"I was really excited to sit with SadBoi as I am a big fan of the record Slide. That is one of those records for me that set the tone, and I think it will be in heavy rotation as we approach the summer.
In our interview, I got to learn more about her upbringing in Toronto, the villain origin story behind her name SadBoi, being mentored by Drake, the culture shock she faced moving to Atlanta, and we get the EXCLUSIVE that SadBoi will be dropping her new EP 'Girl Culture'."
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"I was really excited to sit with SadBoi as I am a big fan of the record Slide. That is one of those records for me that set the tone, and I think it will be in heavy rotation as we approach the summer.
In our interview, I got to learn more about her upbringing in Toronto, the villain origin story behind her name SadBoi, being mentored by Drake, the culture shock she faced moving to Atlanta, and we get the EXCLUSIVE that SadBoi will be dropping her new EP 'Girl Culture'."
Talk Soon! ✌🏾
Stay connected! Follow @wnttlk on all platforms.
I can't believe I actually blinked when I was younger.
Speaker 2:Chewed my liquids, chewed your liquids.
Speaker 1:I still do, yeah, I know, I need you to explain. What the fuck do you mean? Are you chewing your?
Speaker 2:gums. No, no, no, no Liquids. So it's like if you're drinking something, you go like like it's food, you don't just swallow it Exactly. I knew you were going gonna react like that. Why? I don't know why I'm like that. I still do it. Now, if I'm really enjoying something, I'll be chewing my liquids, mmm girl, okay, don't wait, though If I'm on a date, I don't do it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know anymore. Have you tried to not do it?
Speaker 2:I purposely like not think about it.
Speaker 1:Like I try to prevent myself. Does it make it taste different?
Speaker 2:No right, I don't notice, I do it Interesting.
Speaker 1:Okay, did someone point it out? Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, I thought it was gonna be on a date. She didn't look good though. What's up, guys? It's Saab boy. You might have heard my song, sly See, man's just love to chop when he's screaming through. The guys, tell me, where was all that energy when it was time to slay, just dancing all night, babu, babu. When it was time to slay, I know where you at now. Babu, babu, babu, babu. When it was time to slay, nyla, we need to talk.
Speaker 1:What's going on, guys? Now it's Simone here with another episode of we Need To Talk, and today I got a very special guest in the building. We got sad boy here. How are you Hi? I'm good, I'm cold, cold, but I'm good. Yes, you actually came to New York on a good weather week. I will say yeah, I was literally just saying, like Sun, when you came, because today's still pretty good, I'm not gonna lie, it's because you got on a skirt.
Speaker 2:But I've been wearing like tracksuits and I'm like, okay, I'm way too hot, like it's like one of those. And as soon as I put a miniskirt on, I'm like, oh, it's cold.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, and New York weather for you, but you're from Toronto.
Speaker 2:Some used to it. I should be, but you're from Toronto, I'm from Toronto.
Speaker 1:So I'm used to it.
Speaker 2:You're used to this I should be used to it, but I'm just like.
Speaker 1:I'm not used to it. The looks, you gotta give the looks, so you just gotta do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I like it. I'm a fan of the Runny mascara that you always do. Thank you. How much time does it take you to actually do your makeup?
Speaker 2:You know what's so crazy? I actually don't wear a lot of makeup. Like I literally just like because I have like acne scars. Right now, like lately, like I don't know what's been going on, but I've been like battling with like acne, so I literally just put concealer, like right here, and like blush. So it doesn't really take me long. Like it probably takes me like 15, 20 minutes, that's fire. Yeah, it doesn't take me long at all, love that and I love the glossy lids.
Speaker 1:Thank you, that is like my favorite look right now. Thank you, but can we talk about before we get into the music I want to talk about? Well, I also want to get into you, but I want to talk about your fashion and aesthetic, because I feel like that was the first thing I noticed and drew me to you before I even heard your music. So, like, what is this image called? Where do you get your inspo from?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I would call this crybaby attire, but honestly, I got a lot of my inspo like from Tumblr. Like I've been on Tumblr like heavy, like I just be scrolling on Tumblr, like I know a lot of people say instagram or like they use like I use pinterest too. I like pinterest, yeah. Like I don't know how. Like even the other day I found this like photo that I had saved on my phone and I'm like, oh my god, I got this one pinterest. But I'm like I don't know how I even found this on pinterest. Like I just find myself like in a deep hole where I'm just like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. But like that's how it is with like tumblr, because I just feel like all the hidden gems are all like on pinterest and tumblr. But yeah, yeah, that's really where I get my inspo from.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna have to get back on tumblr. You're inspiring me. It's been a while since I've been on there. Yeah, okay so talk to me about who sad boy is your backstory, and talk to me about what it's like growing up in Toronto.
Speaker 2:Well, growing up in Toronto like first it's lit. I love it so much. I feel like it's like a melting pot, like you have like people from all over Like I feel like it's like kind of similar to like New York in a way, where it's like everyone, like you're just meeting people from like all over the world. Like there's different food, we listen to different type of music, even the parties everyone's dancing in parties. At the parties in Toronto, I feel like in Atlanta, especially after moving there and being there for a few years, I feel like I noticed a huge difference in the parties, even the music. I feel like people are just now getting hip to even Afro beats and even then my friends will call me like the music. Like I feel like people are just now getting hip to like even like Afro beats and even then, like my friends will call me and they'll be like oh, guess what they're playing? They're playing Dancehall and it's Burnable and I'm like this is not Dancehall. But yeah, growing up in Toronto it's like lit. Like I'm very blessed to have like grown upADBOY, my name's SADBOY.
Speaker 2:It really came from heartbreak. So I was dealing with someone who was really depressed, who battled with addiction and stuff like that, and I just felt like they weren't treating me the best, in a way that I should be treated, and it really was me becoming him in a way. I found that I kind of picked up on certain traits that he had, so I no longer cared about certain things, the same things he would do to me. I literally found myself doing it to other people and I just kept making music and I just kept calling him sad boy, sad boy, sad boy, and I just was like, hmm, I'm gonna call myself sad boy and sad boy.
Speaker 2:And uh, I just like was like, hmm, I'm gonna call myself sad boy. And that's really like where I'm at, like even like in my music. It's just, it's interesting because I feel like right now I'm in a place with my music where I'm really just like having fun and and like just kind of enjoying like the space I'm in, where I'm kind of just like doing what he did to me and like being him in a way. But I also feel like it's powerful in a way, like for a female to like you know, kind of like say like this is what it is, but like embrace it, and I haven't talked about it but there definitely is going to be a time where I talk about him and say like this is why, like I'm sad you put a name on it right now, I'm just, I'm just enjoying it.
Speaker 1:You know it looks like you're having fun with it yeah, okay, so to to fold.
Speaker 1:I should have asked these questions separately. I don't want to forget things. But in regards to your friends calling you and being like they're playing dancehall, I just feel, like you said, I grew up in Maryland and when I moved to New York it was a culture shock because they would play like hour-long sets of Afro beats and I'm like what the fuck? And they'll do Soca and Bad Bunny and stuff like that, but similar to Atlanta, like I'm used to being trapped out. You know Migos, future Yo Gotti or whatever the case may be. So did you have that when you went to Atlanta?
Speaker 1:Like wait you guys were playing rap for hours straight. Yes.
Speaker 2:Like, especially too, like I remember, like when I first moved to Atlanta.
Speaker 2:It was like around the time, like I think it was right before COVID. So I was outside for a summer and I was like, oh my God, I love Atlanta and I remember I used to go to hookah spots, because we don't I was at least for me I wasn't really introduced to shisha. In Toronto we call it shisha, but I wasn't introduced to shisha hookah until I really moved to Atlanta. And being in the hookah spots, even when you go get food, like everyone has, like hookah, I know, and like they're just like blasting trap music and I'm just like, oh, like this is lit. So like I was outside a lot, even like during COVID I was outside yo, I know yo.
Speaker 2:Atlanta's the only place that was open during. Covid, I felt so bad, because my friends be like in the house in Toronto. They're like, oh my god, like you're outside. I'm like, yeah, we're outside, but I got COVID.
Speaker 1:You did end up catching COVID. Yes, I got COVID. Was it during COVID or?
Speaker 2:was it after? No, it was during, like probably like the week. Like there was, like you know, like remember the period where, like we had like no toilet papers, like it was like serious.
Speaker 1:Wait, so that means you had like the, that's like the first batch of it, so you had the serious one.
Speaker 2:Yes, Lord, have mercy. Like I felt like I was dying, like I could not walk. I was like oh, I'm about to pass out.
Speaker 1:But you still went back outside.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no, I was inside. After that I learned my lesson, but for the two weeks or for the whole time? No, for the whole time, really. Yes, I was really scared because at first I was like, okay, I came home. I literally remember I left the club, I came home and it was freezing in my house so I thought I got sick from the AC being so high and my body was just aching. And I remember, within 24 hours I could not move, I could not walk. I had no energy.
Speaker 1:Then the next day, like I lost, like my senses, like smell, like my taste buds.
Speaker 2:Yes, like it was like gradually happening.
Speaker 1:Did it come back? Yeah, it came back. Okay, I know some people said they haven't even gotten their senses back. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:I be tasting my jerk chickens, so Okay, interesting.
Speaker 1:So now you became the toxic one. Yeah, now you became the toxic one. You're standing in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I became the toxic one definitely.
Speaker 1:Have you been working on not being toxic or are you just enjoying this?
Speaker 2:I'm definitely enjoying it. I think like, in a sense, like I'm just kind of more like I don't want to say like it is what it is, but I feel like I kind of have like this mindset where it's like it is what it is and I'm just kind of putting myself first.
Speaker 2:But I do think as much as I'm enjoying it, I'm also like very much aware that it's not okay. So like, for example, like I am in like therapy, you know like, and there are things like I talk about and like a lot of it stems from like that relationship. So I think, like, just like for myself and just like the friendships that I have and just like how I interact with people, just being like aware of that. But like, when it comes to like relationships, like right now, I'm like nah, like I literally have guys be like well, you acting like a nigga, and I'm like I don't know what else to tell you no-transcript.
Speaker 2:Cuz, not easy. It's definitely not easy. I feel like I still battle with like certain things and again, like I think, even like when I first moved to Atlanta like it goes back to Atlanta like I Literally was like introduced to like a completely different lifestyle than like the one that I was used to in Toronto. Even seeing girls with implants I never seen that in Toronto like that was very, very new to me. So I was like, damn, like I want to get my boobs done, like I have small ass boobs. So I'm like I want to get my boobs done, like I want to get my body done.
Speaker 2:And literally I remember like all my friends, like every friend that I made in Atlanta, they'd be like when are you gonna get your body done? Cuz, like everyone was getting their body done and I was like I'm gonna go do this. And I remember like my mom and I like actually like going back and forth Because she's like why are you doing this? Like every other month I would like book like a new appointment to be like, oh, I'm going to talk to this person.
Speaker 2:Yeah like she'd be like why are you doing this? And I'm like I don't know. So like I definitely like battled with that, like that was like your boobs done and I'm like.
Speaker 1:They offering that in Atlanta? Yeah, and I'd be like what are you?
Speaker 2:talking about. So I think it definitely like fucked with me.
Speaker 1:I can't believe niggas is out here offering that. What date is that? You guys are a few weeks in at least, right, no?
Speaker 2:No, no, it was like my first date. That's a pickup line in Atlanta. That's crazy. It literally was my first date and I was like, oh yeah, I'm not in Canada anymore. But that was the moment I was like, okay, this is insane.
Speaker 1:That is very different, so I went through it.
Speaker 2:I definitely went through it, but even now, I feel like I still battle with those things now. So building confidence for me, it's just I don't know, because I'm a really big homebody, I love being home, but I also enjoy doing makeup. So I feel like whenever I'm feeling down or I feel like a way, I'll just go in my washroom, sit in my sink and just do my makeup, even if it just means to put lip liner on. That's literally like you know. So I feel like every day.
Speaker 2:Yes, like lip liner, but yeah, that's really like I don't know. I feel like it's something that I'm still like battling with now but luckily, like I have like a good group of like friends and stuff to always like gas me up and stuff, but yeah I I respect your honesty and that, and definitely when I go to atlanta you see ass everywhere, ass everywhere.
Speaker 1:But I will say that I feel like, um, at least from a mainstream standpoint, we're seeing more of a balance now, like there's more natural body women in the game, like a tyla or like a Koi or like a Sad Boy. I even throw you in there too. So I'm always excited to see stuff like that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you're doing great man. If no one's told you. Thank you, okay, so talk to me about Slide the EP. That record is fun. The video is super dope too. Actually Very moody when you go into shooting these music videos, like I don't imagine you're like this in real life, but what, what, um, I guess mindset do you get in when you're shooting these these videos um, well, I don't like shooting anything during the day, like shoot at night.
Speaker 2:Yes, like I think that's maybe why it looks moody, because everything's at night. Everything I shoot is nighttime, even my photos, nighttime, what I don't know. Maybe it's a Canadian thing, because I feel like in Toronto the whole vibe in Toronto is very moody. But even for me I just feel like everything looks better in the nighttime.
Speaker 2:But yeah, going into like the mood really forced slide, like I really was just trying to like have a good time with my friends when I like was shooting like that content stuff. It wasn't really like a situation where I planned anything or tried to force anything. Like my friend came with like that Tesla truck. That was like a surprise, like that wasn't even like a plan but it just like went with the vibe and we just like found like a parking lot and we just like went on the rooftop and shot it. But yeah, like in my mind I was just like I wanna like call out all my friends in Atlanta, like especially like the girls I really fuck with and just drink and just, you know, dance. Yeah, it looked like y'all had fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we definitely had fun. And then in the other video, is it Patience which one?
Speaker 2:Oh, are you talking about Potential? Potential, yeah, yeah, potential. Yeah, that was in my house. That one was fun. That was like a whole sleepover vibe. Yeah, yeah, that house, that one was fun, that was like a whole like sleepover vibe. Yeah, yeah, that one was interesting. Um, because, like, growing up, like my parents are like caribbean, so like we weren't really like I don't know like if you grew up in like a caribbean household, if you know how like that goes, but it's like sleepovers are like a no, that's all black people, anyone coming to the house is like a no.
Speaker 2:So like it was just kind of me trying to like relive that, like childhood that I was kind of like you know, like something I wish I like experienced, so like I really just did like a sleepover, like themed video, which was really really fun. It was cute. Yeah, it was really fun. Where are your parents from? My mom's Jamaican and my dad's Antiguan?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a spicy mix.
Speaker 2:It's a spicy mix. It's a rare mix. Is there any new music we can expect from you? Yes, I'm actually like looking to drop my first ep called girl culture, um early may, which I'm really excited about. Um, there are some dope female features on there. Um, girls I really really really fuck with.
Speaker 2:And um, yeah, like the track list it's I mean again, like it kind of goes back to like the conversation that I was having like with, like I went back and like we did like the whole track list. So I feel like it's very much, um, you know, in a, in a headspace where I, where I'm in right now in a sense, where it's just I'm kinda like I'm just having fun. I'm really just having fun and I feel like, you know, I really did make this project keeping in mind like the headspace that I'm in Again, like even like with my name like Sad Boy, like I didn't directly say who made me a sad boy, but I did speak about things that I'm experiencing right now and made sure to talk about that and embrace that. So, yeah, I'm really excited. I'm really excited. Girl culture.
Speaker 1:Yes, girl culture, that's a fire name, and so this like a woman empowerment album. Like am I putting this on after the heartbreak? Am I putting this on while I'm in love? Like what? What is the mood I?
Speaker 2:would definitely say like I think it's definitely one of those ones where it's like I mean, I think it's for girl culture in general, I feel like. I feel like it's for like every single mood you're in. I feel like there's definitely like a song I wouldn't necessarily say if you're in love, I don't know if it's for the girls that are in love, but I definitely know it's for the girls that, like, want to get their lick back, definitely want to feel good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cuz, even for me, when I made these songs, I also kept in mind how I'd be feeling, and I really did it to also make myself feel good, just to have something to put on for myself, to be like, oh, I want to feel good today, or I don't feel like I look the best, but I need to hear something. That's what I was thinking about and, again, it really is things that girls be going through. But yeah, I don't know if it's for the girls that be in love, because that wasn't what my husband said.
Speaker 1:I'm not on love time, but I'm turned up, I know Maybe.
Speaker 2:I'll talk about it at some point, but right now no.
Speaker 1:Sad boy in love. That is a chapter I can't wait for us to get to. I'm not gonna lie. Well, let's not jump to it too soon.
Speaker 2:Let's like kind of like live in this one for like a little bit.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm here for the summer, I'm ready yeah, it's just summer vibes all right, girl culture yes, 2024, that's the. That's the vibes for the summer girl culture, I like it so. Oh, but you know what? So when people say Canada is like New York I haven't been yet or Toronto, but for some reason I feel like it's giving me more of a London vibe, just because.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1:London.
Speaker 2:Right, I feel like, I feel like, even the slang.
Speaker 1:Lingo, yeah, lingo too. You guys remind me the slang is very similar to London.
Speaker 2:Have you been? Yes, I have. I love London. I love the men in London.
Speaker 1:London over Atlanta, oh, 100%. They not offering to pay for shit, though, not like. No, let me stop, let me stop.
Speaker 2:No, but you know what they are, gentlemen, they're really sweet. I feel like you know London London. I really like you know London London. I really like I don't know, I mean.
Speaker 1:Skepta, You've had a time there, I can see. Yeah, I mean what.
Speaker 2:Skepta's like my dream man.
Speaker 1:He's such an anomaly though you don't drop a quarter and meet ten Skeptas.
Speaker 2:I looked I know, but I'm going to get the Skepta, like I'm not trying to look for any other skeptic but skeptic. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like guys in London are so fly the way they dress, the way they carry themselves, it's not too showy, it's just like they in the back.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I like that. Stay in the back. Yeah, you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, it sounds like you're ready to move to London.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'd move there in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1:Would you really?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:About 100%. I'm not mad at it. Yeah, so you've been in Atlanta this far and you said that dating is hard, but I imagine more so because you're an artist than just because it's hard right.
Speaker 2:I guess that plays a role. Yeah, I also think too, too, like I don't know, I just I just think, like my experience, like dating in Toronto it's not, it doesn't feel materialistic, like it feels very much like you're bonding with the person, you're getting to know the person, like you know what I mean, like when I was dating someone in Toronto, like our dates would be like, oh, like bike riding, then like we'd like go for dinner and then, like we do, certain things, whereas, like in Atlanta, you say like everything's just very much like what they can give you.
Speaker 2:you know, like that's like my experience. It's not really like. I just don't feel like I'm bonding with the person, like I feel like I'm talking to a wall, like not funny, like you're not funny, like you're not giving me anything but money, like it's just you not funny is hilarious, like it's just like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just can't. I definitely get that, but Toronto, that's where the villain origin story of Sad Boy came about. Right, oh, the guy who broke my heart Toronto right.
Speaker 2:Oh he wasn't from Toronto. Oh, he wasn't, no where he.
Speaker 1:Oh, not Jamaican, Jamaican. I could have told you that Miami. I'm sorry, but he's Malaysian so, oh yeah, that yeah, it's Miami.
Speaker 2:The way Atlanta was during the pandemic, was Miami also Like it's like pick your poison, but you went to both of the poison cities you know, been to Miami like probably like five times, like I've been there so many times but I've never been like just to like be outside, like it's only been, like I'm literally like in the studio. So I never really got to experience Miami until, like Art Basel, like last year, I was like oh, you guys are outside.
Speaker 1:Miami's the time. I like Miami. It is lit, it's cute, but dating I don't know. Just based off the, it's a different type of temperature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean after that, no more Miami. Look at me now After that experience.
Speaker 1:But yeah, Understood, I like that. You said you're used to dates where it's like riding a bike and like just numerous different types of things, bonding-wise, yeah, but I feel like maybe that's a major city thing too.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then again it's like okay, if it's a major city thing, then like in Atlanta, like it's not, it's like very like suburbs, like what. You're just going to keep throwing money at me.
Speaker 1:You know what it is. Atlanta is big on tricking culture and that sprinkles out into the music. Yeah, but you can't trick me to like you. No, tricking as in like the niggas with the money, just win because they pay for everything.
Speaker 2:Okay, I see what you're saying. I did notice that as well.
Speaker 1:Tricking culture runs Atlanta's music. It looks like Atlanta's lifestyle. But interesting, interesting, interesting. It's funny you say that.
Speaker 2:It is interesting, but I'm getting used to it All right.
Speaker 1:Well, I know you just gave us a slide EP. You've been really going up online. I feel like every time you drop, I see like a boost and a boost. And I also just recently seen Drake like kind of fake hug you from the back. That's crazy. Talk to me about that moment. Have you all spoke?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he hit me up. He hit me up around a slide and then I went to San Antonio to see his show and I had a chance to like talk to him and he, just like you know we're from like the same city and I mean it's Drake, I think like his ear on like music and like what's like popping and, like you know, he has like a really special ear for music. And he actually sat with me and he was like expressing to me how much he loves Slade and he's like you need to continue to like making music like this and I think you should come up with like a project and like base it all around Slatt. And I was like, hmm, okay, like the whole conversation, like that really stood out to me. And then, um, I went back home and I scratched my whole project. What? Yeah, I changed the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Um, wait, based off that conversation with that conversation with Drake so I guess you could say he kind of like A&R'd the project. I just really trust him. Like, really really trust him, I really respect him. And yeah, like he really loved Slide, I was like, damn, I guess Slide really is the one.
Speaker 2:So I went back home and I redid like my whole project. Mind you, like I had a whole project ready, shot stuff for everything. Like project was done, we shot like probably like eight visuals now everything was done and I literally went back home. I was like give me a week, wow, damn so what's the new direction.
Speaker 1:What was the advice that he gave you that made you want to switch gears?
Speaker 2:Well, one thing he said to me was do you think this is the one? And I was like, hmm, he's, like I'll tell you why I think it's the one. And I was like, okay, why do you think it is the one? And I was like, hmm, he's like I'll tell you why I think it's the one. And I was like, okay, why do you think it's the one? And then, like we went back and forth and like it, both of our views on the song like aligned and um again, like he just kept expressing how much he loved the song and just in that conversation I'm damn, I remember how much fun I had writing the slide and I know the place it came from, you know.
Speaker 2:But I didn't necessarily get that feeling from the project that I had at that time, in a sense, to be happily, be like you know, this is Sabwa, this is what I, the first project I want people to hear from me. I'm like you know, and yeah, yeah, I just was like I need to get that feeling and you get that feeling. And I also think it was like it was a really big deal for me to see what it did in Toronto, especially like being from Toronto and like I feel like it's like a guys club, especially like for music. Like there's obviously like female artists in Toronto that like I respect and like they're doing a thing in the city. But like when I seen the impact that slide even had on the girls in Toronto even my sister's friends I'm like, okay, I got you guys, I'm going to keep going with this. I just felt like it was just smart with that advice, it would be crazy of me not to take it and run with it and then go left.
Speaker 1:That's fire. Talk to me about you seeing the impact in toronto like where did you? Go, and how did it feel um?
Speaker 2:you know what's so crazy? Like my best friend is jordior, so I talk about him in the song like he's a dj and he played the song and when I was in the club with him and he was playing it, I seen like everyone's reaction to it and like I just felt like the energy from behind me while he was like DJ and I was like damn, like it's only been like a day. And then like OVO 40 had reached out to me and he was like you know, like I really appreciate everything you're doing, like in the city. Um, that's tough, yeah. Like I just had so many people like from toronto like reaching out to me even again, like my sister's friends like posting it. Um, I had plush.
Speaker 1:You know it's different when you, when your siblings, friends, is reaching out because they know you.
Speaker 2:It's like for sure, like they were on snapchat like yeah, and I was like okay, um, even like having plush be a part of it, um, and like the intro, like her like when she was like speaking and she's like, if the business is true, like that was like really special. Um, I don't know, there was just so many different things. I mean, yeah, I just keep seeing it being played in the club too and that makes me really happy, yeah. So, yeah, I'm just like, I'm just really happy that, like girls fuck with it, especially Hell yeah, it's like an anthem for the girls.
Speaker 1:It really is.
Speaker 2:I think that's what makes me happy, like even when I see videos online, it's like girls from Toronto and like they'll put their location Toronto.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, it's lit. So, hometown hero, yeah, it makes me happy. I like that, I love that for you. So, um, what did you do? Because you said, all right, I got to get back in this bag so you can create the project that really fits what you want sad boy to represent? What did you do to get into that mood? Was it? Did you need to go back home and like experience that, or is it just like maybe the right producer? What would you say is the combo?
Speaker 2:so the producer that I actually worked with, um, I've known him since I was like 16 17 and he produced slide and I've always worked with him. Like, he always sends me stuff like on whatsapp. He's actually from brazil, but he lives in London and he'll just like send me beats on WhatsApp, like just like every day, always sending.
Speaker 1:This is the guy who used to write for you early on.
Speaker 2:No, he produced Slide.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So he's a producer and he always used to send me stuff and, yeah, he produced Slide. So when I went back home like any other time like I always go through like my WhatsApp messages with him, but this time I kind of had like a clear vision of what I wanted to talk about I also just felt like so inspired, like I just felt like I was on 10. As soon as I got back to Atlanta, I went in my washroom, plugged in my speaker and I sat in the sink and I just started writing, like whatever it was. I felt whatever it was that came to mind um, whatever it was, I was texting a nigga about that day or the day before.
Speaker 2:What I was arguing about, like everything was like right then and there. Because I just felt like so much was happening in that time, like with me being in San Antonio, like text messages, like calls, like so much was happening, like the conversation with Drake that I just got back and I just flooded everything in my music. Like it wasn't a situation where I was like, damn, what am I going to write about? There was so much to write about.
Speaker 1:Came natural.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Love that, all right, cool. So when are we going to be getting this project? Early May, early May.
Speaker 2:It's going to be coming. We got summer anthems. Yes, of course, summer anthems.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course.
Speaker 1:Did. Are we getting a Toronto feature at all? You know you're getting a feature.
Speaker 2:Anybody. You're getting a few features.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you that much. Yeah, you're getting a few features and I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're getting a few features and it's like features that, like I know for a fact the girls are good to fuck with. Yes. But is it Drake Is it Drake, but it's not a Drake feature. Okay.
Speaker 1:Not yet, not yet. I feel like it's inevitable. You guys have to do a song.
Speaker 2:We do have to do a song, right we?
Speaker 1:do we do, but okay. So projects coming in May slides going crazy. I'm really proud of you. I'll just say that, thank you, and then, before we wrap, we play Game Card. Questions that Need Answers.
Speaker 2:All you got to do is fill in the blank. Oh my God, I'm so bad at these games.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're just answering questions.
Speaker 2:You've been doing it for the past 30 minutes, I know, but sometimes is it like those quick ones where you have to think fast, it don't have to be, it is, it, don't have to be. Okay, you know those songs where they be. They'd be like this, this, this. I'd be like uh, uh, uh.
Speaker 1:This is not trivia. This is all about you. Okay, this is your life, all right. The older I get, the less I blink.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, the older I get, the less I think what? Yeah, think I feel like you know, like, okay, you know what I think. I just feel like before I used to like overthink every single thing, whereas now I just don't, I just do whatever it is I want to do. I like that, so like I just do it. Intuition Niggas.
Speaker 1:Niggas. You're applying that with niggas.
Speaker 2:You're saying yes, okay, okay, because I feel, like any single time I feel a way about something, my intuition be kicking ass. It has to do with niggas. Sorry, I'm just going to say words, because I told you I'm not good at this game, so I might have to explain why I'm saying it, because I know everyone's like Ebony.
Speaker 1:No, it makes sense, I'm tracking, I'm tracking. Makes sense, I'm tracking, I'm tracking. All right, I can't believe I actually blinked. When I was younger, chewed my liquids.
Speaker 2:Chewed your liquids, I still do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I need you to explain. What the fuck do you mean? Are you chewing your gums?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no liquids. So it's like if you're drinking something, you go like like it's's food.
Speaker 1:You don't just swallow it exactly and see I knew you were gonna react like why I?
Speaker 2:don't know why I'm like that. I still do it. Now. It's like I'm really enjoying something, like I'll be chewing my liquids. Okay, don't worry, though. Like if I'm on a date, I I don't do it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know anymore. Have you tried to not do it?
Speaker 2:I purposely like not think about it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna try to prevent myself.
Speaker 2:Does it make it taste different? No right, I don't notice, I do it.
Speaker 1:Interesting, okay, did someone pointed out. Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to be on a date.
Speaker 1:Same Got to keep honest people around you. Sometimes I look back at my life and blink Laugh.
Speaker 2:Why Just laugh at the fact that, like, certain things happened, um, I don't know, I just think. I think it's like a coping thing for me to just like laugh. You know what I mean? Um, yeah, because I don't want to say like, yeah, I just look back and laugh because I'm like, damn, that really happened, like even when, I think about like me, like getting bullied.
Speaker 2:That was like such a bad time for me, like. But when I think back and like actually look at it, I was like I laugh in a sense because it's like I haven't changed, like I still, I'm still dressed that way, I still act that way now. So it's just like. And those same people are like you know, are the ones that like would DM me, or it's just like oh my god, I love what you have on. So the ones that like would DM me, or it's just like, oh my God, I love what you have on. So I think it just like makes me laugh in a sense, where it's like Losers. It felt like the end of the world to me, yeah, but now it's just like. At least I didn't change myself, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's actually really whack. I heard you talking about being bullied as a kid on a different interview that you did and I was like, wow, I wonder why they bullied you for your style.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just was. I was into like different things and again, like I was like deep on Tumblr, so like I just used to, like you know, I would get like a Picasso like jacket and they'd be like, why are you wearing that? Or, like you know, my hair was really long. Like they tried cutting my hair, like it was just like small things, it was just like kids, just like being mean. Yeah, and now they want your autograph.
Speaker 1:and then it's like Good little full circle moment, right? Yeah, from time to time it's good to do blank.
Speaker 2:From time to time it's good to do. I would say it's good to give yourself some space from people. I would say that that's a good one. Yeah, what do you sign, guess some space from people, I would say that that's a good one. Yeah, what's your son guess?
Speaker 1:I don't know if you're good at guessing um, I would say, because you said you like your space. Honestly I would say leo, because I'm a leo and I'd be feeling like that I'm a sag sag okay, fire sign okay.
Speaker 2:Because I feel like I have moments where it's like I'm really like, oh my God, let's do this, let's do this, and then I have like the next day I'll be like out of nowhere Social battery is out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out of nowhere Understood my social battery be dying too. Hell midday I'd be like all right, yeah, okay, I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked. Let me preference this with. I personally enjoy onstage moments like silly things that you might have fell or something. Wait, what was it again?
Speaker 2:I made a complete fool of myself when I blinked, I don't know, because I feel like there's so much. I feel like right now, okay, I feel like the first thing, okay, the first thing that pops in my mind. I made a fool of myself when I was like creeping this nigga the other day and like I had all my friends in the car and I just kept ducking, ducking, ducking, ducking and they were like walking around. I don't want to say too much because it's too hot right now, but I literally was outside creeping on this nigga for like four hours watching this nigga. Why? For no reason. I was literally shooting and I was like y'all bored, everyone's like yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like let's go stalk this nigga. And they're like, okay, and we stalked him, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1:You give him crazy. You think so. You give giving crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean my mom said that too. My mom's like you can't just stalk someone just because you're doing it, Like you have to have a reason. I'm like, well, there wasn't a reason, I just want to see what he really be doing.
Speaker 1:So he's not fucking up, but you still wanted to stalk him anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, like I was paying attention to everything, could be calling no you're crazy, you're crazy.
Speaker 1:I think it's just passion okay, okay, respect, respect passionate is. But you said sad, right, you hear this Crazy, sad, sad, crazy.
Speaker 2:I know, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Alright, the last question is my personality trait is blank.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm really easygoing. I feel like I'm a really chill person. I feel like I just go with the wind. I'm big on energy, I can tell if someone walks in. I'm like I'm not going to get along with this person, like I'm not okay with, like certain things, but I don't know. Like, if you like come to me and you're like I think like this is this, I'll be like okay, okay, okay. Like I'm just very like Nonchalant about. Like I feel like I'm really easygoing. Like I don't even when it comes to food, what you want to eat today, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1:Like I'm not one that's like I need to eat this because this is what I want, like I'm just easygoing pretty chill. Yeah, I like it all, right. Well, I'm looking forward to this new music that's dropping. Thank you, um. Shout out to your grandma. Everybody know where they can follow and tap in if they don't already.
Speaker 2:You can follow me on Instagram at sadboi S-A-D-B-O-I.
Speaker 1:Tune in, guys, slide out now Until next time.