
Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis
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Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis
Behind the Scenes: Teddy Long's Ring Stories and Abdullah's Book Drama
The celebration of wrestling history takes center stage as the hosts announce that Herb Simmons will be inducted into the St. Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame for the class of 2026. When Simmons joins the conversation, we're treated to a fascinating yet troubling behind-the-scenes look at a publishing controversy involving Abdullah the Butcher. According to Simmons, Abdullah collaborated on an autobiography but isn't receiving royalties from sales. The discussion highlights the ongoing challenges wrestling legends face even after their in-ring careers end.
WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long shines throughout with his signature candor and humor, sharing untold stories from his illustrious career. He reveals the organic origin of his famous "one-on-one with the Undertaker" catchphrase—a spontaneous moment that caught Vince McMahon's attention—and recounts how Big Show once threw him from the ring without warning. When asked about "ring rats" (wrestling groupies), Long provides a straightforward explanation of this aspect of wrestling's road culture that many fans have heard about but few understand. The episode reaches peak entertainment when Long shares an unprintable yet hilarious story about Big Daddy V and Viagra that will leave listeners in stitches.
and we certainly hope everyone has a fantastic fourth of july independence day no, you do not wish everybody have a fancy, nothing come on. You're right. There are some people, I hope have a horrible weekend well, well, they must be related to you. Hello everybody, Welcome to an all-new Wrestling's Road Trip After Hours. I'm your host, Mike Davis, and that, of course, is Mr WWE Hall of Famer, Teddy Long.
Speaker 2:And you're wondering what I'm doing. I'm trying to get my light on here.
Speaker 1:I was wondering what you're doing. He waited. We had that entire opening. He could have done that, but no, no, no, he's gonna sit here and mess with it while we go live. Uh, we're trying to get by the way.
Speaker 1:We're there we go, I got it oh yeah, now just get the camera on you. There you go there, you old peanut head, okay, hey, look here, teddy, I you know the last time we talked uh on on the show last week I was telling you I was getting ready to go in for that surgery uh from a shoulder and a tricep and bicep. Brother, you know me, I hate taking pain medication. I don't trust it. It just scares the hell out of me. So I'm one of those guys that just I'll just deal with the pain.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh boy, they gave me a, uh, a nerve block in the arm. You know, when I got that nerve block, I was like, oh man, I'm doing good. Yeah, I was good here now. And uh, it ended up that that nerve block only lasts about maybe 48 hours if you're lucky. And when it wore off, brother, those pain pills came into play real quick. It's the only way I could get any sleep. I went almost a day and a half with zero sleep and finally I just took one of the pain pills because I play real quick, it's the only way we had to get any sleep. I went almost a day and a half with zero sleep and finally I just took one of the pain pills because I was tired.
Speaker 2:You got to have them, man, I'm telling you that pain is unreal.
Speaker 1:Absolutely incredible, but it's better now, thank goodness. It's just got to take time to heal Bill Abder's wife, by the way. She had the same surgery done on her shoulder and they caught me up in the middle of the night last night because she was in a lot of pain. I said it's that nerve block's wearing off, but he's having to play nursemaid for his wife. So I feel sorry for my poor wife. I keep going in there like can you help me get the shirt on? Can you help me get up, you know, get some deodorant under my arm, because I couldn't lift my arm hard enough. And oh my God, it's just. But we're trying to. We were hoping we'd have Herb Simmons in here with us tonight, but Herb's having a hard time getting connected through the link we sent and it's the same link that Teddy's using. So I'm not exactly sure what issue he may be having.
Speaker 2:Well, I think Herb is, you know, I think he's relapsed.
Speaker 1:No, is you know? I think he's relapsed. No, no, no, don't say that. Look, I do want to say something. I was hoping he'd be in here when I did this, but I do want to make an announcement, just tell him to put the bottle down Herb.
Speaker 2:If you've relapsed, just be truthful with yourself, okay, and just call us after you get about three or four more in, then I know you're ready.
Speaker 1:I do want to mention. You know, we go to the St Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame and the SICW Fan Fest every year since its beginning and it's been a fantastic family of people that we're there with every year, including Herb Simmons, who I was hoping, like I said, to have on the show, and I just heard and got the announcement last week and I wanted to make the announcement when he was with us live, but I got to do it now because it's already public anyhow. But, teddy, you may not have seen this and a lot of people may not know, but look at this, mr Herb Simmons, let's see it's not sitting up there, right? We can't get it? Hang on for a minute, hang on, I'll get this right.
Speaker 1:Teddy, this is driving me crazy. There we go, there we go, there we go, there we go. Here's Herb Simmons. He is going into the St Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame. He has been entered in for the class of 2026. And, teddy, I can't think of a better person when it comes to the St Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame. What a better person to go in, the guy who basically, you know, keeps that era of wrestling alive, a guy who basically keeps that era of wrestling alive.
Speaker 2:Well, he's put everybody else in, so why not do it for himself? And I just want to say congratulations to him. I mean you couldn't give it to a better person, one of the greatest and nicest promoters that I've ever known, and a guy that's always been fair. You know what I mean. It's a guy that you could trust, and there ain't too many of them in this business, but Herb Simmons is one of them. So congratulations to you, Herb.
Speaker 1:Also, let me make mention that we had a t-shirt giveaway. I didn't have the picture last week. I do have it this week. I don't want to share that with you as well. This is one of our t-shirt winners where you ask questions later on the show and if Teddy chooses your question as the question of the week, you get a free Road Trip After Hours t-shirt. This is one of our recent winners and this is Mr Buddy Buddy with his Road Trip After Hours t-shirt. I understand he loves that shirt and we're happy that he won.
Speaker 2:We love Mr Buddy.
Speaker 1:Oh, we do. Buddy is somebody that, if you're in the Southern region for wrestling and independent wrestling, Buddy is the guy that it seems like he's at every show. His mother gets him around to these shows and lets him enjoy professional wrestling on the independent level. I've seen him even at WWE shows. I think he's going to as well. Really a great fan and happy to see him wearing that shirt. All right, Teddy, since Herb just messaged me saying he still can't get in, so we'll have to hopefully get him on another show.
Speaker 2:Well, we could just kind of mention it. We just wanted to really get Herb Simmons in to talk to us about. There's something going around now about Abdullah. The Butcher has written a book and he teamed up with somebody, and the person that he teamed up with to write the book, I think they went on and started selling the book and making money off the book and they're not giving Abdullah not one penny of it, and so Herb knows a lot about that and he was going to come in and tell us about it. So if we can't get him this week, maybe we'll get him next week or maybe we can get him to record something for us and tell us a little bit about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that's unfortunate. When somebody takes advantage of somebody else in that way, especially you're using someone's name, their likeness, you're writing books about them and suddenly the agreements you make don't last, that's not good business, not good business at all. So anytime we can expose bad business, I have no issue with that. As long as we know that it's bad business, I want everybody to know. Stay away. You had some history with Abdul thea the Butcher. Teddy, let me just ask you while we got a couple minutes, here was Abdua for you. I know you had told me a story one time where you took your wife Was it your wife? To his house to have dinner Is that who it was? Or something and he thought you were bringing in a side piece with you maybe.
Speaker 2:No, no, thought you were bringing in a side, uh, a side piece with you, maybe. No, no, what it was? Uh, before I uh married my deceased wife tasha, uh, my son antoine's mother I've only had two, uh, antoine's mother. So then I was dating tasha, well, cheating anyway. So I took tasha to uh abdullah's house, okay, and so when we all there's her. And so when we got to abdullah's house, okay, and so when we oh there's Herb, and so when we got to Abdullah's house, he looks up and he knows my wife, he saw it wasn't her. And he says to me you can't do that, champ, you can't do that. You can't ride with a champ, somebody will see you. You can't do that champ, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So he was trying to smarten me up to yeah man, you got to be kayfabe. Herb Simmons, welcome into the room. You finally got in, huh.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I'm telling you, of course I didn't have to get in. I could have just sit here all night and listen to you guys.
Speaker 2:I told him you'd relapse Herb, and that's why he's having problems.
Speaker 3:When you get to be my age, you just can't get these fingers to work right. But I'm telling you what I feel like I've hit the top of the mountain now. I've done Briscoe and Bradshaw and now I'm at the top of the mountain with Mac Davis and Teddy Long.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, much better show than Briscoe and Bradshaw, oh wow wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Oh, I can't wait to tell Bradshaw that.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, Wow, oh, I can't wait to tell Bradshaw that. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, can you imagine that big clothesline coming? Yes, he does.
Speaker 1:I got to tell you that to me would be a fun crossover, teddy and I, with Gerald and JBL. I would love to have that crossover because, man, I can imagine the stories we would get out of that. Let's talk about the story of uh abdul, the butcher in the book. Can you kind of clue us into what all this uh hoopla is about?
Speaker 3:well, yeah, it's, it's a bunch of hoopla and I'm still waiting for the books. You know, uh, they were supposed to be delivered to st louis for fan fest uh, last month and I had uh fans that showed up there that was coming to purchase them and to meet abby because he was there and they could have got an autograph, and so you know that whole ordeal I got drug into it because Abby's a friend of mine and whether what some people think of him or not, I don't care. He's been a friend to me since Bruiser Brody introduced me back in the early 80s and so, you know, I had them on my show, on my Sunday night show on YouTube, and uh interviewed Abby and Ms Malik, uh, when they were getting ready to come in, and they asked me if the uh uh gentleman who had written a book could join in. I said, sure, why not? You know he was going to come to St Louis, he was going to be there with him, and so, uh, he joined in that night on the uh call, just like we're doing here. I mean, we're talking about it. He, uh, I talked with Abby, I talked with Ms Malik. They were bragging about the job that he was doing Um, and he was bragging about how great they were to work with, and he was excited about coming to St Louis and he even said, man, I'd love to talk to you about doing your book. And I said, well, yeah, we'll talk.
Speaker 3:You know, everybody keeps telling me that I need to put pen to paper, and after 52 years. And so I thought, well, I was going to wait and see what kind of job he did with Abby's book and then I would talk to him, and so that that whole process started falling apart there shortly after you know, I talk with Abby more or less, and this Malik they even sent me a copy of the contract. I have that with their signatures on it. You know, recently I offered Mr Rushing that I would pay for a handwriting analysis because he claims that there was some forgery going on. And I said the only thing is, I'd want all of you is not just him, all three of them to take a polygraph test. Now, we know polygraph tests aren't admissible, but it at least lets one's mind come to ease. Well, I got crickets after I did that, you know, of course. Yeah, go ahead, teddy.
Speaker 2:If you can remember who was the guy that was writing the book. I run into one guy that I found out not to be so straight too.
Speaker 3:He was a guy that did Medusa's book. No, this wasn't him. His name's Scott Rushing. I mean, I'll say it because his name's been out there and I don't know anything about him. He, his name's Scott Rushing. I mean, I'll say it because his name's been out there and I don't know anything about him. He may be the best guy that ever walked on a pair of legs, but I've talked to him on our show, on our interview, and then I've talked to him more or less through text messages and I think maybe one or two phone calls we've had.
Speaker 3:You know, he told me how he was basically brought into Fritz von Erich's stable when he was 10, 19 years old and that Fritz showed him the business, which I kind of red flag that, because the Fritz that I met a couple of times in St Louis with Sam Fritz didn't give me the impression back then that he was going to be smartening up a nine or ten year old boy to the business. But again, it's his story. He gets to tell it the way he wants to, and so, you know, one thing led to another. He missed Malik, and Abby asked if I would accept the shipment of the books here. That way, there they didn't have to worry about having them on the plane and hauling them. And he said well, I'm going to ship you 500 books.
Speaker 3:I said oh no, you're not, because you're not going to sell 500 books. He said, you know, bring 40 or 50 of them with you and we'll try to try to get rid of them. Well, you know, books have never arrived, and you know, then I find out. Well, the first book that came out it was only 100 and some pages, and you know, man, I could write 100 pages on Abby myself, and so now I understand it's been corrected a little bit. I think somebody said it's a couple hundred pages now, but there was just a lot of these red flags and I hated to be drug into it, but because of friends with Abby, I just wanted to. I got fans that are still saying when can we get a book?
Speaker 1:I said I don't know if you want to get a book, right now he's not even getting any kind of revenue from this whatsoever, is he?
Speaker 3:Well, that was the other part of the arrangements that I even made. There was in. This was from Mr Rushing himself. There was three hundred and some dollars and Miss Malik had sent me the PayPal, the three transaction transactions, and it totaled like three hundred and thirty five dollars. I told Mr Rushing I would pay you that money also if you won. Also, if you one took a handwriting analysis and a polygraph test, I'll send you that $337, because that's what he claimed was royalties, that they had been fronted, and I've got those three receipts that they sent me and that was what and I've heard him talk about that on a couple other podcasts that he's been on and, um, so you know, 300 some dollars in royalty is not a lot if you've been selling, uh, and he claims he's got a second printing in the book out already. So it tells me, so where is all that money going to? Um, so again, it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's a sad, sad thing, uh, because, like I said, I don't know the gentleman. He may be be the greatest guy out there, but he just threw red flags up. He told me that he knew Lalani Kai. He told me he knew Judy Martin. He was working on her book. He knew Barbara Goodish. I called Barbara. Barbara said well, I just know him through Facebook. I called Lalani, I know him through Facebook. To me, leilani, I know him through Facebook, so to me that's not being good friends. So those were other red flags.
Speaker 1:Well, hopefully that all gets settled and Abby won't get screwed in the end, and that's the main thing. I hate seeing any of the guys getting screwed over like that, and we were saying this before you got in here. Anytime we can bring light to some people you may want to be aware of, I have no issue doing that Because I don't want to see the business get to be where everybody has to be worried.
Speaker 3:Somebody's going to screw them any more than they already do. Well, as you two know, this business has had a bad rap for many years and I don't want to be a part of that. I want to deal with people who are above board, because I've tried to do that in all my career and I think I've done a good job at that. So if I want to take face value, I go back to the. Sam Muchnick made the deal with the gentleman who owned the Chase Park Plaza Hotel. Nick made the deal with the gentleman who owned a Chase Park Plaza hotel. They shook a hand on an airplane and had a honeymoon from 1959 to 1983.
Speaker 1:And that's the kind of relationship I like. Real quick, before we get you out of here, herb. I did show this earlier. I want to show this again. I see that Herb Simmons is going into the St Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame next year. It's well-deserved, herb.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Well, I want to clarify. You know the locker room boys. Last month we had a show going on. I had Tommy Wildfire Rich with us that night and I'm sitting out at the meet-and-greet table with him and my son, jason, comes and gets to me and says Dad, come on, you've got to get in the locker room right away. And I'm thinking there better not be nobody in my locker room fighting because after 52 years.
Speaker 3:I've never had that problem. And he said, no, come on, come on. I said no, I'm out here with Tom, no, come on. So I go back there. And as soon as I opened the door, my wife is standing there on her walker and uh, I'm thinking now this is unusual because she, she knows that it's sacred ground even for her. And uh, so uh, and all the boys are gathered around the doorway and they break this news to me.
Speaker 3:And the story of the st louis wrestling hall of fame was larry matasek and myself and our nick red and our your good friend, uh love nick uh, who was the brainchild of ours, and a couple other gentlemen we brought in to help the first couple of inductions to that Hall of Fame. Larry always wanted that to be a Hall of Fame. That meant something. And so we kind of said the legends, you know, the Sam Muchnicks, the Johnny Valentines, the Luthers, the Pat O'Connors, you name it, the Funks, the Briscoes, that was the people who put the butts in the seats in St Louis. So we've always kept it that way.
Speaker 3:It's always been those who worked wrestling at the Chase, at the Keele Auditorium, at the St Louis Checkeredome. I didn't do that, I haven't been a worker and so I told him. I said you know, I don't want to open up that can of worms because then next time somebody comes up that maybe had a couple of shows says, hey, I want to be in the St Louis hall of fame, then it causes me a headache. So I haven't made up my mind if I'm going to love it.
Speaker 1:I did hear through the grapevine that you didn't have a lot of say-so because, like you mentioned, your wife was in the back and she pretty much said you will do this. Is that true?
Speaker 2:Of course it is. Of course it's, true.
Speaker 3:Well, you know the old saying happy wife happy life and for 50 years we've been together. Years we've been together. But as I was trying to explain my reasoning to the group to the boys I mean out of the blue, it's just like herb shut up and I looked at her girl.
Speaker 2:I will send you to the moon, you know?
Speaker 1:oh, that's great yeah, if she's standing over, she's standing over there cooking, so you better be nice then, because if she's cooking dinner you you want to make sure you can eat what she serves yeah, and she's got a knife in her hands dangerous well, herb. Congratulations uh for the hall of fame, uh entry for next year and also, uh, man, we we appreciate you stopping by and I'm sorry you had so much trouble getting in here no problem, I appreciate it and uh uh, you guys do a fantastic job.
Speaker 3:I try to catch you all the time that I can, and I love it when I hear Teddy talking.
Speaker 1:Yes, herb, you have a great night. Tell the wife we said hello and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 2:And you guys have a happy 4th of July this weekend, herb, and once again, congratulations.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:All right, Teddy, let's get in. We do have a few questions. I want to get in here. I want to go into the chat. Make sure we're not, cause we got some people in here. I want to make sure we get to them as well. Let's see, Pretty classy lady is in here with us. She's stopping by. Zach Minger is in here as well. In here as well. Happy 4th of July. Let's see what is this.
Speaker 2:Thank you, zach, same to you and your family.
Speaker 1:Let's see Pretty classic. Lady Mac, you know old folks need that pain medicine.
Speaker 2:Just kidding Better tell him, tell him again.
Speaker 1:Let's see Also we have Joey77. Yo Mac Holla player Teddy Long.
Speaker 2:Holla player.
Speaker 1:Let's see what else do we have here. Salute to the panel. That's from LA Sports Live.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you guys very much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Joey's saying Teddy has the best dance moves.
Speaker 2:Of course I do. I got them from my grandson.
Speaker 1:Yes, you did. Hey, look here. We do have a few questions that I want to get in here before we close out. Um, first of all, adam from facebook writes teddy was the one-on-one with the undertaker your idea or a writer's idea?
Speaker 2:no, it was my idea. It really wasn't an idea. Uh, the way it happened, uh, I told this story. Uh, we was in madison square garden one night and, uh, vince came out and he was talking to Stephanie, I think she had went out and introduced somebody and he was telling her about he wanted a little bit more emphasis on the name. You know, when she introduced him, you know, give, you know, give me that, and I just overheard it, you know, and I didn't say a word, but I remembered it. And so when I went out that night to introduce the Undertaker, that's the first thing I remember Vince wanted that that high, you know, input. And so I said one-on-one with the undertaker, you know, and I come back by and he looks at me and he just thumbs up and I, you know, I keep right on walking, but I came up, I did that myself.
Speaker 1:He also asking the same question and I don't know if you'll remember, remember this, do you remember the first time you used it, which you know? You remember that, but do you remember who it was in the ring, what the situation was?
Speaker 2:no, I don't I was about to say I don't know.
Speaker 1:Hey, that's just so many things like that. Yeah, man, I don't put so many.
Speaker 2:I don't put so many people in matches with the undertaker. I can't remember all that and taker said it right. I mean takaker was talking to me. He says to me so every time you get pissed off at somebody, you put them with me.
Speaker 1:Let's see Logan Ball. Not Logan Paul, but Logan Ball wants to know have you ever been hit in the ring or a wrestling move applied where they actually hurt you?
Speaker 2:I think one time my big show it threw me out of the ring and he grabbed me and he didn't tell me and he didn't give me time to grab the second rope so I could break my fall, so I just went straight through and hit the ground. Man, oh, that's when Vince got pissed, right? Yeah, that's when Vince got pissed as I walked back. I think I hit my knee or something, but I couldn't even hardly walk and he looked at me and he told me. He said don't you ever let anybody throw you around like that again.
Speaker 1:Do you know if he got on the big show about it? No, I don't know whether he did or not, because I went on back to the trainer's office so they could see what was wrong. Let's see John Roberts III saying hey, teddy, and Mac hey, john, good to have you in here. I'm glad all you guys come in here each week. We certainly appreciate that and if you will share the link around, our subscriber count keeps going up and it's because you do this each and every week. You share it and you let people know that we're out there, and I can't tell you how much we appreciate that, because we don't get paid to come here. We just come here because we enjoy this.
Speaker 1:We like to stay in contact with the fans and Teddy likes to answer your questions, so we have a good time doing this. All right, I like this question. I saw this earlier, teddy Sissy in Mississippi. Teddy, I've always heard stories about ring rats. Can you explain? I don't know where this is going to go? Can you explain why they call them that and do you have any ring rat stories?
Speaker 2:No, I don't have any ring rat stories.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I really don't. I really don't, because back that time you just couldn't be fooling around with the ring rats. Explain what a ring rat is first. The around with the ring rats, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Explain what a ring rat is first.
Speaker 2:Well, the guys named them ring rats, and these were the girls that would come to the airport, pick the guys up. They didn't have to worry about no rental car. They'd drive them to the hotels. Then, after the hotel, they'd take them to dinner, drive them wherever they needed to go, and some of them even after the show, you know, went back to the hotel with them and spent the night with them. So that's really that's what a ring rat was. I'm shocked.
Speaker 1:Have you heard any good ring rat stories? Maybe not you, but anything that you can remember somebody saying man you won't believe I would imagine that was very common. I can just imagine, when you're on the road as much as these guys were. They probably had a girlfriend in every town.
Speaker 2:Oh, of course, man, people would pick you up right at the airport. Man, you didn't have to worry about nothing Back then. You needed that because you wasn't making a whole lot of money so you couldn't afford rental cars and stuff. So those ring rats were a lot of help.
Speaker 1:Kind of like the rock and roll groupies Herb.
Speaker 2:Simmons says to be careful about that question. About the ring rat stories. La Sports Live.
Speaker 1:Teddy, who was the toughest female wrestler you came across and who do you think is the toughest of the bunch now? Low-key, I think Tiffany Stratton is pretty strong and tough.
Speaker 2:Well, the person I really like God rest her soul was Chyna. I thought she was really tough in the ring.
Speaker 1:Who do you think today is that tough version?
Speaker 2:I like Jade Cargill I think she's that version and I don't want to just give it to her, because there's another person that too, that Rhea Ripley. She really impresses me. And don't forget, you know, my baby mama, naya Jack.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, well you can't forget her. You're in trouble. All right, let's see we do have you got a couple more minutes If you want to get in some questions here? We left off a few name associations last week.
Speaker 2:I want to get to them today, since we have a little bit of time uh, and they're interesting because some of these I'm not even sure if you'll remember big daddy v. Now I know you remember him. Any stories about big daddy v? Oh, did I ever tell you the story about?
Speaker 2:I sold him some viagra and that was the first story and that was the first time you know, uh, he had had any viagra. So the next thing, I know he he takes it and I mean there's no girl around you know you why takes it. And I mean there's no girl around, you know why? Would you take my average? There's no girl. So he takes it in the locker room. So, and about 20 minutes after that I come by him and he looks at me and he calls me hey, come here, come here. And he I swear this is a true story. And he says you know what? I look down at my shit and I said who is this? Where did what? I looked down at my shit and I said who is this? Where did this come from? I swear that's a true. He says I look down at me. I'm like who's this belong to? Yeah, that's a true story. Man, oh god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:The pretty classic lady finds that funny. Let's see Currently bands in here. Hey, currently man. Good to see you. Hey, Teddy and Mac, I got a question how was it working with Hornswoggle?
Speaker 2:Oh, I had a good time with him. He was really entertaining and funny. So he was easy to work with because you know I could do stuff with him that would make him laugh and make me be real serious. So me and Hornswoggle, we did a lot of funny, a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 1:Let's see another one of those names Tajiri.
Speaker 2:Any memories about Tajiri? Just a great guy, I mean. He's always had a great attitude, you know, nice to work with and everything, and that's about it. What did Tajiri do? I think he fooled everybody and told them he couldn't drive or something. And then they found out he could drive. He had guys driving him around, then he got busted.
Speaker 1:I mean, I imagine the heat he took for that especially the people he rode with.
Speaker 2:Oh brother.
Speaker 1:I bet he drove every day, after that Every night too. Yeah, man Tatanka.
Speaker 2:Another great guy I've worked with man Tertanka. Yeah, yeah, super nice.
Speaker 1:And the last one on the list we have here is Tori Wilson.
Speaker 2:Tori Wilson yeah, she's very entertaining. That was Billy Kidman's wife and I had a chance to work with them. Yeah, at once. Yeah, she was married to him, but I remember a story about her, one time man and I don't know. You know, billy, I love him to death, man, but you got a wife like Tori Wilson man, you got to be a little nicer and he left her at an arena in Detroit I think we were in Michigan somewhere and she had no ride, man, you know. So somebody gave her a ride, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1:but guys, I can't imagine she had a hard time finding a ride.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:How do you leave Tori Wilson? I don't know how you do that. I would be the first one in the car. I'd make sure she was there. The meltdown Brian is in here. Happy fourth guys. And happy fourth to you too, brian. Good to see you in here. And also, let's see, john Roberts might be our last one in here for the night. What was it like being a ref in one of Sting's matches?
Speaker 2:Just like any other one man. They're not all the same, but I mean, basically you're running the same course, but Sting was always a nice guy. He was a great guy to work with too.
Speaker 1:With Sting. He always came across in everything we see him in. Afterwards he comes across, like you say, a really nice guy. When he first started, though, in WCW, he had a little bit more of a wild side about him, didn't he? And then he calmed down, Is that right?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah Well, he had been working with him in Ultimate Warrior, you know, and they had that wild and crazy gimmick when they were working for Bill Watts down there, so they had to kind of bring him out of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sting for me when I was growing up. When people ask me who was my favorite champion of my time, I like a lot of champions. I like Dusty Rhodes, I like Ric Flair. But now I would go back and watch older shows because that's just who I am. So that's the reason I say I like these guys. But during my 20s I guess it was late teens, in the early 20s maybe Sting was on fire and Sting was the guy man. Everything he did, man. I would just tune into anything Sting did so a lot of times. He gets overlooked for being one of the greatest champions, but during my lifetime he really was one of the greatest champions that I remember. His matches were always exciting. The storylines were always well done. There was a lot of activity in those matches. As far as stories go and Teddy, you know what I'm talking about he just it's different now because they rush things, but back then they could take their time telling stories and it was interesting to watch.
Speaker 2:Well, you had to take your time back then because you had to draw money. Yes, okay, yeah. But you know, with so much going on now, you know what I mean. It ain't a whole lot you have to do.
Speaker 1:No, unfortunate Joey77,. Teddy, did you enjoy your time as general manager?
Speaker 2:I enjoyed my time. Yes, I did, and I mean, in fact, anything that I ever done. I enjoyed my time. I had fun with managing when I was a good guy. I had fun managing when I was a heel and when I went to GM. I had fun with that and that's how you're supposed to do. That's how you last so long, you make your job fun and you get get out. You do it right. Especially, you go walk back through that curtain and Vince McMahon is standing up complimenting you. That tells you something right there and that that's good. That's good too, because that makes you want to really work and do your job. If you're making Vince happy and that's all I ever wanted to do was make him happy I didn't give a shit about none of the rest of them.
Speaker 1:John Roberts III said a 45-minute draw, talking about staying with Ric Flair. Clash of Champions I mean the Clash of Champions shows too, by the way, those were free on TBS. They were great shows to watch. I missed that. I felt like when AEW started that maybe we'd get back to that kind of feel and era of wrestling. And then it kind of went off track after a while, unfortunately, but there was a sure sign that maybe it could come back. Unfortunately, we just won't have that, teddy. We are out of time. We're actually a little bit over and I appreciate everybody sticking along with us, but we got kind of a late start here so we wanted to pop in and leave it a little bit longer, if we could. Teddy, anything coming up for you that we need to talk about?
Speaker 2:No, everything's kind of on the quiet side for me, and I'm glad Me and Rufus are going to have ourselves a good time tomorrow, 4th of July, so I'm thinking about maybe getting him a steak or something Got to get him a treat.
Speaker 1:Damn, your dog's going to eat better than I do he's all I got. I'll tell you one thing that I've been dying for. And here's the 4th of July weekend and you talk about barbecues and everybody having a good time. We went by on the way. Back when Teddy and I were coming back from Jacksonville on a recent trip, we went to a Bucky's and they had this what's it? What do you call that damn beef Barbecue, teddy, it's not shredded barbecue, it's the good piece of meat of barbecue. What am I thinking of, Teddy?
Speaker 2:I don't eat barbecues. I don't know, no Brisket.
Speaker 1:Brisket? Yes, they have brisket sandwiches. Oh my God, I would drive maybe, because I have to meet Teddy next week. Hopefully there's a Bucky's nearby and I'll go find me one of those brisket sandwiches. And if you've never had one and there's a Bucky's around you, I promise you that is the best brisket I have ever had. My neighbor makes a great brisket, but this one All right, teddy, I'm out of here and I got to go get my cats in because you know they start shooting fireworks and everybody gets crazy, and I wanted to mention this too before we go to.
Speaker 2:I mean, I made a comment earlier. You know that I was was cared just about making Vince happy and I didn't give a shit about the rest of them, and I don't mean everybody. Those that I didn't give a shit about was the people that I knew didn't give a shit about me. So that's who I'm talking about. Yep.
Speaker 1:And pretty classy lady. Thank you, brisket. She was trying to help us out. I appreciate that I couldn't think of it. I can taste it in my mouth right now, but I couldn't think of the name. All right, teddy, we've got to pick a name for this week. One of the questions who do you want to choose this week?
Speaker 2:What was the gentleman there asked a question earlier about ref or something. There was a question up there earlier about Vince oh. Who came up with the one-on-one with the Undertaker?
Speaker 1:One-on-one with the Undertaker. One on one with the Undertaker. Yeah, that was Adam from Facebook. So, adam, that is you win tonight. One on one with the Undertaker. Yeah, that's him, adam. Just reach out to me. I think I may already have your information, but send it to me just to be safe, and then we'll get that t-shirt out to you and make sure you take a picture of it and send it to us. We'll put it up on the page, just like anybody else does. All right, I'm out of here. I'm about to sweat the death. This room, for whatever reason, is killing me tonight. So now you don't have all any pills, no, no.
Speaker 1:Well, thank goodness I haven't taken any of those pain pills in the last day and a half now because I've been trying to get myself off of them. Like I say, I don't like them.
Speaker 1:I guess it's all right, I'm out of here. By the way, jbl and Gerald Briscoe may not like me right now, but I still think it would be a fun show for us to have a crossover, because I can just imagine the stories Well, we might ought to talk to them about it. I think we should do that. Y'all do the same thing. Send'm out of here. Have a fantastic 4th of July. My friend, call up players. We'll see you again next week, same time, same place.