WNTTLK (We Need To Talk)

Jordan Discusses "Straight No Chase," Influences from Missy Elliott to Lauryn Hill, Emotional Journey of Debut Project, & Shout-Out to Grandma!

Nyla Symone

What happens when a rising star in hip-hop channels the likes of Missy Elliott, Lauryn Hill, and André 3000 to create her debut project? This episode features an intimate conversation with Jordan, the talented female MC behind "Straight No Chase." Jordan lays bare the emotional journey of releasing a new project, detailing the meticulous process of perfecting her tracks, and the mix of anxiety and excitement she feels about audience reactions. We get up close and personal with her influences and her dedication to authenticity, as she shares how her strong penmanship and unique perspectives carve a distinct space for her in the industry.

Ever wondered how diverse musical influences shape an artist's sound? Jordan's innovative approach to vocal and melodic performances draws from an eclectic mix of genres, including Caribbean reggae and alt rock. Partnering with producer Fredro, Jordan channels her personal and professional struggles into her songwriting, creating tracks that resonate deeply with listeners. "Straight No Chase" and "Picture Perfect" are spotlighted for their powerful impact, showcasing Jordan's ability to transform raw emotion into compelling music.

Through this episode, you'll witness Jordan's artistic evolution and the significance behind featuring previously released tracks like "Flo" on her debut EP. We draw on hip-hop icons like Queen Latifah and Lauryn Hill to underscore themes of self-respect, boundaries, and personal growth. Jordan, aka "She's Just Different," wraps up by expressing her excitement about her new project, offering a heartfelt shout-out to her grandma, and letting listeners know where to find her on social media and streaming platforms. An inspiring conversation that promises to connect with you on a deeper level, tune in for a memorable and authentic experience.

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Speaker 1:

Were you tricking? It sounds like you was tricking in a relationship. That was my takeaway. I'm like and how was she tricking? I'm screaming.

Speaker 2:

Like what I'm so screaming right now. How old are you to be tricking what is going on? You know it's levels to tricking. Like you know, like I was young, so it wasn't like I was really tricking for real, but like it's like you got a little five on the pump.

Speaker 2:

Or, oh wait, you want to get the breakfast sandwich, say the bacon, egg and cheese today. Oh, I'm coming with you to Arizona. Like that's tricking. Like if you're where I'm from, if that's not happening for you, that's you a trick. Like I used to buy your area, like now you playing me, that's crazy to me. Hey guys, it's Jordan. You may have heard my debut project out right now Straight no Chase. And guess what? Nyla we need to talk.

Speaker 1:

What's going on, guys, and welcome to another episode of we Need to Talk. I am Nyla Simone and today I got a very special guest in the building. All right, it's a female MC I've been following for a long time on Instagram time on Instagram, so I'm super happy to have her here, jordan. What's up, nala? How are you? I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming yo first and foremost. I am so proud of you, man. I'm so happy this tape is finally out.

Speaker 2:

Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am. I know you've been on me for a little bit to get this out, so I'm like Nala need it. We need to drop Ace out, so yes please, okay.

Speaker 1:

So I just want to start with um, how do you feel?

Speaker 2:

How do I feel? I feel like it's so tricky dropping right. Like we work on these things for so long we tweak, we edit, try to make everything perfect and then, like you just drop and it's like wait, like okay, what? Now? You know what I'm saying. You're waiting for the responses, You're waiting to just see what people like most. Like that's really how I am when I drop. Like I am, when I drop, Like I want to get into the science behind it, Like what are you really vibing with most. Like just getting into the interactions now, Like people got what they wanted. So I mean I feel good, I feel accomplished, I feel proud of the project. You feel at peace. I do feel at peace. Like I'm still a little shaky, Like because it's my first debut. You know what people are expecting from that. That's the apprehension Just a little nervous. This is your baby, this is my baby. But I feel good, I definitely feel blessed.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's all that matters. If you feel good. I think it's true to you Hearing it. The first song that I was introduced to you through was Flow. I think it's right on par.

Speaker 2:

Word, you think that too. And including flow. That's good because, like I was nervous, I'm like it's a little more vocal performances on here, a little more melodic performances is fire, though, like um, I was gonna get into it.

Speaker 1:

I think it's not to jump the gun. But you know, I just is it all. It's either on winter or trying to play me. But like the way you play with um pronunciation and stuff like that, I think that's what makes kendrick such a great mc is his ability to do that. So hearing you tap into that, I'm like okay, jordan.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm a student, all of me, just wake up and just said we was gonna do this like I try to. No, I try. Thank you for identifying that, because that makes me feel like, oh wait, they listening for real now.

Speaker 1:

I love that. You said that you're a student. I definitely want to know like what was your inspirations growing up musically, just because you don't sound like what the sound is now.

Speaker 2:

Growing up musically, my inspirations were definitely like Missy Elliott, lauryn Hill, just obviously penmanship. That's why I feel like I get akin to a lot. They're like yo, you be penning like, or I'm like that's the queen. So I could only hope to be in that light. But Lauren Andre, that's like one of my favorite MCs right there. He's probably like in my top three right there. Hov, being from Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying. You can't escape Hov. Biggie Even, just not rappers Amy Winehouse, nina Simone. I'm a fan of people who I think have a unique presence in their writing voice. So if I feel like you can articulate something in it, we could be both looking at these flowers. But if I could bust this down in a way that you wouldn't really think to describe it like that I'm just into perspective like that. So I feel like all those artists had a very strong style and perspective, um, uniquely so yeah, those are some of my influences.

Speaker 1:

That's a good way to word it. Looking at this, tribe called quest.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, like the tribe, I could keep going all day but that's my favorite.

Speaker 1:

Um, okay, all. And why the name Straight, no, chaser.

Speaker 2:

Straight, no Chase, I don't know. Like I feel like I'm a person who, in my regular life, like I guess how do I phrase this Like I value, like decorum or like politeness, like you know what I'm saying, like I try to be very like, you know, just give people respect. But on this, like I didn't want to be polite for real, like I wanted to say exactly how I was feeling, like I didn't want to fluff it, I didn't want it to be watered down and like I'm not even a shot drinker. You know They'd be like oh no, no, no, no, no. But like I felt like that, like I wonder, when you be like a cool representation or a flip, a double entendre you know what I'm saying, to kind of describe the way I was feeling at that moment in time.

Speaker 1:

I love that and let's talk about. You were talking about how you love Andre and Amy and all those people for being like unique with the pen and how they come across as artists, and I think that says a lot about the artists that you have featured on your project. You don't have too many, but you do have Foggy Raw. Shout out to the DMV and Davina Davion.

Speaker 2:

Davion. Yes, who's another dope artist?

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, yeah, talk to me about your relationship with them and why did you pick them in particular?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean so specifically. I don't have like the biggest relationship with them. I'm just an admirer of their art, honestly. So, foggy, I got hip to him from the internet. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like a lot of people, from his videos and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

He's very unique sonically, yeah, like the pen, and I was just like honestly, I'm not going to lie Like you know, sometimes you can hear something and automatically think of somebody. So I heard this beat and I'm like the kind of bop is, given that old school flair, like I felt like he would be the perfect match for it. So we reached out and literally the pairing ended up like that's something that's so satisfying, though, like you're talking about dropping and like how does that feel? Like to me, the creative process when something clicks is almost just as satisfying, because I'm like, oh, this is exactly how I pictured it.

Speaker 2:

So Foggy K1 did his thing. Bless that, we got the blessing. And then, honestly, the record was giving me trouble in terms of a hook. So like I was drafting a few hooks and like I'm like I like it, but like it feels like it's missing something, sent it to the sis Davion and like she sent it back and it was exactly what it was missing. So that was definitely a track where all the recipes came together and you know everybody did what they had to do. So definitely shout out to them, foggy and Davion.

Speaker 1:

Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2:

Yes, no, davion killed that hook, killed, killed, killed and she's done a lot of stuff on like Revenge of the Dreamers and stuff like that oh really, so yeah, she's had too.

Speaker 1:

I love that. You put me on to her, though, but what is? Because you guys collaborated for the record D-Boy, I want to know what is your definition of a D-Boy, of a D-Boy?

Speaker 2:

So I mean we from Brooklyn Like you all know like the D-Boys every outside, whatever they doing on them corners, but I don't know Like I feel like. Growing up in Brooklyn I kind of had the different perspective of that. I never really was in that life. I'm not saying that I'm affiliated in that way, but it was kind of like my idea of like my little cute fantasy. You know what I'm saying. What's that about? You always say hi, they always know you, oh, that's Diamond Daughter, that's so-and-so, whatever. But what would that idea be? What would that be like? But I also kind of wanted it to be a double entendre for the idea of I want you to be obsessed with me. This is my.

Speaker 1:

Whether it's toxic type of love that I'm talking about in that moment.

Speaker 2:

Like I want you to be obsessed with me like a druggie Like that's the words I be saying in this song Like I need you to fiend boy. Like I need you to really be on that type of time with me. So I guess it was also that the flip of like you know. But I want a cool type. Can we curse on this? I want a cool nigga Like I want a cool nigga Like. You know what I'm saying. Like I want you to have that swag, but I don't want you to act like a typical D-Boy. Like I want you to be all about me, if that makes sense. So that's kind of just a little dreamy thing I was on that day. I love it.

Speaker 1:

I love it. So what is your requirements for a D-Boy?

Speaker 2:

Oh, she breaking it down. Oh my gosh, you could pick your perfect D-boy.

Speaker 1:

What is the three that he has?

Speaker 2:

What's the three requirements? I definitely feel like that D-boy, fresh. Like you got to be fresh, whatever type of fresh it is, whether it's your kicks, or you got your little chain or your hat your fitted, whatever that is. So that's one. Like the presence, the swag got to be right, okay. And two is just like the game. Like you know what I'm saying. Like you got to be able to kind of like spit. Like I'm talking about spit, not like me, you don't gotta spit like me, but you gotta have a little swag to you. But in the air that's like confidence, but not arrogant. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Because those two like teeter on a very thin line and that line be so thin with me because you get on that arrogant side. I'm ready to peace you know what I'm saying but also sweet, like. I feel like that's something that is so key for me. Like, if you're not just nice or sweet, I don't really want nothing to do with you. So like you gotta approach, come correct, come nice. So we got swag, presence and sweetness. You gotta be sweet.

Speaker 1:

That's a solid three you know what I'm saying? What's your sign? I'm a Virgo, ooh, two Virgos, oh my God. Back to back today.

Speaker 2:

Big Virgo energy. It's that season, it's y'all season. Happy birthday, thank you. Thank you, and those are my birthday twins. Nas and Amy is my birthday twins. What I'm telling you something on that date is giving.

Speaker 1:

Something going on? All right, let me find out. I need to have me a Virgo, All right. So let's start with the first record on the track Minerals. Whose voice is that that intro drew on the record?

Speaker 2:

So, Cardo the producer, cardo Got Wings is the voice that set that up. So that record came about. Shout out to Cardo again that's my big bro. Like he just kind of like did what it needs to me when I came in the industry. Like he was just like I see you, like I want to work with you, I want to support you in whatever way I can. So we worked on that record out in Miami, we did that record.

Speaker 1:

So me and Out in.

Speaker 2:

Miami. Yeah, out in the M's, I love it. Yes, right, it's giving Brooklyn. We made that in Miami. I bring Brooklyn everywhere where I go child. So we got to keep that energy. But Pardo was on that record and another dope producer named Ricky who did a lot of stuff on like Good Kid, mad City, schoolboy Q. So we got some. You know some people that stand for real messing with the kid. But Minerals is a super dope record. I kind of wanted it to just have a chill vibe, like you're just in a site for something, you're just chilling with the whole music, just cool vibes. You're not doing too much and I feel like to start the project in that way would just be a cool entryway. It's not too much pressure, we're not giving you everything yet, we're not giving you too much, too little, but it's setting you up to kind of enjoy the soundscape that you're about to enter into so I think it definitely did that.

Speaker 1:

What are some records you usually listen to when it's that type of light up type of day?

Speaker 2:

what is that type of day? Um, it depends like how I'm feeling, honestly, like my family's from the caribbean we're from barbados and trinidad so like it could be some reggae, it could be some old school Like for me, if I'm by myself and I want to be on some weird timing, like it could just be like some alt rock, some radio head, some portis head.

Speaker 1:

Really yeah, like.

Speaker 2:

I'm a music head, like I'm telling you, like I really enjoy music. It could be some like Arabic pop. Like I'm telling you, I don't need to do that by myself Because, like you know, when I put the homies like and you put that on the site, they're like for real Jay Like you're doing too much right now.

Speaker 2:

We're not trying to be on that, but you know it's just some cool stuff, vibey stuff too Like. I see you got the to roll up to Like whatever the vibes is. Honestly, I try not to play aux that much because I feel like when you have some type of musical connotation, people be like oh, like what you going to put on the aux you be pressure, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1:

I don't want that pressure on me at all.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm not going to play none of my music if I'm on the aux, Like I'm not let y'all get it off, whatever y'all feel.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, I prefer not being on the ox so I can observe and learn cuz I know that's research time for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like you as a DJ, of course.

Speaker 1:

I'm not working. No, that pressure is literally work for you.

Speaker 2:

Now you think about damn what transition. How about whatever play next? Like you got your cue Follow-up, got a hit like like no, and then you play one and they not really bopping you like oh damn was that a? Miss like.

Speaker 1:

I take it too personal. So I feel you. Um, all right and then straight, no chase.

Speaker 2:

Obviously was this the inspiration behind the entire project, like that record in particular, or which one came first um, I feel like I don't want to say it was the inspiration behind the project, but I feel like once I don't want to say it was the inspiration behind the project, but I feel like once I made that one I started to kind of curate it a little bit more.

Speaker 1:

It gave you direction.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And then I was like this is like the title, like I feel like like once I made it, but just that record in general, shout out to Fredro, who did that record, who's been a part of a lot of good, really great music, a lot of pop hits and stuff like that too, which was different for me, kind of entering into that world. And I would just have to shout out Fredril, because he really pushed me on this record. He gave it to me, he was like you know, I feel like we should kind of do. He literally said this he was like a Portishead-type smash-up of R&B and then you know hip hop and rock and just have it just be a strong statement piece.

Speaker 2:

Because I kind of was voicing to a lot of producers too that I feel like people know me as an MC but they don't know that like I really take this craft seriously and as a songwriter, like I really try to hang my hat on being good with this pen. So I really wanted something to reflect that and show versatility and show growth and show all those things. So I feel like Straight no Chase is definitely my track. That showed that I got my stacks, I got my vocals on there Like I'm trying to show you I'm serious about this thing. You was talking your shit, man. Also not the subject matter of course.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you was talking your shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm like yo who tried to play you. Like what happened. Also that like you see the theme that we got going on Like nah, we can't talk too much about it.

Speaker 1:

Is it like career-based play you. Or is it like relationship, play you.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it's a reflection of multiple things, like in relationships, in different dynamics in this industry me trying to break through. I feel like it was just really how I was feeling at that time Like yo, people's playing with me and honestly, I feel like you only feel like that, really, when you don't give that out Like I'm, like that's not the energy I give. I be supporting everybody. I'm trying to oh, you need this, you need that, let's do it. And why y'all not give me that same respect back? So, like yo, everybody is, whatever I'm going to put in this music, you know what I'm saying and make some art off of that. So I feel like that's the safest way to do it at this point.

Speaker 1:

We like it, wherever you get your inspiration from, and it's also just relatable.

Speaker 2:

Who hasn't been fronted on. Yeah, I'm like people. All can relate to that, whether it was in whatever situation. So I appreciate you saying this, relatable, of course so alright, next we're gonna go with Picture Perfect.

Speaker 1:

I love the hook on this record. Did you write this hook?

Speaker 2:

you did I wrote everything on this. Everything you hear on this is Jordan that is my favorite hook.

Speaker 1:

For sure. I had a picture of what life should be sometimes. Life ain't always gonna be sunny. It will always be sweet. It won't always be sweet.

Speaker 2:

I'm like damn, and that that was crazy, because that was one of the records. We did that in la and I usually I can either be fast or slow or ride it, but that I heard the beat and that came immediately to me, that hook. So I was like that's when you know something's gonna stick with you and it just comes so effortlessly, like that. But that's another one. I'm like, if you can't relate to that, like I thought it was gonna be like this in life, but yo, anything can happen and it really ain't always gonna be sweet, but you gotta make what they say lemonade out of the lemons, like you gotta find a way to sweet it up.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's definitely what I thought about that another line I like is I'm not doing this for fame, I do this because it's my calling. I'm like damn, how did you know that this was your calling?

Speaker 2:

That's a great question. I feel like it's tough, especially the type of person I am, Like I like to be so sure about things. Maybe it's that Virgo coming out Definitely that Virgo.

Speaker 2:

But I'm like girl, we need to analyze, you need to try everything before you make sure that this is what you're going to do. But I always just been a writer, like I feel like younger, like growing up and stuff like that. It was creative writing at first. You know stories and stuff like that. Then it naturally went into poetry and at first I was like, yo, how am I telling my mom Like I want to be a rapper? Like she's not going to jack that, like this is not going to be something that's going to be smooth. You know what I'm saying. So I was like all right, how do I do this? So I started with those other little mediums and stuff like that. And then I was just like, honestly, I feel like this is what I want to do. So around high school I started just starting the craft.

Speaker 2:

But really for me, what was going to be important is I never wanted to be labeled as just a dope female MC. If I'm going to rap, I want you to put me up there where everybody that raps the dudes, the best of the best, like I'm not just rapping to be cool at it, especially because I have so many like I have a good amount of family in the industry. So I've seen this for a long time before I decided I wanted to do it. To kind of get into your question of like, what made you want to do it for yourself? So I was just like, if you're going to do this, I don't want it to be on the strength of nobody else, like I want it to be my own journey, my own, finding my way to do this, and I want to do it in my way, which was kind of like really trying to highlight the culture and the skillset which I fell in love with, which was words. So, yeah, I think it just I'm like losing. Like Well, I was battle tested too.

Speaker 2:

I was going into Cyphers at school, in high school with the boys and that's what really gave my confidence, not some gender war type stuff. But I'm like these boys is coming in here and they're like yo, I'm the best MC in the school. Like boom, boom, boom, boom and coming up, hickory, dickory, dog, like y'all not saying nothing, and I'm coming in, I coming in, I'm barring, I'm like, so I'm moving, like yeah, I rap, like you know, like I'll spit a little verse and my verse is killing all these boys that's in here, so much so that they're like we had like a posse cut for the school that we was doing. They're like, nah, you gotta go last, because if you go first they're not even gonna. Let me start actually having a little confidence, a little vibrato. You know you can't be a rapper and not have no confidence. Nobody ain't going to fuck with that for real. Like they're going to be like yo, she's whack. So just like little experiences.

Speaker 1:

I didn't want to put you to the back of the bus and do the night shift.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I know how Rosin them feel. Man, this is crazy out here. But no, those little experiences I feel like definitely molded me and made me gain confidence in myself. Just also working at it, like constantly being a student, listening to everything, whether I think it's good, whether I think it's bad, just trying to get that scientific, you know, data analysis on it, like really trying to be a student. So that's kind of how I found my way here.

Speaker 1:

I love it. Yes, talk your shit. Um, okay, so trying to play me as a woman? What, oh? Oh, that's my question. So wait, were you tricking? It sounds like you was tricking in a relationship. That that was my takeaway, I'm like. And how was she?

Speaker 2:

screaming I'm. So how old are you to be tricking? What is going on? You know it's levels to tricking. Like you know, like I was young, so it wasn't like I was really tricking for real, but like you know, you hold it down.

Speaker 2:

Like Just the fact that you went out of your way and gave something to somebody, or you want to get the breakfast sandwich, say the bacon, egg and cheese, today, oh, I'm coming with you to Arizona. Like that's tricking. Like if you're where I'm from, if that's not happening for you, that's you a trick. Like I used to buy your area. Like now you playing me, that's crazy to me. So I mean, that was my small level trick and I wasn't doing nothing crazy, let's be clear.

Speaker 2:

But I think it was just the idea of like respect and rapacity, like if I'm going to be treating you a certain type of way and you know that we kind of in the same place too, like I don't got it to be tricking, but that's kind of like my love language, that's what I'm going to show you. Like I care about you, I want you to be straight, I'm going to do this was kind of the idea and that that got seeded in there a little bit with the, with the trick, but honestly, not like I. I'm a trick, like I'm not gonna lie, like I want you to feel nice, like I want you to feel like I'll be tricking on my mama. She's like you shouldn't even be buying me this. I'm like girl, you deserve it like you know, I'm just that person.

Speaker 2:

like I will give you my last. Like if, if I love you and I I mess with you. Like that, I love that. Let's keep that on the low. Though I'm not no trick, I like to be tricked on y'all Period. But, not played with you. Feel me, there's a difference.

Speaker 1:

Trick responsibly okay.

Speaker 2:

This is what Jordan wants you to take away Trick responsibly.

Speaker 1:

And the hook, obviously the Queen Latifah, just Another Day flip. I love that record. That's one of my unwind. That's one of my unwind.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's another good Syphon too. You're just like oh, I had a day today for real, yeah, queen Latifah, a big inspiration in terms of her energy, the kind of energy she brought into hip hop when she came. It was super literally, queen shit.

Speaker 1:

Queen shit, ladies shit.

Speaker 2:

Ladies first, ladies first, and you're going to respect that. So I feel like, even this being my debut EP, paying homage to somebody like that, getting that type of energy surrounded on my project at all, it's like you know what I'm saying. It's like we coming in on queen shit and we letting that known, letting it be known that this is kind of like the standard you know what I'm saying, the standard for just respectability of yourself, the standard on how you want to be talked to and treated like I feel like it's not really a lot of boundaries, and going on like it's kind of like yo, like I'm gonna trick you out before you trick me, or whatever the case is, or the flip of the which could be. It's a space and time for everything. Right, we're not. We're not negating that either but let's have a little more balance in terms of let's bring some of it back so we know that we have options. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So, um, shout out to queen. Definitely love just everything that she brought to the table, and lyricism too, like she was cutting up, like people sleep on her for that. But she definitely has a pen.

Speaker 1:

So for sure. Shout out to queen Queen's, one of my favorites, so it made me happy to hear. And then Winner when, I hear this record. It really reminds me of Lauren Lost One really that's fine the talk that you talk in. It's like I thought you was a winner and that's the same shit. She's like nigga, you just lost one ah, okay, okay, I like that duality.

Speaker 2:

So, like winner, I like too, because I feel like that's cool, that it's at the end too, because I feel like you start to see that I'm going through my healing process at that point, because it was really like a reflective moment. Like yo, I really thought you was a winner, but just like everybody else, like you was a sinner. So I can't even really blame you for real. Like you just going through a human experience, just like I'm going through one, like I talked about, you know, just in the um. Like you, your daddy's son, like you feel me, like you, your daddy's son, like how I'ma blame you? You came from that for real, like that's all you seen. Like I'ma blame you because I'm not gonna deal with it, no more.

Speaker 2:

But I'm just sitting in reflective space really thinking about you know, how do we get here? Essentially, like what was the different things that I did, what was the different things you did On this whole situation? That's even bigger than both of us. That brought us to this situation. So I feel like that was definitely my moment of reflection, to kind of just but also to get my ish off too. Like yo, I got people too, that before this gets to anything else on my end, like before my people feel like they need to come ride for me, i'ma just let this be what it gotta be. You know what I'm saying let's just peace amicably, a little bit amicably, and just do what we gotta do from this space. But I did want it to be like a different take in that terms of like, alright, we not just gonna talk about how we so hurt we so whatever, like let's do some reflection to close this, to kind of bring it all home, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

No, it does, I like it.

Speaker 2:

I like it.

Speaker 1:

I like it, thank you and then, of course, you ended the project with Flo. Very well done. I'm so happy you made it on the project. Actually that was dumb.

Speaker 2:

You know the team was child. You putting flow on there, I'm like you're right, you didn't want to. You know I'm a I'm because I'm such. I feel like a purist in that way. You know nowadays, kind of how it'd be like, all right, we had the record out that was folding. Whatever the case is, I feel like, damn, was I cheating on by putting that as the last one? Because some people heard it but they was like they had to bust it down to me, like you still have so many people that haven't heard flow yet, like you, you gotta let them, you gotta bring them back to kind of what you entered the game with, and that was Flo. So I mean, it only made sense. But yeah, I was just like, ah, I want to give them everything they never heard like something you just a whole new experience. But that's why we say there for the end too, because you know it way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thank you, flow is still still one of my favorites. I can't front. I mean, I obviously I've heard it longer, so maybe that's why. But love, love it, thank you. Um, so what is your favorite song on the project and why?

Speaker 2:

hmm, what's my favorite song on the project? It changes every every week. You know that, like, as as you get reviews, as you be like, oh damn this, you like this one for this, let me like I'm that person too, like I'm a, like, I feel like if I had a superpower, it would be to experience how people experience my music, like first listen or first type. And is that like vain? Like to say that.

Speaker 1:

Like I don't have any superpower. No, you just really you want people to connect and you want to see how they connect.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what you're feeling when you're listening to this, like how, like what, what is it triggering in you? Or like what is the thought process like? I like to get into the real, like gristle of it. So, um, I feel like today my favorite off the project would probably be I'm gonna go straight, no chasing, I'm gonna go the title track. I'm gonna go to the title track. I really tried to, like I said, exhibit some different things that I don't feel like has been pushed to the forefront, at least for me so far in my career. So I think Straight, no Taste shows that versatility, so I'm going with that today.

Speaker 1:

I love it. And then, for those who are listening to the EP, or who are going to go listen to the EP, now that you just heard this interview on we Need to Talk. What do you want them to take away from this project? Like, who is Jordan?

Speaker 2:

What's the takeaway? What's the takeaway from the project? I don't want to give people a takeaway. I hope that you give it a chance to listen to it. I hope that you feel something from the project, whether it triggers a good emotion in you, whether it triggers a bad emotion in you. I hope you feel something from this project. I feel like we're not feeling enough for music nowadays and I hope that if you relate, if you feel something good to it, you stay on this journey with us. I got a lot more to give. I'm a young black woman from Brooklyn who is trying to advance this culture that I grew up loving you know what I'm saying and also bring a different type of spin and flair to it. So I hope that you guys are on board for, yeah, good music, substantive music we always going to be trying to say something and get something out of the music and just good vibes, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Good vibes, definitely that. Now, before we wrap, we got to play a game called questions that need answers. All you have to do is fill in the blank. Okay, let's do it. I think I'm ready. All right, the older I get, the less I Ooh.

Speaker 2:

The older I get, the less I Complain.

Speaker 1:

That's good.

Speaker 2:

That's great. I'm trying to complain less, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Good for you. How's she doing with that?

Speaker 2:

Cap, it's a little cap on that. Yeah, I that cap it's a little cap on that. Yeah, I did was complaining over here, so cap, but like I mean in terms of yeah, like that's something I'm trying, like you know, you gotta say you're gonna try to do it. So it actually happens.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like, at least about like bs, like I guess, like sticking, sticking with the flow, like good, I can't come or complaining about things I can't change, rather that's good. That's what I'll say. I'll clarify that one Good for you, since I got some people in the audience, you feel me.

Speaker 1:

You would never believe me if I told you.

Speaker 2:

You would never. These are good. I'm like, damn, I should have got these before. So I got to get you some real tea on this. You would never believe me if I told you I'm really a granny. Like I'd be in the crib, I'd be a sleeper. Maybe you could believe that.

Speaker 2:

But I don't know like I'd be in the crib, like we could do the outside, but we got to be ready to do the outside. Turn up like I need some advance. If you want to invite me to some, tell me please two days before at least, so I could just prepare. Mentally prepare yeah, so I feel like people wouldn't believe that, but I'm a granny y'all.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I look back at my life and hmm, Sometimes I look back on my life and I thank God. I thank God that we here. You know what I'm saying. We've been through a lot in general in life and I'm just grateful for it all to be here with Nyla.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, last one is my personality trait is uh, my personality trait is.

Speaker 2:

My personality trait is I like to have fun, I like to laugh, so I would say to be silly, I would say my personality trait is to be silly.

Speaker 1:

I like silly, silly's great, jordan. Thank you for stopping by on the pod man. Thank you for your new project, straight no, chase. I'm so glad it's out and I'm a really big fan of you. Likewise Happy to have you here. Appreciate you, sis. Shout out to Grandma. Everybody know where they can follow you if they don't already.

Speaker 2:

Y'all, it's Jordan aka she's Just Different. You can find me on all social media. At she's Just Different, you can get my projects straight. No chase streaming right now on all DSPs. So thank you, nyla, appreciate you, of course.

Speaker 1:

Talk soon, guys, peace, peace.

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