would like something before September, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I would like it to be before then. I just want to see does he get that off by himself or does he just hop on the feature and send us up?

Speaker 2:

But who could it be? It's not Travis.

Speaker 1:

Travis is on stage. The thing with Travisvis just likes music. I don't think travis chose a side travis is.

Speaker 2:

I think travis is awesome, like oh this sounds fire, play it.

Speaker 1:

That's what you think. That's what I really think with travis. I don't think travis wants any smoke or anything oh yeah, I don't think he wants any smoke.

Speaker 2:

I don't even think his music is built for that. That that's like a Texas home when it gets snowed on. It's just not built for it.

Speaker 1:

I just thought Travis really likes the fucking songs and whatever's out is his thing.

Speaker 2:

All right If I had to make my Drake Avenger team. Well, if you had to make your Drake Avenger team, who are you putting?

Speaker 1:

on it. Oh, that's crazy. Right now, there is no he's Thanos. There is no he's Thanos. There is no Avengers team. Well, he got.

Speaker 2:

Wayne.

Speaker 1:

He got Nikki. Wayne is not jumping. Wayne is not jumping out the box Because Wayne, again, wayne is, and this is where the politics get tricky. Wayne is super cool with Ross. Remember Ross and Birdman fell out, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

Because Ross picked Wayne. He was like nah, like, wayne is my guy, you know, and I don't think Wayne jumps into that. Nikki is on tour, nikki's not jumping into this, nikki's not jumping into that. So the cash money, I don't think anybody from cash money did not jump it in again.

Speaker 1:

This is a Drake's gotta deal with this and Drake can't act like it's come from out of nowhere, because you've been subbing all these niggas for years. Like I know you, you've been taking shots at a nigga's wife and baby mom, so of course made him right of of course, like asap is gonna shoot at you, like like you know the petty shit on stage. How about he does not?

Speaker 1:

I'm not doing work, no more work, you know, like little shit like that. So, of course, like everybody hears it same thing with what would pluto do, you know? So it's like all of these things are kind of the chickens are coming to roost, so you kind of have to deal with that and you can't expect anyone else to put their career on blast.

Speaker 2:

I just wanted to be explosive and I'm just mad that you brought Cole into this. He ain't had nothing to do with this shit. No, no, cole, cole.

Speaker 1:

Cole again. Cole started this shit.

Speaker 2:

Not really, though the internet did. That's internet narratives.

Speaker 1:

You can't acknowledge it, you can't acknowledge the internet.

Speaker 2:

That is so silly to me.

Speaker 1:

Yo, now I'm'm gonna send you One line From First Person Shooter Every day for the next 12 days.

Speaker 2:

Oh god, I'm not saying I'm not. I didn't disagree with you On the antagonizing part. I'm just saying like they are the big three. It was crazy. It was crazy that's now been Rebranded as the Fantastic Four. Fantastic Four, fantastic Four Ain't that some shit? That First Person Shooter line Didn't age well anyway, cause now it's four.

Speaker 1:

It's like milk. All these bars Are aging very horribly.

Speaker 2:

We should really get A Mount Rushmore. Atlanta should have A Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1:

It's tough for Atlanta To have a Mount Rushmore Very tough. Can't do it Cause it would have to be by error.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It would. It's too tough because literally you could just go dungeon family alone and you gotta remember future, future, future is dungeon family, which is crazy. He is so atlanta's mount rushmore, yeah, future's probably on it, but then it's like all right, outcasts take up two spots we really can't put them out, rushmore.

Speaker 2:

I, I think we could, I think we could they.

Speaker 1:

No, you can't you can't, because that's like doing one in new york. We could. I think we could. No, you can't. You can't.

Speaker 2:

Because that's like doing one in New York. We could do one in New York.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because New York has literally the top three greatest rappers to ever live, probably four.

Speaker 2:

Say the name Jay-Z.

Speaker 1:

Hov Rakim Nas Biggie. Okay, that's a good Mount Rushmore. It's an easy Mount Rushmore. It's an easy Mount Rushmore. Nobody's arguing it. It's an easy Mount Rushmore, there's mad and wild artists.

Speaker 2:

There's mad people who could, be like other people, deserve to be on there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but as a consensus everybody acknowledged New Yorker again.

Speaker 2:

hip-hop started here and we also have the greatest niggas to ever touch a mic Even out the greatest niggas to ever touch the mic, even out of the four you just named.

Speaker 1:

It's different decades. Some are same decade but it's different. I came in whole for like one year apart what yeah, where I came in whole, but like literally, I didn't know they were the same age yeah, rock, him was doing all that shit like a teenager so where I came in whole for literally like a year apart.

Speaker 2:

But they would have been different decades. They're different decades, but they are literally like a year apart, but they're in different decades.

Speaker 1:

That's nuts. They're in different decades, but they're literally like a year apart.

Speaker 2:

Hold on, let me Google this, because no that's really crazy, because when you think about Rakim you really think mad old.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, okay, yeah, rakim is not even a full year older. He's like a month older than hove wow, now that's.

Speaker 2:

That's a little insane, but the error you enter counts, it matters not it definitely does.

Speaker 1:

But like new york is just like super easy, like biggie, probably the greatest rapper ever. Hove is probably the greatest rapper ever. Nod is probably the greatest rapper ever. Like it's always, those guys have always been in the conversation. Atlanta is trickier because atlanta went through so many I don't want to say so many eras, but they went through like I would say it's more versatile than new york, like because you have for your future. You have somebody like big boy, you know, and then for your big boy you have somebody like gucci man and for your gucci man you have gz.

Speaker 2:

So then you have ti, ti, like again so theirs would look a little different, because it wouldn't be four it wouldn't be four, yeah, you have groups coming out of atlanta so it's like, all right, where do you place that?

Speaker 1:

does a group hold one specific?

Speaker 2:

they would have to.

Speaker 1:

That's fucked up yeah, like because like respectively um 3k and big boy are like amazing. So it's like I don't. I don't yes, they're a group, but it's like they're their own people. So I just gotta take up space there, so in atlanta, and and somebody who's from the south could probably, you know, break this down better than me but for me growing up it was like, okay, ti was the nigga yeah, you know, and after ti you have gucci and gz and you have future.

Speaker 1:

Who's been on the run for however long? So if you probably want to go with that four right there, cool, but then somebody's gonna be like no, andre, three stacks is the greatest nigga to ever touch a mic, and yeah, I mean, I'm a big outcast fan, but you know what, I don't even want to do this.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I don't want no problems anywhere that I go. I be in atlanta a lot, but outcast really is my favorite. I have their posters in my studio. I'm a big trap call quest is one of my favorite groups, so anybody that's like an everyday man type rap I'm usually a fan of. But um, I think I would do it based on the now based on it now.

Speaker 1:

So what? What is now? Because you gotta say now, and it's like modern era like I'm not meaning like Lil Baby and Lotto.

Speaker 2:

I mean more like the Titans, like the futures, you know, like the people you name. Okay, the TI, the Jeezy, the 2 Chainz.

Speaker 1:

The how could I forget 2 Chainz? You see, like 2 Chainz is, I love 2 Chainz. Shout out 2 Chainz Based on a true story.

Speaker 2:

It's one of my favorite Mixtapes ever and even like what they do for atlanta business wise and like damn.

Speaker 1:

Oh fuck ludacris yeah, luda had a only dude moving records. Is m pimp jude, like like luda, and like luda was, was in there moving records as well, you know.

Speaker 2:

So it's like so what's the mount rushmore at? Well, we got seven that's, that's.

Speaker 1:

I guess, Killer Mike OutKast, I was going to say Killer Mike too. Killer Mike has been giving a solid versus for over 20 years.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, now that's going to be a hard one. And we didn't even mention Thugger. Oh yeah, thugger had to be on there. Atlanta got a lot of staples, it's too tough. I guess we could do this with new york too, but I don't know why the atlanta ones feel bigger to me again.

Speaker 1:

We're talking, you know, recently, so, like recently, atlanta has been like a hub for you know, like migos, migos is probably the best rap group ever. You can throw it out. You can argue the migos are like I've did. I've said that too.

Speaker 2:

You can throw, you can throw it out. That mig argue. The me goes off the offset to you can throw.

Speaker 1:

You can throw it out that Migos are probably the biggest rap group ever you think they're bigger than I love? It okay, I love outcasts.

Speaker 2:

I don't think tribe is that big. You know they try with that big.

Speaker 1:

No, like they're like best, but like big like commercial success.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think they're that big.

Speaker 1:

Migos, migos and Outkast because you got speaker box.

Speaker 2:

I think Outkast and then followed by Migos. I put them in two type or yeah, fugees.

Speaker 1:

Bad and Bougie move mountains.

Speaker 2:

Fugees Lauren. We got Lauren we're gonna have to have a conversation about lauren one of these days I don't like the tone that you took in bringing up we have to have a conversation. I don't like the tone that you took in saying lauren's name, sir, what is that? What do you mean? We gotta have a conversation about lauren not today.

Speaker 2:

Not today off off air oh my god one of these days we have to have a conversation man, there's people that always argue me about lauren hill and I feel like it's just because I got natural hair that I get these attacks like there's nothing to art, like she's a creative genius nah, she's, she's crazy. I think that someone just said this to me at Drewbell Fest. They're always like Lauryn Hill ruined female rap Because she left, there was no representation and Pussy Pop and TAKE took over.

Speaker 1:

I don't like that take.

Speaker 2:

I hate that take.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a big fan of that take.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to put out what manager said that to me.

Speaker 1:

That's an odd take to have, because we literally just watched um. And I said this to you if rhapsody drops layla's wisdom any other year she wins that grammy yeah but you just happen to drop in between a year where ho dropped a classic album and kendrick dropped a great album yeah, and travis, wasn't that astroworld? No, no, that's when that's. That's the year after oh, okay okay, and that was a stacked lineup, it was yeah travis asked the world swimming mac miller victory lap.

Speaker 1:

Nipsey uh daytona invasion of privacy and invasion of privacy one so yeah rhapsody was like that was a great eye, one of my favorite albums, but she was just sandwiched in between 404, which was a masterpiece, and then you had damn that drop. So it was like that was a great album, one of my favorite albums, but she was just sandwiched in between 404, which was a masterpiece, and then you had damn that dropped. So it was like, uh, so I don't like that take, especially when I feel like men get the opportunity to not take music seriously and just drop anything. So the fact you're gonna say, oh, lauren hill, pussy, how can you do that? And eve popped off like literally, like right, like that same year that's true like eve was a monster, you know.

Speaker 1:

And then also lil kim was out before lauren hill, so like like hardcore came out before that and then you know.

Speaker 2:

So it was like when I hear that take when it comes to like women rappers, it's like you're not looking for it, we're in the age where you can look for music if you don't like something you don't you but you really do have to look for it because, I mean, I'm excited for rapid's album to drop next month may 17th, you guys but, um, I feel like she doesn't get the credit that she deserves. That's why I always try to highlight people who are doing the work instead of just what's the most popular. But I'm I I really hope and pray that rap gets the flowers that she deserves with this one, because it's time, like she said, that she and one of the singles that she almost thought about stopping, like rap completely. And it's like, damn man, that's how we got you feeling like you don't feel appreciated. No wonder lauren left that rap city damn near left. You know what I'm saying. So I just um salute rap city, one of my favorites, so I'm glad you brought her up.

Speaker 1:

Great example I rock with rap and there's a million other. You know rappers that are great like no name is is great. You know you have doji great like this is phenomenal, you know like like. My favorite album last year was by doja cat.

Speaker 1:

Like doja cat can bar you up yeah no, but if you're not going to not even say look for it. But if you're not going to listen to it, you can't come out like we'll listen to any random lil that that was coming out and it would be nothing. So the fact that we're gonna talk about pussy like we're gonna quarter it into pussy, pop rap, it's like all right, cool, you know. But again, now we're just talking club shit, like club shit, microwave shit, yeah, cool.

Speaker 1:

But it's there, you just gotta look it's there and you also have to if you're in a position to promote it. Why are you not promoting? You know for so like for somebody who's a? Manager is saying like I can't.

Speaker 2:

I think he's trolling me. I'm gonna assume he's trolling me because that's a bad troll.

Speaker 1:

The troll has to be masterful.

Speaker 2:

That's a bad troll that is a bad troll, I agree with you, um, but speaking of trolling, oh, did we talk about people saying cold verses? And is invalidated now cold what? Verses are invalidated because of the braggadocious rap that's.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying I I'm not saying they're invalid, but they take off the sting there's, there's, there's no sting there. For me, it's like ah okay, yes, nigga, yes, you're waiting for somebody to shoot at you. No, you aren't nigga.

Speaker 2:

My question is does the sting hit when someone's rapping something that someone else wrote for them? Does it still sting? Your favorite rapper has a ghostwriter. It stings even though he ain't write that. So if Cole felt like that in the moment, why he can't feel like that in the moment?

Speaker 1:

Because it's been the setup. It's been the setup. It's been the setup for the five years of this feature run.

Speaker 2:

It's been the five years of the feature run was supposed to be set up for this amazing album called the Fall Out that we waiting for.

Speaker 1:

Not this shit, that the fallout is gonna be great. But you can't continuously tell niggas nobody's gonna step up and do something. Then the minute somebody steps up and does something, you're like you know what respectfully I bow out. Oh god, it can't be that way. You know like ho, ho, what. What I love about hove is hove is one of the. I would say he started the sub thing. You know, like he started the sub thing. So when you have Cam'ron and Jim Jones talking about him wearing open-toed sandals and stuff like that, and then he's like all right, I see you. And then he gives you a bar about yeah, I'm wearing flip flops, white Louis Bo shoes, I should grow the fuck up. Come in, let me coach you. It's like oh, like oh, you got, you got the bar, you got the bar. Well, you know you could. You could give something like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that's setting on Jay-Z's soul, like telling niggas to grow up. You know, you could, you know, know like it can be something like that. It's like I, yo, you feel like you're the best. I'm gonna tell you why you're not the best, or I'm the best, because such and such nigga I'm outside. I've been having features for all these five years. You pop out every two and a half he could have took a different approach. You could go a different. You could go a different route. Where does it have to be malicious?

Speaker 1:

yeah, you know where it's like I, I acknowledge you, let's go. So now you have the simba tracks happening. You have all these other tracks that are gonna pop up.

Speaker 2:

I'm I'm annoyed by them, but I guess I get. It is gonna get young jock no, let me explain that meme.

Speaker 1:

No, remember the 42 duck bar before I go broke like jock and it's like damn, like we fuck with young jock hard body we do the fact that that's an opening line, a club banger. It's not like you think. Like young jock has, like young jock has bigger hits than 42. Duck right, young jock has. Like young jock has bigger hits than 42 doug, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, whatever you know, let I'll give young jock his flowers. Somebody's gonna, there's gonna be a 42 doug out there, who's like 20 something, and they're gonna make a colon and that shit is gonna be fire, damn. And you, and it's not gonna be a little pump situation because that shit is gonna be fire and it's gonna get airplay. Yeah, so now you, because that shit is going to be fire and it's going to get airplayed, yeah. So now you've left yourself. When you've come out and said it, just don't respond, like I understand. But when you put out the song and less than three days later you're coming out and saying, yeah, this has been sitting on my soul, now people can throw rocks at the throne.

Speaker 2:

They were already like looking at the throne. No, oh it was three days.

Speaker 1:

It was three days. It was three days, it was was it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it was. It was because he did it sunday night tuesday because it was two.

Speaker 1:

It was two days because he dropped it. What?

Speaker 2:

you left friday morning, so yeah it was three days.

Speaker 1:

He dropped it on thursday night and then he did that on sunday.

Speaker 2:

You know, even with the, I'm kind of jumping all over the place, sorry, but even with that moment with Cole, it had the same shock factor as like that. That's why I'm like what is Drake's shock factor going to be? Even though Cole's shock factor wasn't necessarily the most positive response, it was still. That's just hip hop. We're seeing hip hop, history being written.

Speaker 1:

These are moments, Drake is going to have to reference evil ways. So you know him and cole had to track evil ways.

Speaker 1:

Yeah it was like young asia going through his demon faith. He's gonna have to acknowledge like yo, like cole, is you know a better man. Yeah, he's gonna drop something like that where it's like well, that'd be good. He's gonna be like, hey, you know, like cole, cole, cole is one of the good guys. Me, I'm, nah'm not, I ain't like that. Nigga, you're going to get these bars. So I feel like again, I'm not saying Cole left himself open, but now Again these.

Speaker 1:

You're going to get these outrageous ass lines. You're going to be like who the fuck is.

Speaker 2:

Now he's the new young Jack.

Speaker 1:

You're going to be like who is digital next Making a shot at Cole?

Speaker 2:

And if that shit is fire and you're hearing it all summer, I'm gonna know it. I will not support it.

Speaker 1:

I'm team dreamville baby, you won't support it. But then when they come up to you in the middle of the set like yo, okay, you're not gonna play such and such no uh, listen, listen, the ladies move the club, so the ladies come in and request it. You're gonna say no yes okay, I'll hold you to it I will hold you.

Speaker 1:

You think they're gonna have a hit record like that it is, it's in the realm of possibility and I'm not saying in things we don't know where. Like we did not think, baby and 42 dog, we're gonna drive a track just shooting that well, if it's years from now, hopefully I'm not in the club. I'll just leave it at that, because hopefully not right now, because I can't take it, yeah, like right Right now, if it's popping and the ladies want to hear it, sandwiching between a sexy rad and Glorilla song.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I do that now with a lot of music, so I'll leave it at that. Shout out Glow. Shout out Glow. Also, shout out to Lotto, who I think she was either doing a podcast or shooting some content with somebody. And they asked her who her top three female rappers are and she said Lil' Kim Left Eye, who is my personal favorite. And then she said Shawty. Now the internet is saying Shawty is actually Nicki Minaj. So I'm like you know what? The fact that she even included her on the list is commendable. Any chance you think that they would bury the beef?

Speaker 1:

I don't know how that one goes. Can't call it. I can't call it With other niggas I could see it, but again, nikki and Kendrick, they don't come out. No and Lotto.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Nikki and Kendrick, they don't come outside. So if they shoot at somebody it's like all right, nigga. I'm saying, like Nicki and Kendrick, they don't come outside. So if they like shoot at somebody, it's like all right, nigga, I'm good, like I can keep it pushing, like I put both of them in that same realm when it's like if they shoot at somebody, they shoot at them and they go back to their families.

Speaker 1:

Oh I don't think Nicki needs to, like you know, reconcile with anyone. It's like I have my family, my young money family to fall back on too. For sure I don't need to do features with you, niggas.

Speaker 2:

She really don't. She don't need to do features, but it would just be fun for the culture. The same reason why we wanted to see Cole go crazy to 7-Minute.

Speaker 1:

Okay, this is the one fun thing as a culture that I did. I giggled at when I was talking to my mans. I was like, though we don't mind the cold apology, we mind that it came this early, you don't? You don't apologize before it gets personal you gotta pop like yeah you gotta shoot first, and let us be like amen, that was too much as black man.

Speaker 2:

We gotta and nobody said it was too much.

Speaker 1:

Hey, we, we got to sit, you know. So it's like same thing with Lotto. Like Lotto was called her freaky grandma, you know.

Speaker 2:

Super freaky grandma.

Speaker 1:

So it's like I don't know, you know that's the kind of disses that we, but that's like petty. Yeah, that's petty, that's petty but it's like oh, like grandma, like word I Like. Oh, grandma, like word, I bet. Say no more, you know. So I don't feel Nikki ever has to acknowledge Lotto ever Like Nikki can go. Nikki's on tour. Nikki's not doing press runs or anything, she's just strictly on tour.

Speaker 2:

Dang the fact you said not ever. Fair enough, but she already did a dresser, so it's kind of already in the air. Because, again, I hate that our goats have access to twitter. Yeah, no, really, get off of twitter. Somebody get meek's meal. Twitter, nikki, you don't need to be beefing with lotto.

Speaker 1:

But like the game is a top five west coast rapper. You can put him in top 10 ever like in in rap, but the fact that he has twitter yeah like I can't tell somebody go listen to the game's first two albums and you're gonna know him from his tweets or say yo go listen to the game's last album. These will be like you know, but you take that. Yeah, take twitter away from our goats. Twitter has ruined a lot of perceptions.

Speaker 2:

But um, what were we talking about earlier? I think for me, like I would like nikki to embrace more of the girls, because now on the girl's side of hip-hop, I know we keep talking about the fantastic four, but the division that's going on between the girls, like I don't really like it. I want us to just keep having fun. I hate that. It's like you're either team cardi or your team nikki.

Speaker 1:

We having fun, though uh, I mean glow, and meg got the internet no on the fren Frenzy.

Speaker 2:

I love that record.

Speaker 1:

It's on repeat and the challengers have been getting thrown around.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, you're loving it. I know All the men are, all the men are.

Speaker 1:

I am just a spectator here. Oh God, I am here to support however I can.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we wrap the show with questions that need answers. I can, yeah, yeah, I'm sure we wrap the show with questions that need answers. So if you have any questions that you would like to ask me, feel free, just one, and then I'm going to open it up actually for listeners to write in questions or just email in questions. So at NylaWNTTLK, at gmailcom, just send your question and then I'll either respond to the email or I'll respond to it on the next episode if I feel like it's something that should be shared with the class.

Speaker 1:

But no pressure if you don't have a question, um, ken, but if you do, feel free as a media person, do you feel like people are going to take it easier on certain factions or people if a button does get pressed and they want to? I don't want to say land the interview, but they want to land the interview. Do you feel like people downplay one side versus the other because of said connections?

Speaker 2:

yeah, 100 100 I mean, I've already seen it happen, it's been happening before, okay, and they're not even getting the interviews.

Speaker 1:

They've been doing that just I'm like for something as colossal as this. We've never we've never seen anything like it. I know we got to bring back djs dropping this records yo please slide one my way, I would love and then rp mr c as well, but like I'm just remember mr k slay as well, rp k slay I remember like k slay would have a record yeah, he would have a record clue to clue would have a record this and all on the tape.

Speaker 1:

You know it would be something getting spun with bombs dropping. So I feel like we got. We got to get back to. I know it's cool to drop, give it to a dj, let let them drop some ad libs on it not for real drop that link if we're doing that, then we pick inside is that picking sides?

Speaker 1:

because I believe djs are exempt from picking sides oh, okay, I like that I believe dj again. Like you said, you're doing it for you're part of the culture yeah so when we like, if we're just gonna get into hip-hop culture, sound clashes and everything, djs are not picking sides. They're like, all right, this is what, yeah, this is what was given to me and I'm giving it to the people. That's true.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I can't disagree with that at all. Even at Dreamville Fest I was going around Asking people questions about what's going on and shooting content for it. And then Tez called me and was like not you over here choosing violence? And I'm like this isn't choosing violence. I'm actually getting a gauge from the crowd as to what the temperature is, because I want to know, and people need to know, what the temperature is. But obviously I stand where I stand, but I'm not like there's some people who are like blindly loyal. No, I can, I'm still a rap fan at the end of the day.

Speaker 1:

So I'm gonna gauge the whole scope of it I realized there's like certain people that would not have like rap convos with Like cause. It was like so funny seeing people change in four days. It was like, oh yo, you know, actually to Pimple Butterfly it wasn't that good. I'm like nigga, stop it.

Speaker 2:

Well, on that note, you have great taste in music. Are you going to make a playlist or something, or you're just? You stay in the back.

Speaker 1:

No, I have mad playlists Like. But have mad playlists like, but the thing is I don't like share them out like that, like I'll send it to like friends, like I'll be like yo, what are you listening to?

Speaker 2:

uh, and like we'll just trade shit back and why not share, for those who have been listening to you and your opinions on this pod? How can they tap in with kent?

Speaker 1:

oh, that's tough, uh, I mean, I would say my instagram is uh, ken from bk. It's pretty simple, so I'll probably throw something up. I think you should. I mean, I would say my Instagram is Ken from BK. It's pretty simple, so I'll probably throw something up.

Speaker 2:

I think you should, I'll probably throw something up.

Speaker 1:

I definitely have like a playlist which is crazy, like the last few plays I've made have like zero rap.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Zero rap.

Speaker 2:

So that's where you're at right now. Yeah, so you're following the beef, but you're not even really.

Speaker 1:

I'm following it as a fan. Yeah, what I'm listening to right now. Right now it's like 12 pm, nigga, I ain't listening to no rap this morning.

Speaker 2:

What are you listening to?

Speaker 1:

What was the last song I listened to? I listened to the Future album and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes.

Speaker 1:

I told you I'm listening to that Maggie Rogers album.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Album. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, you did tell me this. Maggie rise shot the nyu alums man. Oh wow, nyu, I didn't know she went there. Um, all right, well, tap in with ken ken from bk on the gram. Make sure you guys follow at wnttlk. We need to talk on the gram and tiktok as well, and we'll be back next saturday. This is we need to talk. Wrap up peace.

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