Chris Patrick is definitely one of them ones to be on the look out for. If you're a fan of rap and you have a moment make sure you check out his new project The Calm. I really had a great time getting to know Chris, understanding his why for music and the creative process behind his latest project.
We got to the bottom of his spicy J Cole bar on the album (side note this was recorded prior to the big 3 battle between Drake, Cole, and Kendrick). As well as the grind behind the art and the not so glamorous side of the music business - the business!
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Chris Patrick is definitely one of them ones to be on the look out for. If you're a fan of rap and you have a moment make sure you check out his new project The Calm. I really had a great time getting to know Chris, understanding his why for music and the creative process behind his latest project.
We got to the bottom of his spicy J Cole bar on the album (side note this was recorded prior to the big 3 battle between Drake, Cole, and Kendrick). As well as the grind behind the art and the not so glamorous side of the music business - the business!
Talk Soon! ✌🏾
Stay connected! Follow @wnttlk on all platforms.
You gotta know how to lie. To tell the truth and that's something that that's a word In order to be able to tell the truth reflectively, you gotta know how to lie. I'm crazy like if you understand People don't fuck with rappers, man.
Speaker 2:They just be putting words together, making that shit sound good. Then you run it back like what the hell you just said.
Speaker 1:Yo, I'm not gonna lie. The easiest order to tell the truth you gotta be a good liar. That's it easy shit.
Speaker 2:Now that you broke down the science.
Speaker 1:I promise you everything you say gonna sound prophetic as hell. I Mean I could experience the highs, because I don't seen the lowest lows. And oh, everybody like, oh, like.
Speaker 2:I love this nigga. And then everybody be like oh my God, like I love this nigga. That's a basic recipe too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, just take two contradictions you will contradict your way into money, contradict your way into relationships, contradict your way into goddamn love.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you Not that shit works.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, all right, I'm a soft person because I grew up in rough conditions. You see what I'm saying? Do you see what I'm saying because I grew up in rough conditions? You see what I'm saying? Do you see what I'm saying? Like, just try that more and watch how everybody around you gonna be like yo, nala, be talking that shit Like damn, what's going on? Everybody. It's Chris Patrick Just dropped a project called the Calm. What's up, nala? We need to talk what's going on, guys.
Speaker 2:Alice Simone here with another episode. We need to talk, and today I got a very special guest from Jersey. We got Chris Patrick in the building.
Speaker 1:How are you? I'm doing very well. We got to be specific North Jersey, to be specific.
Speaker 2:You really don't gotta be specific. Please don't do this.
Speaker 1:I mean we have to, though, because, like it's important that people understand which side of Jersey I came from. Why? Because North Jersey and South Jersey are different. South Jersey was influenced a little bit more by Philly we still fuck with now, but North Jersey was kind of his own thing and we do have traces of like Brooklyn I. We kind of intermingle with each other. You know, I'm saying like South Jersey, literally like Philly, little brother, I swear to God, that's really how it was in Central Jersey don't really exist. I went to school in Central Jersey, but it probably exists for this Now y'all just don't exist.
Speaker 1:It's the culture, though like that's the thing you gotta understand, like it's North Jersey Central and then what is Trenton and what's Camden? So, like Camden I would say is definitely South Jersey. Trenton kind of falls a little bit closer to South in the middle, but again I went to school out there so it would kind of be central to me After you start passing like Rutgers you start leaving out of North.
Speaker 2:I can't with how biased Jersey is.
Speaker 1:It's not biased, it's the rules, it's the culture Says who. When you go to Atlanta, you gotta respect the zones, right, like everybody got their own zone that they from. So it's damn near the same shit in Jersey. You know what I'm?
Speaker 2:saying so, respect the culture. So you are from North.
Speaker 1:Jersey, jersey, yeah, we love all Jersey but I'm specifically from. East.
Speaker 2:A lot of greats come out of East Orange.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I respect it. Fine, fine, fine. I tried to have like a break, the ice moment, and I'm like, yeah, he's a living Jersey. He's like, oh wait, you're like from the other side.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh God, and granted, too, there are some amazing people that come from South Jersey, like my dog, soulchild. She's from there, like she's an amazing rapper from Like. You made me like South Jersey again, but like you know, now you made me like South Jersey again. I love all jokes and shit, Like I really do love all Jersey.
Speaker 1:But there's amazing people coming from both sides. However, for a little bit of time we were a little divided and I feel like now, especially with music, you find more of that. All meeting at the middle.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Pun intended.
Speaker 2:I love that. That's good, absolutely. So before we get into your new project, let's just do some backstory to who Chris Patrick is, how long you've been rapping, we know where you're from, but let's talk about your influences.
Speaker 1:Okay, shit, where should I start what you want me to talk about?
Speaker 2:Shit Influences, because Jersey does have a lot of different cultures and ethnicities, especially North Jersey.
Speaker 1:Facts Melting pot for real. You know, I feel like growing up For me Like obviously Lauryn Hill was something that they explained in the crib A lot of times. I didn't start listening to rap Until I was like Maybe like 10, 12 years old Type shit Like my pops really wanted me?
Speaker 2:Is that the?
Speaker 1:50 Cent era. Yeah, I was. You know. I was really introduced To Wayne and Cole Like it was.
Speaker 1:Wayne. I had a homie Back in like Fifth raving about Lil Wayne and he had this iPod that had, you know, like this crack and burn for all the takes and we was just playing them shits and like after care and shit and that's what it started like, sparking my whole idea of like yo, rap is crazy, like this is really some shit, cuz I grew up on like the Mary J Blige's, the SWV's, earth, wind and Fire, all that shit. You know I'm saying that's what my household was, yeah, and then when I get introduced to Wayne, I'm listening to Wayne, I'm listening to Cole. Now I'm listening to Drake.
Speaker 1:I'm walking into the crib talking about 50 Cent, got way more than just X, y and Z. Like pop's looking at me like where the hell you get all this? Then I, you know, I did like a week with my uncle one time and he was playing me Mad 50 Cent and I don't think I ever told my pops this. But he was like my uncle. He played some of the unedited shit, like play some of the unedited shit, like when it was Cousin. He's like yo don't trip. I know your dad let you listen to this and I'm thinking he ain't never let me listen to this shit, but you was like, yeah, all right, but that really impacted me in moving forward.
Speaker 1:I just fell in love with rap around that time. You know what I'm saying? I think what was it? Cylon's 30 might have came around around that time and they was talking to me and I'm like in the sixth, seventh grade relating to this shit, like I ain't had no kid on the way, but Lost Ones just hit me in a way that made me realize, yo, there's so much more to R&B.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dang, that's dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a good story. I love that. Cole's obviously one of my favorites, but I love that he had such an impact on you too, 50, cole and Wayne.
Speaker 1:Yeah, drake too. And Drake, I thought Drake was the anomaly at the time because like, uh, my homie was calling him because he was singing and stuff like that. He was like a prodigy of Wayne. He was introduced as a prodigy of Wayne and he was singing. But I had always found it interesting. Like yo, he came out with best I ever had. Like this is singing, but this is good raps too. Yeah, and Because, again, I'm listening to Cole, I'm listening to Wayne, I'm listening to 50-50, having inflections of the melodies and stuff, but Drake over here trying to sing and shit, that started sparking some shit in my mind too. It's like, okay, there's a world where rap and R&B aren't exclusive, they can exist together.
Speaker 2:And I feel like I started to find a lot of my identity in that. You know, it's funny because I didn't even realize that rap existed as his own thing and R&B existed as his own thing, and until, like, I talked to older people, yeah, there was plenty of niggas who was trying to sing on the racks. Yeah, but for us it's like that is the norm.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:For me out of blog era, though I thought Wale was the anomaly. Oh, man, Drake was in there but Wale was like oh, it was probably regional too for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:I mean, the nigga was a poet, Nigga was just.
Speaker 1:It took me a little while longer to get onto Wale but when I finally had got it like, started to dive into discography, I realized even he had a very elite pen that folks just slept on. We had did a my homie Dende. He had did an R&B festival maybe two years ago and I had went with him and performed. Wale was on the bill Bruh, I didn. He hits that nigga. He got hits. Hits after hit after hit after hit.
Speaker 2:He another one like Big.
Speaker 1:Sean too, hits after hit after hit.
Speaker 2:Different areas too he can take you to the club with no hands, but then he can make you feel in love with Matt Ciccone If there was anybody who spoke to the women.
Speaker 1:he did it effortlessly. Yeah, it was almost like that was his mission. Shout out to rapper and him and Cole For sure, yeah, it's crazy how like women came to like Cole and stuff too, like Workout was one of those moments that really like opened it up for him and he ain't really see I wouldn't say he specifically saw that, but I know the world was looking at him and they was like what is this? But again, that's one of the moments for me where I thought, yo, oh, my God, it was over.
Speaker 1:That crooked smile ladies was loving it. I know Swear to God.
Speaker 2:Damn. Are we suckers? I feel like we're suckers for the Lady Records.
Speaker 1:We are Yo. The Lady Records are the ones that open up the world to you.
Speaker 2:Swear to.
Speaker 1:God bro, I've seen that shit happen in real time.
Speaker 2:Hmm, so are you going to be giving us some Lady Records. I really like hearing your thought process and where you're at in the world.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I do appreciate that. I got a bunch of Lady records, believe it or not. I had this one song on the last project called Oakland Interlude. It was going very, very crazy. Had a good time with that. On this project we got a song called LA Girls and there's another one called Atlanta Interlude.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 1:LA.
Speaker 2:Girls, that's my notes now.
Speaker 1:Holy shit, I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 2:No, don't be All right. Well, let's start with numb, because you sampled Alex Vaughn. So I was like oh, we're off to a great start. I love this sample what made you want to do a V record.
Speaker 1:Um, you know like.
Speaker 2:I've been a producer I did not, I did not.
Speaker 1:My boy, my home, but the nigga name is Boyanel. He didn't want to produce that joint. He went very, very crazy on that song specifically. I heard it and it clicked in me very, very quickly. I'm a big fan of Alex Vaughn. That's Obeah's record. I've driven in the car late nights bumping that hoe, just like damn.
Speaker 2:In your bag, yeah, in my bag.
Speaker 1:I'm a late night driver. You know what I'm saying. So that's definitely a nice joint to play on. Like Alice Vaughn, I love you If you see this, and I love her entire project. I think Summer Walker got a remix too and that shit just made me so happy because I love Summer as well. But I felt like the way the sample was flipped and the drums just Alex was really honest on so Be it. So I felt like it was important for me to be really honest on them. I was in a little situation before with an indie label and shit, and I got out of that shit and I felt like there was a lot of time spent sitting around and I feel like that record specifically captures so many different moments that I went through from 2022 to the early part of 2023, type shit A process.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How do you stay, I guess, motivated when it comes to dealing with because dealing with the business part, I guess, of the art?
Speaker 1:You know what's funny?
Speaker 1:I feel like going through some of the shit I went through helped me become more business savvy.
Speaker 1:I would be a liar if I told you, oh yeah, I just kept my head on straight and just said, ah, there's always a light at the end of the tunnel, like nah, I was in a space where, like, I wasn't even sure if I was gonna be able to keep making music type shit. So like, for me, the biggest thing I did in that moment of time was just try to learn as much as I could, try to figure out where we were going, right, where I feel like, through the entirety of last year from, you know, talking with the guys, even like Reaching out to just talk to other people for like advice, like shout out, barry and Zeke and niggas really looked out and showed a lot of love in terms of just helping us build out a lot of cool shit. So, like, from all those conversations we was having, I feel like it helped propel us into a better space. Obviously we still working out of some shit, but like it's a lot better than it was a year ago.
Speaker 2:I love that Absolutely and I love that it's Barry and Z those my dogs, bro, good people.
Speaker 1:I be calling Uncle Barry because he be ranting, but he be right he be ranting.
Speaker 2:He be right, he be ranting, for sure he be ranting. It be pissing me off. I get it, leave me alone, but he'll still keep ranting.
Speaker 1:Yo, barry, carl, you're going to be like let me tell you something, and it'd be a smooth hour conversation and it'd be right, though, like he'd be on his shit. But it'd be right, though, for real.
Speaker 2:No, he's smart. And I really wish his tweet should really be like a more updated class of like how to work in the music industry. I be class of like how to work in the music industry. I'll be telling him. He an influencer. He don't want to hear me but my nigga doing att, as you feel me, talk about it, but um you know, I want to say so I know you, you spent time in atlanta, you spent time in la.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in spending and I'm gonna get back to chicago I'm sorry in chic, but in spending time with like those different cities, like where did you grow the most? And in different aspects, because I feel like with Atlanta you can learn a lot business-wise, but then, like LA, you can kind of grow more, like on an artist's tip.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy? I actually learned the most in the city of Nashville.
Speaker 2:I lived in the city of Nashville for an entire year and I would travel to uh, I would drive to Atlanta.
Speaker 1:I need to explain how and when you moved to each of these cities. What the fuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I, I, uh, I don't. I've never like so. I've really lived in Nashville for a whole year, like last year. That was the craziest trials and tribulations. I shit um why why? We was doing some shit with the indie label, so we was out there To take shit, but Atlanta.
Speaker 1:I spent a lot of time there Just kicking with some of the homies Like Marco Plus, deontay Suave, ben Riley those are my dogs. La Did a lot of work out there, my homies like Gary Bitty, a lot of them Niggas out there, and in Chicago my engineer, whole class of studios Like I'll be there, that's where I get all my projects done and shit like that. But I feel like each place specifically taught me a lot. You know what I'm saying Like from a musical standpoint. I think I learned the most musically from Chicago Because like I was in a studio with them like all the time, just learning, hearing different things and shit like that, like craziness.
Speaker 1:But LA, you know, it just showed me how polished everybody was and that kind of like made me think to myself like okay, we got to build the branding and the marketing. And then Atlanta, them motherfuckers just work like dogs and like I always had that dog in me. But like when you go around other dogs it really just pushes you. So like that's been my favorite thing about each of the cities, like they just teach you a different thing. Nashville, though I had to ruminate with them thoughts, I had to think about all this shit I'm spending a whole year not really dropping music. I'm dropping features. I dropped two songs. I'm watching all my peers go crazy. I had to combat a lot of things Like I had to look at jealousy within myself, insecurity within myself. I had to just like find peace with who Chris Patrick was and I feel like that helped build a lot of confidence for me. Like I'm literally Miz Colin Noah Austin Dende in Nashville just every day talking, building this shit out.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying At one point, me and Miz living in the same crib, type shit, and we there for the last six months in Nashville every day just scheming, talking about everything, and I feel like those moments were so important to bring us to now, like I got confidence out the roof. Now Not like on no cocky shit, but I'm really confident in just what we've built to this point because we done been through the fire.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Damn, that's beautiful actually I try, I try. That really is that's beautiful Salute to you guys. It's good that you're not alone in this, because this shit is not easy At all.
Speaker 1:People think it's an easy journey, but like artistry is hard bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people think this shit is cute. You just show up like no, you really so.
Speaker 1:But everything too, like what you're doing, what I'm doing, what Matt's doing. It's all a journey, it's all a process that comes with highs and lows. Nobody talks about the lows as much as we talk about the highs. But I've realized over, like just talking with a lot of the rap homies, like we all going through the same shit together Everybody damn near experiencing it and we do a real good job of hiding it.
Speaker 1:But I feel like the progress comes when we all speak, because we learn from each other. You know what I'm saying. Just calling people up and asking for advice helps out with everything.
Speaker 2:I like that. Well, I'm going to skip to the last record on the project the Calm Only, because I feel like the things you talked about on there are kind of similar to your time in Nashville, but the line about Instagram therapy, narcissism and missing people, I was like damn this is.
Speaker 1:You hit all the buzzwords.
Speaker 2:This you was really going through a period. Was this like? Were you writing this when you were in Nashville?
Speaker 1:No, I actually wrote it when I when I came back to Jersey, but it was me reflecting on all the time that I had spent there, cause, like I'm like, I feel like one of my just being on some transparency. I feel like one of the things that might have held me back was that I always try to like be there for people. It's not a bad thing, but I think I've poured so much from a pot to the point where I didn't have much to pour anymore and it was hard to progress as a person.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is unfortunately, you know, I feel like I went through a lot not realizing that and I feel like, through my selfishness and understanding that maybe I did have some narcissistic tendencies, like I think that helped me become a better person. I feel like when you start to conquer it Now no cap, though. If you look at all the shit that's like the flaws and the things that we don't want to address about ourselves and we bring it to all the good shit, I feel like we build like a really good human being. You know what I'm saying, like if I know I can't actually get it. That's true. I want this music shit bad more than anything, and it's to the point where it's unfortunate how sometimes I've lost relationships because of that. But I've also accepted that this the path I chose for myself. I can't half-ass into it. If I'm going to make that run and attempt to be a star, I got to accept everything that comes with that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Say yes to everything that aligns and no to everything that doesn't. And it's a lot of, it's a lot of, it's a lot of tears, a lot of tears. Bro, like I really believe that love in itself is allowing yourself to let go of the things and the people who may not serve what you're doing, not out of the fact that, like, oh, it don't work for me, but it's to be kind to them, because if I can't be there for you and you expect me to be, you're going to be disappointed in me, and if I'm in my work mode, I can't even be there for you. You know what I'm saying. So it's like I had to make hard decisions to just lock in on myself. So I feel like that's what the record really, uh this is good stuff, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like good stuff.
Speaker 1:I feel like that last record really sums it up. Like, from all the shit I went through, I think what I ultimately came to was just I have to forgive myself for those like I have to forgive myself not for like any mistakes I made per se, but just forgive myself for not realizing who I was very long ago and almost, almost asking myself to forgive, like asking others to forgive me for who I was.
Speaker 1:I don't got no harsh I, I don't got no problems with nobody but like I just know that my desire to be great is so overwhelming that, like it'll consume everybody around me if I don't draw the proper boundaries For real, hey, that's some real nigga shit right there, I try, I like that, I try.
Speaker 2:Oh, something else you mentioned was that. Oh you, what's the-.
Speaker 1:The colon.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it seems like you want to talk about that.
Speaker 1:You want to talk about that.
Speaker 2:You want to talk?
Speaker 1:about that we can. A lot of people bring up the cold line, but figure out what you think about it. We can talk about the cold line if you want, okay, hold on.
Speaker 2:Wait, what the hell was I talking about? It was oh, you were just saying how, when you were in Nashville, that you pretty much took the year off. Mine is like the features and stuff that you did. But in doing that you're seeing people. It feels like passing you by, but it's not passing you by. But I guess, like what did you do to kind of reassure yourself like you're in your alignment? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:We just kept working on this project. I ain't gonna lie, once Miz moved into my crib, like I think around June or something like that June, july, once Miz moved into the crib, we had a project. But I just felt like, personally, we had both decided the project just wasn't not strong enough because of the music, but it wasn't strong enough because of the narrative. And in that moment I don't know what happened, I don't know if we was talking or somebody called me. It might have, like my homie or my mama call me, and it might have been something along the lines like you just got weathered a storm and that shit just stuck with me.
Speaker 1:I was like damn, like I feel you because we really in it right now. My pops, my pops, my pops kept telling me like yo, you in it right now and you might not be able to see that you're working through it, but as soon as you get out of this or start to make headway on it, you'll be able to see everything more clearly. So I feel like from that moment I started to like we started to literally put together the idea of like weathering the storm and this calm. I feel like it was a long year we ain't dropped in two years. But, like the calm, I feel like covers a lot of what happened at the end of 2022 all the way up to like the early 2023 type shit yeah, a process I had to live with, that shit yeah.
Speaker 2:I will say Take Time For Myself.
Speaker 1:I love that song.
Speaker 2:Is that your favorite one on the project?
Speaker 1:That's one of my. I got some really good verses on there. I got some other favorite songs.
Speaker 2:That's my favorite one on the project Sheesh.
Speaker 1:But what's?
Speaker 2:yours, I'm curious.
Speaker 1:Actually, my favorite might be the Calm. That's my favorite verse. The Calm verse is so crazy, it's just so nice.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think that's the best record on there, as in like um bar skill and um, what's the other word? I'm looking for Content.
Speaker 1:For sure.
Speaker 2:I like music, for either like I can relate or it's admirable, you know what I'm saying. So I think that one covers that.
Speaker 1:So when I call myself a narcissist, you was like I felt that no, I didn't. I was like uh that no, I didn't, I was like uh-uh. I had to make sure.
Speaker 2:Let's unpack this. And he just admits to being a narcissist.
Speaker 1:This is crazy. I had to. I had to look at myself and was like, okay, maybe I can work on this.
Speaker 2:But even the fact that you were willing to admit real self-aware of myself.
Speaker 1:I don't have a problem like throwing things at myself because I feel like the more honest I am with myself, the easier it is for me to grow. If I like run away from some shit, it's not gonna really help me, but I gotta be honest with myself, that's real shit.
Speaker 2:More people need to be honest with themselves too. Understand your place in reality, um, but I like take time for myself. One because of the message, but two, I just love the flow on there. Thank you. What inspired that record?
Speaker 1:I mean life, for sure.
Speaker 2:He said it's all real shit. It's all real shit you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:We was going through some issues and shit that we had to work through. You know what I'm saying. I think I was driving away from my, my dj uh dojo he martial artist, kev brown, that's my dog, um, and I was just on the road and I heard the beat and I just started. I used to want to save the world and I realized saving the world don't do much for a nigga and I had it as a voice memo literally in my phone and I was just like I'm gonna come back to this shit and then from that I feel like I just sat down.
Speaker 1:Like maybe a couple days later I sat down and the shit just started flowing, started telling a story about just like a lot of stuff I had to do, because, again, I told you like I feel like I overextended my hand and I feel like I hurt more people overextending my hand when I didn't have much to give because I had to pull back and it's like you can't over promise and not deliver and that's why I feel like I fell short. So I feel like that Take a result of a lot of the shit you ain't handle from over promising on people. You know what I'm saying, like all of it wasn't my control, but I try my best on these records to just focus on me. You know what I'm saying I like it.
Speaker 2:What are you doing now to take time for yourself?
Speaker 1:uh, reading books, you know what I'm saying, so I'm already not giving a. That's my oh good, yeah, definitely do that. Uh, I gotta start this will smith book, low-key, nice, that's been helping me a lot. But watching a lot of movies, uh, I actually. I actually went two months without playing video games. I've just been working on music, so I just got back into that playing with my brother and shit like that, because I ain't seen him in a long time.
Speaker 2:Fire so.
Speaker 1:I just been doing that, but I don't have a problem saying, hey, I can't go out, or I got to chill, because I realize more than anything, just having time to myself is more important.
Speaker 2:Man, you know what? I'm saying Hit that on the head, not take time for yourself. If something that you said right before that, all right, fuck it, it's leaving. Huh.
Speaker 1:The Cole shit.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:What was it? I thought me and Cole was the moment that made this shit worth it for all of the bad. But I met him and felt fucking empty and realized that happiness ain't really last. I'm starting to question what really matters. That was such a crazy line for me because, like again, I was down bad. We in Nashville, the homie, marco Plus, literally called us and was like yo, come to the store. I'm like what you mean? I'm in Nashville. He like nigga, I don't care, come to A.
Speaker 1:A lot of shit was happening in A and I ended up pulling up over Tree Sounds and shit and there was like oh shit, yeah, I'm like oh shit, this is crazy. I had ran into a lot of Dreamville folk like Jig Thug, kyle School is Hell. I had met Boss for the first time, I believe my other homie, ron Gilmore. He played piano for Cole. He had told me Sly too, so I was over there with him and shit like that that night. Like I met cole that day. And it's crazy for me because, as good of a feeling as that was, I feel like there were so many other things around me in my life going on that it kind of like made me feel like, okay, this is the moment you always waited for. But what did it actually change for you? In a sense, and it was a nice milestone, like I met cole on some cool yeah but it was like there's so many more things going on, like I I'm still figuring out my shit.
Speaker 1:I gotta figure out life. I'm going through a lot of just relationship shit with people I really like Fuck with and shit. One of my homies. I got arrested that exact same day and we didn't know until the next day. Damn, and we were supposed to link him that night. So weird the way it all happens. So like for me. When I look back on that shit again, I feel like when I touch on a narcissist it's like damn. All of this love and this vibe that I put into pursuing the goal for myself is amazing. But it comes with a lot too.
Speaker 1:You sacrifice a lot yeah and uh, that's just some shit that still runs in my mind to this day yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like it's crazy, it ain't got nothing to do with cole. Cole didn't do nothing to me. Yeah, yeah, but like I just think in that moment, like damn, I met Cole, but it didn't feel the way I wanted it to feel, or the way I thought it would, how you thought it would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I realized that I had that moment too. I wouldn't even say it was with Cole in particular, but I think once you get in the business and you start meeting the people that you once looked up to, you just realize, oh, I could do this shit. Honestly, if there's anything it taught me, it just taught me. Oh, I could do this shit.
Speaker 1:We all people, we all people who have achieved a lot of different things. The man that's in front of you that you're looking at like okay, this is the guy or the woman that you're looking at like they failed just as many times as we did type shit like it's all the same shit, like putting yourself first.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you saying and I think we have to stop like putting that I know, like that's like the buzzword right now and twitter like he's a narcissist, but it's like putting yourself first is not narcissism, it's just smart in a in this climate.
Speaker 1:It's funny because I feel like, depending on how, like a lot of us grew up, not everybody sees that because, like you know, some people come from the space where it takes a village. And it's not that it doesn't take a village, it does indeed. But at some point you do have to make that decision on how far you want to go with this. And there was something just screaming out in me I got to either make this jump or I just can't. And it was unfortunate, but I had to make the jump.
Speaker 2:It will take a village you to death. Okay, let's get into. Oh my God, you, I like you, good, I like you. Songs for women. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you, you did, you did, you did.
Speaker 1:Come on.
Speaker 2:Swag. You did say that.
Speaker 1:I told you, I told you, come on you did say that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like the message on you.
Speaker 1:Talk to me about who, well, you what inspired it? Or you seem disappointed to even say it like damn, like all right, I mean as long as called you la girls. Um, who inspired?
Speaker 2:it la girls, but they're not like native, they're not native la women.
Speaker 1:They women who grew up elsewhere and they they live in la, so they like participate. Like uh grew up in detroit, grew up in new jersey, but she's moving through it, like you know I'm a transplant too.
Speaker 2:I get it. You feel me so like, like you know.
Speaker 1:I'm a transplant too, I get it, you feel me so like I just, you know, dealing with some really dope people. But again, that was another introspective moment too, because I had to also realize, okay, I'm dealing with these people or I'm falling in love with everybody.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's the Pisces in me, I don't know it's all good.
Speaker 1:I'm working on myself, though, and I feel like I'm way better than that.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, I'm entertained, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm entertained either way.
Speaker 1:You know, I just met some people and they really had me, you know, really inspired, like I don't know how it go for everybody else, but sometimes you get outside da-da-da-da how it go for everybody else, but sometimes you get outside that are alive. Yeah, fuck with somebody it's like damn head over heels for this person, but I don't even really know this person, you don't really know me like that. We gotta get to know each other type. So it's like kind of trying to like figure that all out. Essentially, uh, I don't know if I should. I would say you don't gotta say who. No, I'm not saying who it is, but I will say one of the one of the one of the people I talk about on LA Girls is direct correlation that Atlanta and Hulu, those shits are hand-in-hand essentially, so that's cool shit.
Speaker 2:I got to go back and listen to that.
Speaker 1:I look like this Sometimes just dealing with people. It shows you a lot about yourself. You learn a lot, that's true, and I feel like from one of them experiences on LA Girls, the experience on Atlanta and Hulu just understanding sometimes you hurt people and it's okay. Hurt people and it's okay and like just because we hurt people, it don't mean that we necessarily aren't capable of receiving love. Like that was some shit. I really learned from shorty, so like that was important damn that's deep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then you've been going through some life fucking lessons with this tape. I'm not gonna lie you're calm out now, yo, but you're remaining calm, so that that's good absolutely all right, let's. Let's play this game. It's called questions that need. All you have to do is fill in the blank.
Speaker 1:Oh shit Okay.
Speaker 2:It's not, it's lighthearted. The older I get, the less I blink.
Speaker 1:The older I get, the less I get distracted.
Speaker 2:Look at his Pisces ass growing up. Yes. We love that All right. You would never believe me if I told you right. You would never believe me if.
Speaker 1:I told you blank. You would never believe me if I told you that I opened up for Travis Scott when Birds in the Trap Seeming Night Drop.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, swear to God. Back in 2017, he came to my college at the time and I had won some competition at my college at the time and I got a chance to open up for Travis. That's crazy. That was like my Second, third performance ever. So I was just like what the fuck? And at that point I kind of decided Like, oh, I'm gonna do this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm in, yeah, hey, once you get those moments, that's like God's.
Speaker 1:Confirmation, letting you know Like, yeah, keep going. I was like I know this is the time To do this shit.
Speaker 2:That's tough. Um, alright, I can't. Were you always into music? Did you play sports? Was you bad? Did you get kicked out of school?
Speaker 1:I can't believe I. What did I do when I was younger that I just can't believe I did? I don't know. I think I was cool with all the shit I did. I ain't really I don't got nothing wrong with it. You're a narcissist. I was cool with all the shit I did. I don't think I can't believe I did nothing. I played ding dong ditch on my house before that was dumb On your own house. Yeah, my dad beat my ass. He whooped my ass, bro. Oh my God, I was a little kid too. My homies was doing it, so I was like, oh, let me do this shit. I did that shit one time.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if he remembered that I know so little about blank.
Speaker 2:I'm a little embarrassed that I know so little about.
Speaker 1:What am I embarrassed that I know so little about?
Speaker 2:Hmm.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think I know what I know about what I know. Alright, if you hit me with some shit, I'll be like, okay, cool, I don't. I don't know about that, but know. All right, if you hit me with some shit, I'll be like, okay, cool, I don't. I don't know about that, but uh.
Speaker 2:Wait, I want to mean that I know what I know, about what I know.
Speaker 1:You feel me Like. I know what I know about what I know Like.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, no, that was funny. Um, okay, I look back at my life and blank.
Speaker 1:And cringe Mm, you feel me. I was just doing some silly shit Like it don't got nothing to do with nobody else but myself. Like I know for a fact, I was doing some lame ass shit, but that's all about growing up, type shit. You know what I'm saying? That's true, I just was like okay, I cringe, personality trait is damn what the fuck is a personality trait?
Speaker 2:Oh my God that explains. Yeah, that should explain it actually.
Speaker 1:Determination of personality trait? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Is what determination? Determination, understanding, caring, kind understanding what's the personality trait for him.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying? I feel like calm, calm. You see what I'm saying? I feel like calm, calm. Yeah, oh god, that's good, that's good promo, that's good promo.
Speaker 2:I like that the calm out now that was a good promo. Look, the calm is out now. We got Chris Patrick in the building. Shout out to Graham. Let everybody know where they can follow you, you can find me ex Chris Patrick on the gram.
Speaker 1:Ex Chris Patrick on Twitter. Ex Chris Patrick on Twitter. Ask Chris Patrick on TikTok. My name's actually Chris Patrick. Shout out. My mama Shout out. My dad Shout out CXI Shout out. All the homies Shout out. Nyla, she was in South Jersey, but it's still shout out her.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, until next time, guys, Ah.