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Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis
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Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis
From DoorDash doubts to WWE’s creative reset: Teddy Long and Mac Davis talk food, fans, and fixing storytelling
A Saturday night melody turns into a sharp look at trust, taste, and the stories we buy—whether it’s dinner at the door or a main event on TV. We start with the simple question of who handles your food and end up unpacking who handles the creative that’s supposed to hook us for two hours. From locker room wisdom about fan‑brought dishes to a true tale of food poisoning on the road, the theme is the same: standards matter, and so does accountability.
We dig into WWE’s rumored creative shakeup and spell out what’s actually missing: hot opens with purpose, cliffhangers that carry through the entire show, and long‑term booking that rewards weekly attention. Teddy explains why on‑screen authority only works when it feels real—tone, consequence, and timing—while Mac maps how segment‑by‑segment programming killed momentum. We talk ticket prices, fan value, and the need for coherent storytelling that respects a modern audience.
There’s love for the indie scene, too: promoters who do it right, veterans who put local talent over, and regions like Georgia that are wide open if someone protects finishes and builds a local identity. We wade into women’s hardcore wrestling with respect for consent and a clear line on safety; there’s a difference between controlled danger and reckless spectacle, and fans can feel it. Along the way, we keep it human—pineapple on pizza, a treasured ’64 truck, running gags with the live chat—because community is the heartbeat of wrestling and why we show up every week.
If you want sharper storytelling, real stakes, and a product that earns your time and money, this conversation lays out the playbook. Tap follow, share with a friend who misses cliffhangers, and leave a review with your boldest fix for weekly TV—what would you change first?
Another Thursday night, and I there's a song in my head, and I can't. It's another Saturday night. That's the song that just hit me in my head. You remember that song, Teddy? Another Saturday night, and I ain't got no money or something like that. Something humping and I got just got paid.
SPEAKER_00:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Road Trip After Hours. I'm your co-host, WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long. The person that uh you're listening to over there that just home up. I have no idea who he is, and I have no idea what he's talking about.
SPEAKER_03:There is an old song. You know what I'm talking about because we said Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Another Saturday night. It was by Sam Cook. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:That's that's it. Sam Cook, man, there you go. There you go. I knew it was somebody. Okay, that's it. All right. What you want to talk about, Teddy? You can talk about whatever you want to talk about. I want to bring this up to you. I was out tonight with my wife.
SPEAKER_00:We grabbed an early dinner, and I'm watching the What did you do to get the opportunity to go out with your wife? Boy, you've been really well, you did tell me you've been cutting grass. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was working hard yesterday. I deserved to nine it out. Yeah. Well, I noticed the different delivery people, like the door dashes and people like that that come in, they get people's food and they deliver it. Teddy, what some of the people picking up that food, I don't want them touching my food, much less. I mean, they don't have shoes on their feet, they're walking in there, they smell like hell. And I know this isn't all of them, but I've seen enough of these delivery drivers over time. Would you trust your food with somebody like that?
SPEAKER_00:All right, listen, let me tell you something. I have never had a meal from DoorDash or any of that stuff you call to get food. I never ordered that. I ain't letting nobody bring me nothing in a bag that I ain't seen. And here you're gonna come talking about hey, here's your food. I don't know who you are. Who delivered that? You know what I mean? You know, I I I like I said, I don't do it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I think it's absolutely crazy. And I see what people pay for that too. You I'm thinking, all right, so you spent X amount of dollars on this food, and then you paid an extra sum of money just to have somebody deliver it to you. So the price of that meal is way up there because the delivery charges are not really cheap at all.
SPEAKER_00:No, it's it's no, I like I said, I don't believe in doodash and I mean to each his own, but I don't I don't eat, I wouldn't order nothing. I wouldn't eat off that if it was free.
SPEAKER_03:No, I look, I've always been that way. And I know like in wrestling, I'm sure there were times uh that you would go to a show, especially back in the territory days, where people would probably bring you food or say, here, I got some uh cookies I made or some cake. How much of that would you actually eat? Because I know a lot of guys they were frightened of eating that stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you didn't eat none of it. Uh I remember back in the day, there was this lady, she loved Dusty, God rest his soul. And she every uh taping at Center Stage, she'd always bring Dusty some collard greens or something she done cooked a meal, but she'd always bring him something, you know what I mean? And he'd accept it from her, but nobody never ate that, man. Because you can't you can't do that. And I'll tell you a good story about that. Me and Ron Simmons, Butch Reed, uh, God Rest His Soul. We was in Baltimore, Maryland one night. We was at the bar. So we meet these girls and they're there talking to us and everything. So they start talking to Butch. He gets all excited. Now, me and Ron, we know better, okay? Here comes Butch, he's running over to it. Hey, these girls would, you know, let's go over to the crib, man. They're gonna cook dinner and they're gonna do everything for us. So we look at we look at Butch and we Butch, we're not going to nobody's house and eat. We don't know them. He got hot, cussed us out, cussed me and Ron out. I mean, and left and went on to the girls' house, just where he was the next day.
SPEAKER_03:He's probably still at that house.
SPEAKER_00:Hospital, food poison. That's a true story. Ron Timmer gonna tell you that.
SPEAKER_03:I bet he never did that again after that.
SPEAKER_00:I know well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:We you don't you don't know, but look here. WWE is reportedly said to be undergoing a significant creative shakeup following months of fan backlash and criticism over the company's storytelling direction. Now, sources close to the situation, and this is per body slam, is that the creative department is discussing how to refine the company's approach to long-term booking and week-to-week TV centered around enhancing narrative cohesion and restoring fan engagement to get a more consistent and emotionally rewarding product. Teddy, I I I can't disagree. This is probably overdue because the creative Yes, yes, yes, it is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, you know, summer changes the winter. So I, you know what I mean? It's time for change. You know, you got, you know, people have been doing this for I don't know how long, how long, how long, because they won't give other people the opportunity of giving them a chance. So uh, you know, like I said, I'm I'm I'm with that all the way. I mean, you know, it's it's a new era now, you know what I mean? So it it's you got to give this to some new minds, you know, people that think differently from what they did back in uh 1990s and all that stuff. That's fine, don't get me wrong. But I wish we could go back to the attitude era plus and and update the attitude area into the into the 20th century now.
SPEAKER_03:And I think that's Jenny, I was just gonna say, I thought, and I think a lot of people did that when WWE went to Netflix that we were gonna get that edgier product again, like the Attitude Era, and they just gave us the same thing they've been giving us, and it's not enough. And I think enough fans now because your prices of your tickets keep going up and up to the price where most people can't afford them, and your product is going down. How do you justify paying that much money for a product that basically is stale right now?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I don't know. You know, uh first of all, let's say good evening to Herb Simmons. He's joined us. Uh Herb Dreck, glad to have you on board, player. Uh yeah, Herb, ladies and gentlemen, he's the owner and uh operator of SICW uh Call of Fame Wrestling over in St. Louis and all around the Missouri area there. It has a lot of great independent wrestling shows. And him and along with Nick Ridnard, man, they do a great job. So, Herb, always thank you for joining us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and by the way, uh, any of you young indie guys that want a place to go wrestle, uh, where they wrestle like they used to and present the stories that way, you should contact Herb Simmons and see if you can get a shot at uh maybe getting on his SICW shows because uh he's old school and I love the way they present those. It's still an old school program.
SPEAKER_00:See very cool. And the other thing, getting back to our thing, you know what, you know, it's still just people just still running things on whether they like you or not. You know what I mean? Golly, when is this gonna change? You know, even in this business, you can do your job and I mean and still get stepped on, you know. So it's it's it's unbelievable. So that's what I'm saying, man. It just needs to be a change. You know, it needs to be people that have not been raised up that old way, and only thing they know to do is if they don't want you on TV, they blackball you and call around and you know, don't use him. He, you know, and all that kind of stuff. It's it's it's it's and you know what? I'm glad you brought that up because I was looking at the a documentary the other night, you know, the one that there was uh a thread of a the fear of a black quarterback. I watched that, and that I learned a lot from that. So it's just think professional wrestling, it's in every sport, you know what I mean? Yes, yes. So, and when I see things like that, I feel a lot better, you know, because I'm I'm like, okay, well, it it they weren't picking on me. Is this how this is how it is, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Well, no, no, I wouldn't I wouldn't say that. Not that they weren't picking on you. Uh you were just you weren't the only one being picked on. Let's put it that way.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, okay, we can put it that way. Yeah, but that's but that's what I mean when I feel better about it, because I always thought, well, is it what have I done? I'm doing, you know, what what's the problem? But you know, it's no problem. It's just that's just the way that the way it is.
SPEAKER_03:One of the things I worry about when it comes to the creative and WWE Teddy is that a lot of the guys who handle creative are the higher ups. So if your higher-ups are the ones doing creative, they're not gonna step down and let somebody else get in their shoes. And that's pretty much what you're saying, aren't you? That's uh that these folks have eventually got to realize even though you're not on screen, behind the scenes, you can even become something that's a detriment and not a help anymore.
SPEAKER_00:Right. That's like being that's like being a writer. You know, if a guy comes up with a better storyline than you and he keeps coming up with this every week, you know, now you're gonna look at him as a threat.
SPEAKER_03:You see, do you think that new writer will have a chance without being eaten up by those who are already there?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I you know, it's hard to say because he that writer that's walking in there, he's a mark. Okay, he really doesn't know you know what you and I know. So it's hard to say. So when you're like that, man, you you know you're just on the job training.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I hope the best because they need a new creative direction. There's no doubt about that. And the numbers have been showing that consistently, uh, with both Raw and SmackDown. Uh, so it's something that uh they've got to be concerned about. Pretty classy lady uh stopping in and saying, Hey, good to see you in here, pretty classy lady.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you very much. Joining us every week. Thank you, pretty classy lady. I was talking to uh the Denise, uh, she was asking me about who is Pretty Classy Lady, and uh, so I had to explain. I don't know, never met her, but she's always on the show every week, Denise. So that's it. And she's a mystery to me.
SPEAKER_03:And pretty classy lady is a mystery because she's mentioned a couple of things. It's like, does she live near where I live? I I part of me thinks that too. But I look, we appreciate you being here each and every week. It's always good to have everybody pop in and see us again on a weekly basis because Teddy and I do this, we don't make a nickel from this, not a nickel. We just do this because we enjoy doing this, and it's something that we told each other about.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You speak for yourself. Okay, I would like to be making nickels.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, all right. I'd rather be making dimes and quarters if that's the case. All right, uh, let's see, we got a lot of people in here right now. Let me get some of these uh folks in here. Ellen is in here. Hey, good to see you. I hope uh bet uh buddy is watching as well. Good to see you, buddy.
SPEAKER_00:If you are buddy, uh, we hope buddy got his shirt. We sent him a t-shirt. So uh Ellen, uh let us know.
SPEAKER_03:Forgetting to post that up. She sent me a picture of him wearing the t-shirt. I I've got to get that and show it to you, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'd appreciate it, Mac. Okay, I will please we get you get your memory intact, will you?
SPEAKER_03:Stay off the mountain. My my memory. Uh Zach Minger. Hey, Zach, good to see you in here, brother. International beer and pizza day, Mac and Teddy.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you're talking to the wrong guy, and I say guy because Mac will go for the beer and pizza. I'm not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_03:I'll go for the pizza. Not too much on the beer. Beer blokes me up, but uh, you know, I but you uh well go, but you still drank it.
SPEAKER_00:I see you drink it.
SPEAKER_03:I only if I have to, I'd rather have some.
SPEAKER_00:Only if you have to. What do you mean only if you have to?
SPEAKER_03:If it's still alcoholic around, I never even heard of that.
SPEAKER_00:You like Boogie Man. One night he's telling me, you know, he that he wasn't gonna drink that night. You know, we had went and got some beer, and he said, Well, uh, I don't think I'm gonna drink nothing tonight, but he's reaching over into the bucket, opening it up while he's saying that. But he'll tell you that story. Okay, I said, Boogie, we I said, You're not gonna drink. No, I don't I don't think I'm gonna have one tonight. And he's reaching over and then he's popping the top off saying no.
SPEAKER_03:Oh man, look, you know, that's something that we ought to try to do uh between now and maybe uh Halloween if we get a chance. Uh we've had Boogie on, I think almost every uh year in October, we've had him on the show. Uh, you might want to reach out to him to see if he wants to come live with us on a Thursday night.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, well, I'll uh in fact I talked to him last night. Uh he's been uh pretty busy. You think you talked to him last night? What do you mean you think? Uh my memory, you okay. I'm not ashamed. Okay, I'm not ashamed. If I can't remember, I can't I can I can't hide it no more. Okay, but I did, but I did talk to him last night, so he's uh been he's been out there doing a lot of stuff. So I will get a hold of him and see if he can uh I'm chill here. But you know, me and him, we always cool. He can spare us a little time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and and he is always uh one of those inspirational kind of guys when you talk to him and you hear some of the stories and the things that he does. Go by his webs, uh his website, uh, by his Facebook page.
SPEAKER_00:See how see that? There you go. I was I was dating myself saying what's I'm begging you to just put it down, please put it down.
SPEAKER_03:But his Facebook page has got a lot of inspirational things on it. Stop by and check out Boogeyman because uh you'll love some of that stuff. And hopefully we can get him on the show. That would be cool.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I'll give him a call. We I think we can make that happen.
SPEAKER_03:Look, before I get into a pretty classy lady's comment, uh Zach uh was talking about pizza. Teddy, do you like pizza?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, I haven't had pizza in God knows when, but when I was eating it, I liked the vegetarian. Uh, I also like the pine uh pineapple hamburger.
SPEAKER_03:So that's what I was gonna ask you. So you are a pineapple and pizza guy, huh?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. No, I like that one, the pineapple's on it. That was good.
SPEAKER_03:Ooh, look, I won't be honest, I've only tried it once and it wasn't that great, but it could have been the where I got it. Maybe that was the problem. Yeah, I'm always open to trying it again on somewhere else. But I have had pepperoni pizza with sliced apples on top. Teddy, it sounds horrible. I tried it. Man, that's a hell of a good combination. It actually is really good. I mean, it's got to be a good, you know, like a green apple slice.
SPEAKER_00:But that's the way it is sometimes when you with a name or stuff like that. You think, gee, apples and pizza? Come on. And but then once you try it, you know, it's a whole different thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um, okay. Well, we get uh pretty classy lady back on here. She says, Okay, that answers my question. I won't bring y'all any banana pudding to the meet and greet.
SPEAKER_00:No, because I don't, I don't, I'm pretty classy lady. I don't eat nobody's banana pudding but uh Denise. I'm gonna just be straight up with you, man.
SPEAKER_03:I would say that too, but I haven't had any yet.
SPEAKER_00:So and uh we you may not never have any. We're gonna I tell you what, I tell you what, are you gonna go? I I haven't uh they haven't let me new yet, but uh we may be going to Rascal Cade then Winston Salem, North Carolina next month. You know, they have that every year. So if they finalize that, if you want to go, then uh I'll I'll have Denise uh make make us some banana pudding.
SPEAKER_03:I hear you. That's boy, that sounds good too. Oh, homemade banana pudding, too.
SPEAKER_00:She she looked like she's you know, put uh you know, what's the old saying? You put your foot in it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah. Well, she no, she put some love in it. Yeah, that's the difference nowadays, Teddy. I am convinced when I grew up, my grandmother and my great-grandmother were still alive, and the cooking that they could do back then, I haven't seen it. And and this is not a knock on my wife, but she doesn't even come close. They cook from scratch, everything tasted so much better back then. And I believe it's because they took their time with it nowadays. More people are inclined just to rush a meal, put it together, and eat it. And uh back then they put it together, man, and they took their time. And when you sat down, that was the best thing you ever put in your mouth.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna go to the house.
SPEAKER_00:Let's give a big shout-out to Mission Smith. He's joining us. Uh, you know, mission over there with Mission on Championship Wrestling out of Michigan. Yeah, had a chance to go and do some stuff with him this year, him and his son, man. What two, what two great people, man. So thank you for joining us, Mission, and say hello to your son.
SPEAKER_03:And let's see, we also have Michael Steele popping it again. That's my man, Michael Steele.
SPEAKER_00:Michael, I still have my truck after over it's about 22, 23 years now, but I still have my 64 truck. And Michael used to, he sent me some stuff to clean my truck one time, and golly, that was the best stuff I've ever had. But you know over the years I lost it and I haven't added board. But Michael, he he's the man.
SPEAKER_03:Let me ask you, is that where you got the truck from? Is that is that no?
SPEAKER_00:No, I didn't get it from Michael, but Michael saw it, and uh when the Michael just wanted this, you know, help me clean it up a little bit, so he sent me some stuff to clean with, man. But it was it was unreal.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Michael, I've seen that truck. Uh, the first time I saw it, I I asked Tenny about it immediately. In fact, we showed it on one of our shows just by chance because you had to walk down through your garage to do something while we were live, and we got a chance to see the uh the truck then. But yeah, man, I love that truck. By the way, he is saying about the uh the SmackDown and Raw shows, WWEs. That's it needs to be less predictable, and I agree with that. It needs to be less predictable, and we need more cliffhangers. You you need to draw people from the start of a show to the end of a show, and from one show to the next show, and from one show to a pay-per-view or PLE. It's not difficult.
SPEAKER_00:And the other thing, too, you know, there used to be a time when you cut like they'd open up Raw SmackDown and with a great big hot open. You know, we don't have that no more. No, you know, and uh, and the other thing too, you know, like you'd always watch, and this is something Vince always did at the beginning of that show when he did that hot open and he and they showed that. Well, he would always think and say, Well, hey, somebody might have joined us a little bit late. So maybe 20 minutes later, you'll hear to uh the announcers, Michael Cole near him and said, Well, in case you did weren't with us when we first joined, in case you didn't wasn't able to join us when Raw started off the night, here's what happened.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but you know, but Teddy, here's the thing that they did different back then is that when they started a show, they didn't start and end a segment all in one. He would start the show, and that opening segment would probably play out through the entire show and in an accrescendo at the end of the show, so you get your biggest and loudest pop, and you carry people to the end of the program. They don't do that anymore. Now it's just programming for the segment, and that's to me what has killed the professional wrestling that we knew is that when you're booking just for that segment, there's no reason to continue to watch at the end of the segment.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the thing is now, man, I in my opinion, I think it's just too much wrestling.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I thought I think that too. From one company now, from one company, uh I think one company needs to be careful because they're gonna water down their own product and they're gonna make other people look a lot stronger. I still contend that AEW and TNA are in a great position right now with everything that's happening with WWE. The only thing is TNA has got to be careful about uh their you know their working relationship with WWE because if you're TKO and WWE, who are you looking out for? WWE or are you looking out for TNE? You know that that that'd be the only thing I'd say to be careful about.
SPEAKER_00:That's self-explanatory.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and uh you were just talking about uh mission, and here it is. Uh Attitude Era was the best. That and the ruthless aggression area really were the best.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you can make it happen now. You know, it's all you gotta do is go back. You know, it says uh repackage. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know, and he also says that Teddy Long, general manager with attitude era story vibe. Yeah, we need more of that too. Uh, because Teddy, I know you watch the product from time to time and you see some of these general managers. I look at Nick Aldous, who is a phenomenal wrestler, he's a great talent, but he's he just does these same kind of little skits in the back where he throws a match together and there's not much to him. There's you don't really feel like there's a lot of authority when he hits the screen like you did.
SPEAKER_00:They don't give him any power. And Vince gave me power. Yeah, and the reason Vince gave me power is because he knew that my deliverance, when I got ready to deliver something, it was good, it would it would mean something and it would be believable. So that's what I'm saying. Right now, I seen um, and I understand what you're saying. I seen something with uh uh not Nick all this uh Adam uh Pierce, and uh you know he was talking to the guy and he was trying to be mad, but he wasn't. You know what I mean? You're the you're the GM, you're the you're the boss, and you would, if you could remember, I'd I'd get into it with some guys, and one of them would probably take their finger and you know hit me right in my chest. I'd act right to that. I'd get, hey, don't put your finger on me. Yep, and I'd press my suit off or something like don't put that on. You know what I mean? That's the way it needs to be. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right, guys, we gotta step away real quick, real quick, and then we'll come back because we gotta open up the mailbag here.
SPEAKER_02:The International Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame Awards Ceremony, live from Albany, New York. We welcome the class of twenty twenty-five.
SPEAKER_03:And that is one of the most uh interesting tunes that Teddy always requests we have on the show every week because he loves us so much.
SPEAKER_00:And I see you fulfill that request every week.
SPEAKER_03:Every single week. All right, let's see. We got some more uh folks in here. By the way, if you want to be a part of the show, and there's a lot of things in here right now, uh, all you have to do is just drop it in the comment section. We'll throw it up on the screen. There's no super chats, anything else, and uh anything goes. Uh we'll answer anything that you have up on the screen to the best of our ability. Teddy usually uh, even if he doesn't want to answer it, we'll go out of his way to try to give you something at least. Uh 40 ounce C dub. Hey, brother, thinking differently is what the dance uh is what the dance we all love needs, and getting priced out should also give these other promotions a chance to grab the fallen. Just have to be the thing that's missing. Yeah, I you know, and he works in the independence quite a bit. You see him in a lot of places and in Teddy. I I do think that it there is plenty of opportunity even for the independence right now, because for a lot of fans who can't afford those WWE tickets, it's independence, is where you're I say this, I say this all the time.
SPEAKER_00:Georgia, this right now here in Georgia, this territory is wide open. If they brought somebody got started here and then did it right, every time somebody starts something here, they won't they won't do the right thing. Soon as they get to making a little money and things go to getting good, then they go to screw it up. They go to doing something that they know they shouldn't be doing. Or they want to get involved in the show when they know they got no business involved in the show. Okay, so like I said, if somebody came in Georgia and did it right, did the right thing, this could be, I mean, a very good territory for you. Because, like you said, with the price of wrestling and stuff going up, then just to have another good show, people would pay to watch, you know, and then they're local, they're at home, ain't a whole lot of traveling and all that. I think it would be absolutely great.
SPEAKER_03:And and the one thing that a lot of independents make the mistake of, too, is that uh you got to remember that when you bring in some of these stars to your shows, the stars don't necessarily need to be the ones that are going over, they need to be putting over talent. You need to be building your champion so that fans come back even when that star is no longer there.
SPEAKER_00:And that's why I have a lot I have the utmost respect for Billy Gunn. He was a guy that was like that. I remember when we worked out in Florida one time, uh with uh indie promotion there, and I was kind of here running that. And I went to Bill and talked to him, and Billy on the studio said, Oh, yeah, no, I'm leaving. I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm here to make the guy, you know, to make the guy look good. So that's what I'm saying. And plus, it ain't TV. No, these guys will come in like they're on TV and don't want to put nobody over, you know what I mean? But they want to get their money, you know. So you got to understand it's a worth, gentlemen.
unknown:Yep, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right, uh Mission saying, uh, we need wrestling storylines like Kane and Undertaker. We need something that carries you through years of, and it is. We need storylines that are longer than just 15 minutes, and and that's something that uh hopefully they're gonna work on. Uh Bruce uh popping in saying, Hey, Teddy and Mac, couldn't see you in here, Bruce. And uh let's see, pretty classy lady saying, Hey Denise, I'm just a fan.
SPEAKER_00:Uh oh. Well, thank you, thank you, classy lady. You got me out of the doghouse, all right? Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:All right, let's see what else we got. Scott Lance uh popping in. I used to work with Scott Lance in the independence. I'm I'm not sure if he's still in the house. I remember him. Yeah, Scott Scott was a great uh manager and uh uh official. Um, did WWE provide the amazing suits you wore on screen, or were you always just that dapper? He's talking to me, of course. Okay, well, answer no, I'm just kidding. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:Uh no, WWE didn't have nothing to do with that. That was all my creation. My my like I said, I tell people all the time, I wasn't a character, I was Teddy Long. The way that you see me on TV, that was the way I was at home and everywhere. Like I said, I'm like that. And if you meet me right now, it's player this, player that. So uh, no, putting the suits on, well, you know, well, when I was a young man back in the streets a little bit, you know, I was kind of dapper like that. So I just uh kind of went back to my old ways.
SPEAKER_03:Dressing up and looking nice. I would imagine is that when Vince came up and he's like, Hey, I want you to be a general manager, did he say wear a suit, or did were you already wearing a suit at that point in the back, anyhow?
SPEAKER_00:No, I done all the dressing came from me. He didn't tell me to put on nothing or nothing. I just came up with the suit and my tie and all that. That because I knew that's how you're supposed to look. Yep, yeah. Okay, I understood that my my own self.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he trusted you enough to know he'll come up with what he needs. I don't need to tell him.
SPEAKER_00:And then, like I said, they didn't never even tell me that I was gonna be a general manager until five minutes before we went on the air. That's when they let me knew. I didn't even know it.
SPEAKER_03:Good thing you weren't wearing gin pants and sneakers.
SPEAKER_00:No, well, I was, you know, I had the suit on because you know I'd been managing guys too, you know what I mean. So yeah, but they like I said, they didn't tell me nothing until five minutes before it happened.
SPEAKER_03:Let's see, Thomas McClure popping. Hey Thomas, good to see you in here. Uh, what's up, Mr. Mac and Mr. Teddy? It's been a while. How have you guys been?
SPEAKER_00:Hey man, we've been great, man. Good to hear from you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, absolutely. Uh 40 ounce C dub. How drunk were you?
SPEAKER_00:Uh who's he talking to?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. Maybe you're the one drinking 40 ounce. Uh let's see. Yeah, right. So, how drunk were you? 40 ounce club also saying, bring that pudding my way, classy lady. Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_00:Which pudding is he talking about?
SPEAKER_03:Uh what now?
SPEAKER_00:Are you with us today?
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, no, no. I just uh I was just trying to bite my tongue, but I had another comment. I was like, no, I better not say that. Pretty classy lady. What do you both of the what do both of y'all think of women having these hardcore matches? I don't like seeing women bleeding, and it's even worse when they get hurt. Teddy, what are your thoughts on the hardcore matches in women?
SPEAKER_00:Well, this is professional wrestling, and uh, I think when women decide that they want to do this, they also decide that they're gonna have to go with whatever comes with this. Um, I don't like to see women bleed either because that's something that we just don't normally see, but it's it's brand new and it's just part of our business. So uh, you know, and I think I got a lot of respect for the women that do it because if they want to put themselves through these hardcore matches, and those things are rough, you know, a lot of that you can't work it, you know. So uh yeah, so those girls to get beat up and take a lot all that pain and punishment like that, you know, I have the utmost respect for you.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I want to get to see Trish again this coming weekend for the uh Hall of Fame and open in New York. And I remember talking to her, we were on our show back when we had our one-year anniversary, and I had said something to her that, you know, about you know how hard she went in that match because I wanted to see, I don't know why, but in that particular match between Trish Stratus and Becky Lynch inside the steel cage, as hard as Trish went in that match to prove a point that women can do a cage match as well, I wanted to. See a little bit of blood. I really did. And they didn't do it. And I think maybe because they were afraid of how people would, you know, see you know a woman bleeding. But I think that it could have been the extra little cherry on top that may have added to that match to me.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, that that you know, like I said, it's it's it's gotta be what it's gonna be. So uh, you know, if you're gonna do hardcore, then you gotta have the blood.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, I agree. Because I think the fans expect it really. Uh Bruce Couch, Teddy and Mac, what is your favorite vegetable to eat? And how do you like that particular vegetable cooked? Steamed, fried saute, Teddy?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, I don't know. I don't really have no favorite vegetable.
SPEAKER_03:Um, I tell you what, I think you like, and I think it's the same thing I do because I've seen us both eat it. I I do like green peppers and onions that are put in the just kind of you know flipped in the pan, stir-fry a little bit. And yeah, I do love that maybe a little bit of steak or chicken. That's really good to me.
SPEAKER_00:I like squash. You know, yeah, I had some of that at Whole Foods. I well, that's why I get my food. I can't cook, so so I go to Whole Foods every day and I get food for me and Ruby.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, no, no. You go to Denise's, that's what you do.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I well, I well, then when I go to do with Denise, I don't have to worry about no cooking, man. That's all great. And then I oh man, it's just it's it's it's it's great, I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_03:Pretty classy lady. Uh it's okay if someone to do that style, but all women shouldn't be expected to.
SPEAKER_00:Well, they're not let me say this, they're not forcing them to do that. You know what I mean? That's on they they make that decision on themselves. I'm pretty sure if there was a girl there that said, Hey, I don't want to do that, I'm not gonna do that, then they wouldn't force her to do that. So when they go out there and do those hardcore matches, they've made they've made up in their mind and they made the decision to say yes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think even in the case I was just talking about Trish Stratish and Becky Lynch, I think Trish Stratus was the one that pushed for that match because she wanted to make a point uh about women and you know in that type of match uh inside WWE. So yeah, I think they have a full choice uh when it comes to the women if they want to or not. And that goes for anybody, really. Anyone can say, Hell no, I'm not doing that. You know, if they put me on top of the scaffold 30 feet above the ring, I'm not falling from that. I don't care what you pay me. You know, it might be catching me.
SPEAKER_00:You know who I'd like to see hardcore?
SPEAKER_03:Who's that?
SPEAKER_00:Is uh Ronda Rousey and Naya Jack.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, ooh, but yeah, but that'd be that'd be real.
SPEAKER_00:That that why you think I say it, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_03:Uh let's see. All right, uh, we're running out of time. 40 ounce seat. Um uh, yep, them stoned episodes where he was beating people up all night long. Yeah, stone cold. Yeah, and they would stone cold to come out at the beginning of a raw or you know, whatever show he was on, and it wasn't the only time you saw him. He was there in the opening, he was there in the middle, he was again there just before the end, and then at the end. It was just the way that you kept people watching the show. And nowadays, a lot of people don't even watch the full two, three hours, whatever the show may be. Most people now are watching just little clips here and there of what happened the night before. So, even keeping that live audience, which is what their problem is right now, is is very difficult because things have changed so much when it comes to how we consume uh what we get. You know, at one time TV, that's all we had. We didn't have the internet, so it was a lot easier to make people watch the entire two hours. Nowadays, there's a lot of competition out there, yeah. Uh, we also have uh uh Scott uh throw it so why manager managers are not used anymore. As a manager myself, I know they never get involved in the action, but the only mouthpiece now is Paul Heyman. Should they bring him back?
SPEAKER_00:No comment.
SPEAKER_03:I I think that we need to have more managers. I I would love to see that. Yeah, yeah, we need to.
SPEAKER_00:We need to, but then when they're when they're what uh I'm gonna leave it alone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want you to get in trouble, brother. Um, Mission Smith. Uh let's say I seen your work recalling the show in Michigan. Teddy, you are the best.
SPEAKER_00:All right, no problem. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_03:And let's see, uh, we also got uh Jesse popping in saying, Hey Jesse, it's good to see you in here, my friend. Wow, just put on a great cage match with Miami Sweet Heat versus Penelope Pink and Hulk Holly Swag. I'm sorry, bro. I'm trying to read this quick. What is this? They blood really sold the heat. Oh okay, they had a blood match between the two, okay. Uh between the two women, and we will now have Miami Sweet Heat at the next event in November. Shameless plug. That's all right, man. Get your shows over. Independence event. Don't be afraid to do that. You want to come here and put your show over? Feel free to do so. Exactly. Uh, also, uh, mission saying, favorite hardcore match that you have ever seen, Teddy.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man, probably back in the day with ECW and those were those were pretty, they were pretty rough, man. With those, especially with uh the Bob wire and all that stuff. Man, they they they were pretty hardcore. I think ECW was they they they didn't get no no no no better than that.
SPEAKER_03:No, now I've seen some of these death matches that they have now, also that you can find online. Some of that stuff, I the light cues and stuff. Man, I don't understand that. I know there is an audience for that, but I it there's just so much that can go wrong in a match like that.
SPEAKER_00:It's very hard to why would you want to do that to yourself anyway?
SPEAKER_03:I I really don't know.
SPEAKER_00:You're not mentally stable if you want to set yourself on fire and uh uh uh what's this electric stuff they put on your eye, all that stuff that they're doing. Jesus.
SPEAKER_03:Now I've been through a flaming table, but there were a lot of precautions for that uh that I don't see taking place anymore. Uh, you know, I the guy I was working with was actually a firefighter, uh, you know, just the kind of uncover everything else. But yeah, we were completely safe in that. Uh, but nowadays, the things they do, there is no safety there. You can't take a light tube and you know and crack it over somebody's head and not think that that that you know the glass is not going to cut them wide open, you know, especially around the neck. I think was it David Arquette? I think he was involved in a match a few years ago, and he he was coming back, and somehow he started having just blood gushing out of his neck and he had to go to the hospital. No, no, no, that's not that's that's not good for that. Uh, Michael popping in saying uh hello and uh asking us how we're doing. Doing great, man. I'm glad to see you in here. And guys, I hate to cut us loose, but we're about uh 40 minutes into the show right now. They're gonna cut us off if I don't. So we gotta get out of here. Teddy, uh, anything uh if you can remember anybody uh about the questions that we had tonight, anybody you want to throw the shirt to?
SPEAKER_00:Uh let's send 40 ounce uh shirt, man. 40 ounce C dub. All right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I will see we'll send that nut something here. He he's crazy as hell. Hey guys, we appreciate this. Uh, but you know, pretty soon uh this is gonna be where you'll find Teddy and I all the time. Uh, because our show with Sports Keto uh is coming to an end. They're closing that particular part of the uh site down. Uh so it will be coming to an end. You'll find Teddy and I over here with all of our special stuff. We'll probably have Bill After pop in once in a while because uh No, we will not. No, okay, no, we won't.
SPEAKER_00:I'm just kidding, man. We'd love to have Bill.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, man. And we do this every Thursday nights live, seven o'clock. It unlike a lot of the other shows you go to where they ask you for money to ask the questions, we don't do that. So just come and enjoy yourself, be a part of the program. Uh, anything goes anytime when we're here. Seven o'clock Thursday nights, it's road trip after hours. I'm your host, Mack Davis, and that, of course, is WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long. Holoplayers.
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