When Prayer Breaks Reality

He says a voice entered his mind, ordered him to shut off the TV, and changed the trajectory of his life. Michael Monk joins me to unpack a string of experiences that begin with a third eye style awakening and escalate into something most people only hear about in whispers: a severe left-eye injury followed by a prayer he believes healed it, then years of testing spiritual guidance through unmistakable body signals he calls “yes” and “no.” If you’re curious about energy healing, prayer, and spiritual awakening stories that don’t fit neatly into a single tradition, you’ll want to hear how he connects Christian language, chakra mechanics, and lived experimentation.

We also go deep into consciousness and perception, including the Law of One, 2012 and quantum shifts, and his claim that physical reality functions like a sensory construct built by the nervous system. Michael explains the moment he saw the world “shimmer” into rainbow waveform energy, how fear instantly snapped him back, and why he believes meditation is less about forcing focus and more about relaxing into “nothing” until extrasensory perception turns on. From there we get into clairvoyance training, auras, telekinesis, and why he created the Avatar Energy Mastery Institute alongside a separate metaphysical church for people who want devotion and technique kept distinct.

Then we open the bigger doors: out-of-body experiences and astral projection, angels and demons, fallen angels, “hell” as a vibrational match, and how unprocessed emotion can behave like something external. We also touch UFO orbs, hybrid and interdimensional themes, and CE5 style meditation for contact. If any of that hits a nerve, you’re not alone. Subscribe for more conversations like this, share the episode with a friend who loves the paranormal and spirituality, and leave a review so more people can find the show.

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Good evening everyone's special guest. And we're gonna just let him come out here and open up about his story. And I was just telling him that. I didn't do a lot of background and I kind of wanted to come in light-sided and um you know for him to tell us his story and everything from there. So I'm gonna let you take over the show. So go ahead and introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

All right, Melissa, thanks for having me. Hello everybody. My name is Michael Monk. I'm uh uh metaphysical teacher, energy mastery, spirituality, uh healer as well, though I though I don't publicly offer that anymore. Um I've been at this since the year 2011. Uh my journey began in nineteen ninety-nine and started out religious in nature. I I was raised in a Christian faith, Mormon to be precise, and I was the first one to rebel and say I I don't want anything to do with this. So it it's I'm just setting a backdrop.

The Night A Voice Spoke

SPEAKER_01 1:08

I wasn't seeking. It it found me. Uh many years after quitting the church, this is about the winter of nineteen ninety-nine, I'm watching a comedy movie, just mindlessly uh being entertained by it, when uh a presence uh I didn't have the vocabulary for it back then, so the vocabulary I use now is is uh hindsight, but a presence came in through what I would now call my crown chakra, very powerful, and rested in the center of my mind, what I would now call the third eye, and radiated power, and and I heard a a booming voice in my eardrums that I also sensed telepathically in my mind. So it was both audible and telepathic. And the words were stop laughing, stand up, turn the TV off. So I did, and obviously I was a bit shocked and was curious what was talking to me or who. Um I I asked this present if it was my grandfather because he had recently passed away, and the voice boomed in my eardrums, yes, and but it was accompanied by a very distinct feeling that I've come to call the Holy Spirit. Uh that feeling I can best describe as electricity from head to toe, hair standing on their end, chills up the spine, and like uh champagne bubbles of bliss going through the body. And then uh after it answered yes that it was my grandfather, there was there was a feeling it gave me like there's something else, there's someone else here, or something you're missing. So I asked if if it was my cousin Jason because I felt that presence and and he had recently died, and it answered yes. And I got the same feeling, that Holy Ghost feeling, uh, the electricity hair standing on their ends uh and the champagne bubbles of bliss. So after that I was confused and I said, Okay, you're my grandfather and you're my cousin. I'm confused. And it it it opened up my inner vision, what I would now call a third eye awakening, but my outer vision was replaced by my inner vision, and what I saw uh beyond count, thousands, millions, billions, I don't know, a huge host of humanoid light beings that were all connected by silvery threads, and they were all speaking to me as one unified voice. And it was then that my heart knew what I I was talking to, so I I acknowledged it as God and it was pleased. I mean, this presence is in my body, so you can feel what what what it feels, and it was pleased with that and said that you finally met me and I give you a space and time to answer questions. Uh the questions and the answers I've totally forgotten about because they're pretty much ir irrelevant. The only questions I knew to ask at the time were Bible related, and I didn't even know much about the Bible at at the time. It would answer my questions, and I could tell that it was trying to lead me towards a great truth that that I wasn't ready for. That was my takeaway from the evening. So that's that's what started all of this. And uh two weeks after this was when I witnessed uh my first miracle. So I I had read the Bible a bit, even though the the voice of God, which I've only heard three times in my entire life, uh seemed to fade after that night, the presence of the Holy Spirit stayed with me and gave me a relationship, like like I had a yes and no relationship with it, and another way uh was a reward for correct thought or a warning for incorrect thought. So the yes and the reward for correct thought is a feeling that I call the Holy Spirit, the electricity and the champagne bubbles of bliss, and the answer no, or a warning for incorrect thought is a slight uh adrenal feeling in the belly, like pike flight uh syndrome. So I had read the Bible and and got some great truths out of it through translation. Like I I I would think in my mind what what does this passage mean? And the Holy Spirit would either confirm or deny that that that meaning, but but things really took a uh well, I lit on fire after my first miracle.

The Eye Injury And Healing

SPEAKER_01 5:42

So I was home alone and uh yeah, I was by myself and I had an accident. I got stabbed in my left eye by a sharp jagged object and and it was a really bad wound. Uh I go to the bathroom and I look in the mirror and my my left eye is leaking blood and eye fluid. So basically I lost my eye. It's not something that 911 could fix, I could tell. And upon that realization, my right eye teared up, and now I was effectively blind. But in this uh blindness, darkness, there seemed to be a soft voice saying, Michael, you talked to God two weeks ago, why not pray? So I did. I I I got on my hands and knees and I prayed. The exact words were, Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, let my eye be healed. And the moment I stopped talking and and or stop praying, every particle in my body vibrated with a really fast vibration. I get up and I look in the mirror, and the blood and the eye fluid are gone, the eyes perfectly healed, the tears are gone, but from the center of my forehead, a thin stream of blood is running down. I wipe it off, and there's no wound on my forehead. There's no way the blood could have gotten there. And yeah, that was my first uh what I call a reality-bending miracle. I or you know, which is something beyond our understanding that takes place with spiritual energy. So Wow. Yeah, after that I I was yeah, it was it was shocking. I I remember the emotion sitting there looking in the mirror, half fear, half wonder, half joy, half bewilderment. Like, you know, i i it's it'll shock you to your to your core. Definitely relieved that my eye was healed, but you know, what the hell, what what do you do with that? Who do you tell what comes next? You know, all sorts of uh questions.

Testing Truth Through The Holy Spirit

SPEAKER_01 7:43

So what came next uh over an eight year period was I I tried to find God by going back to church. I uh and and and I read all all of the Bible and got translations from it through the Holy Spirit that are non-traditional to say the least. Like I I got uh reincarnation from from reading the Bible. I I I read a passage and I said, Well, that sounds like reincarnation, and the Holy Spirit's like, Yes, you you're you're correct. Reincarnation is real. Read another passage about about uh marriage, about um uh the the nature uh of marriage, and I got from it that soulmates literally share a soul, like like they literally share a higher being. And uh yeah, these are very non-traditional things, and I and I tried presenting this uh stuff to the church that God had taught to me, that God had healed me, and and that God was helping me to translate these scriptures, and they rejected it uh pretty much utterly. Uh churches like that. They're their place is to put a man in between you and God, and luckily I I had the courage and and the self-fortitude not to let that break me down. So I I left the church and uh over the course of about eight years I I would um feel the Holy Spirit learn things by thinking and asking God if it's true and miracles. I I would experience these these miracles at a hundred percent every time I would pray for them because uh I had a a a testing system. Instead of just praying for whatever I want, I would first ask God, can I pray for this miracle? And quite often the answer would be no. I would get a feeling in the adrenals that it's not right to pray for this. Uh, but every so often I I'd get that yes, the electricity from head to toe, the champagne bubbles of bliss, and I'm like, there you go. You know, my face meter would go to one hundred, I'd pray and and receive it, and this includes healing of incurable diseases on myself and on others, weather alterations and and all sorts of magic and and and synchronicity.

2012 Leads To The Law Of One

SPEAKER_02 10:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

So that was my path up until um uh two thousand eight when uh I I w I was at work, um my family w was really, you know, concerned about me o over the eight years and nobody really believed me. And the the modus operandi of the family was Michael needs to stop praying, Michael needs to stop reading the Bible, and Michael needs to just work his job. So that that's what I was doing to to humor them and and to you know get the physical side of my life together. When people are talking about uh 2012. You remember the Mayan calendar coming to an end, and I check in with God about it, right? I I and uh and Holy Spirit is like head to toe, like there's something to this, Michael, like like look it up. So I did. I got on Google and looked up uh 2012 Mayan calendar and a David Wilcox video popped up and he's giving a a talk um at some type of convention where where he's talking about all sorts of things, and I'm getting a lot of Holy Spirit confirmation on what he's saying, which was very surprising because this isn't the Bible, like this is something totally outside the Bible and and God is backing it up. But in particular, he would quote from a book called The Law of One, and I felt the Holy Spirit every time he would quote from that book. So I got really curious about that, and they have an online searchable database. It's a channeling done by a lady named Carla Rukirk in the early 80s of an entity that calls itself Ra and says it's a consciousness that evolved from the planet Venus and that it's in service of the one infinite creator. As I'm reading this channeled material, I'm getting the greatest density of Holy Spirit confirmation ever, just confirmation after confirmation, and and it was astounding, you know, just a hundred years ago this material would get you burned at the stake for being a witch, and here's the Holy Spirit, you know, confirming truth after truth inside of it. One thing in particular stood out, and that was Ra was explaining that we seem to be in a physical reality, uh, but but that it's a it's a sensory uh it's a construct that's made by our our sensory channels, that the only thing that really exists is this waveform universal source energy that that's omnipresent. It it's it's everywhere. And when I read it, I really, really understood, both in my heart and in my head, or you could say I understood and I understood. And when I did, I I got hit just so powerful with the Holy Spirit, and the voice of God, which had been silent for many, many years, um, probably about five years, uh, boomed in in my eardrums. I I could hear it, it said, Good, now go outside and get away from people.

Rainbow Waveform Reality Appears

SPEAKER_01 13:13

So I did, I'm feeling this crazy energy at as I'm doing it, and and I go out back of the office that I worked at, and uh in in the parking lot, and as soon as I stopped walking, the whole world starts to shift and shimmer like just like heat coming off the black top on a hot summer's day, except that it was accompanied by rainbow hues of of light. It it was the most beautiful thing I'd I'd ever seen. And I was astonished, but my my inner self, like like my heart, recognized it. It was like I knew this place, I've been here before, and I know what to do. That's something that I knew what to do. These days I would call it opening my heart chakra, but back then it it was a feeling of like stepping out of your chest while opening it up. And as I did that, all of that rainbow rippling light energy comes into my body, and my body starts to dematerialize from my perception. I could see through my arms, that they were waveform energy, I could see through my body, and it was it was the most incredible, amazing feeling. But then I had a fear-based thought. I said to myself, what if I can't re-materialize? And the moment, like the exact moment that I had that thought, I got slammed back into physicality and into a physical perception. The waveform was was gone and my heart was beating out of my chest. And uh, yeah, that really stunned me to my core. And well, for two years after that, I pretty much cursed myself for a coward. It seemed that I was invited to heaven, but my own fear kicked me out. So I I sought the gateway to try to find that place uh again because God gave me that that experience. But as soon as I got scared, God took it away. So I wanted to find out. I knew that I could open this up myself. I I just knew it in in in my

Meditation Methods That Reopen The Gate

SPEAKER_01 15:16

heart. So I started learning meditation, uh, in particular brainwave reduction, theta meditation, lucid dream, the astral projection. And yeah, I I even had a few astral projections, a few successful out-of-body experiences, but it was about two years after that that I uh that I opened up to clairvoyance, what I now call uh a skill that anybody can learn, which is clairvoyance. And I I discovered it. I think the the lowered brain waves helped a lot learning to go into deep alpha and even in the theta brain waves with awaking consciousness. But what what finally cracked through the gate was uh just a completely relaxed mental posture. I've come to understand that a spiritual focus is the opposite of what we call um uh a a focus in physical. In in the physical, focus is is a concentrated, we take both sides of our hemispheres and dial them together to a single point. In spirit, to open up the spiritual perception, you do the opposite, you focus on nothing. Think about nothing, feel nothing, focus on nothing. So it was like vegging out to the max. I was just completely spaced out when all of a sudden the waveform came back, except this time I had control over it. So if I would relax my mind, the the waveform perception would get more uh prominent, and if I tightened my mind or reinitiated a physical focus, the waveform would would go away. I had a whole range that that I could perceive on. Like if I opened it up just a little bit, I could see auras around everything, and then if I went even further, I'd start to see flickering in in the air, and and then just waveform uh energy everywhere. And if I took it all the way, uh barely any physical reality at all. It look it looks like a ghosted hologram, and and what you see primarily is just this waveform spiritual energy. So this was what really kicked everything into high gear because now um I I could access the the supernatural, I could access God instead of just God accessing me. So for about a year after that, it it was my only hobby. I would get home from work, I would turn on my clairvoyance, and I would play around in the energy and and take notes. Uh I was slightly scientific about it. I did all sorts of tests to make sure that I wasn't hallucinating, and I learned how the energy behaves, how how does it react to thoughts, how does it react to feelings, how does it react to physical emotions, all sorts of things. This was like my my awakening to uh being an energy being, seeing the world and myself as energy instead of as the physical, like we're traditionally uh born and raised into, and most people never never penetrate. Uh yeah, about a year into that was when my next major shift in perception

Clairvoyance Turns Into Telekinesis

SPEAKER_01 18:24

happened. I I was just enjoying the clairvoyance, seeing the energy and interacting with it, when all of a sudden uh a deep presence from really deep in my heart rose to the surface and seemed to take over my voice box, and I found myself uttering the words, I am not the physical body, I am the light that flows out of it. And as soon as I spoke those words, all the waveform energy in the room collapsed into the center of my chest, and like a dying star going supernova, it exploded back outwards, except my consciousness went with it, and that was the big shift. So before this experience, I was a tiny little being of energy in a massive ocean of energy. Now I was the source of the energy that that I beheld, um, and it was an extension of my mind and my body. I could feel my being all the way to the walls in my room as much as I could feel myself inside the body. I I was inside the body and outside of it at the same time. And within about a week or two, I I realized that I was innately telekinetic, that that things beyond my body would respond to my mind for the same reason that your body does, because because it's a part of you. Uh so I wouldn't say that I had control over the elements, but I had a definite influence with the wind, uh, with water, with the atmosphere. I I got all these demonstrations on YouTube, but yeah, once once I realized that that I had that, I knew that I had something that needed to be shared with the world. Before with the clairvoyance, it was like a a private experience, and and I couldn't prove to anybody, you know, w what I was experiencing. But once I became telekinetic, I I was able to demonstrate, to show people in person or through video that I have an authentic connection to something supernatural, uh what what I call spirit. And that's when I f uh founded the Avatar Energy Mastery Institute, made all of my course materials, started doing podcasts, and fast forward to now, um, I've been at this 15 years, trained thousands of people from all disciplines and walks of life. It's actually a lot simpler than you would think to open up to all of this because spirit is what we are. Uh becoming an energy master or studying energy mastery is really a remembrance of your true self. I can testify that every single human walking around is a spirit that's inside of their body that's so hypnotized and entrained by the electrical sensory data that they're not even aware that they're a spirit. But this is the force that actually moves your body. Like like the brain will send electricity to the muscles, and those muscles will flex, but it's the polarity of you moving your spirit inside of your body that seamlessly does that. So my work is all about giving people an authentic connection to their spirit and spiritualizing their physical experience to where they have a permanent perception of their spiritual nature while remaining it in the physical reality, and that's been my my mission and and my purpose since two thousand eleven.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

And that's my story.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Wow. My um my brain is exploding. Um like who for example Excited. I got like chills and like pricks and like pinching feeling and numbing, and I'm like, oh my god, this guy is so interesting. Like, wow. I could pick your brain for like thousands of years. I'm like as you were talking, I'm listening, I'm like writing down all these questions, and I'm like, oh my god, I already have like 55 questions. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a lot. Oh, I love this. This is amazing. So my first question is, how did you come across my podcast?

SPEAKER_01 22:34

I have a team that w uh wa watches out for shows that they think are are aligned with me, and then they make an introduction, and if it interest is shown, then I take over and and that's where you met me.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

That's awesome. That's cool. I like it. Um wow, so oh my goodness, I don't know where to start.

Religion Versus Direct Experience Of God

SPEAKER_00 22:55

So you are, I would say, spiritual and religious in a way, right? Both kind of.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Yes, ex uh uh I I I would read religion has a very negative tank given the religions that that have come into our world. It's been a system of domination and control and actually geared to keep people from becoming spirit. But what what religion always should have been is spiritual people coming together in common truths, the common experience and and helping each other to get authentically closer to to the divine, to God, to the supernatural, to the earth, to the sun, you know, to to everything. So I am religious in in the sense that I devote my energy mastery practice to God, uh, but but my understanding of what God is transcends uh any traditional biblical understanding.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

Okay. Okay, yeah, because I mean I always kind of struggled with religion growing up. Like my mom grew up Catholic, my dad grew up Lutheran, my brother and I weren't we were baptized as Lutheran, but we didn't practice, of course. So um my mom said she would never raise us Catholic uh because of everything that she kind of endured, you know, during that time. And you know, I had I had an aunt that um taught catechism actually in the same neighborhood that I still live in, right? And uh you know, she always wanted me to go to church, you know, at certain times. And I did, and everybody was nice, but uh throughout my life, I think I always felt like church itself, like churches were very culty, and I didn't like how um what's the word I've never fit in a box, right? I'll never fit in a box. I mean you can tell by my podcast I don't fit in a box. I have a lot of different topics on here. It's not just paranormal, it's not just scary, it's it's it's it's a lot of things, right? A lot of different topics. And I just always felt like that was kind of how religion was for me. I was always more spiritual like my grandma. I always had a lot of faith. I'm more um, you know, being a Virgo, I'm just uh molded into this, I think, Mother Earth more than I am like praying in a church, right? I do my my prayers are dead, right? So I really I really enjoyed this because it it was very I think it was so exciting um li listening to you about God and um the you know the holiness and ster still being like very spiritual and also messing with some a you know astral projection and you know Reiki, like I like all that and meditating, I think that's cool that you can put that all together, and I think it it should be more that way. I think it would make people more comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

You absolutely can, yeah.

OBEs Through Surrender And Reiki Talk

SPEAKER_01 25:46

During about out of body experience number fifty, I learned something really valuable. I I was out of my body, and and and and and and all my self-explorations, I didn't really get in anywhere. I didn't know what to do, I wasn't meeting intelligent beings, um uh the worlds that I was in just seemed like meaningless. When I I remember, well, God is inside of me and in the Holy Spirit. So I levitate up in the air in my astral body, and I just knew that God is inside of me, so I just said, take me where I need to go. And then I relax my energy, and God grabs me from the inside and the out with with the Holy Spirit and just whisps me through the stars like at light speed and places me on another world, and and that's when things really got uh exciting. I've had over a thousand OBEs since then, and uh all of them after about number fifty, I've let the Holy Spirit take me wherever I need to go. And it's traveled me to all these star worlds, to all these amazing places. I've met extraterrestrial races, I've met angels, I've met demons, uh, I've met both spectrums. Uh, but it's just amazing that uh that we can have this type of relationship with with the supreme, with with the divine, you know, that it that it's possible to uh to have that level of interaction, you know, knowledge that that this is real.

SPEAKER_00 27:14

This is that's that's amazing. Now, are you also a Reiki master?

SPEAKER_01 27:20

I've never traditionally studied Reiki, but I I've had a lot of Reiki masters go through my course and they say that uh that it's compatible. There's nothing incompatible uh with it except Reiki's very traditional. Like like what I teach is just uh a full connection to the energy, and then you just do whatever you want with it, where Reiki has structure and and a system to it.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Now I'd like to share a story about that really quick. Um I always thought Reiki was oh, sorry, my nephew was calling me my other one. Um I always thought I used to laugh at my friend because she was like Reiki, and I'm like, Yeah, yeah, whatever. Okay, so we go to this paracon in Ohio and um one of the ladies was a Reiki master there. Actually, we're the um the movie Sha Shank Redemption, right? Is that what it's yeah?

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

So we went there though the Ohio Reformatory, I think it is. And she was doing Reiki in one of the jail cells, and uh my friend had was getting it done and I said, you know what, help it, I'll try it too, whatever. Let me tell you, I was under no drugs, not drinking, nothing. And it was the most uh it was the best high I've ever had without being high. It completely changed like my life and how I view things. It was just the best hour I've I've ever had. I mean, I was like flying through like orange and yellow, and then she was like, she used some type of feather thing with smoke, and then I like she said that it it actually could feel me like lifting from the table. I mean it was just it was an awesome experience. I was nervous going into it, but I was not nervous at all while I had had it done. I mean, it was just the best thing ever. I felt like I had gotten an hour-long massage, which never touched me. Um I felt very clear, my head was clear, I felt like I could breathe better. I even journaled everything after because I wanted to make sure that I remembered that experience, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 29:31

And uh pretty effective.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

It was insane. And I guess now the VA is actually gonna start recognizing some forms of Reiki. And then I have been reading up on they want to actually they they do have evidence that Reiki and energy healing can cure cancer. Certain cancers can help cure it. That's great.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Sometimes, yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

So I I love it. I love reading stuff.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Yeah. Yeah, we're in new times. We're we're in a day and age where it won't be long before spirit is a common understanding, but I believe that your average person will be aware of their spirit within the next twenty to fifty years.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Cool. Now, I noticed that um so David Wilcock, that's that's a that's a whole nother conversation um on all those scientists.

Death, Conspiracy, And Three Perspectives

SPEAKER_00 30:29

I will ask you this. What do you feel? Do you feel he you know let's just say passed away like naturally? Do you think he was set up? I mean, do you think that they are setting up these people that are spreading? I'll just say spreading news and spreading what they're finding out.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

It depends on which angle you you you look at it from, right? So uh from from the physical angle, uh that that stuff happens. Uh um, you know, obviously there's good people, there's there's bad people. Um, and even if he did kill himself, you know, that that's not not a good choice. If you zoom out one layer of spirit and call it fourth dimension, then you see negative spirits working, manipulating, planning, positive spirits doing the best they can to intervene and set things right. You see like this galactic spiritual war, you know, angels and demons, positive E.T.s, negative ETs, uh, doing their thing. You zoom out one way or past that, now you're in in what I call the fifth dimension or the higher mind of God, and you see it all as one great play where where everything's doing its part to move the entire thing forwards for maximizing spiritual growth, which which is what suffering does. So it's important, I think, whenever you're examining these things to see all three angles. And I know some people they'll jump up to that high viewpoint, and then all of a sudden they'll think it's that that we shouldn't be struggling against evil. They'll see the symphony of perfection, and then they'll set their instrument down and not even play their part anymore. And I don't believe in that. I believe the light should overcome the darkness, and and that once you see that it's all divine and perfect, you know, you you should do your best to uh like I it's the job of good to overcome evil. So yeah, w with with David, uh it's either a case uh of um his soul wanted him back, you know, so it it'll orchestrate or it'll give in to to a negative being that wants to to intervene in in a certain way that'll further certain uh agendas. Uh, you know, if if you zoom out far enough, all all deaths are are a suicide. You know, we all choose like from that higher place when it's our time to go. So I don't know for sure, but I I deal in probabilities and and those are are the highest probabilities.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Okay. All right, and then um I know that you brought up like the Mayan calendar.

2012, Quantum Shifts, Mandela Effect

SPEAKER_00 33:08

So in 2012, do you are you on the same board that you do believe that like the world that we knew essentially ended and maybe we, you know, quantum leaped or we went into some new portal?

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah, uh I do, except I believe that it happens all the time. Oh not just 2012. Yeah. There there's um it it happens more frequently than we I mean, if you want to get really down to the nitty-gritty, there there's a new universe, every beat of the heart. I I've seen it, but usually it's so much like the old one that you wouldn't even tell th that it's a new one. But occasionally we get shifts that are that are so profound. But yeah, that uh i it it it has to do with with astral perception. We're in a time perception, right? The clock ticks slow, sixty seconds a minute, tick, tick, tick, tick, one heartbeat approximately, you know, every second. When when you get really good at the astral projection, you can go out into accelerated time. Uh you you can be out of your body for like a week and come back to your body and only minutes have passed. Uh I've been out of my body in an alternate reality and spent three years and and came back when I got bored of the experience and only hours had had passed here. So I I believe this is happening like like always and that occasionally we catch a a a wave, you know, we catch a ride and things uh can shift sort of dramatically. Like like we're seeing a lot of that with uh what do they call that? The Mandela effect. Uh-huh. That is actually getting more ridiculous, like like ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

That's what it was making me get so so saying that you actually answered into my next question about 2020. Do you feel like that was such a big leap that people actually okay, that's really changed it up? I think from 2020 we're still not healed. And I think some of us have moved on to other levels and other people have not leveled up, and it's not like it's so much of a physical. It's I mean it is physical, but you know what I mean? It's more like um, how do I, you know, how do I well you could explain it better. You know what I'm trying to say, right? Like not everybody leveling up.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Right. Well well they did in potential, but they they haven't realized it in in actuality yet, right? Because we're all on the same frequency that uh in a co-creation together, but they're still holding old patterns and they're incapable of perceiving the new frequencies, so yeah, definitely in a way.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

Now I know that I've I've heard you um mention angels quite a few

Fallen Angels, Demons, And Integration

SPEAKER_00 35:51

times. Now, how do you feel about fall fallen angels?

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Oh, that's what demons are.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Okay. And that's like 'cause I I still have to um order that book. It's Book of Is it Book of Enoch, right? Have you read that?

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yeah. Uh I've skimmed it. My partner read it and she told me all about it, so I know the story of the Fallen Watchers.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Now, do you truly believe that a human can be demonic, or do you do you think it's spiritual, or do you think it's more like a behavior, you know?

SPEAKER_01 36:25

It's it's it's both. So uh humans can create demons from their thoughts and from unintegrated emotions, and these can hop from body to body as negative energies, they can gain in mass and they can gain in density, and they'll feed on the type of emotion that that spawned them, and and it can get really bad in very high states of clairvoyance. I've I've watched dark spirits flying through houses, and as it goes through the first house, uh wife starts yelling at husband and throwing dishes around the kitchen, goes to the next house like I'm watching it with with my spirit on, goes inside of a baby, baby cries out screaming, and and yeah, i I I watch this thing move through like three different houses and saw the reaction to it uh in in each house. Um I don't want to alarm anybody, but um uh spirit precedes all thoughts and action. Before we have a thought or before we take an action, there's first a movement in spirit in the energy. So every thought that we have, every action that we take comes from the positive or the negative. So your average person is is working with a minimum of like five to ten dark spirits and and hopefully a balance of good spirits at at the same time. You you can see it in people's personality shifts. Like when you really get to know somebody really well, you'll notice that they're acting from like different primary aspects, you know, throughout the day. And certain things can trigger different aspects in them, and they almost like become a different person based on these triggers. And and that's w what that is. A big part of what I teach is is integration through opening up to to the spirits that are working through you and choosing love, choosing to love whichever spirits are are working in you, and and this love force is like a joining force. So so it makes the self which was sort of fragmented before a lot more whole and and a lot more complete. Now there's also demons that are evolved beings that that hold their own space that were not just created by humans. And I I d I don't have enough data to know for sure. I know some of them come from they were physical and and they made dark choices and they they vibe w with dark energy. Uh here in the physical reality, we we're in a yin-yang reality, a light and dark reality. So good people can exist right alongside of bad people. But in spirit, it doesn't work like that. Whatever vibration you're holding and choosing, you go to a plane that that has that vibrational representation. So going to hell isn't a sentence that some judgmental God puts on you, it's your choice and the law of attraction that that takes you there. And I know because I've been to hell like many hundreds of times, like a large portion of my out-of-body experiences uh are are just that, and I teach there and and I heal there, but I I've been through all the levels of it, and I can also testify that everybody travels out of body every single night. That's where you go when you sleep, and dreams are are a translation of of that, and we have aspects of spirit that are in the lower planes, we have aspects of spirit that are in the higher planes, and this is where dreams or or nightmares come from. They're they're rough translations of of what we experienced on the other side of the veil, but you can go to the lower realms, also known as hell, and talk to people that are alive today, and this is where they go when they sleep because they're polarized in in that direction. And and same thing with the light realms or or the heavenly realms.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

Wow. Wow, that's so that that um so that brings me to my

Hybrids And The Universal Embodiment

SPEAKER_00 40:37

next question. Do you believe that there are humans um walking amongst us everywhere that are a hybrid of some type of other interdimensional being?

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Well, that's what's what's really interesting from from all of my travels. Uh, I can't say to know this empirically, but it's very high, and my heart knows it. Like, but experientially, my my metaphysician, my my my geek, um, he can't claim to know this empirically, but but but my heart does, and that is that uh Earth i is the the universal embodiment, and so uh what that means to most people is is that beings from all over the universe are incarnated here, you know, galactics, extraterrestrials, the avians, the grays, the Arcurians, the Pleiadians, you know, so on and so forth. And that's a partial truth, but it it's not the big picture. The human is the universal embodiment, which means each one of us is the universe embodied. What I've found through all these experiences is is that we have an aspect of consciousness on every single star world that exists. So you have a reptilian, you have an avian, you have a Pleiadian, an arterian, so on and so forth. And and some of these are high enough consciousness to be what you would call interdimensional, so they can interact with with with the earth aspect w with with us, which is extremely dense. It's a lot of energy, it it's it's a lot of uh mass. And so that that's what I think is going on here is people channeling these aspects of of themselves and accessing that type of nature, which is either a higher nature or more base, more you know, more reptilian in nature. But from all of my travels I I've seen that that we all have an aspect on on every single star world there is, and and some of these aspects are interdimensional, and some of some of us have become interdimensional our ourselves to where we can visit their worlds as well.

SPEAKER_00 42:51

So that brings me to my next question about Rh negative blood type. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_01 43:00

I don't know. I I haven't um I haven't researched it, but I think I've heard people say that they believe it's the Christed bloodline. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Well, that it was it was mixed. Hold on, let me look this up. Because I mean, I remember all the videos that I have seen, but there's like so much about it. But anyways, when I was, you know, I just had a baby 11 months ago. And I can tell you this that because my husband was in the Marine Corps and he had some like medical background a little bit. And anytime I would go to the actor, they would never tell me my blood type. Like every time I go get my blood drawn, I'd be like, hey, my husband really wants to know what blood type I am, I don't know. I know I used to donut blood in high school, but they never like told me right. And they were like, Oh, that's a separate, that's a separate um uh checkup, or that's a separate this, that's blah, blah, blah. So I would message my my chart, you know, through Henry Ford's hospital and you know, wherever I go through and say. Hey, you guys just did blood work on me. Can you just send over what type of blood I am? And they would be like, no, that's got a separate appointment. I'm like, what the hell? So finally I find out when I'm pregnant, right? And um, of course I'm Rh negative, and it it does some of the things that I have read up on. It's so funny because I've had so many strange things happen, like medically, that um I'm just like, wow, that kind of makes sense, right? So I didn't know if you have done any research on that or if you've looked into that.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

No, I haven't, yeah. So I I don't have anything to report on that.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

But now they're saying supposedly that it's like mixed, it could be mixed, like they're basically like calling people with RH negative blood like aliens, and I'm like, well, aren't we all aliens? So we are yeah. So basically it's just like 15% of the global population will have that blood type. Um I know they said something about like Christ, and it wasn't it happened after evolutionary genetics of human uh. But anyways, we'll get into that another maybe another time when we talk because I do have a lot of something to it. Yeah, I have a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

A lot of people don't understand that, but even well, I can testify to this as an energy master who's who's inside and outside of the body at the same time. The human body has been my greatest template for growth by projecting out of the nerves and and the stories that the electricity tells, right? We we perceive ourselves to be physical beings, but that's the sensory matrix. It's it's the matrix that we're in. People are always talking about the matrix. The matrix, well, you're in the matrix, it's your nervous system and your neurons that are force feeding sensory data to your consciousness that tells you you're a physical being. You know, that we're made of bones and bags of water and blood and and we're heavy and and we're dense. That's a a sensory impairment. It's it's it's it's a construct. A lot of people say illusion, but I I don't like that word because it's it's a bit ir irreverent, it but it is a construct. Um the the universal waveform source energy is the great truth that that's behind everything. So what I found is is that the human body is is a great greater density of energy than the spirit from which we came. We come from a lighter density, and lighter does not mean superior, contrary to popular belief, because E equals MC squared. We we know that from Einstein. So, yes, the human body is is a great density and seems a burden at first, but as you begin to project your consciousness through it and get out of the sensory data that the nerves are telling you, you end up discovering about the body the same thing science has, that it's many, many tiny little buzzing, vibrating, orbiting particles that aren't even touching each other. This this is a body of light, it's just a whole lot of it, so much so that we're not ready for it yet. We borrow the body through the nerves that our subtle spirit can can interact with. But yeah, the the human body i is is the greatest template for growth that that I found.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Okay. Okay, now here's another one.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

So so that means something, the blood, that's why I was saying it. So I don't know what it means yet, uh, though I I do caution to try try to stay balanced towards anything that points to you being special, because that can be a uh a trap all its own. Everybody is special, like obviously. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:46

I mean, I just wonder, because I've always like loved anything aliens, UFOs, I mean, since I was little and uh my mom always freaked out about it, and I'd say, Mom, one day, you know, you're gonna turn on the news and it's gonna be normal. And that was back when I was like, you know, nine, ten, eleven years old. And I'll be 38 in September. So um I just think it's kind of funny. I think it's cool, like if if people were like hybrids. I mean, i there I mean, there this goes back to like Egyptians with aliens for me too, you know what I mean? So I have my theories, like everybody does out there, but I just want to know your thoughts on it.

UFO Orbs And Paradigm Protection

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Yeah, I've I've seen that each sphere is is protected from the inside out because a sphere of reality is perception-based. So um I I've been to these star worlds and they have their own like protection. Like, like we could never invade a star world and take it over. It's their paradigm. They were born on that paradigm. They will always be masters and keepers of of their own paradigm. Um, only by by a paradigm surrendering itself could it possibly be taken over by something else. So I believe in in the visitation, but I don't believe in in physical manifestation, not not not physical level, but I do know the physical level can be mimicked, or or people can think that they're in a physical level perception when it's when it's actually spirit. I've I've seen that many times. Um, and I've also seen a lot of UFOs in in in my experience, in particular the light ships, you know, the the orbs of bright light. I've been around communities that could summon them. And they all thought that they would take a ride on on one of these someday, that it would come to the ground and pick them up. But when they summoned the ships, uh being that I was inside, outside my body at the same time, I noticed that I could effortlessly take over any one of these UFOs and and make it move where wherever I wanted to. So I knew that it wasn't a physical level craft, but it was undeniably a spiritual pr uh presence that could take you a ride in in another way. It could take you out of your body, you know, and and and take you out in in another way. So I stay open-minded to it, but I do believe that each sphere is is righteously protected uh to be the steward, the gatekeeper of its own paradigm.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Okay.

CE5, Meditation, And Contact Experiences

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Now, being being big on meditation, have you ever used the um Dr. Grare CE5 app? It's also known as Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. Okay. Because I started using that, I think, four years ago. And that that's it's for meditation. Um it brings, you know, you can do it alone, you can do it with other people, it's for mental, visual, um, auditory communication, and it's a protocol that's been pioneered by Dr. Steven Greer. I have had a couple experiences with it. Um one was with three other people, so they witnessed it too, and then the other one was by myself actually in my driveway. It's a really cool app. I really like it. Um it's pretty layered. It's got a few different like four, maybe four different levels of it, you know, like what it does for you in the app. Um it does help with meditation, so I don't know. I just thought I'd bring that up because he just actually has a new documentary on Amazon that I watched that was pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

Cool. Yeah. Alright, I'll make a strong mental note of that. CE5.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

CE5, yep. Also known as Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. Okay. So let's see. Oh, and if you don't mind me asking, what eye was it that you had that incident with? Was it your right or your left? Uh left eye. Left eye? Yeah. I had an experience with my left eye too about four years ago. It's crazy. That's why I was like, when you were telling me this story, I'm like, whoa, this is and then I was like, oh, where is this going? Did he did he have to get a fake eye? And then when you said that it was healed, I was like, oh my god. Because I almost lost my left eye too. So um it was scary. It was a very scary situation, but I'm I feel very blessed. Very, very blessed.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

Yeah, imagine if I didn't pray. Imagine if I called 919 instead, I'd have been fucked.

SPEAKER_00 52:20

Yeah, you'd have been well, one eye, only one Michael with one eye. Right? One eyed Michael.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I got one eye, but it's by it's by choice. It's my inner eye when I when I want to open it.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

Right, right. Yeah, you know, I mean, I didn't really learn about uh my third eye until like my very early thirties.

ADHD As A Trainable Spiritual Strength

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Um I really kind of started practicing and learning how to calm down because I'm a person with ADHD, I don't know if you can tell, like I'm super hyper over the phone. Like I'm a very hyper person, so uh meditation did not be easy to be, right? I kinda had to put myself an adult timeout and you know, really learn how to slow down and you know, do some bad breathing tactics, right? Um with the 11 months old, it's not as easy to do medication like I used to.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

So Oh no, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

It will get better. You know, he's kind of like in his crawling, kind of standing, almost walking, you know, he's into everything. So Yeah, but um wow, this is so interesting. Now, is there any anything else you want to add or do you got questions or Well, I was gonna say something that that might help you.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

W what what I teach in my courses is that the mind is actually made to stay busy. So instead of fighting against it, w what I teach is a series of of extrasensory perceptions that you that you train your your mind to, and then instead of keeping your mind busy with thoughts, you keep it busy with extrasensory perceptions, so so you engage the mind at a very f fast pace, actually, but it's all geared towards what you're feeling, uh, not what you're thinking, and and that might take your your mind state and make it into a superpower in instead of something that you have to overcome.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

Okay. I like that. Do you um do you think there's a reason why more like some people are born more like very hyper, more prone to ADHD than others?

SPEAKER_01 54:33

Well, it's a it's a very high functioning mind, um, uh, which is is your consciousness to it's a it's a talent to be able to work at at high speeds. And when you work at high speeds like that, you get addicted to the feelings. So so you use your accelerated thought to provide yourself with a plethora of complicated emotional reactions uh inside. But as you learn to harness that in in different directions and focus it in on extrasensory perception, you can have massively increased mental activity, but you're more like a a Jedi, you know, like from Star Wars, where where they're so present. Like I don't ever think it anymore. Um, I've truly mastered my mind uh in in this way. So thinking for me is an option and not something that I do often. And intelligent talk to me would be like, what are we going to have di for dinner? Now that's something worth thinking about, you know, or what movie would you like to watch? That that's a good time to engage the brain. Apart from that, if I'm talking like I am right now or or listening to somebody talk, I don't think about what they're saying, I don't think about what I'm going to say. I'm present in in the source field and all the extra sensory information, then I just know what to do next. I just know what to say, I just know what to do, and and it's a far better organizer than if I was just super Mr. Beta brain with my Google Calendar and all these apps and every you know, like I can just pay attention to the to the energy and and act instinctually, and it ends up being a a much more divine symphony than I could ever put together with my brain.

SPEAKER_00 56:19

Nice. I'm actually on your page right now. This is very interesting. Do you have do you own a monkey?

SPEAKER_01 56:27

No, no, that was a visit to South America.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

That's awesome. I know some people here in Michigan that have monkeys, that's why I was wondering.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

Okay. That's so cool. I have a Dash Hun puppy. Oh. He's the love of my life.

SPEAKER_00 56:43

Aww. Now, do you have any children?

SPEAKER_02 56:47

No.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

No. That's okay. That's the uh the this experience, the experience of your life is your children, right? And all your work. That's that's like having babies.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

It's true. Yes, it is very very much true. Uh spiritually speaking, I I'm a father. I have a really big soul family of which I'm an elder in, so I I've got the a lot of that going on. I knew in my twenties it wasn't my life, my heart knew that I that I wouldn't be having children this life. And so part of me is sad about that, but most of me uh accepts it.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

Right. Well, that's I thought I was the same way. I actually had a baby late. I didn't it was a very, very beautiful surprise, but yeah, you never know where life's gonna take you, you know.

SPEAKER_02 57:38

Yeah. That that's the glory of it.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

So where are you

Travel Life And Why Bali Wins

SPEAKER_00 57:43

located at? What state are you in?

SPEAKER_01 57:47

Uh well, I've been traveling uh the world since twenty nineteen. So I I haven't had a home in a long time. Right now I'm in Quebec. Um I spend a lot of time in in Indiana, that's where my mother lives. Um South America, Bali, uh Austria. I've been all all over. Yeah, yeah. And and I'm gonna keep traveling for about another ten years, find my favorite spots and um, you know, hopefully have enough uh income to buy buy a house or two in my favorite spots and and then homestead. But yeah, I I travel for now.

SPEAKER_00 58:28

Now where has where has been your favorite place to travel?

SPEAKER_01 58:33

Bali by far.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

Bali, okay.

SPEAKER_01 58:36

Bali wa Bali was amazing. Yeah, it was it's just a type of life that you can live there on a thousand dollars a month. You can live a nice upper middle class life. You can have a a rice field view, terraced rice fields, or an ocean front view, uh all organic, locally produced food, um for like a thousand dollars a month, and and the people, they're just the best, kindest hearted, true spiritual people. And you know, Thailand's a hop, skip, and a jump away, uh so much to to do. Yeah, it's just a really nice culture. I I love that the Balinese culture hasn't been perverted by Western culture. You know, they they hold to their spirituality and their government protects their culture from being too uh changed by by ours and and I really like that. Parts of Thailand are really beautiful too, but they're they've allowed their culture to become corrupted by by the Western culture and and being appealing to it, you know, with the prostitution and drugs and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

Oh wow. So where where can everyone find you online?

Where To Find Michael Online

SPEAKER_00 59:53

Do you want to go ahead and give a shout-out to how they can be able to do that?

SPEAKER_01 59:56

Yeah, I I have a bio site that links to my other other websites. My teachings are in two different directions. One is pure self-empowerment, that's the Avatar Energy Mastery Institute. And and in the Avatar course, I I don't teach any philosophy, I don't teach morals, I don't teach about God, I teach about you and you and your spirit and straight techniques, how to become clairvoyant, how to have the out-of-body experience, how to remember your spirit from within the body, become telekinetic, all all of that stuff. And then I have the metaphysical church of the tree of life, which is all about coupling energy mastery with devotion to God. And I kept them separate so people can make that choice. You know, I I don't expect everybody to see things the way that I do, so I kept the energy mastery separate from the spiritual philosophy. But both of those are available at uh under my bio site at michael monk.bio. That's M-I-C-H-A-E-L-M-O-N-K dot B-I-O.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:08

Okay, thank you. And then one more thing. I've noticed that you've been on Coast to Coast too, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:15

Yes, yes, I do I was two winters ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:19

Yeah, and they that so you were on their podcast. They have a podcast now.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

Yes, uh well, I I was um I was on the radio show. Um I I I think they recorded it as as a podcast too. Yeah, it was with George Nori.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:35

Yeah, I love him. I've I've really been a fan of of his show for a long time since I was younger. It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

Me too, in in the younger days, which was really, you know, I never imagined that I would be on the show.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

That's so cool. I love that. Now, do you have any questions for me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

No, I'm I'm good. It feels like this is a good sharing, and and I'm grateful that you had me on.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

Oh, I'm so grateful you came out. I you know, everything is about experiences, right? That's what life's about. And uh that's really why I started a podcast. And uh, like I like I always say, I just I love to hear people's stories. I love to hear people talk and take in as much as I can from other people, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:20

Yeah, yeah, and I and I love sharing, so it's quite symbiotic.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

That's awesome. Well, Michael, I would love to have you back on. Um, any new work that you have going on in the future, like a new travel, new destination that you were at, that maybe even a new experience that you've, you know, because I know you're always having experiences.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

Um I'd like to offer you uh access to my courses if if you would be curious to learn, and that would be cool to um uh come back on after you've done some of the materials.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

I actually I have you pulled up and I'm look I was looking through them and I'm like, this is yeah, I think this is something I I need to try.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:03

I I'm very it'll massively enhance uh i everything that you that you already know. It's a very uh dare I say college level education. It has a foundation, and then something's built on top of that foundation, and on top of that foundation. And no matter what discipline you're from, it it'll help us to make more sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:25

I would love that. I would love to have even more clarity, and it you're just I'm so intrigued by you going through your bio here and your um page, I'm like, wow, there's just so much on here. Again, you guys, he has you know, three on his page, a Michael Monk bio, right? Um there's a metaphysical church of the tree of life and Avatar Energy Mastery Institute. And um his story is on here, and it's very interesting. And I'm sure anyone that's uh gonna listen to this is is definitely gonna check you out for sure. I mean, how can you not? You're just filled with like all kinds of information. It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:08

It is to say the least.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:11

Well, Michael, I appreciate you coming on here and sharing your experiences with us. And uh yes, I will definitely be looking into your work, and you know, I wanna I want to go through some classes myself, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

Great. Well, just uh sign up for the free course, and then when you're done with that, uh just email me and remind me of the offer, and then I'll I'll set you up with what comes next.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:36

Awesome. Thank you so much again. It was nice meeting you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

Thank you, Melissa. Take care and I'm staying. God bless you.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:43

You too. Thank you. Bye bye.