039: But... We're changing our name! Welcome to Season 3

We are excited to be back for season 3. And, to kick things off... we're changing the name of our podcast to fall in line with what Jesus is doing in our hearts and minds. Dive into the NEW podcast name with us, and hear what this season will hold as we kick off another chapter of discussion.

Show Notes:

• Slingshot Esports is a Christ-centered place for youth to play online and find community.

Transcript

039-Seasons 3 Opener - New Name

Amy Alexander: [00:00:00] You're probably going to hate us, but we're conservative Christian moms. We're here to empower other conservative Christian moms. to speak up, say what's true, and defend their children's futures. I'm Amy Alexander, and I'm the often too serious mother of twins. As always, my co hosts are Nikki River

Nikki: Hola amigos.

Amy Alexander: and Candy Rose. 

Candy Rose: Hey guys. 

Amy Alexander: Welcome to season three. Woo Woo 

Nikki: Woo.

Candy Rose: Woo. 

Amy Alexander: We're so excited to kick off another season with more content, more structure, more of everything. For our first episode back, we have some news for you guys. We're changing the name of our podcast to better align with who we are and kind of how this journey has shifted while we are changing our name.

Amy Alexander: Our desire to call all Jesus following mamas into brave and bold 

Amy Alexander: truth has not changed. So we want to spend this episode diving into the evolution of our podcast and why we've taken [00:01:00] this turn toward a new name, which will be, drumroll please, 

Amy Alexander: Trust Exercise. Pull up a chair and let's discuss.

Nikki: That's 

Candy Rose: Yes. 

Amy Alexander: So, uh, how many people have asked you guys? 

Amy Alexander: Why are names conservative Christian moms 

Amy Alexander: and when we're going to 

Amy Alexander: change

Amy Alexander: it. 

Amy Alexander: You 

Amy Alexander: guys been asked that question of it? 

Candy Rose: I, uh, I have gotten that question quite a few times and I'm always like, Amy said it was a good 

Candy Rose: idea,

Nikki: I'm super glad. Yeah, I'm super glad that we're changing it because I feel like it's a conversation every single time like, oh, we have a podcast. What's his name? Oh, it there always has a caveat. Oh, it's conservative 

Nikki: Christian moms, 

Nikki: but it's because we want people, right? Well, and it's because I was I'm always explaining it myself.

Nikki: I'm always 

Nikki: like, well, it's because We wanted it to reach a certain sect of people. And instead of thinking of a name, we 

Nikki: just were like, Oh, if they search conservative Christian and mom, [00:02:00] we're going to be the first thing that pops up.

Amy Alexander: Yep. 

Candy Rose: Oh, you're so, you said it way better than me. I'm like, um, 

Candy Rose: Amy said this was a good idea for search engines. I don't know. 

Amy Alexander: Yeah. Well, the great news is that pod catchers technology has gotten ever so slightly better. So like we have other ways to add keywords. So that has helped. But originally, you know, we sort of were like, well, we're sort of Karen's except not. And who cares? This is who we are. Right. And so we were just like, we're all in on it.

Amy Alexander: But. Really after episode, I don't know, one, we were like, I hate, I hate that conservative is first because none of us hold our politics over our faith.

Amy Alexander: So it's like, Ben, I feel like we've explained this, like. In many episodes where we're like, even though it's conservative Christian 

Amy Alexander: moms, we're Christians first, we love 

Amy Alexander: Jesus. And that's our first and only like 

Amy Alexander: identity. Conservative is not the identity, the [00:03:00] caveat's 

Amy Alexander: Christian. 

Nikki: Right. I feel like we're always saying, we're actually kingdom moms. We're not really conservative moms or Republican moms. We're kingdom moms. So 

Nikki: I'm, I'm, 

Nikki: thankful, 

Candy Rose: yeah, 

Candy Rose: I like, I'm excited 

Candy Rose: that we're 

Candy Rose: changing the name and I do like this one. I know like we talked about this for anyone who's never recorded a 

Candy Rose: podcast. We talked and talked and talked and every idea that we like 

Candy Rose: absolutely loved is all, of course, already taken. So 

Nikki: right? 

Candy Rose: was the best name we could come up with.

Candy Rose: Yeah, that wasn't already taken 

Candy Rose: And I do like

Nikki: And easy to say because our line, like conservative Christian moms and all the things, like there's so many tongue twisters and yeah, we're honestly, we just love each other and we love God. And we're, we're just going to keep trusting that this is what it's meant to be, which is to empower other people to, 

Candy Rose: Amen.

Nikki: yeah, walk out their faith.

Amy Alexander: love it. I love it. I love it. Why did we take conservative out? Now, we talked about why we didn't want to put conservative [00:04:00] first. Why do we not have a name that still includes the term conservative? 

Candy Rose: Good 

Nikki: Hmm. 

Amy Alexander: Okay, I'll 

Amy Alexander: answer 

Amy Alexander: with my, oh, 

Nikki: please, please, please. Well, I was going to say, 

Candy Rose: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. 

Nikki: don't want to draw a line, so to speak.

Nikki: you know, we can disagree and, still include people, if that makes sense. And I feel like even though we still have those strong beliefs, we're not trying to separate ourselves from everybody. We're like, no, come sit at the table. Let's talk. And we, even if we disagree, ultimately, we're kingdom minded. And I feel like this is a way to bring more people to the table than to, you know, so run out of chairs, so to speak.

Nikki: There's, there's no running out of chairs at this table.

Amy Alexander: I love that so much, Nikki. Yeah, I think that, Very early in our journey, we discovered how much we hated the [00:05:00] divisive nature of conservative influencers. And then, like, none of us are actually influencers, but the point remains, right? Is that we never wanted to be that hateful, angry, Divisive space. We want to be able to say what's true and we are, we stand firm in that.

Amy Alexander: So that hasn't changed and that won't change. We're still going to talk about politics. We're still solidly like believing in our conservative values. We still solidly all those things, but, we don't want to be divisive. And the main thing is the main thing, which 

Amy Alexander: is Jesus. And sometimes that means that I don't align 

Amy Alexander: with typical 

Nikki: Conservatism, right? 

Amy Alexander: right? 

Amy Alexander: because that, that often 

Amy Alexander: becomes it's own idol, right?

Amy Alexander: And that's just not where we live.

Nikki: No.

Candy Rose: Agreed. Yep. 

Nikki: I also just feel like, , it could have been off putting. You know, like, ugh, I'm conservative and, I mean, same, same thing, different coin. Just, we just want everybody to be able [00:06:00] to listen and be 

Nikki: able to draw truth from 

Candy Rose: Well, yeah. And I think for me, my, my hope 

Candy Rose: in changing the name is, you know, you listen to certain 

Candy Rose: things sometimes just from like the art or the way it's named. So if I am more liberal, if I'm more on the other side 

Candy Rose: and I see a podcast named Conservative Christian Moms, like I'm not even going to 

Candy Rose: try that.

Candy Rose: So yeah, we are 

Candy Rose: alienating. We're kind of, when we had that name. And so we're 

Candy Rose: hoping 

Candy Rose: to be 

Nikki: And I didn't even want to share it ever. I was like, I'm in the closet 

Nikki: with 

Candy Rose: I, well, so I would share it, but every time I said the name, 

Candy Rose: I was always like, I would be like, yeah, we do this podcast, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then of course people want to know the name. And I was like, yes, 

Candy Rose: so 

Candy Rose: the

Nikki: about that, look at that bird over there. 

Candy Rose: so don't let the name 

Amy Alexander: to me really, it really comes from the fact that conservative is first. I have no problem 

Amy Alexander: telling people I'm conservative. 

Amy Alexander: I just don't, I do not care. 

Amy Alexander: I feel very confident but to label us that, but the label 

Candy Rose: feels, [00:07:00] it had its purpose for that 

Nikki: season and seasons 

Candy Rose: I agree. In a 

Candy Rose: conversation with people, I don't mind 

Candy Rose: saying, Oh yeah, I'm 

Candy Rose: definitely conservative, but to like, to walk around with 

Candy Rose: that as our label, Like I don't mind being labeled a Christian. I love Jesus. He's my 

Candy Rose: my center, but to walk around labeling us as conservative. I don't know. I, although I do self identify as a 

Candy Rose: conservative, I don't want to be labeled that way.

Candy Rose: Does that make sense? 

Nikki: Oh yeah, for sure. I always want people to understand that I am more kingdom minded. And like Amy said, like that sometimes means that we don't completely align with our party. Values, but in, in a nutshell, we stand for, especially the things that are kingdom minded principles in our party. But there's plenty of things even on the democratic side, we're like, Oh yeah, that's, you know, love justice, do mercy, walk humbly.

Nikki: There's a lot of things on that side too. So I'm really glad we changed the name.

Candy Rose: Same, same. 

Amy Alexander: start looking for trust exercise. [00:08:00] We will, we will do this slowly so that if you didn't hear this podcast and you're confused, you don't lose, I don't know, you don't drop off. But, um, over the next few weeks, we're going to be changing, like, the actual name of the podcast in your Podcatcher. 

Amy Alexander: the little title card, the little art, right?

Amy Alexander: We're going to be changing our Instagram handle. We're going to be putting a website up. all these things are going to be happening. So please do follow along 

Amy Alexander: with us. 

Nikki: and bear with us. Just be patient with us as we turn everything over. 

Amy Alexander: Yeah, so true. Um, on that website, that's going to be coming up. We will have like some of the resources we've talked about over the 

Amy Alexander: last couple of seasons.

Amy Alexander: People have been asking for downloads and stuff like that. We're finally going to have a space to do that. 

Amy Alexander: Some of that stuff 

Amy Alexander: is coming. , let's dive into trust exercise. Why trust exercise? That feels a little bit off the wall considering all the words 

Amy Alexander: we always use. 

Nikki: Yeah.

Candy Rose: I was

Amy Alexander: Uh, 

Nikki: arrive to that super easily either, so 

Nikki: I don't feel like it's [00:09:00] willy 

Nikki: nilly. Part of it is lack 

Nikki: of easier ones 

Nikki: that weren't available, but I feel like it's a theme 

Nikki: that definitely came up over and over 

Nikki: and again, and I wonder if we should even mention some of our other options. 

Candy Rose: Yeah. No. 

Nikki: We don't want people to weigh in though, do 

Nikki: we? 

Amy Alexander: Like anything that's in our intro that we always said over and over. You know, we're like, okay, how can we pull this phrase out? Or, um, you know, you're going to hate us. You're going to love us. 

Amy Alexander: The, or 

Nikki: Yeah. 

Nikki: Serious mom. Right. Serious mom. Emotional mom. Honest mom. It Like made an acronym of she, but she doesn't go

Nikki: with anything I was just thinking now as we were saying the title that we should be she kingdom, but that would totally not work.

Amy Alexander: There's there. Yeah. Trust us. If you thought of it, we thought of it 

Amy Alexander: too. But. Why we landed on trust exercise. I mean, in my mind, it's a couple of places. Um, trust exercise really [00:10:00] encompasses our relationship with God and our relationship with people. The whole Bible is like this through line of trust. You know, it starts all the way back with Adam and Eve.

Amy Alexander: That relationship being broken was all about a lack of trust and a lack of who gets to decide, and I don't trust you enough to make this decision for me. and walking through tragedy. That has been, obviously, Candice, you can speak to that trust, trust in God, trust in others, being in relationship with each other in community is itself a trust exercise.

Amy Alexander: So to me, it's a great term for, The reality of walking, just like our, our new intro is going to say something about being in right relationship with God and others. And that's really what it comes down to. It's a trust exercise to be in relationship with others who are going to hurt you. It's a trust exercise to be in relationship with 

Amy Alexander: God who isn't always forthcoming about exactly what he's doing or about his direction or all that stuff.

Amy Alexander: Like

Amy Alexander: we're in a [00:11:00] trust exercise.

Nikki: There's so many scriptures to that point to it. You know, it's like run the race 

Nikki: faithfully and like, you know, um, what's the one about the 

Nikki: boxing it out? You know what I mean? There's just so many verses that 

Candy Rose: Fight. The good fight. Is that the one you 

Nikki: yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank you. Um, and yeah, and just, I don't know, remember it's putting on that analogy for me is really helpful as someone who's been an athlete and somebody who, I don't know, But like just an exercise, it speaks to an active role and not a passive role.

Nikki: And I think sometimes people, I think something that happens to me in faith is like, God, you're not doing this or this, this thing's not going away. Or I still have these problems in my life. , and without the. Knowing that it is an exercise in faith, you might give up. So I really love the name because I think it reminds me.

Nikki: that we take an active [00:12:00] role in our relationship with God, like we trusting takes, takes faith, you know, and you have to work that out. And sometimes it's scary and sometimes it's easy, but we can do it with each other and we can do it with the Lord. Um, and we have to exercise it. We have to grow that muscle.

Nikki: We have to keep moving it forward. And so I, I really love it. 

Nikki: Yeah. 

Nikki: I think it just encompasses who we 

Nikki: want to be in our faith to 

Nikki: like, we want to be people 

Nikki: who actively seek the Lord, 

Nikki: actively walk alongside each other and, you know, help each other,

Nikki: Bear each other's burdens. So I don't know.

Nikki: I really think it suits us. It 

Nikki: suits us in the 

Nikki: season, especially. 

Candy Rose: Yeah, I agree. I was gonna say, uh, the Where we are, where we've come. Yeah, it's a lot of trusting, learning to trust God, learning to trust others, and maybe trust exercise. We're asking like our audience to 

Candy Rose: trust us trust 

Candy Rose: exercise. 

Nikki: Yeah, yeah, it's all, it's a lot of things. It really works in a lot of ways. So, [00:13:00] I think it's a name that we can, grow into, too.

Candy Rose: Yeah, I agree. I agree. There's lots of possibility there 

Amy Alexander: good. 

Nikki: I 

Nikki: love it. 

Amy Alexander: Yeah. I also think it requires trust. Like, as we're talking about it, I'm thinking of so many more things, but It does require trust 

Amy Alexander: as someone who's kingdom minded to enter into relationship and conversation with people who vehemently disagree with you.

Nikki: Mm hmm. 

Amy Alexander: And we have said for now, we're into three seasons of saying 

Nikki: No, it's our name. You're probably going to hate us, but you're going to love us. We're trusting that the word is good and it's not going to return void. Actually, but 

Nikki: Jesus was also hated, so there's that, 

Amy Alexander: Where is that? Well, We want to be a space that's safe to enter in to difficult conversation. We want to be, like you said, Nikki, a big open table while we still stand on what we believe is true. And we will say it's biblical truth. And it's authoritative [00:14:00] truth. There are people who have come to completely different conclusions based on the exact same passages.

Amy Alexander: And that is part of being in the body of Christ. That is part of being in relationship. Diversity creates maturity. Ephesians says that. So we want to be a space where we are modeling for everyone, hopefully trying to model what it's like to. argue to disagree and then to pray for each other, right?

Amy Alexander: Like to like, really enter in and say, our commonality is 

Amy Alexander: that we trust 

Amy Alexander: Jesus. And we're going to choose to trust each other, 

Amy Alexander: even in the stuff that creates tension, because the tension helps us grow.

Candy Rose: That's good. 

Nikki: I like that, Amy. I feel like those will be some more topics, too, like, because even though we can read the same scriptures and come to different conclusions, How do you navigate that? So, you know, there's topics like we've done before, but we'll continue to cover abortion, LGBTQ, all these issues where people read [00:15:00] scripture and then 

Nikki: decide

Nikki: different things and there's, how do we still.

Nikki: Walk in relationship with other. How do we not other people? How do we call people beloved? Still, um, even when we don't agree. 

Nikki: So those are things that I'm trusting that we will work out.

Candy Rose: Uh, yeah, every day I feel like, yeah, I feel like my whole life is a 

Candy Rose: trust exercise right now. it's a perfect 

Candy Rose: word. 

Amy Alexander: So where are we going from here? some of the topics that are coming at you are, We're going to get 

Amy Alexander: into the occult a little bit. Um, we're going to be talking about Trump. We're going to talk about voting.

Amy Alexander: We will get through those episodes. We're going to talk about Jesus a ton because we get to and we can.

Amy Alexander: Uh, what else 

Amy Alexander: guys?

Candy Rose: I don't know. I love it when people give us feedback on Instagram because right now I think that's one of the only ways people can 

Candy Rose: talk back, but someone said they would love to hear 

Candy Rose: our views on slang and video games. I was like, well, okay. [00:16:00] Like, 

Candy Rose: I don't know.

Candy Rose: Do we have a feeling? Slang, like slang, S

Candy Rose: L 

Candy Rose: A N G. Like, you know, the slang all the kids 

Candy Rose: use. 

Nikki: skibbity, skibbity 

Nikki: toilet. 

Amy Alexander: I have no comment about slang. Like I have literally no opinion, , I'm a opinion on that topic, but I actually work, um, we're discipling someone who has a video game. Um, ministry 

Amy Alexander: and he gets a ton of pushback from churches. Like he has such a strained relationship with churches because they're all like, we don't support that.

Amy Alexander: It's video games. And he's like, okay. So maybe we, we should have him come talk about his ministry. It's, it's a really cool, it's called slingshot e sports. 

Amy Alexander: And he basically, it's like kind of like youth group, but on Discord and they have like live events and he's just creating a safe Christ centered space to play 

Amy Alexander: video games 

Amy Alexander: together. I 

Candy Rose: I think 

Candy Rose: that's a 

Nikki: love it. Even Chad could come on for that and [00:17:00] talk probably a 

Nikki: little bit. 

Candy Rose: I'm sure we can get lots of people to come on and talk about 

Candy Rose: video games.

Nikki: Yeah, 

Nikki: I 

Candy Rose: of video game players out there. 

Nikki: You know, and I think just like more on like, 

Nikki: how do we like, you know, we've talked a little bit before I'm a 

Nikki: wedding photographer, , and I'm a worship 

Nikki: leader and those two don't always intersect or, or they intersect poorly as far as what people's expectations are of me. So maybe we could do an episode of

Nikki: you know, judgment versus discernment versus, I don't know, just 

Nikki: how do we live 

Nikki: without people's judgment? 

Candy Rose: Yeah, that's always a good topic. I feel like we're talking about 

Candy Rose: that all the time. Someone said something 

Candy Rose: On the Instagram, like parenting teenagers and preteens. And I was 

Candy Rose: like, Oh, I feel like we talk about that all the time. Like some of these are just things we are always talking about it, but in generally, I feel like we're 

Candy Rose: always trying to touch on like what's happening 

Candy Rose: now.

Candy Rose: Like election. . Halloween will be coming up. So we're doing something interesting for that, you know, like holidays. Because family, I mean for us, grief has been a [00:18:00] big one, so touching on that from time to time or what we're reading, you know, like there's so many things, so many things that touch us. And so we want to just talk about it and share it. 

Nikki: Yeah, Finding and keeping purpose. This is so many, I just feel like it's going to be a good season. 

Nikki: It's going to be a good 

Nikki: few more seasons and I'm excited to do it, but you guys should keep sending 

Nikki: your 

Nikki: suggestions

Nikki: to the 

Nikki: Instagram because we'll keep a log of them 

Candy Rose: Yeah, I was gonna say they all get written down. I write them all down 

Candy Rose: and when we can we try to 

Candy Rose: pop them in there. 

Nikki: Yeah. You know what I want to, I think we've talked about it before, but like, it'd be cool to talk about the different kinds of like preaching styles. Like how people do topical and like exogenic, I never say that word. You know what I mean? Like line by line, exogenic, exegesis

Nikki: or 

Amy Alexander: X, 

Nikki: yeah, 

Nikki: I can 

Amy Alexander: exegetical and there's also 

Amy Alexander: X 

Amy Alexander: expositional. 

Nikki: you go. And just the different styles [00:19:00] and, and even worship music. Today I had music. We should do an episode on 

Nikki: worship music. I was listening to one of my favorite 

Nikki: bands, which is Maverick City. and all of a sudden I had this thought of like, this line is not theologically 

Nikki: correct. Like, it kept, it kept singing the line over and over and over again, and every single time it was 

Nikki: like, that's not correct. 

Candy Rose: Which line? I'm so 

Candy Rose: curious. Can I 

Nikki: Okay, I'll tell you, and maybe you might disagree, or maybe you could talk me into it in a different way, but it was what the Holy Spirit was convicting in the 

Nikki: moment, I felt like, because it kept coming to mind, and I've sung this song so many times. Um, it's Maverick City when Naomi Reign is singing, um, No matter where I go, he's there.

Nikki: And she sings, If I make my bed in hell, he's there. And she sings that line over and over and over again. And I'm guessing the Lord is with us. It's even in our backsliding or in our whatever. No, she says, 

Nikki: if I make my bed in hell, and she says that over and over again, I'm like, wait, hell is literally the separation from God.

Nikki: So I don't think we can actually sing if we've decided 

Nikki: our bed is [00:20:00] in hell, that the Lord can be with us in

Nikki: hell, but maybe it's figurative. Like I'm in hell, like right now, Candice, you know, in the 

Nikki: deepest grief that feels 

Candy Rose: yeah, that's what I 

Nikki: But when she was 

Nikki: singing it, 

Amy Alexander: when you make your bed in a consequence, 

Amy Alexander: right? You're like 

Amy Alexander: laying the consequence of your sin. 

Nikki: but the way 

Nikki: she 

Nikki: was 

Amy Alexander: a really 

Amy Alexander: strong way of saying it, and I would not sing that 

Amy Alexander: over and over. 

Nikki: and in the same song, in

Nikki: the same song, she sings, ask all the Hebrew boys. So the whole song, I was 

Nikki: like, you know what? I don't know

Nikki: if this song checks out. If you were like, go ask all the white boys or go ask all the black boys. Boys, like, it's just all of a sudden this 

Nikki: song, I mean, 

Nikki: , I was listening to worship all 

Nikki: morning and I've sung the song out so 

Nikki: many times. And this time it was

Nikki: like, Oh, I don't think this song is very correct. So it might be interesting for us to like, listen to songs 

Nikki: and talk about, 

Candy Rose: I really 

Candy Rose: like

Candy Rose: Maverick City Yeah, I would be curious because a lot of what they do

Candy Rose: is um, what do you call it when you're not like

Candy Rose: You're 

Nikki: Oh, prophetic. They're 

Candy Rose: [00:21:00] Right. They're just like, it's like they're almost singing their own like battle almost So I wonder 

Candy Rose: if some of what they're saying that hits you wrong or maybe hits other people wrong too is is not So 

Candy Rose: much a congregational line But more like a them singing their way through something which could still be arguably dangerous if you're putting it 

Candy Rose: out 

Candy Rose: in a 

Candy Rose: CD format

Nikki: way. 

Candy Rose: But 

Candy Rose: you 

Candy Rose: know cuz sometimes that song is called In the Room. 

Nikki: He's In 

Nikki: the room, 

Nikki: he's in the room, 

Candy Rose: Yeah. Um, 

Candy Rose: I do like Maverick City. 

Candy Rose: Yeah, I'll have to listen 

Nikki: I do

Nikki: too. No, I love it. 

Nikki: I still love it, but I find that that 

Nikki: would be an interesting episode 

Nikki: to dive more into. 

Candy Rose: and I, Nikki, I mean, I mean, we don't have to sit in this. I know we don't have like a real agenda today. There was 

Candy Rose: this song

Candy Rose: that but we could say 

Candy Rose: did forever ago that you were like, I don't like this because I don't like the 

Candy Rose: words.

Candy Rose: And it, was, 

Candy Rose: um, the 

Candy Rose: refiner's 

Candy Rose: fire. Do you remember 

Candy Rose: when we sang that no, no, I love the words. I 

Nikki: just was, Oh, and okay. Do you know, um, our mutual friend, David, I won't say his last name just for safety sakes, but our mutual [00:22:00] worship leader friend, several years, it was like right before 2020, I think. 

Nikki: Um, he started bringing this song. It was the very first time Maverick City was really coming big on the scene.

Nikki: And he brought this song refiner, which everybody was singing. And they all start singing it during practice. And I'm reading through the words cause I always read lyrics first. I will not sing anything without reading it and I'm reading it. And it was like, wait, I should pull it up. It's like, it basically says I want to be tried by fire purified.

Nikki: Yeah. 

Nikki: But the, the verses are like pretty much slay me, God, do whatever you need to do. And I was like, I'm not praying this right now. I told David, I was like, I raised my hand and I'm like, 

Nikki: what? We should not sing this. He's like, Oh, it's okay. I'm like, you can only say these 

Nikki: words 

Candy Rose: if you 

Candy Rose: mean

Candy Rose: them. Yeah. They're 

Nikki: Yeah. And subsequently the next year was the hardest year for most of us, 2020. 

Nikki: And 

Amy Alexander: fair though, you can't always like. It should always be 

Amy Alexander: [00:23:00] theologically correct, 

Amy Alexander: I believe, but worship's formative.

Amy Alexander: So often worship is about bringing your heart along, like you don't always have the heart that you're saying, 

Amy Alexander: right? 

Amy Alexander: And the idea is that, If you are doing the worship, it's forming your heart and changing it.

Amy Alexander: So I think a lot of times we do, like, even if, if you're listening and you go to a super liturgical church, if you've really done the 

Amy Alexander: time to think about those liturgies, those are actually really meaningful and purposeful and beautiful. They don't have to be like a slave to religion. They can actually, they're actually really incredible formative activities that a lot of evangelical churches have dropped.

Amy Alexander: so, 

Amy Alexander: But 

Amy Alexander: You're right, it 

Amy Alexander: will happen if you pray 

Nikki: it. 

Nikki: was a very crazy year. You know, I we ended up leaving, 

Nikki: David ended 

Candy Rose: yeah, I 

Nikki: It was a very 

Candy Rose: it's a beautiful song, but I understand what you're saying and I think in general we should always use caution when, especially the three of us being worship leaders, you know, we're leading people. But I also agree with what 

Candy Rose: Amy [00:24:00] said, sometimes we have to 

Candy Rose: say it we're singing it not only to God, but like to help get 

Candy Rose: us heart 

Candy Rose: and mind 

Nikki: Yeah, you're testifying to yourself. You're, you're preaching to yourself. You're like the, and honestly, to be with God, if he is the fire, if he consumes 

Nikki: and he is better, then of course we should be consumed by him.

Nikki: But that process can be very painful. 

Nikki: I'm just saying. 

Candy Rose: Can be. 

Nikki: So look at that. This is like a partial episode on that, but I think we should dive more into that in like a, 

Amy Alexander: Yeah, it would be 

Amy Alexander: cool to do like a theological study of a few 

Amy Alexander: really popular ones. 

Nikki: Yeah. 

Amy Alexander: That would be cool. 

Nikki: Yeah. So that would be a great one, even though we half did it today. And 

Nikki: then, um, I know we did divorce already, but I feel like there's lots of episodes that we need to like touch back in on. 

Nikki: So,

Nikki: you know, another divorce episode, another grief 

Nikki: episode, so many things I 

Nikki: think 

Candy Rose: And we have a, we have a long list of topics too, stuff we've are, we've been working on and things like that. So yeah, we have a lot of good, [00:25:00] good stuff. 

Nikki: Candice is our organizer. Thank you for that, Candice. I'm glad that you're remembering all that.

Candy Rose: Yes. 

Nikki: Keep it as organized and on 

Nikki: task. 

Candy Rose: I. just, I love organization. It helps, It helps 

Nikki: I need you in my life to help organize.

Candy Rose: It helps you remember things. It helps you find things. It helps you just function. Like it just helps.

Nikki: Yeah. 

Amy Alexander: I love it. I was trying to explain to someone the other day that I use unread messages as to do lists. So I try to respond, like I try to 

Amy Alexander: be like, okay, and then go back and make it unread. But if I don't have a minute to do 

Amy Alexander: that, it might just stay unread because I can't make my brain process that information right now.

Amy Alexander: I can't do it. I'm processing too many things. And I 

Amy Alexander: just, it 

Amy Alexander: just has to wait. And they were like, Oh, I do the same 

Amy Alexander: thing. 

Nikki: I have like 

Nikki: my phone, if I 

Nikki: showed it to you right now 

Nikki: is all red 

Nikki: because when 

Candy Rose: mean is, what you 

Candy Rose: guys

Candy Rose: mean is, 

Nikki: to [00:26:00] it, 

Candy Rose: So what you mean is you don't read it until you have 

Candy Rose: time to respond and process Is that what you're saying? 

Nikki: Yes, and I'll 

Nikki: even like if I read yours, I try to read our core group like I have it's like, like the grief circle, 

Nikki: you know, like the grief circle, I have that like on a priority circle to get to me a Nikki priority circle. So there's people that I'll check there's right away. 

Nikki: And then there's like an outer 

Nikki: ring and the ring outside And then there's 153 They don't get to be answered right now, but you know, or if I accidentally check it and I don't answer, that means I got squirreled, meaning I 

Nikki: was in the middle of doing it and then I got a 

Candy Rose: That happens to me sometimes. I always feel really bad. Yeah. When you're like, Oh, I'm going to 

Candy Rose: respond. Let read this and respond. and then 

Candy Rose: something happens and you don't. And then like days or

Candy Rose: weeks go by and you're like, oops, that is right. I did never 

Candy Rose: Yes. 

Amy Alexander: That's what I'm always trying to avoid because that would happen daily if I let it. I'm not opening that 

Amy Alexander: until 

Amy Alexander: I 

Candy Rose: Yes, I do do. I do do that because I [00:27:00] mean, it's so funny how like I can go days where like I have very little contact with people and honestly, I am totally okay with those days. And then other days where you know you're busy and like everyone's blowing 

Candy Rose: up your phone and you're like, Oh, I don't have time. 

Nikki: That just made me think that we should 

Nikki: have an episode on capacity because I feel like a lot of people get shamed, 

Nikki: like I am completely okay. Our society only praises people that are very, very, very high capacity, super, super organized. And then we all fail on this side because we're not given 

Nikki: ways to operate and be, and we're not all meant to be type A, 

Nikki: you 

Candy Rose: Right. Well, even if you are type A, like I'm type A, but I don't, I don't have the 

Candy Rose: capacity to constantly be

Candy Rose: answering people's texts if I'm getting like a hundred in a day and I still have 

Candy Rose: stuff to do, like I can't just sit around responding to people's 

Candy Rose: texts all day. 

Nikki: So maybe just like more like how do we live in this crazy busy life, which we've talked about Sabbath before, but it's just 

Nikki: like, you know we're in a Facebook [00:28:00] world, Instagram, Tik TOK, and there's like 1600 friends on 

Nikki: my friends list. And you all really, I can't really be friends with 1600 people.

Nikki: Not really. You can't really. 

Nikki: do life with people. So yeah, 

Amy Alexander: yeah, 

Amy Alexander: that would be good. 

Nikki: yeah, yeah, so lots 

Nikki: of things 

Nikki: coming down the pipe, just naturally, and things we've been thinking about 

Nikki: and,

Candy Rose: I mean, we're going to have to do a lot of political stuff this year because of the election guys,

Nikki: okay, but really, 

Nikki: yes, 

Amy Alexander: other week rhythm. So expect to see us every other week, probably on Mondays. 

Amy Alexander: And so if we don't come out the second week, you'll know it was on 

Amy Alexander: purpose twice a month, people

Amy Alexander: twice a month. Speaking of 

Amy Alexander: capacity. 

Nikki: yes, we want to do more consistent for 

Candy Rose: yeah. Yep. We're gonna try to set regular 

Candy Rose: rhythms. 

Candy Rose: Hurrah. 

Nikki: can do it. I believe in us. We have two very organized 

Nikki: people and me.

Candy Rose: [00:29:00] we've got you. 

Amy Alexander: Well, on that note, you're going to hate 

Candy Rose: Nah, they're, they're, gonna 

Candy Rose: love

Nikki: They're gonna love us. 

Nikki: And if they do hate us, they 

Nikki: were meant to because Jesus was.

Amy Alexander: ha ha ha! 

Nikki: See you next time, guys.